Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura - Tom Talks Ep. 1 w/ Tony Gonzalez

Episode Date: November 12, 2020

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Go to ymhvirtual.com right now and get tickets to the third YMH Live Crazy Guests and Crazier Content. Hey guys, we're doing something a little different today. There are people that I've wanted to have long-form conversations with, you know, just one-on-one, but it doesn't really feel like it's best for your mom's house podcast format, and that's what we're going to be trying to do. So it'll be sometimes, you know, maybe a sports person, business personality, somebody in the arts who you just go, I'd rather just be a conversation than do the your mom's house,

you know, clip kind of show. So I'm really hoping you guys enjoy it. I'm really excited to bring today's guest to you. I had a great time talking to him. He's a 17-year NFL vet and, of course, a Hall of Famer, a really interesting guy. So here's my conversation with Tony Gonzalez. This is big time! Who is Ramsey?

Don't bring anyone loving to this. Your mom in the fucking stand! All right. Thank you very much for joining us. Says here you used to play football. What was that like? There was a lot of fun. Thanks.

Have you done interviews like that where, like, sometimes for me, they'll go the best is when they go, hey, you know, I'm on the road and they're like, man, you're going to be in, you know, Chicago. There's this radio station. They really want to have you on and you're like, well, you know, we're coming in from Detroit and they're like, they're big fans and then you're like, okay. And then you show up and they're like, so how do you get on Netflix and you're like, what the fuck?

Like, that's your question. How do you get on Netflix? Have you had somebody be like, the NFL, that must be hard. And you're like, ah, shit. Yeah. Like, all right. Just kidding. Just kidding.

For a comedian, it's got to suck. Just you come in there and they're like, hey, be funny. It's the worst. That's when you know, see, I have a personality that doesn't work with that. So like when they're like, you're ready to be funny, I shut down and then I'll tank it on purpose. Really? Yeah.

I'm like, oh, I don't want to be a part of anything you do. It's like, I've done radio shows where like, you're like, they go, you arrive, like the best ones are when they're engaged, like they, they're actually asking, you know, questions that make sense and like shows that they're interested in like a good interview, right? And then the ones that are the worst, well, you'll show up and the guy's like, you know, read something. Then he's like, hey, and you're like, okay. And then he's like, are we coming back and what do you mean to ask you?

And you're like, whatever you want to know, what do you mean what I want you to do that? They're like, well, I'll set you up and you know, I'll be like, nope. And then you see them panic because they're like, hey, man, are you going to give me something to say because I'm lazy and I don't know what to ask you. And I'll be like, no, just go ahead, man. And then the thing starts and they're like, oh, it says you were born in Cincinnati and you're like, yeah. And they're like, is that the question that I would, where was it born?

Sure, man, we could do this. I mean, I just, I don't know, for, for a radio guy to just be like, be funny to me, it sets me in. What's the worst like the question to get from like in sports? Like when you're doing interviews, what would you roll your eyes at the most? I don't know. I think it's just because the quite, I think it's different though. I don't know if it's the same.

It's different. But there's like, you've got to be funny. Yeah, they do. They definitely know about it. What do you think about this game? Yeah. What do you think? What do you think the chances are for sets and sets to go all the way this year?

And you're like, okay, well, and then, but I don't know, that's, that's easy. I don't have to be funny. Yeah, that's true. I mean, there's so many like, as somebody, I've, like just, you know, loved football my whole life. And you see things that are, you know, like things that I kind of go, of course now when you hear the coverage is a, hey, there's a game coming up. What are the keys to the game?

And they're like, can't turn the ball over. Yeah. That is insightful, man. That's what we do in our business now. That's since I made that transition, obviously going to, to now in front of the camera and people want to know, I figured it out, it took me a while to figure it out that people don't, anybody can sit up there and talk. You could do that.

Yeah. You could read the scouting report and go, well, they run cover too and they put 50% of the time and just like, it's, it's no, it's, it's what Terry Bradshaw and Howie and Michael working with those guys now. I've seen that it's, it's entertainment. Terry always says that. We're in entertainment. We're in entertainment.

Yeah. We're not just telling, okay, cover two splits. That's true. We got to have a good time. Yeah. That's true. So it's like what you end up getting invested in as the viewer is the chemistry. You know what I mean?

It's like, yeah, I want to hear these guys talk about football, but I do want to see like some laughs and see that they get, I don't want to watch people that don't get along. Right. Like no one wants to see, oh, there's real friction between Terry Bradshaw and telling like, you know, that's not going to be fun to watch. And you want, I like a little bit more, like there's levels to the knowledge of the game. And so like as somebody, like, you know, I'm like probably like a lot of fans where I played high school, Pee Wee in high school football and you go, and I've watched football ever

since then. I like, I like college football. I like the NFL. I love getting like that little bit of extra knowledge where it's like, it's just more than you know, as a regular fan. Yeah. Like, you know, learning about shit that you guys, you know, that happens with cadences or, you know, all of a sudden you guys are pull up a thing and you go, see how in this

formation, it's a tell, like for some reason, this linebacker clearly studied tape because he's, he's look right before the snap, he's dipping back a few yards. And you go like, oh, I never would have put that together. But you guys study the film or whatever, watch it. And now as a viewer, you feel like you're almost have knowledge that you shouldn't have. You know, it's like extra insight. That's entertaining to me. Yeah.

You know, it's entertainment. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. I love it. That's the way I try to do it. Yeah. I always tell people, I just want people to pretend like, like the only thing missing

is our beer up here. Yeah. When we're on, on, in front of the camera and then given good information. Really that comes from, I think, like people want to hear stories too. Yes. Like back when I was in the locker room, Julio Jones, you should have, you know, Julio. Yes. He jumped 12 foot ceiling and touched it with two hands.

All those too. Yeah. And you're like, the freak athletic stories are, I think everybody that likes sports wants to hear that like, Hey man, this guy touched the top of the backboard. And there was like witnesses, you know, like shit like that. I don't know. I mean, that's, that's, everybody loves to, like, combine times, you know, like those Deion stories, like he ran them in fucking, I don't know, slippers or something.

Yeah. He gets out of the limousine. Yeah. Yeah. Or that, what's the story about him on draft day or something or pre-draft and the giants give him the plate, like their playbook or something. I didn't hear that one. You didn't hear that one?

No. Where it was like, he's doing, you know, like the pre-draft interviews. I mean, this is obviously 87 or 88, I guess, pre-draft interview and he meets with them and they have some type of binder and they're like, Hey, we want to ask you and he goes, he hands it back and they're like, What are you doing? He goes, When y'all, when y'all pick? And they're like, Fourth, he's like, I won't be around there and just walk out like shit like that.

The balls for that. Yeah. That's why he's so good on TV or or anybody who you just can't give a shit. Yeah. And us as athletes, this is why I think athletes, it's it's hard for most of us to make that transition to television because you being a comedian, you get to say whatever the hell you want. Yeah.

You can cuss, you can talk about politics, you can talk about race, sexual, people still get mad, by the way. Yeah. That's true. You guys are the freest people in society. I think you're right. I think but I think we're the freest people now, now that you can control your own space and and like your own content.

But you rewind just before this this current age and comedians would would definitely tow the line more. I mean, like, I think so. I mean, some there's always the ones who didn't ever give a fuck and just like Eddie Murphy right? Yeah. Like she was just like saying shit, doesn't care. But also, I think, you know, you have to weigh that those people are super successful.

So they're like, you know, people get mad, it's not going to affect my ability to work. But I think the difference is right now you have all these comics have their own platforms, their own, you know, channels and and and shows. And they're not relying on, oh, will will NBC still consider me for something? Because if NBC is going to be upset by something, then I should pull back like that's starting to erode. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Yeah. And as athletes, we there's there's only so many jobs out there for for television. Did you want to do it like like when you were playing? I was preparing for it. I had a show out in Kansas City called that Marcus Allen had first. Oh, yeah. It was called the locker room show.

And it was just for local television. So when he left, I got there in 97. I played with Marcus and then which a boy coming from LA playing with Marcus Allen was pretty cool. Yeah. That's pretty cool. But so when he left, I took over the show for three years or whatever. So that kind of got me going.

And but that's also like in the plans, right? You're like, this is going to end playing and then that's what I'll. I didn't know if I was really going to do it. But I knew that, OK, if it was in there, I'm like, shit, I better get ready then just in case. Yeah. If I do want to do it. I can like an idiot.

You know, dude, how are you walking around? Let's start with this. So like, I mean, use like all these stories and you know, you see like real sports and they're like, you know, this guy played five seasons and now he he looks at a board to spell words that a computer will say for like crazy brain damage. Guys are like my knees don't my hips. And then like you see someone like you played 17 seasons, the NFL, you're like, Hey, what's up, man?

Like how the fuck are you put together? Like, I get a lot. I got lucky. Yeah. I do believe that genetically to like some people are just running down the the field now. Yeah. And you see him like, oh, he tore his ACL and nobody even touched him.

That's true. So that never happened to me. I think it's luck. But because there were so many times where I'm blocking and the defense of let's say our offensive linemen threw his player on the ground next to me and my coach is like, shit, don't look at this right here. Right. And I look at it on film.

And it's not. It's like a half of a half of a second. I think he's off. You didn't lift your foot up. You'd be down for the for the year. I've had that happen a bunch of times. Sure. So it's luck right there.

But then also when you're like, you look at a Gronkowski. Yes. Of the tight end. Great tight end. His career got shortened because I think his style of play. It's very like Jeremy Shockey. I don't know if you remember it. Of course.

Where he catches the ball and he's coming like, yeah, I'm coming to run your ass over. And I'm going to get as many yards as I can. Like to me, there's a there's a time and place for that. I would do that. But I also would finesse it. I'd finesse it a lot. And I think that was my basketball background where it was like, hey, you got to use a little finesse here.

Get your ass down. Like like Russell Wilson right now. Yeah. I think he's going to be able to play for a long time where I look at deck Prescott, where he got hurt. Yeah. And his foot was sideways. And I got kind of rough.

It was so sad for him. But then at the same time, I was like, what are you like, you got to get down. But I mean, you got to live to fight another day like Russell Wilson. I doubt that would happen. And then there's freak accidents. You never know. Of course. I don't know.

I always felt like it is like it is like a combination of these things, right? Because like, you know, you, like I said, you know, the first, there's like the average NFL career thing where it's like three seasons. Like so you not only surpass that, like by multiples, but to be healthy, I mean, it's it is pretty. I mean, so you're saying though that part of that is yes, you're your genetics and you're, you know, it's lucky, but it's that you were also playing smart. I was always trying to play smart.

So taking the hit when the guy comes over the minute, I see I'm about to take a shot. I would stop my feet and you probably couldn't even tell, but I would stop running right before he hits me. And then I would jump back as he's hitting me. And so the crowd would go, ooh, like it's a big hit and I'm like, well, I'm protecting my body. I protect my body and I'm fine. Yeah.

And the guy can get up and celebrate, but I'm fine because you, did you tell other players this? Like, you know, as you became like also, I'm like, Hey man, you're going to fucking die. Like, well, take care of yourself. Well, yeah, you tell people, but they don't, they don't. Yeah. Because I remember, there's another Miami dude, speaking of shock, yeah, Brendan Merriweather, was that?

Yeah, it was Merriweather. He was a, he was a- The defensive bat? Yes. The defensive bat. He used to come now, people used to go. That's what I'm saying though, but like he would crown, crown hit people all the time. And like, and then, you know, the NFL, there was like a period where it became like, you're

used to seeing that. And then they were like, we're not doing that anymore. But he would still do that. And you're like, you're getting fined. You're knocking yourself out and on top of other people. But it's like, I guess what I'm saying is it doesn't matter how many people probably told him, like, stop doing that. Stop doing that.

It's just like- So I remember, I think, I remember playing against him and I, before the game even started, I went up to him. Yeah. Because he had hit a couple of guys' knees and blew out their knees and I said, Hey man, relax. Don't, don't go to my knees. Okay.

You would actually say that to him? I would tell him that. Yeah. Before the game. And then he'd back, all right, well, don't, don't try and run me over then. Don't, don't make me look stupid. We'll take care of each other. Yeah.

And I said, well, if I, if I have you in, if you're in front of me and you see me and I see you, I'm going to do what it takes. And the same thing. Come knock the shit out of me if you can. But if I'm not looking, don't hit me down low. Just hit me up top. I promise you. Like, I was like, I'm not saying I'll go down, but I mean, just, just do that.

Yeah. And he would do that. And during the game, I remember one time he hit me and he comes up and he goes, Hey, I could, I could have got you there. I could have got you there. I'm like, thank you, man. Thank you. Thank you.

Okay. So what was that type of conversation? That better one comment at all. No, but I mean, not just about specific about, Hey, him and what he's in the way he's tackling was like the pregame, Hey, dude, like, let me, let me holler at you for a second about whatever. Yeah. Like, was that a comment?

Did you? I did that. You did do that. I did that. And I think you could do that when you get older. Once you establish yourself. Yeah. I wasn't doing that in my first, you know, five, six years.

You're a rookie. Hey, man. Let me talk to you real quick. Hey, Ronnie Locke. Come here. What? Um, wait, when you were in, cause it is rare, obviously that you played college basketball too.

Um, how, like, how soon you, you said one time like that you, I mean, obviously you knew you were a superior football player. Right. Yeah. If you were equal at both, would you have leaned to basketball? Oh, I would have been basketball for sure. For sure. For sure.

Yeah. I mean, basketball is a lot more fun than football. Yeah. And cause, you know, you're inside, there's no, there's no, you know, there's no zero 20 below. Yeah. In December. Yeah.

It's not a hundred degrees, 110 degrees out in Atlanta during the summer or Kansas City. That shit is so brutal. Man. Oh, it's tough. It's a football is a tough way to make a living. It is. It's a tough way. It's the most exciting sport.

I mean, yeah, I think I can say that the, I don't even have to say the viewers say that, but yeah, basketball was just, it's just smaller group. It's not as a dog eat dog world, like, like it's a football is a man sport. Like it's, it is, you will get bitched if you don't play right. It's so sad. I mean, like, I think one of the things that hits you when you love, love football and you play it on an amateur level is that you get around just around the higher level tiers of it.

And you're like, this is so different. Like this is like the, the levels of the athletes, the speed, the power that hits. You're like, this, this really is like gladiatorship. Yeah. Well, it's just that even at the high school level, you have to go into that, that other dimension of, okay, like you said, like, like, no one's dying, obviously, but it's like, you got to go there. You can't, you can't like, not take it all the way.

You got to be as aggressive as you possibly can. Like the, and I love about coaches, like that even there's, you don't like to have like the lingerie football thing and you think, obviously, if you're watching that, you're like, come on, man, like, is there anything else on like, you know, I mean, like they're, they're not really, but then you watch this coach who's coaching, right? He's coaching the girls lingerie stuff. Yeah. And listen to how he, like, this is exactly how the coaches I remember, right?

You're going to let that motherfucker must shoot down out like that and you ain't breaking that bitch's face right now. You mean to tell me you're going to allow that motherfucker to do what she done and you didn't come out here and try to break her fucking neck and you can't find her, find her teammate and break her fucking neck for what the fuck she done to you down now. You mean to tell me you ain't got that kind of evil streak and you, I would be, I would, I would literally height the ball and punch that bitch in the goddamn face. Are you crazy?

Don't ever let anybody do you like that. I love him. Like, I love, I mean, all right, it's a little, you shouldn't break next, but the point is, I can't condone that. You can't condone that, but you can condone the, it's the mentality. It's the mentality of like, I remember, like watching that clip reminds me of a seventh grade football coach who's like, are you going to let these guys just push you guys around like that?

That's the pregame speech. Yeah, right. Back in the day. Back in the day. I mean, they wouldn't say break their necks, but they would say, if you're not going to hit somebody in the face, why don't you even sign up the place and you go, starts putting it in your head when you're young. Yeah.

Yeah. Be the hammer, not the nail. Yeah. Every time. Bring the pain. Bring the pain. Yeah. And it's, it's fun, but you know, that, that, that's, I think that's going away.

That right there. I think it's, I don't know how old that clip is. Not in, not in women's football, it might be going out of men's football, but it's just, it's just firing up the women's league. Break their fucking necks. Well, they got, yeah, I can't condone. Yeah, yeah. Oh man, I love it so much.

Yeah. I mean, I remember, dude, I remember when I was, I went to Chris Dolman's football camp when I was a kid. I remember Chris Dolman for the Vikings, right? Yeah. Hall of Famer. And, and, and we were the, you know, they bring like with those camps, they bring in all, you know, their friends and players.

And there was a one, I forget his name, man, there was a packer who came in who was like a running back. But first of all, you know, I don't even like football that much. We're like, what? Like you're in the NFL. He's like, I wish I could play basketball. Yeah. This shit is brutal.

And then he started his like thing, but like, he started off by telling us that he wished he was not in the NFL. Football has changed a lot though. When I came in in 97, it was that league of just, God, what was the Oklahoma drill? Yeah, yeah. Bull and the ring type stuff. Yeah. They could, when you go over the middle, I mean, the game, they wanted to knock you

out of the game. Concussion, they didn't, that word was never used. It was got your bell rung. Bell rung. Oh, are you okay? Get back in the game. Yeah. But the NFL has done such a good job of changing that.

Now, the game is considerably safer where they've taken the head out of the game and they've done it the high, like we're talking before. I have my son who played varsity, played football last year. Yeah. He, it's different. They're coaching at that level too. And you see it now. Guys are tackling, you know, between the knee and the head.

That's where you're supposed to hit. Yeah. Of course. And like, I mean, people ask me, they go, because they'll know I like football and they go, would you let your sons play football? And I go, yeah. And they go, really? Even with all this news?

I'm like, first of all, like if there's anything that I do, like that I can credibly talk about, it's playing, like I played Pee Wee and high school football. And my thought on it is that most of your hits in those, those years, most are like it's form tackling. You're not playing against Tony Gonzalez every week. You're playing against other fucking fat sophomores. So like they're not like, they're not impressive. Like I remember, I mean, I had Heath Evans on here because we played high school football

against each other. And I go, I remember that hitting you was different. Like even back then we would even, I can remember being in high school and being like, God, that guy is a truck. And then of course, we graduate, we watch him go on to Auburn and you're like, oh, yeah, that dude was notably different. But I go, you take that game and then all the other, I go, that's the only game where we're like, this is a problem hitting this guy.

But everybody else, it's like, I go, could I have been concussed with him? Yeah, I probably was. That one dude versus all those games, I don't know, I don't feel like I have to run away from the sport because there might be somebody out there who's a fucking rocket launcher or something. You know what I mean? Like it's not, I understand the comments of people saying like, if you are talking about D1, if you are going to D1, like you're definitely going to feel that impact every play and you

need to be that level athlete too, to be able to deal with it and so on and so forth. But I'm just not as freaked out about that little league stuff. Yeah, I want my kid, they played and they want to play. Go ahead. Yeah. But I deny you something that I did. Yeah. And they bought this house, kids.

Yeah. You like this food? You like to close your wearing? Yeah. Yeah. Dad bought it with football. Yeah. Take it.

Yeah. Tell them every day. It's my house. It's yours. Yeah. Now, I said you're an anomaly and I mean it. I mean, you have to be, like first of all, how many NFL players do you think current or former are on flights reading books and taking notes about the book?

Like that's what I saw you doing on a flight and you're sitting there reading your book and taking your notes. For yourself, I assume. Yeah. It's for myself. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, are we up to maybe three?

Three. Current or former players that would do that? Oh, that would do that? You'd be surprised, but yeah, it's not a common thing. Yeah. For sure. I don't know. Is it that common for anybody?

Yeah. That's another good point. Yeah. Do people really want to read books? No, that's true. I don't know. I mean, you, doctors. I don't know.

I'm curious. I'm curious. I did this at my hall of fame, so books changed my life. I never read when I was a kid or high school or college. When did you start? Barely even required reading. I wouldn't read the book. I'd get the cliff notes.

When did you start? And I've told this story a bunch. I have my second year in the league. I led the league and dropped passes in the NFL and got benched twice, got booed by the home crowd. I don't remember that at all. Oh, yeah. I mean, I was playing, but I got benched twice.

And my stepbrother, my doctor brother, Donny, he sent me a book of quotes by Vince Lombardi. Hey, and I was like, I don't know, you know, Vince Lombardi, everybody knows Vince Lombardi. The greatest moment of a man's life is when he lies totally exhausted on the battlefield, glorious and winnings, all those quotes. And so off of that, I was like, I was pretty charged up. I'm like, well, this is some good stuff. I need this in the middle of the season was almost over. So I went out and bought his book.

When pride mattered or whatever, it's a thick book. And I read the whole thing in like five, six days because it was just speaking to me. Like it was a page turn and I couldn't put it down. And then I'm based off of that. I was like, holy shit, I've been, I've been doing it the wrong way. I thought I was working hard. I thought I was doing it the right way. I was, it wasn't because I was lacking, like I was out partying and doing a bunch of stuff

I shouldn't have been doing. I was, I was, I thought I was quote unquote doing it the right way, but there was another level there. And that book taught me that. And so off of that, I was like, well, I want some more of this. And I started reading like, like about Michael Jordan's routine and started reading about Lou Holtz books, Pat Riley, Phil Jaxson, and started going through all these books. And then I started getting in all these, and it just spiraled out of there.

And books is like, this is great. It changed my life. Yeah. And so that's why today, I always have a book that I'm reading. Wow. So it not only like opened you, like obviously made you curious and you loved consuming the knowledge, but those books are at least like in specifically some of these ones helped change how you started to prepare for the game.

Change everything. Really? Well, because you start reading about other people, say you're a comedian and did, I don't know, who's the best comedian. Right. So he's like, okay, there's a book on Chapelle on his life and like how he and it's out there. I'm sure. Right.

Okay. What does he do? Like why Chapelle? Why is he so funny? Right. What's making him who he is? I'm very curious. He's like, well, I smoke two packs of cigarettes a day.

And I do a six hour set. And you're like, great. I'll pick up both of those. Six hour sets. Dude, he will. He like, he like, not doing them right now, but in regular times, there's multiple, like you can check it with the punchline in San Francisco. I'm sure in date.

I know Melrose in the store, he would come in commonly do three and four hours, but it's not, it's not what you're, it's not a three and four hours of like just like, like when you watch a special. Yeah. It's him. That's how he basically writes, right? So he'll go up there and they're, everybody's so enamored with him and he's such a master of not just being funny, but being interesting in conversation that he'll go on those long

ones, sit there, what do y'all want to talk about? Start talking. They have seen him. Yeah. And then it could be like 25 minutes of just like. Just talking. Just talking. And there's no, you don't feel like you're at a comedy show, but you feel engaged.

And then when we all of a sudden hit like a maybe 10 minutes of just rocking and just, you know, huge laughs and then, you know, something happens, starts talking about that. And all of a sudden you're two and a half, three hours in, you know, but he's very, very unique. And I don't know that that, I mean, that type of preparation would even translate for more people, but I get, I get what you're saying. Like I'm just saying him specifically very unique in that, in just the ability to do that, you know, like you told me, Tom, go tonight, just go do four hours.

I'd be like, no, I don't want. I wonder, I bet you could though. I bet I probably could if here's the thing, if you're in an environment where I think it helps in that kind of thing to be in a small, small space, everybody wants to be there. In other words, they're, they came to see you. Yeah. They're, they're, you know, they're that interested in you.

I can see going long. I could see that going long. I think what always, I was kind of blew my mind was how long I'm like, you've got to be, I don't want to talk to anybody for fucking six hours. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? I'm like, my wife, my parents, my friends, like six hours, but like he, there's a couple other people that could do like those really long sets, but I think they have like a real

stream of consciousness thing that they tap into. Well, I believe all into that stuff too, that it's like the Beatles, there's a great book called Outliers. I'm glad. Yeah, I've read that. You've read that book. Remember the story? I think that's where the 10,000 hours come from.

10,000 hours types thing and there is, there's some, there's also talent and genetics. And the timing. And the timing. The timing has to work out. But like with the Beatles, right? Yeah. They were, they were working at that place playing eight hours a day. Yes.

And that 10,000 hours thing applies, I believe 100% to stand up. Like when I think back on my own career, and I, you know, some of us talk about this sometimes about like, remember those years where you go like, wow, man, like I was working a day job and all week was about like getting to Saturday to go to a place that didn't even want me to go on and then, and I would do 10 or 12 minutes. And the joy of those 10 or 12 minutes would carry me through my next week. Like, you know what I mean? Like I so was like high off of that that I would be like, I don't care about how shitty

this job is. I can't believe I get to do that again next week. And then, you know, shit, shit gigs and bars where like they don't want to like turn the TV off. You're like, how am I supposed to talk to these people? We always have this thing where we go, the worst thing, the worst was the Lakers and the playoffs. Right.

If you live in LA and you do comedy, like as soon as they made the playoffs, you'd be like, fuck, like shows are going to be fucked this month because like people will go to shows less. And if you try to have a show during a game, they would be like, no, your show is waiting. Like the game is the priority. Like, you know, so like those May, June shows, you were like, Oh God, man, like, please either let's just get past this or lose so that we can do shows. Yeah.

Well, being a comedian, I'm fascinated with comedians. Yeah. Like I watch all the little specials. There's that one. I don't know if you've seen it called dying of laughter. It's a documentary. It's amazing. Dying of laughter.

Which one is that? Oh, it's amazing. I'm telling you, this is it blew me away the process. And you talked about going out on the road. It's all about and they have some really good, I think Kevin Hart, like some headliners in there talking about it. I can watch that. Oh, you got to see it.

You got to see it. You know, you'll you're laughing. Is that it? Yeah. Dying laughing. I'm sorry. Dying laughing. And they talk about their process and how you have to go out on the road.

Like you talked about and you're playing in some little Hobunk town and nowhere. And the guy's like, he's like, I had to pay him to perform. Oh, yeah. And people are like on their lunch break, listening, not even listening to you. We were talking about how we used to in these early days, we would you'd be booked. Like someone would be like, OK, your spots over here at this like restaurant or something. And you're like, OK, and you show up. And then right then you'd go, do the people at this restaurant know there's a show?

And they're like, no, and you're like, wait a minute. So we are we're attacking them like with a with a show while they like, you mean they just they just want to have dinner with their spouse. And we're like, no, no, no, no, you're going to watch stand up. And they're like, I guess so. I was like, oh, my God. So that sucks because they're like, it's not like they're like, I'm not a fan. They're literally like, I'm trying to eat.

Yeah, shut up. And like, I didn't I didn't come to a comedy show. And you're like, you are now. You're at the show now. That's what I'm saying. It's so fascinating. Yeah. Like, it's the scariest thing I could ever think of.

Yeah, I get that. I mean, the earth, like when I think of like the first spots I ever had there, they are some of the most terrifying moments. How do you and bombing like bombing that's what they talk about a lot in their dying. It's actually I was crying watching that documentary because I'm seeing these comedians. They start crying because they go back to they take us back to when they bombed. Dude, it is it's the worst feeling ever. It would be like it would be like if it was like fourth and goal and you caught the ball

on the one and then instead of crossing to the goal line, you ran to the other end zone and then shit your pants. And then everybody was like, what happened to that guy? You're like, I bombed. That's what just happened. It's the worst feeling. It's got to be the worst. And it happens a lot though, right?

It's not. Well, it does. Beginning at the beginning. It's like a lot more and and it is like what it is is like it's like an internal panic. It's funny. You could be you could be in it could be 25 degrees outside and if you're bombing, you'll start sweating, you know, like it's panic sweats and you just feel like you want to. It's like the feeling of you want the parachute to open.

You know, you're like, man, and especially if you have time, like you need to keep going. You like sometimes when you're starting out, you're doing 10 minutes set. So if you're bombing, at least it's over in 10 minutes, you know, as you're further along, you could start a set each shit with your first joke and be like, well, I'm going to try to recover and you don't. And you're like, I have to do this for another half an hour or like it's it's rough, man. What do you way? Have you ever been booed off?

Yes. You've been booed off. They were like, please leave. Yeah. Yelling. The whole crowd's like. Oh, you suck. Fuck you.

Yeah. Like it was. Yeah. Really intense, intense. And here's the thing though. I just couldn't imagine. You know what? Like that's not the worst.

I've been booed. I guess I guess I have been booed, but being booed offstage doesn't feel the worst because it feels unwarranted. Like it's it's so you know what I mean? Like if somebody like says like, hey asshole, you know, the fuck's like calls you out in a room, you might be like, oh my God, like it's just kind of embarrassing. But if everybody was screaming at the top of their lungs, you're like, hey, like this it feels too much.

I almost feel like the the worst bombs are quiet bombs where you're like going for a laugh and then you just hear like nothing like somebody like like like cleaning their teeth like you're like, okay, like that feels worse than like because when someone's that upset, you're like, I'm just telling like you're so mad that you're yelling for me to leave. I feel like, you know, but it was surreal was surreal. But you guys are like a conductor to at least what I've seen the comedy shows that I've gone to if like when somebody bombs and then the next guy up who even I've had committed

they'll be like, hey, I got to get the comedy. I got to get the laughter back in here because you guys this person just just H. Oh, yeah. Like people don't realize what you want to follow in comedy is somebody who does really well. Yeah. And those set on those shows where it's a lineup of like 10 plus comics. Sometimes people will think they're like, well, that guy sucked.

So now you'll shine like, no, you want the guy to do well, get the room laughing and feeling good and ride the wave. Yeah. The waves already there. If somebody kills in front of you, you can actually jump on and just keep it going. Yeah. If somebody just eats shit or like says something that just ruins the room, you're doing the work to bring them back to being a regular show.

Tell me this. How do you deal with the bombing? How do you like emotionally it's it's actually it's very it's a good question. It's very it is it is an experienced man. Like the thing is when you when you start off, you don't even know how to process it. You do things like psychological things, like tell yourself, you know, it wasn't you, you know, it was them and then you you start to a lot of times, you know, you record your sets.

So you start going back and you go, oh, the phrasing or or they didn't get it. Like you start to rationalize why you did poorly, you know, like you would it's like justifying a mistake or a bad decision. You know, you start to like make make it make sense to you. Yeah. The simple answer is that the only solution to bombing and having a bad set is having a good set. So like I remember nights where like even, I don't know, a year ago or so, I remember

doing a set in town at a place and and I did a joke that went fucking sideways. Like people were like, you should leave. Like they were upset about it. And it still sucked. I was like, I'm like 18 years in and I was like, man, that sucks. So I just went drove to another place, did a set with the same joke and it killed. And then you feel like that the the emotions of it, because if you leave after just that bombing set, you take that with you.

You take that home. It's gonna be hard to sleep. You're hard to sleep. Well, that's what they say. Comedians are. Yeah. They're not right in the head. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not right. Yes. What they say. Yes.

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A lot. Like a lot. Yeah, all the time. I used to see like, you know, those NFL films coverage things and it was like, like it was just like a great win. He's like, you guys, well, that was him. Like, you knew it was coming and it was never, never hardly tears though. Oh, really?

It was choked up. He'd be in the front, especially if you ever talk about Trent Green or Trent Green and he was in, yes, he was our quarterback and he had hurt his knee. And so that's when Kurt Warner came in and Kurt Warner just the rest is history. Yes. But that was Trent Green starting before the Rams, before they won that Super Bowl. That's right. And so Trent goes down and he comes over to us and that's what anytime Dick would

talk about Trent, you knew it was common, but it was never tears. It was just like, you know, and Trent Green. He's a good boy. He's a good guy. And would guys like, they would take it well. You'd get it at the beginning. You're like, oh, like your eyes are getting wider. Like, well, I care.

But I think like most coaches, yeah, I think great coaches are the ones that are nice and steady, like Bill Belichick is the greatest, just consistent, never too high, never too low because you get those emotional coaches when you, it's great when you're winning, but when you start losing, that's when you start to lose the team because if you've only got two wins on the season and you're two and 10 or two and eight, you're tired of the shit. You're like, hey, I can't have any more. It's not working.

You're doing all this raw, raw stuff. It's not working. And you look at someone like Pete Carroll from Seattle Seahawks. I love him. I would love to play for him. He's enthusiastic, enthusiastic, energy positive. He's a very positive guy. A couple of years ago, they went through that little losing phase.

Like it was starting like there was little rumblings that he's going to get fired and all this stuff. And the guys were getting tired of it because, you know, when you're losing, nobody just, I just want to go to work. Do you as a player ever have the thing when you're, when you're a fan at home, right? And this is nothing new to you. But you know that like, you know, fans watch games and they're like, why the fuck are they passing the ball in third and whatever, you know?

Like, why aren't they running the ball in third and two? Yeah. When you're on a team and you're a player, do you guys ever have those same like, right? Like, why are we every game, every game, every game in the huddle? I'm complaining. Really? Yeah. Well, if it's third and if it's third and four, yeah, third and four and third and five. Yeah.

That's where I'm like, hey, you come, come, come, come to the big dog. I can get this. Yeah. And then we run the ball or something like that, or they call a play that I know and that's coming, that's not going to come to me. I'm like, what the hell? And you were off the slide and like, what are we doing? Yeah, because I'm, I'm the, I'm, you're all pro like I, I've showed you, I've caught this a thousand times.

Yeah, literally. Why wouldn't you call my number? Yeah. I don't understand it, but, you know, that's, that's coaching, that's playing and that's, that's, that's normal. When do you know, like, is there a, is there a moment or is it a transition where you realize you're not just like in the NFL and a, and a good player, but you're actually you, you're like, oh, I'm going to probably be in the hall. Like, is there, you know what I mean?

Like it's so hall of famers, like you guys are, you're the outliers of the outliers. And I mean, like it's so, it's so remarkable to be in that group. It's a pretty special group. It's such a special group. I mean, and I think a lot of fans, like if you really follow the, you know, the games and you realize it like, man, these are the standouts of the, like the, the fraction of the percentage of people that make it the NFL. And then these are like the very, very best.

Is it like through your career, you're like, oh, well, I guess this is that this is building to that. I never, well, you start to hear it from people. People start saying it. I remember Kellan Winslow is a tight end in the hall of fame. Yeah. Oh, senior senior. Junior's got a little extracurricular stuff going on.

Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Not right now. Yeah. So anyways, I was doing something at a golf chair and I'd gone to a couple of Pro Bowls by then and he comes up and he's like my guy, you know, like, you know, I look up to the tight end and, and he comes up to me and he goes,

he said something, he goes, Hey, hall of famers over there. And he was talking to me. It was the first time someone ever said that to me and it's coming from Kellan or at least the first time I ever heard it. And this is, are you like 10 years in or I'm about five, it's about seven years, seven years into the NFL. So I'd gone about about five Pro Bowls at this point. Okay.

And so I was on my way. Yeah. But you know, you still don't, hall of fame, like that's a whole, that's a, it's really, there's only 200 and when I got in, there was only 226. So now there's 231 players. Yeah. There's, there's, you know, like 60 executives. They have like broadcasters.

And yeah, yeah, yeah. But players, that's it. That's really small, man. One year. That's really small. Yeah. So it's, you don't think, at least I didn't, at least that was, people were like, how does it feel?

Did you always think you'd be a hall of fame? Like, no. Yeah. I mean, it's a crazy thing to say. Was it hard to, cause I, I keep going. The, one of the things that I appreciate the most, not just in athletics, I mean, in all careers, but yeah, especially in athletics is longevity, right? And, you know, we talked about that you played smart.

You're taking care of yourself. Is it hard to motivate yourself for season 15? Yeah, it is. It does. I mean, you go through a little lulls. It was, it was harder in the middle of my career. Yeah. Where, you know, I was showing up and it was the same because football, it is, it's

a bunch of just, it's routine. Yeah. It's just doing the same thing over and over and over and over again. There's no real, besides the games, the week, there's no creativity. Uh, there's nothing you haven't seen before. So that got kind of old for me. I'd have to look for ways to, and I'd write like little letters to myself, uh, little ways to keep motivating myself.

Like they say Jordan would do that. He'd make shit up in his head to get himself motivated. And that's what I would do. I'd back here. They're doubting you before. I'd write it out and you, they think you're old. They think you're overrated. They're saying such and that's better in you.

You would write that matter. Yeah. I'd write it to myself. And then I'd read that before the game. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, just not good. It's not true. That's awesome. But towards the end of my career, you started to save.

I started to save it because the window was over. Like after you get to year 12, you're like, shit, I only got one year left. Yeah. And then I'd play that. So I would be like, okay, I'm going to put everything I have into it. Enjoy it. I really enjoyed myself when I got to Kansas, uh, to Atlanta, my last five years. I was Kansas City 12 years and then went to Atlanta for five years.

And I was only going to play two years in Atlanta, but I kept coming back. Uh, and you're enjoying your teammates. I enjoy my teammates and they were paying me pretty well. Yeah, that helps. That always helps. When I got to the league, uh, it's, there was a difference. And it wasn't like these half a billion dollar contracts. It wasn't like that at all.

I remember my, my rookie deal, I signed a six year deal for $7 million. And I got a $3 million signing bonus, which is a lot of money. Yeah. Okay. I'm not out of touch. Yeah. But comparatively speaking, that's not shit compared to what you're getting now. I remember back then the guys on my team were like, damn Tom, it's that seven rich boy.

Like, whoa, uh, what was the first thing you bought that was like, you know, of, that wasn't cheap, you know what I mean? Like, did you buy something? A house, a house, a house for $270,000 in KC in Kansas City. Wow. Very to finish the, what was it? Like, was it nine and a half bedroom for five thousand square feet? Wow.

Out in the suburbs of, of Kansas. Wow. That's wild. You know, I also look back now, like with some age on me, I go, I have way more compassion for young guys, uh, not knowing how to handle their money. Like, you know, when I was, when I was the age of the player, I was like, these fucking, why are you spending all your money? But then as you get older, you're like, Oh, yeah.

Like who the fuck's ready for like, whatever, three million or 25 million dollars at 22. Yeah. Like, I wouldn't know how to handle that then. No, who does? I mean, musicians don't. Actors don't. No.

Kid actors giving Justin Bieber, you know, that much money. Yeah. Why do you expect them not to go a little crazy? Of course. And everybody tells you how great you are and you got millions of dollars to get whatever you want. And why? And then like, you know, most people probably are like, yeah, this I'm, this

is always going to happen. Just, you know, I mean, these checks are going to, I'm 22. These are coming in all the time. And then, you know, and then you, then you start, you start if you're a fan of the nightlife. Yes. Uh, which, uh, I was, I was a good fan of the nightlife. Yeah.

I enjoyed. You had a good time. I enjoyed going on. I was single for 10 years. Oh, you had a really good time. Yeah. I enjoyed myself. What was the best thing to go to for having a good time?

Miami and Miami and Vegas. Okay. Oh, nothing's changed. I like Miami and Vegas. I mean, you can't really. I still do. Yeah. I mean, you can't have a good time in Miami.

You know, you got a problem. Especially the Latino in here. Oh, yeah, of course, man. I mean, parties like I've been to Miami where they're like, cool. We'll meet up at midnight and you're like, wait, what? We're going to meet up at midnight. Yeah. Buddy might has a Halloween party out there every year and I never

gone to it because of football, but, but on the invite, um, it says, uh, from, from nine o'clock till, uh, 10 a.m. Yeah. Nine to 10 a.m. The next day. That's a party. It's a party. That's a party.

I'm like, I'm like, and if it has that little, uh, little Lasham McCoy touch where he's like, uh, no males allowed. You know what I'm saying? We're not looking for men to come. He has like his circle of friends is like, it's just going to be us and ladies like that's a good party. I'm getting older now. I can't, uh, I can't do it like I used to.

If I can get the three a.m. Two, two, three a.m. I'm like, that's a real, real good knit. That's rare for me. Yeah. I'm, I've changed completely. I mean, before we had kids, we're just talking about like how I would go to bed regularly, like on a Tuesday night at 2 30 in the morning and

wake up at 10 to 11 and be like, what am I going to do today? Yeah. And now we are up at six 30 to seven every morning. And by noon, I've done 10 things like, you know, I mean, if I don't work out and I did meetings and email, it's just a complete change. And I feel like my alcohol tolerance is. I mean, I'm like a child. Yeah.

Like I have a couple of drinks and I feel it for three days. I don't, that's, I don't drink that much anymore. Yeah. That's a little bit, a little modello here and there and your joints, legs, everything's fine. You're good. I am very cognizant of, I'm really into health and biohacking and like, so I intermittent fast.

You do. Yeah. And I, you know, the magnesium supplementation, MCT oil, I do sauna, cold showers. Oh, wow. You're really meditate all that stuff. Wow. To get your, get your, you know, mind, body, spirit going.

Do you prepare, I imagine without knowing that you would have a real preparation for like leading up to Sundays going on the air. Yeah. Like you take care, like a whole routine. Got a routine. What time I'm going to go to bed? What time are you going to wake up? How early are you there on a Sunday?

Imagine it's 5 a.m. Wow. On, on, well, it's a wake up time. I get awake. Oh, okay. That's the wake up time. You get around 445, 5 a.m. And we're at, we're on set at 545.

No shit. Yeah. Getting ready. So this is something I wanted to ask you. So I imagine that a lot of people that when you're playing and that, you know, it's game we were playing chiefs were playing the Falcons. And then they got, fuck, like, I gotta, I gotta take care of Gonzales this week.

This is going to suck, right? But who did you ever say like, oh, this is going to be some work this week. I don't know if I've ever had that attitude. I was like, no, or, you know, just like I got a break. I really, oh, I want to bring it. Usually it's, um, honestly, I don't even care about the other play. I get, I should answer this question. So like Rodney Harrison.

Okay. He's a thumper back in the day. He probably wouldn't even play that much now because the way his style of play, he couldn't do that nowadays of that physicality. Really? Take your head off. Oh, right. Come over and over the middle.

You're like, I'm gonna lay you out. I gotta, I gotta be careful. I think it was Cam Chancellor, the strong safety. No shit. He's six and I got, we had some battles and I got him a couple of bunch of times and he got me a couple of times, but he was six, three, two hundred and thirty pounds playing strong safety. Yeah.

The safety position really grew over the lap. I mean, like all positions, but I've met two or I'm like, you play safety dude, like they're so tall, so long and, and he was laying people out. Oh, putting, putting them out. Yeah. Well, yeah. And that was just right when the rules were changing. So you can still play that style of play.

It doesn't that big knock your head off guy over the secondary. It's just, it's not there anymore. And what about like, you can't, you can't do it. It's against the rules because obviously you get, you know, you're running routes, but you're blocking on like, was, is there horrible memories of blocking anyone? Well, yeah. I mean, it's a mismatch for us.

Yeah. Um, it's probably the biggest mismatch of football. It is. It's the biggest mismatch in football. We have it both ways. It's tight ends. Right. Uh, go and block in a defensive end.

We're 250 pounds on average or whatever it is. Yeah. And though, and I was a little bit less than that and those guys are around 290 pounds. Right. And so it's not fair. They're, you know, they're benching 500 pounds. We bench 350 or whatever.

It's just, they're just big, bigger physically. These are like rhinos. So that sucked blocking those guys. Yeah. Um, and you have to be crafty because I can't outpower you. Yeah. Like Khalil Mack. Yeah.

Like, I mean, he's a kind of a, I guess hybrid outside. Yeah. Brusher linebacker type. I would rather block Khalil Mack though, because he's a little bit smaller than the big traditional Reggie White defensive in that, that, yeah, or Michael Strayhan when he played defensive in, I'd be ready when I'm like, damn, his big old ass, like he's 290 pounds.

Like, yeah, it's just, I'd rather go against the guy who's 260 like Khalil Mack. Sure. Cause at least I can, I'm quick. I'm really quick. So I can just get in front of him. Yeah. He'll outpower him, but I just got to hold on for three seconds.

Get them back by. Sure. So that was, those, that was always, but then on the opposite, I have the biggest mismatch, mismatch in the passing game. Right. Cause at least for back then, now these linebackers are really getting bigger, faster, stronger, but I'm going against a linebacker that I know I'm faster than.

Sure. And I'm going against a strong safety or a corner who's way smaller than me. So I'm going to, I outweigh you by 30 pounds. So they're either going to throw it up or you're going to throw it out, even if you guard me. I was guarded so many times, I just jump over you and catch it. Yeah.

And you have the basketball hops too. Like you're not, yeah, it sucks, man. I mean, yeah, I feel like what, like, I mean, I watched, I used to watch those like Reggie White highlights of the hump move, you know, and like. Like no tape, no gloves. Just like, oh, I just woke up and washed my hands. Here we go.

And just throwing people throwing. The thing about these highlights, like the clips now that I always remind myself of is that when you see somebody just like getting bodied or burnt, you know, it's like, yeah, but the guy that's getting his ass kicked in that play is a badass. Like, you know what I mean? Like, like we're watching the, uh, that play. I watched it so many times where DK Metcalf caught Buddha Baker.

And I was like, yeah, but you know, Buddha runs like a fucking four, three, 40 or something, right? Like that was lightning fast. This shit is unbelievable to me, man. Yeah. Like, and he's starting at least 10, 10 yards back, you know, from him. That's a track right there.

And I got in front of him and he had to restart. He had to restart. I mean, that was incredible. When I saw that, I was on my couch. I was jumping up and down. Yeah. You know, like all athletes out there got it. Like this, this made us jump out of our seat.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. This is just like Patrick Mahome's donor behind the back shoulder. Yes. Like that was equivalent to that. It's something that'll be on his highlight when he's. Oh, yeah.

I mean, I remember seeing that dude's, I kind of like peaked into the combine last year. I wasn't like following intensely, but they're like, I remember seeing a time and they're like, you know, this dude weighs like 235 and I was like, what? Cause he ran a really crazy 40. Yeah. Um, but, but to me, I felt like what would be embarrassing

was what was that Khalil Mack thing. Cause I identified with the offensive lineman, the one on this play where, um, like after the play, there's Mack and then the guys, and then he just throws him. I was like, I'm 78. I'm 78 and I'm like going back. I'm like, did everybody see that? Like asking myself.

God, is that going to be on sports center? Uh, no, poor guy. That guy's a rookie too. Yeah. He's a rookie. And then he's like, oh, I'm still pushing. And he's like, oh, I'll just. I'll just judo, judo swing you.

Oh my God. He's three, like 330 and you're getting like, you're like, he has no memories of that ever happening besides that play. Oh, I love it. And that's when you like the average guy who sees the football and they're like, oh, I could have done that or whatever. It's like, you only knew. Yeah.

Oh, big and explosive. Someone like cool little Mac or Aaron Donald. Oh my God, man. It's, it's ridiculous. You know, I do this podcast with, with Bert Kreischer and, um, we're, we have like challenges, like we challenge each other to things, right? We put 10 as we're going to play one on one.

He goes, do you think we could like, um, block double team Aaron Donald? Like as a thing. And I was like, that happens in the NFL and he wins. What are you talking about? He's like, so should we do it? I go, I'll tell you what, I would love to watch you do it. And then I'll ride in the back of the hospital, the ambulance

with you. Yeah. Like, no, we can't do that dude. We'll die. They had a Joe pro, pro versus Joe. Yeah. I think straight, straight hand hosted it. Yeah.

Yeah. That was, I saw, I remember watching, um, what was his name? Slash Cordell Stewart. Uh-huh. I remember that specifically that the regular dude was like a regular, like just goofy guy who was like, okay, Cordell, see what you got.

And like the other pros on that episode, like there was a baseball player and a basketball player and they were like, dude, you have no idea. And Cordell Stewart laid down, like it was a goal line. It was like Oklahoma drill. Uh-huh. It was like, it put his shoulder down and just trucked this. Trucked him.

I mean, oh, brutal. Kevin Green was on there too. And I think, I remember him just lighting something up. Yeah. Those guys all had to sign waivers. Of course. Like if you die, it's on you. And by the way, you might like, like, dude,

there's, I mean, nothing better than what, I mean, I don't want to see like it happened to some guy who didn't ask for it, but some guy who's like, you know what, Tony, you ain't shit. And I'm going to show you right now. Like, okay, let's do it. Let's line up and see how it goes. Yeah. Like, yeah, the separation of athleticism is quite different.

Yeah. Yeah. That's what I love. Uh, so I played pick up basketball a lot. Yeah. I did that all throughout my career. That was my off-season training. Really?

Every, I'd play in the pro leagues. I played, I played for the Miami Heat. We played for their summer league team, tried out Pat Riley. Yeah. That was my coach. Yeah. And, and, and Spolstra, Eric Spolstra. Yeah.

Um, but anyways, so, so, but I'm not a pro. Right. I'm good. I'm right on that tier. Like I maybe could have went pro, but I would have never like been a starter. Right. But I maybe could have made a roster or whatever.

And I'd go play pick up basketball with all these guys that think they're really good. Right. Like in, in the neighborhood, in the neighborhood, really good. Like they're good. But they, you know, they played probably high school basketball, whatever. And, and I'm just dominating them.

And these guys like really think they have a shot. Yes. To go play pro, like pro. I can do it. Yeah. Cause you crossed up your friend, you know, your buddy works at the, you know, the department store. Yeah.

Like it's not the, it's not the same thing. Like people to understand the levels. Yeah. Of competition as you move up to the professional ranks. Oh my God. It's night and day. It's night and day. I've told this story before, but like I remember being in high

school, you know, being a two way starter and like having division one fantasies, right? Like the natural thing, like I want to play, like watch the games or play and I go with a friend of mine who was recruit highly recruited and played at D one level. I went with him to Miami game. It was just back in the OB orange bowl and we're standing on the sidelines and we're just standing there and they're playing

Syracuse and those guys came out of the tunnel and I'm looking at like my position players and I'm I level with their numbers. Like I'm like, I'm seeing here and I was like, I'm definitely not going to play division one. Oh, these guys are killing me. It's just genetics. It's not. Yeah.

I mean, but it was like, it was like, that's all I needed. And I was like, all right, that's clear. Like these guys are monsters, man. Yeah. Yeah. All dudes were like your height or bigger and they were like three 15. Yeah.

I was like, yeah, this is not athletic to athlete. Yeah. Quick dudes. Dude, it was it was a whole other thing. It was a whole other thing. Did you talk shit? Were you a trash talker at all? No, no, no.

I found when I did that that would take me out of my game. Interesting. But I enjoyed it when somebody else would talk to me. You did? Oh, yeah. Yeah. It would fuel you or what? Oh, yeah.

Like it gave me like that's all I needed. Like I like I'd want you to what kind of what kind of trash would get talked to you? Which better like you ain't shit. Yeah. Oh, nothing. Yeah. You know, that's the normal.

You ain't shit. That's probably the big you're you're you're a bitch. You ain't making the Pro Bowl today. Tony like that. Yeah. And and I was just like, okay, okay. And my biggest comeback was always especially when it because when you go to the Pro Bowl, you're playing against

the best of the best. Yeah. And it's so like someone like Cam champ, me and him aren't going to talk shit to each other. Right. Normally it's not going to happen because we have that mutual respect for each other. Yeah.

It's always the shit talking always comes from the guy that doesn't even like, I don't even know who you are. Right. And I would tell him that on the field. Yes. That I love. That's the way I would talk shit. That's one of my favorite ones.

Yeah. It's like, yeah, there's that great clip of what his name air was the running back for the Texans. He's a few years back in foster area foster where it's like there's a clip that rotate that was like kind of viral where someone was like, yeah, yeah, man. That's what I'm talking about. He was like, he was turned around.

What's your name again? Turn around. I don't know who you are, man. Yeah. But yeah, it was all about like, you know my name. I don't know your name. Yeah. So I love that shit.

I always said that I would pay if the NFL was like, hey, there's a package where you can pay a thousand dollars and this season you can have the field mic pumped into the broadcast. I'd be like, how's 2000 sound? Yeah. Because that's what I want to hear. Yeah. I would love to hear that.

It bumps me out when they when it's all bleeped and you I'm like, oh, no, I want to hear the real shit talking. Oh, you would love it. Yeah. I want I want the locker room. Like this Turkish, uh, uh, was it soccer coach? Have you seen like, uh, when you get, when you leave that there's less rules, you know, like this is the kind of stuff

I want to see on an NFL broadcast. All right. Half time. Let's go. What's going on, coach? What the? Shut up. Yeah.

That can't be real. That's real. There's no way that's real. That's a tur, that's a Turkish soccer coach who was like, you guys are fucking embarrassing. Oh my God. Yeah. It's awesome, right?

I wish you ever seen year of the bull. No, you've never seen that documentary. No, dude, you got to watch year of the bull year. The bull follows Miami Northwestern high schools football team for a season and it's it. This is in the early 2000s. Miami Northwestern has produced, I mean, think about this. This is when the movie came out, which is at least 10 years

ago, uh, something like 20 NFL players. I mean, like for one high school and then like countless, you know, D1 players and it's like it's in Liberty City, which is a rough part of Miami and the coaches aren't the most aggressive, like, I mean, that shit right there times 10 slapping people. I've never seen anything like that. Oh,

that's amazing to the opening scene. What's wrong with that guy? The opening scene to year of the bull is it's half time. And I think at the state championship game and they're in the locker room and this dude, they have helmets on, but is he has a glove on and he's just like smashed like smash and dude's heads in. And he just says, why is the defense not working?

That's it. Like 50 times. Why does this not work? Like to every dude's head. Everyone's like, fuck, man. Like they're not like, hey, let's let's switch to fucking man coverage. Oh, just why is this not working?

I mean, it's wild, dude. Oh, oh, man. Are you seeing coach Snoop? Coach Snoop. He's like, I think when they kicked the graph to plane. I don't know if I saw that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I kicked him up because he was talking to the kids.

Shit. And they kicked him out. He's like, he's passionate, man. You know, like, dude, you got kicked off the fight. Yeah. Well, a little half dead. I think that was his name. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. Talking that you would think that doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, dude. It's a touch. I'm out of touch. All right.

Now we're going to play rate those tits. We're going to show you like 10. I'm just I'm just where's my manager. You got to run though, right? You said you got to run. Yeah. We said when we started. I got.

Yeah, I gotta go. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. First of all, I really appreciate you coming by. Thank you very much for this. Um, it's it's fun.

You're a fun. It's a fun to talk to you, man. I wish I could talk to you for a long time. Congratulations on all your success. Amazing. Obviously playing career and broadcasting excited to see what you do next. So thanks for coming by.

Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. So that was it. Uh, I had a really good time talking to Tony. Let me know if you guys enjoyed this, you know, leave a comment. Um, tell me if you maybe people you want to see more of a one on one conversation with, um, hope we can do it a lot more. And, uh, yeah, we'll see you soon.

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