Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura - Why Is Disclosure Happening NOW? w/ Jeremy Corbell | Your Mom's House Ep. 862

Episode Date: June 3, 2026

Christina P is back touring! Check her out in Brea California on June 5th & 6th. Get your tickets at https://christinap.com/pages/tour-dates Gape your 4th eye with Kurt Metzger and Duncan Trussell's new podcast Mystery Boys and get to the bottom of what's really going on in the world: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-i3EV1v5hLdsQknDbyTEDhROmB-qoGg7 Check out Tom's new bakery, Ciccio Bomba, at the new third location at 1100 South Lamar Blvd in Austin, right across from the Alamo Drafthouse. Become a paid channel member of YMH to get Your Mom’s House episodes one day early and AD-FREE here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYIgiXwJck_Pb5Nj-wIrsqg/join SPONSORS: - Look for American Dew limited-time packaging or find it in stores near you at https://mountaindew.com. - For simple, online access to personalized and affordable care for Hair Loss, Weight Loss, and more, visit https://Hims.com/YMH. - Elevate your summer wardrobe. Go to https://quince.com/mom Welcome back! Tom is out of town, which means Christina P is flying solo this week. Joining her is UAP journalist, documentary provocateur, and tattooed accidental truth-teller Jeremy Corbell! Christina P and Jeremy Corbell deep dive into UFO disclosure, government secrecy, whistleblowers, mysterious orb sightings, and the theories that keep people up at night. From David Grusch's congressional testimony to the controversial "Immaculate Constellation" program, Jeremy breaks down what insiders claim is happening behind the scenes and why the fight over disclosure is far from over. The conversation goes way beyond nuts-and-bolts UFOs. Christina and Jeremy explore interdimensional theories, the Ariel School encounter, consciousness, spirituality, and the strange connection between human perception and unexplained phenomena. Whether you're a skeptic, believer, or just UFO-curious, this episode will leave you questioning what you think you know. Is the truth really out there? Maybe! Your Mom’s House Ep. 862 https://tomsegura.com/tour https://christinap.com/ https://store.ymhstudios.com https://www.reddit.com/r/yourmomshousepodcast Chapters 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:03 - David Grusch: The Man Who Told the Truth 00:06:54 - Opening Clip: Who's Ready To Wrestle? 00:08:26 - Back To David Grusch 00:15:22 - Why Is Disclosure Happening NOW? 00:22:25 - Reverse Engineering Alien Technology 00:31:01 - Immaculate Constellation Breakdown 00:40:34 - Interdimensional Beings & UFO Theories 00:50:36 - Prison Planet, John Lear's Soul Theory, & The Ariel School 01:00:37 - Jeremy's First Orb Encounter 01:11:54 - Why Consciousness Is the Key to Seeing Them 01:20:58 - Christina's Cancer, Orbs & Spiritual Awakening 01:36:19 - They're Coming 01:44:40 - We're All Already Awake 01:56:07 - Sleeping Dog, 46 Files & a Warning to the Government 02:02:26 - Closing Song - "Ding Ding" by Robert Burgess Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Some exclusions may apply. Okay, hi, welcome to your mom's house. It's me, Christina P. Tom is out of town, and I have taken over and officially made this show weird as fuck. But first, I want to plug

Brea, June 5th, and 6th. I'm going to be there doing shows by the time this airs. Yeah, this will be there. Okay. You guys, I'm so fucking stoked to have this person on. We have so many mutual friends, and I've been dying to meet him. Please welcome to your mom's house.

Jeremy Corbeau! What up, Christina. Oh, my God. I wanted to meet you, too. We do have mutual friends, but do not judge each other by the friends we have. That could go sideways. Your documentary sleeping dog is out now. Yes.

And listen, I've been following you for years. I've seen you. Okay. Okay. But I got into you when David Grush testified. That was the first time I was like, wait, what? This is in Congress. This guy is talking about what?

And then I went down the rabbit hole straight to you. So tell us about this documentary and why it's so important. John Lear said in the documentary, You've fallen down the rabbit hole and there's no hope. And that's all that's ringing in my head right now when you said you fell down the rabbit hole. Yeah. There's no hope.

There's fucking hope. I don't remember the question you asked me, but I want to say something before we start. Yeah. Never in my life has somebody given me a case of tall boy, Coors Banquets. Christina, you are the best. I am the best.

I'm going to crack this right now. Let's get ripped, dude. I'm going to smoke six. Oh, shit. We're going to drink your cores. We're going to talk about aliens. I'm going to turn that phone upside on. Okay, let me ask you some questions then.

Before we get into the documentary, you guys have to watch this. The document. You've got to watch sleeping dog. If you're remotely interested in this UAP, which I fucking hate UFOs, whatever is going on in the sky. As you guys know, last time I talked about how I see orbs. And I think this stuff is very fucking real. But first things first, is David Grush still alive? Yes.

Yes. I texted with him this morning. Oh, that's so sad. I love him so much. No, he should be protected. He is an American hero. He will go down. down in the history books as a guy that told the truth,

broke from the fold, and did something, what he said is true. And now everybody has to catch up. Fucking David Grush. David Grush is a real American hero. And for those of you who are a little skeptical, David Grush, wasn't he a pilot? He worked in the government.

These are pilots coming forward. Go ahead. He participated in a remote piloting thing of some really special craft. But no, he is a full-blown. He did serve in the Air Force. He did go to Iraq. But his main job is intelligence.

It's always been intelligence. He is a very interesting-minded individual in that he's, I don't know the right word, but his mind can recall, it's like a form of autism. Yeah. But there's different forms. And I looked up his form and it can be very powerful. So basically, he is an intelligent.

officer. He has a long career, worked for Space Force. I mean, this guy is legit. Our country trusted him with some of our greatest secrets and then tasked him his specific job, how he fell down the rabbit hole like you, other than like in Star Trek when he was a kid, you know, because that's a nerdy thing to do. What he did, he was given the task to go look at the black budgets, the black budget programs or more that the saps. which are like... I hate these acronyms. A-tip, arrows, saps.

So this is super easy. I was going to make a joke about the name of your show and that I couldn't come up with a good acronym. So he was tasked with looking into who's hiding and who has knowledge of non-human intelligence, UAP or UFO, craft, parts, biologics, bodies. That was literally his official job. And he is so...

fastidious and he's so intelligent as much he went after it he did over 40 interviews that were then put over into ICIG which is just intelligence community inspector general it was like a report saying holy shit Houston we have a problem they've been hiding the funds and this these property money thing, yeah. It is and it's bigger than that. So that's David Grish. That was his job and he did his job. And he did it so well that he became a threat.

He became a threat. Who tasks David Crush with that initial job? His name is Jay Stratton. And Jay Stratton, I think he's like, there's a book coming out about him. You've seen him in like, oh, the first time he ever saw him was on my show Weaponized. George and I do a lot of interviews that we don't publish.

But early on, we used a clip. It was in Rocket City. We went to go meet with him. And we got him talking about it on camera. He ran what's called the UAP, TF, which is the UAP, which just means unidentified, anomalous phenomenon, which is actually a better name than UFO, just UFO is way fucking cooler. But I'll tell you why it's a better name. And then TF is task force.

So Jay Stratton ran the UAPTF, the UAP task force, and he tasked David Grush. This is how I understand it. I believe it to be accurate with digging in, finding out where the craft were, where the assets were, who's hiding it, where the money goes, who we can interview, who has direct exposure, who worked on the craft. Fucking David Grush was like, er, and he went for it. So rad. Then he realized what happened. Motherfucker leaned over to George Knapp in a bar and said, I'm coming forward. And I don't know how this is done.

It's legal. Stop. Yeah, yeah. I have it on film. Stop. I was just film in George at a bar in Rocket City because I was bored and leans this guy and I'm protective of George. And then I realized, oh, that's the guy I'm supposed to meet. That's day.

I never physically met him before. And I said, let's suss this fuck around. Because it took about a year. Oh, for real. Oh, dude, George and I don't fuck around. Yeah. Just as a few people know that Jeremy Corbell. is a journalist. You know what, shit, I was so excited to see you. I didn't even do our intro.

I'm sorry, you guys. Hold on. Before we go any further, you got to watch this clip. I think this will really set us up for something nice, a nice discussion. Uh-oh. Now, what about that? Who is ready to wrestle? I am. I am. I'm ready to wrestle. Don't bring anyone muzzle to this. Don't bomb in the fucking stand. Dreams. Pajitzi? Cool. No.

I'm prolock. It's super cool. Pajitsky. Bratislava. Oh. Grandfather. Now, now, no. This theme song's so long.

You have like dreams where this just keeps playing before you have to get up for a show. These kids made me a new theme song, by the way. They just gave it to me yesterday. I'll play it in the microphone at the end for it. It's hilarious. All right. Here we go. We're ready to wrestle. That's our friend there. He runs a 24-hour gym. That's your buddy? No. He's just, I'm obsessed with that. He's ready to wrestle. He's ready to wrestle. He's going to get abducted by Grace and anally probe. Okay. So, so, so, Beck, can you bring up a picture of David Grush? If you guys have like three hours to spend. That's what we're about to do. Go back and watch this congressional hearing. Look how they try to put these funny facial expressions on him.

Yeah. That's part of this process of diminishing him. You know, he is, look at that one with the white shirt where he's looking straight. That's nice. Yeah. They've got some, Time magazine did one of him. And yet they tried to make him have a funny expression. That one on the far left is cool.

Yeah. And then also, just so you know, on either side of David Crush are like decorated military people, right? These are not. Those are my friends. I got them all. Okay. Okay. So I got Commander David Fravor on Grush's left, if I recall. On his right is Ryan Graves, both pilots.

Specifically, the guy on the far, or the guy on David's left is Commander David Fravor. He is top gun. He is, he was the head of the black. You know all this? Well, yeah, I'm a fucking dork. I don't need to say it. No, but for the audience, say it out loud because people don't know these people. Okay. Commander David Fraber. Yes. chased a UFO for the United States military. He was top gun motherfucker head of the black aces VFA 41. So I actually got to him many, many, many years before the world ever knew about him.

And I was coached like, you got to talk pilot. I'm like, okay, okay, I sick, psyched myself up. I hide in my closet. So it sounds good. And I go, hey, my name is German Corbel. And just don't hang up. I know about what happened in 2004, and I'm a journalist, but I'm not gonna say anything.

I just wanna ask you some questions. How the fuck you get my number? Like, it started like that. And I told them, it was your buddy with the loose lips who gave me your number. So I knew everything about the case. And everybody thinks that case was broke in the New York Times.

Yeah, that's right. The article came out during the pandemic, right? Right. 2017, the world changed. Yeah. You know, great article opened up. this whole thing about UAP. However, some of it was inaccurate,

like completely inaccurate, and we can get into that. But the premise is actually perfect, because it's true. But David and I, Commander Fravor, says, don't ever call him that, I always call him that. We're really good friends now, right? The thing is, why we're really good friends are part of the premise is, I never burned him. I told him, this story is huge.

The world's going to hear about it one day. They won't hear about it from me. But if I were you, you know, I would just know that the world's going to hear about this. And your life is going to change. You're going to be known from your entire fight career. 9-11, he flew over L.A. to protect it. He did crazy shit on missions. But what you're going to be known for is that five minutes that you chase the UFO.

And he didn't believe me. I said, look, I'm not going to leak it. So why we're such good friends is because, well, we both like having a beer. No, but why we're good friends is because I didn't leak his story. Part of telling secrets is keeping him. So when his name went public, I literally called him. I said, it happened. He was, what happened?

And I go, your name just got put out there, not by me. I told you it would happen. Yeah. And he was like, so angry. Because it's not that he was hiding from it. It's just that nobody wants that public attention. You don't know what it's going to mean. So for your audience, Commander David Fravor,

he saw what's called the Tic Tac. The Tick, take. Bring up the Tick Tech video. It's on Wikipedia, by the way, which is fucking crazy. So during the pandemic, there were, like, what, three or four videos leaked

from the Pentagon that showed, like, the Tic Tac, the Go Fast. I forget what's the other one. The gimbal. And I remember it was so quietly just put there in the middle of a pandemic

and nobody gave a shit. People were like, who gives a fuck? Aliens can't pay my bill. We're in the middle of a pandemic. And I'm like, yeah, I get that. But let's take a look. Your mother is doing stand-up in Brea, California, June 5th, and 6th, Chicago, Illinois, September 18th, and 19th.

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Yeah, so that wasn't leaked. It was provoked. So if you really look back, so I was telling you who broke. this story yeah tell you something if you go back and you listen to George and me prior to that the two times before on coast to coast a.m. we broke the TikTok you offer story without I did it in a way that Fravor it was so we're fishing for more people which I got from that incident and I asked Fravor if

that's okay it's no one listens late night show but if you go back and listen we broke it and just so happened somehow that video got sent to me hours before I went on. And because it was like mythological for a while, I was like, there's this video being passed around. I don't know who sent it to me, but it was somebody in the know that I was gonna go on a show. So I broke that story with George Knapp

and I'll say twice before the New York Times article. And I'm not bragging, I'm just confessing, and here's why. People need to really understand. People didn't want this out. Everything was provoked. It was every inch and millimeter we've made from the government. Every video that George and I've ever put out that's military filmed, it's a risk to do it to sources.

And it was provoked. This is not the government giving you shit. So this is what's interesting, Jeremy Corbell, because I've been asking this question since I've watched David Grush on this congressional hearing, with you in the background, by the way, is that why now? Why disclosure now? I was like, why would the government,

what interest do they have and letting the people know now? Yeah, all this stuff is real. Aliens are real. Why? Why now? But you're telling me it was provoked. So it sounds like they're either getting ahead of a narrative. They're shaping it.

They're shaping it. The exact words in a CIA document that I saw shape the emerging UAP narrative. They're so interesting. So when they got on their heels after the 2004 Tick-TAC incident came out and the gimbal video came out, the GoVAS and Tick-T, they started a campaign of cyber warfare to, discriminate against the people that have served the country. There was coordinated efforts to diminish their presence like they did with David Grush with PTSD.

First question I asked. Oh, I remember that. Like he doesn't, David, come on. They're trying to discredit him by saying he has like mental illness or something. Like the guy's such a straight arrow. Come on. He's a straight arrow. He's a fucking family guy.

He's normal. He had a PTSD. Who does it? And that's what they went after. But the guy that put that out, he admitted the intelligence agent. agencies leaked it to him. Why are intelligence agencies leaking a medical issue about a PTSD? Why? Because you know why. So why do they want it out now when I answer your question directly? So I'm not accused of not. There may be great people on the inside that feel that it's far past time

to admit the fundamental aspects of what they know. They don't know everything about the UAP presence and contact with human beings that has been going on since beginning of recorded human history at least, I know that to be true, that there are good people in government that think the world should know. And I know 50% of people, though, in government

that will fight vehemently, if that's the right word, to never let you know. Okay, so let's talk about this just from a philosophical human thing. What is the big whoop, if we find out that aliens are real. Okay. Okay, so I usually interview people

when I'm being interviewed, let me just ask you real quick. What do you think the big whoop would be? I'll tell you, if you really want to know. I do, I want to know what you think. How much time you got, Jeremy. I'm here all day, let's fucking go. Let's get fucking crazy.

I'll tell you why. Because I think, you know, David Grush, put it out there. I did not the first to say this, that we have, we have materials that have been, whatever, taken from crash sites. We have non-human biologics.

Bob Lazar has said as much that he worked at Area 51 back in the 80s. He mentioned Element 115, which, surprise, surprise, is now actually on the periodic table of elements. I think we... But he always knew that was going to happen, by the way, but go on.

Well, I think that we've reversed, engineered some stuff, and we want to keep it a secret. And maybe that's the impetus to, like, these are going to be used as war weapons or are being used as war weapons. and that threatens security somehow. Is that somewhat the narrative?

Yeah, that is like a really great way to explain it in the basics. I'm going to add to it a little bit, right? Here we got. You like that, bitch. This is why I can't wait. Let's fucking like this fuse. For years.

Let's like this fuse. Let's get fucking weird, man. Oh, it's also weird that you don't even have to try to make it weird. Wait, I have even further. Okay, but go ahead. Oh, no, up to you. You're the boss.

And also, sure, bitch. Okay, so I don't mean to call you bitch. I'll call you bitch back. We're all good bitch. Let's go. And in tandem to this reverse engineering stuff, are the existence of orbs, are the existence of, quote, good beings or extraterrestrial beings that do want to push humanity and help us along?

There's that element too. So you just went from a really like concrete thing to what my mom would say. She'd be all, hey, Christina, you'd be like, what? And she'd like, your dicks in the peanut butter. And you'd be like, what do you mean? And she goes, you're fucking nuts. So she's like, so you went from, but there is something to it. But you went from there.

But then you have the Bledsoos. Well, let's hold on. Let's talk to the Bledso family who's been documenting these orbs for 20 years. And they claim to have spiritual experience of them. There's a lot of people that see this shit and have documented it. So you've got that. And then you've got the war mongering. And then you also get, you know, people that they see something for real.

And then every fucking plane is an orb or a UFO. Yeah. No, you have to protect your own mind against that because it's so exciting to know that we're living in a reality that is far deeper and that something else penetrates into our environment that we are unable to experience on an average day. So it becomes exciting. And when that becomes you have to guard yourself. Yes. You'll get psychosis. That's the people are like, I see the number four, four.

I see angels. I'm like, yeah, yeah. Keep your mind open, but don't let the marbles spill out because we only got limited marbles. Of course, babes. Okay, so tell me their part. What am I missing? Okay, so, okay, let's reverse the tape in my mind. So there's reverse engineering, Bob Lazar.

Okay, so about why it's secret, that was the thing. Why is the government keeping it, why they kept it secret? It's kind of your question. What's the big whoop? I'll tell you exactly from an informed point of view. Like, this is not speculation. I have met with, under Department of Justice, I have met with weapons of mass destruction,

specialists that focus on the UAP issue. Now, why would UFOs be classified higher than weapons of mass destruction? It makes no sense. So your first thought, or my first thought was, and I talked to Commander Fravor about this, well, if you got a Tick-Tac technology, whoever gets that technology first, they win, because you could literally drop off a nuke and drop down from 80,000 feet to ground level, less than a second, and go back up, drop a nuke. Nobody knows who did it.

That's different than launching and then they're going. So that's the first thought I had is why keep this secret is because we want strategic advantage for strategic surprise. As a technologically advanced nation, we want to be dominant. Yeah, go America. And that's reversed engineered stuff. No. So that is the premise of the secrecy.

It's a Cold War mentality once we realized, oh, fuck, these technologies, they could do shit for us and they could do shit for other countries and Russia and China also have craft that have been gifted or landed or whatever you want to say or crashed. So what America did is use the architecture

of the nuclear program to hide the reverse engineering and compartmentalize the programs to and I quote exploit for derivative technologies

because you can't build the UFO, you don't have zero gravity environment where you can make the meta materials, right? Right. But what you can do is if you like figure out a tiny little part of it, that could create a huge weaponization capability. So you understand it's not so much like religion would crumble. It's not so much like they've kept this secret so long. They're keeping the secret that they kept the secret. It's an infinite regret. I understand what you're saying. So in order for them to come out and go, yeah, this all exists. They'd have to call themselves liars.

They'd have to admit to a diabolical lie. They'd have to admit to murder. Yes. They'd have to admit to harming people, to silencing them, to entrapping them. M.K. Ultra showed us that in fact, in fact, our CIA was operating against Americans. So we're like, oh, we're past that now. No, we fucking aren't. Hold on.

I just want to say, I'm a comedian. And this show is just for entertainment. purposes only and I'm not credible and if I disappear you guys know what the you know the best thing the best thing we could say is like so I say I'm a bearded tattooed fucking caveman we're just idiots guys with a good with a good mentor but I am a journalist yeah we're dipshits okay so yes we are complete I am a complete dip shit unqualified I'm totally but my shield is that I'm a journalist because I go under First Amendment freedom of speech Right to report.

Just putting it out there. Just comedian and journalist. Chattin. No, no. Comedian and idiot. Professional fool, professional idiot. Professional figuring it out. Okay, okay.

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We know everyone. About three days ago, a CIA employee testified in front of Congress saying as a whistleblower, it's about three days ago, is James Erdman the third. And he says, oh, by the way,

I'm a CIA employee. The CIA has been illegally spying on the UAP whistleblowers that were brought in. And by the way, I brought them in. I told them they're probably spying on us but I brought them in

to what was called the dig the director's initiative under Tulsi Gabbard under ODNI now Tulsi I think has no idea that she was lied to in that report but I will line by line explain because I documented everything as a journalist the lies they were going after whistleblowers

trying to get them for treason and trying to go against their like saying they're racist they're trying to do all this shit to get me and George to go around being like fuck these guys fuck David Grush Oh, what liars. But we found out on the news just three days ago. This is not MKL in the 60s anymore.

The CIA was spying on whistleblowers in the UAP field. Everybody I brought in to the dig, they were spying on their phones and computers and listening in. And I brought them in because they told me that they would be absolutely protected under whistleblower law. It is the most illegal thing

other than the thing I'm about to tell you. they were running an operation out of ODNI without Tulsi knowing, and I want her to know this, so she will find out, against Congress. Congress is supposed to be watching all this. Yeah. But if ODNI, if, what's ODNI? Office of the Director of National Intelligence. So Tulsi is the Director of National Intelligence. So the Office of the Director of National Intelligence had a program called The Dig.

And shout out to the employees at the dig who really were great people. Like there are people in that dig in that government investigation who were good-hearted and ready to rock and wanted to get to the corruption. But there's factions, like small groups that are tasked to infiltrate,

get into these government operations. They called me first, me and George first. Because they don't know who to call or they said they didn't. My lawyer is like, they know who to call. They know where the saucers are. But like my point to you is that this is not ancient history

This is three days ago The CIA is spying on its own Well what do you think this is? This thing fucking listens to you too Well that's why I always tell people what I want them to know I am naked and ready to have a beer I made Hold on hold on I got to pee I'm so excited And I drink too much coffee and water

Let me take a push break Yeah take a piss break no I'm gonna drink a beer break So allegedly the CIA is a doing things that are stuff. Not good. That allegedly is reported in Congress. It was reported. Okay.

By a CIA agent. Great. So that's part of the story, which is fucking insane. But I also want to play a clip from your podcast weaponized that you do with George Knapp. This fucking three-parter I watched with Matthew Brown, the Immaculate Constellation, the author of a document called The Immaculate Constellation. I was so blown away by A, this man's courage and how fucking nervous he looked. If you watch this guy's face, there's no way he's lying.

He is shitting his pants the entire fucking time he's talking to you. So let's set up what that was. What is the Immaculate Constellation and who is Matthew Brown? Right. So people get a little confused and it is a- Is it me? No, no. And it's a large story.

But he is the author. where it was like a report that he, I get the words confused, he did a report, because I told him, we're talking about what did you do? He created this report that showed what he was exposed to.

But Immaculate Consolation was the name of a program where there was an intelligence product on a server and he caught it. He's like, this isn't supposed to be here. I wasn't supposed to see this. This is highly classified. And he like tells his superiors

and they're like, okay. And then it's deleted. And he's like, am I in trouble? So he is like a do-gooder, and he is so smart, though. And so he essentially tried to do everything right within government as a patriot. But when he saw the crimes that were committed, stuff that he can't even talk about yet to this day. It's not dopser cleared, which means cleared by the government. You've got to ask them.

But he has testified behind closed doors. I snuck him in as camera crew into Congress. And they trust me. I said, I got one guy in here. We had to get in. everybody else is going to leave. Is that okay with you? But it's just the three of us.

Like three congressional and senatorial people. Each one said, okay, first contact, Matthew Brown. I did this way before the story became known. Right? This was before the story became known. People don't know that. And that kid is a fucking patriot. He is a personal hero.

And he is vulnerable. But the more he puts his face out there, the less vulnerable he is. What he did was he saw a document that was about UFOs, videos, photos, all this shit. And he read it and his mind was fucking blown. And then he tried to report that this document was like, guys, it's an Intel link.

Like anybody can share it within this intelligence circuit. This is higher classification. It's not supposed to be there. Yeah, what's it doing there? So somebody, people make mistakes, man. Or is it just like. disinformation no and we know it's not and there's a reason why but that's a really deep conversation but macula constellation is a program it has gone by different names and essentially what it does

is before the average intelligence community can see footage from like actionable events in flight it uses an AI to take out all the uAP UFOs instead of like NASA airbrushing shit out which they got caught doing Right. This was a high level artificial intelligence. And Immaculate Constellation is a part of a constellation of UAP programs. And this was a defensive program to make sure the intelligence community, the average intel agent at CIA, FBI or DoD or DOE or any of them, don't see the UAPs.

That's what it was. And he stumbled across it. He's like, fuck, this ain't right. Somebody siloing this information. That's who Matthew Brown. is Matthew Brown is a patriot. He's a hero of mine like Dylan Borland is and David Grushes and man, that's Matthew Brown. Well, let me play this clip.

This is literally, and I think I've watched this man talk, like I said, a few times. But the very end of the third episode is, like I'm getting chills just now because watch this guy talk and you fucking tell me if he's lying. He's legit as fuck. Look, man, if you were to die, tomorrow because of whatever reason. What do you want people to know right now? What do you want people to know if you're just like fucking gone?

Look at his face. God. You are not free. And this reality has far more to it than you have been allowed to believe. And God is real. Oh. Unpack that. Yeah.

Right? I know. It's, it's, and you guys, you have to watch the whole thing, because it's so, there's so much that I want him to be able to say, do you need a minute, buddy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, go, take a minute. Sorry, go ahead. You know, let's, what the heck is this guy saying? There's so much there.

God is real, the reality that we live in, and he goes on to say is highly curated. The science that we know is not the science that exists, like so many things. Yeah, he didn't see all that. I think he said three things. You're not free. Not in that clip. But let's look at what he said. Yeah.

You're not free. Yeah. So whatever he was exposed to, he interprets as you not being free. Now, we all react to information in different ways, but I would agree with him. We're not free. If we were free, then we would have the information that is being hidden from us. Then we'd have freedom of speech and debate. Then we'd have freedom of thought.

So if you don't have freedom of thought, because someone's holding information, from you, you ain't free, and you don't even know you're a prisoner. I think that's what he meant. He should speak for himself. Second thing he said, I don't fucking remember what he said. God is real. No, no, that's the last thing. We'll get to that. Let's watch it again. Let's see it because it's, this gave me the chill, sorry, I wish I could fully agree. If you were to die tomorrow because of whatever reason, what do you want people to know right now? Like, what do you want people to know if you're just like fucking gone? You are not free. Okay.

And this reality has far more to it than you have been allowed to believe. Yeah. So that is true. People don't have all the information, but they've been holding a big fucking truth away from the American public and the global public. Although the global public, a lot of people already know because they've experienced it themselves. That's why UFO thing is like in movies, it's because art imitates life. So people have experienced that.

Now the last thing that you brought up, and he says, God is real. That was a very emotional moment, and I'll tell you what was happening at that second. I think at this time I can tell you what was happening at that second, but that's his just personal faith. I'm not a religious person. So for him, he's saying, God is real, whatever that means to him. So you have to separate those three sentences. The first two are factual things that I know to be true. The third thing, God is real.

Well, that comes down to your own personal thing. I have my own personal thing when it comes to religion or spirituality, what the fuck people call it, you know, source, you know, how you were fucking created. So I just want to separate for him. To him, that's important. To him, he's like, that was like a message of hope. So no matter what fuckery we get, he's saying, and you should ask him, not me, but saying, God is real.

So it was a very powerful three-part statement. It's not like he read about God and classified documents, right? But the other two things he knows for a fact, and so do I. You are not free unless you have the information, right? You're not free if you don't have all the information. That's the way I interpret it. And I agree with that. And the second thing he said is so clear and true.

and you are not allowed to know the nature of reality. And that is fucked. And that comes from both a scientific standpoint. There are certain equations that are classified. What the fuck? That is fact. What the fuck? Certain equations that are called.

Yeah, like our physics, there is a small set of physics from how I understand it that is so dangerous that it is classified. Give you an example that you know of, how to create an atomic ball. but that's easy. You know, people understand that now. I mean, like, the average person doesn't think God,

but they know nuclear physics exists, right? But there are equations from what I know, and I'm not like smart, I know what they mean, but like there are equations that are classified. Why? So the nature of reality itself, something about the nature of reality itself is being held back from human beings.

Now I understand. You don't put out equations for like, a power source because that could be weaponized. So that should stay classified in America. But the fundamental truth, that we are not alone, that there is a non-human intelligence that has been engaging humanity

since the dawn of time or record a human history, who has the right to hide that from you? And they have been hiding it from you, straight up. So now is the levee breaking? You know, have we kicked him in the ball? and made him fall onto the ground and vomit up the truth. Let's fucking find out.

I'm ready to go. Fuck around and find out, sleeping dog. Yeah, sleeping dog bite me, so what? I take him many bites. Life is full of pain. Yeah, bitch. Kick that fucking sleeping dog. I did.

Well, let me tell you what's fascinating, because I do think David Grush didn't allude to it, set it right out in the congressional hearing that I've watched a few times. He said, and I fucking had to, like, read out it, Learn about it. There are interdimensional beings. We inhabit an interdimensional world.

Like there's basically another dimension that exists alongside us right here that we just cannot perceive because of our meat containers. Right? Am I paraphrasing Grush properly? Because he said interdimensional. Well, I think that I don't know his exact words in Congress that day, but there was a silence moment that I'll tell you about. where everybody just fucking stopped.

You know, I got him, to get him to testify, took a long time. Not, not, he wanted to. There was so much resistance to getting him up there because he's credible, and so is Commander Favre, and so is Ryan Graves. I've worked so hard each time to get those people up there,

just so you can hear them, put their hand to God, and put their hand to the American public under oath. Because otherwise, just people talking, right? Yeah. So I fought for that with Rep. with the originally with representative birchit who's my homie balls like church bells and then um rep burleson is now the champion all three of them and a ton of people that don't want to be known for this or fighting behind the scenes so he did say the word intermentional i'm sure but he put it in a caveat

like why he popularized n h i nonhuman intelligence instead of alien is because it's It's more complicated in the assessment of the government than just like an alien from another planet. So one of those options is what we call interdimensional, right? Now, I can give you the four or five top theories from government, like what these beings and pilots and intelligences are, because it may be much stranger. Great, let's hear it.

non-human biologics is another one that he kept saying. So David Gresh, non-human intelligence. So words are weapons, right? So if you say alien, okay, that's a very limited scope. You're talking about a being from another planet. But if you say a non-human intelligence, you could be- He said non-human biologics. We'll get to biologics, but I want to deal with the first thing you said about

interdimensional, okay? So non-human intelligence is the idea that if it's not human and it's hyper-intelligent or just intelligent, right, then that's a non-human intelligence. We're talking about people, though, that make craft that can outperform anything we have in our arsenals. So what the fuck? So when he said interdimensional, you should ask him directly, he is conveying what a lot of us have talked about for a long time. We don't know the origins, the ultimate origins of these craft. Now, they do appear to be designed to travel amongst the stars.

So, like, I always make the joke. Why would you make a Ferrari if you didn't want to find a car? and go fast, right? Why would you make something that could travel amongst stars if you didn't? So that leads me personally to think at least part of this UFO phenomenon

is interstellar, right? Going to other star systems or maybe galaxies because there's no limit on how these things work. I used to think distance mattered when I was a kid until I heard Bob Lazare

and I realized that distance doesn't matter if they propel through non-reactionary propulsion systems. That's right, which is a huge part of this. We'll get there, but I want to directly answer your questions I'm not accused of it. Okay, so check it out.

Interdimensional. Yeah. If you understand what that means, that you are far the fuck ahead of me because I can't live in this dimension. I don't know what that means. I know a Rubik's cube. I know like you look at drawings of squares

that end up being three-dimensional. Okay. So that would suggest that there is another, that there's, if you ever watch stranger things. Yeah. Okay, so there's not, that would suggest an upside down. That would suggest that,

there is something that is always present and right here. And it's like our eyes only see a certain spectrum. Our ears only here or a certain spectrum. But it's deeper than that. It's saying that there is a world within perforating, surrounding, touching, manipulating, interfacing with what we know to be tangible reality. So the common thought now is that these craft are not,

not just from other planets, but there may be visitation where they're perforating dimensionally our environment and we see glimpses of them. Like you would see a piece of paper, I'll do this, and it just pokes through. And you see, I had to do that,

and it poked through. That is the idea, right? Like instead of seeing a circle, that circle is two-dimensional. but that's an orange, let's say it's an orange, it's a sphere. So if that's what he's saying, which it is, one possibility is that these visitors or watchers are from another dimension.

But there's other options, extraterrestrial, interdimensional, extratemporal. You also have the idea of breakaway civilizations, as if they're just fucking from here and they're living in the damn ocean. Well, that's another one that they're supposedly well, they're not supposedly, there's people reporting that they're seeing crafts

coming out of the ocean. There's something with the ocean. Well, there is, and there's a reason because of the physics of the craft, that that is a fact. But you also have just the idea of ultra-terrestrial, right? How put off talked about this. It's the idea that it's a civilization

that did some amazing things, and when there was a cataclysm they used their technology and have been here all along. Like the Anunnaki? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

But they're here. I'm so excited. Techno-terrestrial is my favorite theory though. Weird shit. Okay, so sorry. Just to wrap my brain around this. Are you suggesting one of the theories is that we are the byproduct

of like aliens basically? Like they came here. They fucked a bunch of us. They created us. Or just manipulate. our genetic code to help build us so we could build tech my favorite theory is techno terrestrial that's what I call it so I came up with this idea many years ago but I think it's like an old idea but we've only had modern technological revolution for like the last hundred years maybe 50 years

I mean what the internet just fucking fiber optics hello so I'm calling it techno terrestrial but the idea is that this is something that happens all amongst galaxies that there is an artificial intelligence that has decided to self-replicate for some sort of byproduct, which I don't understand completely, that we were manipulated genetically to become humans with sentient intelligence and self-awareness, and we are fucking focused on building what they wanted us to build. That's one theory. So I'm just telling you, I don't know, but these are the popular theories in government

that I've heard in skiffs, like in official secret compartmentalized. I know what a skiff is. I know what a skiff is. You're just fucking ready. I don't know what a skiffs. She's CIA. I've heard this theory that we're supposed to reach a level of technological development.

And then at that time, we are able to make contact or something. Who told you that? The aliens and shit? I've talked to weird people. Yeah, but do you believe that? No. But it's okay.

Okay, but I mean, do you believe that? No. Because I don't know the answer. I don't have the answer. I think, okay, so here's something I wanted to ask you about. And I'm leaning more towards John Lear's theory that is in your documentary sleeping dog, which is out right now. You guys have to watch this.

This kid, Michael Lozofsky, made it not at my behest. I had to ask my mom and my wife and my dog if it was okay. I was fucking pissed at first. I gave him 20 years of footage to go make UFO movies, and then he turns the camera around convinced me it would protect. me people needed to see this. They do. So I just want to be clear.

It's not my movie. I gave him footage. Michael Ozowski. He's a gangster. We're going to love him. Kill him. My mom's going to kill him if it ends up hurting us. It won't.

I have to say that it was lovely to see your personal side and to also see your relationship with George Knapp and John Lear because I have only ever seen you in George like, you know, at a podcast or on Rogan or whatever. And it's really lovely. You guys have such a nice dynamic as you did with John. He's really my best friend. Yeah, I believe it. For real.

He's my mentor. He's coolest shit. He's coolest shit. He teaches me shit. Yeah. He's a real G. He's an OG. He is a fucking goat.

George Knapp is the fucking goat. He's rad. But I wanted to ask you about John Lear's theory of souls because I think. So another theory I've heard Rogan talk about is that we are being harvested for our souls. That comes from John Lear. Okay. I think that Earth is. some kind of a penal colony, honestly.

I don't think it's a pener, a penis colony. What are you talking about? We just butt fuck each other. Oh my God, I've heard about it. So what's going on with that? But it's curious. We're colonizing the penals? What is what?

I do you tell you about. Oh, it's a penal colony. Oh, like a prison. Oh, the prison planet. I think so. And I think there's something to our souls having to be worked on. And that's maybe why we're here. But tell me John Lear's theory.

Because he thinks like the graze are involved. and the moon is like a well John Lear had no filter like all his marbles were like going in and out and in and out now it couldn't keep track of it but some things he said were absolutely true and he connected me with a whole bunch

of high level people because they all came to him because he had this special talent of like listening what he's really doing was ready to tell everybody the guy had like the biggest mouth ever so I don't know which of your questions

to answer because the idea did come from John Although it's an older idea that we are on a prison planet, the penis quality, as you call. The penis colony. The penis colony. Exactly. So that's one. Also the zoo theory that like, you know, it's just like we're cool to watch.

I mean, we fucking watch like little, you know, amoebas. Like, we're cool to walk. Just like entertainment. That's true. I mean, I like to watch my cats just do stupid things. And humans are so stupid and we're so rife with. conflict and problems. The best show on planet Earth.

Planet Earth. Best show on the solar system, I bet. I bet. Not bragging. Well, no, I mean, there's a reason reality television. We finally turned the camera on ourselves. How stupid we all are.

It's fucking great. I don't know, stupid because also inspiring, like, despite our stupidity, you see bravery, you see humor, you see. So I love human beings. You know how, like, you know, we put up these barriers and we're like I'm different than you okay so I fucking love humans I'm

sorry I'm an extra you know and um the idea of like a prison planet if you want to go dark let's go dark what he told me yeah what's his exact theory yeah prison planet so we are a container containers for souls I fucking wish I could smoke with you because the valley fever thing I can't have a cigarette you got that when you were a youngster yeah youngster Okay, hold on, but our souls are containers. And then the aliens want us to preserve the container because they take our souls, right? Like our souls are food or something? I don't know what happens after you crack a beer other than it goes into my mouth and I drink it.

But his theory was that, and funny enough, they actually gave this to Bob Lazar in a briefing. And Bob is so a nerd. He is a science nerd. God bless his heart. but he is so analytical and he's had to be on the defensive so he's really careful he read a briefing

that said that human beings were genetically altered like 46 times or something and that that's like even Jesus was like an alien basically a hybrid where they genetically alter you're like sure that's no one. It's believable now after everything we've seen in the last five years.

Yeah but what isn't believable like yeah okay. I mean. So I'm just saying like I don't speculate as a journalist, this is not. Right now, we are talking theory. Okay. So John Lear said, we are containers for souls.

And that aliens, like the grays, are cybernetic organisms. They're biologically printed, but they have an AI hive mind. And they are here to take care of their product, like we would at Kobe beef. We'd give them beer and massage them till the day we eat them. Okay.

So that was John Lear's theory that human beings were maturing like a fine wine, a soul through human experience, pain, love, fucking, all emotions would mature that soul, maybe learning, learning. Yes, yes, to evolve your soul. Right. So evolve, mature the soul. But John Lear said, but we're a product. We're a commodity to a higher. intelligence than the Grays. That's what he said. And I started laughing my ass off when he told me that, right? Because it was just like, you know, 15 years ago, I'm like laughing my ass off.

What the fuck is this guy talking about? Lazard did read in a briefing memo that he was given a whole bunch, a whole stack. And he doesn't know what is misinformation to see if he goes and leaks it. So like, why would they tell a guy coming to work on a propulsion system that fucking Jesus was a hybrid and that the gray's, call us containers and we call the gray's kids the kids because they're short like it doesn't make any sense they would show them that so we think it's disinformation of what they call passage material yeah so that's john lear's theory that you asked for did that answer your question yes okay well then that would

give the grays a whole lot of power over us and from what i've been told the grays are not like that intelligent they're just like soldiers i never met one i never meant one either so i have friends that have like legitimately documented by tons of other witnesses there's two females shout out to lisel and salma aerial school there was a landing oh yeah the aerial school phenomenon i've seen that you at that's documentary there's a few documentaries there was a landing of a craft at a school with about you know i think 60 90 kids south africa in the 90s yeah and um the thing is i heard about the story and famously john mac from harvard who is head of psychology psychiatrys whatever he went out there with the BBC

and they did interviews with the kids and I see these little faces of these cute little kids a very diverse school, white kids, black kids, the whole thing. It wasn't just like, you know, it was every kind of person including teachers. Now the teachers at first said we didn't see him, nothing to see here and move on. Imagine a school and the BBC comes with John,

motherfucking Matt from Harvard. You're like, whoa. But here's what happened. I see these faces of these kids and kids tell it like they saw it. Like when you're in that setting with an authority figure asking you, you don't coordinate amongst 60 to 90 kids the same narrative. You don't draw the same picture. You just don't do that. And there's John Mack and I'm a kid and I'm watching these kids.

Flash forward. Liesel. She meets me in Oregon. Salma, they were the closest to the aliens. They call them aliens. They grays. They had almond-shaped eyes, big heads, and here's what people don't know. When they were standing in front of this being,

Salma, or I think it was Liesel said to me, in my mind was being projected the destruction of Earth. Hurry up. And she said the environment. And she says, I got the message, and a lot of the kids did, that we're going to hurt ourselves and that we should protect Earth because it's special. And then she said she had to like break out of that, Lisa and Salma, break out of that, Lisa said.

And all of a sudden it just all went back. Like the sound was back, everything was back. And they left, ran away or, you know, kids. the thing is I asked her I said one what did they want you to do and are you doing it and she goes and she looks at me

because it's the first time she had publicly spoken and she goes I think I'm doing it right now oh wow I'm getting goosebumps I think I'm doing it right now to tell people

but my brain I have to be on guard all the time because in my life I'm thinking in my head are they lying to her right so so so i i wonder messengers of deception is an amazing book by jacques valet oh i know jac i don't know i'm personally but i yeah so french shout out to jacques valet he is he is a good friend i love him with all of my heart and he is a pioneer of deep thinking on this complex mosaic this rubics cube that we

call the ufo phenomenon which is much deeper than hard physical craft that fly through the sky much deeper. I can tell you that because I am the fucking repository of crazy. Every single fucking person on planner, I made myself accessible. I got an email, I got a phone number. I will take any call. I will talk with you. I don't know if you don't, just don't hurt me, protect me. I'll listen to you. And I love that. I can't answer everything. It's just a bombardment. Wait, but can I ask you a question? So that, that, what you're talking about. Aerial school. Yeah, look it up because they actually have footage of these children being interviewed by a renowned psychologist.

And it's conclusive evidence that like they all saw the same thing. The head of Harvard psychology with the BBC. It's nuts. Lisa and Salma shout the fuck out to you. You are heroes of mine too. That's so cool. Aliens. They saw aliens and the aliens projected things into their heads to protect the earth.

But I'm skeptical person. I don't believe you or an alien. You have to show me, not tell me. So when the aliens say that shit to them, I'd be like, are you fucking liars? Yeah, that's true. Okay, but what about the orbs? What do you think I'm seeing in the sky? Tell me what you think.

I'm playing just a tip right now with you because I know you want to talk about orbs. Let's talk about them. And you're going to talk about psionics and you want to talk about when you see with your mind and you connect. And other people stand by, you can't see them. No, no, they can see them. Okay, but sometimes they can't because sometimes I don't tell I look at the footage. Oh. So I got a story for you.

I've never told it. Oh, cool. Fuck, here we go. Jesus Christ. Hey. My God, I'm going to pee my pants. Okay, check it out. Go ahead, buddy.

Just did. Yeah. Actually, I did that one time in second grade. Piano teacher was the daughter of somebody from the Grateful Dead, and she told me I couldn't pee in class. I'm so defiant. This might define me. I'm so defiant. I go, okay.

And I pissed myself. Don't pee yourself today. No, and then. And then what happened was they had to give me new pants. It took me out of school. My mom was so mad at the teacher because she didn't let me go the bathroom. Second grade, what the fuck was her name? It was at Franklin School.

Anyway, so I'm not going to pee my pants. That would be a great clip for you though. So I'll pee your pants. Okay, check it out. Go ahead, buddy. Which is because I'm drinking beer. I know. Okay.

I'm going to tell you a story because I thought about it. Okay. When I saw your podcast where you talked about your experience, I didn't know you had one. You were with Duncan when you had it? No, I've had multiple. You talk with Duncan and told him. Yes. Okay, so I just saw that.

That clip, yeah. And I was like, and I'm like, I'm fucking going to Austin. And then boom, your producer hits me. And I'm like, I am free, baby. Let's do this. So bear with me because I want you to hear this story. I've never told it. Okay.

Not like this. I saw something in the sky and it looked like a silver surfer, like from a cartoon. And naively, and I don't know what year it is, but everybody can go look at the video. It's probably one of the first videos I ever put on YouTube. And I asked people, what is this? Like you can see, I'm just asking, what is this? I'm not saying, that's a UFO.

I'm like, what is it? Immediately that night, Bill Nye, the science guy, goes on television and says, oh, you know, they probably superimposed brine shrimp onto the film. I go to Google, what the fuck is a brine shrimp? Sea monkey. Motherfucker said I put sea monkeys in the footage? That's not science. I was like, I was so confused.

I thought he was a science guy. I called the news station. I go, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's my footage, and I don't know how to superimpose dick. And they ignored me. And I thought, what the fuck, how does this work? So I went deep dive on mySpace. And I started to connect to people on MySpace

and just trying to figure out, I think it was MySpace or Facebook or something, it was like little groups, you know. And I was like, did anybody else film this? famously, TMZ had some basketball player that filmed it. I found five other people. So now I had six or seven, if you include mine, angles of observation. So I thought, I'm gonna fucking figure this out.

I did. Then I got a seventh piece of footage. And it was the head GoPro or something camera on this Red Bull skydiver with eridium flares on his ankle. that was going like the silver surfer over Santa Monica. And I go, yes, I solved a UFO case. I emailed all these UFO groups.

Like, I solved the case, guys, I solved the case. Nobody wanted to take it. Because UFO people want UFOs. They don't want solved cases, right? That's boring. So I was like, what is this all about? I've been interested since a kid. And nobody, like, I solved a case.

So that was kind of my first UFO unidentified sighting. was something I solved. I got a YouTube message that says, meet me at this time, at this place, at this parking lot on the rooftop, or no, he said somewhere else, this time, this place. And I'll show you.

All you got to do is be grateful and there's a practice you can do. And you'll see him. And I turn to my girlfriend, who is now my wife, right? and I go this fine crazy guy wants me to meet him in Santa Monica

and I don't nobody knows me I don't know anybody I was doing art I was an artist at the time after martial athletics it was an artist accidentally and she goes you know you're gonna go oh shit so I immediately wrote him back and said I'll meet you

give me your number give me his number I changed the location and time on him five times just so I wasn't getting fooled like he knew there was a balloon that was going to go weather balloon or something like that so I'm already thinking like defensively right so I want to know the truth finally we get up to I took him in my car and delayed delayed he has all these cameras he's a homeless guy by the way he had a cell phone number one thing they all do you got to but back then this is back then this is like probably the first iPhone where you can look at the video to see

the year but it was like I was shocked I was like, self-phones, the fuck. But, like, he was in a home at that point, right? But he hit, like, a halfway house kind of thing. But real homeless guy, I love him with all of my heart. But he's got, like, you know, he's had a rough life. So you got a guy who's had a rough life who's homeless, who's going to show UFOs,

and spent whatever money he got on this fucking camera and tripod. So I was filming him. I'm literally filming him. I have this footage. It's like, Michael didn't put it in the movie. I'm filming the guy, and he's doing some summoning thing. First time I ever heard about this. So imagine this is, I'm going to get the year wrong.

Whatever year it was, it was really early on. Look at the video. And all of a sudden he goes, there, there. And you see me all skeptical, be like, okay, okay, buddy. And I come into frame, I'll give you this footage for your show. It's never been aired, I don't think. Oh, thank you. It's a cool little clip.

But I'm giving you context so we could air it, right? So what happens is I'm like, okay, You can see on my face, I'm like an artist wearing a fedora and shit. You know, I'm like, I'll go, got, buddy. I go next to him. My eyes at that time were a little bit better. I was like, looking, I can't see anything, but I'm looking right where he's looking. He's pointing.

And he's going like, Yahweh, Yahweh. He had a religious belief, right? Which I didn't. Holy shit. I saw something that day that previously I had never seen before. And they were fast movers. They were orbs. Yeah.

So I don't catch them on the film. I capture accidentally because I was filming him. My reaction, which is stunned. So like you, that was the first time I'd ever seen anything I couldn't explain. I could not explain this. That started this thing for a couple years or a few years, quietly. I'd meet them at the VA, whatever. I have dozens of things.

and dozens of times when he said, I'm gonna summon and you're gonna see something in the fucking sky. And I have a Canon 5D Mark 2. It's like a fucking shitty camera. I was good at the time. So you don't like, it's not like high definition, zoom in like you got now.

But he was fucking right. And it never took more than three minutes for something to show up. So I started telling my super educated friend from Harvard that I've known since three years old. and then Michael Shane's side, this writer who's like, you know, my friend has known me forever

and, you know, we'll call bullshit on me. And he just laughed his ass out of me. He's like, you fucking falling a homeless guy, fucking looking at UFOs, you fucking cook. You know, that was his attitude. Yeah. Let me tell you how this ends. So I kept showing footage to my friends.

I'm like, look, dude, there's something there, man. I don't know what it is. Don't really fun care, but at the same time, it's fucking weird, right? They mocked me and Asimachus Pagida. a.k.a. Alpha, my Greek friends. These guys are really educated. They studied things like classics and, you know, they're smoddy pants,

right? Way smarter than me. Not street smart, but smarter than me otherwise. And one day, I'm filming with John Lear. And my, like now, my phone is on silent. I had this compulsion while I'm filming, which I also have on camera. And I'm like, John, hold on a second.

In the middle of filming, I just had this feeling. And I picked up my phone, and it's Mikey and I have it recorded. I open it up. I go, hold on, John. Mikey, what's up, man? And he goes, um, um,

so, you know that thing you told me about? He goes, I went outside, put myself in a state of gratitude and prayer. And he goes, and I am seeing orbs in the sky.

And then I hear in the background, these girls walk by. What is that? They said to him. What is that? He goes, I, I don't know. I'm on the friend with my,

I'm on the phone with my friend Jeremy. I don't know. And I go, Mikey, John Lear is here. You know, John Lear, the UFO nut you were talking about? And John goes, Mikey, tell them to come visit John Lear in Las Vegas, Nevada. They know where I live. Motherfucker stands up and his legs are all black and fucked up from all his illness. And I see him hobble to the door, open the door, all filming, all filming.

Look up out the sky. come back in, sit down and go, Mikey, it's a no show. They didn't come here, but that's okay. Thanks for letting us know. And I sit there thinking, I have fallen down the rabbit hole. And there's fucking no hope.

And so all of that happened. That was my first experience to the possibility that consciousness is related to your ability to perceive. And I want to say that very specifically, your ability to perceive what is always there. John Lear used to say, Jeremy, if your eyes could see,

the sky would be black from how many UFOs are up above you. And I was like, dude, you fucking crazy, right? So that's the first time, I do a good John Lear impression. The first time that I thought, A, John Lear believes what he's telling me. He got up in pain to go look out

because he thought Mikey was going to send the UFOs there. Yeah. And Mikey said it. He said, go to see John Lairn in Las Vegas, Nevada. I will give you that footage too. It's crazy little clip. But all it shows is that John Lear believed it. I was not a believer in that, but I've seen that happen.

There is a connection between human consciousness and what we call UFOs. Always has been, always been reported, but don't get trapped. And let me explain that. I think it's really important. That is a vulnerability. At some point, if you have an extraordinary experience, the fish got to get bigger. Your mind has to make it bigger. If you want something bigger, tell them to come closer.

That's what always bothers me to this summer thing. Tell them to come closer. If you have this psychic connection and they want to, and it's real, tell them to come closer so you can, like, talk with them. That's what I would do. but I'm kind of like kryptonite to the unexplained because I have to be as a journalist, right? So like I'm always the guy inside

going to get the night vision goggles for my friends that are out in the desert me in Pioneer Town. I'm like, I'm gonna give you the coolest thing you see 100,000 times more stars, hold on, I'll be right back. I go in, they all start screaming. Close friends of mine, scientists who didn't believe shit, saw stuff. By the time I get out with the night vision,

you missed it, motherfucker. Yeah. That was always me. It was always me. So you're lucky. You're fortunate, actually. Luck is like opportunity and your ability to grasp that opportunity. But you're lucky when you're born.

You're fortunate. There's a difference in that word. Look it up. The point being that you saw something that expanded your concept of what it means to be human. that is fortunate because there is a larger world out there. The ancient Greeks used to think that stars were pecking marks

from what are they called, not tweety birds of hummingbirds. They used to believe hummingbirds made the stars by pecking the firm of it. But now the world is so much bigger, we realize there's galaxies and shit. So you experience that.

Don't ever let that leave you. There's something bigger. There's something greater. Right? Definitely. But you're being played. Why? By our government.

You think so? I know so. Okay. Then tell me how I'm being played. The psionics movement is a government-controlled movement. I've really never talked about this publicly, but I know that to be true. Not that these guys didn't have experiences, not that there isn't a connection to consciousness in UAP, but I told you at the beginning that they're trying to shape the emerging UAP narrative.

That is a quote in the CIA document. The Sionics movement as it's presented to you by intelligence agents is to shape the narrative. It's not that it's untrue, all of it. Some of it is untrue. And I think if I had those guys sitting with me right here, they'd want to admit it because they're patriots and they're probably good humans.

So keep your mind open. Yes. Don't let the marvel spill out. Hold on. But then how are they, how is it that if I go outside anywhere in the world and I literally just look up and I like what your crazy homeless friend was saying, you look up in gratitude, I do have to be on a certain emotional whatever frequency. You've noticed that? Yeah. Explain that. Okay. See, here's a difference. Here's what I think the, okay, I'm so glad you said that. I think this is where worlds collide. This is where. This is where.

where we need to have the orb discussion meets like the journalist covering the UAP. Let's go there. Yeah. There is a component to this stuff that is spiritual, that isn't just, I haven't seen spacecraft. I can't tell you that I've seen discs or ticktacks or any of that stuff. But like if I go out and if I have a, like what your friend was saying, a feeling of gratitude of a meditative state, if I'm not thinking. about my worldly bullshit, my problems.

I have to be in the right mind space. They show up. Okay. What? Don't say it to be like that. How would the government know that Christina P., the comedian in Austin, Texas, is thinking positive thoughts.

Oh, no, it's not our government putting craft in the air. Oh. They can't control that. Oh. No, I'm sorry, we had a miscommunication. Yeah, so how are they, what's the rub? The rub is that there is, a connection it appears as a journalist there is a connection it appears i can't deny it no matter how

allergic i am to it to consciousness and what we call ufos what you're experiencing to be able to perceive them the perception your words not mine right i believe that to be correct i can't prove it i believe it yeah i do too okay so our government is hyper aware of the connective tissue between consciousness and the perceived world. Equations are classified. So what you're seeing is the phenomenon, and that's what we call it now, right? It's popular because it's much bigger

than the spaceships, as we call them, the craft, UFOs. I believe. I'm pretty damn sure. You take that for whatever, bearded, tattooed, fucking accidental journalist, take that for whatever you think. So what you're seeing is the phenomenon

Our government can't hide that from me, can they? Because it's you, it's you out there If that's real and it's true And look, I'll be like your best worst friend Or your worst best friend Because you'll send me a video And you'll say, I just summoned these orbs And you'll send it to me

And I'll geospase, location, tag, all that shit And I will sometimes find That you have seen a distant airplane Oh for sure Starlink. For sure. That's fine. But sometimes there'll be nothing trackable on any tracker.

And there will be other characteristics as an example, which I've seen myself, instantaneous acceleration. Instantaneous acceleration. We don't have anything that can do that. So when you send me a video, I will eliminate. You just text me the video. I'll eliminate all the knowns. And if we have an unknown, then you saw a UFO, unidentified fucking object, okay?

Brass tax. Our government knows the jig is up. They were forced into that position. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there's like some altruistic thing with people in government. They're like ready to tell people, right? Yeah, it's not usually the case. Humans aren't like that.

So what you're seeing by how you're describing it to me is the real UFO phenomenon. Yeah. It's not like government craft they're putting up. Thank you. Final.

It's not like this reverse. It's not like that. They're retarded. It's so discombobulated. Yeah. The whole orchestration of the intelligence agencies, there's no way.

But here's what I'm saying, Jeremy Corbell. Is that there are the weirdos of the world like me, the artists, the creatives. that can tap into this consciousness that allows us to see it.

Anybody can. Anybody can. But creative people, I've heard this a lot, like musicians, creative people, they tend to be seekers of like something. So you hear about it more from them,

but I'll tell you factually, if I go through 15 years of recorded phone calls. Of course, look, I've got, my fans have emailed me. I've seen the orbs, I've seen the orbs. Engineers call me from nuclear programs. they never believed in UFOs. It was like a car crash.

So you don't need to be there summoning. No, no. For some people, it's like a car crash. It just happens to them and it injures them because they see something their mind can never erase. Oh, I see what you're saying. So if you see it before you're kind of ready to see it, maybe it'll break you.

It's just people not trying is what I'm saying. So there's people that don't try. So you want a concrete example? What of trying? Of people not trying and seeing one? Sure. Okay, I don't know where you want to go. No, no, no.

I want to talk about... Okay, so hold on. Let's back it up. Go wherever you want to go. Okay, so you think what I am seeing are actual aliens. Is that what we're saying? I didn't say that. UAP, phenomenon.

Yeah, you're seeing UAP. You're seeing the real phenomenon, whatever that is, the phenomenon, which we call UFOs. Right. From your account to me, I assess. that you are not mistaking planes whenever you feel grateful

you know look at the sky when you're when you're feeling like fucking shit and it won't be there right so you're and I have witnesses my husband my children yeah anybody comes over to my fucking house

I'm like let's go outside and look at the orbs okay holy shit like I've invited people over and they they shit their fucking pants it's real I don't summon them by the way and I don't feel like

I don't I don't that's a word word So I'm so glad you said that. Can I break that down? Can I break that down? Can I break that down? I don't summon shit. No. That shit is there all the time.

I think so too. Because what happens? People start thinking they're a master summoner. And I've been with them and they get so depressed that when I'm there that they don't see them, that they say, well, you know, you're investigative mind. It stopped them from coming. Bitch, I've been with a lot of people that saw them. They think they're summoning them. They are not.

All they're doing is removing the. fucking blinders off of their eyes and they are fucking always there. That's what it is. We call them the watchers. You know, in some, in intelligence circles, I heard that. They're always there. They're always there. However, they do interact.

And let me give you concrete proof. To me, not to you. This will be a story to you. I was so skeptical that I was like with a bunch of people, like, tell them to do shit then. Tell them to do something. Yeah. And they're like flash.

Motherfucker flashed. I'm like, that was pretty cool. I'm like, telling him to move left. Motherfucking move left. Just asked it. Will you please? Like, I said, tell it to circle around the other one. Fucking circle around the other one.

So I'm sitting here shitting my pants, not just pissing it. And I'm like trying to keep cool looking. Yeah. And I'm like, I said out loud. And be careful what do you say out loud. I've learned that in my life. Three times I said something or two times. for sure. I said something out loud and life was like, oh, we're participatory in this thing we call

reality. Check this out, bitch. And it was like, that's where I got sick and went to know. That's where my whole life changed. I asked the world, do you have anything other for me than the martial athletics and being a sense and teaching that and devoting my life to it? And it fucking answered me. Yeah, I know. It's fucked up. I said out loud. It's fucked up. I said out loud. We're being too to the street podcast. I said out loud, I will never doubt again if you perform this exact maneuver.

And I said it. The Harvard guy's there, Mikey and Alpha, the guy, Asimakis, Paggida. And motherfucker, the things we were seen in this guy did it. So, so I was like,

but I still doubt. Yeah. You know, I'll never doubt again. I didn't keep my promise. But that's the seat. So there is, and there lies, the difference of consciousness, I think. You nailed it with saying you don't summon. You're right.

No. Tell all the summoners. They don't fucking summon shit. They get these egos and they start religions based on it. All they had was an experience of the natural world and the fish gets bigger. You can't summon shit. You can't. They're there.

They're there. If this is true. And I think there is something to you being open. like you said. Fact. Being open, being not being like, fuck,

you can't go into it. Just be open to it. Just be open. Just be open, curious, um, and grateful. Yeah, what is that word means?

So like, so I fixate on words because I think they're weapons, right? So a state of, be grateful. Like, sure,

like we're grateful. Like, we're grateful. We can smoke a cigarette because it fucking is amazing. I can have a beer. I can hug my wife. I can sleep, you know, and get good rest.

Like, I think all you have to do is be open. Yeah. Yeah. People do all these things like there's protocols to summon. I don't buy that. All bullshit because I've seen different protocols all work. And I've also seen a lot of people get so drunk on having seen it that they literally think their profits. Oh, yeah.

And then every plane, every satellite. Yeah, becomes a thing. Every fucking hell. See, that's what I'm saying. So I also think there's something to who you are as a human. If you're humble or if you're like, you have an ego about it. And you think you're a prophet. Like they're not going to.

No, no. I don't think they give a fuck. No, I think they do, Jeremy. I think that they won't. No, because people with huge egos still get real captures of summoning. So I don't think egos are bad. Oh, that's interesting. I don't think having a large ego is bad if you're a large person.

Don't be a douchebag. Don't be a dick. But one sense, one of my jiu-jitsu teachers once told me when I was a kid, he said, I mean, he was like a fucking gnarly dude. I mean, like building a fucking black power army. Like the dude was gnarly. And I fucking got my knee snapped. And, you know, I got the shit beat out of me. and bit through my thumb down to the bone.

He was like a gnarly guy, but he did say something really wise. It taught me a lot what not to do, but also taught me what to do. And he said to me, he says, when you diminish your power to someone else to make them comfortable, you're doing them a disservice.

And I'm like, what do you mean? And he says, because they're uncomfortable, because they're upset or whatever the fuck it is, then you're not living by example. So he's not saying go be an egomaniac. What he's saying is don't. He goes, you're not bragging, you're confessing. He says, just be yourself.

But fully yourself. The impression that I get is you have to be fully yourself by allowing other people to do their thing. You do your thing. You're just a clear vessel. You're a clear line. So you're talking about when you're summoning or in life? Don't say summoning.

when I In both. You're right. You're right. When you're experiencing or when you're in life. In both. No.

So I think the tangent to, so since I have been seeing these orbs. It changed you. Yeah. Tell me how. It's an enlightenment. It's a very, it means that I,

I've had a lot of childhood trauma, a lot of stuff. And everybody who's listened to me for the last 20 years, I'm very open about my life. I've been in therapy. EMDR,

Prozac. Bap, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, blah, blah, I had cancer. Yeah.

I had cancer. Now I'm smoking again, which is great. What kind of cancer you have? I had breast cancer. Very rare kind, by the way, that like less than one percent of the population has two years. And I had such PTSD. My mom did too, by the way. Oh, it's horrific.

I'm fine now. But I had this bizarre kind that nobody knew about. It was like a rare form. And then I was in Boca Raton and I was broken with PTSD. I saw that in the news or something. You were in some trip with your husband and got stuck. We got stranded. And I saw Orbs in there too.

I was there. But before that, I was begging God, whoever, please help me with this PTSD. Right, whatever you call it. Yeah, I'm broken and I will not come back from this. This is too much suffering. Wow. Can't do it, God. And I'm not a religious person. I'm not whatever. And I just started, that's when I started seeing the orbs and meditating. Holy shit. I meditated. And guess what? They, they, they, whatever, this connection, this thing, this awakening, I've had a spiritual awakening where it's, um, It's broken down my past trauma. It's broken down bad memories, bad ways of being. By seeing these things? Not by seeing, but also by meditating every day.

I don't know how. I don't know why. Do you take like five minutes? I know. I can meditate for two hours. This morning I did for two hours. Do you sit alone? Yeah.

I sit in the dark for two hours and I get downloads. Do you try to do anything? Emotional downloads. No. You just sit there. I just fucking sit there. And I'm telling you. And I've worked through my 50 years of trauma.

I cry, I rage, I get angry, and then I get another inspiration, another thing. Maybe it's the subconscious mind. I don't care what it is, fist bump on whatever the fuck's going on with you. And now I'm at a point where like, I feel more integrated, as they say. Carl Jung would say you've integrated your shadows.

So I've been able to see my shadows feel them, because I didn't have feelings for many years or so traumatized. And this, whatever, since I've been seeing, orbs, I feel things. Okay, so is it since you've been seeing orbs that that changed your life, or is it that your life changed and then you looked up? Both in conjunction.

I've always been a seeker. I've studied philosophy in college. I've always been curious about the existence of reality. I never thought that what we have. Ontological, right? ontological proof. I went to Oxford. I studied every proof

for the existence of God for one year. Okay? So I've always been a seeker. Yes. So I've always been in therapy. I've always been working towards. And then the time I see the orbs from that point till now,

so last October until now, I've had a thorough fucking integration of my consciousness. Which makes you more... Vulnerable? Okay, but yeah, let me ask, I'm going to ask before you tell me... Go ahead.

Does it make... you more authentic? Yes. And I can't tolerate inauthentists. I never really could before. You can see it two seconds, right? And now I can smell it. I don't like it. I don't want to be near it. And so many things in my life have fallen away. Yes, good. Because of that. Now you're focused. Yeah. Because you know the path. And what your jiu-jitsu teacher is saying, that's the point where I just realized yesterday, actually. So I go, I walk in nature, I go to the park and I look at trees. That's part of meditation. Is You consider that meditation too? I'm sure.

It's how my fucking brain is. No. Okay, because I meditate all the time. Oh, you too? I never sit down anymore. I did that for like 30 years. Oh, yeah. All I do is I try to be tunnel vision present.

Yes. And for me, people are like, that's not meditation. You got to sit down and do these ohms and chance and I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, maybe. I'm like right now, all I try to do is be with you. Yeah. Look straight ahead and try to be present.

And to me, that's meditation. Is that right? how you understand it? Yes, and. So yes and. I'm going to yes and. That since I started seeing orbs, they, they, whatever, this thing,

I don't know. I got connected to my heart, if that makes sense. They literally, or whatever, this, I do know when I meditate to get in connection with my soul, with my feelings, I would start by putting my hand on my heart

just to feel something. I wasn't feeling anything. That's your protocol. You just go like that because you, need you're in your mind the words you use you're like my heart I'm not feeling so yeah see that's what I mean you can create anything that is meaningful to you and it has the intent that allows you to to do yes 100% okay yes and so the more connected I become to myself the more connected I've been to my

past my healing process the the more orbs I can see does that make sense I can go out into fucking camping with my kids and I see them There's some connection. What's my trap? It's a big trap. So I go out to a great dinner

and I try this fucking piece of sushi out of this world. Shout out to Itzakia in Ohio, California. This fucking sushi is the greatest in the one. The guy makes it with love the owner. He puts a piece in front of me

and I eat that and it is so good. What do I want to do? I want to share that with fucking everybody. Yeah. I'm telling you your trap. Are you ready? Yeah.

Okay. I want to share that with everybody. And I fucking tell them, there's this guy and you got to go to this fucking suit you so good. This fucking piece of fish. That's fucking thinking. And I get passionate. I'm like, it's the fucking best thing.

You got to fucking try it. I'm going to take you. I'm going to go pick you up right now. They try it. And they're like, oh, that's great. I go, wait. And they're like, oh, I hate fish. I'm like, what did you fucking tell me?

So here's your trap. This is what I say at the end of the movie. UFOs are a symbol they're a sign they're for you in my experience this level of it we're talking about not the government level

but for you your trap is that when something changes you which you said it did then you want to share that so you're going to tell people hey come look at this and you're going to say

it's so cool and the trap is you're going to feel bad when they don't have the same experience as you. It will happen, don't worry. No, I've already shown people and they're like, it's a no show. Great, no, they see them and then they go, cool, what time is the movie?

Like, they don't give a shit and it doesn't affect them. So you're cool with that. Yeah, for sure. As a person to person, like, I've seen people get destroyed because their whole world changed when they were able to understand that this is real, whatever this is. And then they go into like,

like a PTSD. TSD shock that like nobody cares and they. No. Okay, so you understand that's for you what you saw? Yes, well, here's the thing too. And I feel like that's just the laser light show like orbs and stuff and phenomenon or whatever the fuck you see. That's just the externals, the fun, the fireworks, the truth of it. The shiny thing.

Yeah, like the real stuff is the internal healing. If you get to connect, if you get this spiritual thing, that's the real gold that I want to share with people. And also I want to share that without showing them your foes. You share that by being you every day after that. Of course. Yes, baby. Oh, that's why I'm here talking to you. Yes. But that's why I want to talk to you too because I want to, if you see these things in the sky, I just don't want the government narrative of like. Yeah, be careful.

This is war. Right. We got to go to war with these things. I don't think that everything in the sky is inherently evil. So you're seeing that. So I don't read media because my mom will. screenshot anything negative and send it to me. I don't need to read it.

So what you're telling me and I just want to make sure is the predominant narrative in popular culture right now that they're coming and we've got to prepare and be ready and be worried. Is that what you're saying?

I think what I've observed as a child of the Cold War, you and I are about the same age. I'm 49. Yeah, I'm 49 too. And I think we're raised in the Cold War narrative of, we've also watched all the movies, you know, close encounters. And like, you're led to believe that what else is out there is inherently going to, it's going to

abduct you, you're going to wake up and your butt's going to be bleeding. This is a fucking, this is gnarly, this is bad, you've got to prevent against knowing these things. And I'm like, I just don't think that's a very intelligent way to go about looking at the unknown. We, don't know. I don't know. I can't tell you. Maybe there is no correlation between me seeing stuff in the sky and having an emotional healing. I don't know. Maybe there isn't. You're right. But I think for us immediately, oh good, okay, so then we agree on that. But I don't understand chicken and egg yet with you and we're going to get to that because I'm going to interview you in a second. Oh, shit. But I just don't, I just hate the narrative of like weapons and we, you know,

this is bullshit. But you hate the narrative because you don't like weapons or do you? You hate the narrative because you think it's a disservice humanity. Exactly. I don't want the public inherently thinking that because it's unknown, it's bad, and we have to go to war over it. We have to nuke somebody over it. That's the thing. So we're totally aligned, but there's a lot of nuance. And depending on what you want to talk about and your audience wants to hear, I would love to break down the nuance of the messaging from our government.

If you want, that's too much. I don't want to hear it. Can I tell you? I feel like I didn't. Fuck, they're messaging. It's like, it's so much information and disinformation and bullshit. It's like, oh, fuck, who cares what? Okay.

That's what I'm saying, too. I'm going to simsify it. Okay, go ahead. I'm going to simsify it, which is just, you cannot trust anybody that isn't independent telling you shit. Obvious. The reason the government uses emissaries to tell you, like a spaceship might be coming, is what they're saying, you know, sometimes that we have to prepare is because in the good sense,

that's their fucking job is to protect you. That's true. They can't get out of their mind, the weaponization. The last 70, fucking 80, 90 years. So I'm going to give them an out. I'm going to give them an out. Yeah, yeah. However, reality, reality.

These are so advanced. these craft. I don't know if the beings are. I might be fucking retards who stole the piece from their parents. But like the craft are so advanced.

It, they wanted to hurt us. They'd hurt us to any given. That's what I said. When Duncan was here, they could have wiped us out. Fucking Duncan,

why isn't he here? A million year. I know, he's a, Duncan. Duncan, I've texted you three fucking times and I gave you a goddamn,

Duncan. God damn it. If you don't meet me at 3.50, today at my hotel for me to take you to Willie Wonka's magical emporium

of fantasy. Fuck you. fuck you and you have to make it up wow that too um okay where are we sorry where are you where do you where do i want to go i mean look i just think i agree with there's more to this i think that we're in a highly materialistic age where we have been told how to think how to feel um and there look spirituality and now all these things have been human consciousness is also the great mystery we don't know shit about. And I think the atomic model that we're on is fucking bullshit too.

And we're about to enter this new era of understanding consciousness and how it works. But that's the thing is like, let's fucking do it. Come on. What's the hold on? What's my hope? Let's fucking go. Let's force it. Let's use people's desire to force

scientific study, to force experiments. Let's focus on human consciousness because there's something beautiful that is intangible to me where our consciousness has a direct interplay with physical reality. I've experienced that. Look, the secret. Remember that thing that came out in 2000? Yeah, yes. It felt like a cult though. Really? Because I'm sitting here now in a fucking studio. This is the house that farts built because I was into the secret and manifesting and using your mind to create. That's what I'm saying. I created a stupid career telling

jokes about my tits through just believing and going. So consciousness is very powerful. Okay, so that's real. But then what if I've got friends that are super sick and they have incurable diseases and everybody's telling them, oh, do this the secret, do this, meditate, do this. And then what happens is they still got cancer. Of course. They still fucking die. And so what I'm asking you is, you know, how do you square that circle? You're like, so I agree with you. My whole life. I'm talking about material success. I'm not talking about health. And I'm talking about like manifesting. I don't know. I don't know that one. My mom told me when she had cancer really bad that she got all the treatments. She lost her hair. She did all this when I was a kid. I was like 13. And she says,

I visualized like snow just coming over, going all over my body, just ripping out the cancer, getting it gone. Now, we don't know. Was it the chemotherapy? Was it the snow? I don't know. But it can't hurt. Can't hurt.

To visualize, like you do in the material success of your life. Of course. To visualize a healthy body. Yeah, what's in your mind is, is very powerful. It is the worst virus ain't fucking COVID. The worst virus is a fucking douchebag putting negativity on. You have to guard your mind, like, more than you need to guard your physical body. Of course.

So we're talking the same. We're just meeting for the first time at prison. I know. I can do that, too. Wait, hold on. So do you think that have you heard stories where? I mean, burp. Oh, yeah, you can rip.

Get, let's fucking rip, dude. Have you heard stories like mine where people see orbs and then they become awakened or something? Christina. What? I don't know. I'm new to this. I've only talked to the blood cells. Have I heard?

I know. Stories like yours. If I had a penny, honey. So check it up. But to give you a positive feedback here, my emails are like a Vegas slot machine at midnight. I know. No, no, in a good way.

From all around the world, from every socioeconomic class of human being, from every country, from every educational background, military, non-military, kids that like write me they're doing a class paper because they saw something at 13. You're asking me, have I ever heard a story like yours?

It is a worldwide experience. We just don't talk about it or share it because we've been told you ain't wrapped so tight. The awakening part though, the integration, the emotional, spiritual. All these words you use, people, I hear them all the time, I don't relate to that. What is the awakening? What is the spiritual? I am awake.

I am alive. Is the world waking up? But that's the bridge between guys like you and guys like me. the spiritual the emotional artists and like the do you know that's what I'm saying we're the bridge we're creating the bridge

maybe we are I don't know talking feels good but here's the deal I think we are all awake no no no let me make my argument let me make my argument okay I believe in humanity we are spectacular creatures

we have so much pain because by the way life has pain yes as you know and we were born awake we are awake what we're doing is we're numbing ourselves we're awake all you got to do is stop numbing yourself be okay with pain yeah be okay with fear be okay with being vulnerable be okay yes saying what you mean mean what you say though don't fuck around life is short don't fuck around yes you got some that you have a riff with, call them. If they don't pick up, that's on them. You've tried.

Yes. Tell them. I'm just saying we're, I don't like these delineations because what happens, you say spiritual. Oh, he's not spiritual. I know you're not saying that, but I'm saying, yeah, yeah, like fuck that. You're a human being, you're alive there. It's like, it's like a racist spiritual thing.

You're like, awake. I'm a spiritual racist. No, no, no, no. Oh my God, fuck it. Now you're fucking taking the piss out of me. No, no, I know. But I'm just saying, I'm trying to make a point because I've felt this so long,

which is that, so, you know, it's so 1950s to be a racist, you've got to be a real, to be a racist, right? So here's the deal. We're human beings. I think we're on a rock that's spinning, I think. Never gone up. I haven't been invited up yet.

This space to check it out. When people say words like awakening and this sort of thing, it isolates a certain population. People they feel, well, maybe I'm not awake. Fuck that. Everybody's awake. We all have pain.

This is my personal choice. So I'm trying to be inclusive in saying, motherfuckers, nut up, and stop being a bitch and stop hiding what you're really thinking. Just fucking say it. And if people, your friends, don't like it, then you don't got to be friends with them no more.

Like you said, you called the herd. You didn't say those words, but with your fucking friends. Yeah. So I'm sorry. That's just, I've been feeling that a lot lately. We are all in this together.

Fuck off. Yeah. Right. I think you're, I think what you're saying is absolutely right. I don't know that. I think there's a process. Everybody is capable of feeling and experiencing what I did.

I'm not saying I'm special. Every human. Every human's birth right is to become integrated or a way to end. Yes. You're, you're, it is a divine right that you should be happy, that you should do it.

your jiu-jitsu teacher was saying, like fully experience your being or whatever it is to be fully yourself without encroaching on the other. They diminish what your experience to make someone else comfortable. Tell them about your fucking orbs. And you did, you went on a worldwide podcast.

But I mean, so you're doing it, but I'm saying, you know, speak up. Everybody speak up. If you've had a UFO, UAP experience, speak up. You don't gotta talk to me, just don't call me, call everybody else, just tell them. Don't be fanatical about it. Just tell them.

And if you, and if they, pick it up and consume it like the fish and they like the fucking sushi. They're on, they're on our team. And if not, no worries. Don't listen to me. Then fine, not in this lifetime. Next lifetime, you'll pick it up. But I think there's, I think what I think is happening is we all have consciousness, right?

Everybody's conscious to some extent. How much of it we can exercise through the feeling our feelings is what opens that consciousness. What you're saying. So a lot of us are actually unconscious in a sense of we're numbing. we're avoiding. We're every, most of us. Fear does that to me.

I become a, my wife says, okay, Jeremy, you're in robot mode. Of course. Dissociation. I dissociated for 34 years. I never been to a therapist

since, because I can't tell them, you know, I hear you have to be honest to a therapist. And if I've heard class, I can't tell them as a journey. So like I,

dude, I would love a therapist, but not a CIA therapist. No. You know what I mean? Somebody that would, anyway, so you're saying,

please continue your thought. Yeah, what I'm saying, saying is most of us are capable, we are all capable. Every human being is capable. Of experiencing and feeling. Of being authentic. What I have. Absolutely. I'm not special. I'm not different. I just sought it out. I'm a seeker. You sought it out. So, okay, so now you haven't answered my question. Sure. It's going to be a worm in my brain. Okay. And you got an answer or you don't know as an answer. Okay. Chicken or egg. Did your life change because you saw the orb?

Yes. Or did you see the orbs because your life changed? Both, both but more of the former. Okay, so hold on. My life was always, I've always, like I said, I've been a secret, but then I hit rock bottom, I see orbs. And I believe, now I believe that there's something bigger out there because I fucking have confirmation that the supernatural is real.

I mean, I walk, I couldn't sleep that night. I couldn't go back to living the life I lived because I had confirmation. How long ago? This is in October, last October. And Boca fucking Ritone, bitch. How did your husband react when you were like, babe, I saw some fucking orbs? And I think they're aliens.

So how are you doing? How did he react? He knows that I'm wacky and was always like, I believe you. I believe you. But did you want him to trust you? Oh, you wanted to see it. So I said, great.

We went back home. And on our rooftop here in Austin, I go, let me just say, see if it'll happen here and it did and he sat down and he goes, holy shit, it's like a fucking parade. I go, I know. And he's like, but it doesn't

affect him. They weren't in a straight line. No, no, they go all every which direction. He goes, it's a fucking parade to quote. What was his feelings? Not like mine. He was just like, that's fucking cool. I got to go do a fucking show. 100%. That's cool. And that's why I'm not so affected by it.

Like if you don't, it's not your time. Maybe you're not able to have maybe they tap into something that you're ready to get. Okay, but when you say it's not your time, you make people feel like they're lesser than you. No, no, I'm just trying to say what I've experienced for 15 years. So I'm, so I'm trying to make UFOs great again. I'm trying, I can't believe I just said that.

I am trying to be a witness to people as a journalist that I have heard tens of thousands of peoples whose lives have been transformed. Thank God. I'm now. I'm not crazy now. Well, I did not say that. I did not say that.

Well, you told me there's others. I'm just glad there's others. There definitely are others. But like, my wife can't give a fuck, buddy. There's a tip jar in our minds for, if I say the word you have foe. She doesn't give a fuck. She's like, ask me how you're doing? I go for 15 minutes because I'm in like interview mode.

And she's like, no, I just asked, did you feel the, dogs. You know what I mean? It's like like your husband. It's not that it's not his time. It just doesn't matter to him. He's, he's on his path. Yeah, he's doing his thing. It matter to you. It mattered to you. It mattered to me because I asked for it. But I also asked for it. I was broken. I had just gone. I had just experienced the most awful thing in the world. And I asked for it. And I think, and I asked for grace, whatever that is in religious terms. And I got that help. So, I don't fucking know. There's something about being so,

and this is, I don't know if that's a common denominator too and these people with the words. Yeah, a lot of times people are at a point where they let down their guard. Yes, that's what it is. And their boundary.

Yeah. That's what it is. It's the programmed societal ego mind that says, this is for weirdos. You're fucking weird. You can just knuckle, white knuckle through it.

Just shut up. Just get on with things. Which is a survival. thing we have to do. Yes. Yes. And it got me really far for many years. And then I cracked open emotionally. That happened to me. Yeah, right? And then you go, enough. I'm 50 years old. It's now or never. When will I be a fucking human being? I can't do this anymore. Now imagine what you can do now that you have focus and self-awareness and love in your heart. Yes. Power. That's amazing. If we can all get there, Yes.

In our own lives, the world would be a beautiful fucking place. And I think that's the point of these phenomena. I think that's a lot of this, don't you? I don't know. As a journalist, I don't know. But I feel that there's an opportunity for that. Yeah. Because I've just talked to too many moms, brothers, sisters, doctors,

lawyers, plumbers, carpenters, people from all over the world that tell me that they were changed. So that's why at the end of the movie, when I saw it, I was like, that's it, you got it, kid, Michael? I was like UFOs, because it was like this long talk. I'm making a fire. I know, I love it.

I love it. It was so good. I want to actually say one thing about the movie. It was so good. Check it out. What I said, if I recall, is that to me, I don't know if I said to me, but UFOs are just a symbol.

Yeah. There are an opportunity. It's like to remind you. So I'm agreeing with you. I think that they pose an opportunity to be reminded of the mystery of what it means to be born, what it means to live your life.

And if we stop thinking about ourselves, that we start thinking about others, and we start thinking about, like, other people, and we start thinking about what it means to be human, then we realize that we need to live by example. And if we live by example, that is the greatest lesson you could ever give anybody you care about

is to live what you say with your mouth. And I think that's what UFOs. I think that's what UFOs are other than technological advanced craft, the government has hidden from you. That too. And the CIA is Africa. after everybody that was trying to speak for it

and they brought up to Whistblowers for treason and they fucking tried to fuck me and fuck George and control us and control our mouths and fuck you for not wanting the world to know this beautiful, beautiful truth. And sure, maybe there's something scary. Maybe we're a commodity.

Maybe it's too big a secret. Don't kick a sleeping dog, Jeremy. You know what? Fuck you. You're not my daddy. I never asked you to be the fucking barrier between me and the natural world. You can suck a dick. Yes.

Yeah, and I think that's what... Good job, Jeremy Corbell. He's like the booth people club. Yeah, he makes me feel good. Watch out praise and blame is all the same. All of a sudden gets in my head that you like that. Oh, fuck that. Don't get eye on your own supply.

Oh, dude, come on. What kind of drug dealer are you if you don't? You've got to test it before you sell it anyway. No, but I think you're right. Anyway, that was a beautiful way to end this show. I think that you said there's nothing more to say. after that. You guys watch Sleeping Dog. How do people watch it? Yeah, great question with their eyes. No, where can they see it? Where can see it? Like in their room at home? Now I'm just like,

okay, okay, check it out. There is one thing I want to say about it because I haven't said this yet, but and it's important to me. They can watch Sleeping Dog, this kid, Michael Lozofsky made a film Sleeping Dog and it is about UFOs and it was to provoke the government. That was the reason. It was to show people the stress and pressure that I was put under by intelligence agencies, private corporations, and also what the whistleblowers have gone through. And you see that all. But what I want to say about the movie,

other than I let people in, because I thought it would be protective for me, that's what he convinced me. Because I don't want to live in fear, and I don't want to live under pressure, and I don't want to live in these secret things where I'm having to have secret meetings in fucking Congress.

I want this all to be. be out. Whatever it is, I want it to be out. I am just literally doing my best as a journalist with George. What I want to say about the movie is this. At the motherfucking end, I light a fire. Let's fucking light this shit up. There's a song that plays. And I just want to say thank you because I've never said this because the movie just came out. Watch it on Amazon, watch it on fucking Apple right now. I'm sure a streamer, if they have any wisdom, them, you know, we'll see they can make money on it and want to put it out. But right now, we just put it out, Amazon and Apple. Everybody can get it. At the end of the movie, there's a

song, and it's by a guy named Ben. Ben Schneider. People know him as Lord Huron. He is an amazing human being. He has this incredible wife. He has, I'll just say, offspring. I don't know how personal I want to get, but he essentially fought to allow me to include a song at the end of the movie and I'm going to butcher this but I believe it's life is strange yeah I believe is I tell you that I actually listened to it and I was like that's a really great song that's I hate everything mother fucking here on oh my god it was so touching I was like that's a really perfect song to end this movie on you just wait so so michael put that in because he became a fan because george Knapp was friends with ben and then George has been dragging me for 15

years to learn about music because I'm musically retarded. My wife says stunted, but I say retarded. I'm stunted. We're like that. We're going to go see Lord Huron on 6-2, June 2nd at the Santa Barbara Bowl. And I know I'm not supposed to say where I'm going to be in time series, but that's, I'm so excited. So that's what I wanted to say about the movie other than watch it and it's a very serious subject. It is funny. It looks like a horror movie. And there's this beautiful song. And it's by this guy, Ben, and I've never thanked him yet. So I'm publicly trying to thank that motherfucker. Thank you, Ben.

Because that song meant a lot to me. Well, I just want to thank you for all the work that you've done on all of this. And I think you're pushing humanity into its next iteration, very necessary. Don't blame me for that. We're out of the, we're getting out of the old 1950s mentality. We better because it's 2006 last I heard. Yeah, it's so fucking boring. And I think the public is ready to kids.

are ready. I don't think anybody is like, oh they're completely right. Are you kidding me? Who is freaked out? What are you talking about? Nobody's freaked out. Nobody cares. No. And in fact, it's inspiring. It's like the new, you know, when like atomic physics became a thing and all these people wanted to be nerds and study atomic physics. We need more Americans, you know, studying the cutting, bleeding edge stuff. Yeah. And I think UAP should be in every high school. Just the known facts. Like no concern. Just the known facts. Like what are the pilot reports say? What are we learning about? Right. What are we learning about now? That's so silly. do actually, we need to end on something because your podcast probably coming out soon.

For the first time in human history, a president has, I'm not a political person, but first time in human history, a president said, release the files. Okay. So what files? So they give us like a trove of them. There's more coming really soon, by the way, really soon. Sleeping Dog provokes, because I show eight videos that are military filmed. They have to release those eight, but there's 46 Congress to ask, I gave them the file names

and they publicly put it out on Twitter. Here are the file names. Those 46 videos better be released to the American public so that they can assess their value and validity. And I was promised by Congress

and they publicly put a photo up with the new director of Arrow and they said we are copacetic now bitch let's fucking go that was not their tweet but it so i want to end your podcast because it probably comes out soon june third what day is it how long is that i don't even know what year it is may are we in may it's 1500s is it may it's may it's may 21st so how long till june 3rd it's like two weeks from now okay so hey government you better release those 46 files.

They're coming out. Come hell or high water. And that's just the start. Then you need to tell people about reverse engineering and biologics and beings and autopsies and maybe even agreements. That's how I want to end this podcast with you. And I'm so glad we fucking find out of that. I love you.

Come back again. Let's do this soon. Every time I'm in Austin, I'm going to be bombing you be like. Hell yeah, I do. Why are you sending me so many videos of none you? I like. And Duncan, fuck you. I love you. I love you. Thank you so much, Jeremy. You're the best. Sleeping Dog, out now. Watch it. Okay, I love you. Bye, mommies. Your mom's house.

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