Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura - 507-DMC-Your Mom's House with Christina P and Tom Segura
Episode Date: July 10, 2019As it turns out, the intro petition is gaining steam. Tom also starts the show bringing up his poll in regards to the future of "The Fart Mic." Thankfully Big Red is here to break up the tension. Your... Mom's House continues to hear success stories about those inspired to start selling panties and feet pictures on the internet. Plus, more TikToks and an update on a recent appearance from Theo Von. The legendary DMC is now inside of Studio Jeans!! Tom and Christina realize immediately that he is not only one of the most famous people to have been on the couch, but one of the nicest. DMC tells us how he grew up worshiping Superheroes and how they inspired his music. We hear about how he met all the other legends he's worked with over the years including a hilarious story about Aerosmith. Pull them high and pull them tight, Mommy.
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i think
fucking know what forget his name
is it Matthew Miller that made that
i don't know but it really is a
treasure a national treasure
it really is a great song
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yeah this is a
really
fuckin
patriotic song
yeah
i think it was George Bush that first
played that song when he was in office
the first George Bush the elder one
that just passed
he was like
jeans and my cunt
it was a big big deal so
it's really well
if a candidate use that song
as their campaign song for 2020
yeah you voted I'm voting
like if Trump use this I'd be like you
know what bro
you have my vote
four more years dog
you have good taste in music
you know how to pick a tune
that's what I would tell them
this guy looks crazy
do you know this guy
no but he looks interesting
interesting is right
alright he's gonna say something
crazy I don't know let's just see
let's get into it it's the
new episode your mom's house
let's get let's party Jean let's do
it ready you see big red in the
background
yeah man I know I told you I got
the fucking visine I got the red
out but I think she did some shit
to my orange juice because I was
fucking scratching the door
six a.m. this morning
I'll let your big red come out
you can't handle the truth
that's what she said
read my lips
no
new
hats
welcome
to your mom's house
sorry
with
what
Segura
what the fuck is this
yeah that was terrible
did you
you didn't like that
are you serious
read my lips
we talked last week about how you
wanted like a little more
innovation and stuff that you want
to you know you want to
innovate with the intro I thought
that meant you want to go in a
different direction yeah but that
has nothing to do with your mom's
house
read my lips no new taxes
was that bush
you know
there's experimenting seeing what
works doesn't it doesn't make sense
for the list wasn't that Jack
Nicholson from
from a few good men I don't know
where I got it from you can't handle
the truth oh yeah that is where
yeah that's yeah but we don't even
play that that's on a drop on the
show Nadov like you know but it's
aggressive you know we're trying to
it is nothing to do with the show
okay you can't handle the truth
she said
read my lips
that's what she said
welcome to your mom you're that's
what she said that's the best you
can do that's like an office joke
that's what people say around the
Xerox machine
it's sounding we're better than
this is a miss
a miss
this is terrible this isn't even
remotely in the same stratosphere
is what we want to be in this is a
page one rewrite I'll come back with
something better and then you have
Tim he puts him or do you want to go
back to class I mean was that
him out you can't even put him out
was that her that's his trademark
sound that's like putting in Larry
the cable guy you can't even play
that in a dog that's what wait a
minute what is you think Tim out I
want to know the logic yeah what
Tim Allen going
why because you're laughing right
now because I'm laughing at how bad
of an idea it is right
that's what you're leaning on here's
how bad this idea you know it's dumb
it's fun it's funny it's not fun it's
dumb shit that's like comedy
yeah it's like office it's like
office people humor that's what she
said yeah yeah such a dad
but is that like for the dad boner
oh so this would have been better
like a like a year ago when we were
more in the dad boner no no no
every day of every year forever
it's not funny never a good day this
devastating here I was trying to be
creative and are you being serious
I mean I thought okay what you want
to hear no the answer I wanted what I
thought and I'm sure what a lot of
people thought whether or not it's
agreed upon I thought we were getting
our 12 minute intro today oh gosh
well I mean that's I thought we were
tabling that why would we table that
nobody wants I was just reading the
room I thought that's what nobody wants
the 12 minute okay let me okay I'm
just going to pull it up myself because
I can't rely on you right now so
sorry let's see change.org
longer as a joke it's not it's not an
intro nobody really wants to sit through
12 minutes of that nonsense I just want
to say something okay yeah what are the
signatures we're just under 6000
signatures
that's people who took time out of
there more than yeah that that wanted
to sign on it looks like there's
another petition here down with the
fart mic no oh and how's that one
doing holy shit yeah let's talk about
the fart mic petition that has 5900
signatures oh stop it does that's an
important issue what's what are you
talking about who are these people that
don't like the fart mic are you being
serious now that's crazy yeah that's
fake that's fake it's not I don't believe
this these are the same people who don't
want a long intro these are maniacs these
aren't the real listeners of the show so
wait so for next week what what are we
doing with the with the intro okay look
experimental I fucking didn't think you
were going to okay so I misinterpreted
what you meant by when you said it okay
I just misunderstood this is just a
misunderstanding I feel like we're having
a lot of misunderstandings about this I
don't know I don't know how to like
honestly yeah I I mean I'm legit losing
sleep over this like I'm I'm I'm so I
should be really explicit probably right
in explaining how it should go mm-hmm
okay so I mean I would think that if
you were gonna try something different
with the intro you would use at least
drops from this show and not George HW
Bush giving a speech at the fucking
I mean that's like 20 years old what
then Tim Allen doing his pig man sound
and then that's what she said so maybe
maybe stick to drops from this show that
would be a good one yeah like the moose
soup they got you guys are doing good
there's only a thousand yeah related to
that people really know you know maybe
I'm just glassing I caught a moose there
you know or rub rub rub got it okay so
why am I jeans up I would say that what's
with the jeans like that okay stuff like
that yeah it's like all right why in
nature references okay that's a lot more
clear I appreciate the direction this
whole thing I don't know don't look at
me and I'm not getting rid of the fart
mic I fought long and hard for a fart
mic and it's not good I will look I'm
reluctant to admit this but I'll pull it
up right now I'll pull it up what I can't
tell you first of all I can't tell you
how many people told me I said Ben
Salem wrong there it is there's the the
poll I put up how many votes 18,000
people voted that's more than who voted
in the last election 18 thousand
people and I had the question was should
we remove the fart mic from my image
studio of the 18,000 people who voted
43% said yes over it no but 57% said no
I'm gross see and that's a lot of people
57% is a lot of people and see I knew it
I knew it I knew it yeah I knew it thank
you guys I appreciate your support for
my fart mic I think Tom's just a little
jealous because he hasn't really done a
lot of good work on the mic and I think
if you maybe improved your batting
average you feel differently about the
fart mic Tom I probably would probably
feel more positively about it too if I
had a staff that could follow the
intro okay well and lay off of him
because you're also scaring this shit
out of him you're very scary when you
get mad right Nadam and it doesn't
encourage him not creative you're
terrifying I'm not mad but you're you
don't understand how scary you are when
you're even look at you like that right
now those hate daggers like it thank God
I've worked on my co-dependency issues
in therapy because I would internalize
that as my fault I would try to oh so
scary you're very terrifying all right
I don't want to hear anything like that
anymore okay he gets it okay can we
please go on with the show yeah let's go
off the show okay so yeah what are you
gonna talk about well look I wanted to
get into this guy oh yeah I was even
talking about this guy is really one of
my favorites what the fuck is he
talking about is a great way to start
the conversation he is he's on the beach
for those of you listening and he looks
like big-time big-time Tommy what's his
name a little bit yeah I mean like big
fat red old guy big fat red white guy
isn't that a genre of white guys no he
is he's he's a genre of big fat old white
guy they just they get redder with
alcoholism and listen in the sun yeah
yeah but he's also got a certain
energy to him don't you think do you
think it's drugs or mental illness my
favorite game in the whole world because
there's one of the two is definitely
going on because it doesn't make sense
right I mean go ahead and just yeah like
just get out there and fucking rock
this day I already started 7am man listen
she is everybody it's just better than
morning coffee I'll tell you right now
yeah so he but he just held up a can
of Coors Corona yeah yeah yeah okay so I
didn't even know Corona came in a can
that's how I've never why never seen
Corona and have you know I didn't know
that was I just realized it like right
now it just hit me like I've only seen
bottles of Corona and this fucking
psycho managed to find a can now here's
the thing I'm gonna go with alcoholism
and drugs because now here's the
telltale yeah the teeth are in good
shape he's got great teeth he's got a
great smile no he actually takes care
of his physical appearance I'm yes he's
obese and red but other than that he's
got you know he takes care of him he
grooms his hair so that rules out a
little bit mental illness okay cuz the
guys like you know I'm saying like the
I'll make you come like that guy's
clearly mentally ill he doesn't have his
teeth he doesn't really take care of
himself the same way that this man does
so this guy is employed he's just he
is he actually owns a business oh did
I mean I wonder what yeah getting good at
this even you see big red in the background
yeah man I know I told you I got the
fucking visine I got the red out but I
think she did some shit to my orange
juice because I was fucking scratching
the door six a.m. this morning what I'm
deducing from this is that the lady he
calls her big red right and then he made
reference to her in his own video and
she gets up and leaves she's like I got
to deal with this fucking lunatic all
day that could have been like I was
trying to get laid this morning I was
just like yeah you know I wanted to like
just go do something yeah he's one of
those gross east coast people like big
time Tommy he's like okay scratch no
door yeah I want to fall like you know
I mean like they think they're being
really funny and clever I mean being
gross he's positive though no I like him
yeah we're at the beach
having a good time carol is the way
you know it was a part of this one
flying by me to see later oh shit I had
to swim in because they think I'm I
swim so gracefully strong they think I'm
part of the pod all right baby rock and
roll today he works hard he's blowing it
off you think so well here's why I don't
think he's working hard and blowing off
the steam he's got a library of videos
fuck and they're all like that oh no he's
not just it's not just Sunday morning
okay it is it is all the time it's all
the time he's like all party guy oh yeah
this is like Bert in 10 years okay let's
yeah yeah yeah man good afternoon
everybody there man look I got no my
boy came from from San Fran to visit
New York and he calls me up to come to
meet me when I saw me had a fucking
Kool-Aid smile he's like shit what's
from here to here he's gonna believe it
what that's how he tells a story of like
my story would go like so my friend
wanted to come meet me yeah he came from
San Francisco and he was really happy
to be here this is everybody damn man
look I got my boy came from from San
Fran to visit New York and he calls me
up to come to meet me when I saw me had
a fucking Kool-Aid smile he's like shit
what's from here to here he couldn't
believe it I thought he was coming from
Brooklyn he went to Manhattan I'm in the
Bronx but that shit's a hike so he said
his other trainers and get off bro I'll
pick you up man I picked them up from the
trades that he had the Kool-Aid smile he
couldn't believe it but this is the way
I am man tell her ask him I think he's
tech talked
I don't take talk dude you got to open
an account bro you got to start putting
these on tiktok yeah this is I'm all
around you saw blondie yesterday that
girl's pretty as he has a fucking
overachieve my whole life I always
overachieve I can't sometimes pitch
myself y'all you fat you fucking get
ball how you get nice looking girls
because like my parents told me I was
good because I think it okay can I tell
you what actually a good point now he's
right he's he's on point I believe what
you're told about yourself but like that
that actually is it that's a huge deal
yeah it's a huge deal when you tell
people things and you and you put it in
their head and they believe it yeah like
he said he has enough self-awareness
he's like I'm not a fucking supermodel
but in my head I believe it I believe
looking it's a very good philosophy
yeah I'm exhausted listening to him
what part what part like don't people
like I have so much anxiety watching him
pull up his instagram can I tell you
something Jean yeah because when I hear
him talking I'm imagining that I have
to listen to it yeah like that he's got
there's a woman with him yeah all day
I imagine I'm a hostage to this non-sense
yeah and I have to be like yeah yeah
that's the way he came and he had a
kool-aid smile like I don't even know what
the kool-aid smile means he tells you
his dumb stories yeah yeah but on the
other hand aren't you a bit envious that
he's this excited over nothing of course
yeah that's the part where I was saying
drugs are mental illness yeah yeah it's
fucking I wish I could just get this
stoked over picking my friend up at the
remember the name of his Instagram Jesus
Christ with this oh my god I'm dropping
the ball left and right today guys
what is going on with you it's a
holiday week you know it's just
everything so it's your haircut yeah you
got a tiktok haircut now you're acting
all tick-tocked big time Tommy are you
looking for him right yes man it's like
organic laundry or something pure
organic dry cleaning oh he's that's the
business yeah damn it oh my gosh this
guy on the Bronx yeah there there it is
he's on Instagram at pure organic dry
cleaning oh my god oh my god this is him
all day every every post he's thoroughly
stoked about nothing yeah yeah yeah
good morning everybody let's go baby 6am
let's get on that fucking double man
no I gotta remember my house it's
fucked up when I look in that mirror I
tell people that shit we savvy it doesn't
go get a good looking fucking off I
get out of my mind now I got this
fucking head my boy made for me and I
gotta hang it from the mirror and that's
just talking to me it's called me I
can't look at this but to me I'd rather
everybody I need a nap no we have to
do everybody you know what I got some
Canadian follows I got pleaded I tell
you people I fucking love everybody
everybody I go I told you take me out
country Western night I put fucking
straw between my teeth I'll be fucking
live dancing do you think though he's
a drug the ghost of Christmas future for
Burt you think that that's kind of like
what he's gonna be like yeah like in a
few years he'll be like you know this
touring is too much but I like going out
I like drinks and he'll just start like
just no no what it is is the kids are in
college and he's healing and are gonna
go on the bus and this is just what he's
gonna do now on the bus no
responsibility yeah this guy is so
exhausting I hate him like I'd hate to
be with him I can't I'd rather watch
tech talk all day long and find the
people I find he's Portuguese and I'm
sure he's very proud of it and he has to
tell you that you know I'm from Brazil
I just a Portugal my parents came over
when I was two years old they speak
Portuguese yeah you kind of got it I know
he's gonna do that whole thing he's he's
so Portugal pride baby this level of
energy is so foreign to me that I can't
even I can't even mimic it I don't like
you know I mean like I can't pretend like
I can do a little bit like hi guys do
his big time I can do him a little bit
he's a little more subdued yeah he's a
guy yeah this guy cocaine it's a
combination of cocaine and tech talk
together I think that's what every
single one of these I'm out here at the
beach and he's always another look at
his how white is there oh shit because
you can see that he darkened it right
after yeah yeah oh yeah oh yeah nice and
easy but today's extra special man it's
beautiful hey june 10 Monday I'll be at
the Yankee making good what do you want
me to say hi to you like I'm at the
Yankee making everybody say hi to me
I'm on Instagram oh hey yeah enough
this guy's like that guy right haha he
is my will give him guys I think I do
love cute little old fat guys like I
think he's cute and he's adorable and I
probably would like him in real life
you probably would like I'd hug him
be like hey crazy you probably have to
apologize for have to shit you know but
he does get exiled like I picture
myself having to fly across the country
yeah I can't yeah he's okay what's this
I just want to see that we can close it
after this I want to see I'm done I'm
just a positive I got a special guest
today man only from Benson hurts this is
all this is the best man in the chance
no child labor to verify it your organic
you bring whatever there is today turn
around maybe even sooner I'm done all
the way from Benson where's that like
that's another part of the Bronx or
something it's like down the corner and
they joke about it like he came all the
way from Harlem but it's the same
neighborhood it's not the same never you
know you know what you mean like he
came from Santa Monica yeah to the
valley yeah okay they love being like
representing areas and stuff yeah sounds
like it sounds like you wanted to put an
end to that fun we were I can't I can't
he shuts me down okay that's too bad
it's too bad everybody all done thank
you should we update our our fetish
friends for update you ready sure so we
got first we got update we both got
messaged by our initial contact Kay
remember yeah she messaged I got kicked
off of Instagram doing her foot fetish
yeah got like they shut down selling
photographs she was selling photographs
well she but it was just like photos and
then she was like DM me for custom work
mm-hmm then Instagram just like shut it
down but what we've learned is that
Twitter's a lot more forgiving take it
to Twitter take it to Twitter Twitter's
are cesspool you can sell buckets of
jizz on Twitter they are ready they don't
care Twitter has zero community guidelines
yeah right yep they'll show the cucumber
challenge all day and every day also was
a message by a number of guys are like
I'm giving the foot thing a try yeah
they're selling there they're trying to
pay those bills with their feet with guy
feet yeah there's like a whole we
inspired a whole community it is what
the message that I got yeah so yeah you
know I think you have to be careful you
know I was surprised we had our pre-show
meeting and Potter was like really
laying the law down on how this is
supposed to go and he said you know the
correct hashtags are what's important so
I think he's going to do a little
tutorial maybe what you should be doing
that's a great idea and then I think we
should have all the boys show us their
feet and we can see who's the nicest
foot mom fuck I'm gonna throw up who do
you think has the worst feet of the
people that work here
definitely blue band right well you know
my suspicion always would be Josh on
everything I know but then he you know he
would be the first to admit it and he
he said actually he said that his are
alright so that means I believe him
he would he wouldn't say it if it
weren't true you're right and I do think
that Josh hooks up with women and
therefore has to be a little cleaner than
yeah I mean any hooks up so I think his
feet are probably okay do you try to say
that I don't know Nadav how many checks
I just never hear you talking about your
love life so I don't know yeah I mean you
know I kind of keep it personal but yeah
I do hook up with women wow and my feet
are not a deal breaker
oh wow he's got that he's got like red
toe hair yeah probably Jen's got red hair
that red toe hair a little webbed your
webbed feet I got some webbing I knew it
are you guys gonna start selling
custom videos I mean yeah if there's a
demand for it all totally makes my
feet by blue I wonder which one of you
guys would sell the most of those guys
oh I know who has the worst feet it's
gotta be Chris yeah why cuz I just
believe it I think anything that you're
like I wonder who's who's he's gonna be
the guy standing in the back yeah who in
his head he's like I'm definitely I've
definitely got it worse think so and
that yeah and then like when it's time
to show he's as long as you put like a
better something on it he'll be like see
give me that money might have the worst
remember his ball hair yeah that's what
nine inches that's what makes me think it
might be him press because he had the
longest yeah long tube which means he's
not really paying attention fucker had a
tube like that yeah yeah it's nasty as
hell now your feet are nice though I
have nice feet actually speaking of feet
I went I snuck out of the house we were
gone this weekend and I was along with
the kiddos and I snuck out to go get a
Chinese foot massage at this local place
and it was kind of dicey like I walked in
they were still doing construction
instruction yeah it was like you know
whatever put off plastic anyway I walk
in and the lady behind the desk and she
goes you want male female and I go
female she goes we have a male and I was
like okay male and I normally don't like
getting massaged by man she's Spanish I
was just trying to peg the accent yeah
they said a Tibetan foot massage any
noodles I'm very skeptical of a male
masseuse I don't generally don't like
them and at the whole time I'm like
when's this guy gonna do something weird
you know really been there yeah so he
starts fending so many why male masseuse
community yeah whenever you I'm not a
pervert I don't care yeah I don't care
so anyway he's rubbing both my shoulders
right I'm sitting up in the chair and
he's rubbing my shoulders and then all
the sudden I feel one hand lift right
and now there's only one hand on one
shoulder mm-hmm yeah so in my mind I'm
like oh he's probably jacking his dick
you really thought that I a hundred
percent do he's just gonna stand there
rub his shoulder and jack his dick yes
because that's what guys do that's how
nasty men are rub shoulder rubbing a
hundred percent but then I reminded
myself I was like you know what in my
the history of my life I've never seen a
Chinese guy masturbate in public I've
only ever seen old homeless white guys
doing it and then in my head I was like
you're not pervers isn't an old homeless
white guy there yeah he's probably not
sure cuz I'm you know how many times
you've ever seen like a Chinese guy
jerk off in public it's just not
culturally they don't do that that's
true I haven't seen that right yeah I've
seen a black I take a shit right and I've
seen yeah I've seen a white guy play with
himself and piss and shit white guys do
that it's usually white guys it's not the
Asian part of our appeal yeah look at
all the me too stuff all horny white
guys pretty much not one Asian guy in
that I haven't seen an Asian guy in the
mix see but his he did a really great
job and I'm gonna go back to him again
because oh so what happened was it
wasn't that he was jerking off he was
using two hands on one shoulder and then
he would switch and do two hands but
let's Heather let's have a real
conversation about this I thought we
did no no I'm saying let's say your
suspicions are confirmed yeah and you
turn and he's he's giving you a nice
shoulder rub with one hand and jacking
off with the other hand do you say
anything or just let it go no I get up
and I go hey I whoa I go hey dude hey
dude that you hit when I get panicked
when something happens I usually go hey
hey dude and then I get up and I I would
get up and leave yeah I would I would
not you let him finish yeah if it was a
really good yeah yeah yeah if it was if
I was like Jesus man oh I'm really
sinking into like falling asleep and
then he's like almost done and I and I
noticed and I just noticed he's just like
he's like I'm not gonna shoot it on you
I'm just gonna shoot it over in the
corner well that's the big question
because that's that's what I kept
thinking if he shoots it on you that's
super disrespectful right for sure but
if he just turns and is like it's over
here well that's what I was thinking
when I was thinking that he was
masturbating I thought well where's he
gonna finish well in my head in my head
I'd be like if I notice him
masturbating I would just go he needs to
get one out like I would understand I'd
have empathy I'd be like he's backed up
he's really got it figured out do you
think he could do it at a better time
he could but I'd be like he must really
need to get this one out so I forgive
him would you forgive a guy for doing
that no no if he's jerking off but he's
like he's doing a really good job on
your neck with the other hand he's
really getting in there I mean if I
can't see you know out of sight out of
my there you go yeah I'd be alright
okay and I will can't hear it well I
wanted I was I will admit that because
I couldn't hear it and you can tell when
a guy is jerking off because the rest
of them shakes ever so slightly and I
was like well I don't feel I don't feel
like this shake so I'm like it's
definitely not that I feel you have some
real intuition about how the body shakes
ever so slightly I know that cuz like you
know you've I've been around dudes you
know jerking off since I was 15 I mean
I've seen I've seen Latino guys jerking
off in church when I was in Mexico in
church I saw a man masturbating in a
church in Mexico was he being chill about
or trying to was he mean was he like yeah
he was like trying to look I was like
12 so he was making eye contact and
masturbating I've seen a guy in Hungary
on a bus jerking off I've seen white
homeless guys what what what was that
for guys jerking off okay what am I
supposed to be anyways but I've never
seen an Asian guy be pervert never I've
never had that that's what I would say
yeah jerking off so weird when guys do
that in public why I've seen a guy do
it in the car remember in redondo white
guys never Asian ever Asian and then
you saw an interesting dick yesterday
holy shit holy shit I saw one at
school yeah I went to pick up our older
kid he's in class yeah and one of the
other kids dad's yeah was wearing gray
loose sweatpants it was a birthday party
and yeah his kids birthday that's why
the parents I was trying to leave out
specifics oh sorry like that's kind of
how well I will all the parents be at
the school I don't know but that mean
like you know I just thought it was
interesting that he chose to wear what
you're gonna say at a like an event not
just it wasn't just a casual pickup is
what I'm saying like any cursory like
hey yeah get my kid go out that's a
different outfit I guess I mean I
didn't think of the outfit was that
unusual it's different the outfit was
only unusual because he has an animal in
between his legs like the dude had your
you ever go in a pool and seen a noodle
like a thing you can sit on yeah like in
a pool it's like a pool toy yeah he had
one of those between his legs oh my
god this dick I'm not kidding you man it
looked hmm it almost looked like it had
the consistency of a three-quarters hard
dick but it was totally flaccid I mean
like it was thick it was like flapping
around and he was there like I was there
for 20 minutes but he was wearing sweat
pants dude and every time he moved
now his dick and he would he would bend
down by the kid and stand up and then
his dick would pop up like this and I
was like I kept looking at the other
adults like are you guys seeing this
fucking thing you guys see how big this
guy's dick is I thought somebody was
going to say something like hey man you
need this like sir yeah well because he
clearly wasn't wearing panties dude put
some jeans on or something you got to tie
that thing down because he knows he's
got to know course he knows yeah course
he knows I think he I think he does it
because he in not at school but I think
in life in general he probably wants
people to know you know clearly I mean
yeah I I think it's like a it was it
seems like it's something you would do
as a flex or you know he's got he's
probably in his 40s he's just like this
is how I live I've lived like this yeah
was the Asian nope see nope see now
you're definitely on point with your
Asian and yeah but he should have worn
underwear under the sweatpants if he
knew that's what he was pat he might have
had like super loose underwear on he
could have had that on box but this was
like it it was it was a distraction like
I almost said happy birthday to his dick
I was so distracted you're like bought the
candle yeah I was like that too and I
also like I immediately kept looking down
at myself you know I was like Jesus it's
gotta be six times the size of it six
I mean it's that it seemed like it yeah I
wish I why didn't I go to school with
you I wish I would oh my god we would
have had such I I'd never wanted you to
be with me more I I could picture me
just be like and then you would have
noticed it and then like I can't think
of anything else right now I know yeah
well that cuz I've seen big dicks in
public like that under public ever all
your stuff because men are disgusting
where do you see the public big dicks
me too in public I've seen remember the
guy in Miami we were on the beach one
time yeah he kept playing it playing
with it yeah yeah and flopping it wasn't
like this though that was not like I
remember that the Puerto Rican guys on
the beach in Miami they run and they
run in their dick shorts you know I
like it and they're medallions they fly
up and hit them in the face when they
run in stuff very Puerto Rican choice
yeah to have shorts and chains they do
and they jog on the beach shirtless with
the chain and the in the dick move
dick shorts that's why I like them so
much yeah the combination of the two I
do what's cute what's cute about it
it's just it's not a look you see on the
west coast when I'm in Florida I
appreciate it you're like oh Puerto
Rican dick shorts yeah chains I don't
mind seeing swinging dicks around I mean
it didn't bother me yeah I just thought
I guess the setting was like this is a
school I mean I was just like dude I
mean I'm telling you I tried to show you
I tried to catch some video I saw but
that didn't fully capture what was going
on I mean to give like I'm telling you
this thing was like this thick okay and
hanging was like six seven inches long
a fucking hammer on him it's crazy now I
know why his wife kind of has a limp
when she walks I was wondered how I
understand he knew you think he knew
what he was doing there at school I
think it was thinking about a school
let me tell you because I've got big
big monster tits right yeah and I've
I've had them pretty much my whole life
and I know when my boobs are out and when
people can see them if I you know like
you you're conscious you're cognizant of
that stuff yeah he knows he's just
nasty yeah maybe should report him
report what do I do do I go to the
principal I just want to tell you
something yeah you know what's his names
dad got a real big dick and he's not
shy about letting us know and then she
would like did he expose himself nope
I just think it was pretty obvious and
then she questions all the other people
and they're like we didn't notice
anything yeah I'm like I believe me I
couldn't have been the only one not how
do people not notice that kind of stuff
I feel like that's all I notice in the
world dude it was like I almost wanted
to pull him aside and be like come on
man yeah like here fucking dick at school
yeah these are kids I know and they're
all their heads are all they're all dick
height for him yeah here's the other
thing he is a shorter super skinny guy
so he's probably in super skin yeah he's
probably five I don't know maybe five
eight really yeah and make 130 maybe
140 pounds really really slender built
very skinny guy amazing yeah you would
never know fucking sledgehammer yeah
yeah can you do I kind of want to see if
maybe him and his wife sell videos
custom videos should you ask yeah I'll
be like do you guys have like a
Instagram or anything you guys are
what just like I don't know do you guys
ever you guys take requests or anything
like for videos we're such douchebags do
you realize that the way only notice the
horrible things in life like a normal
person would have been like all that guy's
dick is out I shouldn't look you were
like I'm gonna take a video so that my
wife can see it later
real moist I think that's why we found
like we found each other yeah cuz you're
the only I always tell me I never fucked
your mom because I love the awful
things in life too yeah I seek out the
awful and I love it so I appreciate
you yeah that's babe that's the whole
foundation of this show that's why we
have a podcast it's everything you're
describing right now I know yeah I know
okay well we have a lot to get to can we
show my tech talks for God's sakes
alright I've been curating these
painstakingly hold on what no I just
want to make sure that we do we have
time for everything before we we got a
break here in a moment yeah I'd say we
could spend about five or ten and then
we have to get to the thing that we
prepped as well what thing that we
prepped yeah oh yeah yeah okay so we
can do that whatever you want about 20
okay okay okay so let's let's do quickly
tell me what you want
alright it's Christina's TikTok segment
which is has exploded has its own
Instagram following and people listen
the people really respond to my
curations and I wish you would too all
I'm saying is I've shown you some good
things I have to hear these fucking
tiktoks get right into it okay how
many suicides does it take to realize
of what you say online fucking matters
so he mouthed right recorded pretty
bad at it well that's the key to a good
tiktok yeah it was being bad at
took me a while I was trying to sink it
you're like holy shit this is terrible
my dinner my dinner my dinner it's
getting cold I'm gonna eat it now I'm
sorry I'm not talking too long okay bye
my his dinner looks good he's got
check fuck I see people I was around
when they were in their prime and they
sucked in fuck all this bullshit
okay I can get behind this guy yeah I
get behind him I like him a lot I like
him I will say that there's a lot of
variety in this batch like yeah I'm
seeing all the lanes yeah to my husband
Thor's pizza rolls I want steak eggs
bacon and another cup of coffee when I
get home whoa love you she's got Josh
Potter eyes oh those are a lot of gums
to all right many go all right all of
us are the grandchildren of the witches
you didn't burn some of us are the
spirits of the witches that you did
burn
yeah I just keep quiet by the way can I
don't for you're not appreciating go
ahead just go we remember yeah she's
gonna get you back okay did you pay
attention to what she said to you she's
gonna get you back yeah I got it you
know how it is to find these gems
you're just dropping them on the floor
you know how that was all this one's my
favorite I want to tell you something I
opened I opened a tiktok because she
sent me one a horrible one and I swiped
and then and I swiped and it was like
some girl who's you know singing like a
just a regular girl and then I'm like oh
I swiped again dude I couldn't find
anything like this like in a hundred
swipes nothing not one that's what I'm
saying my curation is special yeah I
wish you would fucking just give it the
love keep this guy's my favorite I let's
try to figure out what's going on here
cuz I'm not sure just go ahead and play
this hey princess you look down are you
okay did somebody hurt you mm-hmm oh I'm
sure to hear that you tell us from daddy
come here so I know it's creepy he does
these series of things where he's like
hey princess you look like you need what
a hug and what accent is that I don't
know this what he that's what he's doing
and he goes hey princess and then he's
like do you want a piece of candy
princess here you go all right this may
be unbelievably uncomfortable I know
that's the whole point of tick tock
you're gonna make yourself uncomfortable I
like it that's why I like it because I'm
oh boy oh we're gonna skip over this guy
really I think there's music in here I'm
gonna mute it just me yeah you're a
sadist oh he's doing a lot he's
mouthing along to a to a movie okay why
I didn't know I couldn't and he's a he's
a leather daddy he's got a leather vest
on sleeveless leather vest no shirt he's
got like a camo hat and a beard and kind
of looks like me if I took better care
of myself and if you took poundings and
you know dudes oh this one's good she's
back the morning everybody today Saturday
is really nice out here so all my family
friends I want you have a blessed day and
be safe me and my family we go into a
movie I don't know what we're gonna see
then we're gonna go to Applebee and
come home to rest I'm spent over my
grandkids and my son sounds like a good
day but yeah that's nice she's a nice
lady god damn it fuck hey I'm looking for
tiktok wife if you 18 I'll be open to
talk to you in the car and tell me about
yourself I see that as an open
invitation for you I'm not 18 you got
your over 18 much over 18 maybe he'd
like that now he's got the makings of a
cool guy look at the smoke detector in
the back angle the proposals absurd it's
an absurd request for him
wrong with you wrong with y'all
please okay here's back again I know you
like him hello I'm making dinner I'm
making dinner pancake things and
sausage talk to you in a few okay bye I
like him always sweet okay bye oh this
one's neat yeah I'm making tacos for
dinner it's gonna be good yummy she's
funny right do you realize you're
probably causing listener suicides
right now why I mean do you think that
people want to hear this of course they
do they've been writing that they love
it at the end of it all right let's
let's before we show that we show her
the video that I sent you so we get
like a little back and forth okay the
tree trimming oh yeah you got to see
this this is a wild this is my here's my
tick-tock okay okay all right here we
go
what the fuck happened there
everybody's mortified Tom yeah that was
terrible I know never see someone's head
get knocked off did it get really knocked
off yeah no yeah oh you're right dude
his head got knocked off oh babe this is
terrible I can't unsee this oh it
legit that you're being serious oh wait
is it oh I thought just the helmet went
off bro his head is gone bro oh no or
his neck is snapped off for sure is it
off is it severed it looks off from here
yeah I prepped this really quick you know is
it not just the helmet it's at least the
helmet at least wait but you can't tell
you really can't tell in slow-mo can you
tell huh it's his head severed yeah
here we're going frame by frame okay
all right so there's a helmet on I hear
Josh laughing the hardest okay there's
there's a helmet the helmets flown off
and then what's that thing above his head
this looks like no neck no head is it
real funny Tom whoops yeah I thought it
was I thought it was I saw it at full
speed I thought it was a helmet loss oh
maybe that's his head Jesus okay at least
I just like I like tiktok's on tiktok
you like this is my tiktok yeah all right
guys let's take a list listener poll
who's more messed up Tom or me definitely
in our viewing habits oh yeah so we got
to play this highlight here oh and so one
of the big things that came out of the
Theo episode from a few weeks ago
obviously you know big Theo gate yeah
huge episode it was good time but there
was one interaction where you told him
when you actually first met him when you
met him it was years ago I think it
might have been like on a challenge or
something was after my season of road
rules and then in the late 90s and what
happens is so Theo is in a season of road
rules after me and what happens to to
promote the new the current season that's
airing the season before goes to
challenge the current season so it's like
a way of passing the road rules on and
so that's how I met him the first time
and you went into the specific oh okay
you went into specifics the Guadalajara
you went into specifics on this during
the segment of your like when I met you
I actually remember like holding your
dog for a moment that's right because
that's what I remembered of meeting
Theo the first time because I'm a dog
lover and I never forget a face when I
meet a dog I love them so much and he
had an adorable Chihuahua but on the
Winnebago okay but on when he came here
and you brought it up that's right he
vehemently denied that which was so
bizarre because I remember wanting to
hold his dog and then he wouldn't let me
hold it and I was like this is so weird
and I was surprised the producers let
him have a dog on road rules obviously so
well remember it here's a reminder of
here's how these interaction went with
between you two on the on your mom's
house you had a Chihuahua a little dog
do you remember that little doggy you
had somebody must have lent me it
were you serious and I never had a
small animal like that I mean I've had a
lot of smaller animals but nothing
that you did have a Chihuahua and I
remember I was like he's not letting me
pet the dog because the dog was real
skittish and you're like don't know
don't don't pet this dog I've never had
that so that wasn't even me but that
wasn't oh my god I mean and I thought I
was going nuts because he kept denying
I thought gosh well maybe maybe I was
wrong and I was and then but then almost
immediately when the episode came out
this was sent to us yeah someone sent it
to me like and the and the hashtag was
believe women and that is that used to
be his profile and that's the dog that's
the dog I met in Mexico when we met
Theo in the cast so all I can say is that
Theo gate ends but Chihuahua gate just
started begins let Chihuahua gate began
let it let the conversation begin
so I don't know what's going on there I
would like to get to the bottom of that
of Chihuahua gate what's going on with
Chihuahua gate man I don't know let the
conversation begin
so bizarre all right well why is he
hiding that Chihuahua I don't know what
do you think happened there I don't know
dude speaking of wild shit you have got
to see this clip now I don't know how the
audio will translate but the video is
really something um this guy what is
bathing fully in a septic tank why
because he's a cool guy oh
look at him oh it's fetish
I'm gonna throw up tell the people what's
happening though I don't want to I don't
like it it's a guy wearing like a fetish
mask in the fetish plastic outfit and
he's in a pool of kaka and peepees and
he's bathing it and he's rubbing his
eyes because the eye holes are open
he's like bathing in kaka I mean in in huge
I can't I cannot a huge pool of diarrhea
and shit piss vomit everything he's just
rubbing it on his face and he's got the
eyeballs cut out of that mask so the
that's going in is he's got a pink eye
for sure at the least not hepatitis
thank you for sharing this needs to be on
oh oh what is that probably like a
tampon or I mean it's Tom that's a great
video thanks
that's pretty wild you sent this to me yeah
four years that I've worked with you yeah
this was the only time I came close to
puking and prepping something for the
show legit had a very difficult time
and he looks just made no one in this
room was able to look at the screen
traumatized he was switching everything
blind traumatized I don't know why but
nothing makes me happier than hearing
that you know I mean you've got see I
like weirdos you like traumatizing
people
you enjoy misery yeah can we do one thing
before we go in the mid-roll yeah
somebody made online is it mr.
clavicles yeah yeah yeah fantastic
montage of all the highlights from your
mom's house all over the years like a few
of great yeah I just wanted to share I
I thought it was just so funny it was cool
and he used a song from your mom's house
as the bed of music yeah and it's a
tribute to to Theo our dog yeah
are you
please give me cock come here little
tickle you
ting-tong ting-tong
oh my god
fuck this shit
fuck diamonds in the crevice the
vegan for china all for you it gets bigger
when I pull
this is just who I am
fuck your wife just like the gays
mother fuck this shit
stupid white bitch
I don't like
that baby man
you want to fuck with my
on his truth yes I would really like
that
hi america it's hard fucking poor
and that's fucking
oh shit man
here and then he tickles
fucking dogs
huh
our dad had taught us not to be ashamed
of our white niggers
OMG
you are completely retarded
hey man that was great
wow
that was great
what a beautiful montage of our work
mr underscore clavicles
thanks for making that
wow
that was really great
we're doing the lord's work on this show
go ahead
gotta tell you
what's up with the tour
July 23rd
I'm in Rochester Minnesota
yeah where the mayo clinic is
oh
I'm at that home set at county fair
excited
Chad Daniels
and josh potter
on the show with me
the next day
24th I'm in appleton wisconsin
25th rockford illinois
26 peoria
27th cedar rapids
and 28th evansville
it's a bus week
what what
shortly thereafter
wilkesbury pa
terry town
albany foxwoods
hampton beach
and burlington
and then I go to canadia
that's the country to the north of us
and up there
I will hit london
two shows in toronto
two in winnipeg
two in vancouver
and calgary calgary sold out
that is uh august 18th
get your tickets to those
and all the other days coming up
doing europe
hitting a bunch of cities in europe
tomcigura.com slash tour
and I recently added a show in
what is it grand rapids
so
come holler at your boy
tomcigura.com slash tour
jean
now while you're in canada
will you be eating the mcdonald's
tomato mozzarella chicken sandwich
maybe
maybe if they uh
i mean mcdonald's does have a great menu up there
yeah
yeah it's a canadian favorite
okay my tour uh august 2nd and 3rd
salt lake city utah
september 5th
milwaukee
september 6 chicago
september 7th boston
october 3rd through 5th
nashville
november 22nd
seattle and the 23rd portland
horrigan
go to christina p online for tickets
also if you haven't seen
my two netflix specials
please check out the degenerates
it's a half hour
and my our mother inferior
oh and check out my new podcast
dropping july 8th
where my mom's at
a podcast by and for real moms only
that's what's up
all right
you ready to
I have whiz
let's do it
your mom's house will be right back
it is my great pleasure
to welcome our next guest
a hall of famer legitimately
a pioneer of hip hop
and an all around great guy
daryl dmc mcdonald's
thank you very much thank you
thank you for having me
this is wild man
appreciate it
I mean you know I was thinking back all
like I've loved hip hop my whole life
and um
my first two tapes
because I bought cassette tapes
when I when I was a kid that I
I purchased
where the fat boys
wow fat boys incredible
yeah man that was like
and like to to see that you're here
right now is isn't is incredible
and we're introducing our three-year-old
son to records
and run dmc was the first one of the
first ones we bought
oh the vinyl
the vinyl yeah we got
oh nice
oh that's awesome
you're so nice
yeah I know you're too nice
how are you so famous and so nice
yeah well I don't think I'm famous
yeah that's if you think you're famous
then you're not nice
if you don't think you're famous
you know it doesn't affect you
you know what I was thinking about today
like just as knowing that I was going
to see you here
I was like it actually like hit me like
oh yeah you didn't have
hip hop
to list like you created a genre
which is
I well I don't too much
we didn't really create it
but but I'm saying we are part of that
you elevated
we were what happened with us was
that we became the physical embodiment
the representatives of
hip hop
prior to us
what we were doing
and where it was going
yeah
and you know for me I never wanted to be
in show business
really
yes now run run saw hip hop grew up in
his living room
his brother Russell
before rap records was made
Russell was one of the promoters
that saw the DJs in the streets in New
York and was like wow
every time they play the park or the
block party
a thousand people shows up
yeah so Russell wasn't the only one
but he was one of the promoters that
said I'm gonna move this indoors
I'm gonna go rent the PL
give the PL his hundred dollars
pay the DJ a hundred dollars
and then charge the people who are
seeing it for free
yeah
five dollars to see it inside now
yeah
and put my name on the fly and call
myself rush productions
yeah
so run was seeing that in his living
room
Russell managed Curtis Blow
godfather hip hop
Jimmy Spicer who deigning
he did shows he worked with
Grandmaster Flash and all that
so run was a little kid
seeing that this was a business
right
so run was like I could get rich and
famous off this I could make money
I could get a mansion
rose Royce everything that you see run
doing now right yeah
he saw the hip hop was going to get him
that yeah
for me
hip hop was it was make believe
and what I mean by that was I was in
the comic books
I went to catholic school my whole life
right
you know I'm saying I love these
comic books I was one of those kids
that when that street like come on you
have your ass in this house
yeah that's similar with me
that was me so you know and you hear
to other kids outside playing like
eleven thirty at midnight
and it wasn't that old
their parents don't care about it
I was like they're lucky that they
could be out there
you know I'm saying I'm eight nine
and ten and the little five
your kid is outside at midnight
playing
yeah that's crazy
you know I'm saying so I had to find
things to do I went to catholic school
my whole life but so
my world was these comic books
you know I'm saying
I started with Batman
then I discovered Marvel
Stan Lee
Rustin peace he was a genius
he put the superheroes really in New
York
yeah
so what that did for me
it didn't make it make believe
anymore
right
it made it real
yeah
so my whole life prior to music
was Marvel comic books
Captain America the Hulk
Spider-Man the Avengers the whole nine
read collect draw
read collect draw
read collect draw
that's all I did
by me always reading comic books
made me a good reader in school
so I was a
honor roll student
which I'm very proud of to this day
yeah
always on the honor roll
it was
it's funny
there's still
torments me to this day
there was two girls
that I could never beat
Nadine Welch
and Deborah Hamilton
wow you stuck with me
but I was always the only guy up there
with them the smartest kids in the
schools
you know when
when I would get a minus
they would get a plus
yeah yeah
but I would get a B
they would get the A minus
could never defeat them
but
since I was always reading comic books
made me a good student
so that was my life
from kindergarten
to seventh grade
then in seventh grade
something crazy happened to me
this thing called hip hop
comes over the bridge from the Bronx
now I didn't know what it was
at first
at at the time by the way
are you a music fan
like do you like
no I can't
it's that's another funny question
I didn't have a music that was mine
because that was my mother
that
when I was a kid
my mother and father were still young
so
Marvin Gaye
Al Green
a reef of Franklin
Stevie Wonder
that's what's played at house
yeah black soul music in the 70s
60s and 70s
Motown
that was my mother and father's music
oh right that's not yours
I'm a kid
I don't care nothing about love and girls
girls are yucky
right how many comic books
yeah yeah
so for me
the music the only music then
I thought was me was
classic rock
so-called classic rock now
in folk rock
70s
the Beatles
the Stones
Harry Chapin
Joni Mitchell
Bob Dylan
or Jim Croci
you're getting into all this
cross me stills young and nasty
Zeppelin right because
soul music
and even at the time in the 70s disco
that was the adult
that was you know the grown-up things to do
yeah
as a kid I didn't have a
music
but when I heard rock
there was just something about the
rock drums was heavier
so you love that stuff
the guitars was going again
so rock music was like superheroes to me
holy shit
and then the folk music
was like social studies or history in school
because even though these dudes were big
rock stars
most of the music was about politics
you know
neo-young
cross me stills
nascent young
they were talking about the government
and women's right and silver
so the rock and the folk rock guys
was singing
in addition to singing
about sex and loves and drugs
they were singing about stuff that I could relate to
as a student
right
because Marvin Gaye
and in Al Green
and then they were said
I want to travel
give us get it
I don't want to know how I'm gonna do that
if you're up here
yeah
but you know when I heard
neo-young it was um
ten soldiers and nixons coming
it's fine
John Lennon sleeping naked
to protest the war
John Fogarty
fortunate son
so as a kid that's smart
oh you know
that got my attention
right
compared to you know
I didn't care none of my ABC
I care nothing about high heels
no true story
I care nothing about high heels
and afros and dashikis
no kid
nothing about that
which is something about the folk rock
that attracted me
so that's what I had
so here's what happened
um in seventh grade
this kid had a tape recorder
um cassette
remember the flat
not box
or boom box
right right
flat cassette tape recorders
yeah put it in front
we're in a five
remember those things
bam
yeah yeah yeah
this kid named
Billy Morris had one
and Billy was in eighth grade
so me and two other
my friends from
St. Pascal Baylor Elementary School
we was in the
schoolyard playing basketball
on a one rim
that the school
the catholic school had
because you gotta understand something
if you go to catholic school
you can't go to the public park
because you got a bag that says
st. Pascal baylor elementary
wear uniform
right
the public school kids
are going to get you
oh right
of course
so I got bully teased
and picked on
I got my
lunch money taken
till I got smart enough
to put it
in my sock under my foot
wow
so they couldn't hear it jingle
so they would know
check the ankles
yeah like yeah
exactly
so life was miserable with me
so we was in the park
playing on a one rim
that was in there for the
poor little catholic school kids
and Billy Morris in the eighth grade
he goes yo
come in
so
you know how you are
you know
nerdy geeky kids
act like you don't hear them
yo
then he hit you with the
I ain't gonna say it again
so now you know
you're in trouble
your ass is grass
so it's three of us
I was a smart kid
always thought
so I said
you know
and I'm not violent
I'm not in a gang
enough
I'm a nerdy catholic school kid
yeah a comic book kid
yeah
so I tell my two friends though
it's three of us
and one of him
if we try
we probably went and did nothing
but if he tries anything
we go and jump his ass
so we walk over to Billy
and Billy just says
he pulls his tape recorder
out his tote bag
and says
check this out
and he pushes plate
and the beat goes
doosh
dash
de goosh
de goosh
dash
goosh
goosh
dash
de goosh
and then the voice goes
when you mess around
in New York town
you go down
with the disco
chiba clown
you go down
you just keep the pep
in your step
you don't stop till you get on the
mountain top
and when you reach the top
you reach your peak
that's when you hear
Eddie Chiba speak
and it stopped
and it was all staticky
and stuff like that
we said do that again
he did it again
we stood in that
schoolyard for three hours
listening to
whatever that was
I didn't even know what it was
but it just felt so good
yeah
that's what I'm telling you
yeah
not to
I just
I'm so excited
because that's the first time
I heard run DMC
when I lived in this apartment
complex
and it was by the basketball courts
and the older kids
had the cassette tape do
it was older than me
and they were listening
to run DMC
and it was like
you be ill in
I'm like what the
fuck is this man
exactly
Ryan it blew your mind
and it was just
it was just
my DNA
structure
every molecular
it's crazy
it was just me
and then I just hit Billy
with the yo
can I hold that
motherfucking no
Gary Mcdonald
you know I'm saying this
and then I was like
yo Billy man
you can have my mother
I'll give you the keys
to my father's car
you can take over
he was like
holy shit
he was like
ew
what now
so but he saw that
I really wanted it
so it was a Friday afternoon
back in school Monday
over the weekend
Billy let me hold this day
wow
so I just went home
I listened to that
from Friday night
all the way till Sunday
I think it was about
8 30 when I fell asleep
then I woke up
and the next day
was back in school
I gave it back to Billy
and then I paid no attention to it
because
that little thing
it was just that experience
I didn't know what it was
but for Friday night
all the way to Sunday
gave it back to Billy
it was gone
but because of that tape
now I notice
summertime
because of the tape
I started to notice
oh that's what they do
at the block parties in the park
the DJs would come
the thing that was on the tape
see I was still a kid though
right right
I'm riding my bike
my skateboard
my comic books
I didn't care about the loud music
the music was so loud
but I'm a kid
life is adventurous
I don't care about this
but because of the tape
now I'm noticing the DJs
DJ in the park
and stuff like that
so that was
my introduction to hip hop
still didn't give a shit about it
it was my comic books
and Bruce Lee movies
and Adam's family
and I dream of Jeannie
because we used to watch
I Dream of Jeannie
to get our sexual fantasies
I'm sure
I'm a farmer
I used to use the added lessons
looking at that
but the thing that got me
to partake in hip hop was
now the DJs
are doing the parks
in the block parties
so now the older kids
all want to be like the DJs
in the neighborhood now
right
so Booby Long
on Anthony Wallace
was the first two
older kids in my neighborhood
to get turntables
and stuff like that
so my brother
who wrote
ran with Booby and them
wanted to get turntables
so we had a problem
he had a problem
we didn't sell weed
so we had no money
see the kids
and sold drugs
got everything
sneakers and Adidas
and Pumas
and bikes and
and gazelles
and Adidas
suits the kids
and didn't sell drugs
if you didn't sell drugs
or do stick ups
or rob houses
you broke
yeah
and I'm saying
so my brother
he had to get turntables
like Booby and Anthony
so he comes up with this idea
yo Darryl come here
come here little bro
we're gonna do a comic book sale
so we could get enough money
to get two turntables in a mixer
and I'm like okay cool
so we do a comic book sale
and check this
this was why the story is
significant
so we make our own flyers
with the loose leaf paper
to make damn news
brothers are doing a comic book sale
you know what I'm saying
so the doorbell's ringing
we pulling in some money
now you know nine dollars
ten dollars
we just need
we needed a $40 mixer
and we needed a $30 turntable
to go with
the high-five stereo set
that our parents already had
right
so the doorbell was ringing
kids from all over the neighborhood
was coming
the doorbell rings
are opening is Joseph Simmons
the kid from the other class
and minister in Harold
right
and that's runs
he turned
no run is Joseph
oh okay right
but he has another brother
besides
Russell Simmons
and then another brother
yeah but this
that wasn't even in the Elers yet
Joseph comes buy comic books
and go home
it's significant
because
we reunite later
so me and my brother
we get the two turntables
and we get the mixer
so now we got our own set
in the basement
you know what I'm saying
it wasn't as expensive
as the dude who said
was selling weed
they had the
the quanters
and the techniques
and stuff like that
we had some
bullshit
fake would be
be a source
but we was able to do the hip hop thing
so my brother
brings home rappers delight
yeah man
now the thing that's in the streets
is on record now
y'all remember
rappers like this
yeah of course
light blue
with the rainbow on it
oh what the hell is that
hip hop to heaven
it was a long ass record too
so long
like fucking 15 minutes
yeah real long
so me being a smart kid
and I'm saying
because I got an imagination
of comic books
and I'm
you know I'm a good student
because I'm reading the comic books
I listen to rappers
to like two or three times
and the only reason
I cared about it was
because of the
Superman run
he's the man with the S on his chest
can you fly all through the night
are you able to rock a party
to the early night
I can satisfy you with his
look he can satisfy you
with his little worm
but I can bust you out
with my super spin
so oh shoot
there's a guy
talk I didn't know his rap
I was like
there's a guy talking about
Superman
so that made it cool
so I learned rappers
like from beginning to end
so now in a neighborhood
that creates a problem
because now if it's not on the radio
if it's not a block party
all the bully kids
Darrell come over here motherfucker
sing rappers to life
I had to do all the way to the end
because I knew how to do it
oh my gosh
imagine me learning rappers to
like I'm doing it for the whole
neighborhood
you're doing it
for that whole summer
12 minutes at a time
but you're also practicing
I'm learning there
but I'm not knowing
I'm thinking I want to go home
motherfucker you can't
leave till you finish
but what was it in you
that wanted to memorize
rappers like story telling
story telling
because it's
by the way
it's an opus
that is not
it's story telling
when you said
joseph I thought you were talking
about Danny
Danny's the artist
that's the other brother
that's what I thought when you said it
no joseph Simmons
yeah
me and run wasn't friends
when we was little
so you didn't
he was just
we went to the same school
he was always in the other class
you're in the same school
he's in the other
I was always in the smart class
he was in
he was in
he was always in
in our catholic school
was one one and one two
the two class
one one one two
two one two two
all the way up to eighth grade
I was always in the two classes
because I was in the morning
he bought when he buys those comic books
he just
buys them and buys them
and then how long until
you guys
like from that point
till you guys
hook up
yeah
that was
that was
two years
yeah
rappers the light came out in 79
so that went down
I got rappers the light
and then
I heard
on a cassette tape
a live performance
of this DJ
called Grandmaster Flash
and he was taking
Sheik's Good Time song
all right
good times
boom boom
ba da ba dum
boom boom boom
good times
boom boom
ba da ba dum boom
and he kept making it go
good times
so you gotta imagine
what the fuck
how the hell is he
throwing it
then he said
good time
good time
go
how the hell is he making
then he said
then he broke it down a good
good good
he made it go good good
how the hell is he doing it
oh that's
my brother's like
that's the quits mix thing
so now I got turntables
I ran down in the basement
I'm trying to
do what
flat
and I get it
you get it
I do
so now
in my mind
I become
because he was Grandmaster Flash
I become
Grandmaster Get High
they're suggesting
my world and my basement
because you don't need
reef or alcohol
because my music will intoxicate you
so that's what I mean
it was make believe
the same way I used to
pretend
I put my favorite blanking on
and run through the house
I'm Batman
I'm Superman
I was just pretending
to be that
I don't do this
right
though rappers the light
does it
flash and I'm do it
so then my brother
brings home
this red
because remember
rappers the light
was light blue
with the rainbow on it
it's very attractive
when you look at the
sugar hill logo
right
then my brother comes home
it's just this
bland red labeled record
that said enjoy records
in order it said
Grandmaster Flash
oh that's the guy from the tape thing
and the fur is five
I was like
what the hell is that about
so we put the needle on it
now remember
we talked about
rappers the light
was three guys
rapping long
one guy rapper hour
next guy rapper hour
other guy rapper hour
other guy rapper another hour
and then it's over
but this record
this is what changed my life
I'm Grandmaster Get High
first pretending
in my basement
I put the needle on this record
rappers the light
opened up like it
it was a hip hop
which was blew your mind
when you heard that
because we never heard this
but this record
I put the needle on this
it's a Grandmaster Flash
in the first five
you know with the dust
this shit said
it was a party night
everybody was breaking
the house was screaming
and the bass was shaking
and it won't be long
till everybody knowing
that flash is on the B box going
and I'm like what the fuck
what the shit
and then it goes
and shana na
and then the voice goes
Italian, Caucasian, Japanese
Spanish, Indian, Negro,
Vietnamese,
M.C.
Disjakejo
fly kids for the young ladies
and then the beat drops
and they say introducing the crew
you gotta see to believe
and then five different voices
we're one, two, three, four
five MCs
one voice said
I'm Melly Mel
and I rock it so well
and then the second dude said
and I'm Mr. Ness
because I rock the best
and then the third dude said
Raheem
and all the ladies dreaming
and then the fourth dude said
cowboy and I make it jump for joy
and then the fifth dude said
Creole
and then the other fourth dude said
solid gold
kid Creole
playing the role dig this
where the fur is five
plus grandmaster flash
giving you a blast
a show enough class
so to prove to you
all that was second to none
we're gonna make five MCs
sound like one
give me a pin
that's me running through the house
mommy, mommy
give me a
I gotta do that
and I just sat down
and started writing rhymes
that day I became easy D
because my name is Darrell
it starts with a D
but it's easy for me to do this
easy D
so I just started writing rhymes
easy D is like
hey by the way
that's a pretty
that's a good name
I like it
it's really good
yeah it's a really good name
so I became grandmaster
get high
and easy D
all in one
right so here's where run comes in
in eighth grade
we're in eighth grade now
remember the one rim in the school
yeah
so
in eighth grade
out of nowhere
I mean I made it from Kindergarten
all the way to eighth grade
without any new students
coming to the school
all of a sudden in eighth grade
this guy
David McEachin
I'll never forget
this new student comes
he's seven feet tall
he probably wasn't that tall
but he was like tall
and in Jabbar
but he was
but he wasn't
but he was to us
right
he dumps on the one rim
in the schoolyard
and he breaks it
whoa
so we
oh that was incredible
no we cry
we can't go to the park
now but hold on behold
I got the best parents ever
my father put a basketball rim in my
in my backyard
so now the kids
usually 10, 11, 12 kids
would come to my backyard
to play basketball after school
one particular day
Joseph Simmons comes along
with his basketball
holding his curly hair
we play basketball
and then usually
when we played basketball in the backyard
I would go and get the Dixie cups
remember Dixie cups
yeah
and I get the pitcher water
because the rule was
when there's no adults home
what's the rule
you can't have no company
right
so this particular day
because usually I bring the water
I'll give the kids in the back
and go home
just particularly
it was just Joe
I let him in the house
to get the water
it was 3 30
my parents don't get home before
come on in and get the water
so when he comes in
he sees me and my brother's turntables
and he goes
yo do you do that
and I go no
because it's my secret
he's supposed to know that
yeah
and then he goes
yo my brother's Russell Simmons
you ever see the rush flyers
that's up on the telephone poles
and I'm like yeah I see that
well my brother he works with flash
and this
so now it's becoming interesting
so he's telling me about
when rum was 12 years old
when it was in school
during the summertime
Russell would allow run to go
rap and play and DJ
on a Curtis Blow show
run was the son of Curtis Blow
12 years old Curtis Blow would go
I'm gonna break my disco son DJ run out here
and he's gonna put on a show for you
come on in and run would come out at 12 years old
say a rum and DJ's cutest thing in the world
01:18:33,060 --> 01:18:34,420
because you remember
if you remember hip-hop
hip-hop was a hybrid of disco
right
the early the fat boys
before they were the fat boys
was the disco three
really I didn't know
yeah if you listen to
they even had disco style
yeah just in there
I'm the disco man
yeah yeah
well Blondie too
does a rap on whatever
the punk rockers
yes
and the hip-hopers took over the discos
after the discos
went out of business
I woke up one day
and all over the world
there was this saying
disco sucks
yeah
yeah
and it died that day
but another man's trash
is a trash isn't
one man's trash is another man's trash
they threw away all that music
and the DJ's hopped it up
because it was always baselines
for the rappers and the MCs to say on
so rum was
Curtis Blow's disco son
he's telling me all of that
so what we would do is
he would come to my house
we get out of school
two ten
we'd get to my house
it was five minute walk by two fifteen
play basketball until three fifteen
and then from three fifteen
took quarter to four
I would let him in the house
and we'd go in the basement and DJ
so I taught run how to do the flash
quit he knew how to DJ
but he didn't know how to do the flash
hey
right
so I told him
and one plain and simple here's where it all began
he picks up my school books
who I was writing my rhymes at
and he was like oh Darryl
you wrote all of this
and I was like
yeah it's like a hobby
and just
was like oh this is really good
and then he looks at me
this is an eighth grade
and he goes
when my brother Russell
lets me make a record
I'm putting you in my group
so I just look at him
it was like a formal language
I was like what the fuck
did you just say to me
what the fuck
and went in one in there out there
because I don't do
that
it was just a thought
right
so ninth grade
we graduated from
St. Pascal Balon
run
and soon to be out DJ later
Jason Marzell
Jam Master J
they went to Andrew Jackson
High School
in Queens
five minute walk
from where we lived at
I took three trains
and two buses to travel
from Queens
all the way to Harlem
to go to an all boys
Catholic High School
called Rice High School
124th Street
and Lenox Avenue
and in the heart of Harlem
so ninth grade
tenth grade
eleventh grade
twelfth grade
I'm a good student
fine colors
I sent out my resume
I get accepted
to St. John's University
I come home
I pick the letter up
and says you were proud to inform
you have been accepted
to prestigious St. John's University
so the first thing I did
before I even ran
until my mother was ran
in the basement
wrote a rhyme about it
I'm DMC
in the place to be
I'm going to St. John's University
since Kenny Garner
not quite the knowledge
at the 12th grade
and we're straight to college
so I wrote the rhyme
so that was June of 82
I was the class of 82
graduated June of 82
in August of 82
the phone rings
it's Joe
yo remember four years ago
when I said
if I make a record
I'm putting you in the group
yeah
grab your rhyme books
we're going to studio
to make a record
so we went to the studio
and we made this like that
it's like that
and that's the way it is
that's the jam
and we made sucker MCs
what
and that's how I got in
so even then
I still like Joe knew
what he was doing
Russell's his brother
yeah
Curtis
blow Joe's like
yo we going to be famous
I'm going to die myself records
and I'm going to do the music thing
to me
being in the studio
and this is how crazy I am
now to this day
when I first went
because remember
I was just doing it in my basement
so when Run took me
they took me to Green Street
recording studio
on Green Street
right off a house
then in the city
and we go down in the studio
and I'm seeing all of the board
and all the electronics
and stuff like that
I start pretending
I shrunk down
and I'm inside of the boombox
right
you know I'm here yet
the imagination
so I'm in there
I go in and I put my rhymes down
and Russell takes the record
shops it
everybody turns us down
but we end up on this little label
called profile records
wait no hold on
back up
okay
so how do you get to
on this dorky kid in my basement
I go to record
and it you know what I mean like you
and then it's like that
and that's the way
like how the fuck
do you guys come up with that
when Joe when Joe put me in the group
Joe Joe he saw
okay this guy
he saw okay this guy
writes really good rhymes
he got all of these
fucking comic books
so he must have an imagination
yeah
and he get good grades
so he's smart
he's not gonna fuck off
so originally Run was right
Run was gonna be a solo artist
but he saw that I had something
that could assist with his journey
so the way that Jay comes into this
that wasn't until after we made
it's like that circumstance
okay but they wasn't even
they know each other though right
yeah Run and Jay
you know each other from playing
basketball in the parks
and Run would go get on the mic
at the block party
okay
you know I knew rappers the light
yeah
back and forth
my cadence and him
I'm not getting on a mic
nobody's seen me do that
you know what I'm saying
because it was my world
you're kind of insecure about it at
first yeah
but no not even that
it's my world
it's my thing
yeah yeah
you know what I'm saying
you're right
all the rhymes that you heard
since I've been in them
wasn't for y'all here
right this is for me
you only got to hear
because Run made me
put him on a damn record
he for me
yeah
you know what I'm saying
so
um um um Jay didn't come till later
so we we did this like that
we did circumseize and
um we put the we get a record deal
so Russell goes crazy
okay y'all you know
we got a record deal on profile
record the record comes out
I was actually in my
I was in my second semester
at St. John's University
it's crazy
in August we went to make the demo
now to me it's done
no we made the demo
I'm gonna shop it
the only goal back then
was to get the record played
on Mr. Magic or Red Alert
I remember
kids
I blow kids mind
I speak at a lot of middle schools
and high schools
I said y'all don't understand
some hip hop was only
on the radio Friday
and Saturday night
yeah
and LA had it a little better
than us
because y'all had K-Day
y'all had an all hip hop
we didn't have New York
well we didn't have that
that's wild to think about
the New York
where it came from
and we didn't have it
it was only Friday and Saturday nights
so the goal was to get Mr. Magic
or Red Alert to play the record
so that happened for us
you know what I'm saying
and you think at this point
when that's played
are you like
well that was a fun thing to do
done
on with my life
I'm successful
because Mr. Magic played me
I'm in school
now I'm in St. John's University
I pick business management
because
not because
I wanted to be business management
my best friend growing up
was this guy named Douglas Hayes
we call him
if you listen to our rock box song
the run DMC rock box song
and we go butter love now
they called him butter
because he was a fat black kid
that could play basketball
really really really good
butter came up along with Mark Jackson
infamous Mark Jackson from the Knicks
St. John's University
Chris Mullin
so people would come to the parks
to see Mark play and score 40
but they because Mark was JV
junior varsity
you know Doug was varsity
people wait to see butter score 50
so butter was my best friend
from kindergarten
all the way up
till we got to college
so butter was the guy that told me
pick business management
and pick St. John's
okay
you do what he said
I do whatever the butter said
run down a block naked
okay
like he was just
really one of my best friend ever
and stuff
so I get St. John's University
I'm starting to realize
oh man
this is crazy because
it's saying like school
it's not like high school why
in college nobody helps you
yeah
I was alone on the campus at St. John's University
scared to death the first thing I did
I ran to the payphone
called butter up
yo Doug
it's the first day of school where you at
I'm sweet man
I ain't got no classes today man
matter of fact I ain't got no classes with your ass click
so I'm scared to death
yeah
I don't like accounting
I don't like bookkeeping
I'm like nothing that has to do with
business management
so I go
damn I gotta change my major
my mother gonna hate my ass
you know what I'm saying
because my thing was
all I can do is draw
I didn't even think about music
I didn't say I'm a great writer
all I can
what can you do Daryl
I can draw
comic books and cartoons really good
so I was gonna change my major
to anything that had to do with art
graphic design
architecture
oh parents don't like that
oh no
no but here's the worst thing
and if I don't like that
I'm dropping out of school
and I'm gonna just draw the funnies
in the local newspaper
oh my god
so that's where I was at
I come home and I'm like hey mom
remember that day in August
I came home two in the morning
because when we
when I went to record
it's like that in circumcision
I didn't tell my parents
I came home two in the morning
and there was like
where was your ass at
I was there
because we wouldn't even go
in my basement at Joe's Attic
I was at Joe's Attic
don't you do that again
motherfucker
and you come you know what I'm saying
you call you pull over
okay who you with
you pull over
go to the payphone and let us know
where you at
when I made my record
I didn't tell my parents
where I was at
so now I'm coming home mom
um remember that night
no first I said
um I'm gonna change my major
I don't want to do business management
so my father resting
pizza was like oh
really so what do you want to do
my mother she started doing this
so I'm saying you know
um I don't like accounting
and bookkeeping and stuff like that
I'm thinking of changing
the graphic art or
you know maybe um
um architecture
so you know yeah that's
you know architecture is real good
my mom my mother was a motherfucker
and then I hit away
and if that don't work
I'm gonna just drop out of school
and and draw the comics
in the local newspaper
you told them
yeah and my mother raised hell
like right now I'm scared of
yeah my mom
calm down woman dissonant
move get your ass back up
so I go upstairs and I'm sitting
and like oh
shit I'm fucking up dissonant
the phone rings again
it's Joe again
yo Russell got us a deal
we on profile records
dissonant boom bang
the record's not only playing
on red alert and Mr. Magic
is playing across the country
pack your bag
we're going on tour to do shows
and he hangs up
and I'm sitting here
bananas
going to do fucking
what the fuck is he talking
I'm trying to figure my life out
I'm a school kid dissonant
and then I realized
huh
Joe won't kill me
because I ain't even
to go my parents this
so Joe's calling every day
yo we going on the tour
we got shows coming in North Carolina
and dissonant
I still ain't tell my parents
and I'm like fuck it
you know
you hold out
remember when you was little
you would never tell the thing
that you should have just
got it over with
just get it over with
and I've been here
I waited eight days
and I go down
and tell my mother
y'all know that
remember the thing I used to do
in the basement
yeah
and we used to take all your records
and scratch them up
and you see them at
yeah well now
you know that record
rappers are like yeah
my father's like yeah
they play that out my job
all it because my father worked
for transit
all the young people was playing
sure
my mother ain't no nothing
about this
well I have one of those
the name of the group is
Run DMC
and we have a hip hop record
and this and that
yeah I heard a red alert
motherfucking when
my mom start cursing this
and that boom boom bang song
run back upstairs
and I'm sent in
so Joe calls
this what saved me
yo we got our first show
booked in North Carolina
they paying us $1500
click
so I get an idea
all right let me go try this
I go downstairs
and say mom here's the deal
our first show's for $1500
Run said that Russell's gonna
book us some more shows
here's the deal
whatever money
now I'm not thinking career
right
whatever money
I make this summer
from doing the performances
for my records
I'll use my own money
to pay for my own tuition
at school
oh you can go there
going the road
hey dad
my whole attitude changed
you know what I'm saying
because now she can get
a pocket books
and stuff like that
so that was the whole
genesis of me being
put into the
how did that
first tour go
was it like enough
for you like we can keep doing it
or you I mean
no
we was tearing shit up
really
nobody's never seen
the lack of us
because you gotta understand
like you said
and on an
early hip hop
was based on disco
yeah
you know the early
the early hip hop was
you gotta give them soup
like Run DMC
went out to pioneers
the real pioneers
is everybody who did it
before rappers
the light was even recorded
right
so when they did stop
make when they came in
to show business them
the first rappers
had no rappers to look up to
but parliament funkadelic
and the Rolling Stones
so that's where their attire came
and all the disco records
Donna Summer
and the tramps
and the Commodores
and all
so their idols
in the show business world
was dumb
so that's who they were
trying to emulate
when me and Run came along
we didn't dress up
we dressed like
we dressed when we were kids
right
we wore the D to suit
the break dancers
yeah
so when the world saw us
that was new
yeah
and not only that
we didn't make disco records
right
we had beats
boosh
da boosh
dat boosh
boosh
dat da boosh
unemployment at a record
ha
we wasn't on no hibbity hop
to shaft dance
and shake the hand
we're gonna disco me
we wasn't doing that shit
yeah
we was doing some other people
in the world
trying to make it mine
you know what I'm saying
no
I did that in 1986
we was on
two years ago
a friend of mine
asked me to say like
we had a whole different
shit but it was a
whoa
so
it just took off man
now
because I see you were in the
aerosmith shirt today
yes
so when walked this way
I I feel like
we had no idea who they were
you had no idea who they were
really
even you
because you said you like
you know
didn't know
I did not know
I knew the Rolling Stones
I knew Led Zeppelin
but was the
oh there is
here's how I knew
aerosmith
when the DJs would play
the break beats
James Brown was always getting
played
because he always had
a funky drummer break for the
MC to say their rap one
disco
chic
good toms
all the disco records
always had a bass line
heartbeat
boom
boom
boom
you know
all there was always a bass line
jazz records
always had a break
but those rock records
also had a break
where it was just drums
or drums and guitar
prior
this is 83
82
83
84
85
before we even thought of doing
walk this way over
we didn't know
we just knew
get the album
cover with the toys on it
and play number four
that's what you would say
that's what
the one that goes
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well that's not even ever
Toys in the Attic was the album
Toys in the Attic's number four
um um um
Led Zeppelins
um
when the levy breaks
mm-hmm
uh Russia's Tom Sawyer
Sharon's
Rockin' in the Pocket
he would play these
and we would rap over them
oh my god
so that's how
rap rock started
in the Bronx
it's fun
yeah
Melly Mel
Kumo D
all of your old school rappers
they're the ones that gave us
the blueprint
what we did that was
genius was
we started doing it on records
mm-hmm
Melly Mel
then you could go to
you could punch in
you could go to
YouTube right now
listeners and punch in
Flash
Mel
in Scorp
Kill It 1978
in a live performance
of Melly Mel
in Scorpio
rhyming over
Walk This Way
really?
78
yeah
wow
so that's where we got it
what we did that was
genius we started doing it on records
yeah
so we did Rockbox
right
because Walk This Way
isn't the first
rock-rap record
it's a tongue twister
Walk This Way
isn't the first rock-rap record
the first rock-rap record
is Rockbox
which was the first rap video
on MTV
well really?
yeah yeah
1984
holy shit
by us putting the rock guitars on it
it got us on MTV
and that's when
and when it when
when we took it into every living room
that had MTV
that was the catalyst
that brought about
the 80s 90s
the craziness
because once you could see you guys
on MTV
and see the style
MTV was significant in the success of hip-hop
and that video
is significant too
in that
it really got so much exposure right
it elevated everything else
that you guys were doing too
well yeah
well 1984
we did Rockbox
which was a rock track
where me and Wrendyce Rhyman
about how good we are
then check this out
1985
and then we did a video
for Rockbox
with Professor Irwin Corey
opening it up
giving a dialogue
remember Professor Irwin Corey
from the movie Car Wash
he was a guy with the hits
remember the Car Wash
yeah
the Mad Bomber was real
unloosen in the nation
and then he came in
and he fit the description
so Car
Professor Irwin Corey
was a comedian actor
famous throughout the 60s, 70s
whatever
whatever
so that was Rockbox 84
that got hip-hop on MTV
in everybody's living room
across the nation
1985
we did a song called King of Rock
with Larry Bud Melman
from the David Letterman show
as the guard in front of the
Rock World Hall of Fame Museum
denying us entry in here
right
prophesying
because there's a big issue
with hip-hop going in
and in the Rock World Hall of Fame now
1985
the Rock World Hall of Fame
that didn't even exist
and it's such a bold way
to start the song too
I'm the King of Rock
there is none higher
sucker MCs
should call me sire
to burn my kingdom
you must use fire
and I won't stop rocking till
I retire
that's just saying
we don't give a fuck
about what you're saying
we're here becoming
yeah
it's such a fucking punch
in the face
so we did King of Rock 85
then in 86
we was going to remake
Toys in the Attic number four
and at that time
Rick Rubin
shout out to Rick Rubin
yeah, Rick Rubin
he was our producer at the time
so we was going to sample it
but Rick goes no
you should do it
over the way the band
originally did it
jam ass to J rest in peace
yo
that's a great idea
me and run whole the fuck up
slow down
you're taking this rock rap thing
too far
because rock rap to us was rock beat
with me and run
talking about how good we are
and I still remember my lyrics
we was going to sample it
keep to be going
guitars
be going
loop it
and I was going to go
because we started in 83
so my rap was
I'm DMC in the place to be
been rhyming on a mic since 83
I'm the best MC in history
and there will never be an MC
better than me
and then run was supposed to go
and you know
DJ run
run DMC style
I'm DJ run
and I'm number one
here to get it done
and have some fun
let the party be gone
with all of that
that's how it was supposed to go
Rick and Russell
I mean Rick and Jay
nah nah
y'all got to learn
number fucking four
it takes the record off the turntable
gives us one of those
the yellow notepad
and a big ballpoint pin
go in the basement
put the needle on the record
and let it play
the reason why that's significant is
the DJs never let the whole song
play
right
as soon as the guitar
da da da da da da da da
right when the guy's singing
back to the front of the record
right
so we go in the basement
I put the needle on the record
we sitting there with the notepad
da da da da da da da da da
waiting never heard
we don't know what the fuck's gonna happen
yeah
da da da da da da da da da
then you hear his T
backstroke level
in the hot and you have to cover
next minute we on the phone
oh hell no
this is hillbilly gibberish
this is country bumpkin mountain
fucking music
this is a long head
like
no protest
no they screaming at us
we screaming back at them
screaming at them
screaming back at them
for the longest
so reluctantly
we get a call a week later
and jay goes yo rick
and went to boston
and brought arrow smith to group
that made number four
to the fucking studio
made number four
so y'all gotta come
yo joe d
you're gonna fucking come
and you're gonna make this record
so they forced us to make
and you're still walking in the studio
that day
like this is some bullshit
yeah we went in there
there's a demo
there's a demo online
of the original demo
the original demo run
took the whole first verse
i took the whole second verse
give steed a third
when we out of here
they didn't know
the version that you're here
they literally chained us to the studio
and said y'all will never leave
until you make the song
a perfect song
really
the version
and hold on after that
even after me and run recorded it
we thought we had power
it was russell and lear cohen
and the record company
and our publicists
and everybody from our record label
and they all happy
we said y'all can be happy
as y'all want
true story go
y'all better never put
to shred it out
you say that
you could put it on album
but you're never
you're better never put
to shred it out
and the moral to that story is
always be open to try something new
because not only will it change
your life it could change the world
yeah yeah
because they released the record
then we did the phenomenal video
directed to john small
that was a
that's a like at the time too
that video it's
it's great because
for people who haven't seen it
obviously you can look it up
but like you guys are on opposing sides
of a wall right
and then he breaks through
and steven takes the mic stand
and knocks the wall
that was separating
that rock
people say yo
when steven teller did that in the video
that didn't just happen in the video
happened in the world
yeah
it's separate
bro rock and rap together
which was separate
black people and white people together
did a lot
did you find out like
was it obvious
was that was he reluctant
when they you know showed
was he like excited to do it
or was he like the fuck are we doing
well no no no
they um
steven teller angel perry
were very very um
courteous
they were very humble
you know at that time
they was
when walked this way dropped
remember they dropped that album
with dude looks like a
yeah yeah
all that they
they were bad as hell
but because of prior circumstances
nobody cared
right
like my joke is
they could have made a record with god
yeah
like arrow smith has a soul nope
we don't care it's bullshit
yeah
but when we call
rick calls hey arrow smith
you know the secretary picks up
hey my name is rick rubin
i'm producing rendy mc
i know you know who rendy mc is
yeah we heard of them guys
but they're doing another song
and man they're going to do
walk this way over
well the guys do it
hold on
hey guys some guy named rick rubin
is on the phone saying
he wants to do rendy mc
y'all guys want to do it
and at that point
steven joe was like
what do we got to lose
yeah
so they came to new york
did the record
came back and did the video
they were very very
involved in the
making of the record
we didn't know where it was going to go
of course
but they were humble
they showed up in person
how you know what you
mentioned earlier
is that uh you did
you're doing songs
you and ron are doing songs
about like how nice you are
like how good we are
and don't you feel like
or may i'm wrong in this
but like that that whole
lane of mc
like that being a thing
was huge
and you don't really hear
those songs anymore
like no nobody
about skills
they don't wrap about skills
they don't wrap about goodness
they don't wrap about honesty
it's and that's not just the music
here in america
they use negativity
and disrespect as a form of power
right so everything that we created
hip hop
sodies
kids
should not have to be
it's being celebrated now
yeah
and what i mean by that was
there was deaf destruction
and darkness
in the bronx
the bronx was burning
you know i'm saying
yeah
i lived in queens
it was a little safer
where i lived
i used to have to leave my block
and walk up to the main strip
to see the pimp's whole
pints
drug pictures
and the prostitutes
the bronx was a war zone
heroin
it was burning
but these young boys and girls
who lived in hell
were making such inspiration
they were telling us
go to school
they were gang bangers
and drug dealers saying
not the gang bang
and not to sell drugs
so for me that blew my mind
cool modi
was in a group called
the treacherous three
and at the time
it was modi
meli mel
they made the message
africa
bambana
zulu nation
made planet rock
yeah our lives are shit
but we have a vision
that there could be a world
where everybody's together
and we're not fighting
and everybody's eating
that's a big vision to have
so that was impressive to me
I thought I was all
mr smarty pants
catholic school kids straight A's
these kids had nothing
and still had the same things
that I had
yeah
so when I started making my records
one of the things that I wanted to
make the world understand
even in the dirt poor ghetto
there's goodness
it's the good things
that are the most powerful
like when I came along
my first rhyme was about me
going to saint john's universal
yeah yeah
that's crazy that's your first
rhyme
right because hip hop is about
keeping it real
yeah yeah
that's what you were doing right
now I don't sell drugs
I ain't gonna rhyme about that
I could have wrote about
so I could have put on a gang signs
and all that shit
and in front of my way through
but I was like
let me rhyme about what I wanted to be
so when I did that
the kids that were selling drugs
and then gangs
when my record dropped
and this was the outfit
this is just radio playing
Friday and Saturday night
when my record dropped
the kids in my neighborhood came to me
down how the hell
do you rap and hip hop
for the streets
and you go to saint john's university
so now I'm able to give dialogue with them
yeah I went to capture school
my whole life
I was a straight A student
just in that
and they're like man
you got a big ass gold chain
and you got a Mercedes Benz
you got naditas and shit like that
so that inspired some of the
dudes actually told me
OD man
I went and got a GED
just because you said it
that's cool
and with the GED
I was able to take courses
at the community college
wow
and now I'm a doctor
I'm a lawyer
I'm a journalist
I'm a playwright
now
we knew that
positivity was getting started
that's so true
and because I think that was also
the appeal to run DMC
is that
it was like
we did a curse
yeah I found you
I was a fifth grader
I think
when I discovered you guys
and I could listen to the music
and it wasn't like
you know
and our attitude was hard as hell
oh man
that's the thing too
especially
I could speak for like
when you're a young boy
you're really drawn
there's a part of you
that wants to be aggressive
yeah
and you want to be tough
but like you know
NWA's like
busting nuts and killing bitches
fuck the bitches you
but they're hoes
and like
fucking hoes
too short
shooting and killing and shit
like that
which is cool
they don't
look I like that too
but the cool thing was like
like beast to the brim
you know
that is such an aggressive record
and it feels
I don't know
there's something like
visceral
that you feel powerful
Iced tea always said
we took um
we made positivity gangster
that's a good way of doing it
that's all
because the same way
you know
the same way
an art
a rap artist
or a rapper
or mc
will rhyme about
shooting this and
like rappers rhyme
about how much dirt they do
how much drugs they sell
how many women they slept with
and all of that
which is all cool
yeah
this and that
but I looked at that
and said with that sick
because I was always a good guy
yeah
right
you know what I'm saying
so
well you want to be the hero
you want to see the man
right
so the same way
they rhymed about that
I'm like
like I made a record
about Christmas
it's Christmas time
and holless queens
mom's cooking chicken
and collet greens
rice is stuffing
motherfucker
like I want to say
motherfucker man
Santa Claus bitch
but I said no
I don't I don't
I don't need to curse
or be profane to um
but we play Christmas in
holless
it's a staple in our house
every Christmas
also in my opinion
that is the greatest Christmas
on all time
it's all time
people starting to say that now
they said no
it used to just be
well god told me look
it used to just be
Ben Crosby
and that King Cole
yeah
those were the two
stay on what
um Ben Crosby's was um
um
I'm dreaming
of a white
oh yeah
and oh
that's nuts roasting on and on
now
but you're sure
now it's
dun dun dun
dun dun dun
dun dun
dun dun
dun dun
dun dun dun
dun dun dun
exactly
so
that's just
that's just
and to be able to do that
but
so like you said
I wanted to be a hero
but it was all pretend
right
I didn't know it was a manifest
what really made me
want to be the King of Rock
and then you know
when I did my 86
I did Son of Bifrit
brother of Al
Ben was my mother
I was sitting there one day
and I was like
Thor
is the son of Odin
from Asgard
he got the brother
named Loki
this true story
he got the hammer
that's Thor in the Marvel universe
and I said in this universe
I'm Darryl
I got a father named Bifrit
my brother's name is Alfred
and I got a mic
so I said
I'm gonna become Son of Bifrit
brother of Al
Ben is my mother
and runs my pal
it's McDaniels
not McDonald's
these rhymes are Darryl's
those burgers are Ronald's
I ran down my family tree
my mother
so it was me
pretending to be this
super powered individual
in this universe of hip hop
that was my
fascinating
thing
I had no idea
King of Rock
I had no idea
they was gonna start calling me King
dude
and it was all
it was all
it was all from comic books
imaginations
that's right here
yeah
a graphic novel
I put out a graphic novel
comic book
three years ago
that's amazing
where it's DMC
but in that world
I'm not a super powered rapper
I'm a
I'm actually a teacher
yeah
who has super powers
running around
fighting all the bad guys
it's unbelievable
so great
do you know by the way
I always wonder this about
hit songs
yeah
is there
do you
feel like like
Hollis or
Mary Mary
or Beats to the Rhime
or whatever
any of these songs
do you ever leave
and you're like
I don't know
like maybe it'll be
like maybe it'll be well received
or do you feel like
when you're done
well
for me
I was never from the song standpoint
for me
is when I do this shit live
you can tell
mother fuckers
ain't gonna want to get on the mic
yeah
and I'm not gonna curse
but like it's playing
it's like you know
it's tricky to rock a rhyme
I wanted to make records
at eight years old
that I could still do at 80
the same way that I made it
when I was eight
now I want to say a lot of
a lot of
hip-hop songs
like a lot of hip-hop songs
the dudes don't even look right
rapping them now
yes
they're not they don't
I wanted to make music
that was timeless
because I was influenced
by Dylan
and Crochi
and songwriters
songwriters
now if
if I would have made
gangsta rap
rap kids
so if I would have made
those type of
right like
let's I
got a million
million rhymes
about all that shit
for all of you
rappers out there
that don't think
I could fucking be harder
than all your punk
motherfuckers
brass monkey
yeah
body beasties
brass monkey
that funky
I got this rhyme
that's more than real
when that was
actually my rhyme
what
about old English
40 ounce old English
yeah
I had a rhyme
but I knew
I can't do a rhyme
about old English
because all the kids
who want to drink it
because I'm cool
if I did a song
about my sneakers
look what happened
yeah
right
you know I'm saying
no curls
no braids
peasy
hitting
still get paid
I am the reason
why Yeezy's
can get made
like we made that
wrecking
now motherfuckers
gonna get sneaker deals
I started
realizing my power
like I thought
this shit was
playtime
and pretend
make believe
shit
I would
fucking
tapped into something
so I know
I had to watch
my thing
but I had this rhyme
about I had rhymes
about weed
and rhymes
about sex
and this and that
but for me
I wanted to be
so stronger
on a whole different level
I didn't
I don't need
and I don't need
to do
fucking
16 bars
those were the best
16 bars
my career is
D got the best
four lines ever
yeah
king of rock
there is none higher
what does none higher
there's nobody
that's it
I don't have to explain
that shit
no no
king of rock
that I tell kids
that they go
there's none higher
Mr. McDaniels
yeah yeah
but I had a rhyme
I got
because um
I
I'm very
I've been sober
14 years though
but
old english
was my favorite thing
next to comic books
the 40 ounce of
old english
sure
I was making a
case today
a case
yeah
what
that was bad
we'll talk about that
yikes
I want to ask you this
pancreas
I had um
a cute pancreatitis
my life was
fucked up for
oh it's not good
but I was taking
the old english
because I thought it
because I'm shy
well I'm not shy no more
I realized I don't need
a substance
to give me courage
right
but the old english
was my courage
I had a rhyme
I got this rhyme
that's more than real
when you drink
old english
here's how you feel
you're reaching
the freezer for 40
ounce or 32 ounce
whichever counts
you feel each bottle
for the one that's cold
it's got to be cold
when you're drinking
old gold
but you might take
the one that's hot
you got to get it hot
that's all they've got
a dollar 15
it's a long time ago
that is the price
that's not too much
if you want to get nice
you pay your money
you walk out the door
then you say to yourself
I remember that store
you look around
for a place to stand
with a 40 of old english
in your hand
you crack the court
you put it to your lip
you tilt it slightly
you take a sip
now by now
you should know the deal
because that one sip
you already feel
you're feeling bold
you try to guzzle
you finish it off
but it ain't no puzzle
and then I've had something
Jesus man
you drink 140
then you drink 10 more
oh my life
you find yourself going back
to that
now that place is your favorite store
so I had all
I had rhymes about guns
and all that stuff
and you really were
drinking that much at one point
yeah really
I want to ask you this
before I forget
so because I remember
and I have two questions as well
very important
hard-headed questions too
so this is what I want to ask though
because I think it resonates
with anybody
you remember being in college
and your parents
so when you're like
I'm going to go on this tour
and your mom's like
motherfuck
and you know
she flips out
I like that she curses at me
yeah yeah
so admirable
you know
it's a $1500 gig
obviously
with time here
a few years go by
you become Run DMC
and you're doing
fucking arenas
and music videos
so take me to like
what is your parents reaction
to like
their son becoming
a worldwide superstar
they didn't see it
as a worldwide superstar
no
my
right
even
to walk this wait time
for them
it was
the 83 of this shit
going to end
or didn't
okay 84
it's just going to end
oh really
85
this shit's got to end
yeah
it just never did
yeah
they was waiting for this
today
was telling me
save your money
which I didn't do too good
I brought a $50,000 sound system
in my fucking truck
that never worked
go change this stupid shit
like crazy shit
but you should get more
of my parents
stay day
gold chains
Lamborghinis
it wasn't until
I would say
for my parents
it probably wasn't until
the gold chain
yeah
it probably wasn't until
the 90s
where they knew
that we were something
special
that long
geez
yeah
the 90s
I remember
it had
it got to the point
where now we're pioneers
and legends
now my mother and father
84 is going to end
85 86
so by the time I got to the 90s
they looked back and said
oh my god
my son
all this time
yeah
because they all turned
in worried
yeah
they're not thinking show
but they're worried
save your money
and stuff like that
people are you having any regrets
I said yes
I would
the only regret I have
is I want to spend so much
fucking money on coke
yeah
that's the only one
but you know
not you know
you make a record of
cops
I like the journey
yeah
feeling is good
I like you know
that's bullshit
I like the
mess part of the careers
it's the ups and downs
and shit
but if you know
I spent
I probably spent
like a half a million dollars
on coke
on coke
geez
only in the 80s though
not crack
I knew
yeah yeah yeah
I could never get in
a freebase
and stuff like that
but coke yeah
but it was only a period
from like 84 to 87
88
where the coke was really good
I talked this
certain individuals
in show business
it's a bad thing to say
but we sit there
there was a period in the 80s
where
the coke was really good
around that Miami
vice time show
the coke was
it was everywhere
it was so every
the record of parties
there's
everywhere you went
it was coke
you know
to play my record
here's some
here's an eight ball
heavy
but that's when it was good
and then crack came
and just destroyed everything
yeah
but for me
it was never
for my parents
it was never
they didn't realize
what I had done
tell that ride
was accomplished
I just had a flashback
of like
being in
we moved a lot
and we lived in
Plymouth, Minnesota
for a while
being in the basement
of that house
and getting
like my boom box
and just playing
Mary Mary
like over and over
wow
which brings me
that's a monkey song
brings me to my next
yes
my next question
who's Mary
I've been fucking
thinking about this
bitch my whole life
yeah Mary Mary
who the fuck is Mary Mary
a lot of Mary's
in the world hate that song
yeah
their whole life was
Mary why you're bugging
it was a monkey song
I didn't know that
Mary, Mary the monkeys
yeah we sampled the monkeys
where
so Rick Rubin said
it said it was Mary
Mary
where are you going to
so Rick Rubin said
flipping and say
why you're bugging
yeah
he said it
yeah yeah
it was Mary Mary was
a monkey song
tricky
is actually
my Sharona
mixed with
Tony Basil's
Hey Mickey
oh Mickey
you're so fine
you're so fine
you blow my mind
hey Mickey
da boom
da hey Mickey
make
see hip hop has a
habit of
we didn't invent
shit
we reinvented everything
right right
so for us
my thing was fine
and this is what
the early hip hop
has taught me
fine melodies
from those folk songs
and those classic rock songs
that you could turn into yours
over some bad ass beats
yeah
and that
but
see
it was different
we studied
the people
we didn't just steal the music though
we studied who we sampled
right
and I'm saying like
to be inducted
and as a rock and roll
of fame is cool
because I used to steal
everything from
no motherfuckers
right right
like I just no way
they letting us in
yeah
you're like I'm bad at business
you know I'm saying
there's no way
and when we got inducted
in 2009
the heads of the
rock and roll of fame called me
Jaryl come in
we have to tell you something
because it was me
and run because J had
passed away already
you guys were prophetic
I was like
what you talking about
it was like
in 1985
you did a video
about you getting
being denied entry
into the rock and roll of fame
and you're fucking crash the door
and you're pull the plug
on jerry lee louis
throw the hat on the Beatles
we take Michael Jackson's glove
it's in the video
for the whole world to see
off it stand
in all of its glory
run dozen on the ground
is a close up of my deed
a stepping on it
they said y'all did that video
in rock and roll of fame
then start till 86
so now you got the whole thing
with rap shouldn't be in here
and I remember when jean Simmons
was saying what he said
I always have a habit of
saying shit that make everybody
curse me out
yeah
like I don't have a lot of followers
I don't get a lot of likes and views
but this day I was like
I can't agree with what
jean Simmons is saying
my time mother fucker
fuck you
Darrell fuck you
motherfuckers
well I never liked you
and I like run better
fuck your mother fuck this and that
but jean Simmons said
the rock and roll of fame
true story
the rock and roll of fame
was originally for rock bands
but if jean Simmons saying that
so then it should be the rock
roll of fame for rock
so-called rock and roll bands
then you got to have an annex
for soul music
but that means
James Brown don't get it
yeah
that means listen to it
the rock and roll of fame
told me this
if you play a fucking flute
right no drums no guitar
if you play a fucking flute
Tom if you play a flute
yeah
and you fucking sell out the coliseum
you're a fucking rock star
yeah bro
yeah yeah
so that's what they're based on
but I can understand what jean Simmons said
because they don't play fucking instrument
his whole thing
jean's thing for people that don't know
was just that
the musician thing
the band thing
you know rock started with the band thing
but
you gotta let the
people think run DMC
this is another thing I hate
they think that
we was the first for everything
but not everything
grandmaster flash in the first five
is the first to be inducted
in the rock and roll of fame
because of the message
that record is so
that shit is right up there
with led zeppelin
poor mccartney
all of that shit
broken glass
every the sound of it
that shit is a fucking work of art
so it deserves to be in a rock and roll of fame
so when we went in
people
most of the rock guys
that do have a beef
with fake ass rappers getting in
mm-hmm
that's real funny
let's see what happens
when the fake ass rappers chuck in it
but they said run DMC get a pass
because his was unique about us
the only thing that wasn't live
Mr. Jean Simmons was the drums
mm
we had rock guitar
all my hits are rock records
rock box
king of rock
walk this way
all rock
tricky
and mary mary
all my hits
that's why I said I'm the king of rock
I don't want to be the king of rap
why do you want to
even back then
all rappers do these
banter back and forth
about who's better and stuff like that
so
I didn't want to be the king of rock
me as a kid
my vision wasn't to be better than meli mel
and jz and m&m
me as a kid
my vision
is to even now
my vision is to go
I'm going for
fucking Mick Jagger's jugular
when I fucking walk in the room
it's me pretending though
I'm really not just me
Michael Jackson better
fucking bow
I'm put to
I'm really thinking that
but when I get in the room
I ain't gonna say that
yeah but I'm in
but I'm saying it
yeah Michael
that's why we said
the original rhyme on king of rock
was iller than iller
there's no one chiller
fuck Michael Jackson
and his bullshit thriller
but on a record
we had to say it's not Michael Jackson
and this is not thriller
I originally wrote my rhymes like that
I wrote a rod of rhymes
with the fucking
I'm the Hulk
combined with Thanos
yeah
because Thanos beat the Hulk up
in infinity war
which killed me
I don't like nobody that
did that
yeah
but there was a reason
Thanos is still tighten
and this and that
but when the Hulk out his ass kicked in that
so now
when I was on the mic
I was Hulk Thor
and Captain America
and combined
so now at this point in my life
I'm Hulk Thor Captain America
and Thanos
but I'm a nice Thanos
so that you know
we are all products of pop culture
yeah
you know when you look at me
I'm not just my Adidas
and walk this way
I'm Fred Flintstone
I'm the Munsters
I'm the Jetsons
I'm my dream
I'm all in this stuff
that's who I am
so I draw from those things
even now at 55
because it was so important to my life
did you by the way was it
calculated
you're young
yeah
not that much older
I'm not I'm 55 now
he's like a decade
and you're young
were the glasses a calculated thing
or are those the glasses you were wearing
you know big ones
I used to walk around blind
until run said
yo we should wear your glasses
and then it was that simple
I only used to wear them in school
and when I was in the palace
I love those
those are great
I was ashamed of them
you were
but then you made them cool
is that crazy
yeah right
you made them cool
which is cool
that's why I tell kids
your weakness the thing
they're picking on you
and bullying while they're picking on you
that's you shine mother fucker
yeah
because you're sticking out
my whole life was
I mean I may I always tell people
go home and ask
who in hip hop made glasses cool
right
oh right
they're gonna say me
because what did I say
these for doing it all at a time
m's for the rhymes
that all mine
sees for cool cool ass can be
and run would say
why you wear those glasses
I'm gonna go so I can say
I didn't wear them to be cool and famous
I want because I'm wearing them
you've seen a do a google search
for just DMC glasses
well I think I'm wearing a version of them
right now right
I'm thinking I might have to go into
I might have to go into um
I wear
I think everybody's
from
yep here they go
there they are
yep look
and the guy looking like me
and oh yeah man
run you say hate that
because every image of hip hop is always me
oh now hold on
all of the images is DMC with the gladness
not J not run run you so always hate that
because he was the leader of the group
yeah yeah
but let me ask you about the logo
which is possibly the most iconic
oh yeah
in the world
it's fantastic
how the fuck did you guys come in
we needed one and
we wanted to just be something that was
simple clean
always simple and clean
say Adams who was also the
art director for the beastie boys
out of rush management
say Adams came up with
originally it was going to be run DMC
linear flat
yeah
but say flipped it
he put the run on top of DMC and added the bars
so Rizzy was just going to be run
dash DMC like you see on
on the cover of the albums or something
have it all the people that mimic it
you know like everybody
oh no it's it's it's it's great
and now you would think that it would ruin us
because it's so bootlegged and so
run race run for run
Obama whatever
it run chicken run but
it's the dogs now go online
the dogs are wearing the shirts and all that
but people told me
it's now one of probably the third
to the bigger iconic
logos McDonald's and Coca-Cola
100% and the run DMC is right up there with us
100% we don't even we don't even have products
well you know back in the 80s that banned black flag
they have just a symbol of four bars
and it was easy for kids to tag it
that's so yeah because then skateboarders
like tag it up
I can't believe we don't have a run YMH shirt
you gotta have them you gotta make one
but that's great because I remember drawing these on my books
because it's just cool I mean and it's cool
look right no idea man
look DMC just endorsed it we're fucking doing
you can do it yeah you can do it definitely do it
for sure that's um all right I want to jump ahead to something though so like
obviously um you guys you know go on to become
just these massive stars and
because we were talking before about the book
and you're mentioning like 10 ways not to commit suicide
yeah it all caught up with me um 1993
in the 80s we changed the world right so because we changed the world
we had a whole new fertile ground for everybody to follow
so 90s hip-hop is now taking off right exploding
big crazy moves big and smalls to back
Nas will everything Jay-Z everybody's coming
and not only that
corn limp biscuit kid rock kid rock said run DMC
Narrow Smith had a baby not popped out yeah
corn limp biscuit all of that exploding
so now we're in the game
but we used to be the it right but we still respect it
yeah you know we're pioneers let everybody show biggie
pock puffy all show us love
but we're not on MTV no more we're not on the radio
Pete rock CL smooth they reminisce yeah
they kill it nobody by nature's killing Q-tip
try to kill it
Pete rock produces us a song called down with the king
on a new album that we're putting down in 1993
Pete rock produced us he hates when I say this but this is true
Pete rock has produced so many so many he's great
if not one of the if not the greatest this is debatable
produce ever he produces a song down with the king force
which does for run DMC
what people say walk this way did for arrow smith
it brought us back down with the king
in the 90s and now every we all too
now the motherfuckers is really scared to get on the mic
yeah because we back in the 80s soon as that record dropped
I woke up wanting to kill myself
paydays was bigger we is headlining we is opening
we's opening for pock and biggie opening for um
naughty my nature busting everybody's ass
people realize and we cannot put them on a show with anybody
go on tour yourself so life is good now it's the 90s
we're getting 90s payday now because usually the 80s guys
get lower paydays because they used to be hot so you got
now we getting the 90s payday I woke up and there was just
something inside of me it was this void in me
and everybody was pining a legend down with them
taking the tours I had to had Romany year where I said um um
only g.o.d could be a king but me if enough to g.o.d be in me then
oh shit DMC is the best ever all of that
nah I wanted to kill myself and it got to the point where
I sat there one day and it was just the dread of life on me
I was like oh shit what the fuck is going on
okay calm down I'm Daryl Mcdan who's from holless queens New York
bifids my father banners my mother outfits my brother running jay on my friends
I made it to st. john's universe who we made one fucking record it was a hit
we made another record it was a hit we made an album where we go
I went through my whole life my adidas deal so why I'm down with the king isl why am I
feeling like this I didn't know what it was the void got so uncomfortable that I wanted
to take my life because I couldn't live with it it was so painful it was like what the fuck is
this I don't want to live no more so I was getting ready to jump off a roof in Yugoslavia
and right when I was getting ready to jump something said stop wait you can't jump yet
because people know the DMC story it's two books on us behind the music
or you go wikipedia and google me but nobody knows the little boy Daryl
who made this DMC thing possible so before I kill myself I want to write a book and I want to go
what's up world I'm Daryl Mcdan who's from the ground breaking rap group run DMC Blaseblades
for holless queens New York I was born May 31st 1964 and when I got to that part of my identity
I was like oh I know my birthday but I don't know no details so I'm gonna call my mother up just to
get some more details just to make it more interesting for the reader so I called my moms up
and I go hey mom I'm right and I didn't go I'm about to kill myself she'd have lost it yeah
or she might have cursed me out hey mother fuck you better not fucking kill yourself I'm
busting away okay so I go ma how much did I weigh she told me what time I was born she told me what
hospital she told me hung up the phone hour later I hang up hour later my mother and father calls
back at this point in my life I'm an alcoholic suicidal metaphysical spiritual wreck who don't
know what the fuck is going on with me that's about his killer cell we have something else to tell you
so I thought it was going to be something simple like yo it was a snowstorm and the power went out
and they still gave birth to you they hit me with this 1993 depressed suicidal well you was a month
old when we brought you home and you're adopted but we love you bye click what what yeah damn
yes so you can imagine what happened to my whole being right then and then crushed bad timing
crushed so jack daniels and um jim beam become my friends I'm fucking drinking 24 seven you're
drinking a bunch of oe you said no no this is this I had stopped drinking the oe in um 91 oh because
I got a cute pancreatitis and I almost died and when I got after I was in a hospital for a month
and a this is what happened I was in a hospital for a month and a half and the doctor said son
you cannot be drinking a fucking case of oe English today you have two choices when you get out this
hospital you can drink and die or not drink and live so for cold turkey I stopped drinking when I
found out that I was adopted I started drinking again this and that just now I'm gonna kill myself
all of this but then something happened with the revelation of you're adopted because then I found
out I was a foster kid yeah no idea yeah yeah yeah and my mother and father was like we think you
might be Dominican and all of this so I'm dealing with all of that and then someone saw me said
yo I gotta I gotta find out what what's this all about so that was a catalyst to get me to go
to rehab and stop drinking and the thing that made me stop drinking was this a famous when I found
out that I was adopted I felt alone felt isolated felt something wrong with me like little kids why
this why this am I not good enough this and then why I can't be well but I had the best mother and
father ever because even my therapist said motherfucking you rhymed about them all through your
whole fucking career yeah so your spirit and your being knew who your mother and father was
you just had this other mystery but the thing that brought everything together was a famous adopted
lady who wasn't celebrity we just said she's famous because what she said she said the
reason why an adoptee or an orphan or a foster kid should search for the biological parents
besides medical now you gotta understand my father biker was diabetic so from when I was summer jobs
all the way up to college when I felt out of form I wouldn't mark diabetic diabetic because of but
that's not true that's not true for me so I had the void was me being reborn through Pete Rock
and the universe is telling me motherfucker there's something you need to know some superhero
shit so the lady said the reason why now you don't have to at first I didn't want to do it
no I'm a bife and abandonist my mother father but in the back of my mind is
who is my birth mother without a come who's my father all of these other questions but
a lot of times we're safe if we don't go that route yeah but this lady said the reason why
you should do it is because of this and I said what she said I never said this this blew my mind
oh you want to write a book motherfucker you never start a book from chapter two
see those books behind you you don't pick the book up and start reading from yeah
Darrell McDaniels the third member of Run DMC all of that that void came at the rebirth of my power
to let me know I was living my life from chapter two that's why I was doing all the drinking yeah
there was something with the old English 40s I was trying to fill but I didn't find under that
out until I went to rehab so I said okay let me go get sober so I could deal with all of this
I really I didn't want to when I went to rehab I discovered the most powerful thing that I ever
did in my life besides make my ideas and walk this way I discovered therapy I discovered this
thing called therapy and a lot of men love it I'm saying and it's men in general a lot of black
men all these black motherfuckers are friends you know motherfuckers ain't tough and nothing like that
you're dealing with some shit that you'll think is a weakness that you should deal with because
if you deal with it's just strength I went to therapy change your life the first question
my therapist I was 35 years old when I went in and he came in with his clipboard and his doctor
suit I was 35 he probably was like 46 47 maybe 50 white guy he sits down glasses just like yours
he sits down and says Darrell during your career at Run DMC did anybody ever do anything to make
you angry and I'm sitting there I'm like no he said true story he put his clipboard down
he stood up he took off his doctor smart because he wanted to come at me real he sat down he looked
me in mind he said you a goddamn motherfucking liar and when he said that to me yeah man in 1985
when Joe did this I was diagnosed with suppressed emotions the reason why I became alcoholic was
I was scared to tell people how I failed yeah because when I was giving up for adoption there
was a primal wound where I want to be accepted subconsciously I did not want to be given away
again there's a book called the primal room but I forgot the lady's name I know a professor it's a
lady it starts with a V but she said when I was given away because I'm with my birth mother for
nine months oh you so I'm giving away your spirit is too long ago what are you doing I want to be
with my mother you scar about it of course when I went to therapy I look back I'm OCD I'm very
neat I always want to be in control and I always want people to like me so my my therapist said D
you had the power 20 years ago not to fall down and stay in the catacombs of depressing I said what
do you mean by that if anybody ever does something about you it's okay to speak up like people say
okay D if that's the case what would the front DMC there was a lot of records I made that I didn't
want to make and people go they they they call out the good ones but missy lane rack time to hold
back from hell album which was a fucking disaster you know and then you know more poverty it was
a thing where I was a follower but I was following for the wrong reasons I was a following to be
accepted like I wouldn't have made that record that way but I didn't want to hurt J and runs I
didn't want to cause no emotion I didn't want to miss your problem so it's mental it's all
meant so I was diagnosed with suppressed emotions but my therapist said yo when you was writing your
rhymes not high on O.E. that's when you wrote all your good shit I didn't think about that you never
thought of that I never thought about that and he said what what where was you drawing your courage
from I didn't remember my comic books until I went to therapy we're all English replace the
imagination that I was getting from Marvel yeah which made me write a rhyme about anything so good
than anybody but I was drinking the old and you say I gotta be this this you know I need this for
the courage so when I got out of rehab what had happened was I was in rehab and therapy this whole
time my partner run he had 10 years of a successful TV show runs house yeah 10 years and people would
tell me first season came on they waiting for DMC to show up oh he ain't show up this season next
season next year 10 years I ain't show up there's no beef with me and run because imagine what happened
to me um I got acute pancreatitis I got depressed I found out that I was adopted um J master J got
shot and killed then my father died had a lot to deal with a lot a lot to deal with fortunately I
found um therapy on the third one yeah so I was able to deal with all these other things
so when I got out of rehab and therapy I'm walking the world now and people always go yo we never see
you because I'm not on TV you know I'm saying nobody knows when LD was it what's up with you
was you and run got a problem no me and running the best of friends I love him but he's a fucking
TV star now yeah so what's up with what you're doing oh I just got out of rehab and I would say
that and you'll see people now yeah it ain't no DMC run shit so what what's that about I
would tell him y'all I was drinking a quesadilla today Jack Daniels and Jim beam was my friend I
found out that I was adopted I was suicide what really and I would sit there and tell these people
this just kept happening no DMC man could you come talk to my father because he no DMC could you
come talk to my dover because she like it was crazy and I found myself going to speak to people
and they was like yo you put it out to so nonchalize that yo I'm hip hop I gotta keep it real I'm not
gonna frontend but will you be that last thing there you know I'm in Hollywood you know it's
like I just got out of rehab yeah isn't that I started telling my truth good for you for doing
that which was so powerful and putting the book out too and then I was doing that so much in it
all the people I was just talking to people they were like yo D you should write a book and I was
like no because I will not capitalize off an unfortunate situation you know I'm saying sell
some books make some money they said no D man you I know you ain't that type of guy but he said
what a book you can reach so many people not even being there yeah so I put out a book called
10 ways not to commit suicide which goes into detail everything that I just talked about I gotta
ask because you were you became aware of it you know surprisingly later in life when you found
out you were adopted yeah did you pursue finding your you know your biological not till 2004 found
out that I was adopted in 97 and it took 97 98 99 2000 took seven years eight years for me to get
to courage and that just came about where when I first found out that I was adopted I didn't know
any other adopted people so that was a hell in itself yeah I was walking around here I was all
right and I was in therapy but I was still a mess but the beautiful thing I didn't have to drink
but it was hanging over me so when I met some of adopted people a matter of fact I got to
meet a nice young lady from LA named Sheila Jaffe and if you want to know who Sheila Jaffe is she
she's one of the greatest casting directors out here in LA uh Antiraj Sopranos Mark Wahlberg
John just to name a few so um I got to meet Sheila Jaffe and I didn't feel alone no more
so she introduced me to other adoptees here in LA they was like oh dude by the way um we do an
adoption anonymous thing I was like what the hell is that once a month we just go in the room and we
talk no therapist you know we just told people you could be angry you could cry whatever cool set
chains I'm sitting there but at these meetings they was like are you dying and oh no I don't want to
know not nope just in there so a little instigation from Sheila and my other adopted friends they was
like yo you want to find your birthmark we know a private eye lady who started a private eye service
specifically for adoptees like she can go CIA and Russian all that her service is specifically
for specifically for adoptees so I used this private eye lady in 2004 and she comes back to me
your mother she lives in Staten Island she drives a silver Honda Accord and uh Christmas no Thanksgiving
of 2004 I knocked on the door and the door opened up and it was my birth mother
and I found two brothers and a sister that I didn't know I had and it's funny it was the first time
in my life that I saw somebody related to me that looked exactly like right because all before I was
trying to you know fit in you know trying to put two and two together okay I look like on Catherine
and Donnie and Samantha but I look nothing like my mother and father growing up yeah my brother
Alfred he looks like fucking Wesley Stipes look at me but the love they gave me there was no way I
wasn't a McDaniels so wait so what was the reason your mother gave you up did you get to ask her
yeah in the meeting and you know it was fine I was sitting so she says I know you died and
know I gave you up I was like shit lady that's an understatement yeah she hit me with this she said
I gave you up to give you a chance because what had happened was my brother was born three years
prior to her my mother was living in um Hamilton Heights in the Washington Heights area so that's
why my parents thought I was Dominican yes so my mother and father you know my doctor
and we think you might be Dominican because all they knew was this young girl couldn't keep you
and gave you up um I think through the Catholic services so she was young and she already so she
had my brother she had my brother when she was 18 and she my brother was raised by her and her
family so my father moved them from New York City to Staten Island and said don't go back and see that
boy and come home pregnant again she didn't listen so she came home pregnant with me it's no way
they could keep me so they put me up for adoption wow and now two brothers and a sister that I didn't
know I had do you guys yeah fortunately yeah 99.9 of reunions of her mother fucker don't you
double coy again I don't want to see your ass I'll call the police on you because it's nothing
right I gotta tell other adoptees they're not mad with you yeah they're mad at what you asked
remind them of like a lot of mothers is reminded of the man in that time and let's think on the
therapy they won't be able to deal with those issues it's gotta be wild not that it's important
to this it's gotta be wild to see that the you're you know someone you had your son that you had
to give up for adoption is oh no it's the wildest thing ever because she goes this was cool um she
goes when I'm speaking to her on the phone before in person meeting she goes okay what do you do are
you married yeah married okay she goes what do you do and I'm going I'm in the music business she
said oh yeah what kind of music I go um you know I'm a rapper I make hip hop music and she goes oh
okay I go what what's the matter she said no she goes um what's the name of your group and I'm
going run DMC and she's real quiet I go hello hello run DMC I love run DMC this is my birth mother
how long I'm in my music and knowing I'm the god you know I know all tricky and walk this way and all
of that's wild man so now after that conversation before I got to meet in person she got to go
do her work all right we'll meet on Thanksgiving she got off the phone had to call up her kids
sit down I need to tell you all right I gotta tell you something I have a kid this and that you
know yeah ma whatever what and he's DMC so now they really know yeah ma yeah whatever you know
he's really DMC so she set up for me when I walked through the door you see that faces dropped oh
shit because my older brother Mark who I said was born before me I had uh it was Mark then me I was
giving up and then she had Damon and my sister about Jaheed about two other men but Mark's whole
life 80 mark come here that god DMC could be your brother 84 85 oh they're always telling him
he got to the point where stop fuck I don't give a fuck DMC come to find out DMC's really really
your brother that's hilarious I mean my brother Mark that would blow your mind exactly like me in
the 80s go tea wears glasses check this out get the he could draw he could draw too no
oh wow she's the youngest of us I'm very OCD you didn't see me fixing the labels here sitting
here like this label I'm trying to deal with it but the first thing to deal with in overcoming
is admit that you do it just look see how this is looking at me this one can't be like that oh right
that kills me yeah the controlling you got to do that and my son does it all the time he moves
all the stuff he got it from you and then he sits there with my friends and so they can watch me
come in but I'm starting to learn that kid rock taught me something very significant I love kid rock
because I'm doing my depression he called me to Detroit come stay with me for three days
and you just just you know not no DM just come hang on and he introduced me to the um the the
peanut butter and jelly ready made things wait when they first came out those peanuts the smuckers
peanut butter and jelly that is nasty as hell you know I love the swirl in the jar you mean no
no not this world that's nasty disgusting I hate that no I'm talking about the ready made sandwiches
the frozen ones oh bro I'm interested but kid rock did something that was very therapeutic for me
he took my carry on bag just so neat and he said I'ma pour your bag out I'm sitting here some
starting to sweat now I'm thinking about it I'ma pour he said deed pouring your bag I was not
gonna kill you so he poured my whole bag out on the ground one day and it hurt bad but then I said
oh shit I didn't die so I know that if that being like that it's not gonna kill me I prefer it like
that now you're also you're playing uh in a in a band now yes I'm in I'm in it no no no okay
what happened with that was I went to um rock on the range in Ohio is rock on the range the big
festival rock on the range that they do every year I was playing with um I was playing with
pop evil I did a remix of one of their songs pop eat trenches so pop evil wanted to bring me out
at rock on the range festival this was about seven or eight years ago so I go to rock on the range
and I'm backstage sitting with all of rock the metal guy everybody this and that and and Rob
Dukes was singing with Exodus at the time he was the third lead singer of Exodus so he comes up to
me just to tell me how cool I am and I'm like oh okay yeah thank you yeah we dig you and everybody's
digging units in that and he goes oh we should do a song together and I go okay what I'm gonna hold
you to that so um we went in the studio to do one song and it came out so good that we kept
making songs and making songs and making songs but at the end of the recording the album the the band
he was singing with Exodus Exodus fired him the day me and Rob met the next day he got fired from
Exodus so he started a new band called um um generation kill okay we was making an album called
fragile mortals okay the album was called fragile mortals so we made all of these songs with his
generation kill band but then the generation kill band broke up but that being said at the time I was
already working on this project called DMC but this um entity of DMC stands for dynamic musical
collaborations so what I was doing with I was um recording with all my favorite punk
classic rock and alternative artists um Joan Jett I love her huge fan Joan Jett Sammy Hager
Tim Armstrong from Rancid Travis Barker Sebastian Bach Rob Dukes um who else is on the album this
is all the music you love too yeah this is all the rock music that I love so the fragile mortals
album is now not coming out because the band the bands do got you but you're still you're playing
in that I know you said you and Ron will still do like some like do pride yeah we'll do we'll do
we'll do your we'll do a radio show we'll do a festival but it's gotta be a lot of money yeah
yeah sure and it's not an eagle thing it's like for me and running get on stage it's like what do
you pay Kanye and Jay-Z oh yeah you have to pay us more yeah because I put my fucking work you know
I'm saying so that's what people say it now because the hip hop is a billion dollar company yeah yeah
I'm not coming for 30 000 yeah and you you want the Beatles of hip hop that's what they go yeah it's
your fault you should have just said run the MC was a good group from the 80s yeah but you're
gonna call us the Beatles pioneer the reason why this exists and you want me to come play your
show yeah you know I'm saying you gotta pay me Beatle Kanye what's going on can you pick me up
with a discount for me for a private show yes okay cool yes definitely for you because you're my
friend thank you but everybody else everybody else I just gave you the pitch you want me and run
check gotta be really big really big and and now what I'm here now in LA um after JMS to Jay
passed away rest in peace JMS to Jay um I didn't want to do the same presentation that I did with
run and Jay right because that's need to be respected of course like you know y'all can make
work you know we can't replace our drama Jay was the band the whole thing right so what I did now
was I wanted to do a different a different interpretation of what I'm known for so now
I have a band it's called DMC and the Hell Raisers from Raising Hell and you know the
Phenomenon of course so what we do is we do my whole catalog live live drums live bass live guitar
and I still have DJ Charlie Chen who is Jay's protege on the turntables like even Suckham Seas
which is all beat we add rock guitar and we make it hard and how often do those shows play
all the time all the time yeah yeah that's what I do 95 95% of what I do is I go to um group homes
adoption agencies foster care agencies you know middle schools and high schools and I speak to
the kids about comic books hip hop and importance of knowing something wow like you know I don't
want to tell kids you need to go to college yeah education is important but I tell them no matter
what you do you need to learn yeah you know I'm saying like you got this was like funny to me because
I I knew like I was even saying I go in the car today on the way here I was like you know I've
only seen him in interviews but I go I'm telling you like the MC is a good guy yeah one of the
good guys everybody want to be the bad guy because the bad guy when I say everybody want to be the
bad guy but the bad guy ain't so bad everybody want to be the bad guy until the good guy kicks his
ass and that's one of the records that we got coming out right I'm sick and tired of being bullied
you're not going to push me around anymore I'm going to make sure you clearly clearly understand
that into my own hands I'm taking the law not bad meaning bad but bad meaning good don't want to
kick your ass but I know that I should you came to attack and I was hoping you would oh it's going
to be crazy oh I love it everybody want to be the bad guy but the bad guy casing is is sad
everybody want to be the bad guy until the good guy kicks his ass I love that that's that everybody
out then yeah you uh you have skills man it's a it's unbelievable this is a treat man thank you
no thank you for having me on man this is so dope I've watched you stand up man you have me crying
oh thanks man no no like crying that's when I know you're funny as a fuck thanks man I'm crying
I'm saying my wife's like what's the matter I'm listening to her right now really funny that's
an honor thank you man I want to come catch you alive I would love that I feel honored I'm very
honored but did Mike Tyson really come and see you yeah yeah yeah he really did he really came and
that's so funny he really hung out no Mike's a really good guy yeah yeah I actually got to see him
again um a few months ago he was like people comment that big shout out big shout out to Mike I love
my me and Michael Ray back he was with us when we played Madison Square Garden fuck yeah and he was
champion of the world and stuff like that and run DMC the Beastie Boys Eric me and Rock M Udini
and LL Cool J and I was hanging out with Mike Tyson that night so we have a lot in common yeah
that's a wild night it's a crazy night hell yeah that's crazy that's Mike doing his thing back there
exactly yeah um yeah dude this was a blast yeah thank you so much thank you for having me on
just so you know uh check out obviously DMC and the HellRaisers check out the book 10 Ways Not to
Commit Suicide and the comic book and the comic Darryl Decompany is called Darryl Makes Comics DMC
DMC yeah Darryl Makes Comics because I couldn't use Marvel and I couldn't use DC my man Riggs was
like Riggs Morales was actually Eminem's right hand man over at Shady Records and um he's my
editing chief with my comic book company so he said what do you want to call your comic book
company I'm like I don't know oh DMC Darryl Makes Comics because that's what I'm gonna be doing yeah
perfect yeah it fits you're a great guy I really enjoyed this conversation man thank you for having me
thank you man
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