Your Transformation Station - 135. Mindset Variance: Why Some People Adapt Faster

Episode Date: February 27, 2024

Mindset variance explains why some people adapt, stay disciplined, and perform under pressure while others stall. In this episode, Greg Favazza speaks with Justin Groth, a natural bodybuilder who cuts through fitness industry hype by focusing on simplicity, consistency, and execution. The conversation explores supplementation fundamentals, compound training, and leadership parallels—showing why restraint and clarity often outperform optimization culture. Topics • mindset variance and adaptation • supplement simplicity • discipline vs hype • compound movement fundamentals • sustainable performance systems Outline (00:01) Fitness fundamentals (11:40) Compound movements and core strength (20:03) Performance, leadership, and adaptation (31:55) Coaching and app development PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: ⁠⁠https://www.ytsthepodcast.com⁠⁠ Apple Podcasts: ⁠⁠https://www.ytsthepodcast.com/apple⁠⁠ Spotify: ⁠⁠https://www.ytsthepodcast.com/spotify⁠⁠ RSS: ⁠⁠https://www.ytsthepodcast.com/rss⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠https://www.ytsthepodcast.com/youtube⁠⁠ SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Facebook: ⁠⁠https://www.ytsthepodcast.com/facebook⁠⁠ - Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.ytsthepodcast.com/instagram⁠⁠ - TikTok: ⁠⁠https://www.ytsthepodcast.com/tiktok⁠⁠ - Twitter: ⁠⁠https://www.ytsthepodcast.com/x⁠⁠ - Pinterest: ⁠⁠https://www.ytsthepodcast.com/pinterest⁠⁠ - Linkedin: ⁠⁠https://www.ytsthepodcast.com/linkedin⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So what are your thoughts about people, about everybody getting a participation trophy? Bro, you're out serious. All right. You're listening to a podcast that encourages you to embrace your vulnerabilities and authentic self. This is your transformation station. And this is your host, Greg Favaza. Hey. were you able to hear me at all?

I'm sorry? Were you able to hear me earlier? No. Why? I was just being my normal self. Cheers, if you don't have a protein shake, you should get one. I got a little energy drink. Fuck, yeah.

I got like three of them all over the place. Nice, nice. I just got done with the gym, so I was like, this is perfect timing. Like, I made it. And I'm not sweating as bad as I normally do because it's been consistent. Nice. Yeah. But, dude, so you've been a bodybuilder for how long?

How long you've been doing that? Fuck, man. Like, since 2008, I started and I competed shortly after that around 2010. No, 2009, man. I was lifting before that, but I started getting in a bodybuilding, like, the whole fucking gamut of things on 2008, you know? Yes. Okay. So this is how the show I kind of wanted to go down is this is all for me and everybody who's fitness fanatics.

And at the end, you can throw whatever the fuck you want to throw in there and that'll be awesome. Nice. Yes. Wonderful. So right now, like my workout routine, I'm doing twice a day. And the morning slash afternoon is kind of the same muscle group I'll do for about two weeks. and I start at like say 20 to 30% of high reps, low weight, four to five sets, and I'll just do the main muscle grooves, and then a little bit of cardio,

focus on just three machines, rowing this elliptical, and the stairs or the bike, I do intervals. And then on the evening, I go to the track and I just do 60-120s, and then in between, I'll do 20 sets, 20 reps of pushups, sit-ups, and air squats. And I'll do that for about three to five miles. Yeah. It's exhausted, dude. I am.

I'm right. Yeah. That was a lot. Yeah. That was my regiment when I was active duty. I maintained that lifestyle for like the majority, like, let's say, five years. straight and then it's it's been a while since I started doing that regimen again and I've been two and a half weeks going on three weeks strong and it's not the same as it was I'll tell you that

right now yeah right right well I mean at least you're active in doing something you know yes yes I got a I got a Muay Thai bag in my living room and that's I'm trying to incorporate that and it's just this thing that I'm doing called the the 24 four four 40 words. Just every 24 hours can change my life for 40 days up to my birthday. So any advice, supplements, like, I want everything. I don't want the bullshit. I want the best supplements. I want all of it. Everything for the competitive edge, you know? Yeah. You want the real, real shit? Yes. I'm looking for maintaining, like, what I'm doing.

but I don't want the bullshit where you can go look at Google and find it because I've tried every single supplement out there. If we go to my cabinet, it will blow you away. It's like a pharmacy of just everything. I'm not lying. I used to be like that, man. Hell yeah. I wanted to have the advantage. But see, I'm sure you read my bio.

I'm a natural bodybuilder, which means I've never taken drugs. I'm steroid free. And I competed that way. So I'm obviously very, I'm a huge advocate and I champion natural drug-free bodybuilding. But that's why I asked you, you want the real shit, you know. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. Like creatine, protein, whatever protein I need to buy because literally I can put weight on, like nobody's business.

But it takes double the work to do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay, so obviously you're speaking my, you're speaking my language now, bro. So I guess cream T monohydrate, obviously weight proteins, Zinc magnesium, D3, fish oil, you know, shit like that. Those are going to be like your staple. A good fish oil, too, not like this bullshit Kirkland brand.

I used to take that stuff too, man. But, you know, you really need a good, you need to do your research on fish oil. Phyllishtas has a good one called Flameout. That's a good one. But, you know, yeah, I mean, you're sticking to the basics, though, period, bro. and you putting into work ethic into your training and training with intention and purpose or else none of this is going to mean shit it's not going to compound or materialize into anything and you do it for a long fucking time you know the first thing you told me was your your whole gamut

of things and it was my first thought is that's overwhelming dude you know you're trying to like do a lot and if there's a lot of moving parts with your fitness and then as a trainer as a coach That's the number one thing I see people end up really going down in flames because of they try to do everything and or they try to do things very restrictive. It's one of the two. Very restricted with their diet, very restrictive with what they eat. Like they only eat X, Y, Z, and then that's nothing else. And then or they want to get their fucking hands on every piece of fucking fitness program. they're on the market.

Oh, yeah. And so, and then they get, they get drained because we're not robots, bro, we're human. So you're going to end up burning out and fizzling very,

very early on. Whereas if you adopt one type of program by somebody that you trust, because you seem like a program guy, you adopt one type of program with somebody that you trust that has the fucking results that speaks the language,

that lives the life, day in and day out, has been for lots of fucking, years, then you just, and by the way, is not a genetic phenom. Like, you can't go off of a genetic phenom because they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. They have gotten their body from doing anything and everything. Oh, no.

I know. They're genetic freaks. So you have to pay attention to that. That's very important. But follow that program through and through for at least three to four fucking months and adopt adhere to a diet model that you can structure in your life that you look forward to eating the foods with you stick within a caloric means that keeps you losing body fat regularly but very pragmatically and you just do that bro you just do those two things and it's it's like

I just again I've seen too many people do one of the two too restrictive or too fucking much and they end up going down in flames early on yes or they don't they don't they don't don't recover properly. Like I have a morning and evening routine where I incorporate my stretching, my meditation, and my reading and journaling. And that happens in the morning and sometimes at night. But at the night, like it's literally probably two days out of the main, out of seven days of the week where I get the night because I'm fucking burnt out by that time. And I sleep fantastic. And as you said, you've got to have a program. And yes, you're right. I'm using the program that the Army embedded into me through my senior leadership. I've maintained it. I had the results. It was

fantastic. And all I want is that I just went Sergeant Favaza back. Right now, we got, we got dad Gregory. Right. That's funny. Yeah, but how many years ago was that, dude? Shit, it was, say, four years ago. About four years. Oh, okay. It's fairly recent. Okay. So I had thought that, you know, if it was like 10, 15 years ago, this thing would be, you know, you're a different physiology now to some degree. And you need to do things differently, you know. Like, even if I start of bodybuilding, I don't respond the same as I did when I was in my early, early 20s to now 39. I don't respond the same. And you mentioned recovery. It's not so much recovery, dude. It's probably just mental capacity and mental bandwidth, one, which one has to be able

to do these sorts of things and know that this is again tomorrow the next day the next day the next day the next day anybody can do anything one fucking day or two days but to have you run this fucking marathon it's daunting if you're doing so many different things you have so many moving parts bro that's why you need to get back to basics keep a simple stupid and just stick to the basics man and run those so the fucking wheels fall off yes results. This is not fucking trickery here. You'll see the results, dude. So when we say keep it like basics, or like, what do you mean by that? And please help me understand with core engagement. I was a fat kid growing up. I never learned like core engagement at all. And that was something I had to learn in the military, the hard way, where it took a conscious effort. And now that I, I'm getting back into the groove, like I'm finally feeling my core engagement. engaged and it's insane because I try to do it when I was out. I'm like, why is it not working?

And it just, it doesn't make any sense. So for those that are listening that don't understand that or have an idea, but don't know when to apply it or not apply it, that would be awesome. Yeah, I think core is a major buzzword in the fitness industry, to be honest with you. I think people use it to scare people or fearmonger because they think if your core is not, Okay, what the fuck is core even mean? Okay, let's dissect core. Core is everything from your neck down to your ass, basically. Okay, it's like an apple core. Think of it like an apple core. Okay, you're everything from everything from the pelvis up to your neck, okay? So there's multiple muscles that are involved with the core. It's not just rectus abdominis and transverse abdominis. It's not those muscles. It's a lot of muscles. It's muscles of the spine. It's muscles of the upper back. It's

of the pelvic floor, it's all of those things. So when we understand core, what does that mean? Well, that's what that means. That's what core means. But a lot of these influencers will fearmonger and they'll fucking hold it to the, they'll make you think they're just talking about abs and seeing your abs in the kitchen and it's being fucking chiseled and everything. That's not what this means.

You develop core strength from doing basic compound movements. So if you predicate your training around Romanian deadlifts, lunges, squats, Shubs, military presses, chin-ups, bent over rows, chest presses, bench presses, etc. Push-ups. You won't help but build a fucking core. If you feel that your muscles are weak when you do a push-up and you're in that pipe position, well, that's just because you fucking haven't exercised that muscle in a long time and you're feeling it quivered.

I mean, it would be the same thing if I took. If I took, bro, if I took like three, if I took two months off of the gym and I went in and I did the fucking leg extension for as heavy as I could go for fucking six reps, do you think on the sixth rep, I'm fucking holding that shit, pause,

I'm controlling that weight? Dude, my legs are starting to quiver, dude, because I can't, I can't really hold that much weight. I haven't done this for so long. My muscles are resistant. responding appropriately. Your muscles are responding appropriately to the stimulus that it hasn't gone through in so many

fucking years. So just to understand that it's just that. It's just a weak muscle that has to regain its strength. Okay. There's no type of presence you should place on core. You should put a presence around the compound basic fundamental movements, do them with very strong technique and watch your core, or be a fucking stronger in the process, man.

That's beautiful. So every day I'm doing squats. Like, that's what we did for literally a year straight. And yes, I completely agree. But, I mean, deadless. Like, what if you're going to a fucking gym where all they have is these shitty Smith machines? I'm not knocking. Starts with the planet.

Yeah. So that's all they have. And then that's where you have to get creative. And, I mean, Romanian. No. anyway, I do them anyway. I fucking load up all the wheels that I can on that bar and I

deadlift the fuck out of it, dude. And guess what? It works fine. It works fine, bro. Here's the thing. Like, I can train like a fucking savage in a hotel gym with dumbbells up to 50 pounds

and a fucking one of those universal machines. Because it's all in my head, man. It's all how I perceive it. And I'm a work ethic fanatic, dude. I don't predicate my worth on just my body. I predicate off of my work ethic because I know a lot of motherfuckers don't have work ethic. They don't have,

they have this limiting belief that sets in when they get, when they're going gets really, really tough and their weight's super heavy and it's super uncomfortable. I don't have that, dude. I push through barriers and thresholds because I want to see what the fuck I'm made of. And so I love that shit. but I also like pain, man, and I've always liked pain. Maybe that's because I'm a little bit masochistic, but I like that shit.

Now, here's the thing. It is what you make of it, bro. You've heard that saying, it's going to be what you make of it. So if you go into Planet Fitness and you feel like you're restricted because you only have smooth machines, well, and that's how you're going to operate. My God. All right, you're right. So what I was thinking was technique.

I mean, you try to do a fucking deadlift on a. Smith machine, that feels like my technique is being hindered. Now, am I just being crazy or is that literally that's- Yeah, because if anything, it cleans up your technique, man, because it's on a fixed, it's on a fixed rail. So it's going to, if anything, that's going to clean up one's technique for sure. You can't fuck up that much, right? And, you know, but you, but you need to really understand that the gym is not going to make the person. The person makes the fucking gym, do like, I go into any fucking gin and my leading by example through my work ethic my body speaks for itself people already they look at what I'm doing they look to me because I'm that motherfucker I captivate your attention

when I'm training because I'm training for me though I'm only trained but the way that I train for me it's it's it's it's beyond what motherfuckers are doing around me and I'm I'm just taking sets to the absolute failures, the most failing point that I can. I'm taking my body to the most failing point that I can take because I want to see what I'm made of, dude. And because this is a war against me. But that's my behavior with my training. It's always been my behavior because I've never had an edge pharmacotically.

I've never had an edge with drugs, with steroids. So I've always had to work my fucking ass off harder than guys on GERD to get half the fucking gains. Yes. But that's the behavior that's been. imparted to me ever since I started competing. So now that's the behavior that I take into the gym the same, I do it the same way at 39 years old as I did when I was 22.

Oh, fuck yes. Dude, that's fantastic. Like, we need everybody to be talking like this. Like, how do we? Because they don't do it, bro. They can't talk to me this because they don't do this. I talk like this because I'm convinced and I'm convicted because I do, I actually run this shit.

I don't miss. I am that motherfucker, dude. You remind me of like a white Mr. T. Just literally just go in. I'll take it. You, fuck, yeah, dude. That is, that is, that is insane. So that's awesome.

So we got supplements, we got workout regimen. Like, what do you think of like somebody just doing the same workout every day for like a month straight? Like, what do you think about that? Yeah, they should do it longer than a month. They should do it for like three or four months. I've done the same workout every fucking day for over a year. Because the only, let me tell me say this. The only thing that changes is my weights, my rest period,

though my intensity will alter, will vary. So I might add in sets. I might I might add in repetitions. I might add load. I might take away rest time. I might add in days that I do a certain muscle group. I might do more frequently. The goal here is progressive overload.

That's the common denominator across the board if you want to change your body. You progressively overload. And it's multifaceted. You can do it all the different ways that I just illustrated. But the point is you must do it. Don't just go to the gym. Have no fucking intent behind your workout. Have no purpose.

God forbid have no structure. And just go get a workout in. you go in there if you're serious about your body you go in there and you train you don't just go workout you don't go catch a workout i don't know what the fuck that means dude i don't go catch workouts i fucking train because everything that i do when i go in the gym is all purpose driven it has intent behind it and tamp behind every contraction every set every rep all of it so i don't know what this bullshit is of go catch a workout that doesn't make any sense that i'd be lost if I went in the gym and I was just going to catch a workout.

Go work out. I don't know what that means, dude. So everybody needs, bro, everybody needs to have purpose behind their fucking mission, right? If their mission is to get a better body and stop looking like a bag of shit, then they better have purpose and intention behind what they do in the gym. What are your thoughts when you see people sitting on a machine and just like playing on their phone? Not fucking working out.

bro, I'm going to slap the shit out of you. That's what I think. They're like there for like 10 minutes. And I'm like, just get out of the way. What are you doing? Or they're trying to have a conversation and they're in the fucking middle of the gym. It's like just fucking move. Get out of the way.

I'll better you with that, bro. There's this guy I know that he's pretty in shape, man. And he's on TRT though. So he don't, he don't fucking count. He's on. He's on some G. some fucking tass so fucking him but he sits on the fucking bench and in between sets and he by the way he trains like a pussy but he sits between sets on the bench and he literally look he's his head is down

in his phone and he i don't know what he's looking at i remember talking to him one day like a year ago and he was talking about crypto shit and he was talking about crypto shit and he was talking how he was on doing crypto and he's a construction worker by the way and i thought is that i still think to this day is that what he's still doing like checking numbers or whatever on his phone he's on there for a long fucking time dude and i just i don't understand that clearly like to me he's not serious and anybody who does that's not serious that's not serious that's fine if you're not serious bro you can be not serious like i go to golf i go to the golfing range i'm not fucking serious about golf. I'll happy Gilmore

every single ball. I don't care. But there are people that take that sport seriously. And they look at me like, fuck, get off the green, man, you know? So I get it. I get it, dude. It's not important to you, but it's important to me, and I place the presence on what's important to me, and I

do what's important to me to the umpteenth power, bro. Do you think he's getting like a mental sweat in, you know, just like trying to just look at his phone? Like, I think he's trying to, Yeah, I think he's trying to escape his family. That's why I think he's ready.

From his girl and his kid. It's like, what do you got going on to the gym today? I got teeth, ears, and fingers today. Exactly. Exactly. Tomorrow's brain? Yeah. I'm going to work my neck, dude.

Fucking guy. Shit. Yeah, this took a turn, you know. What are some like physical and psychological challenges that people are facing that they're probably not even aware of that's holding them back and even stepping into the gym? Dude, I think that most people just aren't fed up enough with their shitty state of the way that they look, the way that they feel. And because they're not fed up enough, they don't do anything about it or they just do it half-ass or, you know, somebody's got to tell them to do it. And then when they do do it, it's only like for a couple of weeks. They don't have any fucking, there's no discipline back in these individuals.

They've never done anything worth anything in their life. So what's this going to be? How's this going to be any different? It's not. It's that type of attitude. You know, when you actually get so fucking fed up, that's when you change. It's like somebody who's poor as fuck on the streets. all they have to their name is a sleeping bag that they sleep in every night on the side of the road of a freeway.

If that person is able, meaning they have all their limbs, they're well-abled individual, they have all their mental faculties, they're not zapped from fucking years of drug abuse. These people can go out and get jobs. And if they're fed up enough, that's exactly what they'll do. So if you're in this position where you're so over fat, you're so unmotivated, fucking horrible sleep dude, shit libido. No girls pay attention to you. You don't have any fucking money.

You're not competent in any certain thing. You're definitely not confident. You don't have any kind of desire to be anything different. Well, then I can't help you and God can't even help you. You need to be in a position where you're so tired of this lifestyle that if you live another day in it, you're going to kill yourself. That's the driving impetus for

you to fucking change. You can't live in this hell another day. So, what are your thoughts about people, about everybody getting a participation trophy?

Bro, you're that serious. All right. Oh, man. I'll tell you one thing. When I have a child, if that kid doesn't come in first, he's fucking last.

He doesn't get shit. If you don't come in first, I don't want a second place trophy, third place trophy. All I want you to bring home the gold, if you don't bring home the gold, then don't bring home anything. And damn sure,

nobody should be getting just a trophy for participating. But that's how you instill competition within young men, dude. You don't instill it by saying, well, as long as you signed up, well, and you played, well, we'll give you a trophy. No, dude, you have to compete and you compete to do your best. If you win, great. But as long as you did your best, that's the take home. And I think that if more boys grew up this way, they wouldn't be such pussies to this day and so entitled.

They would have to earn their spot because they understand the value of earning. That's interesting. Do you think it's based off of the parents and what they see? Of course. Yeah, the children deem that as acceptable. thus it keeps repeating. Yeah, dude. They emulate the parents

and it starts in the household. So, I mean, look, if you got a beta male father, he's going to raise as a beta male son. Period. And I mean, and then also that beta male son's going to marry his fucking mother.

And that's not going to be a, that's not going to be a good situation. Oh, shit. No, we lost him. It's okay. We're going to keep rolling here. There he is. Oh, yes.

Look at that. Welcome back. Oh, bro. I'm so sorry, dude. No, you're good. You're good. We lost you. Yeah, somebody called me in,

um, anyway, hold on real quick. Yeah, somebody called me, bro. I'm so sorry, man.

No, you're good. It all stays in there. We're not editing anything out. Okay. Got you. It all stays. All right.

So, yeah, man. Um, yeah, and if that son marries his mother, man, he's just going to catch more hell, dude, because, and look, it's just going to perpetuate,

the theme is going to perpetuate itself down the line, dude. Some, I mean, and if that's the type of narrative that's displayed in the family, I mean, the one thing going for that kid is that he was raised in a nuclear household, right? Like, that's a good thing. But if his father was no type of hero to him, he wasn't strong, he didn't put him in his place, he didn't scold him when he fucked up. I mean, that's, you're basically raising a serial killer at that, point, bro. Yes. You need to tame men because men are supposed to be masculine. They're supposed to be

strong. They're supposed to be protected. They're supposed to stand up for what they believe in. They're supposed to hold their ground, et cetera. Yes. What's your definition of a leader and how does one illustrate their leadership authority in the workplace? A leader needs to be able to persuade people for the betterment of them. And he obviously needs to be the showcasing of what that looks like. So lead by example. He needs to emulate all facets of what makes a strong leader in his own life. He can't just out something and then do something else. And it needs to be, it needs to be very analogous with way back when who he was way back when. And that's not displayed by many men. I mean, many men can maybe learn something now regurgitate what they hear from Patrick Beck David or

Jordan Peterson on how to be a leader, but they don't actually have hard, substantiated proof to back what they're saying. They have to do something for a very long time, be an authority in their space, be obviously something of an inspiration so that people have anecdotal proof that this person is who he says he is. And then naturally, people follow suit. You don't, you don't have to, you don't have to call yourself a leader. You're coined a leader based off of what your merits are.

And what your merits are are exposed all over your physical representation and your history. Damn. That's beautiful. Shit, I was literally going to say something. And now, like, that's spot on. But I want to ask one more, just one more funny question here as far as, like, what do you think about New Year's resolutionist? Fuck them. I don't, I don't know.

I think that that's obviously something that people just use to. Look, dude, if you need a new year to start something that you should have started last month, three months, four months ago, I mean, there's no saving you. You're fucked. You need to, that doesn't show anything. You need to start this shit in fucking March, July. Like, it doesn't matter the day, dude. you need to do this now or yesterday and you need to do it for you and you need to do this steadily forever means you have to adopt a lifestyle over it and if you don't dude you can't just

trickle in and out of this sort of thing in in terms of being better physically mentally spiritually etc this is an ongoing evolutionary phase of your life that doesn't stop until you hit the casket you know what I mean like you you must follow this all the days of your I don't know why anybody wouldn't want to, dude, because being on this side right now and being the 0.1% of the world, I don't know how you'd want to be anything else. I don't know why you would want to wake up in the morning and be anything less than a 0.1%. One percent is too broad. One percent is too broad, dude. One percent, you're like 100 million people.

I don't want to be like 100 million motherfuckers. I want to or 800 million what there's eight billion people in the world do the math on that whatever that is I don't want to be that way I want to be 0.1% of the world but to be 0.1% you got to do a lot a lot more than 99.9% are willing to do dude I like that this is justin groth everybody now if I can leave you with the floor just and answer or say whatever you would like to say that I haven't got to ask you yet and how our can get in touch with you. Yo, man, we covered a lot of ground here. I think that was a really good conversation.

And, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to drown it out even further because I can't, I can't. We had a good back and forth, man. So I just leave it at that. You know, if your people want to get in touch with me, if they need anything like fitness, online coaching, mindset coaching, et cetera, you can hit my DMs. That's the best way you hold me. I'm in the process of building an app right now. That'll be public within a couple of weeks.

obviously not enough time to give your listeners that that handle yet or that way to get a hold of me through that app. So we'll just leave it at the DM for now. Justin Craig Groff on Instagram, no underscores, no spaces, just a straight Justin Craig Groff. You can DM me with if you want to get started. You can DM me with questions, whatever. Just reach out. Don't be shy. Beautiful.

And if you want to email me once you do release your app, I can incorporate into the show notes. Nice, bro. I'll do that, definitely. Yeah, definitely. So I do appreciate you coming on the show today, Justin. Hell yeah. I appreciate it. Great. Thanks, bro. Yeah. You're good? We got it? You like that? Hell yes. Hey, let me know when you, when you post this, I'll link it to my stories on Instagram. For sure. No, thank you. I appreciate you. All right. I'll be in touch.

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