Your Happy Hour - The Stack Series ~ "Father of Nations" ft. Sanjeev Chitre

Episode Date: March 22, 2026

Welcome to The Stack Series! ✨ The Stack Series features new books and emerging authors sharing their stories, inspirations, and journeys with us. In this special episode, we celebrate the launch of a new book into the world! “Father of Nations” written by Sanjeev Chitre - seasoned entrepreneur who has lived and worked across three continents and whose journey from the streets of Mumbai to the global stage provides a rich backdrop for the insights shared in his book, making him a credible voice on issues of wealth, growth, and peace.> What if the most powerful people used their influence to unite us instead? Check out Sanjeev’s book here - A gripping narrative that not only critiques social divides but offers a path to bridge them and reminds us of the importance of collaborative leadership and that our differences can be a source of strength, not division. Let's rethink our roles in shaping a more equitable world - in which we can live our Feels Life! 🎧 Stay tuned for stories that inspire, uplift, and spark your abundant life!The Stack Series is produced by swartkat.co - captured via riverside.fm & shared via rss.com.

we are in the fields sessions. It's another chance to get together and chat about more fealzy things, which I'm really, really privileged today to share this space, this series with a new author. So a very big welcome to the field space, to the fields podcast. We run the series called the Stack series, which is all about books and new authors. And today I have a very special author with me who's recently published a book and we get to chat about that today which is so wonderful and so I want to say a big welcome to you Sanjeev Chitre to the field space to the podcast and yeah to just being able to share in this journey today well thank you Nicole and the field space infrastructure to invite me and to share what you know was the journey

of the Father of Nations and your background preparation has been impeccable in enabling me to think through, you know, what are some of the important things that in my journey in writing this book I could share with you. So thank you for that opportunity. It's only a pleasure and thank you for being here. And I want to give a shout out to Parker publishers for putting us in touch. Thanks today also. Yes, we should be. Yes, we both too. for that introduction. And I actually want to start off with something that they sent me, you know, when they were telling me about your book.

And I thought it was really apt to read that. So they said, you know, what happens when a entrepreneur from the streets of Mumbai writes a political thriller that any award-winning journalist Ari Malbo calls unsettling in the best possible way, you get Father of Nations, a book that doesn't just critique the gap between the haves and the have-nots, it hands you a blueprint to close it. And so you, Sanjee, you've spent decades in business and technology across three different continents, if I have it correct,

and you were kind of asking this question, you know, that everyone's thinking probably but afraid to ask, what if the most powerful person in the world actually use that power to unification, us all and to create good in the world. And so your book is part manifesto, but part kind of page turner, as they call it. And so it's really like a doctrine of wealth and peace and growth. And I really love that. I resonate so much with me and a lot of things that I think about, but we'll get into that. I'm very excited. So I'd love to start there with where your journey

started and how you lived in Mumbai, you grew up there, and there's a really humble beginnings up to where you were building a business. And how did that shape you as a person to bring you to this point in writing this book? So I think, Nicole, thank you again for the clarity with which you asked the questions. the journey in writing the book was the pain and the understandings that I felt, you know, in the process of creating the wealth that I was so very fortunate to create and to share. And so in my vocabulary now, and I'll go back to the school days, it's very difficult to accept the word, you know, charity.

It really is a very challenging word. It should not exist in the dictionary of the Webster's dictionary or for any dictionary. Because Nicole charity creates a giver and a taker. It has that embedded purpose in it. I am the giver, you are the taker or you are the giver, I'm the taker. And creates immediately in that transaction or have and the have-not relationship. But I love my dog. I give him food and it gives me licks.

So we share the things in the world. So each person in this world, animal, has something to share. So I rather replace that whole process. of charity with the word of sharing because it creates an equality of status and gives both the opportunities to exist in the give-give-give space which is a sustainable space of the universe rather than a give-take space which is not a sustainable space of the universe right so in in growing up as a child in the suburbs of Mumbai in a town called Thani

where I went to school in this Christian school called the St. John's High School therefore it was an English medium school. And so I was exposed to a variety of diverse people

not just Christians but a different ethnicity in India. And so I could see as a growing student there was no difference in my mind between the haves and the have-nuts because we all wore a school uniform. Some of them were crispier than the others.

Some of them had more of them than the others. But essentially, it was a uniform. And the uniform created this mindset of equality when you play with this thing soon. So growing up itself, you know, I never believed in this concept. conceptualization of the haves or the have-nots, right? We just thought everybody has a different task, and we did their lives together. And of course, you could see the wealth on the streets, and my father was a hard-working man, so eventually he became a businessman in his life.

So I saw that transition of our own from a, I don't want to call the have-nots, because I was privileged to be whatever I think. God to becoming this person in which or to living in the family in which there was more to give. So that transition sort of as embedded in my growth, including when I started my company. Because even in entrepreneurship, you know, you have the you can, if you don't plan well, you can create the haves and the have-nots, the employees become the have-nots, and the management and the shareholders become the halves, right? So, Yuan has to design the, to minimize that inequality,

and that responsibility goes to the founder and the CEO, and that's what I did in my first company, that my first company that was the fastest growing company in the semiconductor space for five years in a row, won all kinds of award giving me the entrepreneur of the year awards all that kind the single most thing of achievement that i felt was biggest in my case rooted in my education system was that 25% of the company was owned by the employees from janitors to everybody and to share that wealth when the company became billion dollar plus company in the first four years was the biggest gift I had from the universe and the opportunity to do that.

But you have to design these things. And so you don't just get up one day and say, you know, that's what you want to do. It becomes, and that's when you get up one day and decide that's when. the charity becomes the stuff because I gave my janitor the same opportunity to participate and building his company as I had as the founder and the chief executive of the company, right? So he just, he just did different things, that's all, you know. And so, so I think that rule is what really helped me think through this process. and hurt myself in the journey internally to see the difference between the haves and the have-nots.

And it keeps on widening because the haves can afford to keep more of what they have. And the have-nots are just basically surviving in the process. So that's that sort of the state. How could one change that and how could one think through the process of it? Definitely entrepreneurship, Nicole, is the one of the significant most pathways because every other profession requires education, requires training, requires social strata, requires backup. But entrepreneurship is the only pathway to creating wealth

that is agnostic to race, religion, sex, nationality, boundaries, anybody in the world can be. become an entrepreneur. And so if we want to create the equality between the haves and the have-nots on a global footprint of possibilities, entrepreneurship becomes one of the major tools of that element of making that happen. And entrepreneurship being omnipresent. I'm not talking about an entrepreneur subject.

It's one of the tools. You need tools to create and you just can't talk about it. So the doctrine of growth, wealth, and peace, you know, uses these experiences of realistic existences. These are real experiments that have been done in the journey. But small people or small, you know, people in their capacity can only execute what their capacity is. And so how would one create this global transformation of the haves and the hafnots and we can go through the details is to see a person who has the power in the world to create that transformation and be aware of the fact and committed to being equality. And so a father of a family always sees his or his children as.

Similarly, you know, whether it is a woman or a girl or a boy, both have to be done as equality basis. There is no haves or have-nots, typically in the mind of the father of the family. So a father of a nation creates a responsibility of creating that equality of existence in that nation. And so, but, you know, now we have, as you can see, because of that, the disparity and the wars and the wars that come between nations. So a father of nation would be, do not have the power to create this global wealth and prosperity in any doctrine that you could create because it would be still restricted to it to that region. So in order to create a global citizenship of equality or of abundance, if not equality, which is the same in a way, we would have to have a person who is powerful across the world. And that is what led me to putting the story around and the drama and the steps. because without the power

this would be an unexecutable story but with the power and the designation and the influence and who could be better positioned to do that than the president of the most powerful country in the world whether you like it or not

that today is that reality so using his vision through his eyes to drive this as the family that he is responsible for, whether it is his closest family at home, whether it is neighbor's family as domestic, or whether it is his whole family as a nation.

So that's why I chose the title of the father of nations. And that has been my evolution from the school days, through the entrepreneurship, through the blessings of the universe, to write this book. It's quite a journey to get to this point. And I can imagine writing that has been such a rewarding feeling. As books often are, I feel like a lot of authors, you know, you write because you have so much within you that you want to channel. And first I want to say that I feel like what you write about and what you talk about resonates so much for me because I really believe in equal energy exchange in the world, you know.

And I think a lot of the systems in our world have become very controlled. and very warped in so many ways that it doesn't allow for this equal fair exchange where everyone really owns their value. And this is the part where entrepreneurship and I know you also wrote another book about entrepreneurship, which has been really successful. And I feel it's the same thing, you know, and my mom said to me recently, do you think you are really an entrepreneur? And I always call myself an entrepreneur as an artist entrepreneur. And I said to her, but I think everyone is entrepreneur. I can't I can't really say that there's no place to not be one because we all self-starting in our own right. We all have to own our value. We all have to do our accounting.

We all have to do our marketing of our brand as a person and look after ourselves. And so I agree with you in that. And I think that I find it really interesting that you were able to get to this point of writing the book as a fiction. But then kind of very a real take on, yeah, yes, what is leadership? What is being able to be a servant of the people in some way too as a president, you know, of one country, but maybe of lots of nations? And we're living in a really interesting time to have this conversation. I think that, you know, we're all kind of being pushed to a place where we're having to embrace each other and community. So I'm curious about how you got to writing the book. Was it kind of just mulling in your mind or was there a journey?

that kind of prompted you to write it? Yeah, so I think I shared with you my despiceness for the words charity, right? You know, so I don't like that word, I don't use that word, nobody should use that word because like we said, it creates a giver and a taker, you know, institute. So in order for people to prosper, which, you know, give her and a taker is the haves and the have-nots, right?

I mean, that's the replacement words for that category of stuff. So if everyone has the ability and the possibility of fulfilling on his own dreams or her own dreams or her passion, then what are the missing pieces are the tools that enable that to happen? And when those tools are not made available or are not known sometimes, you go into this substitute of life which is at kind creates the whole dilemma

of going to killing somebody and going to heaven and getting this 90 virgins and things like that. The base cause root of that is not the religious, but it's their mind. Doesn't have the ability to, or the opportunity to create for themselves a world

that they really would like to live in. So you now have the have-nots that are manipulated with whatever religions and stuff like that. To be able to do and being through this journey, it's just very tiring to see this, read this over and over again, or to listen to the staff now. And you can do two things.

You can tune the life out or you can decide to do something about it, right? So I wrote the book on entrepreneurship because I wanted to enable the need of success that stuck at 3% of success over the first four or five years of business, which creates wealth, you know. but to more because if that is the way of process of wealth creation, we should enable that process. And so I focused on the tools again there to help that stuck motor being increasing because if we just increased by 1, 2% more, which should be more, you know, then you would create more wealth and people cannot give what they don't have. You know, see, you can only give what you have,

unless like the United States government, which they don't have, but they put it on debt, but not all of the people can bother the debt kind of existence, right? So my thought process in sort of, you know, was, hey, stop complaining like you did in the entrepreneurship space. If it is bothering you, then write something called the doctrine, of growth and peace. So this book began as a meet to create a manifesto of elements that one could intelligently share, whether it is on a conversation or a blog or whatever that was. I didn't know the instrument in which, but putting the thoughts together.

So in order to understand the doctrine of growth and peace, I went back and I read again, few times the doctrine of war and peace because what created the conflict of the war and peace was the necessary gap to create between growth and peace and wealth and peace you know and so once i was able to look at the disparity that created war and peace then my entrepreneurial background helped me to start looking at the tools that actually were a part of my journey in enabling me to become, you know, entrepreneur, through the entrepreneurship, create wealth. And of course, in the journey of my entrepreneurship, Nicole, they were hugely successful ventures and they were challenging ones which left a lot of arrows on my back, you know,

but that is a part of the learning. As they say, you learn a lot more from the challenges of managing the difficulties of it. And so it allowed me a little more insight through that process in beginning to handle this doctrine of growth and peace. And as I began to think of this, you know, writing this book, you know, through using some basis of entrepreneurship, had read the doctrine of war and peace.

I was fortunate to be able to tap on the soldier on my shoulder at one of these events that I was sitting for breakfast and some lady got up. I was just in my business suit and she said, sir, can I sit down? Are you a writer? And out of nowhere did this person come about and I said, no, I am not yet a writer,

but I'm thinking. So she said, you know, I am a publisher in UK and I like to listen to this, you know, the universe sends these things. And the reason I tell you these stories is because we as humans and the signals come from the universe. And you can consider universe as paid, you can consider universe as God,

you can consider universe as probabilities, whatever suits the origination of that element you can adapt to, right? So as I was sitting out there, I shared with her. She said, that's a great topic. You know, if you finish the book, please call me. I'd be happy to guide you and she gave me the card. And so, you know, I mean, of course, you're having read the book, alchemy and things like that, you are looking for the signs of posts that come to your life.

So then from there I go to my room and just before getting ready I turn the TV on and comes the movie the American president right in its trailer form. Now I'm thinking, you know, okay, I loved the, I'd seen it

so I loved it on the, you know, just coming to the through the advertisement side. So I go to work from there, from Montreal, I go to Detroit for my second step. I turn the TV on. It's the American press.

Now, you know, the channels in Canada have no control over channels in Detroit. And now I'm beginning to think what's the purpose here, right? Because I had this gone on all of this happening within a week period of time. I go from Detroit, go to Phoenix, I turn the television on the American president. That's when I knew that somewhere the other, my doctrine of wealth and peace, and peace that I was thinking to put together has to be connected with the president, the American president, the drama, the thing that goes along. But more importantly, enough, the power of the president. Because like Michael Douglas says, he is working to be the president, but I am the president, you know. And in that, you need that kind of power to be able to deliver and implement and the passion of creating this stuff.

And since the father of the nations who considers the global citizenship as a part of his responsibility, you know, was that then began the background of the father of nations and how it evolved. Wow. I've got goosebumps as you were talking because I really believe in, well, resonance, synchronicity. I don't think there's anything like coincidence. And I do believe that we are, our external reality is a direct reflection of our internal reality. So everything that you're thinking and feeling and that's sitting in this energy blob, the universe just mirrors that back to you, you know. And so I think that's so beautiful that you had that interaction and that you,

more so that you actually took action on that and followed the nudges of your heart, you know. So I'm really happy that we can have this conversation and that you're looking back, it's amazing journey for you. You know, I think it's, I want to kind of stop with the word power for a second because it's something that's such an interesting word to me. And I feel like power means the kind of embodiment of the strength within yourself, the resilience within yourself, but also really being able to. to take accountability for who you are in the world and your purpose.

And it's something that I think humans struggle with a lot. But what does that like kind of look like for you? When you wrote the book, how did that feel to think about this power as a man holding as a leader, you know, as a servant of the people? So, Nicole, when I wrote the book, the political reality was, or when I began to think of writing, the political reality was much more different. But the unpeacefulness in the world, whether it was Iran or replaced by Iraq,

those who were still continuing, you know, existed in different forms. Just the nations had changed, but the disagreements and the, you know, the conflicts were still, you know, present. So because... I wanted this to be not a story of somebody privileged. I wanted this to be a story of somebody who came from nothingness

to create this powerful transition. And one of the realities that I could see in that world was President Obama who came from South African roots. and who did a lot to believe, you know, who were much more open and considerate about the borders and all of that kind of stuff. So I felt that if I incorporated in his kind of personality, the power of the power of the father of nations, right?

Then there would be more, you know, sort of meaningful for the population outside the world to think if this is possible it is not only happening because you have a American president it is happening because there is a human that became an American president

and he has the ability to cause the changes and to bring the what of interject romanticness in it was to create a story that takes away from the politics of the reality to implement them into an engaging watchfulness. Because if and when

if ever becomes a movie and my thought process in my mind was that if people came out and said, God, if this is only true, the world would be a different place. And that hope and that pathway and that has come out to be so at the end of the book by, you know, whether it is well remarks by Anderson Cooper or all the other MSNBC people, it is a sort of a transformational thought process. It isn't transformational. There is nothing about the book that is those are practical elements brought together in,

in order to cause a change and address a challenge that exists in the society, whether it is locally, domestically or internationally. And that is where I created the ties, which is the customer service enhancements, which is applicable, of course, across the world, but it can start at a place. And then the whole rebuilding of,

nation from the tools because if it was destroyed then there were lots of nations who could create self-diff sufficiencies in the format of it and then lastly to give the extra assets of one the country that are the haves to share it with the have-nots to create an engaging business and opportunities for other countries of the world and create not a give-away model but an income model from that through its simple engines, financial engines like that, would probably make people think it is possible, it is achievable. And another thing, Nicole, throughout the book, I never wanted to use the stick. I wanted to use the approach of the carrot.

So it was not the tariffs, but the incentives that creates the difference between. between a stick and a carrot. That's the way to achieve this. So, and that is possible globally, you know, in that space. So I think that my purpose in implementing this thing through a black president is to bring down the availability and the relationships of the readers and hopefully the watchers. were level where thinking, yes, this can be possible. And that was what was ingrained in the writing and the scripting of the book. Yeah, it's amazing.

Yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed it being like a character, you know, because I think it's really important for us. We get so, as humans, we like to box things and we like to kind of have our own biases and stereotypes. And it's very difficult for us to separate ourselves from those things, you know. but if you have a character, and this is why we love watching movies, this is why we love fantasy and involving ourselves in books that take us out of our reality because it allows us to open up our minds and our hearts to things.

And I would love to see this as a movie. I feel like this is what media is for is to change the world and show us that things are possible. So many times I've watched a film and I'm like, oh, that is my experience. Oh, okay, actually, if I did this, this may be it would have helped us. me, you know? So you learn through media. It's a wonderful transformational tool. I mean, it could go both ways. But if you use it with beautiful intention, it's amazing. And I love that you created this character. So yeah, tell me a little bit more about kind of creating that character

and what that felt like for you and, you know, crafting this person and where they came from. Did it feel like it was a lot of your own journey? Or do you feel like that? you could really like separate yourself and write the character. In Nicole, one of the things that I have learned is unless I have gone through that experience, it doesn't qualify me to create or build on that experience because I cannot see, that's why in the entrepreneurship you have millions of book as how to become a successful entrepreneur. The people who write the book have never been an entrepreneur of execution themselves. They just read some things and collect the thoughts.

And now, of course, Chad GPD-1 makes it easy. But the point is that unless you have gone through the process, it becomes very difficult to put the realistic picture of any of that thing in a executable manner. So each element of that book, the element of the stories, have been in some way actually successfully or unsuccessfully experienced and executed by my personal journey to becoming an entrepreneur. So that's one. Secondly, you know, the bonds of these kinds of things, the stories have to have to. begin with some vision and promise and the reason I brought Obama's childhood in my college is because I wanted to inspire that you can see and think the vision of

what one can be and then begin to persevere that process through. So as a person as a kid who comes into my St. John's High School. And the teacher seller asked, you know, please write a story on whom you want to be. And this new coming kid

comes in the class and says, I want to be the father of nations. Brinks the innocence of the childhoodness to create a potential inspiration that has to then survive.

through all the realities and the testful journeys of life, to still keep the focus on his childhood dream of becoming the father of nations. Was the anchoring, underlining, you know, sort of the element to it, that it needed a person to him to remember what he had said and how it evolved. And that was the role. of this Indian boy which I thought, you know, was my experience as him speaking and how through

the colleges every element of that, you know, because for example, the technology transfer thing was an organization that I ran as a college student, which didn't go too many far, but it taught me a lot of things of bringing low, cheaper technologies to create local, products and stuff like that. So that was not something that was victory. Actually, I went through a couple of years and I'm making him as a part of that journey gives him the foothold and the confidence that this is possible. So that because, you know, then the mission and the determination that him as a human being

to that cause becomes real. But essentially my heart speaking through his determination because he is in a position to execute that, that was how that thing went to the next stage and being implemented from the senator and keeping in touch and all of that, that is a fiction to be made. But I was in Madison, Wisconsin.

He was in Chicago. So there are bridges. of realities, but they have nothing to do with actual engagement. That's why it's a political fiction in its manner. But the anchorage of that is real, my journey, because I did have a visa and all of that. Those are real facts. Those are my real journeys. And then as he comes to the place to really understanding the disparity, I've got to take him back to South.

Africa to his roots. And that's why setting up a location of transformation into the roots where he came from, where such a capability, other science or certain older technologies could create vibrancy in an economy is a real thing because that is what I did of setting up solar production plants in different parts of the world. So every element of this has a... certain level of high integrity knowledge that has been embedded in each of these principles. I love that you've woven this all together in the most beautiful way.

And I think it's quite amazing, I'm sure, when you were writing and, you know, how the flow of ideas come, but they eventually do intermingle in creating a book. So I want to honor that and say, you know, again, thank you for putting this out into the world. And I'm such a firm believer of, you know, all of us together creating, like you mentioned, quantum wealth in the book. And that's something that we all are, that is meant for us. We deserve to have that, you know. And maybe you can just kind of give our audience a little bit of an insight into what is quantum wealth to you. Yeah.

See, I want to create a discomfort in the minds of the readers. Because every one of us probably goes to a restaurant and think I should own a restaurant. I mean, because there's cash, they see, oh, one of these days I'm going to own a day. Every of my damn friends, 99% would never do nothing, 99.9.9.9.9.9. would never do anything about it. But they feel good, they see the cash flow, they see the gloryness of it, but they don't see the hard work

that goes into keeping a restaurant going because they're unfamiliar with it and they would never even think of doing that kind of stuff. So why I created, when you have a job, when you take a job, you get your paycheck on time, you get your 401ks, you get even your RSUs and your healthcare.

So it's a cash flow, you know. There is a cash flow. It's predictable. All jobs are risky, but it's predictable. I call that as cash flow wealth. One is not bigger or smaller than the other, because you know that you work, you will get the money in your bank. But as an entrepreneur, it's very different.

The reason you go into the entrepreneurship as a wealth creation engine is not because you get this RSUs or you get these things. It's because when you succeed, somebody at whether at exit or whatever it is, gives you this chunk of wealth. So I use the word quantumness of wealth because it's a relative word, you know, $10 to, billions of dollars, right? So the ability to get that wealth in a package. So the only place that has is where in entrepreneurship, where entrepreneurial ventures can be sold to somebody to create that accessibility to wealth, then you have the option to share to do anything with it.

So the definition of quantum wealth is, is contrary to the cash flow wealth, which has lesser risk of execution and doesn't have the big reward. But you can also see this, Nicole, the top 100 richest people in the world. 99 of people of their wealth is created through entrepreneurship. You don't see the CEO of Chase

or the CEO of Bank of America or, you know, being in the top 500 people of wealthiness, right? The wealth that is created is not by the sea of Goldman Sachs. Of course, he's a billionaire. But Larry Ellison and Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg, which none of that even existed. 1050, just to give you an example, in the same Google, the founders of Googles have created huge wealth.

Of course, the CEO of Google Panchal has created wealth. But, and it's lots of wealth, but it's not that quantumness of wealth that has been created. So I consider entrepreneurship as a pathway, an opportunity to create that quantum wealth. And that's the definition between quantum wealth and cash flow wealth. I love that. I love it. And I also feel like while you were talking, this idea came up. to me that perhaps why it's so profound is that it's addressing the gaps and in society.

You know, when we're all entrepreneurs and we're looking for the gaps, we're trying to build better as a community and as a society, then it can create quantum wealth, not just for ourselves, but for everyone, because now everything's multiplying exponentially. So I really love that concept. And I want to kind of put it out there in the universe that we can all do this together, you know, and it's such a, it's not just a dream, it can be a reality in which is exactly what your book is trying to say. I also wanted to ask you, you know, kind of what is your message to people reading the book? Yes, we have the wonderful power of one leader that has influence to be able

to change the world and be the father of nations, but for each one of us in our own journey, what is it that you feel people could do tomorrow to create that wealth together and create more community? That's a very powerful part, Nicole. And it's the upside-down pyramid of what the book is about, right? In everything, in what you want to do and what I've loved about you since day one

is the passion you have. When you speak, you speak with passion. Of course, God has given you the grace, the beauty and all of that. But the passion that is being embedded in you, it just comes out, right? Because you speak about yourself with that passion. So, in order for anyone to be able to have the desire,

and most people do, I don't know what percentage is, but I would say more than 60, 70%, maybe 80% of the people always have a passion in it. Culturally, they are, you know, rail-guarded in their journey to think or think outside

because of the responsibility of the family, etc, etc, right? So there are guardrails that get put on on you during the process. But small or big, right? the ability and the desire to create wealth, you know, exist for everybody. My message to each one of those people, people who want to go get up for the job. Even they come to me at the age of their retired, they said, you know, now that they have the time to fulfill their dream, you know, because they have taken care of the responsibility and stuff like that.

that. So they have associated in their mind that this entrepreneurship is a game of roulette and they don't want to play that game, which it can be unless and I mean it doesn't have to be. But it is in overall because of the success rates and stuff like that. It is that case. But the if you take that out, they come to you and says, I want to now do, I don't know now, but I've always wanted to be. an entrepreneur right so my next book is about entrepreneurship in the golden years because we can create engagements of minds less you know less healthcare cost or i mean these are just by giving the government is better of giving a small dollars of to start them in small entrepreneurial businesses and have their minds engaged and have rather than pay for this huge medical cost that is a

side effect. That's just one element. The point is that I want these people not age-related in any ways that there are tools that they should explore at opportunities that they can identify that would be able to get to the beginning of the process. Otherwise, Nicole, you are like the Wall Street guy who's buying the Wall Street every day, never invest a single penny in the Wall Street, but plays a fake game of buying and stocks and selling the stocks.

It is not the same as putting your own money in to really know how this game really impacts. So if there is this thought process in that person, I want to do it, then it is up to him or her to find these opportunities, whether it is in the rural area, whether it is a semi-urban area or the urban area, that it is possible for them to create those opportunities, right? And the 90% of the people, Nicole will tell you, oh, you know, I want to do my job and I want to do this on the side hustle and things like that. Okay. You know, that may be a reasonably way to start. But, you know, it requires that passion that you have, the commitment thing you have to go pursue and make that happen. So my message, if there is, I'm not capable of delivering a message. But I can suggest to these people that, hey, look at the.

possibility if you really want to do this explore the possibility of making it happen don't just think of what it would be and what i should do and should i own a restaurant and anything like that there are lots of little ways that the world is going to be full of entrepreneurial opportunities especially with all the bigger tasks being taken away by this whole AI and whatever infrastructure of AI. Under developed nations, it may not be, but there are still opportunities to be able to make this happen. And there are elements in which they could create these things for themselves. They don't have to work. They could go to a company and says, sir, you know, I'm working here. Can I do this by myself? Or can you help me reduce your cost so I can go do this for you?

That is a very effective way of getting into the process of wealth creation. So whether it is called entrepreneurship, whether it is called entrepreneur, it really doesn't matter. So the awareness that needs to be there for them, that it is possible for them to create these wealth creation opportunities that are outside the element of their thinking. because now they are going into the they don't know what they don't know space. You see, there are three areas of the universe as you know. You know what you know, which is one to two percent of the opportunities that the universe brings. Then there is the you know what you don't know, which means you know your uncle has something,

but you don't know that. But that's another two to three percent of the universe opportunities. But 95% plus of the opportunities that the universe has is in the you don't know what you don't know space. You and I are exploring an opportunity in the don't know what you don't know space. I don't know you, you don't know me, we are trying to put something together that would create syndicated capabilities and stuff like that.

The challenge, Nicole, is in the don't know what you don't know space, before you get a breakthrough, the possibility of getting a breakdown is very high. So if you work through that breakdown, the rewards of the breakthrough are significant. And that's what successful entrepreneurs do. They work through that breakthrough, you know, breakdowns to create these breakthroughs. Now, breakthroughs can be small or breakthroughs could be big. But my second message to these kinds of, once you have identified this with a passion, then persistence after passion is the next thing to enable that to create the steps.

So then once you have the persistence, you have. And then my last is never lose humility. Because in any journey of creating wealth or friend, humility is the most powerful tool that you can have for learning. Most entrepreneurs have their egos so high. And so have I had it in my journey. So I speak where I had to kill my work on killing my ego. and you know and still does show up sometime but at least now I'm aware of it so having humility

as a tool in that process of passion and persistence creates a much more probability of success in what you intend to do and that is my book through the message because everything the book the father president has the humility to go do these things he has the passion he has the persistence in executing such a global implementation. Oh, you said it so nicely. I love that. And just before you said humility, I wanted to give another P.

I was going to say it's the three P's, you know, passion, persistent, and I was going to say pray because I'm finding that entrepreneurship is driving me to my knees. But humility is definitely that. You know, I think that when you go into that space, you have to kind of step out of the way. have to really channel what wants to come into the world. And if that means, you know, killing the ego and re-identifying with yourself every single

day in a new way, it's worth it, I think. And yeah, I want, thank you for the message to everyone. I believe in prayers myself, but it is not necessarily always a global message. because prayer means you hope for success. But, you know, obviously humility allows you to work for success. And so, you know, so that's, of course, we all must be thankful, which is a definition of a prayer. You know, you're thankful, you ask.

And, you know, I agree with you, but in a business world, you know, it becomes difficult to provide a definition around the role other than it is the inspiration to connect with yourself and connecting with yourself creates the entrepreneurship in the now and which is what you and had talked about last time you know what is the entrepreneurship and i'm glad you clarified i love i i'm glad you clarify that because you know prayer i agree with you that that hope is such a strange concept, but when you can tune into your inner self and like you were following your nudges and your journey, you know, to write the book, I also believe gratitude is such a powerful, powerful, powerful, powerful energy attracting abundance and maybe quantum wealth to you and helping you kind of take your steps in any process and anything in life that you are

tackling. So again, thank you so much for writing the book. Thank you for being who you are in the world as an entrepreneur and creating quantum wealth for yourself and others. I also believe as we do things for ourselves, we are collectively doing them for others because we're all kind of one. And we're here for one life experience. So I really, really appreciate that. And yeah, thank you for coming onto the podcast again. And, you know, I was going to ask you about technology. You addressed that already.

I was going to ask you what's next. You told me it's the book for the oldies. You answered all the questions. But I just want to say thank you as a final thought. There's only one question I have of you is when you read the book, you know, as you read through the book and if and when you're associated related to yourself in the progress of the book, what was the three takeaways including the, because as a writer, I want to know what a reader feels. And so, you know, it's an important aspect for me to learn, and I want to learn from you about what your assessment of the book was.

It's such a great question. And I, well, I felt like because it resonated so much with me as a person, I felt it was really inspiring. What's also really interesting, I think, is how you kind of wrote between it being so like tool-based, like you said, and being a fictional story. I found that for me that it made it really easy to relate to because sometimes when I read fantasy, I just delve myself into a different world, and it's hard to sometimes relate your life to that. but and then when you just read like something that's more self-development or like toolkit based that you very like in your mind you know and so being able to bring those two worlds together I think it's really beautiful and to me it was really inspiring in my own journey of entrepreneurship and also creating community around the world so that was my takeaway from it and being

reading it so I really appreciate that well thank you for that I hope that you know if you readers or anybody has any questions, we can always create an interactive exchange, you know, and you are such a gift to the world of podcasts that I wish you a tremendous success. And, you know, and let us see how we can create another beautiful journey of entrepreneurship in the NAF together. Thanks, Sanjeev. I really appreciate that. And to everyone listening out there, stay tuned until the next field session. And I really hope that wherever you are on your journey, you are reading, you are happy and you are happily reading and until the next time.