Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura - Ron Taylor Is Funny AF | Your Mom's House Ep. 860

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up? Are you in Austin? Are you visiting Austin? Do you live in Austin? Well, I welcome you to please come check out Chichot Bomba. That is the Italian bakery that I have opened in Austin. We are now at three locations. We're at the fairground food hall underneath the Wells Fargo building downtown. We are in the lobby of the Scarborough building. And we have our all-new flagship location at 1100 South Lamar right in front of the Alamo Draft House. We have pastries. We have coffee. We have have homemade Italian sandwiches. We have pizza. We have pasta. So just come in, rub my big belly, which sits in our statue, eat some food, and enjoy yourself. And I hope you have a good time at Chichabomba, which means a little fat ass. Welcome. Welcome to your mom's house. Welcome to another episode of Your Mom's House. I am here today joined by the winner of Netflix. his own funny a f it's the great ron taylor everybody yeah listen to that listen to that appreciate it it's pretty crazy that i can say i was there yeah i was there and um if you don't yet follow ron follow him on instagram at comedian ron t um you can get all information for shows there
Starting point is 00:01:26 um it was a i have to tell you before i get your take I did an episode early on in the season where I did like the showcase in L.A. You were the L.A. one? Yes. So in L.A. I flew out. I went to the improv. It was like during the day. And Kevin and I watched like, I don't know, like a dozen or so comedians. And it was fun, you know, it was like a good atmosphere.
Starting point is 00:01:56 And I was like, oh, this is cool. And you saw like some people had great sets. People had good sets. People were like, okay. Kind of like what you expect. Yeah. And for whatever reason, you know, I just expected kind of like the same sentiment, you know, the same kind of energy and everything on the finale.
Starting point is 00:02:13 I just, I didn't know what to expect. I was like, oh, it'll be like that. Right. So we go to this theater in downtown L.A. and I'm just like getting ready to like kind of go through the same thing. And when we, we walked out as the like the guest judges, like we weren't really judging, but, you know, Nikki and I walked out. first I was like oh shit
Starting point is 00:02:33 the uh the energy in here is pretty hot right now yeah which like you don't always get at taping sometimes taping's fucking blow yeah and so I'm like fuck okay this is cool and then there was four finalists and I'm
Starting point is 00:02:49 sitting there on the couch with her and like after every set I'm like oh my god like these guys are destroying it was fucking electric in there yeah it was and all the crowds, especially once it got to the theater shows. So we had the roast in the theater, the topical in the theater, then we had the semifinals and the finals. And because we were still
Starting point is 00:03:13 in production of the show, we didn't really see the warm-up guy go out there and do it. So when we got out there, we kind of were just feeling like, God damn, this warm-up guy is amazing. Yeah. I don't know what he did. I don't know if it was all him or if it was just like you said, the environment, the energy. But something was going on. Like, they really wanted to laugh. And it was a bunch of them, you know, it's theaters. Like, all of us at that point had played a theater before.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Uh-huh. But they didn't come for us. We just happened to be there. That's right. That's right. So it was kind of different when, you know, in a way they were there. Because now they're excited to see you guys. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Yeah. Right. And I said this, I think I said this to you later that night at the comedy store. But I don't remember because I was telling you. I was telling other people, but when I left there, I feel like whenever you see good stand-up, no matter who it is. If you're a stand-up, it makes you want to do stand-up. Like, you feel inspired now?
Starting point is 00:04:11 Yeah, that was the interviews afterwards. I saw that. Yeah, and I was like, I want to go do stand-up. So I went to the store and did a spot because I was like, I felt so fired up watching you guys. I was like, I got to get on stage. Yeah, I did a spot too, but it was like, oh, I got to get to work now. Yeah. I just burnt 30 minutes of little time.
Starting point is 00:04:27 my god, not I gotta, you know, either rebuild or replenish. Yeah, well, it's a good to have that mentality, you know. It's definitely good to have the mentality of like accepting that you, first of all, that you can, right? Like, some people go like, I'm done. Like, I burned it. And you're like, it's not how it works. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:46 You can keep doing it. We'll get all into it. I'm just going to play you an opening clip here. And then we'll get into the show. Here's our opening clip of the show. Get up, get up, get up, get up. We got money to get. Man, get that's fuck out of it.
Starting point is 00:05:01 No, we got money to get. We got the fuck on it. Now, we got money again. I'm going to kick your ass. Hey, bro, you better, you better watch it, though. Yeah, all right. You're going to fuck around and find out. Fuck you, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Who is my auntie? Don't bring anyone mudd into this. Your mom in the fucking stand. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome to your mom's house with Tom Segura. It's kind of a long intro. Hey, that's all right, man.
Starting point is 00:06:02 We hear a hip-hop remix. We have a sick kid at the house, so Christina's not here today. He's got the haunt of virus or whatever it's called. Jesus. Yeah, whatever. What's that? Well, I'm not getting that shit. I was like, you can stay around that.
Starting point is 00:06:23 So, I got to tell you too. First of all, that video I feel for that guy. Oh, yeah, right? I have to say, as a fellow van dweller. Yeah, you are a van dweller. That was mean. To be woken up. Oh, it's the worst.
Starting point is 00:06:39 And you always think it's the police. Yeah. So to see somebody messing around saying we got money to get. If I had money to get, would I be in a fucking van? I know. I know. It's both upsetting and funny. Like you, it's funny to wake someone up and who is clearly napping and be like, we got,
Starting point is 00:06:57 we got money to get. But there's nothing worse than being woken up for no reason. Like, if somebody just fucks with you to wake you up, it's one of the meanest things you can do. It's, you know, probably right there with disturbing while you're taking it shit. Because that's also a really fucked up thing to do. I dated a girl who did both of those. She would fuck with you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:16 She had no sense of, like, privacy when it came to the bathroom. That sucks. She would come in and it's like, I could be dealing with. doing anything in here is nowhere sacred. And she would wake me up. Now, granted, I get this, but this is almost worse because it's like, you could wait. She would wake me up and try to fuck. She'd try to suck my dick awake, which is like, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:07:38 But the only thing better than a blow job is sleep. Sleep's amazing. Like, fucking just hold your horny horses. I would say you're an evolved man. A lot of people would contest that. Would it be like, she's like, well, I'm up. So let's do this. Is that how it would be?
Starting point is 00:07:54 That's how it would be expressed. But if I'm being real with you, I think it's, fuck him. I'm going to wake him up and have it be in a way that he can't be mad at me. Oh, right, right. Yeah. What? I just wanted to suck it. You could have waited.
Starting point is 00:08:09 How early would she be doing this to you? You know, when you wake up before, you're ready to wake up, you feel like you could sleep another six hours. Yeah. It might only be 30 minutes in real life. Yeah. But it's just like an hour. You know, if you see I'm dead sleep.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Yeah, dead and then like wake up. It'd be different if I rolled over. Yeah. Bitch, I'm dead. Yeah. And you're fucking what stuff. And then when I'm wide awake and I grab you, my head hurt.
Starting point is 00:08:36 I was sleep. Yeah. I can stop you. See, this goes back to my review after seeing you that you are, you have the soul of an older man. Oh, yeah. Because a young man would be like, Dick sucks all day.
Starting point is 00:08:47 No. But an older guy goes, you know what? Sleep first. Yeah. I want to sleep first. We need that. Yeah. If I don't sleep at this point,
Starting point is 00:08:56 especially in my life, all the drinking and drugs I've done, if I don't sleep, I won't even get it up anyway. Right. I need to recharge my body. Give me a break, please. That makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 00:09:05 I like sleep more than anything. Sleep over everything, man. Yeah. I mean, sleep over food, sleep. Yeah, sleep is, it's the best. There's nothing greater. And also, it fucks, it dictates the day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:19 The whole day is dictated by sleep. Your mood, your energy. Everything. Your mental clarity. Do you have, are you just like a crash guy or do you have like a sleep routine? Like, do you prepare yourself for sleep? At this point in life, I'm trying to, you know. But the only thing I could do is like try to just, just regimen the amount of sleep.
Starting point is 00:09:40 That's kind of the only thing I can control at this point. You know, there's times where I'll have a spot at the mothership at like 1150. Yeah. So I can't have a bedtime of 10 o'clock if you're still trying to get up. Yeah. So it's like, hopefully I don't have anything. thing to do in the morning and then I can like sleep at least at this point I really want seven but if I get six I'm good that's my cutoff point too everyone's different six to me is I can still have
Starting point is 00:10:03 a productive day yeah less than six I feel like absolute shit and if I can get seven or eight it's golden yeah man it's it's definitely needed like I said I've kind of beat my body up so it's gonna take some time were you like a big part here no but drinker yes drinker what was your drink of choice whatever's free. Free stuff. I mean, throughout my drinking career, like, let's see if I started drinking at 21, about when I worked at the store,
Starting point is 00:10:33 when I became a door guy, so about 24 to about 20, I'll give it, I'll give it 30. Yeah, I'll give it 30. I was, I was going hard, but I didn't know I was going hard. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:49 You know, and when it's like, I mean, I guess I kind of knew, I didn't know that your body would react like that. Yeah. You know, it's funny when they say like addiction. I'm thinking like, oh, that just means you can't stop. No, it means if you stop, your body stops working. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:02 I can stop doing anything. But when you're fucking shaking or whatever the fuck or you can't wake up. So you were drinking like that? Yeah. Well, I mean, I did a lot of stuff like that. That's a whole other story. Like 2020, you know. Well, 2020 fucked up a lot of people.
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Starting point is 00:13:28 And you started, you started in Detroit, right, where you're from? Yeah, correct. How were you when you first got up? 18. So how long you've been doing stand up now? 16. Okay, so that makes sense to me why you're so polished. Well, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Yeah. You also, I couldn't tell if you were like 19 or 38. I can't tell. That's funny. But it's one of those things where like, were you also, because I felt this way from the couch watching you guys. The finalists were Usama, you, Caitlin, and... Reg.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Reg Thomas. Reg. Reg Thomas, yep, yep. I was fucking, honestly, man, like, I've said it, but, like, I was blown away. Were you, like, impressed with how good people were? I don't know about impressed because these are my peers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:20 So I kind of personally knew. what everybody could do. Yeah. I guess I was impressed with all of us, myself included, at how we, especially come the finals, and how we all recognize, like, the moment. Yeah. And, like, in a way, it was almost easier
Starting point is 00:14:39 than some of the other stuff. I understand. Because you knew it was it. Yeah. When lose or draw, this is it. I'm going balls to the walls. There's nothing left for me to hold on to, which strategy of winning the competition,
Starting point is 00:14:51 and that's a whole other conversation we can have. have, but like, it's kind of when you've got, you know, I don't want to say limited material, but when you perform in an hour, as you know, like there's some jokes that work because they're here. Yes. Or at least they work really well because they hear. Once you start isolating things from a constructed hour, it's very different. It's different.
Starting point is 00:15:12 So how do you plan, pick and choose what you're going to do? Did you plan when you're going into this and as you're progressing save this if I get that far? Like a little bit, right? So quick backstory on that. Long story short, I did a competition years ago, like in Kentucky or somewhere like that. And it kind of was like a place system until the finals. So, you know, the first three get, you know, move to the next one. And I was getting first place, first place, first place.
Starting point is 00:15:42 The last one, first place winner wins it. But all the people who were coming in third and second were saving material for the finals. and then I lost and people were like what the hell this guy was great but it had nothing to do with the last ones it was about this one right so I kind of learned from that I ain't gonna call it a mistake but from that situation
Starting point is 00:16:02 going into this competition there were some things where I was like I think I can get away with not doing this one yet but I can't say like oh yeah I know I'm gonna make it then I'm a but you had the thought at least of like you got to have something super put together solid to perform
Starting point is 00:16:20 later on. Right. Either that or, which I kind of did both, whatever I do, I'm going to have to beef up like it's a closer. Yeah. Like, you know, sometimes, I guess when you're trying to get I heard Louis C.K. say this. When he's trying to beef up jokes, like, he'll,
Starting point is 00:16:36 I forget where he put it, but he put it at the front. He'll put it at the front. I heard that too. Right. So I kind of was like doing these jokes that sometimes would go in the middle of my actual act as if they were my big closer. So I kind of beefed them up. You turn it on a little more.
Starting point is 00:16:52 You just kind of turn up the volume. So between that and like saving some in a way, that's what ended up happening. But more than all of that, the biggest thing that happened to me in this competition that I think that helps me win other than support and, you know, me working hard and all that stuff. The sets were five minutes. So what you saw in L.A., that's five minutes. And then in L.A. we did the callbacks. That was five minutes. that second five minutes in LA,
Starting point is 00:17:25 I just didn't. I'm not used to doing five minutes sets. So I had planned three jokes. I only got to two. I couldn't get to the closer of that five-minute set. Had I known I wouldn't get to the closer, I wouldn't pick these first two jokes. I did it, but I got through anyway.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Now I still got that closing joke. Then it happened again. Oh, I'm trying to get to this joke. I don't have time and run out of time. I ended up still getting through anyway. I get these two closing jokes that I actually meant to do earlier in the competition. And that's what I ended up closing with, like the finals and semifinals. Wow.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yeah. Wow. Just poor time management. I noticed this regularly when I'm on tour. So when I'm on tour, I'm doing an hour a night, right? You're doing an hour, hour, and you just get like into this thing of like, I'm doing an hour five, six times a week. Right. And then you come back home and you're like, I'm going to go do a set.
Starting point is 00:18:20 And then you start to go, wait, how do I do a 15 minute set? Yeah. Like your brain kind of goes like, do you try to do these chunks? And what I found was that it was a lot of times it felt more challenging than going and do it. Like the hour, you just go, first of all, you can breathe. You can set the table and you can just like get into your thing. But the shorter time makes you really start to do the math of like, how will I start the set?
Starting point is 00:18:46 How do I build it? How do I close it? and within these parameters. Yeah, and I guess it really gave me an appreciation for the start of a comedy career, my comedy career, a comedy career, because you start doing small amount of times. And the small amount of times are the more, you know, it's the important stuff. Yeah. You get three minutes at the store.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Yeah. You go to open mic, you get five minutes. Like you said, you're on the road. You're doing an hour. And I didn't even realize that sometimes I'm like, I'm doing it. and a five-minute setup. You know, it'll pay off, but it's like, I forgot, oh, like, you can make things funnier, faster if need be.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Like, it's almost like a skill that I just stopped working at because I'm trying to work at the skill of doing an hour. Dude, I just did this, I did an interview in, in L.A. during Netflix as a joke, and they asked me, like, what have you, like, what is one of the things you've learned from doing specials? And I was like, well, one of the things that stands out, aside from like the, you know, the writing performing thing, I go is I'm better at editing. Right? Because editing is essentially what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Yeah. And not just like on stage, even in the edit. When you sit in the bay and you watch a special, when you're a younger guy, anything that gets a laugh period, you're like, yeah, if I can leave it in, right? You got a laugh. And what I noticed was that I developed a skill over time to watch the, the, the, the, you know, the, you're like, you're going to be. the first cut of a special, that's obviously the longest version, and go like, yeah, that got a big laugh,
Starting point is 00:20:23 but it doesn't tell you anything. It's not, it's kind of like, it's not the best joke, like just cut it. And sometimes, like, the editor will be like, cut that? I'm like, yeah, cut it. It's not helping this hour set. Let's make it as tight as possible in the edit.
Starting point is 00:20:37 So every special I've done actually gets shorter. Huh, interesting. Obviously, I have not had that situation. I haven't done a bunch of hours to even think about that. but that's pretty interesting place to get to. I also thought that like, as think about that in the special,
Starting point is 00:20:52 the other thing that I realized in live shows was there's this thing amongst comedians of like almost like a sense of pride and like bragging sometimes of like how much time you can do, right? So like comedians would be like, I did 70, I did eight, I did an hour and a half. And this is what I've discovered about live headlining in big rooms.
Starting point is 00:21:19 You can, if you have an hour and a half, you can do it and perform it. The difference is, if you cut it down to the tightest 60, like it's a tight 60, when you say good night, A, they'll pop out of their seat, like it's a boom.
Starting point is 00:21:37 And they'll leave going like, fuck, that was awesome. I wish that was longer. When you see an hour and a half, and I've been in the audience for that, as well as on stage for that. When you say good night, they go, like this, they stand up.
Starting point is 00:21:53 And they don't go, God, I wish there was more. They're like, God, damn, we gotta get to the fucking car. That's funny. And I just feel like it's something that I've noticed over time that there's a reason that, like, an hour should be, if you can get it there, the polished tightest version of that set. anything over, I mean, you know, obviously you can do 62, 65,
Starting point is 00:22:19 but once you start getting into like 75, 80, 90, I think it's just gratuit, masturbatory. Yeah, and there's definitely some of that. And I know, especially in, you know, black comics, we, you know, because, like, I remember hearing that Chris Rock would do two hours. Really? Yeah. Well, Dave would famously do like six sometimes at clubs.
Starting point is 00:22:43 I've been there for that. I've never seen Chris Brock do two hours, and I might even have that wrong, but I remember hearing that. And it's like, you know, it's, I don't know if it's like, hey, look how long I can captivate these people's attention or what. Maybe. And I should probably say, like, look, those guys can do whatever the fuck they want. I'm talking about the rest of mortal people. Yeah. Like, I feel like you can just tell if you're, like, dialed in, you're paying attention, that people can pay attention and laugh and have a good time for about that amount of time.
Starting point is 00:23:14 And they start getting antsy and looking at their phones and like kind of wondering when this is wrapping up if you start going well over that. Yeah, I've found that like when, and again, I think this was Chris Rock. I heard say this. Like there's a difference between like a special and a collection of jokes. And that's what I've been trying to work on like for the last 10 years at this point. It's like if I just do every joke that I've ever wrote that I remember and that work. works, I could probably do like two and a half hours. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:48 And I'd still be forgetting some stuff. Yeah. And if they're not, you know, if they care at all, they'll probably still laugh even at, you know, two hours, 30 minutes. But that's not special. Yeah. That's not, there's no cohesive story. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:02 There's no points. Like you say, they just like, okay, that was fine. Or maybe even that was good. And then they're ready to go. Mm-hmm. But trying to make a hour. that like almost has an arc has a story at the like you said at the end and like oh man I wish I had more or like oh that's what you're I see it now yeah that is what I understand
Starting point is 00:24:28 to be a special I think you're right to craft that I don't I don't know yeah I haven't I don't want to say I haven't done it because I don't want to crap on anything I've put out before yeah but I look forward to mastering it oh yeah And you will. You have the fucking goods, man. You're going to kill this special for sure. Yeah, I appreciate it. It's finally the time of year where I get to enjoy my outdoor space. And since we just moved, I get to replenish it to look more, my style and less of an eyesore that I avoid. No matter what aesthetic you're looking to achieve, Wayfair has all you need to curate an outdoor space that's uniquely yours. They have all the filters, visual tools, and reviews to narrow down the best picks for your style and budget.
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Starting point is 00:27:37 That's a whole other story. I went there for theater arts. I think, did one semester, the next semester. I think I forgot to enroll or something stupid. But there was a comedian named Mike Green who came to our school. Now, I was in college for theater arts because I wanted to be a comedian.
Starting point is 00:27:55 And I heard Dave Chappelle say in a James Lipton interview or something like, if you want to be a comedian, you got to go to school for theater arts, whatever. So that's what I did. Wow. So now I'm just in school, learning about plays and the Stanislavski method and all this stuff. But I'm just trying to tell jokes. I'm now technically out of school, but I'm hanging around the campus.
Starting point is 00:28:17 This guy, Mike Green, comes to the school. He's doing the show. I got friends in the audience and they're laughing about something or whatever. Looking back on it, now I know they were heckling. But like, the comedian Mike Green, who's probably just collecting a check. Who's a great guy? He's like, whatever. Hey, what are your kids laughing at?
Starting point is 00:28:34 My friends were like, he's got a joke He wants to tell you pointing at me. That wasn't true. I don't know why they said that. And he said, hey, you think you're funny? You think you can tell a joke? I didn't say nothing. He said, you guys want to see him tell a joke? And I'm like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:49 And that went up on stage. So that was my first time getting on stage. Yeah, which is just, it's a real compliment. No. And did your, so your friends knew you had this comedy aspirate? Like, that's why they did that? Correct. So what did you do when you got on stage?
Starting point is 00:29:04 I had just told stories that I had told people before that kind of got me into, that's how people even knew I was funny from just talking stuff. I think I had made something. Well, I had embellished something about like going out on a date and not being able to get it up, pissing in a condom, jerking off on the toilet and shitting and sneezing. Just fucking potty. You said all that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:31 And wait, how did it go? I don't know. You blacked out? It's completely blacked out. I don't know if they laugh. I don't know if there were people there. Do you remember how Mike responded to you at all? Vaguely.
Starting point is 00:29:44 I think he just shook my hand and then I came back. Wow. Yeah. And then did you befriend him from this? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what, you went and talked to him after the show? Yeah, I think so. And he told me some different places.
Starting point is 00:29:58 And I think it was him that told me about Joey's Comedy Club. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So back then, you know, smartphones weren't as prevalent as they are now. But, you know, I had this GPS app. And I just put in the word comedy in GPS. And everything that came up, I just called or went to.
Starting point is 00:30:16 So I went to a bunch of stores that just sold comic books and stuff like that. You know, I had called people. There were people who put their business information in the GPS. So it went directly to comedians. I'm like, hey, you guys are comedy clubs? Said, no, I'm a comedian. Are you trying to book me? I said, fucking no.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Wow. So yeah, I went to Joey's, and I took a comedy class. Yeah. You know, I read all the books in the library about comedy. So those are the first places I went up at Joey's Comedy Club, like Mark Ridley's. Then I made a white comedian named Jeff Horace who showed me the black rooms in Detroit. He showed you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I didn't even know they existed. Yeah. I knew black comedy existed. I was just like, I guess black people don't do comedy in Detroit because the black comedy rooms weren't clubs they were bars yeah I'm 18 I haven't been any of these bars how would I even know sure then I go to
Starting point is 00:31:09 starters with Tony Roney and start hanging out around Mike Bonner you know deaf jam guys comment few guys and then now I'm doing bakers with Kool-A's he's a Detroit legend got rest of soul and I'm just now I'm getting now I'm doing both but that's what kept me
Starting point is 00:31:25 comfortable in both worlds that technically I started in mainstream clubs yeah naturally you know I can do black rooms. That's kind of what I am. Yeah. And I think that's helped me progress throughout my career outside of, you know, unlike some of my good friends and peers. You know, it's a comfortability level.
Starting point is 00:31:46 You feel comfortable in both rooms. Yeah. Yeah. I feel home in both. It's like, oh, hey, my cousin. Oh, hey, the place I started. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:55 So that, yeah, that for sure gets you way further than somebody. Because the thing that happens to most comedians, I feel like, especially early on, is they go like, okay, this, I'm only comfortable here, I'll perform here. And then they hear about, this is a gay show, this is a black show. And they're like, ah, that's not for me. I want to go over here. I hate that, man. Yeah, I know. I hate that.
Starting point is 00:32:16 And I'm, especially now, because of this competition, one of the craziest things about winning is people do change up, but they change up in such interesting ways. No one's asked me for anything, you know, to open up for my special, you know, it's not like there was a lottery or prize money. But people now, people I've known forever, are now acting as if the information I have is more valid. So now I ask me questions about comedy or whatever. It's like, you didn't care yesterday. The information is not different at all. Right. I have the same opinions.
Starting point is 00:32:53 But I would have people come up to me, and I have been over the last couple of days. days over last week, asked me like, hey, well, how can I get up? How can I get better? I'm like, you don't, you don't do the store. Yeah. You hate the store. Yeah. You need to crack that nut. Like that, that's your issue. You hate chocolate Sundays. Go do that. Like, oh, well, they don't get my stuff. That's the point. Once they get it, once you make them get it, then you can take that and take it elsewhere. Like, there should not be a place in comedy that you cannot make those people laugh. Well, now they just feel like you're credible, you know? They're like, before you're just another guy.
Starting point is 00:33:31 And now they're like, well, he's won this thing, so he's credible now. Which, I mean, I guess. I mean, yeah, that's how people think, you know. Yeah. Just get up. Like, you can have your favorite places. Yeah. Like, I've got rooms that I like over other ones.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Yeah. But if somebody said, hey, go make them laugh. Yeah. I can do it. I've practiced it. Yeah, well, that's why you're good, man. I'll take it. Yeah, I mean, that's definitely.
Starting point is 00:33:57 I got to say also the thing that, so I'm on that couch, I'm watching each of you guys, right? And every set, I'm like, this is fucking fantastic. And then we're sitting there and they get to the voting. And man, Kevin milks that moment, like a real showman. Yeah. And the tension, I found myself going like, read the fucking envelope, man. Like he was really building it up to, he eliminated two.
Starting point is 00:34:26 and then it was you two. And then he was like, now, let's see, but first. And like, what are you doing? But it really worked where like the attention built so much. In that moment when you hear your name called, are you like, oh my God? Like, is it heart racing?
Starting point is 00:34:48 I don't know if it was heart racing. All right, I'll tell you the truth here. I figured it was possible during the six, semifinals. To win? To win. Okay. It was feasible. What made you think that? So throughout the entire competition, there were fan favorites. If you're just watching it as a show, those favorites were Usama and not Olivia. Well, she was another one, but Caitlin, right? Both of those people got pushed through in some part immediately. And the audience is watching this as pre-recorded. So you already, know that these are the favorites because they're
Starting point is 00:35:32 Kevin's favorites. He said, hey, there's no deliberating this next round you're going through. It happened with Osama twice. I'm not sure how many times it happened with Caitlin. But they also were killing. Osama's getting standing ovation, damn near every
Starting point is 00:35:49 set. Caitlin is getting stand inovations, damn there every set. And everybody else is killing on top of that. Yeah. Once we get to the semifinals and they're going to do the first runoff voting or whatever they call that style of voting.
Starting point is 00:36:07 I know that it's going to be because when they first split us it was black versus white. That's inside. They had us draw numbers and it just happened to be like me, Reg Osama versus the three white people. So they had to... Good.
Starting point is 00:36:24 I'm like, no, keep it that way if that was random. They had to switch it around. and Caitlin was in one group and Osama was in another group. From both group, one person gets moved on immediately, then you got four people left and two more go forward from that four.
Starting point is 00:36:41 In my mind, Usom and Caitlin are going, duh, like they already killed it and they're the fan favorites. I just got to try to get in to be one of the other two out of the four left. It's a lot of explaining to say.
Starting point is 00:36:57 When they called my name during the semifinals instead of Caitlin. That's when I knew like, oh, this, this might have something to do with these sets right now. Nothing else matters. Right. So if I have the best set, anybody can have the best set, you know, that night, if, you know, it's anybody's game.
Starting point is 00:37:16 If I can have the best set during the finals, I could win. So when they called both of us up, I'm like, I know it's possible, but Osama's got people, chanting for. Chanting. Before he went up,
Starting point is 00:37:31 yes. After he went up. Oh, yeah. And during the voting, they're chanting. Yeah. The only name I hear is Osama. Why would I think they're going to say Ron?
Starting point is 00:37:40 I already made it this far. This is crazy. I should have been eliminated after I forgot my jokes. Yeah. So when they said Ron, I hadn't really thought about winning at that point. Right. I knew it was possible,
Starting point is 00:37:54 but it never entered my brain what to think. I would have like prepared some cool. moment or something. I was just like, what the fuck is going on? One of the things that also stood out to me about, especially watching on that finale, was I realized, oh, I'd never seen, like, at least a
Starting point is 00:38:10 big type of competition where it wasn't like clean comedy. Yeah, we were talking about that. That was, like, such a cool thing. I was like, oh, that's part of why I'm enjoying this so much, is that they're just doing the sets they would. This is like club comedy, you know?
Starting point is 00:38:26 Yeah, yeah. Afterwards, it was there's a lot of things that we all realize afterwards. Like, oh, yeah, when, like, I don't think there's ever been voting immediately from viewers. Yeah. Like, I've never seen a competition where people were saying the stuff we're saying. Like, yeah. I did a, I did a dick joke. Yeah. Like, extensively. Just yelling about my dick. Yeah. In a competition while wearing a suit dressed like Richard Pryor. Yeah. I've never seen this before. No. So it was a, it was, it was, It was intense. Like, was my heart racing?
Starting point is 00:39:02 No, not when they called my name. But as it continued, like Kevin Hart's like, what the fuck? He's running around. I get the comics from, like, L.A., they're standing up pointing. I'm seeing people crying. I hear Kevin's voice start to wiggling. I didn't even really know there was like rafters. They're all standing up.
Starting point is 00:39:23 I'm like, now it's like building up. I'm like, yo, what? It's fucking cool. I didn't know this was this big. What is going on here? Yeah, yeah. Congratulations, man. Really. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:39:32 It was really cool to be there and watch that. And do you have a plan now? Like, is there a plan for how you want to approach, you know? I mean, obviously it involves touring, but do you have it like a strategic plan for how do you want to do it? You know, I've had representation for about 10 years now. And you know how that is. They make money from with off you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:57 I've been I've been less than helpful at different points throughout the years, right? Yeah. But now it's like, like, you know, I feel like today with management or even agency
Starting point is 00:40:14 versus, I don't know, when Michael Jackson was coming up or Elvis, you know, managers had a different job. Maybe they created something or whatever, but now it's like, hey, just make content, get famous and we'll manage that. which is like, well, I mean, then it's just hard to do, right?
Starting point is 00:40:35 So I've never really managed. I mean, I've never really created a bunch of content and stuff like that. So there was nothing for them to manage. Now there is something for them to manage. Like, there's dates. Like, there's a special to do. So the plan of attack is being created. Whereas before, I was just doing stand-up.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Yeah. Right? So like I've got what I want to do. I got my desires and stuff like that. Well, your focus should stay that way. You shouldn't become, I mean, my opinion, don't become a content creator guy. You're so good at stand-up. Keep focus on that.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I appreciate it. And I don't want to be that, you know, wagging my finger and whatnot. But the space to create content leisurely is what I would like to do. And if I were to, you know, kind of ramp up. the production of leisurely creating content, great. But creating content like a crackhead, like I never wanted to do that.
Starting point is 00:41:37 No. And you know what's funny about production content? I find that like I've discovered sometimes you can put like real production into something. And you're surprised that like online I'm saying. Mm-hmm. People don't always respond to it as much as like just holding your phone and like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Saying some shit about, like, whatever you had for breakfast. As long as you make it, like, you know, deliberate, engaging and funny and, like, you're yourself, sometimes, like, just talking to the phone is what people, like, you'll see the engagement be, like, 20 times higher. Yeah, I've seen that somewhat this week, you know, because of kind of, like, when we were trying to win the competition, there was kind of a campaigning. You know, you had to say, hey, guys, vote for me. Even my last day in L.A. doing the festival, you know, I had to, like, you know, I had to, like,
Starting point is 00:42:28 like announced some upcoming tour dates. And like that video alone, like, kind of went crazy as opposed to me doing some funny bit and doing editing and stuff like that. Well, look, here's some content this guy did. This is lo-fi, but it's cool. Right? If you could do something like this,
Starting point is 00:42:47 and he can just sit like that. This, I can't imagine this ending well. Please don't tell me he hurts itself. I think he's just showing off. I'm scared for this. I know that he's a man. Just tell me, is he going to hurt itself? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Okay. But he's balancing with a tree in his asshole, yeah. Jesus. I mean, that takes tremendous core strength. Yeah, but what are you, why are you practicing that? I mean, he's clearly practiced a lot. What is to be gained from that, man? And this will have a million views.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Absolutely. Can you imagine you announcing your dates like that? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Drewski, he could do something like that. Oh,
Starting point is 00:43:36 yeah. Create that video. God, those keep getting better. Yeah. That is. That's a skill. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:43 And I think, and tell me what you think, I think there's a, because at this point, now he's doing production, right? Yes, now that it's evolved, yes.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Before it was just doing something, whether it was funny or not. Yeah. But I think there's a skill or maybe it's just a lack of fear in being able to just make something. Just have it exist. I guess from me crafting jokes, I feel weird like just making something. I get what you're saying 100%.
Starting point is 00:44:17 It's like I want to at least have it decent enough to where I'm like, this is good. Not simply this exists, but it's like this volume like a person. to things that I've never wanted to do. Now Drusky is in the place where it seems like it's all quality and, you know, you know, volume. Yeah. But to go past that moment or that time frame of where you're just throwing shit out, I don't want that to exist.
Starting point is 00:44:47 But see, if I were analyzing like what you're talking about and say it in regard to Druski, one thing that you notice, like, that I've noticed, is that, he's not just daily going, here's some shit, here's some shit, here's some shit, here's some shit. These releases are quality. He's put time into like whatever the bit that he's going to do, the actual execution, and then the edit itself. Everything does have real thoughtfulness. And then when it comes out, it's like an event to watch these things. So he's not, but he's not just overdoing it.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Now he's not. And that's the thing. It's like he took the time to just throw shit at the wall. Yeah. Because to gain a following, it would be like, you know, black girls drink coffee like this. It doesn't matter how much thought it was beyond like that surface level. And I think there's a skill in being able to just put stuff up and just a fearlessness too. A fearlessness.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Just like, and it's hard to do that. for me, man. I'll look at a video like, this isn't perfect. Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah. Why would I even put this out when I should be thinking about the next one? You probably should, yeah. But you have to, there's a balance what you're saying. You should maintain
Starting point is 00:46:11 like some of your standards, right? Like where you go, yeah, I'm not just going to put out any bullshit that I think of or whatever. Yeah. But you can't get to the point of like it's not perfect so therefore nothing goes out. It's a balance. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:28 But what he's done is incredible now. I mean, he's like a studio at this point. I know. And I always think about, too, that, like, you know, like end game, like people always see most of the end game. And I'm like, I feel like what he's doing is an end game. Yeah. I don't, like, there's nobody doing it better than him at what he's doing. This last one I saw when he, you know, was talking about British actors.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Yeah. I was like, this is do a movie. It's so funny. Just do a movie, brother. So funny. I know he, you know what he kind of, like, you even saying it now, do a movie, I'm like, oh, this is kind of the closest thing we've had to Sasha with like Borat and Ali G in years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's really fucking funny though, man. Yeah. I'm not big into politics for reasons. But when he did that Eric. Oh, yeah. When he did that Erica. Oh, yeah. Just seeing people that mad,
Starting point is 00:47:27 man. It was so great. It was so great to see people so mad. Yeah, what a, what a, what a, a person. I don't want to call it unattractive, but Jesus, man. That bit was great, man. He's killing it, dude. Is that offensive to white people? Is that considered white people. Well, a lot of people that are, like, very far right, I think, postured as if it were a, I think if you took, if you go like the majority of white people, there's no way they were like offended by. Is white face a thing to you? No. Hmm. No. You know what I think and I, I, I don't want to get canceled by the black community. Yeah. For this take. I think black face is black face. White people playing black people, it's not black face. Right. Like what Robert Downey Jr. did, is not blackface, obviously. And people like it. Well, you're getting into like the nuances of like the term, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:34 And like what it means, yeah. But right. So this or anybody else. Shit, he's got like Ron Taylor hair. Crazy. Or even if, what was the Paul brother? Was it Logan or Jake Paul that said they were going to dress up like Drusky? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:48:51 One of the Paul brothers. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If they put on makeup to make themselves look like, Drusky. Yeah. That is not blackface. To me. It's different because like for to understand I think you have to understand what blackface the origins of it were and what that it's part of of the way that blackface evolved was doing it in this kind of careless ridiculous manner. Like one of the things you're seeing with with Robert Downey Jr. here
Starting point is 00:49:22 is that this isn't like just thrown together like where the they would literally take like shoe polish and be like, I'm black. That is blackface. Right. And that's the only distinction that I make. Now, if somebody did what Dave Chappelle did,
Starting point is 00:49:37 like in the last season of Chappelle show when he was like, he was a, I'm a white guy now. No, no, he was, it was like the one that he, the season where he wasn't doing,
Starting point is 00:49:48 it was just Charlie and Donnell. Yeah, yeah, there was an episode where he was playing a pixie in blackface. That shit is blackface. Now, if you did that, If Jake Paul did that, that I can imagine how one would get offensive or get offended. But if somebody made themselves to truly look like a black person.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Like he does there. Yeah. Yeah. Then it's like even if they do that and they say something racist, okay, sure, you are racist. But to me, you didn't do blackface. And the only reason I make that distinction is because if that's blackface, what do you call the shoe polish and white lips? Right. that is something that
Starting point is 00:50:26 So essentially you're saying like I think part of what you're saying is that if the effort is made to make it like believable like if it's high level makeup and there's an attempt to actually look like a black person like in this
Starting point is 00:50:42 image here right? Like he's... This isn't like shoe polish and white lips like you're saying this is like a high level makeup artist doing something. I'm saying I'm going a little deeper than that I'm saying this, we can call it whatever, and you can still be offended.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Beat them up. I don't care. Yeah, yeah. But this is blackface. Right. If you want to be offended at both, fine. That's blackface. This is some difference.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Do you remember when we had Ari and he was talking about in Estonia, can you pull that up? He said like in their singing competition shows or like whatever, their variety shows. Yeah. They'll just have someone be like, I'm James Brown. And like, they'll do that. And he'll perform, like, I don't know if you could see that guy.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Can you make that bigger? Like that. Jesus, that's horrible. Yeah, he's like, I'm James Brown. I mean. Yeah, now. But see, like, that's so poorly. It's poorly done.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Right. But he's trying to be a black person. Maybe we should call that brown face. Brown face, yeah. You know, that, that's horrible. But, no, that's not black face to me. That's not black face to you because what? It's not.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Because it's not black. I got it. Like, blackface was the red lips, white gloves. Menstrual shows. Menstru. That's black face. Yes. You do that.
Starting point is 00:52:06 We got a problem. You do this. Perhaps you're being insensitive. Maybe you're making fun of black people. Maybe you are a racist. Yeah. But that menstrual show shit is different. It's wild.
Starting point is 00:52:17 There are toys and figurines from that time. Of black face. Yes. Bambooz of the movie by Spike Lee. That shit was blackface. Yeah. What Drake did. That was.
Starting point is 00:52:27 blackface. That is just, that's just something that... That's just Italian. Yeah. That's just what it is. It's a guy from Sicily, man. What do you do? That's crazy, though.
Starting point is 00:52:40 That's crazy. He's like, get on up. With that makeup on, it's insane. It's fucking insane. Yeah, that's horrible. How much would it, how much would it take to get you in blackface? In real blackface? I mean, enough where I didn't have to ever wear.
Starting point is 00:52:57 work again. A pretty substantial amount. Yeah. Enough where I could hide and everything and have a security detail. It'd be a lot. It'd be a lot, man. But I feel like doing what Robert Downey did, like, in my opinion, like, I'm not, I'm not black, but I go like, oh, that's doing, like, fully committing to a character.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Yeah. I never interpreted it as. like he's doing, I know it's like, even in the movie, they're like, what are you doing? You know, he's like, I'm the character right now. Have you ever seen like the deleted scenes? Yeah. Of him in that character? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:40 It's, it's so skillful, so masterful that like, I mean, obviously there's people who wouldn't even know that's not a black dude. Yeah. Yeah. Like, so. And still, he could be a dirty fucking racist for all I know. But that, by itself. I don't think Robert Downey is, but that by itself is like, that's just, it's just imitation. It just happens to be good.
Starting point is 00:54:04 He's happy to be good at it, yeah. I mean, that's the whole thing about when you do any, whether it's black, Asian, Latin, if you're not one of these things and you do them, you do the voice or you're doing an impression, the more skillful you are at it where like that group goes, damn, that's good, the less it's perceived as you being offensive and the more it's viewed as being skilled and accurate. The more accurate you are, the more it's celebrated. You know what? I think we could relate this to like trans people.
Starting point is 00:54:45 The more you pass, trans women are women. Yeah. Blackface people, if they pass enough, you know what? Fuck it. You're black. Yeah. Now you're, blackface people are black faced, trans women are women.
Starting point is 00:55:01 There it is. I'm very progressive now. There you are. You're still progressive. You want to see, we did a game where we recorded, it's called Tom or Black, and I play an audio clip. And then you'd guess if it's me or a black person. Okay. Do you want to play?
Starting point is 00:55:17 Yeah, yeah. I don't see how I would not immediately know that if it's you or a black person, but I guess. That's the right mentality. Okay. Okay. You keep score. Okay, here we go. All right.
Starting point is 00:55:29 I'll play it as many times as you want, by the way. Okay. Okay, play it again. You know, I just remember. One of your albums, the one where you were wearing braids and I think, dressed like Michael Jackson. Oh, well, that's like two different albums. There's white girls with cornrows and there's thrilled. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Okay. I forgot you could do a very good black guy. I forgot. Why do you think we came up with this game? Okay. Play it again. One more time. So it's either.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Tom or a black person Alright one more time Damn I'm gonna go Tom Okay I left a wallet there No That's Tom
Starting point is 00:56:12 That's Tom That's Tom Say it again So king That's That's Tom That's That's Cricket right there
Starting point is 00:56:25 That's Tom You're writing that down Okay Quiet he came through do it again cry he came through that's got to be a black guy it's going on here
Starting point is 00:56:39 play it again it's calling on here I hope that's not Tom but I'm gonna say I'm gonna say a black guy I hope that's not you play again I think that's a black guy
Starting point is 00:57:01 that's telling Richard Pryor play again there's a lot of base There's got to be a black guy. All right, you did okay. Okay. I'll tell you, I was scared for a minute, Josh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Yeah. So you got... Hey, yo. So that is Tom. That's me. That's you. Okay. I left a wallet there.
Starting point is 00:57:24 That's me. That's me. That's me. That's me. That's cricket right there. That's you. That's me. You said black guy.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Yeah. That's me. Oh, wow. Yeah. What's going on here? What the fuck? That's a black guy. Is it?
Starting point is 00:57:42 Who's that? Right? Yeah. Yeah. That's just a guy from a video. Oh, that's funny. You said black eye. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:51 That's me. Wow. And then... Tomah going up the top row. That's me. What the fuck? So you did okay. Wow.
Starting point is 00:57:59 How many did he get right? Five. Five. Okay. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. You get five out of eight. You know what? I don't know if you've done this already or not,
Starting point is 00:58:09 but you should do like some voice. some voiceover work and play some black characters. Man, that would be a dream come true. Yeah. One time we were, but you know that's like very look down upon. Is it? Oh yeah, because what happened, what the general feeling from like industry is when you, when you do something like that for any, not just for a black, if you go like, I want to, especially when it's a different race, they go, that role should go to somebody of this group. And you're taking the job that could go to, let's say,
Starting point is 00:58:46 if you're like, I'm going to do an Asian woman, I'm going to do a Latin guy, I'm going to do a black guy. They're like, yeah, or you could just hire somebody who could actually, who is that to do that job. I've heard that. Yeah, I get that. But if the creation of the joke comes from you, comes from the fact that this person is doing this job,
Starting point is 00:59:07 So then this is a insert person job. This character is voiced by a white person. This black character is voiced by a white person. That's the joke. That's why this exists. Yeah, because what is that? American Dad, I think Chris is the character's name. And he'd be singing all this R&B.
Starting point is 00:59:27 And it's a white dude who like be singing Art Kelly. Like, I don't want that to be a black dude. It's less funny. It's funny because it's a white dude singing. like a black guy. Yeah, exactly. No, I mean, I'm not opposed to it. I always thought it'd be fun to do.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Hey, man, I'll support you. Thanks, man. I like to do it, although I have to be careful about that. You know, I just got some notoriety. And now there's a lot of my black friends and family and colleagues and coworkers and comedians who are looking at me like, so you, you down with Tony Hinchcliffe? Oh, like, you know. I don't want to be.
Starting point is 01:00:06 How do you answer that way? one. I don't really. I just like, man, you tripping. Because it's just happened. The roast just happened. The competition just happened. I didn't realize, there was a lot of, at least I saw online. I haven't had a lot of personal conversations about it, a lot of blowback online about roast jokes and it was written by white writers and these things are racist. I didn't have, it wasn't on my radar, but scrolling, I saw a whole bunch of stuff about it. Yeah. And like, I mean, people get mad at whatever. they get mad at.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Yeah. We as humans, we enjoy being angry and having a righteous fury, so I get it. But, you know, they don't know who wrote each joke.
Starting point is 01:00:47 I know. Like David Lucas was on there. Geron Horton was on there. Which jokes did they come up with? Yeah. They don't know. They don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:55 And I know these people. But I did, and I was at the Rose. This stuff was racist, of course, and all that stuff. But that kind of was the name of the game. So I don't, I've never understood the, the idea of like, you know, these people are anything because of their jokes, even sexes, racist, homophobic, transphobic. Even if that's true,
Starting point is 01:01:25 I've never got that, that because they're joking about this. That's what they are. This is what they are. I feel the same way. I also feel like, look, I'm not a roast expert, but what I do know about roasts if you've if you've been around them, if you go to them, you, even like the best roast writers will tell you that you go always to first thought and what is obvious. Like if you are roasting a black guy, you're gonna have black jokes.
Starting point is 01:01:56 If you're roasting a fat guy, you're gonna have fat jokes. You're gonna have, if he's gay, you're gonna, like that's the name of the game. That's how, that's literally how it's played. So, I, I'm not saying that like something can't be overboard or overdone or thoughtlet, like it can. But these jokes are going to be a part of who you're roasting. What is it about them?
Starting point is 01:02:19 And if you're famous, like the deus was, you kind of got to do your thing somewhat too. So Tony, in order to be Tony Hinchcliffe, has to give you some Tony Henscliffisms. And I think that's where that George Floyd joke came from. Like it, but like this, there are some jokes that I heard. And this is how I know we just like to be angry
Starting point is 01:02:43 at different things. There's some jokes that I heard and I was there. Yeah. That I just laughed at or winced at and thought that and about. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Then I go online and I hear people repeating these jokes or saying like, how could he say something like that? And I am like, yeah, I can fuck him. How can he say?
Starting point is 01:03:01 But it's like you weren't there. Right, right. It's different in the room. I'm telling you were there you wouldn't be, you would not feel that your brain is not registering these jokes like that. And if your brain isn't, the person who said it isn't like, you know, it's just, it's just different. I think the George Floyd thing was it.
Starting point is 01:03:21 So when we did the roast in our competition, I was thinking about stuff like that. And before it was the roast of Marshall Lynch, it was the roast of Kevin Hart. But then Kevin Hart was having an actual rose. so they made the competition roast Marshawn Lynch. Well, while I was thinking about Kevin Hart, I was thinking about like, because I'm not a roaster. So I had to watch roast and see like what people were doing.
Starting point is 01:03:46 And people were talking about death and everything. So I'm thinking about stuff like that to write for Kevin. I didn't do it because I'm like, I don't want to drag dead people into it. Yeah. But if it worked, then you pop like Nikki Glazer, then what? You don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:01 It's a fucking joke. Yeah, I totally agree. I got to take a quick piss break, dude. Hey, man. I'll be right back. I want to ask you, do you, I'm just curious from your perspective, do you notice, do you feel as somebody who worked the store and here, mothership, doing sets, do you notice any, like, is there a notable difference for you?
Starting point is 01:04:23 Oh, yeah. What do you, what do you pick up on? Just curious. The store, not the store, the mother ship is, and it's not a, a bad thing necessarily. This is just a thing. It's like a homogenized audience and crowd.
Starting point is 01:04:44 They're essentially one organism of a... I feel like that about Austin comedy as a whole, to tell you the truth. It's one type of audience. Now what that type of audience is, that's, you know, one can decide. But in L.A.,
Starting point is 01:05:00 I feel like it's a different type of audience. that all kind of share a mentality. And that mentality may be, I don't know, progressiveness or whatever, but there's different type of people. Out here, it's like a cult of, I mean, to be completely honest,
Starting point is 01:05:23 it's like a cult of the Rogan sphere and Kill Tony, which is, you know, part of the Rogan sphere, which is great. But it's almost like some of these people aren't necessarily coming to see comedy. They don't mind comedy. They might even enjoy comedy. But they came to be a part of the fucking shit.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Yeah. And they're excited and they're appreciative. And they're like, yes, let's eat elk. Yeah. Let's fucking. Let me see some wild shit. Yeah. And it's great.
Starting point is 01:05:56 I mean, I'm still here. Yeah. I enjoy it. And you need those different, you know, sectors of comedy. and you're going to have that. But, I mean, Austin is just smaller. Yeah, it is. We're talking about LA, we're talking about a scene that's existed, what, since stand-up or whatever.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Yeah, pretty much. So it's not even comparable. Like, the fact that you can have a scene of this quality, this fast, is amazing in itself. So, yeah, it'll take a while for, you know, something to branch off in Austin as big as J.R.E. and Kill Tony. but in a completely different, you know, sphere. There's no black shows out here. Right. You know, so that's a whole sector.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Other thing, yeah. I don't know where the gay shows are. They might be out here, but yeah, so it's one type of crowd out here. It seems like, and I can be wrong, but it seems like that. But, no, it's definitely different. Yeah, yeah. I want to show you before we wrap up a couple, these we call horrible or hilarious. And we just show you videos.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Are people going to get hurt? I don't know. I haven't seen them. Because I've had a pariscial relationship with you, obviously, for years. And I am aware that pain is funny to you. No. It's not to me. Okay, I'll tell you how this is done every day.
Starting point is 01:07:21 They put a folder together. I have not seen them. And we watch the videos, and we actually genuinely react to whether it's funny or not. Okay. So I don't know what I'm going to see. So I can't even tell you. I can't tell you. tell you if someone's going to get hurt. Okay, beautiful. Okay, he got hurt. I didn't even see him.
Starting point is 01:07:44 This guy at the bottom right, the tire just rolled off the highway and he was like having lunch or something. Wait, that tire. Jesus Christ. Locked him. I will say this, you laughed. You laughed. Because I didn't see the person at first. I thought it just hit something and the guy standing was like, oh. But you know what? This is the kind video where you don't see like a leg break, you know? At least it's blood. Yeah, it's like, it's grainy. And I think he might have a concussion. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Those tires move, brother. Yeah, those were really hauling. Jesus Christ. I was trying to be optimistic. He might be dead. Okay, here's, um, is he? Did he die? Don't tell me, I don't want to know, man.
Starting point is 01:08:35 I hope all these people are alive. Um, all right. Next one. Fuck. Let's see. I'll tell you if I, if I something about it. Oh, okay. This might be good.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Here we go. Here we go. Where is it? Oh, that's bad. You shouldn't do that. What the fuck? That was a bad idea. Why does he have an opossum in a bag?
Starting point is 01:09:07 Trying to kiss it. Because he was, he was, trying to show off. That's why this is what happened. He got that. It was probably, you know, somebody called him. Did his fucking lip off. And then he had to go get a rabies shot. Yeah. Yep. Oh, God. Don't show off, especially with wild animals. Why are all these brown colored people doing this ridiculousness? Show me some white people doing some ridiculousness. They're supposed to know better, man. You don't handle no damn possum in a bag. Funny to you or not funny?
Starting point is 01:09:43 Not funny. Not funny. Okay. Ravis is a horrible way to die. Thailand. Hold that motherfucker real quick. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. He said, let's go.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Ron liked that one. It's official. Because it looked like it hurt, but he got us immediately. See, once you see someone recover, you can, enjoy it more. And it's like, the more show-offy you are. Yeah. It's like, more earned. It's like, what even, this is, there's no part of this that is safe. Yeah. At least with the possum, it's like maybe you were trying to show the possum love and you're just stupid. That is just complete. Biffoonery. Yeah. He's, yeah. And here's the, he was not okay. He, um,
Starting point is 01:10:42 what? What? Well, he had to go, just, I think, seek some medical attention. He didn't die or not. Oh, yeah. Oh, God. Let's watch it again. Because this is in Thailand.
Starting point is 01:10:54 They're all having fun. Hold that motherfucker real quick. Hold that motherfucker real quick. Well, these are some chocolate place. Let's go. Jesus. Oh, shit. He said, let's go.
Starting point is 01:11:09 What the fuck. He landed on it. his face. Yeah. Yeah. Probably broke a tooth or three. Yeah. Fuck me, man.
Starting point is 01:11:18 One more. Here we go. This one, I have no idea. This is so dangerous. Please don't stabbing a tire. Stop it. Stop it. I saw the extended version of this.
Starting point is 01:11:42 He actually, he gets up. Yeah. Now, this is fucked up. You know what I mean? makes that funny. What? And all that African shit they were saying. I don't know what they were saying.
Starting point is 01:11:54 But it's just... And it's fucking... It sounded like a warning. That's a lot of pressure, man. You saw his feet to the side, both feet in the air. Yeah. He walked away from that. I should say he crawled.
Starting point is 01:12:17 But he left the scene. He was not there. What was he trying to do? I think this is a... It feels like it's a protest of sorts against either this company or like this, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Like fuck these guys. Yeah, I guess so.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Yeah, it looks all war-torn now that you said. Oh, I take it back. That's not funny. He already laughed. He liked it. He liked it. Damn. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Why did it do all that in sandals? I don't get that. Sandals everywhere, man. You had no Jordans or no Timberlins? Let's send some Timberlands to Africa. That could be like your charity that you start. Timberlands and who else be using sandals working on cars? Indians.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Yeah. Yep. We need boots in India and Africa. That's how we're going to advance as a world. This will be Ron's like version of Meals on Wheels. Tim's to the Motherland. Well look, dude, this was I'm so happy for you.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Congratulations. You deserve it. You earned it. You're ready for it. I'm so excited to see what you do with your special. But I hope you, I hope you savor the moments
Starting point is 01:13:38 like everything you're going through now. It's so cool to see. And you were amazing on that stage, man. It was really awesome. Man, I appreciate it. Good brother. I thank you. I want to thank all the people
Starting point is 01:13:50 that was in the show. period, you know. Yeah. The top four, Reg, Caitlin, Usama, who were killing it. My buddy Steve Fury was in the top 10, Felicia Foges. Everybody, obviously, I can't name everybody, but those were comedy store people. So that was a fun time, man. And I'm glad that you were a part of it. I was thrilled to be there. And there's dates. You can see them. Go to at Comedian Ron T. I can see that from this drops, you'll be at Levity Live in Huntsville, Alabama. You'll be at Zanis in Chicago, the improv in Tempe, the Funnybone in Albany. So you're out there, you're working, man.
Starting point is 01:14:28 It's going to be a different experience for you now. It's going to be pretty fucking cool. Yeah, you know, to have the people coming to me. It'll be interesting. Yeah, I think you're going to have a lot of fun with it, man. Well, congratulations. And thank you guys for watching. Thanks for listening.
Starting point is 01:14:41 We'll see you next week. Peace.

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