Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura - Tony Hinchcliffe-161-Your Mom's House with Christina Pazsitzky and Tom Segura

Episode Date: October 17, 2016

Is it possible to prepare oneself for greatness? Try. This episode would be nominated for an Emmy if it were television. Is there a podcast equivalent? That may sound cocky, but we're mobsters over here! OHHHH! Tony Hinchcliffe gives us a gift. His mother, Joy/Gina joins us and answers questions about the life of a bookie. Sweet, petite and full of fire, Joy "It's Tuesday" the Bookie is not to be messed with. It's informative, hilarious and terrifying all at once. We also discuss Shakey Jeans, the Smith clan, and more, but it's all about Joy and you better be ready to pay up. 

Yeah, so... Oh, plug whatever you have to plug. Do you need the phone numbers? Your phone numbers? To my dad and my mom? Yes, in a moment, yes. OK. Yeah, but right now, let's not announce...

We're on the show right now. Oh. And if we give out their phone numbers, we're going to get a lot of phone numbers. Right, we don't want that. Oh my God. Let's not do that. Definitely can't have that happen.

You said that like Maria. Definitely not. Um... So it's Friday. It's Friday, and guess where I'm at? Syracuse? Yeah, I'm at the Syracuse Funny Bone October 9th through 12th. It's Friday night.

It's going to be huge shows tonight, mommy, because you should definitely come out. Yeah. And then October 16th through 19th, the Des Moines Funny Bone in Des Moines, Iowa. That's how you say it. And then October 25th through 27th, the Madhouse Comedy Club in San Diego, California.

That might come with you. Really? The dog? That would be fine. What are you offering? What am I offering? Yeah. I got like 30 buffalo wings, all of different flavors,

but you have to eat every one of them at midnight. Why don't we do an eating contest for the show? Uh-huh. You know what I want to try it with? Yeah. Those donut holes. You know the... Oh, I love those, yeah.

They're like, you know what I'm talking about? The little donut balls. Little donut balls. Yeah. I want to see if I can eat 100. Little chocolate donuts. 100? I mean, whatever.

Just pick a lower number. What's a high number that's not... I mean, a high number is 62. I like that it's a random number, too. That's a real target. I would say don't... I'm eyeballing you up and down right now, and I say the amount of donut holes that you can get is 61,

and I think 62 would be the hard one, where you're like, I don't know. Just one more little ball. I don't think you could... It's so funny. Let us know if you want to see the donut hole contest. I would love it. But between you and who?

Well, no, it's just like, can he do it? So, can he do it? Oh, it's just you versus your own psyche. Yes. You versus your own fatness. Now, is Tony supposed to have a buffer thing on that mic, or is it supposed to be naked like that? Does it matter?

It probably would sound better like that. I mean, I'm glad you... Yeah, for the buffer. Yeah, you need some spit cover on that. Is that what this is? Yeah, it's a wind guard. Yeah, but that's up to you. I mean, I just noticed that he doesn't have it.

Should I grab it off this one? Sure, and I'll turn your mic off, and then you try to make that happen. Would you mind? Do you know how? For sure we do. Maybe we should just use this one. Is that possible, or is that weird?

Yeah, no, it's possible, but hold on. Blue band wall. Oh, you got to take it. I'm going to mute you for a second. Let's pause for a second. Should we pause? No, just keep telling him. You got to pull that thing out of there.

Like push, push it. There you go, buddy. Oh, soul. Ah. I muted you. You're not here, because when you put it on, it'll make noise. It's got a rust all over it. Yeah, so...

We're going to cover in that big black dick. Tony, put the cover on the dick. Oh, that's good. Why don't I do other stuff while you guys are doing that? Did we just say we're up? We didn't say we're going to be. Well, where are you going to be? Yes.

That's a good point. All right. Tony, where are you going to be? November 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, I'm in the Irvine Improv with the powerful Joe Rogan. Whoa. And then next weekend, I'm doing it's not 100% confirmed, but I'm in about 95%

for something called the Dark Comedy Tour in Toronto, Canada with Gilbert Gottfried and Brody Stevens and a couple other amazing comedians. Great city, man. Some evil minds like mine, all letting it rip in Canada. 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th, I do believe. But check that out. Google Dark Comedy Tour Toronto, Ontario.

You're going to love. Oh, you've been to Toronto, haven't you? Yeah, so it's so much fun. And other than that, Kill Tony, my podcast, every Monday night live at the comedy store at 8 o'clock, it's a free show. Get to see 10 to 15 rising young stand-up comedians and me and two guests trying to punch up their material,

talk with them, talk about starting comedy, and we just really get to the root of what is stand-up and how do you start. And it's really interesting, and it's taking off. Like tonight, I'm in the LA Pod Festa. My guests are Mark Marin and Doug Benson. Whoa. Yeah.

So that is taking off for real. Yeah, it's happening. It's very exciting, man. Very exciting. Well, one day we're going to get our asses to the comedy store on a Monday. Well, you know, I've been trying to get you guys. I can't wait.

We text every week, and it's like, no, we're traveling. No, I'm sorry. And I love it, though. Let's just keep, just I hope I don't ever annoy you too much by asking every week. Never. I love you. Right.

No, not at all. Congratulations on that. Thank you. Huge. You guys are going to kill on it. I'm excited to do it. We see, I will be November, is it first and second? Is that a Friday and Saturday?

Yes. I will be at Flappers in Burbank. I'm running my hour the week before I shoot it. So if you're here in the general Los Angeles area, you don't want to go to fucking Irvine and see Rogan and Tony. Come see me. Do an hour in a small venue.

I'm not even doing the big room. I'm doing the tiny room there. So it should be fun. I got tickets up on my site. The tiny room is called the You Who Room. Is that what it's called? Yeah. And actually, to see Tom Segura in the You Who Room

is probably very special and unprecedented. If you're a huge fan of my husband, which I hope you are, that is the room to see him in. Because you can practically reach out and touch his balls. Yeah. And he likes that. So go ahead and grab him and pull super hard when you see Tom. The room is as intimate as this background music right now.

Super intimate, right? Yeah. So come see me there. And then I'll have the links up for where you can get tickets to the special November 9th in Minneapolis. So you guys know what to do. And then after that, the next week, I'm going to Winnipeg to freeze my little nuts off

in Winnipeg, Canada. So that's that. You know where to see us. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

Tony, it's so good to have you back here. Yeah, I'm back. It feels good. This is long-awaited, demanded by the fans. You have one of the most popular episodes of all time. You know how the show works. So we're going to open the show. You ready to start the show?

Let's do it. Yeah. This is Frankie McDowell. My own TV station live in City of Nova Scotia. Major Storm is heading for South Dakota on Friday, October the 4th, 2 down to the 13th. It's going to bring it up to 30 plus millimeters of rain. The rain will fall sideways.

The winds are going to be very strong in South Dakota. It's going to be high winds and heavy rain in South Dakota. It's going to bring colder temperatures as well. We've got to open it. This shit is big time. Who is Randy? Don't bring anyone loving to this. Don't burn in the fucking sand.

Welcome. Welcome to your mom's house with Tom Segura, Tom Setsuo, and Christina Pajitzi. Welcome to your mom's house. You like that drum in it, Tony? You got style. You got fitter. I don't like that intro song.

Good. Feel it, girl. Tom Segura. And Christina Pajitzi. You have a girl say that. I love that. I get that. I see why that would work.

So no shit. Your episode is extremely popular. I really let the beans spill on that one. I really said a lot. You know, I remember, you know, I talked about, you know, my parents' side business when I was growing up. Side business. I don't know.

I'm still like trying to like make it. No, that wasn't their main thing. You FBI lesson is out there. But what's fun is that, you know, they heard it. Did your dad talk to you about it? Yes. He heard it too? What?

See, I thought it was just mom. Oh, no. I think dad, I don't think dad listened to the whole thing. There's no way he could. I'm sure he was like just like scanning. There's no way he could listen to the whole thing. Here's Tony's dad. You could fucking try me, facile.

Ah, yes. I remember what my mom said. Yeah, he couldn't tolerate the whole conversation for sure. There's no way. I mean, he just has, he has the sense of humor of a, I don't know what of a, of a hair clip. Let's say, I don't know. It's the first thing I saw.

Sure. Which are very funny, by the way. Hair clips. Actually, yeah. The hair clip might have a better sense of humor than my father. But, you know, when my mom heard it for the first time, she goes, I get a phone call from her and I just hear laughter on the other end and I pick up, she's dying of laughter and she goes, what was it?

You better lock your doors, kiddo. It was the first thing I go, wait, wait, wait, what do you mean? She goes, you said a lot. I go, do you really think I need to lock my doors? She goes, no, but I mean, wow. You know, but there was a moment when she's laughing and she goes, you better lock your doors, kiddo. Which I'm like, oh my God, wait, I hope to God she's kidding.

You know, there's that moment where it's like four seconds between me getting an answer to the question. Are you being serious? But that four seconds felt like an eternity where I'm like, wait a second. Maybe, just maybe there's people out there that are still protecting all that stuff and like, maybe you can't talk about it. Maybe I fucked up, but. That always exists with that world, with any actual, you know,

criminal, illicit empire, that world, if you say something, it's always how long after it happened, did you say it? Yeah, exactly. And luckily, you know, the only reason I can talk about it, obviously, is because they're definitely both out, you know, like completely out. Like I said, then, you know, in the late, mid to the late 90s, they really eliminated the Youngstown Mafia. Yeah, it's like written about everywhere.

You can easily look it up on Wikipedia or whatever. But, you know, it was a huge empire there and they really trimmed it down. They got rid of it and everybody had to find a different, excuse me, a different way to make money. Now your pop just says a restaurant. Right. Yeah, a restaurant. Joe's, Joey's, Joey's, Joey's, yeah, but no apostrophe. Yes. Right. Which is Joey's, you know, what's interesting?

It's so funny you ask that it actually has some kind of accent mark after the E. So it's actually, it looks like it just says Joe restaurant. OK, but with the accent, it makes it Joey, because that makes the E stress. That's how Italian. That is even crazy, right? That detail, right? You ask, you ask about the apostrophe. I'm like, well, here's one for you.

It's got an over the letter apostrophe that accentuates the E. Jesus Christ, you fucking Jew, motherfucker. You've been warned. Yeah, that's from you've been warned. Mickey, when you asked me if you could come out here, what did I tell you? I mean, you asked me and I knew you're going to come out no matter what I said. But what did I tell you? Do you remember what I told you?

Back, back, back, back. Just a minute, one minute. I asked you, when the fuck did I ever ask you if I could come out here? Get this through your head, you. Get this through your head, you Jew, motherfucker, you. That's what happens when you order appetizers at Joe's. You complain about it not being warm. Get this through your head.

Does your father actually work at the restaurant? He works his ass off, man. It's incredible. I mean, this guy just, he loves it. I mean, he just can't get enough. Oh, it's so tough. And that's the key component for restaurants. I think is you have to love it.

Yeah, you don't love the restaurant business and you're in it. You're fucked. Right. It's over. I mean, he doesn't admit that he loves it. You know, we like, oh, it's, you know, it's not going so well. It's also tough because he has a great killer Italian restaurant in the mentally young town, which is like this notoriously dilapidated city. A new report just came out.

It's the seventh every year. It's always on the list, but this year it's actually gotten better. It dropped all the way to the seventh worst city to live in in the country. Normally it's in the top five. So something must have happened. They must have built a new hospital. That's something you can hang your head on if you're from Youngstown. Yeah, like, guys, not even in the top five worst places anymore.

Yeah. What do you think is the worst? Do you remember what number one is? It's got to be Detroit or Flint got to be. Yeah, it's definitely up there in Michigan. Sure, no doubt about it. Sure, Flint. Detroit just got a $300 million loan from the government

just to get basic shit up 40 percent of the light posts don't work. Oh, boy. The average response time from 9-1-1 is 58 minutes. Oh, my life. So it's like that city. So handicapped. They should call it Larry Flint, Michigan. Just a fucking gift.

There's a little taste of why I'm in the writer's guilt. That's right. Dude, how much fucking fun. We didn't even go back to this. We got to talk about this clip, but something is up in Columbus where we did that show there. I mean, that turnout was amazing. It was unbelievable, man.

Real eyeopening experience. Right. I felt like people were, you know, because it was really one of my first times doing a death squad show with my podcast up and running. And I was, I almost felt like I was on a prank show. All the people coming up to me being like, Hey, man, kill Tony, the iron patriot, the this and that, the girls at the end. How did you think of that?

How did you they're asking these questions? And I'm the biggest fan. I'm just like, I'm sure you guys are of this. Like, I'm sure you could talk about your podcast with people easily because it's what you love. Right. And so when they were bringing that up to me, I just felt like I could stay there for days straight.

Just talking about and answering their questions. It was so exciting and such an eyeopening experience. The death squad nation is powerful. Oh, my God, it's very powerful. But I think there's particularly something up in Ohio that in that particular area there in Columbus, I mean, they come out hard. Yeah. Well, there and also look out for it when you go to Canada.

Oh, Canada. We've we've been at Toronto is silly out of control. Yes. So funny. I wonder why like certain pockets just have embraced this. I think I'm starting to try to notice it there. There seems to be pockets of areas where podcast listening is just sky high and other places where it's a little bit lower.

I think it has something to do with temperature. People like communicating because Phoenix, I mean, there's not a lot there. Texas, I noticed when I headlined in Corpus Christi, there was almost nobody. And Phoenix was low numbers or big numbers? Well, it was it was medium numbers, but it wasn't like it wasn't like, you know, you get to a colder area. Meanwhile, it seems to sort of stop if you go too far to the East Coast, but a little bit off the coast like PA, Ohio, Indiana, Chicago, you know,

sure, around the center of the country and everywhere above it. And even in Australia and England, I mean, I look at the the logistics on my inner on my website sometimes, and I'm like, how are 30% of the hits coming from Australia's bananas? Right. Why? And wait until you start getting emails from these rant. I'm living Latvia and I'm a huge fan.

I got one from South Korea. Right. Right. Like, yeah, unbelievable. It's awesome. Yeah. But Ohio, you know, the other thing is though about like Columbus, let's say, in Toronto.

I think a big part of it is nurturing that market from like when we all do that. In other words, we've all been to Columbus a few times. Yeah. So we're feeding that market that like gave us love. We're like, are we're going to keep going back there? Like we're already planning on Columbus in like March. Right. And we're going to do the podcast there.

Right. But like you have to like keep going to these places and we got to get everybody to do it. And that's how that market grows and stays awesome. Totally. We've done it in Toronto, we've done it in Columbus, you know, there's certain places where like it just makes sense. You should go, Brian, Joe obviously goes, Ari Diaz, like get everybody to go.

And then it's like, oh, this is a place where people are here and they're responding because we keep going. Yeah. All of us. So exciting. Yeah. It really is amazing. Yeah.

Thank God. People love it. What did you think of Frankie's weather warning? He's going to testify. That's interesting. He's going to turn into a major storm in South Dakota. It's going to bring a lot of rain, a lot of wind because of the warm and humid air he's going to meet with the cold air.

It's like he's buffering for information at times. Like down, he's trying to download the next part of what he's going to say. He's been doing these for years. Yeah. He lives in South Dakota and he gives the weather. No, he lives in Nova Scotia, I think. Oh, I'm pretty sure. What accent is Nova Scotia?

This is Frankie McDowell, my old TV station, live in Sydney, Nova Scotia. A powerful storm is heading for Vancouver, British Columbia on Saturday, September 28th, 2013. It's going to be a period of real heavy rain and a strong winds along the coast of British Columbia. It's going to hit Vancouver, British Columbia. I really feel like if this guy was doing the weather on television, I'd be more into it.

I would watch every weather, every update. Actually, I would take him over Michael J. Fox's new sitcom, Shaky Jeans. Yeah, yeah, show. Put this guy on. Yeah, that that that that whole thing is creeping me out. The new, how do you feel about this is a hot topic for the show. Really? Every day has been a big topic because I haven't gotten to talk about it to anyone

on anything yet. Great. What's your feeling? Let me tell you something. First of all, the running these previews of it, they can't even get the guy. They can't even edit it down to make him look normal for like three seconds at a time. And these are in the previews, which are like teasers for like 22 seconds.

And he's just looking around just he cannot not move for one second. NBC, I mean, hey, if you're going to hire me for anything NBC, then I'm sorry. What I'm about to say that you guys are dropping the ball on this one. I mean, it's like unbelievable that they're buying this guy out, putting him out there. I mean, very rarely am I a guy that says, hey, it seems like they're really milking someone, you know, for all the work that Michael J. Fox should. They're pretending like he's healthy. They can't make him look normal for six seconds in a row.

I and the billboards are up everywhere. The other day I was walking on the street, there was an earthquake and I'm looking at the Michael J. Fox billboard. It looked like it was alive. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, of course, it's terrible. And it reminds us of the time. Remember when Gary Coleman was huge on different strokes?

I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, I don't know if he was ever huge. But he was on that show, Gary Coleman. And then they needed another little black guy. And who did they find? Emanuel Lewis who played Webster. So this is the same meant that we're dreading it. The what if shaky jeans show does take off now?

We got to watch every fucking guy with some weird illness. Right. How the fucking TV. Let me ask you something because that's your initial response to it. Let me throw this at you. Are you trying to say, though, that when you sit home and you want to watch a funny show, you don't want to see somebody with a severe illness

or some debilitating disease? I know this answer is going to surprise you. But you are correct. I don't want to watch somebody that's blatantly. I mean, all the medicine in the world that I know he can afford is not making it look normal at all. And maybe they're putting out weird things for the previews to make people watch.

Like I want to see if he can sit still for a second. I mean, because that's sort of like smart marketing to make them look weird in the previews and then whatever. And you think with today's technology, like they can make Avatar a three hour long movie, but they can't make Michael J. Fox sit still for 20 seconds. You know, I mean, he just looks terrible on these things. It's insane.

Terrible. Especially when you think about who he was in the 80s. I grew up adoring him as a child, loving him. It's very hard for me as a fan to be like, oh my God, like you can park and like, please, please go away. Just go quietly into the new ball tonight for the second year in a row. This is going to be a wonderful movie.

Usually he puts the ball on display after New Year's. This is the first year and he's giving it up forever, forever, not forever, but for a long time. Wow. Usually you put in a ball. That's the Clark that we have to see post-stroke. Right. Counting down.

Put this thing, put the good thing in the ball will drop. And you're like, what in the fuck are you doing? Because we can't live without his fucking talent of counting down from 10 to 1. He's the only person in show business that knows how to do it. This narcissistic piece of shit can't get out of the fucking spotlight. Let Ryan Seacrest take the reins, OK?

Yeah. Oh, that is so funny. He's the worst. Yeah. Is he still alive? No. Oh, thank God. No, but they still let him do the show.

They put the corpse in the chair and they just. Whatever Channel does that, I mean, they really dropped the ball on that one. You know what I'm saying? Here's Dick Clark with a countdown. Let's try it out. 20, 90, 80, 70, 60, 70, 60, 20, 20, 10, 11, 10, 11. Is the ball going backwards?

Wait a minute. He can't even count. He goes 12, 10, 11, 11, 11, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 11, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. He's doing it. He can't even count. Definitely didn't have a stroke of genius. You know what I'm saying?

I always say, no, I'm saying after a blatant joke. You know what I'm saying? I didn't even know that he fucked it up like that. Did you know that that happened when it happened? No, I didn't know. Because you know why? Nobody gives a shit about Dick Clark. Right.

Yeah. How long do you think this might be? You know what I'm saying? Lots of things going to be on the air. How long are they going to do this? Oh, there's going to be the nostalgia watch where everyone's like, ah, and then there's the group that goes like, this is good. It's good for all of us to have somebody like this starring in a show.

It's empowering. But actually, the problem isn't going to be him and Parkinson's. The problem's going to be that the show is a shit show. Right. That's why it's not going to be a shit show. If the show was amazing, like really actually a good show, you would be like, I can handle this because this show is really funny. It's just not going to be a good show.

I just think they should have like, if they're going to make a comedy with him, they should have just like given it a better name than the Michael. Like they should have called it like Parkinson's and Recreation or something. There you go. See, I think they should have called it Joey's Italian restaurant and have him doing Parmesan on everybody's pasta. Right. That's what he could do.

Cheese, cheese. You want cheese? Everybody loves cheese. And they're like, I'm good. And he's like, I think you need a little more. I just keep going until it runs out of the canister. He just breads chicken like a chicken bake. This is so much funnier than every episode of that show.

Right. Right. Shake and bake. That's so funny. Oh shit. Hey, Michael, I need you to put some more shake and bake on the chicken. I needed 10 chickens for a bank what we're doing. All right.

All right, Joey. All right, Joey. He's shaking it with a back shake. Here's a clip from the Michael J. Fox show. Look at that asshole. I don't even want to let my nuts out. Yeah. That's a funny show.

Yeah. It's a very funny show. Well, there you go. Shakey jeans. But this is better than Michael J. Fox. Especially in Greater Vancouver area because of the intense low pressure system. It's going to be in West of British Columbia. Wow.

This guy has a thousand of these men. Aw. He does. He just. That's what YouTube is for. Yeah. He didn't realize Nova Scotian Down syndrome of the same accent. Pretty interesting.

He's been doing these. I feel like for years. 100 plus videos of this shit. In South Dakota. It's going to rain. Here's a Wisconsin one. Hey, this is. This is Frankie McDowell.

My own TV station live in Sydney, Nova Scotia. Wisconsin is getting a severe thunderstorm. It's on two stage July 9th, 2013. I can watch that guy all day. That's amazing. Yeah. Give this guy a spot on television. Sure.

Who watches the water anyway? At least he's giving us important information. And he's passionate. He loves weather. Can't buy this. It's a wild room to register all the weather information. Appleton, Wisconsin. Now, is he reading it?

Is that why? I don't know. You can't tell. He's remembering off the top of his head. It seems like he could be kind of a savant and just has all the info. Right. I feel like he memorizes it and then he goes and he's like, it's all there. I don't think he's reading.

Okay. I think I'm not sure. It's a real skill. Yeah. It is a skill. It's definitely a skill. Definitely. The terrific recently has been the Will and Jada Pinkett Smith family.

Oh, my life. Get your life. Well, I don't know what your thing is with it, but can I tell you my thing that I noticed a few weeks ago and I blew people's minds with this. What is the daughter's name again? Willow. Willow?

Okay. Willow looks exactly like her dad. And I mean, it's scary. This poor girl looks exactly like Will Smith and there's nothing she can do to hide it because it just looks like Will Smith in a wig or Will Smith in earrings. I've never seen any daughter look more like her. I think you're right. It's like a replica, a tiny little.

You want to have a good laugh. Just Google image Willow Smith and zoom in and look at that face because it's Will Smith. Oh, it's definitely Will Smith and they named her Willow. So even her name is like so close to Will. Oh my God. I didn't realize that. Yeah. Now, Tony, you just blew my mind because we didn't think they could get any more narcissistic.

And then Willow is this. Wow. Yeah. Yep. It's in the name. Wow. I mean, is that the fucking shittiest thing you could? Wow.

Yeah. What a piece. I can't even handle it. We'll see. You guys are anti them too. I think everybody is. Yeah, I know. It's just every time something comes up, it's just more and more outrageous.

Right. We didn't even know until one of our listeners sent us her, she has a band. I always knew that obviously Will Smith was a musician. Did you know that, Tony? Did Jada had a band? No. You're not a Wicked Wisdom guy? A what?

Wicked Wisdom? No. What is that? Does that sound like a shitty name for a band in Moscow? That's the name of the band? That's her band. Wait, that's Will Smith's wife, right? Yeah.

The former actress, Jada Pinkett. Yes. Correct. There's now Jada Pinkett Smith. Right. Yes. Oh, man. She's in a band.

What makes people think that they can just go and do a different thing? Thank you. Well, if you have skills. Oh, you're kidding. No. No. This isn't real. Oh, my God.

There we go. Wow. It really gives me anxiety. Yeah. I think I just have diarrhea. Oh, my gosh. And she was on Letterman with that. See, that's the other thing that drives me crazy.

What do you mean? People can use their fame from one thing and then go start another art form and just be like, hey, I'm performing on Letterman, my band. It's like, wait, aren't you an actress? Wasn't that your thing? It's like, no, they can just use their fame for anything. You don't earn the spot. Right.

No, it's too. They could have put Pony Kinchcliffe on to and stand up. Right. But no. Right. And made a dream come true. Instead, they're wicked. I mean, that's like a joke.

When did that happen? I can't believe this isn't. I can't believe I didn't know about this. Wicked wisdom. Oh, it's fucking terrible. Now, hold on one thing. So what you just said about like, how is it that they can start a fucking thing and then they take up spots for, so we put out a call because we mentioned Bruce Willis having a

band. Did you know that? No. Yeah. So Bruce Willis decided that he was like a blue singer and he had the Harmonica band and he even did the commercials in the 80s for Seagram's wine coolers with him and his shit band. When I put out a call to anybody, I go, if there's anybody listening, that is a legit

Bruce Willis fan. Well, we played like some of his, his big, one of his big hits, I mean, he plays the Harmonica. The thing is, when you're Bruce Willis, it just oozes out of you. Right. You can't really help yourself. But as we played this music, we put out the, here we go, give us a sample of it. Give you a taste, Tony.

Well, you know what? There's, there's a little auto-tune shit kind of going on there. Oh, okay. Yeah, I was going to say, I'm actually sort of surprised. That it's decent. It's decent, right? That's somebody else singing off-camera at the same time. Right here.

This guy's also singing. I can't, can we stop playing it? Sure. It's hurting my soul. I think Tony's a fan though. You know, I mean, after seeing Wicked or Willow, wait, what was the name of it again? It's called Wicked Wisdom. Wicked, Wicked.

Get it right. Yeah. After seeing Wicked Wisdom, I'm pretty sure I could listen to a semi-truck running over school children and it'll sound great. Well, I put out the call, if anybody out there likes this nonsense, Bruce Willis, a guy named Joe Whiteson, he wrote, I just want to throw my hat into the ring. This is my favorite. Return of Bruno is the shit and is legit one of my all-time favorite albums.

I still have a cassette copy in my possession and listen to it all the time on my boombox at work. I even wrote an article for VICE about what an overlooked classic it is and he puts the link to this VICE article about how Bruce Willis was like a fantastic singer. I love it. I love this guy's response. What's his name? Joe, Joe Somar.

Okay. You know that Joe Somar was just waiting his whole life for someone to be like, does somebody like Bruce Willis? Yeah. So that he could put his hand up. So he loves it so much. He wrote an article about it. About it and VICE.

Yeah. Also, I feel as though I should clarify, I labeled Jada's band as a metal band and Norman from Canada wrote in Very Upset Today and Norman said, how dare you calling this metal is like calling Green Day Punk. And when he said that, it resonated and I go, you know what, bro, you're right. I should not do this to the metal heads. So in Wikipedia, Wicked Wisdom is listed as a new metal band, N-U, New World Metal or Agro Metal.

N-U Metal? Yeah. That's like a Joey type of thing right there, trying to twist letters around. Yeah. Neo Metal or New Metal is a subgenre of heavy metal music. It is a fusion genre which combines sounds, influences, a characteristic of heavy metal and a subgenre such as groove metal, thrush metal, alternative metal. It's a fucking bunch of shit basically together called New Metal.

So there you go. Sorry, Norman. I know your pain, brother. I didn't want to shit on that genre. One thing we haven't done is talked about Jared Leto singing. Oh, what is this? Oh, no. Jared Leto.

People shouldn't be allowed to cover songs. He's really hiding himself on this hat, the sunglasses. That could just be Lady Gaga. Could be Gaga. Oh, please. Well, another actor shares his talent with us. I just can't stop creating. Right.

Yeah, that's the part that kills me, right? Yeah. You know, it's just like when I'm not doing everything else, I just gotta like let it out. I gotta just like vent. I gotta let it out. Right. I'm so great. Oh, God.

Bruce Willis, you know, here's the thing that I'll say. I'll give Bruce Willis some credit over Jada Pinkett and Jared Leto. Is that what you say? Leto, I think? Something. But I'll give Bruce Willis this at least, you know, he's not going on a letterman. It seems like he's playing on a stage and at least it's like blues and fun. Like he's trying to sing his heart out.

Right. Like it's blatantly trying to rip off some new doubt type of or no doubt type of like cross with metal. Like she's trying to rip something off. Absolutely. And he's blatantly just a douchebag, Jared Leto or whatever. And at least I'll give Bruce Willis this. I could tell just from seeing the videos from here that you were just playing that at least

Bruce Willis is having fun. It seems like it. Yeah. And it where the other two, it seems like they're just trying to be musicians. Right. I mean, I don't know if that makes much sense. No, I noticed that when, when you watch that Jada video, it's as though she's an actress playing the part.

Exactly. Of a metal singer. Exactly. I'm sorry. A new metal singer. Right. And then you. Cause she's so phony.

It's very contrived. Oh yeah. Like why are you, how much more attention do you need Jada? Right. Well, the thing is my theory on her singing this is a husband, oh, you're an actor and a superstar musician. I do music too. Oh, I didn't think of that.

That's my theory. Equalizer. Absolutely. Oh, we're all like artists in multiple genres. I do that too. Right. You're going on tour. Right.

So am I. Yeah. No one, not as many people be at my show. Maybe fucking four. Right. A writer, producer, director. I'm doing Letterman fucking singing next week. Poet.

Wow. I'm a slam poet too. In addition to Stan. I've always told Will, you can do whatever you want as long as you can look at yourself in the mirror and be okay. Oh my goodness. That was the response to you guys have an open marriage. She seems pretty calm about it.

Mibra. Like it's working out pretty well. That's about open marriage? Yeah. Wow. Self in the Mibra. Yeah. She seems furious.

As in maybe this morning they had a fucking conversation about it. Right. As long as you can look yourself in the mirror. It's the Mibra. The M-I-R-A. It seems like she's on like Wendy Williams or something on that. Yeah. Wendy.

See wicked wisdom on Wendy Williams. Now, should we give Joy a call? Can we do that? You want to? Let's do it. A pause for one second. We'll call her. All right.

We're calling Mrs. H. Hinchclaw. Hello. Hey. What's up? Hi, Mary. What's up? How are you?

I'm doing well. How are you? Great. Hi, Joy. Hi, Joy. Hi, Paul. Hi, Christina. Hi.

Thanks for being on our show. Yeah. Oh, wow. You want me to ditch the dirt? Absolutely. The feds are on their way. You might as well open up to us. Right.

That's funny. Joy, you're my hero. What's that? What are they coming for? Let's see what time of the year is it? Would I be doing football and the numbers? Yeah. I think it's football season.

I think it's football. Exactly. Heck, yeah. How well, can I ask you a question about the back in the day? You can ask me anything. Oh, this is the best. You are absolutely a joy. Joy.

Joy is a joy. Yes, I am. Did you understand sports like well before you got into the whole gambling making? No. No. No. I knew the derby and I did all that. I knew the derby in the Belmont Stakes.

I was very aware of that. I love that. But football, baseball, basketball, I learned from Tony playing basketball and baseball. But as far as pro ball, I didn't know any event and all that and how these things went. Oh, my God. Was that a part of your department, really? The sports link? I remember especially doing the horse races, you were in on that.

I don't remember much about that, but that seemed to be more other people that took care of that, but you were like the queen of the numbers, right? Well, yeah, for sure. Funny you should say that, Tony, because I just saw a paper that I was reading from your third grade teacher that if you didn't behave, you were not going to be able to go to the March 14th, what do you call that? Like when you go to the festival, not the festival. Field trip.

Field trip. Oh, my God. I went blank, but anyhow, and you weren't going to be allowed to go to that. And then the next day, the note said Tony will not, due to failing grades and conduct, Tony is not permitted to go. Right. And on the back of that paper says, because once in a while I would answer the phone. If Tony didn't answer it and say no Gina here, as you will know, Tom, do you remember

that? Yes, of course. Very well. Oh, my God. No Gina here. Well, for the people listening to this for the first time, what would happen is when Joy was answering the phone and working on these bets, she worked under the name Gina. Right.

So people would call to place bets, which is essentially how they're making money doing their business. And a young Tony would be like, there's no Gina here. Right. And just hang up the phone. There was a long time period of time in which I'm like, wow, there's a lot of fake, fake, I mean, a lot of accidental calls coming here for a Gina. Or telling her that in her, she just getting so upset like, oh, no.

Yeah. So wait, did you, did you, you said you answered the note on the back of this paper on the back of this paper from his third grade teacher? Actually she has a circle. I'm looking at it says he must know that the note is being sent home to you today because he is being a model student. Why can't he be like this every day? And then the next day is when I got the note that he was not allowed to go on the field

trip. But the funny thing is on that note that was lying next to the phone is Ohio or we go by Ohio NPA. I took both. So it was, oh, dash. That was Ohio. P dash. Oh, that's so funny.

Oh, dash. And there's the numbers. Oh, dash. Oh, three, nine. Somebody was playing that. Straight up. Oh, seven, eight, eight. So on this note from this, from the T, that's so funny.

Wow. So the note from the shot over here, the note from the teacher that that's talking about how bad of a kid I am. My mom reads it and starts taking notes on the numbers that she's running on the back side. Unbelievable. That is so. Exactly.

Joy, I want to ask you this. What about, okay, when you were a kid, when you're a little girl, did you know about the world of numbers? Was that something that you were familiar with? Oh, God, no, I'm just like. What? What'd you say? I was very naive.

Oh my goodness. Right. I looked off at 17. No, I knew nothing about this. I knew that there was something called runners and the system was ran a whole nother way back in the day. And I'd have to explain that to you. But now it went by the lottery number that came out.

Okay. Back in the day, when I heard about runners, but that's just in, you know, you knew what they did that you didn't know, you didn't actually understand it at my age. Oh my God. So how did it, how did you first get started doing this? Like what is the catalyst to get you to start doing this to begin with? Well, I think as stated in your first podcast, I was in a horrific and horrific automobile accident.

I wasn't able to go back to a very, very good job that I had. And his father presented this, uh, position, uh, new position. Yeah. Oh God. Uh huh. And he suggested that I might do this and I would make decent money at it, you know, and it would feed my children.

I always said that's what fed my children. Yeah. Um, because at that point I didn't have this, that's a really good job that could make good money. I worked in a baking at Schwaebel's Bakery. So that's where you were working before the accident? Correct. Correct.

And after the accident, I never returned. I was unable to. Right. Okay. So Tony's dad says, you know, you should give this a shot. And then are you scared going into this for the first time? Oh no. No.

No, no, no. Cause I'm kind of like Tony, tough little cookie. Yeah. You know, no, I wasn't afraid at all. Now, as the years went on when I saw people getting busted on the news and some of my friends that made that I did this, they'd be looking for me and saying, Hey, is Joey on the news? Did they get her today?

Wow. I did worry that the cops might come to the door and say you're busted. Right. Um, and so what? His father would have got me out. Nice. Oh, that's true. Yeah.

Yeah. And how did you meet? That's very true. How did you meet Tony's dad? Um, we met through friends. We met through friends and I met him at one point and then I met him like a year later. Things clicked and was he a charming guy? Together.

Pardon me. Was he charming? Very charming. Very, very Italian, Italian, not Italian, very Italian, very charming with the gold necklaces, you know, around and very sweet and very giving. He was a good man. He really was. When you saw that pinky ring where you're like, were you like, I got to make a baby with

this guy. Yeah. That's right. He had the pinky ring. Was it? Is that your type? It's up to you. Pardon me.

Sorry, Joy. So is that your type? Like, had you dated a lot of guys like Tony's dad before? Like, yeah. Did I? No. No. Absolutely not.

Really? No. Yeah. I'm I'm only five foot and his father was six foot one or two and anybody that I did date was, you know, five, eight, five, nine. So he was very tall and very, very powerful. I mean, he really is, you know, overpowering was the word of, you know, that's just what I was going to say.

I don't know if you guys, I mean, it's all basically a spitting image of Tony Soprano. I mean, through and through the, the wife beater, the big guy thing, the whole. Oh yeah. I mean, it's my type too, Joy. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's, I didn't catch that. It's my type too.

Christina's type. She loves Tony Soprano. She loves Tony Soprano. Big guys. I mean, Tony Soprano and big guys and big guys. She likes big. Oh God. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And then sharp shoes. I love nice shoes. And how did he call that? That was him. Yeah. So that was him.

You know, Tony started out in second grade, he was, this was engraved in him because in second grade, the teacher used to ask the kids every day, what's new for today. And I'm not sure Tom, how old you are. And if you'd remember this, but the teacher asked all the kids and it went around and, you know, they'd say, well, this is going on, the weather is this. I played these games and Tony said, Hey, what do you think about the jelly butter Foucault case? It's second grade.

Yeah. I actually do. I do remember that. So I don't know how he was that aware and what he was doing watching the news. Yeah. But that's what he said. And actually I got a call that night. Why is he listening to that kind of stuff?

You think God, he's going to get off again? All right. Exactly. That is hysterical. Interesting. I got calls every other day. I was on a first name basis with his teacher. I mean, his principal, he shared lunch with her every day in the office.

And his father didn't have any control over that because he didn't want to be out there in the open. Right. And, um, interesting story, Tony could tell you, stay in the pocket, and I want to share something with you. Yes. The last time, um, when you asked Tony, what was the money differential or something like that?

And when you play the Ohio lottery here in the state here or TA, you get 500 when you put up a dollar. Okay. When you play. If you win. So if you win, you pay a dollar for one three-digit number and if you win, you win 500, right? Correct. Okay.

When you're playing with me or whoever, the bookie like rough or two-time Tony or whoever these people were. Wow. Rough. One guy's name was rough. I would be afraid of that guy. Just rough. We had a big eyed peach.

Big what? Big itch. Big eyed peach. Big eyed. Big eyed peach. Oh, big eyed. Wow. You know, Pete with the big eyes.

Oh, you mean big eyed Pete. Yeah. Yeah. Big eyed Pete. Yeah. You can't make this up. No. No.

When you play with me, you put your dollar up and you won 600. Oh, shit. Plus, you got 15 or 20% off depending upon how good a customer you were to me. Wow. Yes, father's going to kill me. Jesus. We'll know if anything happens. Now, if you understand the point of the money because Tony didn't know those things.

Yes, of course. Now, I want to ask you this though. So that's why people would play with me instead of going to the drugstore. Do you ever have, was it a regular thing where you had somebody that owed you money and didn't want to pay up? Well, I sure. And then would you just call Tony's dad? No, I usually handled it.

How would you handle it? Your laugh is incredible. It's always at the time when we most want an answer. I know. Sorry, Tom. You're doing a great job. It's okay. You're doing a fantastic job.

I'm serious. How does a five-foot-one lady handle that when somebody doesn't pay up? What do you do? Well, a few little threats kind of work. Is it like, hey, you're going to fucking pay me asshole like that? No, not like that. No, actually, that usually wouldn't work. You want to use some cat.

Okay. And I had a woman that played with me for probably eight years and never knew. She knows. Let's see. I got to be a little careful here. She knew me, but she didn't know who the men above me were. And she was very worried about them because there was some interconnections. I can't go any deeper than that.

That's fine. Can I say, you know, I got to go to the men when she'd want to pay on Wednesday instead of Tuesday. I'm like Tuesday's the day. By the way, Tuesday is the day that they paid. Right. And she'd want to wait till Wednesday and I'd be like, no. So next thing I know, she'd come, I'd meet, we'd pick up the money, blah, blah.

She probably went to cash advance or whatever those places are. I didn't care where she went. Tuesday was the day. It was a done deal. You pay on Tuesday or somebody else hears about it. I was very kind and tactful and I never had a muscle in anybody. I'm little. What do you say?

Yeah. Pretend like it's me. Exactly. Gina, um, Gina, I'll, uh, yeah, I'll pay you on Wednesday. All right. I don't have it right now. Oh, wait, wait, can I just tell you something? That silence that you just gave for a moment would scare the hell out of me.

Right. Exactly. I don't know if that was on purpose or not. All right. I'm sorry to cut it off. All right. So how would you respond? Yeah.

All right. I'll do it again. All right. Gina, um, I'll pay you Wednesday. I don't think that'll work, Tom. Well, I mean, I just, I don't have it. I can, I can get it for you Wednesday though. Okay.

You need to get it. I would interrupt. I would interrupt. Go ahead. I need to get, I mean, all right. I mean, I'll, I'll see what I can do. I guess it is working. You know how we roll.

You know how we roll. Wow. You know, it has to be paid on Tuesday. There's no such thing as Wednesday. I suggest you find a friend that you borrow it from. You steal it from. You just need to pay me tomorrow on Tuesday. Oh my God.

This is the greatest thing. Did you know your mother did this? No, not like that. That was the best. I had a feeling it was going to get that good just then, but I didn't think it was going to get that good. Joy, you are. I wish I could hear you in the background.

I mean, oh my God. Look, I love, I love how she said. I love the line. Look, there is no such thing as Wednesday. Yeah. You're fucking Sammy the bull Gravano. Like you just scared the shit out of me. Tom's going to be sending you that check before Wednesday.

That shit is overnight. I don't care if it's an extra hundred. You're getting it fucking Tuesday. Steal it from a friend. Get it from a friend. That's amazing. Imagine having to steal from a friend and you just advise them. Wait, Joy, I got another question for you.

Oh, good. Go for it. Okay. What is the best place to hide cash in a home? Great question. Well, I'm not going to tell you where I had all my stash now. Joy doesn't believe in banks because there's going to be a run on the banks. So that is not happening now.

Back then, the shoebox worked. Shoebox, huh? Yeah. People weren't so smart back then. Come on. The shoebox works. I used to run around with my jacket that I made sure I bought. My God.

I made sure I bought jackets that had zippers in the pockets. Okay. And when I went out shopping or whatever, I might be carrying $10,000 around in cash. Wow. In my pockets with zippers up. Yeah. And well, actually, because of that, now I learned to keep money in my shoe back then. And when I flew out to California last year, I had to take out two grand in hundreds out

of my shoe because I figured somebody might grab my purse. That's true. This is all true. You can't make it up like I said. Now, when I come next year, I'm not going to put it in my shoe. Right. Because you just announced it. Right.

Because I just told it like a dumbass. Right. But it might be in your hat or some shit next year. Right. It'll be somewhere close. Probably somewhere they won't want to look. Okay. So, anyhow.

That's great. Amazing. That's pretty much it. Tony might know because I'm not sure if he ever had to. No, he never went with me on a so-called meet where I met up and we switched money. I'll find the places. What? You know, they knew who I was.

What do you mean? Even though I am the size I am, I still was able to instill that fear to be paid. I'm not back on the other page. I'm sorry. I backed up. They knew me face to face. You know, if they had to point me out in a lineup, they could easily point me out because they had paid me on two weeks in a row.

Right. But once in a while, damn it, they'd win. But not too often. So was that the most upsetting thing when somebody won? What was that? When somebody won, did that really upset you and you're like, shit, I got to pay this asshole now? Well, no, quite frankly.

I hope you don't play the lottery because, here, do you have a lottery out there? We do. I think we have a power. I don't play it. I don't play the lottery. Oh, my goodness. Well, I fed my children, and I fed my children quite well and clothed them out of money that was lost.

Right. I mean, the odds of you putting your money up there and winning the number on the lottery that actually comes out, I was very shocked once I got into the business, took all business, and found out that gee whiz, this much comes in, this much comes in, and only this much goes out. Well, then I'd throw out a few F-bombs because maybe she would usually hit it two or three days in a row, as Tony said before. Yeah.

She had one woman had an uncanny way of winning, and it just would happen, and she was very streaky. Yeah. She would hit it on a streak. I'd be a little pissed off, but I knew that next week she would pay me twice of the amount, maybe that. Wow. What's a meetup like?

I mean, do you have like a, is it a kind of like a destination that people know about and only you and the person, so it's very discreet? Is that what a meetup is? Yeah. Like right behind the bank, you know, where the cameras were. Oh, wow. Interesting. So in case anything happened.

Yeah. Very interesting. I'm very safe. They don't know what I'm doing. Wow. Somebody just pays me money. They owe me, but it's a safe, always in the light. Interesting.

If you don't know how to think of many, many, there were many things to think about. Now, Joy, did each individual person who played have to have a meetup with you? That seems like it could be a lot of meetups. I had a few select clients. Okay. And then when I had many more than the select ones, then they paid at a specific destination, and then the money was brought to me. Jesus, you are running the show.

I know. I can't. Unwaivable. 20 people. You're fucking... Wait, I got to hear what you're saying. You're like Grisel de Blanco. You're like a godmother.

Yeah. No, no, no. So I still feel like I'm paying you on Tuesday. It's almost like an unreal story. No, I feel like I owe you money Tuesday still right now. How much money do you want from Tom on Tuesday? You scared the hell out of him. I will be a fucking idiot on Tuesday.

Wait, can we go back to something? I want to ask you something about Tony's dad. Tony's dad, I'm fascinated by this because it feels like it's kind of a love story. You're a young girl. You say you never dated a guy like this. How did he court you? Like I know you said you were introduced by friends, but how did he win you over? That's a good one.

He was just very charismatic. He made it quite plain how he felt about me. He went after the quote unquote fries. That's your vagina. Yeah, that's what Tony would say. Anyhow, yes, he did. He pursued me. We saw each other weekly and then like dinner, we all went, did he take you out for dinners

and get you, you know, was it like watching Goodfellows and he was like, I got you seat up front for the show. And like the, you know, that kind of shit. No, not very often. No. Okay. No, no. I mean, my Christmas shopping a couple of hours away, you know, we weren't out in the,

of course you know that we weren't out in the limelight. Right. You know, it was. Christmas shopping. It is what it is or it was what it was. Christmas shopping, I'm assume is done with cash and not fucking Visa Mastercars. Oh dear God, yes. Oh, what is, what, I want to, because you are, and not out of my pockets either.

That's right. Out of your shoe, out of your shoe. What is, what's the most somebody has owed you? Can I ask you that? How do I have to think about that? Well, on an individual. Yeah. For the week.

No. For one week. Yeah. For the week. For one week, what one person would owe me? I'm going to say probably $1,200. Wow. Back there.

Back there. It's out in California. That's not much. Back here. That's quite a bit. 25 years ago. Right. I think 20 years ago, that, that'd be a lot to owe somebody anywhere.

One week. Yeah. And that's one week, one person. One guy. Right. Well, that's only one week, one person. Yeah. But that guy's, that guy's playing a lot of, he's playing a lot, right?

That's playing a lot of numbers. Well, wouldn't you think? Well, yeah. I'm going to put one number, $1,200 on 333. I know it's coming. Jesus Christ. I had that one coming to me. Sorry.

Maybe I, and then I had a guy that would play over and down the other people. Wait, what did I miss? We're just making fun of me. Don't worry about it. At a dollar a play, wouldn't that, I mean, at $1,200, wouldn't that be 1,200 numbers? It sounds like so much at that point. It sounds like somebody out of control. Did you try to help him and get into Gambler's Anonymous and tell him to, did you, did you

want to tell him maybe cut back on the gambling? Oh my God. I'm laughing too hard to hear you. I'm trying not to, you know, I'm trying to watch my words. You're doing a good job. Yeah. You're doing great. Don't know.

It's not what I would have said. No. This is fascinating. See, that's what makes it so funny is that she is, she, she's, that's what's amazing about her is the, is the flip side, you know, it's like, she's so unassuming, right? It's what makes like the Joker a great bad guy is because it's like, Hey, look, it's a clown. Yeah.

That's what we're used to seeing play with kids and it's like, Oh no, that's a serial killer. It's like she has this killer sense of humor. She's so gosh darn funny. She just loves to laugh and play around. Yes. So that's what makes it this ultimate twist. Well, then you package that in five feet tall, right?

And she's sweet and she just seems like every sweet American mom and I'm baking you apple pie. And then she's like, fucking Tuesday, I'll cut your fingers off. She's cooking. She's laughing. You're having fun. But there's no such thing as Wednesday. Oh my God.

Oh, this is funnier than I thought. Welcome to your first podcast, mom. Oh, it's unbelievable. Oh my God. Oh, this is funny. Tony is so Italian. Ask her this. I'm sorry.

Due to his failing grades, you know, et cetera, et cetera, because he wouldn't listen to any of these teachers. He didn't want to hear it. Yeah. He had an Italian class. I'm just sharing this because it goes along with it. Yeah. And I think it was in his, uh, maybe freshman sophomore year, which by the way, I worked

in the high school in the office for those four years to assist with this enormous, um, tuition. Mm hmm. Needless to say, I got to know all these teachers. Well, no, I really didn't want to know them, but because he didn't want to be there, I got to see them and visit with them a couple of times a week. Mm hmm. But he had an Italian class and they had an assignment and of course, Tony never did

assignments. He told me he never had homework and I believed him. I was busy being Gina, and he had to make up a project, whatever he wanted to that was Italian and being that we had sauce and meatballs cooking almost all the time, I had plenty of pasta in the house and I wake up in the morning and on my white kitchen table, there are 31 pound boxes of different kinds of pasta. And at the time we had a Polaroid camera and Tony took a picture of his 30 pounds of pasta and he ate that project.

I do remember that. That is so crazy. I forgot about that until right now. That's how you got. Isn't that funny? Yeah. Yeah. All I did was I went into our pantry, I took all the pasta out, came out to 30 boxes of

pasta. That's how Italian is that? That's so much. Just to have 30 pounds. How are you? That's 300 pounds. I don't know. I mean, you know what?

I tend to think that it helped like I think that eating a lot as a kid maybe made you more conscious of it. You know, the metabolism fast, the later on like it would just roll, but you know, that's what's crazy. I totally forgot about that and I had no idea. I remember thinking, what am I going to do? I would always put off everything until the last minute. Of course.

I mean, the worst at it. I hated doing homework. And so I go, wait a second, if I just take one Polaroid of all these boxes of pasta on the kitchen table, this is the Italian teacher is going to love this. And they did. Sure enough. Wow. Now, Joy.

How did, because I wanted, I was just thinking about how did you end up getting out of this? I mean, like you said, you know, it's feeding your kids, it's clothing your kids, you're able to take care of your family. Is there a moment or something that makes you say, I need to just get out of this now? Well, Tony had left for college and let's see that, you know, three. Not that long ago. Oh, three. Wow.

10 years ago. Yeah. 10 years ago. He left for college. Let's see. I was still doing that, of course. What made me get out of it? Yeah.

Maybe I just decided that it was a close call. I had my own money. I was feeling better than and working. Yeah. You know, I was able to overcome my back injuries, et cetera. Well, and maybe that was. That woman hit too many times and I said, screw this, but I also met someone that I had been single for 30 years and I met someone and I was moving on with my life and I didn't

think that was a good part of it. What does he think of that part of your past? Does he? Tony's father? No. No. No. You said you met somebody new.

Does he? The new guy. Yeah. What about him? What does he think? What does he think of what you did? Is he amused by it? Is he scared by it?

Does he think it's silly? Oh. Hmm. You know, I don't know what he really thought, but I want to ask him about that. I cherish it. Really? Really? Things don't bother him.

He's not like hiked up and so forth. You know, he's real late back. Very relaxed. He's a couch. Am I right, Tony? What would you say? I would totally agree with you. He's a very, very laid back, really, really just chill guy.

He's the kind of guy that would just sit on a riding lawn mower all day and drink lemonade and just be mellow. I mean, she's laughing because I just nailed it. Yeah, I'm sure you probably did. And I think that's the thing is, you know, all my older brothers and sisters have a different dad and that dad was a little tiny, sort of a weasley guy. And I think my dad came in the picture and changed that tone completely. This big, cool guy.

So I think he swooped her off her feet with that. And I think on the end, with going along with the same type of tone, I think her new guy, who's mellow. Sorry, that was a mistake. I think her new guy who's mellow and super California chill gives a different contrast to my dad. Oh, yeah. Over your dad.

Right. Dealing with that. Yes. Yeah. So he's very different than my dad. Joy, do you ever... Absolutely. Joy, do you miss it at all, the work, what you did?

Because it seems like, you know, it was such a... I mean, it is exciting. Oh, I miss it. You do. Oh, I miss it. Mm-hmm. Because you're like... Oh, I do.

I miss it. I miss it. I bet. Because it's exciting, right? I mean, you get into that lifestyle all of a sudden. I mean, it's like breaking bad. It's like Walter White. It made him feel alive, making the meth.

It was an exciting time. You know that there's something a little bit wrong with what you're doing, right? Yeah, but I say we weren't harming anybody, and let me interject that I would assume that your father is not doing that anymore. I mean, that's... Right. I'm assuming that. Right.

As am I. Yeah. Right. And when you said that the other ones had all different dads, they didn't have all different dads. The four of them had one dad. Right. Okay.

And then you came along 12 years after the first four. Right. Right. Well, Joy, let me ask you though. When you were at the height of doing what you were doing and there's people calling and you're doing meetups, were you ever afraid as this single mother and you have your kids and you know what you're doing is a little off the radar? Are you ever afraid at all?

Oh, who? Oh, there, I guess there's the answer. I mean... Of anybody. I mean... Of what? Well, I get of getting caught, of you know, of it coming to an end, of somebody maybe, maybe somebody that you're dealing with is not, you know, a good person.

Like, are you ever afraid or no? I guess not. No. Okay. No. Because you're the queen pin. No, because his father is very powerful. Right.

So you always have that. You always have that in the back of your mind. Right. Okay. I always have that. I knew I'd be out of jail in a heartbeat. And did you ever have to call his dad of any time like where something was... No.

No, never. No. No, that's what... You mean to? That's what fear... That's what... That's a powerful emotion is fear. He's a great motivator.

Yeah, he is a great motivator. Keeps people in line. You like the way your legs work? You like all the head? You like walking and standing? You like the way your legs work? Well, then listen to what Gina tells you, you stupid idiot. You know, this was really so innocent kind of.

It is interesting. To me, it was the norm. Yeah, we're... It was the norm, you know, until... Hey, it's basketball season now. You want to know how to do this? Are we like, hell yeah. Okay.

How much do I get for that? So then you started doing... How many more steaks could I feed the kids? How many balls can I make? It's true. I always... You know what I'm saying? We lived in a very shady, shoddy neighborhood in the heart of the worst neighborhood in

Youngstown. But... And she had to put me through... At that point... And she had to put me right. And she had to put me through private schools, both grade school and high school, because Youngstown's so dangerous that I could have gotten seriously hurt had I gone to the public school.

Correct. So it was interesting because I always had new Nikes and I was always going to this... These fancy schools and, you know, she wasn't leaving the house. Right. Right. So I... Worries. How do you pay for all these things?

I bet you don't fucking worry about it. Right. Ask one more question and see if you make it the Wednesday. Little callback. Mom likes the callback. Mom likes the callbacks. Enjoy. There is no Wednesday.

She's an ice-cold killer, dude. This is the best. It's all she is. Joy, you are the best. Thank you so, so much for your time and for letting us talk to you. This was so fascinating. Totally. Well, I hope I enlightened you some.

So much. It was interesting and it may be a nice song to you. It was... Don't know where I'll be tomorrow. All right. Better call Saul. Yeah. Better make some phone calls tonight.

But I swear to you, I'll pay all my bills on time forever. Make sure it's a Tuesday. You got it. You got it. Thanks, Joy. Thanks, Joy. You're welcome. I love you guys.

We love you. We love you. Bye-bye. Bye. I cannot believe... I mean, that's unbelievable. She's the coolest. Oh, my God.

That's unbelievable. That's unbelievable. It is unbelievable. I thought you guys got a fun... I thought you guys got a fun exclusive the first time. That was amazing. That there coming from the horse's mouth. I mean, that was unbelievable.

If you listen to this show, you need to first go back to Tony's first episode. Get the backstory. Get the backstory. And then you need to tell everybody that you know to listen to this episode because his mother, the fucking numbers runner bookie, just gave us the scoop of the set. That was fucking amazing. You asked questions that I didn't know the answers to. That's what's awesome.

And she's clearly never been asked some of these questions. That was the question. She was like, oh, yeah. Nobody's asking or nobody knows. Well, because when it's your family, you don't think to ask those things. My stepfather, my ex-stepfather, did some shady stuff too. We just never asked because it's implied. You don't ask those questions.

That's the common theme among friends of who I've met whose dads usually have these types of jobs. It's always like, I don't know, we just don't ask. I think my favorite response is, what does your current man think of what you did? I've never asked him that. That to me is fascinating that that just doesn't really come up. Is this weird for you, Tony, hearing your mom talk like that? Is this stuff that you'd known kind of about her?

Yeah, I knew a good chunk of that. The interesting parts were the two great questions that stood out to me. And I'm glad you asked it right before I was about to ask it, which was, what would it sound like if you needed to get the money off you and then you played that role? Right, yes. That was unbelievable. That was unbelievable. And then the second question, which capped it off for me was, do you miss it?

I was interested to hear her response and I had a feeling it was going to go that way. And when she said, yes, I mean, of course, how couldn't you? How much more exciting can life possibly get than sitting around with notebooks, your TV, your radio, whatever you want, your office, your bedroom basically is where it was really coming out of and being a boss. I mean, that's a boss. That's what rappers rap about. Yeah, man.

You know? Yes. That's fucking Scarface. And it was, I love the honesty and the authenticity of the yes. Yes. It was, it registered and she was like, oh, yes, I very much miss that. Crisp and no hesitation. Yes.

And you know, we're just coming off that. You guys watch Breaking Bad? Actually, no. Oh, wow. We're really bad about it. About popular shows. We watched them like in five years. I know.

I know. Trust me. It's one of those ones that that's both popular and unbelievable. I've heard it so much. I know I'll love it. Yeah. But what's interesting is that since you don't watch it, you know, in the end, when they wrapped it up, you find out that this character who you come to love and hate and all this

stuff, you know, he just loved making math. It just made him feel alive and while he was neglecting his family and this and that and certain other health issues and this and that, in the end, the big ending that everybody loved was basically him saying the whole, all the seasons he was going, I did it for my family. I did it for my family. Come on, wife. This is for you.

I'm doing this for you. I'm doing the final episode. He's like, you know what? Right to his wife. He goes, I did it for me. I loved it. It made me feel alive. It excited me.

Yeah. Of course. And that is that hurry. Yes. You know how you know your mom's voice. Yeah. I could tell that was like a triple. Yes.

It was like, oh, yeah. Yeah. It's so Christmas. Well, yes. I think with vices, it's one of the things that we often exclude from the conversation is that you're always trying to find like, well, what is it? What's wrong with you as for as to why you do this? And we don't go like, oh, well, the reason I like this bad thing is because it's fun.

I enjoy it. I enjoy doing the drugs because the drugs are fun. It's fun to do drugs. It's fun to make money in a way you're not supposed to. Right. All these things that are like, you know, people are trying to find the answer. Like you, a lot of times the answer is that it's really a rush dangerous dangerous and fun.

And you know what? I didn't realize because when listening to you, I thought of my mother as a single who was a single mom and we lived in a, there was a lot of fear in my house, partially because my mom's a fucking nut bag, couldn't handle anything, but also just as a single mom. Right. Raising four kids are like, oh my gosh, how is this poor woman? And then to have her say like basically, yeah, but I had essentially God watching over me, which takes away a lot of anxiety in life.

If you know that Tony is going to Tony Soprano is on your side. Right. Well, that clearly gave her the past to do what she did. Yes. Definitely. Was like she said, fear like that fee like the response to that question is fascinating to me because really what it showed was that point, which was that there's nothing to fear because I have this one phone call I can make.

Well, not only that, not only she impervious to someone fucking with her because her husband or sorry, your dad's going to beat the guy up or whatever. Sorry. I don't know what I'm talking about. Yeah. It's all in the nineties anyway. Whatever. Yeah.

But from the law. Right. Because I'll be out of jail in a second. Right. Which is like, who doesn't want that? That sounds like a dream. Oh yeah. I mean, I remember meeting police officers specifically that, you know, treated me with

the utmost respect. I remember one time being maybe 12 and going to this wrestling event, like the WWF came to Youngstown and all I wanted to do was go see that, you know, it was my favorite thing and it was coming to Youngstown and I know we didn't have much money or whatever, but this and that, I guess we sort of did like, I don't really know what was what anymore. It's really interesting. But I remember that my dad told me to go to the Beagle center and ask, want any cop there for this one guy, you know, we'll say, you know, uh, big, big tone, Barisi or whatever,

because it's a very Italian name. So I remember asking like, Hey, is Tony Barisi here? And they're like, yeah, I'll find them. And then Tony Barisi next thing, you know, I'm shaking, hit 12 year old sitting on Rowdy Roddy Piper's lap getting thrown from the big Samoan into the arms of sergeant slaughter. Like, what are you doing? Get it? Really?

I mean, I was there. I was there for the first time ever and just, I remember just crying, happy tears and being so happy. This 12 year old that was just excited to go sit if it was in the nosebleed sections, sure. Had great seats, was backstage with my heroes that were in town. Joey's kid. Let him sit on your lap.

Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing. Did you thank Tony after all that he did for you that night? Yeah. Yeah. I thank Tony. I thank him.

That's amazing. Yeah. Dude, this was amazing. Wow. Thank you for coming back. And thanks for facilitating that. It was so cool. I had no idea.

It's some of those fun things. Joey's welcome back anytime. Oh, yeah. She wants to call in. Yeah. Please. Please. She's the best.

So crazy. Next time we'll, next time we'll call my dad. We'll check in with him real quick. Should we? Just say hello for like 30 seconds just so that at the, I'll just check and go, hey, how are you? And then in the end I'll go, I love you and he won't say it back. All right.

That's what I, that's really what I want. I'm really looking forward to it. You want to do it right now? We're going to knock it out in 30 seconds or you over time. Save it for next time. Let's save it for next time. You got it. Yeah.

That's a whole thing. We can't just give that two seconds. Right. Right. Exactly. We'll leave you with some blow fly and thank you guys for listening. Thank you. Tony Hinchcliffe.

Thank you. Thanks everybody. And we'll be back soon. Thanks again. Thank you. Go to your mom's house podcast. Follow Tony Hinchcliffe on Twitter. Tony Hinchcliffe.

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