Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura - 507-DMC-Your Mom's House with Christina P and Tom Segura

Episode Date: July 10, 2019

As it turns out, the intro petition is gaining steam. Tom also starts the show bringing up his poll in regards to the future of "The Fart Mic." Thankfully Big Red is here to break up the tension. Your... Mom's House continues to hear success stories about those inspired to start selling panties and feet pictures on the internet. Plus, more TikToks and an update on a recent appearance from Theo Von. The legendary DMC is now inside of Studio Jeans!! Tom and Christina realize immediately that he is not only one of the most famous people to have been on the couch, but one of the nicest. DMC tells us how he grew up worshiping Superheroes and how they inspired his music. We hear about how he met all the other legends he's worked with over the years including a hilarious story about Aerosmith. Pull them high and pull them tight, Mommy.

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Starting point is 00:01:10 that's jeans and my cunt uh i think fucking know what forget his name is it Matthew Miller that made that i don't know but it really is a treasure a national treasure it really is a great song
Starting point is 00:01:21 happy forth of Ju 來 yeah this is a really fuckin patriotic song yeah i think it was George Bush that first played that song when he was in office
Starting point is 00:01:31 the first George Bush the elder one that just passed he was like jeans and my cunt it was a big big deal so it's really well if a candidate use that song as their campaign song for 2020
Starting point is 00:01:46 yeah you voted I'm voting like if Trump use this I'd be like you know what bro you have my vote four more years dog you have good taste in music you know how to pick a tune that's what I would tell them
Starting point is 00:02:00 this guy looks crazy do you know this guy no but he looks interesting interesting is right alright he's gonna say something crazy I don't know let's just see let's get into it it's the new episode your mom's house
Starting point is 00:02:13 let's get let's party Jean let's do it ready you see big red in the background yeah man I know I told you I got the fucking visine I got the red out but I think she did some shit to my orange juice because I was fucking scratching the door
Starting point is 00:02:26 six a.m. this morning I'll let your big red come out you can't handle the truth that's what she said read my lips no new hats
Starting point is 00:02:42 welcome to your mom's house sorry with what Segura what the fuck is this yeah that was terrible
Starting point is 00:02:54 did you you didn't like that are you serious read my lips we talked last week about how you wanted like a little more innovation and stuff that you want to you know you want to
Starting point is 00:03:03 innovate with the intro I thought that meant you want to go in a different direction yeah but that has nothing to do with your mom's house read my lips no new taxes was that bush you know
Starting point is 00:03:12 there's experimenting seeing what works doesn't it doesn't make sense for the list wasn't that Jack Nicholson from from a few good men I don't know where I got it from you can't handle the truth oh yeah that is where yeah that's yeah but we don't even
Starting point is 00:03:24 play that that's on a drop on the show Nadov like you know but it's aggressive you know we're trying to it is nothing to do with the show okay you can't handle the truth she said read my lips that's what she said
Starting point is 00:03:40 welcome to your mom you're that's what she said that's the best you can do that's like an office joke that's what people say around the Xerox machine it's sounding we're better than this is a miss a miss
Starting point is 00:03:53 this is terrible this isn't even remotely in the same stratosphere is what we want to be in this is a page one rewrite I'll come back with something better and then you have Tim he puts him or do you want to go back to class I mean was that him out you can't even put him out
Starting point is 00:04:05 was that her that's his trademark sound that's like putting in Larry the cable guy you can't even play that in a dog that's what wait a minute what is you think Tim out I want to know the logic yeah what Tim Allen going why because you're laughing right
Starting point is 00:04:20 now because I'm laughing at how bad of an idea it is right that's what you're leaning on here's how bad this idea you know it's dumb it's fun it's funny it's not fun it's dumb shit that's like comedy yeah it's like office it's like office people humor that's what she
Starting point is 00:04:36 said yeah yeah such a dad but is that like for the dad boner oh so this would have been better like a like a year ago when we were more in the dad boner no no no every day of every year forever it's not funny never a good day this devastating here I was trying to be
Starting point is 00:04:51 creative and are you being serious I mean I thought okay what you want to hear no the answer I wanted what I thought and I'm sure what a lot of people thought whether or not it's agreed upon I thought we were getting our 12 minute intro today oh gosh well I mean that's I thought we were
Starting point is 00:05:09 tabling that why would we table that nobody wants I was just reading the room I thought that's what nobody wants the 12 minute okay let me okay I'm just going to pull it up myself because I can't rely on you right now so sorry let's see change.org longer as a joke it's not it's not an
Starting point is 00:05:29 intro nobody really wants to sit through 12 minutes of that nonsense I just want to say something okay yeah what are the signatures we're just under 6000 signatures that's people who took time out of there more than yeah that that wanted to sign on it looks like there's
Starting point is 00:05:49 another petition here down with the fart mic no oh and how's that one doing holy shit yeah let's talk about the fart mic petition that has 5900 signatures oh stop it does that's an important issue what's what are you talking about who are these people that don't like the fart mic are you being
Starting point is 00:06:08 serious now that's crazy yeah that's fake that's fake it's not I don't believe this these are the same people who don't want a long intro these are maniacs these aren't the real listeners of the show so wait so for next week what what are we doing with the with the intro okay look experimental I fucking didn't think you
Starting point is 00:06:30 were going to okay so I misinterpreted what you meant by when you said it okay I just misunderstood this is just a misunderstanding I feel like we're having a lot of misunderstandings about this I don't know I don't know how to like honestly yeah I I mean I'm legit losing sleep over this like I'm I'm I'm so I
Starting point is 00:06:49 should be really explicit probably right in explaining how it should go mm-hmm okay so I mean I would think that if you were gonna try something different with the intro you would use at least drops from this show and not George HW Bush giving a speech at the fucking I mean that's like 20 years old what
Starting point is 00:07:17 then Tim Allen doing his pig man sound and then that's what she said so maybe maybe stick to drops from this show that would be a good one yeah like the moose soup they got you guys are doing good there's only a thousand yeah related to that people really know you know maybe I'm just glassing I caught a moose there
Starting point is 00:07:41 you know or rub rub rub got it okay so why am I jeans up I would say that what's with the jeans like that okay stuff like that yeah it's like all right why in nature references okay that's a lot more clear I appreciate the direction this whole thing I don't know don't look at me and I'm not getting rid of the fart
Starting point is 00:08:07 mic I fought long and hard for a fart mic and it's not good I will look I'm reluctant to admit this but I'll pull it up right now I'll pull it up what I can't tell you first of all I can't tell you how many people told me I said Ben Salem wrong there it is there's the the poll I put up how many votes 18,000
Starting point is 00:08:27 people voted that's more than who voted in the last election 18 thousand people and I had the question was should we remove the fart mic from my image studio of the 18,000 people who voted 43% said yes over it no but 57% said no I'm gross see and that's a lot of people 57% is a lot of people and see I knew it
Starting point is 00:08:55 I knew it I knew it yeah I knew it thank you guys I appreciate your support for my fart mic I think Tom's just a little jealous because he hasn't really done a lot of good work on the mic and I think if you maybe improved your batting average you feel differently about the fart mic Tom I probably would probably
Starting point is 00:09:11 feel more positively about it too if I had a staff that could follow the intro okay well and lay off of him because you're also scaring this shit out of him you're very scary when you get mad right Nadam and it doesn't encourage him not creative you're terrifying I'm not mad but you're you
Starting point is 00:09:27 don't understand how scary you are when you're even look at you like that right now those hate daggers like it thank God I've worked on my co-dependency issues in therapy because I would internalize that as my fault I would try to oh so scary you're very terrifying all right I don't want to hear anything like that
Starting point is 00:09:46 anymore okay he gets it okay can we please go on with the show yeah let's go off the show okay so yeah what are you gonna talk about well look I wanted to get into this guy oh yeah I was even talking about this guy is really one of my favorites what the fuck is he talking about is a great way to start
Starting point is 00:10:07 the conversation he is he's on the beach for those of you listening and he looks like big-time big-time Tommy what's his name a little bit yeah I mean like big fat red old guy big fat red white guy isn't that a genre of white guys no he is he's he's a genre of big fat old white guy they just they get redder with
Starting point is 00:10:31 alcoholism and listen in the sun yeah yeah but he's also got a certain energy to him don't you think do you think it's drugs or mental illness my favorite game in the whole world because there's one of the two is definitely going on because it doesn't make sense right I mean go ahead and just yeah like
Starting point is 00:10:50 just get out there and fucking rock this day I already started 7am man listen she is everybody it's just better than morning coffee I'll tell you right now yeah so he but he just held up a can of Coors Corona yeah yeah yeah okay so I didn't even know Corona came in a can that's how I've never why never seen
Starting point is 00:11:12 Corona and have you know I didn't know that was I just realized it like right now it just hit me like I've only seen bottles of Corona and this fucking psycho managed to find a can now here's the thing I'm gonna go with alcoholism and drugs because now here's the telltale yeah the teeth are in good
Starting point is 00:11:31 shape he's got great teeth he's got a great smile no he actually takes care of his physical appearance I'm yes he's obese and red but other than that he's got you know he takes care of him he grooms his hair so that rules out a little bit mental illness okay cuz the guys like you know I'm saying like the
Starting point is 00:11:48 I'll make you come like that guy's clearly mentally ill he doesn't have his teeth he doesn't really take care of himself the same way that this man does so this guy is employed he's just he is he actually owns a business oh did I mean I wonder what yeah getting good at this even you see big red in the background
Starting point is 00:12:03 yeah man I know I told you I got the fucking visine I got the red out but I think she did some shit to my orange juice because I was fucking scratching the door six a.m. this morning what I'm deducing from this is that the lady he calls her big red right and then he made reference to her in his own video and
Starting point is 00:12:25 she gets up and leaves she's like I got to deal with this fucking lunatic all day that could have been like I was trying to get laid this morning I was just like yeah you know I wanted to like just go do something yeah he's one of those gross east coast people like big time Tommy he's like okay scratch no
Starting point is 00:12:50 door yeah I want to fall like you know I mean like they think they're being really funny and clever I mean being gross he's positive though no I like him yeah we're at the beach having a good time carol is the way you know it was a part of this one flying by me to see later oh shit I had
Starting point is 00:13:07 to swim in because they think I'm I swim so gracefully strong they think I'm part of the pod all right baby rock and roll today he works hard he's blowing it off you think so well here's why I don't think he's working hard and blowing off the steam he's got a library of videos fuck and they're all like that oh no he's
Starting point is 00:13:28 not just it's not just Sunday morning okay it is it is all the time it's all the time he's like all party guy oh yeah this is like Bert in 10 years okay let's yeah yeah yeah man good afternoon everybody there man look I got no my boy came from from San Fran to visit New York and he calls me up to come to
Starting point is 00:13:52 meet me when I saw me had a fucking Kool-Aid smile he's like shit what's from here to here he's gonna believe it what that's how he tells a story of like my story would go like so my friend wanted to come meet me yeah he came from San Francisco and he was really happy to be here this is everybody damn man
Starting point is 00:14:16 look I got my boy came from from San Fran to visit New York and he calls me up to come to meet me when I saw me had a fucking Kool-Aid smile he's like shit what's from here to here he couldn't believe it I thought he was coming from Brooklyn he went to Manhattan I'm in the Bronx but that shit's a hike so he said
Starting point is 00:14:35 his other trainers and get off bro I'll pick you up man I picked them up from the trades that he had the Kool-Aid smile he couldn't believe it but this is the way I am man tell her ask him I think he's tech talked I don't take talk dude you got to open an account bro you got to start putting
Starting point is 00:14:52 these on tiktok yeah this is I'm all around you saw blondie yesterday that girl's pretty as he has a fucking overachieve my whole life I always overachieve I can't sometimes pitch myself y'all you fat you fucking get ball how you get nice looking girls because like my parents told me I was
Starting point is 00:15:08 good because I think it okay can I tell you what actually a good point now he's right he's he's on point I believe what you're told about yourself but like that that actually is it that's a huge deal yeah it's a huge deal when you tell people things and you and you put it in their head and they believe it yeah like
Starting point is 00:15:23 he said he has enough self-awareness he's like I'm not a fucking supermodel but in my head I believe it I believe looking it's a very good philosophy yeah I'm exhausted listening to him what part what part like don't people like I have so much anxiety watching him pull up his instagram can I tell you
Starting point is 00:15:42 something Jean yeah because when I hear him talking I'm imagining that I have to listen to it yeah like that he's got there's a woman with him yeah all day I imagine I'm a hostage to this non-sense yeah and I have to be like yeah yeah that's the way he came and he had a kool-aid smile like I don't even know what
Starting point is 00:15:58 the kool-aid smile means he tells you his dumb stories yeah yeah but on the other hand aren't you a bit envious that he's this excited over nothing of course yeah that's the part where I was saying drugs are mental illness yeah yeah it's fucking I wish I could just get this stoked over picking my friend up at the
Starting point is 00:16:16 remember the name of his Instagram Jesus Christ with this oh my god I'm dropping the ball left and right today guys what is going on with you it's a holiday week you know it's just everything so it's your haircut yeah you got a tiktok haircut now you're acting all tick-tocked big time Tommy are you
Starting point is 00:16:38 looking for him right yes man it's like organic laundry or something pure organic dry cleaning oh he's that's the business yeah damn it oh my gosh this guy on the Bronx yeah there there it is he's on Instagram at pure organic dry cleaning oh my god oh my god this is him all day every every post he's thoroughly
Starting point is 00:17:04 stoked about nothing yeah yeah yeah good morning everybody let's go baby 6am let's get on that fucking double man no I gotta remember my house it's fucked up when I look in that mirror I tell people that shit we savvy it doesn't go get a good looking fucking off I get out of my mind now I got this
Starting point is 00:17:23 fucking head my boy made for me and I gotta hang it from the mirror and that's just talking to me it's called me I can't look at this but to me I'd rather everybody I need a nap no we have to do everybody you know what I got some Canadian follows I got pleaded I tell you people I fucking love everybody
Starting point is 00:17:47 everybody I go I told you take me out country Western night I put fucking straw between my teeth I'll be fucking live dancing do you think though he's a drug the ghost of Christmas future for Burt you think that that's kind of like what he's gonna be like yeah like in a few years he'll be like you know this
Starting point is 00:18:05 touring is too much but I like going out I like drinks and he'll just start like just no no what it is is the kids are in college and he's healing and are gonna go on the bus and this is just what he's gonna do now on the bus no responsibility yeah this guy is so exhausting I hate him like I'd hate to
Starting point is 00:18:25 be with him I can't I'd rather watch tech talk all day long and find the people I find he's Portuguese and I'm sure he's very proud of it and he has to tell you that you know I'm from Brazil I just a Portugal my parents came over when I was two years old they speak Portuguese yeah you kind of got it I know
Starting point is 00:18:45 he's gonna do that whole thing he's he's so Portugal pride baby this level of energy is so foreign to me that I can't even I can't even mimic it I don't like you know I mean like I can't pretend like I can do a little bit like hi guys do his big time I can do him a little bit he's a little more subdued yeah he's a
Starting point is 00:19:06 guy yeah this guy cocaine it's a combination of cocaine and tech talk together I think that's what every single one of these I'm out here at the beach and he's always another look at his how white is there oh shit because you can see that he darkened it right after yeah yeah oh yeah oh yeah nice and
Starting point is 00:19:28 easy but today's extra special man it's beautiful hey june 10 Monday I'll be at the Yankee making good what do you want me to say hi to you like I'm at the Yankee making everybody say hi to me I'm on Instagram oh hey yeah enough this guy's like that guy right haha he is my will give him guys I think I do
Starting point is 00:19:56 love cute little old fat guys like I think he's cute and he's adorable and I probably would like him in real life you probably would like I'd hug him be like hey crazy you probably have to apologize for have to shit you know but he does get exiled like I picture myself having to fly across the country
Starting point is 00:20:10 yeah I can't yeah he's okay what's this I just want to see that we can close it after this I want to see I'm done I'm just a positive I got a special guest today man only from Benson hurts this is all this is the best man in the chance no child labor to verify it your organic you bring whatever there is today turn
Starting point is 00:20:35 around maybe even sooner I'm done all the way from Benson where's that like that's another part of the Bronx or something it's like down the corner and they joke about it like he came all the way from Harlem but it's the same neighborhood it's not the same never you know you know what you mean like he
Starting point is 00:20:55 came from Santa Monica yeah to the valley yeah okay they love being like representing areas and stuff yeah sounds like it sounds like you wanted to put an end to that fun we were I can't I can't he shuts me down okay that's too bad it's too bad everybody all done thank you should we update our our fetish
Starting point is 00:21:24 friends for update you ready sure so we got first we got update we both got messaged by our initial contact Kay remember yeah she messaged I got kicked off of Instagram doing her foot fetish yeah got like they shut down selling photographs she was selling photographs well she but it was just like photos and
Starting point is 00:21:48 then she was like DM me for custom work mm-hmm then Instagram just like shut it down but what we've learned is that Twitter's a lot more forgiving take it to Twitter take it to Twitter Twitter's are cesspool you can sell buckets of jizz on Twitter they are ready they don't care Twitter has zero community guidelines
Starting point is 00:22:08 yeah right yep they'll show the cucumber challenge all day and every day also was a message by a number of guys are like I'm giving the foot thing a try yeah they're selling there they're trying to pay those bills with their feet with guy feet yeah there's like a whole we inspired a whole community it is what
Starting point is 00:22:30 the message that I got yeah so yeah you know I think you have to be careful you know I was surprised we had our pre-show meeting and Potter was like really laying the law down on how this is supposed to go and he said you know the correct hashtags are what's important so I think he's going to do a little
Starting point is 00:22:50 tutorial maybe what you should be doing that's a great idea and then I think we should have all the boys show us their feet and we can see who's the nicest foot mom fuck I'm gonna throw up who do you think has the worst feet of the people that work here definitely blue band right well you know
Starting point is 00:23:08 my suspicion always would be Josh on everything I know but then he you know he would be the first to admit it and he he said actually he said that his are alright so that means I believe him he would he wouldn't say it if it weren't true you're right and I do think that Josh hooks up with women and
Starting point is 00:23:25 therefore has to be a little cleaner than yeah I mean any hooks up so I think his feet are probably okay do you try to say that I don't know Nadav how many checks I just never hear you talking about your love life so I don't know yeah I mean you know I kind of keep it personal but yeah I do hook up with women wow and my feet
Starting point is 00:23:42 are not a deal breaker oh wow he's got that he's got like red toe hair yeah probably Jen's got red hair that red toe hair a little webbed your webbed feet I got some webbing I knew it are you guys gonna start selling custom videos I mean yeah if there's a demand for it all totally makes my
Starting point is 00:24:03 feet by blue I wonder which one of you guys would sell the most of those guys oh I know who has the worst feet it's gotta be Chris yeah why cuz I just believe it I think anything that you're like I wonder who's who's he's gonna be the guy standing in the back yeah who in his head he's like I'm definitely I've
Starting point is 00:24:27 definitely got it worse think so and that yeah and then like when it's time to show he's as long as you put like a better something on it he'll be like see give me that money might have the worst remember his ball hair yeah that's what nine inches that's what makes me think it might be him press because he had the
Starting point is 00:24:43 longest yeah long tube which means he's not really paying attention fucker had a tube like that yeah yeah it's nasty as hell now your feet are nice though I have nice feet actually speaking of feet I went I snuck out of the house we were gone this weekend and I was along with the kiddos and I snuck out to go get a
Starting point is 00:25:02 Chinese foot massage at this local place and it was kind of dicey like I walked in they were still doing construction instruction yeah it was like you know whatever put off plastic anyway I walk in and the lady behind the desk and she goes you want male female and I go female she goes we have a male and I was
Starting point is 00:25:24 like okay male and I normally don't like getting massaged by man she's Spanish I was just trying to peg the accent yeah they said a Tibetan foot massage any noodles I'm very skeptical of a male masseuse I don't generally don't like them and at the whole time I'm like when's this guy gonna do something weird
Starting point is 00:25:44 you know really been there yeah so he starts fending so many why male masseuse community yeah whenever you I'm not a pervert I don't care yeah I don't care so anyway he's rubbing both my shoulders right I'm sitting up in the chair and he's rubbing my shoulders and then all the sudden I feel one hand lift right
Starting point is 00:26:03 and now there's only one hand on one shoulder mm-hmm yeah so in my mind I'm like oh he's probably jacking his dick you really thought that I a hundred percent do he's just gonna stand there rub his shoulder and jack his dick yes because that's what guys do that's how nasty men are rub shoulder rubbing a
Starting point is 00:26:23 hundred percent but then I reminded myself I was like you know what in my the history of my life I've never seen a Chinese guy masturbate in public I've only ever seen old homeless white guys doing it and then in my head I was like you're not pervers isn't an old homeless white guy there yeah he's probably not
Starting point is 00:26:41 sure cuz I'm you know how many times you've ever seen like a Chinese guy jerk off in public it's just not culturally they don't do that that's true I haven't seen that right yeah I've seen a black I take a shit right and I've seen yeah I've seen a white guy play with himself and piss and shit white guys do
Starting point is 00:26:57 that it's usually white guys it's not the Asian part of our appeal yeah look at all the me too stuff all horny white guys pretty much not one Asian guy in that I haven't seen an Asian guy in the mix see but his he did a really great job and I'm gonna go back to him again because oh so what happened was it
Starting point is 00:27:16 wasn't that he was jerking off he was using two hands on one shoulder and then he would switch and do two hands but let's Heather let's have a real conversation about this I thought we did no no I'm saying let's say your suspicions are confirmed yeah and you turn and he's he's giving you a nice
Starting point is 00:27:35 shoulder rub with one hand and jacking off with the other hand do you say anything or just let it go no I get up and I go hey I whoa I go hey dude hey dude that you hit when I get panicked when something happens I usually go hey hey dude and then I get up and I I would get up and leave yeah I would I would
Starting point is 00:27:55 not you let him finish yeah if it was a really good yeah yeah yeah if it was if I was like Jesus man oh I'm really sinking into like falling asleep and then he's like almost done and I and I noticed and I just noticed he's just like he's like I'm not gonna shoot it on you I'm just gonna shoot it over in the
Starting point is 00:28:18 corner well that's the big question because that's that's what I kept thinking if he shoots it on you that's super disrespectful right for sure but if he just turns and is like it's over here well that's what I was thinking when I was thinking that he was masturbating I thought well where's he
Starting point is 00:28:32 gonna finish well in my head in my head I'd be like if I notice him masturbating I would just go he needs to get one out like I would understand I'd have empathy I'd be like he's backed up he's really got it figured out do you think he could do it at a better time he could but I'd be like he must really
Starting point is 00:28:46 need to get this one out so I forgive him would you forgive a guy for doing that no no if he's jerking off but he's like he's doing a really good job on your neck with the other hand he's really getting in there I mean if I can't see you know out of sight out of my there you go yeah I'd be alright
Starting point is 00:29:05 okay and I will can't hear it well I wanted I was I will admit that because I couldn't hear it and you can tell when a guy is jerking off because the rest of them shakes ever so slightly and I was like well I don't feel I don't feel like this shake so I'm like it's definitely not that I feel you have some
Starting point is 00:29:21 real intuition about how the body shakes ever so slightly I know that cuz like you know you've I've been around dudes you know jerking off since I was 15 I mean I've seen I've seen Latino guys jerking off in church when I was in Mexico in church I saw a man masturbating in a church in Mexico was he being chill about
Starting point is 00:29:42 or trying to was he mean was he like yeah he was like trying to look I was like 12 so he was making eye contact and masturbating I've seen a guy in Hungary on a bus jerking off I've seen white homeless guys what what what was that for guys jerking off okay what am I supposed to be anyways but I've never
Starting point is 00:30:06 seen an Asian guy be pervert never I've never had that that's what I would say yeah jerking off so weird when guys do that in public why I've seen a guy do it in the car remember in redondo white guys never Asian ever Asian and then you saw an interesting dick yesterday holy shit holy shit I saw one at
Starting point is 00:30:45 school yeah I went to pick up our older kid he's in class yeah and one of the other kids dad's yeah was wearing gray loose sweatpants it was a birthday party and yeah his kids birthday that's why the parents I was trying to leave out specifics oh sorry like that's kind of how well I will all the parents be at
Starting point is 00:31:05 the school I don't know but that mean like you know I just thought it was interesting that he chose to wear what you're gonna say at a like an event not just it wasn't just a casual pickup is what I'm saying like any cursory like hey yeah get my kid go out that's a different outfit I guess I mean I
Starting point is 00:31:24 didn't think of the outfit was that unusual it's different the outfit was only unusual because he has an animal in between his legs like the dude had your you ever go in a pool and seen a noodle like a thing you can sit on yeah like in a pool it's like a pool toy yeah he had one of those between his legs oh my
Starting point is 00:31:44 god this dick I'm not kidding you man it looked hmm it almost looked like it had the consistency of a three-quarters hard dick but it was totally flaccid I mean like it was thick it was like flapping around and he was there like I was there for 20 minutes but he was wearing sweat pants dude and every time he moved
Starting point is 00:32:07 now his dick and he would he would bend down by the kid and stand up and then his dick would pop up like this and I was like I kept looking at the other adults like are you guys seeing this fucking thing you guys see how big this guy's dick is I thought somebody was going to say something like hey man you
Starting point is 00:32:23 need this like sir yeah well because he clearly wasn't wearing panties dude put some jeans on or something you got to tie that thing down because he knows he's got to know course he knows yeah course he knows I think he I think he does it because he in not at school but I think in life in general he probably wants
Starting point is 00:32:39 people to know you know clearly I mean yeah I I think it's like a it was it seems like it's something you would do as a flex or you know he's got he's probably in his 40s he's just like this is how I live I've lived like this yeah was the Asian nope see nope see now you're definitely on point with your
Starting point is 00:32:58 Asian and yeah but he should have worn underwear under the sweatpants if he knew that's what he was pat he might have had like super loose underwear on he could have had that on box but this was like it it was it was a distraction like I almost said happy birthday to his dick I was so distracted you're like bought the
Starting point is 00:33:19 candle yeah I was like that too and I also like I immediately kept looking down at myself you know I was like Jesus it's gotta be six times the size of it six I mean it's that it seemed like it yeah I wish I why didn't I go to school with you I wish I would oh my god we would have had such I I'd never wanted you to
Starting point is 00:33:38 be with me more I I could picture me just be like and then you would have noticed it and then like I can't think of anything else right now I know yeah well that cuz I've seen big dicks in public like that under public ever all your stuff because men are disgusting where do you see the public big dicks
Starting point is 00:33:56 me too in public I've seen remember the guy in Miami we were on the beach one time yeah he kept playing it playing with it yeah yeah and flopping it wasn't like this though that was not like I remember that the Puerto Rican guys on the beach in Miami they run and they run in their dick shorts you know I
Starting point is 00:34:13 like it and they're medallions they fly up and hit them in the face when they run in stuff very Puerto Rican choice yeah to have shorts and chains they do and they jog on the beach shirtless with the chain and the in the dick move dick shorts that's why I like them so much yeah the combination of the two I
Starting point is 00:34:33 do what's cute what's cute about it it's just it's not a look you see on the west coast when I'm in Florida I appreciate it you're like oh Puerto Rican dick shorts yeah chains I don't mind seeing swinging dicks around I mean it didn't bother me yeah I just thought I guess the setting was like this is a
Starting point is 00:34:52 school I mean I was just like dude I mean I'm telling you I tried to show you I tried to catch some video I saw but that didn't fully capture what was going on I mean to give like I'm telling you this thing was like this thick okay and hanging was like six seven inches long a fucking hammer on him it's crazy now I
Starting point is 00:35:21 know why his wife kind of has a limp when she walks I was wondered how I understand he knew you think he knew what he was doing there at school I think it was thinking about a school let me tell you because I've got big big monster tits right yeah and I've I've had them pretty much my whole life
Starting point is 00:35:38 and I know when my boobs are out and when people can see them if I you know like you you're conscious you're cognizant of that stuff yeah he knows he's just nasty yeah maybe should report him report what do I do do I go to the principal I just want to tell you something yeah you know what's his names
Starting point is 00:35:57 dad got a real big dick and he's not shy about letting us know and then she would like did he expose himself nope I just think it was pretty obvious and then she questions all the other people and they're like we didn't notice anything yeah I'm like I believe me I couldn't have been the only one not how
Starting point is 00:36:20 do people not notice that kind of stuff I feel like that's all I notice in the world dude it was like I almost wanted to pull him aside and be like come on man yeah like here fucking dick at school yeah these are kids I know and they're all their heads are all they're all dick height for him yeah here's the other
Starting point is 00:36:37 thing he is a shorter super skinny guy so he's probably in super skin yeah he's probably five I don't know maybe five eight really yeah and make 130 maybe 140 pounds really really slender built very skinny guy amazing yeah you would never know fucking sledgehammer yeah yeah can you do I kind of want to see if
Starting point is 00:37:05 maybe him and his wife sell videos custom videos should you ask yeah I'll be like do you guys have like a Instagram or anything you guys are what just like I don't know do you guys ever you guys take requests or anything like for videos we're such douchebags do you realize that the way only notice the
Starting point is 00:37:28 horrible things in life like a normal person would have been like all that guy's dick is out I shouldn't look you were like I'm gonna take a video so that my wife can see it later real moist I think that's why we found like we found each other yeah cuz you're the only I always tell me I never fucked
Starting point is 00:37:51 your mom because I love the awful things in life too yeah I seek out the awful and I love it so I appreciate you yeah that's babe that's the whole foundation of this show that's why we have a podcast it's everything you're describing right now I know yeah I know okay well we have a lot to get to can we
Starting point is 00:38:15 show my tech talks for God's sakes alright I've been curating these painstakingly hold on what no I just want to make sure that we do we have time for everything before we we got a break here in a moment yeah I'd say we could spend about five or ten and then we have to get to the thing that we
Starting point is 00:38:36 prepped as well what thing that we prepped yeah oh yeah yeah okay so we can do that whatever you want about 20 okay okay okay so let's let's do quickly tell me what you want alright it's Christina's TikTok segment which is has exploded has its own Instagram following and people listen
Starting point is 00:39:08 the people really respond to my curations and I wish you would too all I'm saying is I've shown you some good things I have to hear these fucking tiktoks get right into it okay how many suicides does it take to realize of what you say online fucking matters so he mouthed right recorded pretty
Starting point is 00:39:31 bad at it well that's the key to a good tiktok yeah it was being bad at took me a while I was trying to sink it you're like holy shit this is terrible my dinner my dinner my dinner it's getting cold I'm gonna eat it now I'm sorry I'm not talking too long okay bye my his dinner looks good he's got
Starting point is 00:39:58 check fuck I see people I was around when they were in their prime and they sucked in fuck all this bullshit okay I can get behind this guy yeah I get behind him I like him a lot I like him I will say that there's a lot of variety in this batch like yeah I'm seeing all the lanes yeah to my husband
Starting point is 00:40:17 Thor's pizza rolls I want steak eggs bacon and another cup of coffee when I get home whoa love you she's got Josh Potter eyes oh those are a lot of gums to all right many go all right all of us are the grandchildren of the witches you didn't burn some of us are the spirits of the witches that you did
Starting point is 00:40:41 burn yeah I just keep quiet by the way can I don't for you're not appreciating go ahead just go we remember yeah she's gonna get you back okay did you pay attention to what she said to you she's gonna get you back yeah I got it you know how it is to find these gems
Starting point is 00:40:59 you're just dropping them on the floor you know how that was all this one's my favorite I want to tell you something I opened I opened a tiktok because she sent me one a horrible one and I swiped and then and I swiped and it was like some girl who's you know singing like a just a regular girl and then I'm like oh
Starting point is 00:41:20 I swiped again dude I couldn't find anything like this like in a hundred swipes nothing not one that's what I'm saying my curation is special yeah I wish you would fucking just give it the love keep this guy's my favorite I let's try to figure out what's going on here cuz I'm not sure just go ahead and play
Starting point is 00:41:38 this hey princess you look down are you okay did somebody hurt you mm-hmm oh I'm sure to hear that you tell us from daddy come here so I know it's creepy he does these series of things where he's like hey princess you look like you need what a hug and what accent is that I don't know this what he that's what he's doing
Starting point is 00:42:01 and he goes hey princess and then he's like do you want a piece of candy princess here you go all right this may be unbelievably uncomfortable I know that's the whole point of tick tock you're gonna make yourself uncomfortable I like it that's why I like it because I'm oh boy oh we're gonna skip over this guy
Starting point is 00:42:20 really I think there's music in here I'm gonna mute it just me yeah you're a sadist oh he's doing a lot he's mouthing along to a to a movie okay why I didn't know I couldn't and he's a he's a leather daddy he's got a leather vest on sleeveless leather vest no shirt he's got like a camo hat and a beard and kind
Starting point is 00:42:43 of looks like me if I took better care of myself and if you took poundings and you know dudes oh this one's good she's back the morning everybody today Saturday is really nice out here so all my family friends I want you have a blessed day and be safe me and my family we go into a movie I don't know what we're gonna see
Starting point is 00:43:01 then we're gonna go to Applebee and come home to rest I'm spent over my grandkids and my son sounds like a good day but yeah that's nice she's a nice lady god damn it fuck hey I'm looking for tiktok wife if you 18 I'll be open to talk to you in the car and tell me about yourself I see that as an open
Starting point is 00:43:29 invitation for you I'm not 18 you got your over 18 much over 18 maybe he'd like that now he's got the makings of a cool guy look at the smoke detector in the back angle the proposals absurd it's an absurd request for him wrong with you wrong with y'all please okay here's back again I know you
Starting point is 00:43:55 like him hello I'm making dinner I'm making dinner pancake things and sausage talk to you in a few okay bye I like him always sweet okay bye oh this one's neat yeah I'm making tacos for dinner it's gonna be good yummy she's funny right do you realize you're probably causing listener suicides
Starting point is 00:44:24 right now why I mean do you think that people want to hear this of course they do they've been writing that they love it at the end of it all right let's let's before we show that we show her the video that I sent you so we get like a little back and forth okay the tree trimming oh yeah you got to see
Starting point is 00:44:42 this this is a wild this is my here's my tick-tock okay okay all right here we go what the fuck happened there everybody's mortified Tom yeah that was terrible I know never see someone's head get knocked off did it get really knocked off yeah no yeah oh you're right dude
Starting point is 00:45:26 his head got knocked off oh babe this is terrible I can't unsee this oh it legit that you're being serious oh wait is it oh I thought just the helmet went off bro his head is gone bro oh no or his neck is snapped off for sure is it off is it severed it looks off from here yeah I prepped this really quick you know is
Starting point is 00:46:00 it not just the helmet it's at least the helmet at least wait but you can't tell you really can't tell in slow-mo can you tell huh it's his head severed yeah here we're going frame by frame okay all right so there's a helmet on I hear Josh laughing the hardest okay there's there's a helmet the helmets flown off
Starting point is 00:46:20 and then what's that thing above his head this looks like no neck no head is it real funny Tom whoops yeah I thought it was I thought it was I saw it at full speed I thought it was a helmet loss oh maybe that's his head Jesus okay at least I just like I like tiktok's on tiktok you like this is my tiktok yeah all right
Starting point is 00:46:53 guys let's take a list listener poll who's more messed up Tom or me definitely in our viewing habits oh yeah so we got to play this highlight here oh and so one of the big things that came out of the Theo episode from a few weeks ago obviously you know big Theo gate yeah huge episode it was good time but there
Starting point is 00:47:13 was one interaction where you told him when you actually first met him when you met him it was years ago I think it might have been like on a challenge or something was after my season of road rules and then in the late 90s and what happens is so Theo is in a season of road rules after me and what happens to to
Starting point is 00:47:33 promote the new the current season that's airing the season before goes to challenge the current season so it's like a way of passing the road rules on and so that's how I met him the first time and you went into the specific oh okay you went into specifics the Guadalajara you went into specifics on this during
Starting point is 00:47:51 the segment of your like when I met you I actually remember like holding your dog for a moment that's right because that's what I remembered of meeting Theo the first time because I'm a dog lover and I never forget a face when I meet a dog I love them so much and he had an adorable Chihuahua but on the
Starting point is 00:48:07 Winnebago okay but on when he came here and you brought it up that's right he vehemently denied that which was so bizarre because I remember wanting to hold his dog and then he wouldn't let me hold it and I was like this is so weird and I was surprised the producers let him have a dog on road rules obviously so
Starting point is 00:48:23 well remember it here's a reminder of here's how these interaction went with between you two on the on your mom's house you had a Chihuahua a little dog do you remember that little doggy you had somebody must have lent me it were you serious and I never had a small animal like that I mean I've had a
Starting point is 00:48:41 lot of smaller animals but nothing that you did have a Chihuahua and I remember I was like he's not letting me pet the dog because the dog was real skittish and you're like don't know don't don't pet this dog I've never had that so that wasn't even me but that wasn't oh my god I mean and I thought I
Starting point is 00:48:56 was going nuts because he kept denying I thought gosh well maybe maybe I was wrong and I was and then but then almost immediately when the episode came out this was sent to us yeah someone sent it to me like and the and the hashtag was believe women and that is that used to be his profile and that's the dog that's
Starting point is 00:49:15 the dog I met in Mexico when we met Theo in the cast so all I can say is that Theo gate ends but Chihuahua gate just started begins let Chihuahua gate began let it let the conversation begin so I don't know what's going on there I would like to get to the bottom of that of Chihuahua gate what's going on with
Starting point is 00:49:37 Chihuahua gate man I don't know let the conversation begin so bizarre all right well why is he hiding that Chihuahua I don't know what do you think happened there I don't know dude speaking of wild shit you have got to see this clip now I don't know how the audio will translate but the video is
Starting point is 00:49:59 really something um this guy what is bathing fully in a septic tank why because he's a cool guy oh look at him oh it's fetish I'm gonna throw up tell the people what's happening though I don't want to I don't like it it's a guy wearing like a fetish mask in the fetish plastic outfit and
Starting point is 00:50:29 he's in a pool of kaka and peepees and he's bathing it and he's rubbing his eyes because the eye holes are open he's like bathing in kaka I mean in in huge I can't I cannot a huge pool of diarrhea and shit piss vomit everything he's just rubbing it on his face and he's got the eyeballs cut out of that mask so the
Starting point is 00:50:52 that's going in is he's got a pink eye for sure at the least not hepatitis thank you for sharing this needs to be on oh oh what is that probably like a tampon or I mean it's Tom that's a great video thanks that's pretty wild you sent this to me yeah four years that I've worked with you yeah
Starting point is 00:51:17 this was the only time I came close to puking and prepping something for the show legit had a very difficult time and he looks just made no one in this room was able to look at the screen traumatized he was switching everything blind traumatized I don't know why but nothing makes me happier than hearing
Starting point is 00:51:35 that you know I mean you've got see I like weirdos you like traumatizing people you enjoy misery yeah can we do one thing before we go in the mid-roll yeah somebody made online is it mr. clavicles yeah yeah yeah fantastic montage of all the highlights from your
Starting point is 00:51:55 mom's house all over the years like a few of great yeah I just wanted to share I I thought it was just so funny it was cool and he used a song from your mom's house as the bed of music yeah and it's a tribute to to Theo our dog yeah are you please give me cock come here little
Starting point is 00:52:13 tickle you ting-tong ting-tong oh my god fuck this shit fuck diamonds in the crevice the vegan for china all for you it gets bigger when I pull this is just who I am
Starting point is 00:52:37 fuck your wife just like the gays mother fuck this shit stupid white bitch I don't like that baby man you want to fuck with my on his truth yes I would really like that
Starting point is 00:52:49 hi america it's hard fucking poor and that's fucking oh shit man here and then he tickles fucking dogs huh our dad had taught us not to be ashamed of our white niggers
Starting point is 00:53:04 OMG you are completely retarded hey man that was great wow that was great what a beautiful montage of our work mr underscore clavicles thanks for making that
Starting point is 00:53:16 wow that was really great we're doing the lord's work on this show go ahead gotta tell you what's up with the tour July 23rd I'm in Rochester Minnesota
Starting point is 00:53:33 yeah where the mayo clinic is oh I'm at that home set at county fair excited Chad Daniels and josh potter on the show with me the next day
Starting point is 00:53:44 24th I'm in appleton wisconsin 25th rockford illinois 26 peoria 27th cedar rapids and 28th evansville it's a bus week what what shortly thereafter
Starting point is 00:54:00 wilkesbury pa terry town albany foxwoods hampton beach and burlington and then I go to canadia that's the country to the north of us and up there
Starting point is 00:54:14 I will hit london two shows in toronto two in winnipeg two in vancouver and calgary calgary sold out that is uh august 18th get your tickets to those and all the other days coming up
Starting point is 00:54:26 doing europe hitting a bunch of cities in europe tomcigura.com slash tour and I recently added a show in what is it grand rapids so come holler at your boy tomcigura.com slash tour
Starting point is 00:54:40 jean now while you're in canada will you be eating the mcdonald's tomato mozzarella chicken sandwich maybe maybe if they uh i mean mcdonald's does have a great menu up there yeah
Starting point is 00:54:53 yeah it's a canadian favorite okay my tour uh august 2nd and 3rd salt lake city utah september 5th milwaukee september 6 chicago september 7th boston october 3rd through 5th
Starting point is 00:55:07 nashville november 22nd seattle and the 23rd portland horrigan go to christina p online for tickets also if you haven't seen my two netflix specials please check out the degenerates
Starting point is 00:55:18 it's a half hour and my our mother inferior oh and check out my new podcast dropping july 8th where my mom's at a podcast by and for real moms only that's what's up all right
Starting point is 00:55:33 you ready to I have whiz let's do it your mom's house will be right back it is my great pleasure to welcome our next guest a hall of famer legitimately a pioneer of hip hop
Starting point is 00:55:48 and an all around great guy daryl dmc mcdonald's thank you very much thank you thank you for having me this is wild man appreciate it I mean you know I was thinking back all like I've loved hip hop my whole life
Starting point is 00:56:03 and um my first two tapes because I bought cassette tapes when I when I was a kid that I I purchased where the fat boys wow fat boys incredible yeah man that was like
Starting point is 00:56:18 and like to to see that you're here right now is isn't is incredible and we're introducing our three-year-old son to records and run dmc was the first one of the first ones we bought oh the vinyl the vinyl yeah we got
Starting point is 00:56:32 oh nice oh that's awesome you're so nice yeah I know you're too nice how are you so famous and so nice yeah well I don't think I'm famous yeah that's if you think you're famous then you're not nice
Starting point is 00:56:43 if you don't think you're famous you know it doesn't affect you you know what I was thinking about today like just as knowing that I was going to see you here I was like it actually like hit me like oh yeah you didn't have hip hop
Starting point is 00:56:55 to list like you created a genre which is I well I don't too much we didn't really create it but but I'm saying we are part of that you elevated we were what happened with us was that we became the physical embodiment
Starting point is 00:57:12 the representatives of hip hop prior to us what we were doing and where it was going yeah and you know for me I never wanted to be in show business
Starting point is 00:57:25 really yes now run run saw hip hop grew up in his living room his brother Russell before rap records was made Russell was one of the promoters that saw the DJs in the streets in New York and was like wow
Starting point is 00:57:39 every time they play the park or the block party a thousand people shows up yeah so Russell wasn't the only one but he was one of the promoters that said I'm gonna move this indoors I'm gonna go rent the PL give the PL his hundred dollars
Starting point is 00:57:54 pay the DJ a hundred dollars and then charge the people who are seeing it for free yeah five dollars to see it inside now yeah and put my name on the fly and call myself rush productions
Starting point is 00:58:06 yeah so run was seeing that in his living room Russell managed Curtis Blow godfather hip hop Jimmy Spicer who deigning he did shows he worked with Grandmaster Flash and all that
Starting point is 00:58:20 so run was a little kid seeing that this was a business right so run was like I could get rich and famous off this I could make money I could get a mansion rose Royce everything that you see run doing now right yeah
Starting point is 00:58:32 he saw the hip hop was going to get him that yeah for me hip hop was it was make believe and what I mean by that was I was in the comic books I went to catholic school my whole life right
Starting point is 00:58:45 you know I'm saying I love these comic books I was one of those kids that when that street like come on you have your ass in this house yeah that's similar with me that was me so you know and you hear to other kids outside playing like eleven thirty at midnight
Starting point is 00:58:57 and it wasn't that old their parents don't care about it I was like they're lucky that they could be out there you know I'm saying I'm eight nine and ten and the little five your kid is outside at midnight playing
Starting point is 00:59:09 yeah that's crazy you know I'm saying so I had to find things to do I went to catholic school my whole life but so my world was these comic books you know I'm saying I started with Batman then I discovered Marvel
Starting point is 00:59:23 Stan Lee Rustin peace he was a genius he put the superheroes really in New York yeah so what that did for me it didn't make it make believe anymore
Starting point is 00:59:33 right it made it real yeah so my whole life prior to music was Marvel comic books Captain America the Hulk Spider-Man the Avengers the whole nine read collect draw
Starting point is 00:59:45 read collect draw read collect draw that's all I did by me always reading comic books made me a good reader in school so I was a honor roll student which I'm very proud of to this day
Starting point is 00:59:59 yeah always on the honor roll it was it's funny there's still torments me to this day there was two girls that I could never beat
Starting point is 01:00:09 Nadine Welch and Deborah Hamilton wow you stuck with me but I was always the only guy up there with them the smartest kids in the schools you know when when I would get a minus
Starting point is 01:00:20 they would get a plus yeah yeah but I would get a B they would get the A minus could never defeat them but since I was always reading comic books made me a good student
Starting point is 01:00:30 so that was my life from kindergarten to seventh grade then in seventh grade something crazy happened to me this thing called hip hop comes over the bridge from the Bronx now I didn't know what it was
Starting point is 01:00:45 at first at at the time by the way are you a music fan like do you like no I can't it's that's another funny question I didn't have a music that was mine because that was my mother
Starting point is 01:00:56 that when I was a kid my mother and father were still young so Marvin Gaye Al Green a reef of Franklin Stevie Wonder
Starting point is 01:01:07 that's what's played at house yeah black soul music in the 70s 60s and 70s Motown that was my mother and father's music oh right that's not yours I'm a kid I don't care nothing about love and girls
Starting point is 01:01:18 girls are yucky right how many comic books yeah yeah so for me the music the only music then I thought was me was classic rock so-called classic rock now
Starting point is 01:01:30 in folk rock 70s the Beatles the Stones Harry Chapin Joni Mitchell Bob Dylan or Jim Croci
Starting point is 01:01:39 you're getting into all this cross me stills young and nasty Zeppelin right because soul music and even at the time in the 70s disco that was the adult that was you know the grown-up things to do yeah
Starting point is 01:01:50 as a kid I didn't have a music but when I heard rock there was just something about the rock drums was heavier so you love that stuff the guitars was going again so rock music was like superheroes to me
Starting point is 01:02:02 holy shit and then the folk music was like social studies or history in school because even though these dudes were big rock stars most of the music was about politics you know neo-young
Starting point is 01:02:18 cross me stills nascent young they were talking about the government and women's right and silver so the rock and the folk rock guys was singing in addition to singing about sex and loves and drugs
Starting point is 01:02:30 they were singing about stuff that I could relate to as a student right because Marvin Gaye and in Al Green and then they were said I want to travel give us get it
Starting point is 01:02:40 I don't want to know how I'm gonna do that if you're up here yeah but you know when I heard neo-young it was um ten soldiers and nixons coming it's fine John Lennon sleeping naked
Starting point is 01:02:50 to protest the war John Fogarty fortunate son so as a kid that's smart oh you know that got my attention right compared to you know
Starting point is 01:02:59 I didn't care none of my ABC I care nothing about high heels no true story I care nothing about high heels and afros and dashikis no kid nothing about that which is something about the folk rock
Starting point is 01:03:13 that attracted me so that's what I had so here's what happened um in seventh grade this kid had a tape recorder um cassette remember the flat not box
Starting point is 01:03:27 or boom box right right flat cassette tape recorders yeah put it in front we're in a five remember those things bam yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:03:34 this kid named Billy Morris had one and Billy was in eighth grade so me and two other my friends from St. Pascal Baylor Elementary School we was in the schoolyard playing basketball
Starting point is 01:03:46 on a one rim that the school the catholic school had because you gotta understand something if you go to catholic school you can't go to the public park because you got a bag that says st. Pascal baylor elementary
Starting point is 01:04:01 wear uniform right the public school kids are going to get you oh right of course so I got bully teased and picked on
Starting point is 01:04:08 I got my lunch money taken till I got smart enough to put it in my sock under my foot wow so they couldn't hear it jingle so they would know
Starting point is 01:04:19 check the ankles yeah like yeah exactly so life was miserable with me so we was in the park playing on a one rim that was in there for the poor little catholic school kids
Starting point is 01:04:29 and Billy Morris in the eighth grade he goes yo come in so you know how you are you know nerdy geeky kids act like you don't hear them
Starting point is 01:04:39 yo then he hit you with the I ain't gonna say it again so now you know you're in trouble your ass is grass so it's three of us I was a smart kid
Starting point is 01:04:47 always thought so I said you know and I'm not violent I'm not in a gang enough I'm a nerdy catholic school kid yeah a comic book kid
Starting point is 01:04:55 yeah so I tell my two friends though it's three of us and one of him if we try we probably went and did nothing but if he tries anything we go and jump his ass
Starting point is 01:05:03 so we walk over to Billy and Billy just says he pulls his tape recorder out his tote bag and says check this out and he pushes plate and the beat goes
Starting point is 01:05:14 doosh dash de goosh de goosh dash goosh goosh dash
Starting point is 01:05:18 de goosh and then the voice goes when you mess around in New York town you go down with the disco chiba clown you go down
Starting point is 01:05:27 you just keep the pep in your step you don't stop till you get on the mountain top and when you reach the top you reach your peak that's when you hear Eddie Chiba speak
Starting point is 01:05:37 and it stopped and it was all staticky and stuff like that we said do that again he did it again we stood in that schoolyard for three hours listening to
Starting point is 01:05:46 whatever that was I didn't even know what it was but it just felt so good yeah that's what I'm telling you yeah not to I just
Starting point is 01:05:54 I'm so excited because that's the first time I heard run DMC when I lived in this apartment complex and it was by the basketball courts and the older kids had the cassette tape do
Starting point is 01:06:05 it was older than me and they were listening to run DMC and it was like you be ill in I'm like what the fuck is this man exactly
Starting point is 01:06:13 Ryan it blew your mind and it was just it was just my DNA structure every molecular it's crazy it was just me
Starting point is 01:06:21 and then I just hit Billy with the yo can I hold that motherfucking no Gary Mcdonald you know I'm saying this and then I was like yo Billy man
Starting point is 01:06:29 you can have my mother I'll give you the keys to my father's car you can take over he was like holy shit he was like ew
Starting point is 01:06:36 what now so but he saw that I really wanted it so it was a Friday afternoon back in school Monday over the weekend Billy let me hold this day wow
Starting point is 01:06:45 so I just went home I listened to that from Friday night all the way till Sunday I think it was about 8 30 when I fell asleep then I woke up and the next day
Starting point is 01:06:54 was back in school I gave it back to Billy and then I paid no attention to it because that little thing it was just that experience I didn't know what it was but for Friday night
Starting point is 01:07:05 all the way to Sunday gave it back to Billy it was gone but because of that tape now I notice summertime because of the tape I started to notice
Starting point is 01:07:16 oh that's what they do at the block parties in the park the DJs would come the thing that was on the tape see I was still a kid though right right I'm riding my bike my skateboard
Starting point is 01:07:25 my comic books I didn't care about the loud music the music was so loud but I'm a kid life is adventurous I don't care about this but because of the tape now I'm noticing the DJs
Starting point is 01:07:36 DJ in the park and stuff like that so that was my introduction to hip hop still didn't give a shit about it it was my comic books and Bruce Lee movies and Adam's family
Starting point is 01:07:47 and I dream of Jeannie because we used to watch I Dream of Jeannie to get our sexual fantasies I'm sure I'm a farmer I used to use the added lessons looking at that
Starting point is 01:07:57 but the thing that got me to partake in hip hop was now the DJs are doing the parks in the block parties so now the older kids all want to be like the DJs in the neighborhood now
Starting point is 01:08:13 right so Booby Long on Anthony Wallace was the first two older kids in my neighborhood to get turntables and stuff like that so my brother
Starting point is 01:08:23 who wrote ran with Booby and them wanted to get turntables so we had a problem he had a problem we didn't sell weed so we had no money see the kids
Starting point is 01:08:33 and sold drugs got everything sneakers and Adidas and Pumas and bikes and and gazelles and Adidas suits the kids
Starting point is 01:08:42 and didn't sell drugs if you didn't sell drugs or do stick ups or rob houses you broke yeah and I'm saying so my brother
Starting point is 01:08:49 he had to get turntables like Booby and Anthony so he comes up with this idea yo Darryl come here come here little bro we're gonna do a comic book sale so we could get enough money to get two turntables in a mixer
Starting point is 01:09:01 and I'm like okay cool so we do a comic book sale and check this this was why the story is significant so we make our own flyers with the loose leaf paper to make damn news
Starting point is 01:09:11 brothers are doing a comic book sale you know what I'm saying so the doorbell's ringing we pulling in some money now you know nine dollars ten dollars we just need we needed a $40 mixer
Starting point is 01:09:20 and we needed a $30 turntable to go with the high-five stereo set that our parents already had right so the doorbell was ringing kids from all over the neighborhood was coming
Starting point is 01:09:31 the doorbell rings are opening is Joseph Simmons the kid from the other class and minister in Harold right and that's runs he turned no run is Joseph
Starting point is 01:09:41 oh okay right but he has another brother besides Russell Simmons and then another brother yeah but this that wasn't even in the Elers yet Joseph comes buy comic books
Starting point is 01:09:49 and go home it's significant because we reunite later so me and my brother we get the two turntables and we get the mixer so now we got our own set
Starting point is 01:09:58 in the basement you know what I'm saying it wasn't as expensive as the dude who said was selling weed they had the the quanters and the techniques
Starting point is 01:10:06 and stuff like that we had some bullshit fake would be be a source but we was able to do the hip hop thing so my brother brings home rappers delight
Starting point is 01:10:15 yeah man now the thing that's in the streets is on record now y'all remember rappers like this yeah of course light blue with the rainbow on it
Starting point is 01:10:24 oh what the hell is that hip hop to heaven it was a long ass record too so long like fucking 15 minutes yeah real long so me being a smart kid and I'm saying
Starting point is 01:10:34 because I got an imagination of comic books and I'm you know I'm a good student because I'm reading the comic books I listen to rappers to like two or three times and the only reason
Starting point is 01:10:42 I cared about it was because of the Superman run he's the man with the S on his chest can you fly all through the night are you able to rock a party to the early night I can satisfy you with his
Starting point is 01:10:55 look he can satisfy you with his little worm but I can bust you out with my super spin so oh shoot there's a guy talk I didn't know his rap I was like
Starting point is 01:11:03 there's a guy talking about Superman so that made it cool so I learned rappers like from beginning to end so now in a neighborhood that creates a problem because now if it's not on the radio
Starting point is 01:11:14 if it's not a block party all the bully kids Darrell come over here motherfucker sing rappers to life I had to do all the way to the end because I knew how to do it oh my gosh imagine me learning rappers to
Starting point is 01:11:28 like I'm doing it for the whole neighborhood you're doing it for that whole summer 12 minutes at a time but you're also practicing I'm learning there but I'm not knowing
Starting point is 01:11:35 I'm thinking I want to go home motherfucker you can't leave till you finish but what was it in you that wanted to memorize rappers like story telling story telling because it's
Starting point is 01:11:44 by the way it's an opus that is not it's story telling when you said joseph I thought you were talking about Danny Danny's the artist
Starting point is 01:11:51 that's the other brother that's what I thought when you said it no joseph Simmons yeah me and run wasn't friends when we was little so you didn't he was just
Starting point is 01:11:58 we went to the same school he was always in the other class you're in the same school he's in the other I was always in the smart class he was in he was in he was always in
Starting point is 01:12:07 in our catholic school was one one and one two the two class one one one two two one two two all the way up to eighth grade I was always in the two classes because I was in the morning
Starting point is 01:12:16 he bought when he buys those comic books he just buys them and buys them and then how long until you guys like from that point till you guys hook up
Starting point is 01:12:25 yeah that was that was two years yeah rappers the light came out in 79 so that went down I got rappers the light
Starting point is 01:12:36 and then I heard on a cassette tape a live performance of this DJ called Grandmaster Flash and he was taking Sheik's Good Time song
Starting point is 01:12:49 all right good times boom boom ba da ba dum boom boom boom good times boom boom ba da ba dum boom
Starting point is 01:12:57 and he kept making it go good times so you gotta imagine what the fuck how the hell is he throwing it then he said good time
Starting point is 01:13:03 good time go how the hell is he making then he said then he broke it down a good good good he made it go good good how the hell is he doing it
Starting point is 01:13:11 oh that's my brother's like that's the quits mix thing so now I got turntables I ran down in the basement I'm trying to do what flat
Starting point is 01:13:17 and I get it you get it I do so now in my mind I become because he was Grandmaster Flash I become
Starting point is 01:13:26 Grandmaster Get High they're suggesting my world and my basement because you don't need reef or alcohol because my music will intoxicate you so that's what I mean it was make believe
Starting point is 01:13:37 the same way I used to pretend I put my favorite blanking on and run through the house I'm Batman I'm Superman I was just pretending to be that
Starting point is 01:13:44 I don't do this right though rappers the light does it flash and I'm do it so then my brother brings home this red
Starting point is 01:13:52 because remember rappers the light was light blue with the rainbow on it it's very attractive when you look at the sugar hill logo right
Starting point is 01:13:59 then my brother comes home it's just this bland red labeled record that said enjoy records in order it said Grandmaster Flash oh that's the guy from the tape thing and the fur is five
Starting point is 01:14:11 I was like what the hell is that about so we put the needle on it now remember we talked about rappers the light was three guys rapping long
Starting point is 01:14:19 one guy rapper hour next guy rapper hour other guy rapper hour other guy rapper another hour and then it's over but this record this is what changed my life I'm Grandmaster Get High
Starting point is 01:14:30 first pretending in my basement I put the needle on this record rappers the light opened up like it it was a hip hop which was blew your mind when you heard that
Starting point is 01:14:40 because we never heard this but this record I put the needle on this it's a Grandmaster Flash in the first five you know with the dust this shit said it was a party night
Starting point is 01:14:52 everybody was breaking the house was screaming and the bass was shaking and it won't be long till everybody knowing that flash is on the B box going and I'm like what the fuck what the shit
Starting point is 01:15:03 and then it goes and shana na and then the voice goes Italian, Caucasian, Japanese Spanish, Indian, Negro, Vietnamese, M.C. Disjakejo
Starting point is 01:15:16 fly kids for the young ladies and then the beat drops and they say introducing the crew you gotta see to believe and then five different voices we're one, two, three, four five MCs one voice said
Starting point is 01:15:25 I'm Melly Mel and I rock it so well and then the second dude said and I'm Mr. Ness because I rock the best and then the third dude said Raheem and all the ladies dreaming
Starting point is 01:15:34 and then the fourth dude said cowboy and I make it jump for joy and then the fifth dude said Creole and then the other fourth dude said solid gold kid Creole playing the role dig this
Starting point is 01:15:44 where the fur is five plus grandmaster flash giving you a blast a show enough class so to prove to you all that was second to none we're gonna make five MCs sound like one
Starting point is 01:15:54 give me a pin that's me running through the house mommy, mommy give me a I gotta do that and I just sat down and started writing rhymes that day I became easy D
Starting point is 01:16:03 because my name is Darrell it starts with a D but it's easy for me to do this easy D so I just started writing rhymes easy D is like hey by the way that's a pretty
Starting point is 01:16:10 that's a good name I like it it's really good yeah it's a really good name so I became grandmaster get high and easy D all in one
Starting point is 01:16:18 right so here's where run comes in in eighth grade we're in eighth grade now remember the one rim in the school yeah so in eighth grade out of nowhere
Starting point is 01:16:29 I mean I made it from Kindergarten all the way to eighth grade without any new students coming to the school all of a sudden in eighth grade this guy David McEachin I'll never forget
Starting point is 01:16:40 this new student comes he's seven feet tall he probably wasn't that tall but he was like tall and in Jabbar but he was but he wasn't but he was to us
Starting point is 01:16:48 right he dumps on the one rim in the schoolyard and he breaks it whoa so we oh that was incredible no we cry
Starting point is 01:17:00 we can't go to the park now but hold on behold I got the best parents ever my father put a basketball rim in my in my backyard so now the kids usually 10, 11, 12 kids would come to my backyard
Starting point is 01:17:12 to play basketball after school one particular day Joseph Simmons comes along with his basketball holding his curly hair we play basketball and then usually when we played basketball in the backyard
Starting point is 01:17:23 I would go and get the Dixie cups remember Dixie cups yeah and I get the pitcher water because the rule was when there's no adults home what's the rule you can't have no company
Starting point is 01:17:36 right so this particular day because usually I bring the water I'll give the kids in the back and go home just particularly it was just Joe I let him in the house
Starting point is 01:17:43 to get the water it was 3 30 my parents don't get home before come on in and get the water so when he comes in he sees me and my brother's turntables and he goes yo do you do that
Starting point is 01:17:53 and I go no because it's my secret he's supposed to know that yeah and then he goes yo my brother's Russell Simmons you ever see the rush flyers that's up on the telephone poles
Starting point is 01:18:01 and I'm like yeah I see that well my brother he works with flash and this so now it's becoming interesting so he's telling me about when rum was 12 years old when it was in school during the summertime
Starting point is 01:18:14 Russell would allow run to go rap and play and DJ on a Curtis Blow show run was the son of Curtis Blow 12 years old Curtis Blow would go I'm gonna break my disco son DJ run out here and he's gonna put on a show for you come on in and run would come out at 12 years old
Starting point is 01:18:30 say a rum and DJ's cutest thing in the world 01:18:33,060 --> 01:18:34,420 because you remember if you remember hip-hop hip-hop was a hybrid of disco right the early the fat boys before they were the fat boys
Starting point is 01:18:41 was the disco three really I didn't know yeah if you listen to they even had disco style yeah just in there I'm the disco man yeah yeah well Blondie too
Starting point is 01:18:50 does a rap on whatever the punk rockers yes and the hip-hopers took over the discos after the discos went out of business I woke up one day and all over the world
Starting point is 01:19:01 there was this saying disco sucks yeah yeah and it died that day but another man's trash is a trash isn't one man's trash is another man's trash
Starting point is 01:19:11 they threw away all that music and the DJ's hopped it up because it was always baselines for the rappers and the MCs to say on so rum was Curtis Blow's disco son he's telling me all of that so what we would do is
Starting point is 01:19:22 he would come to my house we get out of school two ten we'd get to my house it was five minute walk by two fifteen play basketball until three fifteen and then from three fifteen took quarter to four
Starting point is 01:19:35 I would let him in the house and we'd go in the basement and DJ so I taught run how to do the flash quit he knew how to DJ but he didn't know how to do the flash hey right so I told him
Starting point is 01:19:43 and one plain and simple here's where it all began he picks up my school books who I was writing my rhymes at and he was like oh Darryl you wrote all of this and I was like yeah it's like a hobby and just
Starting point is 01:19:53 was like oh this is really good and then he looks at me this is an eighth grade and he goes when my brother Russell lets me make a record I'm putting you in my group so I just look at him
Starting point is 01:20:05 it was like a formal language I was like what the fuck did you just say to me what the fuck and went in one in there out there because I don't do that it was just a thought
Starting point is 01:20:13 right so ninth grade we graduated from St. Pascal Balon run and soon to be out DJ later Jason Marzell Jam Master J
Starting point is 01:20:22 they went to Andrew Jackson High School in Queens five minute walk from where we lived at I took three trains and two buses to travel from Queens
Starting point is 01:20:32 all the way to Harlem to go to an all boys Catholic High School called Rice High School 124th Street and Lenox Avenue and in the heart of Harlem so ninth grade
Starting point is 01:20:43 tenth grade eleventh grade twelfth grade I'm a good student fine colors I sent out my resume I get accepted to St. John's University
Starting point is 01:20:52 I come home I pick the letter up and says you were proud to inform you have been accepted to prestigious St. John's University so the first thing I did before I even ran until my mother was ran
Starting point is 01:21:03 in the basement wrote a rhyme about it I'm DMC in the place to be I'm going to St. John's University since Kenny Garner not quite the knowledge at the 12th grade
Starting point is 01:21:13 and we're straight to college so I wrote the rhyme so that was June of 82 I was the class of 82 graduated June of 82 in August of 82 the phone rings it's Joe
Starting point is 01:21:26 yo remember four years ago when I said if I make a record I'm putting you in the group yeah grab your rhyme books we're going to studio to make a record
Starting point is 01:21:33 so we went to the studio and we made this like that it's like that and that's the way it is that's the jam and we made sucker MCs what and that's how I got in
Starting point is 01:21:44 so even then I still like Joe knew what he was doing Russell's his brother yeah Curtis blow Joe's like yo we going to be famous
Starting point is 01:21:52 I'm going to die myself records and I'm going to do the music thing to me being in the studio and this is how crazy I am now to this day when I first went because remember
Starting point is 01:22:02 I was just doing it in my basement so when Run took me they took me to Green Street recording studio on Green Street right off a house then in the city and we go down in the studio
Starting point is 01:22:14 and I'm seeing all of the board and all the electronics and stuff like that I start pretending I shrunk down and I'm inside of the boombox right you know I'm here yet
Starting point is 01:22:24 the imagination so I'm in there I go in and I put my rhymes down and Russell takes the record shops it everybody turns us down but we end up on this little label called profile records
Starting point is 01:22:36 wait no hold on back up okay so how do you get to on this dorky kid in my basement I go to record and it you know what I mean like you and then it's like that
Starting point is 01:22:47 and that's the way like how the fuck do you guys come up with that when Joe when Joe put me in the group Joe Joe he saw okay this guy he saw okay this guy writes really good rhymes
Starting point is 01:22:58 he got all of these fucking comic books so he must have an imagination yeah and he get good grades so he's smart he's not gonna fuck off so originally Run was right
Starting point is 01:23:07 Run was gonna be a solo artist but he saw that I had something that could assist with his journey so the way that Jay comes into this that wasn't until after we made it's like that circumstance okay but they wasn't even they know each other though right
Starting point is 01:23:19 yeah Run and Jay you know each other from playing basketball in the parks and Run would go get on the mic at the block party okay you know I knew rappers the light yeah
Starting point is 01:23:29 back and forth my cadence and him I'm not getting on a mic nobody's seen me do that you know what I'm saying because it was my world you're kind of insecure about it at first yeah
Starting point is 01:23:38 but no not even that it's my world it's my thing yeah yeah you know what I'm saying you're right all the rhymes that you heard since I've been in them
Starting point is 01:23:45 wasn't for y'all here right this is for me you only got to hear because Run made me put him on a damn record he for me yeah you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:23:52 so um um um Jay didn't come till later so we we did this like that we did circumseize and um we put the we get a record deal so Russell goes crazy okay y'all you know we got a record deal on profile
Starting point is 01:24:07 record the record comes out I was actually in my I was in my second semester at St. John's University it's crazy in August we went to make the demo now to me it's done no we made the demo
Starting point is 01:24:18 I'm gonna shop it the only goal back then was to get the record played on Mr. Magic or Red Alert I remember kids I blow kids mind I speak at a lot of middle schools
Starting point is 01:24:28 and high schools I said y'all don't understand some hip hop was only on the radio Friday and Saturday night yeah and LA had it a little better than us
Starting point is 01:24:37 because y'all had K-Day y'all had an all hip hop we didn't have New York well we didn't have that that's wild to think about the New York where it came from and we didn't have it
Starting point is 01:24:45 it was only Friday and Saturday nights so the goal was to get Mr. Magic or Red Alert to play the record so that happened for us you know what I'm saying and you think at this point when that's played are you like
Starting point is 01:24:56 well that was a fun thing to do done on with my life I'm successful because Mr. Magic played me I'm in school now I'm in St. John's University I pick business management
Starting point is 01:25:06 because not because I wanted to be business management my best friend growing up was this guy named Douglas Hayes we call him if you listen to our rock box song the run DMC rock box song
Starting point is 01:25:17 and we go butter love now they called him butter because he was a fat black kid that could play basketball really really really good butter came up along with Mark Jackson infamous Mark Jackson from the Knicks St. John's University
Starting point is 01:25:31 Chris Mullin so people would come to the parks to see Mark play and score 40 but they because Mark was JV junior varsity you know Doug was varsity people wait to see butter score 50 so butter was my best friend
Starting point is 01:25:43 from kindergarten all the way up till we got to college so butter was the guy that told me pick business management and pick St. John's okay you do what he said
Starting point is 01:25:54 I do whatever the butter said run down a block naked okay like he was just really one of my best friend ever and stuff so I get St. John's University I'm starting to realize
Starting point is 01:26:05 oh man this is crazy because it's saying like school it's not like high school why in college nobody helps you yeah I was alone on the campus at St. John's University scared to death the first thing I did
Starting point is 01:26:18 I ran to the payphone called butter up yo Doug it's the first day of school where you at I'm sweet man I ain't got no classes today man matter of fact I ain't got no classes with your ass click so I'm scared to death
Starting point is 01:26:33 yeah I don't like accounting I don't like bookkeeping I'm like nothing that has to do with business management so I go damn I gotta change my major my mother gonna hate my ass
Starting point is 01:26:44 you know what I'm saying because my thing was all I can do is draw I didn't even think about music I didn't say I'm a great writer all I can what can you do Daryl I can draw
Starting point is 01:26:56 comic books and cartoons really good so I was gonna change my major to anything that had to do with art graphic design architecture oh parents don't like that oh no no but here's the worst thing
Starting point is 01:27:06 and if I don't like that I'm dropping out of school and I'm gonna just draw the funnies in the local newspaper oh my god so that's where I was at I come home and I'm like hey mom remember that day in August
Starting point is 01:27:18 I came home two in the morning because when we when I went to record it's like that in circumcision I didn't tell my parents I came home two in the morning and there was like where was your ass at
Starting point is 01:27:28 I was there because we wouldn't even go in my basement at Joe's Attic I was at Joe's Attic don't you do that again motherfucker and you come you know what I'm saying you call you pull over
Starting point is 01:27:36 okay who you with you pull over go to the payphone and let us know where you at when I made my record I didn't tell my parents where I was at so now I'm coming home mom
Starting point is 01:27:44 um remember that night no first I said um I'm gonna change my major I don't want to do business management so my father resting pizza was like oh really so what do you want to do my mother she started doing this
Starting point is 01:27:57 so I'm saying you know um I don't like accounting and bookkeeping and stuff like that I'm thinking of changing the graphic art or you know maybe um um architecture so you know yeah that's
Starting point is 01:28:07 you know architecture is real good my mom my mother was a motherfucker and then I hit away and if that don't work I'm gonna just drop out of school and and draw the comics in the local newspaper you told them
Starting point is 01:28:17 yeah and my mother raised hell like right now I'm scared of yeah my mom calm down woman dissonant move get your ass back up so I go upstairs and I'm sitting and like oh shit I'm fucking up dissonant
Starting point is 01:28:31 the phone rings again it's Joe again yo Russell got us a deal we on profile records dissonant boom bang the record's not only playing on red alert and Mr. Magic is playing across the country
Starting point is 01:28:42 pack your bag we're going on tour to do shows and he hangs up and I'm sitting here bananas going to do fucking what the fuck is he talking I'm trying to figure my life out
Starting point is 01:28:51 I'm a school kid dissonant and then I realized huh Joe won't kill me because I ain't even to go my parents this so Joe's calling every day yo we going on the tour
Starting point is 01:29:00 we got shows coming in North Carolina and dissonant I still ain't tell my parents and I'm like fuck it you know you hold out remember when you was little you would never tell the thing
Starting point is 01:29:10 that you should have just got it over with just get it over with and I've been here I waited eight days and I go down and tell my mother y'all know that
Starting point is 01:29:17 remember the thing I used to do in the basement yeah and we used to take all your records and scratch them up and you see them at yeah well now you know that record
Starting point is 01:29:26 rappers are like yeah my father's like yeah they play that out my job all it because my father worked for transit all the young people was playing sure my mother ain't no nothing
Starting point is 01:29:34 about this well I have one of those the name of the group is Run DMC and we have a hip hop record and this and that yeah I heard a red alert motherfucking when
Starting point is 01:29:42 my mom start cursing this and that boom boom bang song run back upstairs and I'm sent in so Joe calls this what saved me yo we got our first show booked in North Carolina
Starting point is 01:29:51 they paying us $1500 click so I get an idea all right let me go try this I go downstairs and say mom here's the deal our first show's for $1500 Run said that Russell's gonna
Starting point is 01:30:02 book us some more shows here's the deal whatever money now I'm not thinking career right whatever money I make this summer from doing the performances
Starting point is 01:30:13 for my records I'll use my own money to pay for my own tuition at school oh you can go there going the road hey dad my whole attitude changed
Starting point is 01:30:22 you know what I'm saying because now she can get a pocket books and stuff like that so that was the whole genesis of me being put into the how did that
Starting point is 01:30:30 first tour go was it like enough for you like we can keep doing it or you I mean no we was tearing shit up really nobody's never seen
Starting point is 01:30:39 the lack of us because you gotta understand like you said and on an early hip hop was based on disco yeah you know the early
Starting point is 01:30:46 the early hip hop was you gotta give them soup like Run DMC went out to pioneers the real pioneers is everybody who did it before rappers the light was even recorded
Starting point is 01:30:57 right so when they did stop make when they came in to show business them the first rappers had no rappers to look up to but parliament funkadelic and the Rolling Stones
Starting point is 01:31:08 so that's where their attire came and all the disco records Donna Summer and the tramps and the Commodores and all so their idols in the show business world
Starting point is 01:31:18 was dumb so that's who they were trying to emulate when me and Run came along we didn't dress up we dressed like we dressed when we were kids right
Starting point is 01:31:26 we wore the D to suit the break dancers yeah so when the world saw us that was new yeah and not only that we didn't make disco records
Starting point is 01:31:36 right we had beats boosh da boosh dat boosh boosh dat da boosh unemployment at a record
Starting point is 01:31:44 ha we wasn't on no hibbity hop to shaft dance and shake the hand we're gonna disco me we wasn't doing that shit yeah we was doing some other people
Starting point is 01:31:52 in the world trying to make it mine you know what I'm saying no I did that in 1986 we was on two years ago a friend of mine
Starting point is 01:32:00 asked me to say like we had a whole different shit but it was a whoa so it just took off man now because I see you were in the
Starting point is 01:32:08 aerosmith shirt today yes so when walked this way I I feel like we had no idea who they were you had no idea who they were really even you
Starting point is 01:32:16 because you said you like you know didn't know I did not know I knew the Rolling Stones I knew Led Zeppelin but was the oh there is
Starting point is 01:32:23 here's how I knew aerosmith when the DJs would play the break beats James Brown was always getting played because he always had a funky drummer break for the
Starting point is 01:32:32 MC to say their rap one disco chic good toms all the disco records always had a bass line heartbeat boom
Starting point is 01:32:41 boom boom you know all there was always a bass line jazz records always had a break but those rock records also had a break
Starting point is 01:32:51 where it was just drums or drums and guitar prior this is 83 82 83 84 85
Starting point is 01:33:00 before we even thought of doing walk this way over we didn't know we just knew get the album cover with the toys on it and play number four that's what you would say
Starting point is 01:33:11 that's what the one that goes ss 01:33:13,300 --> 01:33:13,300 01:33:13,300 --> 01:33:13,300 01:33:13,300 --> 01:33:13,300 01:33:13,300 --> 01:33:13,300
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Starting point is 01:33:20 01:33:30,500 --> 01:33:31,540 well that's not even ever Toys in the Attic was the album Toys in the Attic's number four um um um Led Zeppelins um when the levy breaks
Starting point is 01:33:39 mm-hmm uh Russia's Tom Sawyer Sharon's Rockin' in the Pocket he would play these and we would rap over them oh my god so that's how
Starting point is 01:33:50 rap rock started in the Bronx it's fun yeah Melly Mel Kumo D all of your old school rappers they're the ones that gave us
Starting point is 01:33:59 the blueprint what we did that was genius was we started doing it on records mm-hmm Melly Mel then you could go to you could punch in
Starting point is 01:34:08 you could go to YouTube right now listeners and punch in Flash Mel in Scorp Kill It 1978 in a live performance
Starting point is 01:34:19 of Melly Mel in Scorpio rhyming over Walk This Way really? 78 yeah wow
Starting point is 01:34:26 so that's where we got it what we did that was genius we started doing it on records yeah so we did Rockbox right because Walk This Way isn't the first
Starting point is 01:34:35 rock-rap record it's a tongue twister Walk This Way isn't the first rock-rap record the first rock-rap record is Rockbox which was the first rap video on MTV
Starting point is 01:34:47 well really? yeah yeah 1984 holy shit by us putting the rock guitars on it it got us on MTV and that's when and when it when
Starting point is 01:34:57 when we took it into every living room that had MTV that was the catalyst that brought about the 80s 90s the craziness because once you could see you guys on MTV
Starting point is 01:35:09 and see the style MTV was significant in the success of hip-hop and that video is significant too in that it really got so much exposure right it elevated everything else that you guys were doing too
Starting point is 01:35:21 well yeah well 1984 we did Rockbox which was a rock track where me and Wrendyce Rhyman about how good we are then check this out 1985
Starting point is 01:35:32 and then we did a video for Rockbox with Professor Irwin Corey opening it up giving a dialogue remember Professor Irwin Corey from the movie Car Wash he was a guy with the hits
Starting point is 01:35:45 remember the Car Wash yeah the Mad Bomber was real unloosen in the nation and then he came in and he fit the description so Car Professor Irwin Corey
Starting point is 01:35:54 was a comedian actor famous throughout the 60s, 70s whatever whatever so that was Rockbox 84 that got hip-hop on MTV in everybody's living room across the nation
Starting point is 01:36:06 1985 we did a song called King of Rock with Larry Bud Melman from the David Letterman show as the guard in front of the Rock World Hall of Fame Museum denying us entry in here right
Starting point is 01:36:20 prophesying because there's a big issue with hip-hop going in and in the Rock World Hall of Fame now 1985 the Rock World Hall of Fame that didn't even exist and it's such a bold way
Starting point is 01:36:29 to start the song too I'm the King of Rock there is none higher sucker MCs should call me sire to burn my kingdom you must use fire and I won't stop rocking till
Starting point is 01:36:40 I retire that's just saying we don't give a fuck about what you're saying we're here becoming yeah it's such a fucking punch in the face
Starting point is 01:36:47 so we did King of Rock 85 then in 86 we was going to remake Toys in the Attic number four and at that time Rick Rubin shout out to Rick Rubin yeah, Rick Rubin
Starting point is 01:36:59 he was our producer at the time so we was going to sample it but Rick goes no you should do it over the way the band originally did it jam ass to J rest in peace yo
Starting point is 01:37:12 that's a great idea me and run whole the fuck up slow down you're taking this rock rap thing too far because rock rap to us was rock beat with me and run talking about how good we are
Starting point is 01:37:23 and I still remember my lyrics we was going to sample it keep to be going guitars be going loop it and I was going to go because we started in 83
Starting point is 01:37:37 so my rap was I'm DMC in the place to be been rhyming on a mic since 83 I'm the best MC in history and there will never be an MC better than me and then run was supposed to go and you know
Starting point is 01:37:49 DJ run run DMC style I'm DJ run and I'm number one here to get it done and have some fun let the party be gone with all of that
Starting point is 01:37:56 that's how it was supposed to go Rick and Russell I mean Rick and Jay nah nah y'all got to learn number fucking four it takes the record off the turntable gives us one of those
Starting point is 01:38:07 the yellow notepad and a big ballpoint pin go in the basement put the needle on the record and let it play the reason why that's significant is the DJs never let the whole song play
Starting point is 01:38:19 right as soon as the guitar da da da da da da da da right when the guy's singing back to the front of the record right so we go in the basement I put the needle on the record
Starting point is 01:38:32 we sitting there with the notepad da da da da da da da da da waiting never heard we don't know what the fuck's gonna happen yeah da da da da da da da da da then you hear his T backstroke level
Starting point is 01:38:41 in the hot and you have to cover next minute we on the phone oh hell no this is hillbilly gibberish this is country bumpkin mountain fucking music this is a long head like
Starting point is 01:38:52 no protest no they screaming at us we screaming back at them screaming at them screaming back at them for the longest so reluctantly we get a call a week later
Starting point is 01:39:03 and jay goes yo rick and went to boston and brought arrow smith to group that made number four to the fucking studio made number four so y'all gotta come yo joe d
Starting point is 01:39:14 you're gonna fucking come and you're gonna make this record so they forced us to make and you're still walking in the studio that day like this is some bullshit yeah we went in there there's a demo
Starting point is 01:39:23 there's a demo online of the original demo the original demo run took the whole first verse i took the whole second verse give steed a third when we out of here they didn't know
Starting point is 01:39:35 the version that you're here they literally chained us to the studio and said y'all will never leave until you make the song a perfect song really the version and hold on after that
Starting point is 01:39:45 even after me and run recorded it we thought we had power it was russell and lear cohen and the record company and our publicists and everybody from our record label and they all happy we said y'all can be happy
Starting point is 01:39:58 as y'all want true story go y'all better never put to shred it out you say that you could put it on album but you're never you're better never put
Starting point is 01:40:06 to shred it out and the moral to that story is always be open to try something new because not only will it change your life it could change the world yeah yeah because they released the record then we did the phenomenal video
Starting point is 01:40:21 directed to john small that was a that's a like at the time too that video it's it's great because for people who haven't seen it obviously you can look it up but like you guys are on opposing sides
Starting point is 01:40:30 of a wall right and then he breaks through and steven takes the mic stand and knocks the wall that was separating that rock people say yo when steven teller did that in the video
Starting point is 01:40:39 that didn't just happen in the video happened in the world yeah it's separate bro rock and rap together which was separate black people and white people together did a lot
Starting point is 01:40:47 did you find out like was it obvious was that was he reluctant when they you know showed was he like excited to do it or was he like the fuck are we doing well no no no they um
Starting point is 01:40:57 steven teller angel perry were very very um courteous they were very humble you know at that time they was when walked this way dropped remember they dropped that album
Starting point is 01:41:08 with dude looks like a yeah yeah all that they they were bad as hell but because of prior circumstances nobody cared right like my joke is
Starting point is 01:41:19 they could have made a record with god yeah like arrow smith has a soul nope we don't care it's bullshit yeah but when we call rick calls hey arrow smith you know the secretary picks up
Starting point is 01:41:30 hey my name is rick rubin i'm producing rendy mc i know you know who rendy mc is yeah we heard of them guys but they're doing another song and man they're going to do walk this way over well the guys do it
Starting point is 01:41:40 hold on hey guys some guy named rick rubin is on the phone saying he wants to do rendy mc y'all guys want to do it and at that point steven joe was like what do we got to lose
Starting point is 01:41:50 yeah so they came to new york did the record came back and did the video they were very very involved in the making of the record we didn't know where it was going to go
Starting point is 01:41:59 of course but they were humble they showed up in person how you know what you mentioned earlier is that uh you did you're doing songs you and ron are doing songs
Starting point is 01:42:10 about like how nice you are like how good we are and don't you feel like or may i'm wrong in this but like that that whole lane of mc like that being a thing was huge
Starting point is 01:42:22 and you don't really hear those songs anymore like no nobody about skills they don't wrap about skills they don't wrap about goodness they don't wrap about honesty it's and that's not just the music
Starting point is 01:42:35 here in america they use negativity and disrespect as a form of power right so everything that we created hip hop sodies kids should not have to be
Starting point is 01:42:48 it's being celebrated now yeah and what i mean by that was there was deaf destruction and darkness in the bronx the bronx was burning you know i'm saying
Starting point is 01:42:57 yeah i lived in queens it was a little safer where i lived i used to have to leave my block and walk up to the main strip to see the pimp's whole pints
Starting point is 01:43:06 drug pictures and the prostitutes the bronx was a war zone heroin it was burning but these young boys and girls who lived in hell were making such inspiration
Starting point is 01:43:17 they were telling us go to school they were gang bangers and drug dealers saying not the gang bang and not to sell drugs so for me that blew my mind cool modi
Starting point is 01:43:26 was in a group called the treacherous three and at the time it was modi meli mel they made the message africa bambana
Starting point is 01:43:34 zulu nation made planet rock yeah our lives are shit but we have a vision that there could be a world where everybody's together and we're not fighting and everybody's eating
Starting point is 01:43:43 that's a big vision to have so that was impressive to me I thought I was all mr smarty pants catholic school kids straight A's these kids had nothing and still had the same things that I had
Starting point is 01:43:54 yeah so when I started making my records one of the things that I wanted to make the world understand even in the dirt poor ghetto there's goodness it's the good things that are the most powerful
Starting point is 01:44:07 like when I came along my first rhyme was about me going to saint john's universal yeah yeah that's crazy that's your first rhyme right because hip hop is about keeping it real
Starting point is 01:44:15 yeah yeah that's what you were doing right now I don't sell drugs I ain't gonna rhyme about that I could have wrote about so I could have put on a gang signs and all that shit and in front of my way through
Starting point is 01:44:25 but I was like let me rhyme about what I wanted to be so when I did that the kids that were selling drugs and then gangs when my record dropped and this was the outfit this is just radio playing
Starting point is 01:44:35 Friday and Saturday night when my record dropped the kids in my neighborhood came to me down how the hell do you rap and hip hop for the streets and you go to saint john's university so now I'm able to give dialogue with them
Starting point is 01:44:47 yeah I went to capture school my whole life I was a straight A student just in that and they're like man you got a big ass gold chain and you got a Mercedes Benz you got naditas and shit like that
Starting point is 01:44:56 so that inspired some of the dudes actually told me OD man I went and got a GED just because you said it that's cool and with the GED I was able to take courses
Starting point is 01:45:05 at the community college wow and now I'm a doctor I'm a lawyer I'm a journalist I'm a playwright now we knew that
Starting point is 01:45:12 positivity was getting started that's so true and because I think that was also the appeal to run DMC is that it was like we did a curse yeah I found you
Starting point is 01:45:20 I was a fifth grader I think when I discovered you guys and I could listen to the music and it wasn't like you know and our attitude was hard as hell oh man
Starting point is 01:45:30 that's the thing too especially I could speak for like when you're a young boy you're really drawn there's a part of you that wants to be aggressive yeah
Starting point is 01:45:40 and you want to be tough but like you know NWA's like busting nuts and killing bitches fuck the bitches you but they're hoes and like fucking hoes
Starting point is 01:45:50 too short shooting and killing and shit like that which is cool they don't look I like that too but the cool thing was like like beast to the brim
Starting point is 01:45:57 you know that is such an aggressive record and it feels I don't know there's something like visceral that you feel powerful Iced tea always said
Starting point is 01:46:04 we took um we made positivity gangster that's a good way of doing it that's all because the same way you know the same way an art
Starting point is 01:46:13 a rap artist or a rapper or mc will rhyme about shooting this and like rappers rhyme about how much dirt they do how much drugs they sell
Starting point is 01:46:22 how many women they slept with and all of that which is all cool yeah this and that but I looked at that and said with that sick because I was always a good guy
Starting point is 01:46:29 yeah right you know what I'm saying so well you want to be the hero you want to see the man right so the same way
Starting point is 01:46:34 they rhymed about that I'm like like I made a record about Christmas it's Christmas time and holless queens mom's cooking chicken and collet greens
Starting point is 01:46:43 rice is stuffing motherfucker like I want to say motherfucker man Santa Claus bitch but I said no I don't I don't I don't need to curse
Starting point is 01:46:52 or be profane to um but we play Christmas in holless it's a staple in our house every Christmas also in my opinion that is the greatest Christmas on all time
Starting point is 01:47:01 it's all time people starting to say that now they said no it used to just be well god told me look it used to just be Ben Crosby and that King Cole
Starting point is 01:47:10 yeah those were the two stay on what um Ben Crosby's was um um I'm dreaming of a white oh yeah
Starting point is 01:47:18 and oh that's nuts roasting on and on now but you're sure now it's dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun
Starting point is 01:47:25 dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun exactly so that's just that's just
Starting point is 01:47:30 and to be able to do that but so like you said I wanted to be a hero but it was all pretend right I didn't know it was a manifest what really made me
Starting point is 01:47:38 want to be the King of Rock and then you know when I did my 86 I did Son of Bifrit brother of Al Ben was my mother I was sitting there one day and I was like
Starting point is 01:47:49 Thor is the son of Odin from Asgard he got the brother named Loki this true story he got the hammer that's Thor in the Marvel universe
Starting point is 01:48:00 and I said in this universe I'm Darryl I got a father named Bifrit my brother's name is Alfred and I got a mic so I said I'm gonna become Son of Bifrit brother of Al
Starting point is 01:48:11 Ben is my mother and runs my pal it's McDaniels not McDonald's these rhymes are Darryl's those burgers are Ronald's I ran down my family tree my mother
Starting point is 01:48:23 so it was me pretending to be this super powered individual in this universe of hip hop that was my fascinating thing I had no idea
Starting point is 01:48:33 King of Rock I had no idea they was gonna start calling me King dude and it was all it was all it was all from comic books imaginations
Starting point is 01:48:40 that's right here yeah a graphic novel I put out a graphic novel comic book three years ago that's amazing where it's DMC
Starting point is 01:48:46 but in that world I'm not a super powered rapper I'm a I'm actually a teacher yeah who has super powers running around fighting all the bad guys
Starting point is 01:48:54 it's unbelievable so great do you know by the way I always wonder this about hit songs yeah is there do you
Starting point is 01:49:03 feel like like Hollis or Mary Mary or Beats to the Rhime or whatever any of these songs do you ever leave and you're like
Starting point is 01:49:10 I don't know like maybe it'll be like maybe it'll be well received or do you feel like when you're done well for me I was never from the song standpoint
Starting point is 01:49:19 for me is when I do this shit live you can tell mother fuckers ain't gonna want to get on the mic yeah and I'm not gonna curse but like it's playing
Starting point is 01:49:28 it's like you know it's tricky to rock a rhyme I wanted to make records at eight years old that I could still do at 80 the same way that I made it when I was eight now I want to say a lot of
Starting point is 01:49:40 a lot of hip-hop songs like a lot of hip-hop songs the dudes don't even look right rapping them now yes they're not they don't I wanted to make music
Starting point is 01:49:50 that was timeless because I was influenced by Dylan and Crochi and songwriters songwriters now if if I would have made
Starting point is 01:49:58 gangsta rap rap kids so if I would have made those type of right like let's I got a million million rhymes
Starting point is 01:50:04 about all that shit for all of you rappers out there that don't think I could fucking be harder than all your punk motherfuckers brass monkey
Starting point is 01:50:11 yeah body beasties brass monkey that funky I got this rhyme that's more than real when that was actually my rhyme
Starting point is 01:50:19 what about old English 40 ounce old English yeah I had a rhyme but I knew I can't do a rhyme about old English
Starting point is 01:50:25 because all the kids who want to drink it because I'm cool if I did a song about my sneakers look what happened yeah right
Starting point is 01:50:32 you know I'm saying no curls no braids peasy hitting still get paid I am the reason why Yeezy's
Starting point is 01:50:38 can get made like we made that wrecking now motherfuckers gonna get sneaker deals I started realizing my power like I thought
Starting point is 01:50:44 this shit was playtime and pretend make believe shit I would fucking tapped into something
Starting point is 01:50:49 so I know I had to watch my thing but I had this rhyme about I had rhymes about weed and rhymes about sex
Starting point is 01:50:53 and this and that but for me I wanted to be so stronger on a whole different level I didn't I don't need and I don't need
Starting point is 01:51:00 to do fucking 16 bars those were the best 16 bars my career is D got the best four lines ever
Starting point is 01:51:07 yeah king of rock there is none higher what does none higher there's nobody that's it I don't have to explain that shit
Starting point is 01:51:14 no no king of rock that I tell kids that they go there's none higher Mr. McDaniels yeah yeah but I had a rhyme
Starting point is 01:51:20 I got because um I I'm very I've been sober 14 years though but old english
Starting point is 01:51:25 was my favorite thing next to comic books the 40 ounce of old english sure I was making a case today a case
Starting point is 01:51:32 yeah what that was bad we'll talk about that yikes I want to ask you this pancreas I had um
Starting point is 01:51:38 a cute pancreatitis my life was fucked up for oh it's not good but I was taking the old english because I thought it because I'm shy
Starting point is 01:51:47 well I'm not shy no more I realized I don't need a substance to give me courage right but the old english was my courage I had a rhyme
Starting point is 01:51:54 I got this rhyme that's more than real when you drink old english here's how you feel you're reaching the freezer for 40 ounce or 32 ounce
Starting point is 01:52:02 whichever counts you feel each bottle for the one that's cold it's got to be cold when you're drinking old gold but you might take the one that's hot
Starting point is 01:52:10 you got to get it hot that's all they've got a dollar 15 it's a long time ago that is the price that's not too much if you want to get nice you pay your money
Starting point is 01:52:18 you walk out the door then you say to yourself I remember that store you look around for a place to stand with a 40 of old english in your hand you crack the court
Starting point is 01:52:27 you put it to your lip you tilt it slightly you take a sip now by now you should know the deal because that one sip you already feel you're feeling bold
Starting point is 01:52:36 you try to guzzle you finish it off but it ain't no puzzle and then I've had something Jesus man you drink 140 then you drink 10 more oh my life
Starting point is 01:52:46 you find yourself going back to that now that place is your favorite store so I had all I had rhymes about guns and all that stuff and you really were drinking that much at one point
Starting point is 01:52:54 yeah really I want to ask you this before I forget so because I remember and I have two questions as well very important hard-headed questions too so this is what I want to ask though
Starting point is 01:53:02 because I think it resonates with anybody you remember being in college and your parents so when you're like I'm going to go on this tour and your mom's like motherfuck
Starting point is 01:53:10 and you know she flips out I like that she curses at me yeah yeah so admirable you know it's a $1500 gig obviously
Starting point is 01:53:17 with time here a few years go by you become Run DMC and you're doing fucking arenas and music videos so take me to like what is your parents reaction
Starting point is 01:53:27 to like their son becoming a worldwide superstar they didn't see it as a worldwide superstar no my right
Starting point is 01:53:35 even to walk this wait time for them it was the 83 of this shit going to end or didn't okay 84
Starting point is 01:53:41 it's just going to end oh really 85 this shit's got to end yeah it just never did yeah they was waiting for this
Starting point is 01:53:48 today was telling me save your money which I didn't do too good I brought a $50,000 sound system in my fucking truck that never worked go change this stupid shit
Starting point is 01:53:58 like crazy shit but you should get more of my parents stay day gold chains Lamborghinis it wasn't until I would say
Starting point is 01:54:04 for my parents it probably wasn't until the gold chain yeah it probably wasn't until the 90s where they knew that we were something
Starting point is 01:54:11 special that long geez yeah the 90s I remember it had it got to the point
Starting point is 01:54:16 where now we're pioneers and legends now my mother and father 84 is going to end 85 86 so by the time I got to the 90s they looked back and said oh my god
Starting point is 01:54:24 my son all this time yeah because they all turned in worried yeah they're not thinking show but they're worried
Starting point is 01:54:29 save your money and stuff like that people are you having any regrets I said yes I would the only regret I have is I want to spend so much fucking money on coke
Starting point is 01:54:37 yeah that's the only one but you know not you know you make a record of cops I like the journey yeah
Starting point is 01:54:43 feeling is good I like you know that's bullshit I like the mess part of the careers it's the ups and downs and shit but if you know
Starting point is 01:54:49 I spent I probably spent like a half a million dollars on coke on coke geez only in the 80s though not crack
Starting point is 01:54:54 I knew yeah yeah yeah I could never get in a freebase and stuff like that but coke yeah but it was only a period from like 84 to 87
Starting point is 01:55:02 88 where the coke was really good I talked this certain individuals in show business it's a bad thing to say but we sit there there was a period in the 80s
Starting point is 01:55:11 where the coke was really good around that Miami vice time show the coke was it was everywhere it was so every the record of parties
Starting point is 01:55:21 there's everywhere you went it was coke you know to play my record here's some here's an eight ball heavy
Starting point is 01:55:26 but that's when it was good and then crack came and just destroyed everything yeah but for me it was never for my parents it was never
Starting point is 01:55:34 they didn't realize what I had done tell that ride was accomplished I just had a flashback of like being in we moved a lot
Starting point is 01:55:41 and we lived in Plymouth, Minnesota for a while being in the basement of that house and getting like my boom box and just playing
Starting point is 01:55:49 Mary Mary like over and over wow which brings me that's a monkey song brings me to my next yes my next question
Starting point is 01:55:55 who's Mary I've been fucking thinking about this bitch my whole life yeah Mary Mary who the fuck is Mary Mary a lot of Mary's in the world hate that song
Starting point is 01:56:02 yeah their whole life was Mary why you're bugging it was a monkey song I didn't know that Mary, Mary the monkeys yeah we sampled the monkeys where
Starting point is 01:56:09 so Rick Rubin said it said it was Mary Mary where are you going to so Rick Rubin said flipping and say why you're bugging yeah
Starting point is 01:56:18 he said it yeah yeah it was Mary Mary was a monkey song tricky is actually my Sharona mixed with
Starting point is 01:56:27 Tony Basil's Hey Mickey oh Mickey you're so fine you're so fine you blow my mind hey Mickey da boom
Starting point is 01:56:34 da hey Mickey make see hip hop has a habit of we didn't invent shit we reinvented everything right right
Starting point is 01:56:42 so for us my thing was fine and this is what the early hip hop has taught me fine melodies from those folk songs and those classic rock songs
Starting point is 01:56:52 that you could turn into yours over some bad ass beats yeah and that but see it was different we studied
Starting point is 01:57:00 the people we didn't just steal the music though we studied who we sampled right and I'm saying like to be inducted and as a rock and roll of fame is cool
Starting point is 01:57:08 because I used to steal everything from no motherfuckers right right like I just no way they letting us in yeah you're like I'm bad at business
Starting point is 01:57:15 you know I'm saying there's no way and when we got inducted in 2009 the heads of the rock and roll of fame called me Jaryl come in we have to tell you something
Starting point is 01:57:23 because it was me and run because J had passed away already you guys were prophetic I was like what you talking about it was like in 1985
Starting point is 01:57:30 you did a video about you getting being denied entry into the rock and roll of fame and you're fucking crash the door and you're pull the plug on jerry lee louis throw the hat on the Beatles
Starting point is 01:57:40 we take Michael Jackson's glove it's in the video for the whole world to see off it stand in all of its glory run dozen on the ground is a close up of my deed a stepping on it
Starting point is 01:57:50 they said y'all did that video in rock and roll of fame then start till 86 so now you got the whole thing with rap shouldn't be in here and I remember when jean Simmons was saying what he said I always have a habit of
Starting point is 01:58:02 saying shit that make everybody curse me out yeah like I don't have a lot of followers I don't get a lot of likes and views but this day I was like I can't agree with what jean Simmons is saying
Starting point is 01:58:13 my time mother fucker fuck you Darrell fuck you motherfuckers well I never liked you and I like run better fuck your mother fuck this and that but jean Simmons said
Starting point is 01:58:21 the rock and roll of fame true story the rock and roll of fame was originally for rock bands but if jean Simmons saying that so then it should be the rock roll of fame for rock so-called rock and roll bands
Starting point is 01:58:33 then you got to have an annex for soul music but that means James Brown don't get it yeah that means listen to it the rock and roll of fame told me this
Starting point is 01:58:40 if you play a fucking flute right no drums no guitar if you play a fucking flute Tom if you play a flute yeah and you fucking sell out the coliseum you're a fucking rock star yeah bro
Starting point is 01:58:53 yeah yeah so that's what they're based on but I can understand what jean Simmons said because they don't play fucking instrument his whole thing jean's thing for people that don't know was just that the musician thing
Starting point is 01:59:02 the band thing you know rock started with the band thing but you gotta let the people think run DMC this is another thing I hate they think that we was the first for everything
Starting point is 01:59:11 but not everything grandmaster flash in the first five is the first to be inducted in the rock and roll of fame because of the message that record is so that shit is right up there with led zeppelin
Starting point is 01:59:24 poor mccartney all of that shit broken glass every the sound of it that shit is a fucking work of art so it deserves to be in a rock and roll of fame so when we went in people
Starting point is 01:59:35 most of the rock guys that do have a beef with fake ass rappers getting in mm-hmm that's real funny let's see what happens when the fake ass rappers chuck in it but they said run DMC get a pass
Starting point is 01:59:45 because his was unique about us the only thing that wasn't live Mr. Jean Simmons was the drums mm we had rock guitar all my hits are rock records rock box king of rock
Starting point is 01:59:56 walk this way all rock tricky and mary mary all my hits that's why I said I'm the king of rock I don't want to be the king of rap why do you want to
Starting point is 02:00:08 even back then all rappers do these banter back and forth about who's better and stuff like that so I didn't want to be the king of rock me as a kid my vision wasn't to be better than meli mel
Starting point is 02:00:21 and jz and m&m me as a kid my vision is to even now my vision is to go I'm going for fucking Mick Jagger's jugular when I fucking walk in the room
Starting point is 02:00:32 it's me pretending though I'm really not just me Michael Jackson better fucking bow I'm put to I'm really thinking that but when I get in the room I ain't gonna say that
Starting point is 02:00:42 yeah but I'm in but I'm saying it yeah Michael that's why we said the original rhyme on king of rock was iller than iller there's no one chiller fuck Michael Jackson
Starting point is 02:00:50 and his bullshit thriller but on a record we had to say it's not Michael Jackson and this is not thriller I originally wrote my rhymes like that I wrote a rod of rhymes with the fucking I'm the Hulk
Starting point is 02:01:00 combined with Thanos yeah because Thanos beat the Hulk up in infinity war which killed me I don't like nobody that did that yeah
Starting point is 02:01:09 but there was a reason Thanos is still tighten and this and that but when the Hulk out his ass kicked in that so now when I was on the mic I was Hulk Thor and Captain America
Starting point is 02:01:18 and combined so now at this point in my life I'm Hulk Thor Captain America and Thanos but I'm a nice Thanos so that you know we are all products of pop culture yeah
Starting point is 02:01:30 you know when you look at me I'm not just my Adidas and walk this way I'm Fred Flintstone I'm the Munsters I'm the Jetsons I'm my dream I'm all in this stuff
Starting point is 02:01:39 that's who I am so I draw from those things even now at 55 because it was so important to my life did you by the way was it calculated you're young yeah
Starting point is 02:01:50 not that much older I'm not I'm 55 now he's like a decade and you're young were the glasses a calculated thing or are those the glasses you were wearing you know big ones I used to walk around blind
Starting point is 02:01:59 until run said yo we should wear your glasses and then it was that simple I only used to wear them in school and when I was in the palace I love those those are great I was ashamed of them
Starting point is 02:02:09 you were but then you made them cool is that crazy yeah right you made them cool which is cool that's why I tell kids your weakness the thing
Starting point is 02:02:16 they're picking on you and bullying while they're picking on you that's you shine mother fucker yeah because you're sticking out my whole life was I mean I may I always tell people go home and ask
Starting point is 02:02:27 who in hip hop made glasses cool right oh right they're gonna say me because what did I say these for doing it all at a time m's for the rhymes that all mine
Starting point is 02:02:37 sees for cool cool ass can be and run would say why you wear those glasses I'm gonna go so I can say I didn't wear them to be cool and famous I want because I'm wearing them you've seen a do a google search for just DMC glasses
Starting point is 02:02:49 well I think I'm wearing a version of them right now right I'm thinking I might have to go into I might have to go into um I wear I think everybody's from yep here they go
Starting point is 02:02:59 there they are yep look and the guy looking like me and oh yeah man run you say hate that because every image of hip hop is always me oh now hold on all of the images is DMC with the gladness
Starting point is 02:03:10 not J not run run you so always hate that because he was the leader of the group yeah yeah but let me ask you about the logo which is possibly the most iconic oh yeah in the world it's fantastic
Starting point is 02:03:20 how the fuck did you guys come in we needed one and we wanted to just be something that was simple clean always simple and clean say Adams who was also the art director for the beastie boys out of rush management
Starting point is 02:03:33 say Adams came up with originally it was going to be run DMC linear flat yeah but say flipped it he put the run on top of DMC and added the bars so Rizzy was just going to be run dash DMC like you see on
Starting point is 02:03:47 on the cover of the albums or something have it all the people that mimic it you know like everybody oh no it's it's it's it's great and now you would think that it would ruin us because it's so bootlegged and so run race run for run Obama whatever
Starting point is 02:04:02 it run chicken run but it's the dogs now go online the dogs are wearing the shirts and all that but people told me it's now one of probably the third to the bigger iconic logos McDonald's and Coca-Cola 100% and the run DMC is right up there with us
Starting point is 02:04:23 100% we don't even we don't even have products well you know back in the 80s that banned black flag they have just a symbol of four bars and it was easy for kids to tag it that's so yeah because then skateboarders like tag it up I can't believe we don't have a run YMH shirt you gotta have them you gotta make one
Starting point is 02:04:42 but that's great because I remember drawing these on my books because it's just cool I mean and it's cool look right no idea man look DMC just endorsed it we're fucking doing you can do it yeah you can do it definitely do it for sure that's um all right I want to jump ahead to something though so like obviously um you guys you know go on to become just these massive stars and
Starting point is 02:05:04 because we were talking before about the book and you're mentioning like 10 ways not to commit suicide yeah it all caught up with me um 1993 in the 80s we changed the world right so because we changed the world we had a whole new fertile ground for everybody to follow so 90s hip-hop is now taking off right exploding big crazy moves big and smalls to back Nas will everything Jay-Z everybody's coming
Starting point is 02:05:31 and not only that corn limp biscuit kid rock kid rock said run DMC Narrow Smith had a baby not popped out yeah corn limp biscuit all of that exploding so now we're in the game but we used to be the it right but we still respect it yeah you know we're pioneers let everybody show biggie pock puffy all show us love
Starting point is 02:05:53 but we're not on MTV no more we're not on the radio Pete rock CL smooth they reminisce yeah they kill it nobody by nature's killing Q-tip try to kill it Pete rock produces us a song called down with the king on a new album that we're putting down in 1993 Pete rock produced us he hates when I say this but this is true Pete rock has produced so many so many he's great
Starting point is 02:06:16 if not one of the if not the greatest this is debatable produce ever he produces a song down with the king force which does for run DMC what people say walk this way did for arrow smith it brought us back down with the king in the 90s and now every we all too now the motherfuckers is really scared to get on the mic yeah because we back in the 80s soon as that record dropped
Starting point is 02:06:40 I woke up wanting to kill myself paydays was bigger we is headlining we is opening we's opening for pock and biggie opening for um naughty my nature busting everybody's ass people realize and we cannot put them on a show with anybody go on tour yourself so life is good now it's the 90s we're getting 90s payday now because usually the 80s guys get lower paydays because they used to be hot so you got
Starting point is 02:07:05 now we getting the 90s payday I woke up and there was just something inside of me it was this void in me and everybody was pining a legend down with them taking the tours I had to had Romany year where I said um um only g.o.d could be a king but me if enough to g.o.d be in me then oh shit DMC is the best ever all of that nah I wanted to kill myself and it got to the point where I sat there one day and it was just the dread of life on me
Starting point is 02:07:32 I was like oh shit what the fuck is going on okay calm down I'm Daryl Mcdan who's from holless queens New York bifids my father banners my mother outfits my brother running jay on my friends I made it to st. john's universe who we made one fucking record it was a hit we made another record it was a hit we made an album where we go I went through my whole life my adidas deal so why I'm down with the king isl why am I feeling like this I didn't know what it was the void got so uncomfortable that I wanted to take my life because I couldn't live with it it was so painful it was like what the fuck is
Starting point is 02:08:07 this I don't want to live no more so I was getting ready to jump off a roof in Yugoslavia and right when I was getting ready to jump something said stop wait you can't jump yet because people know the DMC story it's two books on us behind the music or you go wikipedia and google me but nobody knows the little boy Daryl who made this DMC thing possible so before I kill myself I want to write a book and I want to go what's up world I'm Daryl Mcdan who's from the ground breaking rap group run DMC Blaseblades for holless queens New York I was born May 31st 1964 and when I got to that part of my identity I was like oh I know my birthday but I don't know no details so I'm gonna call my mother up just to
Starting point is 02:08:48 get some more details just to make it more interesting for the reader so I called my moms up and I go hey mom I'm right and I didn't go I'm about to kill myself she'd have lost it yeah or she might have cursed me out hey mother fuck you better not fucking kill yourself I'm busting away okay so I go ma how much did I weigh she told me what time I was born she told me what hospital she told me hung up the phone hour later I hang up hour later my mother and father calls back at this point in my life I'm an alcoholic suicidal metaphysical spiritual wreck who don't know what the fuck is going on with me that's about his killer cell we have something else to tell you so I thought it was going to be something simple like yo it was a snowstorm and the power went out
Starting point is 02:09:28 and they still gave birth to you they hit me with this 1993 depressed suicidal well you was a month old when we brought you home and you're adopted but we love you bye click what what yeah damn yes so you can imagine what happened to my whole being right then and then crushed bad timing crushed so jack daniels and um jim beam become my friends I'm fucking drinking 24 seven you're drinking a bunch of oe you said no no this is this I had stopped drinking the oe in um 91 oh because I got a cute pancreatitis and I almost died and when I got after I was in a hospital for a month and a this is what happened I was in a hospital for a month and a half and the doctor said son you cannot be drinking a fucking case of oe English today you have two choices when you get out this
Starting point is 02:10:23 hospital you can drink and die or not drink and live so for cold turkey I stopped drinking when I found out that I was adopted I started drinking again this and that just now I'm gonna kill myself all of this but then something happened with the revelation of you're adopted because then I found out I was a foster kid yeah no idea yeah yeah yeah and my mother and father was like we think you might be Dominican and all of this so I'm dealing with all of that and then someone saw me said yo I gotta I gotta find out what what's this all about so that was a catalyst to get me to go to rehab and stop drinking and the thing that made me stop drinking was this a famous when I found out that I was adopted I felt alone felt isolated felt something wrong with me like little kids why
Starting point is 02:11:12 this why this am I not good enough this and then why I can't be well but I had the best mother and father ever because even my therapist said motherfucking you rhymed about them all through your whole fucking career yeah so your spirit and your being knew who your mother and father was you just had this other mystery but the thing that brought everything together was a famous adopted lady who wasn't celebrity we just said she's famous because what she said she said the reason why an adoptee or an orphan or a foster kid should search for the biological parents besides medical now you gotta understand my father biker was diabetic so from when I was summer jobs all the way up to college when I felt out of form I wouldn't mark diabetic diabetic because of but
Starting point is 02:11:56 that's not true that's not true for me so I had the void was me being reborn through Pete Rock and the universe is telling me motherfucker there's something you need to know some superhero shit so the lady said the reason why now you don't have to at first I didn't want to do it no I'm a bife and abandonist my mother father but in the back of my mind is who is my birth mother without a come who's my father all of these other questions but a lot of times we're safe if we don't go that route yeah but this lady said the reason why you should do it is because of this and I said what she said I never said this this blew my mind oh you want to write a book motherfucker you never start a book from chapter two
Starting point is 02:12:38 see those books behind you you don't pick the book up and start reading from yeah Darrell McDaniels the third member of Run DMC all of that that void came at the rebirth of my power to let me know I was living my life from chapter two that's why I was doing all the drinking yeah there was something with the old English 40s I was trying to fill but I didn't find under that out until I went to rehab so I said okay let me go get sober so I could deal with all of this I really I didn't want to when I went to rehab I discovered the most powerful thing that I ever did in my life besides make my ideas and walk this way I discovered therapy I discovered this thing called therapy and a lot of men love it I'm saying and it's men in general a lot of black
Starting point is 02:13:23 men all these black motherfuckers are friends you know motherfuckers ain't tough and nothing like that you're dealing with some shit that you'll think is a weakness that you should deal with because if you deal with it's just strength I went to therapy change your life the first question my therapist I was 35 years old when I went in and he came in with his clipboard and his doctor suit I was 35 he probably was like 46 47 maybe 50 white guy he sits down glasses just like yours he sits down and says Darrell during your career at Run DMC did anybody ever do anything to make you angry and I'm sitting there I'm like no he said true story he put his clipboard down he stood up he took off his doctor smart because he wanted to come at me real he sat down he looked
Starting point is 02:14:11 me in mind he said you a goddamn motherfucking liar and when he said that to me yeah man in 1985 when Joe did this I was diagnosed with suppressed emotions the reason why I became alcoholic was I was scared to tell people how I failed yeah because when I was giving up for adoption there was a primal wound where I want to be accepted subconsciously I did not want to be given away again there's a book called the primal room but I forgot the lady's name I know a professor it's a lady it starts with a V but she said when I was given away because I'm with my birth mother for nine months oh you so I'm giving away your spirit is too long ago what are you doing I want to be with my mother you scar about it of course when I went to therapy I look back I'm OCD I'm very
Starting point is 02:14:59 neat I always want to be in control and I always want people to like me so my my therapist said D you had the power 20 years ago not to fall down and stay in the catacombs of depressing I said what do you mean by that if anybody ever does something about you it's okay to speak up like people say okay D if that's the case what would the front DMC there was a lot of records I made that I didn't want to make and people go they they they call out the good ones but missy lane rack time to hold back from hell album which was a fucking disaster you know and then you know more poverty it was a thing where I was a follower but I was following for the wrong reasons I was a following to be accepted like I wouldn't have made that record that way but I didn't want to hurt J and runs I
Starting point is 02:15:48 didn't want to cause no emotion I didn't want to miss your problem so it's mental it's all meant so I was diagnosed with suppressed emotions but my therapist said yo when you was writing your rhymes not high on O.E. that's when you wrote all your good shit I didn't think about that you never thought of that I never thought about that and he said what what where was you drawing your courage from I didn't remember my comic books until I went to therapy we're all English replace the imagination that I was getting from Marvel yeah which made me write a rhyme about anything so good than anybody but I was drinking the old and you say I gotta be this this you know I need this for the courage so when I got out of rehab what had happened was I was in rehab and therapy this whole
Starting point is 02:16:34 time my partner run he had 10 years of a successful TV show runs house yeah 10 years and people would tell me first season came on they waiting for DMC to show up oh he ain't show up this season next season next year 10 years I ain't show up there's no beef with me and run because imagine what happened to me um I got acute pancreatitis I got depressed I found out that I was adopted um J master J got shot and killed then my father died had a lot to deal with a lot a lot to deal with fortunately I found um therapy on the third one yeah so I was able to deal with all these other things so when I got out of rehab and therapy I'm walking the world now and people always go yo we never see you because I'm not on TV you know I'm saying nobody knows when LD was it what's up with you
Starting point is 02:17:24 was you and run got a problem no me and running the best of friends I love him but he's a fucking TV star now yeah so what's up with what you're doing oh I just got out of rehab and I would say that and you'll see people now yeah it ain't no DMC run shit so what what's that about I would tell him y'all I was drinking a quesadilla today Jack Daniels and Jim beam was my friend I found out that I was adopted I was suicide what really and I would sit there and tell these people this just kept happening no DMC man could you come talk to my father because he no DMC could you come talk to my dover because she like it was crazy and I found myself going to speak to people and they was like yo you put it out to so nonchalize that yo I'm hip hop I gotta keep it real I'm not
Starting point is 02:18:02 gonna frontend but will you be that last thing there you know I'm in Hollywood you know it's like I just got out of rehab yeah isn't that I started telling my truth good for you for doing that which was so powerful and putting the book out too and then I was doing that so much in it all the people I was just talking to people they were like yo D you should write a book and I was like no because I will not capitalize off an unfortunate situation you know I'm saying sell some books make some money they said no D man you I know you ain't that type of guy but he said what a book you can reach so many people not even being there yeah so I put out a book called 10 ways not to commit suicide which goes into detail everything that I just talked about I gotta
Starting point is 02:18:40 ask because you were you became aware of it you know surprisingly later in life when you found out you were adopted yeah did you pursue finding your you know your biological not till 2004 found out that I was adopted in 97 and it took 97 98 99 2000 took seven years eight years for me to get to courage and that just came about where when I first found out that I was adopted I didn't know any other adopted people so that was a hell in itself yeah I was walking around here I was all right and I was in therapy but I was still a mess but the beautiful thing I didn't have to drink but it was hanging over me so when I met some of adopted people a matter of fact I got to meet a nice young lady from LA named Sheila Jaffe and if you want to know who Sheila Jaffe is she
Starting point is 02:19:30 she's one of the greatest casting directors out here in LA uh Antiraj Sopranos Mark Wahlberg John just to name a few so um I got to meet Sheila Jaffe and I didn't feel alone no more so she introduced me to other adoptees here in LA they was like oh dude by the way um we do an adoption anonymous thing I was like what the hell is that once a month we just go in the room and we talk no therapist you know we just told people you could be angry you could cry whatever cool set chains I'm sitting there but at these meetings they was like are you dying and oh no I don't want to know not nope just in there so a little instigation from Sheila and my other adopted friends they was like yo you want to find your birthmark we know a private eye lady who started a private eye service
Starting point is 02:20:19 specifically for adoptees like she can go CIA and Russian all that her service is specifically for specifically for adoptees so I used this private eye lady in 2004 and she comes back to me your mother she lives in Staten Island she drives a silver Honda Accord and uh Christmas no Thanksgiving of 2004 I knocked on the door and the door opened up and it was my birth mother and I found two brothers and a sister that I didn't know I had and it's funny it was the first time in my life that I saw somebody related to me that looked exactly like right because all before I was trying to you know fit in you know trying to put two and two together okay I look like on Catherine and Donnie and Samantha but I look nothing like my mother and father growing up yeah my brother
Starting point is 02:21:10 Alfred he looks like fucking Wesley Stipes look at me but the love they gave me there was no way I wasn't a McDaniels so wait so what was the reason your mother gave you up did you get to ask her yeah in the meeting and you know it was fine I was sitting so she says I know you died and know I gave you up I was like shit lady that's an understatement yeah she hit me with this she said I gave you up to give you a chance because what had happened was my brother was born three years prior to her my mother was living in um Hamilton Heights in the Washington Heights area so that's why my parents thought I was Dominican yes so my mother and father you know my doctor and we think you might be Dominican because all they knew was this young girl couldn't keep you
Starting point is 02:21:54 and gave you up um I think through the Catholic services so she was young and she already so she had my brother she had my brother when she was 18 and she my brother was raised by her and her family so my father moved them from New York City to Staten Island and said don't go back and see that boy and come home pregnant again she didn't listen so she came home pregnant with me it's no way they could keep me so they put me up for adoption wow and now two brothers and a sister that I didn't know I had do you guys yeah fortunately yeah 99.9 of reunions of her mother fucker don't you double coy again I don't want to see your ass I'll call the police on you because it's nothing right I gotta tell other adoptees they're not mad with you yeah they're mad at what you asked
Starting point is 02:22:41 remind them of like a lot of mothers is reminded of the man in that time and let's think on the therapy they won't be able to deal with those issues it's gotta be wild not that it's important to this it's gotta be wild to see that the you're you know someone you had your son that you had to give up for adoption is oh no it's the wildest thing ever because she goes this was cool um she goes when I'm speaking to her on the phone before in person meeting she goes okay what do you do are you married yeah married okay she goes what do you do and I'm going I'm in the music business she said oh yeah what kind of music I go um you know I'm a rapper I make hip hop music and she goes oh okay I go what what's the matter she said no she goes um what's the name of your group and I'm
Starting point is 02:23:23 going run DMC and she's real quiet I go hello hello run DMC I love run DMC this is my birth mother how long I'm in my music and knowing I'm the god you know I know all tricky and walk this way and all of that's wild man so now after that conversation before I got to meet in person she got to go do her work all right we'll meet on Thanksgiving she got off the phone had to call up her kids sit down I need to tell you all right I gotta tell you something I have a kid this and that you know yeah ma whatever what and he's DMC so now they really know yeah ma yeah whatever you know he's really DMC so she set up for me when I walked through the door you see that faces dropped oh shit because my older brother Mark who I said was born before me I had uh it was Mark then me I was
Starting point is 02:24:10 giving up and then she had Damon and my sister about Jaheed about two other men but Mark's whole life 80 mark come here that god DMC could be your brother 84 85 oh they're always telling him he got to the point where stop fuck I don't give a fuck DMC come to find out DMC's really really your brother that's hilarious I mean my brother Mark that would blow your mind exactly like me in the 80s go tea wears glasses check this out get the he could draw he could draw too no oh wow she's the youngest of us I'm very OCD you didn't see me fixing the labels here sitting here like this label I'm trying to deal with it but the first thing to deal with in overcoming is admit that you do it just look see how this is looking at me this one can't be like that oh right
Starting point is 02:24:58 that kills me yeah the controlling you got to do that and my son does it all the time he moves all the stuff he got it from you and then he sits there with my friends and so they can watch me come in but I'm starting to learn that kid rock taught me something very significant I love kid rock because I'm doing my depression he called me to Detroit come stay with me for three days and you just just you know not no DM just come hang on and he introduced me to the um the the peanut butter and jelly ready made things wait when they first came out those peanuts the smuckers peanut butter and jelly that is nasty as hell you know I love the swirl in the jar you mean no no not this world that's nasty disgusting I hate that no I'm talking about the ready made sandwiches
Starting point is 02:25:41 the frozen ones oh bro I'm interested but kid rock did something that was very therapeutic for me he took my carry on bag just so neat and he said I'ma pour your bag out I'm sitting here some starting to sweat now I'm thinking about it I'ma pour he said deed pouring your bag I was not gonna kill you so he poured my whole bag out on the ground one day and it hurt bad but then I said oh shit I didn't die so I know that if that being like that it's not gonna kill me I prefer it like that now you're also you're playing uh in a in a band now yes I'm in I'm in it no no no okay what happened with that was I went to um rock on the range in Ohio is rock on the range the big festival rock on the range that they do every year I was playing with um I was playing with
Starting point is 02:26:30 pop evil I did a remix of one of their songs pop eat trenches so pop evil wanted to bring me out at rock on the range festival this was about seven or eight years ago so I go to rock on the range and I'm backstage sitting with all of rock the metal guy everybody this and that and and Rob Dukes was singing with Exodus at the time he was the third lead singer of Exodus so he comes up to me just to tell me how cool I am and I'm like oh okay yeah thank you yeah we dig you and everybody's digging units in that and he goes oh we should do a song together and I go okay what I'm gonna hold you to that so um we went in the studio to do one song and it came out so good that we kept making songs and making songs and making songs but at the end of the recording the album the the band
Starting point is 02:27:19 he was singing with Exodus Exodus fired him the day me and Rob met the next day he got fired from Exodus so he started a new band called um um generation kill okay we was making an album called fragile mortals okay the album was called fragile mortals so we made all of these songs with his generation kill band but then the generation kill band broke up but that being said at the time I was already working on this project called DMC but this um entity of DMC stands for dynamic musical collaborations so what I was doing with I was um recording with all my favorite punk classic rock and alternative artists um Joan Jett I love her huge fan Joan Jett Sammy Hager Tim Armstrong from Rancid Travis Barker Sebastian Bach Rob Dukes um who else is on the album this
Starting point is 02:28:14 is all the music you love too yeah this is all the rock music that I love so the fragile mortals album is now not coming out because the band the bands do got you but you're still you're playing in that I know you said you and Ron will still do like some like do pride yeah we'll do we'll do we'll do your we'll do a radio show we'll do a festival but it's gotta be a lot of money yeah yeah sure and it's not an eagle thing it's like for me and running get on stage it's like what do you pay Kanye and Jay-Z oh yeah you have to pay us more yeah because I put my fucking work you know I'm saying so that's what people say it now because the hip hop is a billion dollar company yeah yeah I'm not coming for 30 000 yeah and you you want the Beatles of hip hop that's what they go yeah it's
Starting point is 02:28:55 your fault you should have just said run the MC was a good group from the 80s yeah but you're gonna call us the Beatles pioneer the reason why this exists and you want me to come play your show yeah you know I'm saying you gotta pay me Beatle Kanye what's going on can you pick me up with a discount for me for a private show yes okay cool yes definitely for you because you're my friend thank you but everybody else everybody else I just gave you the pitch you want me and run check gotta be really big really big and and now what I'm here now in LA um after JMS to Jay passed away rest in peace JMS to Jay um I didn't want to do the same presentation that I did with run and Jay right because that's need to be respected of course like you know y'all can make
Starting point is 02:29:37 work you know we can't replace our drama Jay was the band the whole thing right so what I did now was I wanted to do a different a different interpretation of what I'm known for so now I have a band it's called DMC and the Hell Raisers from Raising Hell and you know the Phenomenon of course so what we do is we do my whole catalog live live drums live bass live guitar and I still have DJ Charlie Chen who is Jay's protege on the turntables like even Suckham Seas which is all beat we add rock guitar and we make it hard and how often do those shows play all the time all the time yeah yeah that's what I do 95 95% of what I do is I go to um group homes adoption agencies foster care agencies you know middle schools and high schools and I speak to
Starting point is 02:30:28 the kids about comic books hip hop and importance of knowing something wow like you know I don't want to tell kids you need to go to college yeah education is important but I tell them no matter what you do you need to learn yeah you know I'm saying like you got this was like funny to me because I I knew like I was even saying I go in the car today on the way here I was like you know I've only seen him in interviews but I go I'm telling you like the MC is a good guy yeah one of the good guys everybody want to be the bad guy because the bad guy when I say everybody want to be the bad guy but the bad guy ain't so bad everybody want to be the bad guy until the good guy kicks his ass and that's one of the records that we got coming out right I'm sick and tired of being bullied
Starting point is 02:31:16 you're not going to push me around anymore I'm going to make sure you clearly clearly understand that into my own hands I'm taking the law not bad meaning bad but bad meaning good don't want to kick your ass but I know that I should you came to attack and I was hoping you would oh it's going to be crazy oh I love it everybody want to be the bad guy but the bad guy casing is is sad everybody want to be the bad guy until the good guy kicks his ass I love that that's that everybody out then yeah you uh you have skills man it's a it's unbelievable this is a treat man thank you no thank you for having me on man this is so dope I've watched you stand up man you have me crying oh thanks man no no like crying that's when I know you're funny as a fuck thanks man I'm crying
Starting point is 02:32:04 I'm saying my wife's like what's the matter I'm listening to her right now really funny that's an honor thank you man I want to come catch you alive I would love that I feel honored I'm very honored but did Mike Tyson really come and see you yeah yeah yeah he really did he really came and that's so funny he really hung out no Mike's a really good guy yeah yeah I actually got to see him again um a few months ago he was like people comment that big shout out big shout out to Mike I love my me and Michael Ray back he was with us when we played Madison Square Garden fuck yeah and he was champion of the world and stuff like that and run DMC the Beastie Boys Eric me and Rock M Udini and LL Cool J and I was hanging out with Mike Tyson that night so we have a lot in common yeah
Starting point is 02:32:45 that's a wild night it's a crazy night hell yeah that's crazy that's Mike doing his thing back there exactly yeah um yeah dude this was a blast yeah thank you so much thank you for having me on just so you know uh check out obviously DMC and the HellRaisers check out the book 10 Ways Not to Commit Suicide and the comic book and the comic Darryl Decompany is called Darryl Makes Comics DMC DMC yeah Darryl Makes Comics because I couldn't use Marvel and I couldn't use DC my man Riggs was like Riggs Morales was actually Eminem's right hand man over at Shady Records and um he's my editing chief with my comic book company so he said what do you want to call your comic book company I'm like I don't know oh DMC Darryl Makes Comics because that's what I'm gonna be doing yeah
Starting point is 02:33:29 perfect yeah it fits you're a great guy I really enjoyed this conversation man thank you for having me thank you man I mean retarded man oh and she a hot core fun you are completely retarded a hot core fun you are completely retarded a hot core fun you are completely retarded I like that I like that son of a bitch oh I mean retarded man you retarded man I mean retarded man you retarded man
Starting point is 02:34:59 you are completely retarded a hot core fun a hot core fun hi mommy thanks jeans thank you for watching this episode of your mom's house and if you had a great time watch more videos here here here

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