Your Transformation Station - 25. "Opinions" "Topics" "Facts" Larry Oliver w/ 'Favazza'

Episode Date: August 11, 2020

 Favazza and his cohost "Larry Oliver" go on another quip into the many differing realms of both politics, current events and personal opinion narratives.   Support the showPODCAST INFO:Podcast website: https://ytspod.comApple Podcasts: https://ytspod.com/appleSpotify: https://ytspod.com/spotifyRSS: https://ytspod.com/rssYouTube: https://ytspod.com/youtubeSUPPORT & CONNECT:- Check out the sponsors below, it's the best way to support this podcast- Outgrow: https://www.ytspod.com/outgrow- Quillbot Flow: https://ytspod.com/quilbot - LearnWorlds: https://ytspod.com/learnworlds- Facebook: https://ytspod.com/facebook- Instagram: https://ytspod.com/instagram- TikTok: https://ytspod.com/tiktok- Twitter: https://ytspod.com/x Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This is your transformation station. And this is your host, Greg Favaza. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Your Transformation Station. I am your host, Greg Favaza. This show right here, you're about to listen to. If you're new to it, hit subscribe. And while you're at it, leave us a review. hop on over to the iTunes

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at Your Transformation Podcast at gmail.com. Stop by our Facebook page at YTS, the podcast. This show is extra special today. Why? I got myself a coach host yes

Larry Oliver he is a straight up news junkie super geek but quite fit for being a 69 year old man and that's not what makes this show exciting what makes it so exciting today

and every week I haven't decided a day when I'm going to be releasing this on a consistent basis but I will let you guys know soon we go into politics Oh, God. I can't believe that came out of my mouth.

I never watched politics. I think it's complete garbage and pretty much horseshit. However, Larry knows quite a bit. He brings a new perspective to the table where we look at what's happening today in America. He's been through numerous presidents. He's rose from the age of the dinosaurs. He has got his driver's license taken away.

He can't even see more than five feet in front of him. But that's okay. Larry knows quite a bit. And let's get informed. Let's start establishing some self-awareness and start learning how we can be better civilians. Damn it. Better civilian.

I did it again. Better citizens. No, you have a really good voice. It makes me think about, I don't know, if you remember the movie, A Ghost Rider with Old Man, who's kind of like the cowboy, who's, uh. Are you talking about Sam, Sam Elliott? Yes. I think, I think it is.

He's got a real big white mustache all the night. Yeah. Yeah. I've been told that and actually I've done some, you know, can you do this read like Sam Elliott? I go, no, I can do the read like Larry Oliver would do it, sound, trying to. sound like Steve Elliott or Sam Elliott. And, you know, I mean, it's a lot of gravel. And you've got to hear them to get the right pitch.

But at this old age, it's pretty easy to add gravel. That's awesome. Yeah, the other person that people say when they hear my voice, if I do a soft up-close read is Donald Sutherland. because he's just real quiet and can be very calming. What movie was he in? He's been in so many. I'm trying to think of everybody, of course,

knows his son from 24, Keith Sutherland. Oh. I don't know if I can pull out of my mind a recent movie. Because Donald is old. I mean, I don't, he still does the orange juice commercial Florida, Orange Juice Commercial and National Television. That's not all the Southernland. But I don't think physically could actually do a movie.

You know, it's pretty strenuous work. I'm more of a face guy. I'm very, very hyper-observant in all my surroundings. And I kind of just remember every detail to somebody. Wow. Is some of that from your military training? Military training also kind of training myself, I guess, with being like growing up in a chronic stressful environment you kind of adapt to associate from reality

and utilize safety patterns in your own brain to protect yourself and my thought process was just understanding people's intentions before they actually act and I've done so much research as far as books I have like over 30 downstairs I still keep reading them just to understand people's ticks why they move their hands what do they do? before they are about to say something, you know, and it all just becomes, it's like a cluster of information that spikes me in my head right when they're about to do something I already know. Yeah, that's very interesting. What, especially today, where having those skills is really helpful for everybody. Everybody should do that. I find myself, I live in a very urban area

in in St. Louis, you know, real close to Tower Grove Park. I don't know if you're familiar with that, but it's in the South City. And whenever I get out of my car, especially at night, before I actually open the door, I just kind of check around and see if there's anybody hanging, you know, that I need to be aware of. Very intelligent. I'm not hyper, but it's just, I try to be aware of what's around me. But like for a lot of people, old people that are like older than I am physically because I'm in pretty decent shape for an old guy.

And women and girls, they need to hear from somebody like you, a contemporary age-wise, the younger people, how important it is to be hyper-aware. I mean, not to be paranoid. Just be aware. There's like three people over here with my right and there's one in front of me and I got this weird guy behind me. Just not that anything's going to happen, but just knowing that makes you be a little bit more alert and aware. Just like in the grocery store, some people never wonder is somebody coming around the cart really, you know, around the corner with their cart really fast. And I'm one of those people that before I like go across the aisle, I kind of slow down and peek around and look around the cart really fast. what's going on, you know, and then continue.

I mean, it's very important. I mean, just the fact that you are aware of the environment is a deterrent in itself, because if we look through the eyes of the possibility of an individual that is following you or thinking about fouling you, your awareness will have them shift to a new victim. It's sad as that is, that is the reality. There are people out there who just, do want to do something to somebody and it's not good intentions. I mean, that's an interesting fact in it of itself.

It can be a deterrent. I like that. What did you talk about on your Monday show? Did you do a? Yes. So with the Monday, I went into details as far as how we look back on past transgressions. as far as that is the hindering factor in our success today because if we haven't experienced achievement or we haven't experienced achievements lately we tend to fall back on previous

events in our childhood as our social upbringing things that weren't good and that starts to bring us down sadly and then when you keep thinking about it, you actually start to develop the physical traits of that experience that happened so long ago, as far as you get anxiety, your complexion in your face starts to change, start to look older. It's just, it's really interesting, and I'm doing a lot of reading with it, is to understand what if you could swap it around as far as rather than worrying about a situation is to remember a positive experience and how that felt. For me, gaining my expert infantry badge, three weeks of just pure hell, blood, sweat, and tears.

It was amazing as far as everything that I went through at this moment. I can barely stand covered in sweat and I feel so alive. and I always look back on that moment right when I'm about to actually do something. That's amazing. You said a couple things that I find extremely amazing. Have you ever heard of a fellow by the name of Dr. I call him Dr. Joe. His name is Dr. Joe Despenza, B-I-S-P-E-N-Z-A. Z-A. Dr. Joe Dispenza.

Google them when we're done, and he's got a plethora of videos out there. But what's really interesting, I mean, his whole focus is based almost on what you just said. His whole, he's a doctor or chiropractic. You know, he's a chiropractor.

But he doesn't practice chiropractor, however you would conjugate that correctly. He, for the past 10, 15 years, has been researching extensively human mind and psyche. For example, if you can't change your life, if you can't change your thought. Yes. And the knowledge you acquire is for your brain, the experiences you acquire, you acquire, are for your body for the vessel. So when you experience that hell you went through,

for example, in infantry to get your badge, I mean, I can't even imagine the hell, but watching movies if there's any realistic, I mean, what they do to find soldiers to train them for everything that could possibly happen. It's the worst case scenario you're trained with so that almost any situation you know instinctively how to deal. Okay, so these experiences communicate the shit to the brain.

The brain obviously takes the knowledge and produces a thought. I think, therefore, I am. The thought of the chair is what's real. The chair is not, because if I destroy the chair, the chair's still in your mind, the thought. So his whole deal is, are so many of our problems, our challenges, our obstacles that keep us from moving forward, progressing and enjoying the success and the abundance that we're supposed to have that each individual is supposed to have, if you want to go down that road and believe on that, which I do, but I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying I'm stuck with it. And I try to stick other people with it like my kids. I've tried instilling that, you know, positive thoughts generate positive things. But to really drill into it and understand that when we wake up in the more, morning, our body wants everything to be this, just like it was yesterday. Yes.

We're used to it. It's habits and rituals. It's easier. It's not uncomfortable this morning to do what you did yesterday morning, even if that's not what you should be doing. Your body will make your mind think, well, it's okay. But if you can train your mind chemically, ultimately, you're going to alter the chemistry in your body, the synapsis.

and even genes. He, over the past 10, 15 years, he's done over 8,500 brainwave to 8,500 different people, you know, looked at the imaging of their brains at different times, what portion of their brains processing what. He's gained this enormous experience in a book, if you will, of knowledge about thought and how it affects. what we do. So his concept is we as people rely on things that happened in the past, our experiences, to predict the future. But that's why most of us can't change or easily change the future, because we're locked in all of that shit in the past, the same chemistry, the same habits. That's what we're going to go to today. It's easier and more comfy. If you take us,

one of his keys is meditation. And he says, you know, if you're busy, you meditate for 20 minutes a day. If you're really busy, you meditate for 120 minutes a day. You know, you meditate for an hour and a half, whatever. His whole point is if you get to a point in meditation or you're truly, I call it just being present, devout of your body and let your mind go, that's what develops those new thought patterns that can ultimately change tomorrow. Because we use the same thought patterns, nothing's really going to change.

That's Joe Dispenza. He says it much more eloquently than I do, but he's got some great videos. I highly recommend at least watching a couple, two or three. They're generally long. So unless you really get into them, you're not going to watch a complete video. You're going to see that next. but get a feel for them. I think there's some stuff you might like.

I'll be sure to link that in the show notes. But if we look like when you said the chair analogy, is that like, is that a Freudian or Darwinism? I'll learn to that. Yeah, I've heard of both of those. It's the philosopher that I think therefore I am. Yes. Why this is the fun thing about being old in the first thing that goes is your memory.

You would know his name, and I promise I will get that back to you. It's famous, and everybody, anybody that's listening, they know who that philosopher is. I know it. I can't give you his name, but it is a school of thought, I think, therefore I am. Yes. An old ancient philosopher. Wait, Socrates? Not Socrates.

Aristotle. You know what? We have this thing here that I always forget. It's called Google. Yeah. And if I just plug in, I think. Yeah, Larry Googet. There.

If I typed it right, what's it today? I think, therefore I am. Yeah, all I'm looking for, why don't you discourse on method? Descartes. D-E-S-C-A-R-T-E-S. Descartes. That was the philosopher. I did not.

I ever knew that one. And again, he's one of those ancient, I think, Greek. philosophers you said I think Socrates I think he was from that era maybe a little more contemporary than that era that's really interesting but yeah there we go so I love Google I always so many times when I'm with people are talking and somebody goes yeah I wonder what and you know then one of us has a brainstorm fuck let's Google it okay or you know scary don't have to plug it in say, hey, Siri, who said, I think, therefore I am?

Anyway. What else is going on in your world? Did you happen to see? Question. And it's kind of a loaded question because of our phone conversation. Did you happen to see the Axios interview that Jonathan Swan, the reporter, had a long-ass-ass interview? with 45 with President Trump. And they finally released a bunch of it to news media outlets.

Wow. Did you see any of it? No. I honestly do not watch the news. I don't have a fucking clue what's going on with today in the world because it's a lot of bullshit, altering and nonsense, but yes. Oh, absolutely.

I agree 100%. They told you, I'm a news junkie. but most of the news that people digest, it comes from news talk shows, not really news. You know, and there aren't news anchors, their talk show hosts that has a bunch of alleged pundance opining on different shit, you know. Anyway, this, it probably YouTube, you can grab pieces,

of it. So revealing, so revealing on this guy that's leading the country. But again, I'm a news junkie, and it doesn't matter what side of the fence one's on. If they watch some of this interview, I mean, you'll see the real guy that's leading the country. I mean, here, let me give me an example. of a question in almost verbatim answer. You're familiar with just recently a congressman by the name of John Lewis died. Nope. So John Lewis, all right. No, this is cool because we talked about this kind of stuff.

And this is our, we'll call this Civics 101 versus politics or government. But so John Lewis was an Afro-American dude. who in the 1950s was 19 or 20 years old kind of guy. Okay. So he grew up in, and he came from a place in Troy, Alabama. So he and his family experienced some of the most severe treatment or mistreatment that, you know, black folks could endure. And it was before that Afro-Americans or any minority for that.

had necessarily a right to vote because that right, that amendment didn't occur until 1963 or four, I believe, is when that law was, it was passed into law that, no, everybody's equal when everybody gets to vote. It doesn't matter if you're black or not. And yeah, a black person can drink out of the steam water fountain as a white person. It's okay.

In the deep south, it wasn't, and there's parts of the deep south, where they still have the segregated water fountains and baths They don't necessarily enforce them. But so he grew up in that environment. And if you're familiar with the Pettus Bridge and in Bloody Sunday when it was in the early 60s, he and a bunch of other folks walked across the bridge into an area that they were told they're not welcome. He and many others were beaten and killed for just,

for just, his skull was cracked. It's on, you know, the black and white original newsreel footage. Billy clubs literally cracked his skull. He woke up in the hospital. He was arrested some 40 times over his life. But anyway, he ultimately, as a fairly young man, was elected to Congress and he served in Congress for, I don't know, 30 plus years, 35 years.

It's a whole different story. about should there be term link, you know, minimums, maximums, whole different subject. But anyway, he died of pancreatic cancer just in the last two weeks. But he's a great icon to the country, and most especially if you're African American, I mean, he's one of the civil rights leaders. I mean, on the same level really as Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, that whole group of people. Okay, so he just recently died. You know, his casket was in set,

light in state at the rotunda of the Washington D.C. Halls of Congress, very respected, regardless of where people are from and all of that. He's an icon. He was an icon. In the interview, in the interview, Swan asked, 45, I said to him, So what, you know, what are your thoughts about on the passing of John Lewis?

And 45 said, you know, he didn't come to my inauguration. And then he went on to, you know, I built the greatest economy. Yeah. I mean, not to say he was a great statesman next, but that was his one statement for this guy that served the country as a congressman. for, I think, 30 plus years, but was a huge leader in the civil rights movement. I mean, an icon. I think he's the last of that generation. Everybody else is, you know.

If we look at that as far as, like, him deflecting, I mean, the fact that you described this guy as such an amazing icon for African Americans, and then just not even acknowledging what he's done for America and just completely blew it off like it was nothing really says a lot about his character. And that's what I'm saying. Yeah, you probably can get a hint as politically where I come from, but as being as objective as I can.

And today it's hard to be objective. But what I will tell what you just said is so observant and so spot on to describing, 45 because if you stop and think about it, Lewis served his country for years, made huge sacrifices, being arrested 40 times for being an obedient protester. Having your, you know, beat up with a billy club. You know, it just-man with principles. And the person that totally distrauded.

respect you made up having bone spurs on his foot so he wouldn't get drafted. Kind of a weird comparison. You know, a guy that grew up in Troy, Alabama without running water or indoor plumbing, versus a guy that was born with a silver spoon in his hand and his filed bankruptcy. Yeah, it wasn't personal, but in his corporation. it is him six fucking times, six fucking times through his life and he's the best businessman in the world. I mean, if you listen to him. If we look at the dividing factor between the other, what was the guy with his head bashed? What's his name again? John Lewis. Don Lewis. And then

we have 45. There's a difference between those two. And one, has principles and the other one that does not. And with that kind of behavior, that doesn't go away. It only just gets refined and gets, they get better and better at what they do and with the other person help this world. And that's disgusting just to see that running America right now. Yeah. And it's, I believe on the government side, when we talk about politics, you have to look at

the levers, levers of power. because there's a lot of levers of power that not only run our government, but run the world. And a lot of the levers of power certainly aren't elected, appointed, or out front. I mean, some can say one of the levers of power in our country are many of the special interest groups. The media is certainly a power lever. and there's more than one media power lever, if you will. So, you know, there's all these levers being pulled constantly. And that's why, in my view, the leader of our country really is ultimately the leader of the free world.

The United States always used to be that when they respected our leadership. I don't believe they respect our leadership. That's pure opinion. I don't believe they respect our leadership. If anything, they fear it not because of power, but because there's an unpredictable guy at the head of it. You know, it's kind of cool to be unpredictable, you know. But when you lead a country, when you lead the world,

you know, your allies and your enemies, kind of got to know how you're going to react to something. Is it a cool bargaining tool not to show all your cards? You know, when you're playing poker or you're trying to negotiate a business deal? Yeah, I mean, you know, you use it wisely. But when it comes to international politics, you know, world it's as explosive as today and is divided as the world is today. I've never seen the world be as polarized as it is, as divided,

as people not even willing to listen to somebody with a different view. Well, you're wrong. You're fucking crazy. How could you think there? There, I got a couple questions there. So who do you think is actually pulling the letters? Do you think it is a number in quotations, 45? And my other question was, before I forget this, is do you think America can't actually

handle the truth what's really happening right now? let me answer the first question the second question first um one of the really big challenges today for so many people especially non news junkies i'm not saying that being a news junkie makes me better or smarter because i don't believe that but what i do believe is it's real hard to figure out what the truth is um because one because of media and two because at the leadership level if we just talk about the pandemic for a second, talking about truth, you've got the doctors and scientists

that really don't have a political lever, these, lever, these career-long, you know, specialists in infection diseases that they get turned on when they look in a microscope and see microbes and shit. I mean, they don't give a fuck about, you know, vote for me.

I mean, they may give a fuck about keeping their, job, you know, but that's on a different level of politics. But so you got those guys telling you about, you know, how we can potentially, you know, get our arms around the pandemic and make it as safe as we can yet have the economy open because the economy's got to be open. Kids have to go to school, but we have to do it wisely. So we infect as few people as possible until 60, 80% of our population, the world's population, ultimately, but our country's population is enough. and or has developed their own immunity against this shit. And until we learn more about it, because it is a novel virus.

So you got those people, the people that have the knowledge telling you what to do and what's going on. And then you got fucking 45 who says, you know, drink Lysol and, you know, sit under an ultraviolet light and it'll go away. You know, we're doing great. Yes, in the same, back to this interview, because this is this. answers your question and then I'll answer the first question. So in this interview, the reporter Jonathan Swan said to 45, you know, the pandemic, the epidemic, it's getting out of control. You know, there's 155,000 people that have died from it. And 455 started to disagree with them on that it's widespread and uncontrolled. And Swan's,

said, you know, but 155,000 Americans have lost their lives to this thing. And he goes, well, I don't know if that's right. Whatever it is, it is. 155,000 lives, whatever it is, tell that to, you know, the mothers and fathers and sons and daughters and brothers and sisters and friends of the 155,000 people that died. Could you imagine the president sending a letter to a soldier that sacrifice the ultimate in serving his country. And the letters started out to the parents, you know, sorry to tell you this, but in this attack on whatever your son gave his life, it is what it is, but we're going to, you know, take care of it and bury him here in our, it is what it is, is his attitude on 155,000 deaths that could he have stopped those debts?

know to what degree. But that gets back to the truth is a real problem. So who do people believe? The orange guy or, you know, the guys with the glasses and the little sunizers that, you know, that they're looking at microbes. You know, I tend to want science at this point. Yes. Well, because there's so many things that I've noticed. One, with what you said as far as having the president send a letter to a soldier that has lost his life. Honestly, through my experiences and what I understand is how big army operates, I believe that the president himself isn't going to send a letter. It's going to be a printoff of his handwriting, his signature,

and it's going to be put it down to make it them feel special. As sad as that is, but that's the reality. It's all all the information is on the internet. You can all find it. if you just know where to look. And then with, I had two other comments to make as far as the answer, what you said.

That was really caught my attention, what to come back to that. Okay. Yeah, they don't come back. Like the adage goes, if it's important. Oh,

yes. So with the pandemic, it serves 155,000 number, like thousand deaths. Okay, one, wouldn't you want to challenge that information? Because 155,000.

That's just, seems like a ballpark rounded number. Like, wouldn't it be like maybe 149, 607, maybe and a half? We were to say there was a midget in there or something. But it's just that is a ballpark number. And then if we look and study human behavior as far as drink Lysol, it's, to me, I'm perceiving it as a joke where it's like whatever, whatever you think, if that's what you think, then yeah, this is just do this. because now he's getting a kick out of it. So I'm looking at, does he know the real truth and we don't? And then the fact that we are falling in suit to what the media is telling us to do, it's kind of become hilarious as far as, yeah, you guys are.

Yeah, what a great observation. And again, that whole thought has crossed my mind many times. But here's the clincher on that. yeah, you got four different big media outlets going four different ways with the pandemic. And first, let me jump back to that number, 155,000. I just said 155,000. Right now, you can go to any of the media, and they'll have on the screen. Right now, there's probably 156,435 deaths.

I mean, they're precise at any given moment. And you can go by state. you can go to the state of Missouri. They keep statistics by zip code of the infections in the deaths. You can plug in your zip code and see how many people have been tested positive for it, how many people have died for it, how many people are in the hospital. The problem with that, though, is that they are making doctors now actually tailor any incidents related to COVID-19. So, again.

Absolutely. If you come in and you were in a car accident and died. and they checked you for COVID and you had COVID, that would be reported as a COVID death, even though COVID might not have caused the death. I agree 100%. Is that a good way to do it? I don't know.

Is it misleading? Not necessarily. All it's saying is we know this person had COVID because we tested them and they're dead now. Now, do you count that as a COVID death, even in my example to make it easy? you know, he was run over by a truck and running over his body is what killed his death. Yet I do believe, yes, that would be count in my understanding that would still be counted as a COVID death.

And in a way, I think at the end of the day, what's important is we have to get it under control. Whether there's 112,000 deaths, real deaths caused by COVID, or 1,200 deaths. absolutely caused by COVID or 250. The fact is the infection is causing a lot of disruption. There's a lot of people getting really sick from this virus we don't know much about. And it's a little out of control. It's a little out of control. And again, to think as 45 thinks that everything that he sees is a challenge,

everybody who doesn't like him, everybody that doesn't listen to everything he says, they're against him. And you're either for me or against or against me. And if you're against me, fuck you. That's an ultimatum. Yeah, no, and that's he's black or white. Everything with him is, you know, black or white.

That's a manipulation tactic. Exactly. And he goes back and forth and he changes his mind. He says mail-in ballots are okay for the state of Florida. which is run by Republicans, incidentally. But mail-in ballots are not okay, and I'm going to sue. He actually has filed suit.

The United States government has filed suit against Nevada to keep them from doing mail-in voting. And that's, incidentally, a Democratic state, a Democrat state. So it's okay in Florida because I got my buddies running it, but it's not okay in Nevada because they don't have my buddies running. Well, can you just look at, like when he, initially got elected, actually just look at the data as far as what were the numbers in Nevada? Is that projected as far as, oh, well, we know Nevada hates you, so we're just going to try to help you out doing that?

Yeah, well, keep in mind, I don't believe Nevada hates him at all. I don't believe any state hates him. He has supporters in all 50 states. and 30% of the population, what he said during the 2016 election during the campaign, he said, and this is almost verbatim, you can Google this and you'll find it. It's not far off of what he said, but he said, I could stand on Fifth Avenue in New York City and shoot somebody, and nothing would happen to me. And I believe he's absolutely true.

That's true that 30% of the population, I mean, wash his feet. They're going to be with him regardless of what he does. And what's weird is much of those, the 30% of his supporters, strategically by the electoral college, are located in really important electoral college areas. I mean, that's how he won the election. If you assume that our election return information is accurate, and it's a big assumption, but assuming, if you go with me and assuming that,

he lost the popular election by three million votes. But of course, he won the electoral college, and the electoral college is what elects the president. And he's not the only president that has lost the popular vote, but won the electoral vote that's happened a few times throughout history. But my point is, strategically, you got to have your support in those states that can make up for the fact that he's never going to, he didn't then and he won't now, when California or New York, I don't believe ever. I think he's going to lose Texas this year, which is unbelievable.

But California is so liberal and so blue as a state, you know, he's never going to get a bunch of electoral. What does that mean as far as blue? Blue Democrat. Blue Democrat, Red Republican. Yes. I don't know why that, how that started, but it was years ago. So, yeah, red is, goes with Republican and blue is Democrat, liberal and conservative. liberal being the Democrats generally and conservatives being read or Republicans.

And now there's so much melding because it's really hard to tell from the difference between a conservative Democrat, if there is such a thing, but let's pretend there is, from a conservative Democrat and a liberal Republican, if there is such a liberal Republican. But I don't believe anything's black and white. I don't think anything's red or blue or, you know, liberal or conservative. I have real liberal views in some areas and fascist views, like our penal system. I'm quite a fascist when it comes to our prison systems. You know, but when it comes to many social things, I'm quite liberal, you know. like what's the main accomplishment that both parties are trying to accomplish as far as I mean if you look at the republic and then the democratic so like say if I were to choose a side

what would make it more appealing to me that I should join them or join the other one well generally I would say it depends on issues that are important to you determines who's platform, if you will, you support, and then ultimately you would support the people who will believe and work for that platform, that group of issues that we're going to do, just easy, you know, universal health care, okay? If you don't want universal health care, you're going to tend to move away from people that support in platforms that support that. income or a living wage, minimum wage. If you support that, you'll move that way.

If you're a progressive and want free college for everybody, that's a real left view that's crazy, I think. You know, why should wealthy people get free college? I mean, needy people, you know, if they have the wherewithal, yeah, there should be. But those are some just three examples. examples of issues, capital punishment, abortion, taxation, all these are various issues that parties and candidates build into their platform and that's who you follow. But today, for the last three, four, five years, and really the last, since 2016, there's more to

it because part of it is trying to find the truth who's in power and you know the Democrats spend all their time saying well we can't do anything because we have a Republican controlled Senate so Mitch McConnell won't even put bills on the Florida vote Mitch McConnell being the leader of the Senate which is controlled by the Republicans so there's no way If they votes on party lines, anything that happens in the Senate is going to be decided by the 60 Republican senators, unless 40 of the, or 51, if you will, some things require two-thirds majority, some or simple majorities just require 51 votes. But the fact is, there are 60 Republican senators in the Senate. So if everybody votes on party lines, they're always going to win whatever they want.

And Mitch McConnell's their leader, he's the one that allows bills to be brought onto the floor to be debated and ultimately voted on. But he won't even accept bills. The House sends the bills to the Senate, legislation to the Senate. And Mitch McConnell goes, I'm not going to put that up for debate. We're not even going to talk about this fucking shit, you know, because I control this. do anything about it. That's interesting. I mean, it's obtuse to think that 435 representatives of our federal government

put forth a bill, regardless of whether the bill's good, bad, or indifferent, but they put a bill on your desk. And you, Mitch McConnell, now, have to schedule it to be discussed and debated and ultimately voted on. But if he doesn't put that on the table to be discussed, debated, and voted on, then he goes out and tells the president, we can't do anything because the Democrats, you know, the House of Representatives is controlled by the Democrats. So you have the best and worst case scenario of our imperfect nation as the founders thought about it. Do you have these two different parties? We have three different levels of government, right?

the executive, the legislature, in the judicial. And they're all kind of independent, but they're more interdependent. Some have certain explicit powers. Some powers are implied. Others are left to the courts to determine what guys 250 years ago meant when they said this. How do I interpret that? And back then, you know, having muskets as your self-defense, it's okay to have weapons at the house. Well, yeah, you had a fucking musket, and you would take a ramrod and clean it out

and then take a cannonball or, you know, a big 45 caliber ball and stick it in the musket and then cram in more gunpowder and pull the trigger and hope you don't blow your head off. They didn't envision that you would have an automatic weapon that could spray, you know, 150 bullets a minute or however fast some of those assault weapons that are designed.

Yes. to kill people for military use. I've never been a hunter. I'm a fisher. I have friends and I've been hunting, bow hunting. What's interesting, what's very interesting is the fact that you said, this document that's been written over 200 plus years ago, we didn't, we aren't thinking on their terms.

I think that's the problem right now is the fact that we are looking back on something as important it is, but we are looking at in modern day terms. And that's kind of, if you can, you can, that's very universal if you were to look at religion. You actually understand religion on a more, more in-death aspect. I'm same thing with philosophy. As far as if you were to look at it from their time, I think that will give you the understanding of what you should have and what you should be doing for the people, rather than looking at it for today. Because now we have biases and policies that we fall victim to without even knowing it.

or we have other agendas as far as like a quid pro quo. No, there's so many factors. And I just think that they're not really taking that consideration. And I mean, why not? If I'm up there, it's like, fuck it. I'm going to do what's good for me. Yeah. And that's, I think, again, you know,

you just nail some of these so quickly and concisely. I don't know anything about the government. Your intuition is so spot on. I mean, it just is because when we look at our Constitution, this document that was written 200 plus years ago, sometimes I atmospherically extract a number like 250. I don't know, but it's over 200 years old, I think, because it was done in the 1700s.

It's like, too, it's like the Old Testament. And again, I'm talking more philosophy. than religious, but if you take this document, the Old Testament that is pretty old, it and I believe our Constitution, it's a guide and it's dynamic. It's not static. The Bible's not static. The Bible's, we know the Old Testament is scientifically not accurate. We know the universe was not created in seven days, according to the scientists. You know, I mean, it might have taken nine days. I don't know. You know, it's a big big. But so it doesn't matter. You know, people that are study the Bible and are observant religious people and theologians, when they interpret

biblical stuff, they try to bring it current today. So it's meaningful. When we take our Constitution are the founders of our country. I mean, when you stop and think about what they did, they had nothing to look at. They had no other blueprint in the world at the time to examine and how do we put this together. I mean, the only thing they could compare to was maybe the magnet charter. I think that was in the 1600s. So they might have looked at that. The magnet chart. I never heard of that. So that's a document. similar to the Constitution, I think it was in England, but it was done in the 1600s. And I think it was the English government or people against the monarchy in England put together

this big document, big document, Magna Charter, that talked about inalienable rights that we should have, even us little surf guys, you know, that no, you know, are beholden to the king and the queen. So our Constitution might have some framing around those general concepts because it starts with our bill of rights, you know, inalienable rights to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. All of us are created equal, except slaves are only three-fifths of a person. I mean, can you, it's actually written in the Constitution that the slaves, their chattel property like a cow, except they don't count. as one slave is only three-fifths of a person. Larry, so I have a question now. It just popped in my head.

I'm a really deep thinker. And I want you to try to stay with me. So when I was in the military, with enlisted and you go in and become, like after a period of time, you become non-commission officer. And I was a sergeant at the time. And with officers, they come in as commission.

Well, they had their own. set of principles they had to follow as well as I had my own set. I'm categorizing myself with every other NCO. And I'm trying to relate that to like the American population. What if we're following these sets of principles that the government is supplying to us? And then they have their own set of principles, something that they actually fall because there's always somebody telling somebody else what to do. There's always authoritarian at the very top. So my question is, is there another level, another hierarchy of, I'm losing it right now. Come on stay with it, great. Another level of understanding that we don't have, that we don't know what's going on

as far as maybe they have their own document that says this is your principles on how you are supposed to be to issue this to America? The short answer is yes. Smart-ass answer. Yes. Okay. What I'm saying is obviously that's a little sarcastic. I will, my thought, my belief, my opinion today at the highest levels of our government, at the Oval Office and the people that sit around the cabinet table, there aren't any principles.

It's all ad hoc. It's all what serves 45. It's all what serves 45's cabinet and his cronies. And now, let me step back for a minute. not saying Obama was any different except a couple things. Perception-wise, he was a lot different. He had principles that the public knew. He might have had those other principles that guided him in all his public decisions.

But would it be wanting you to make you think he had principles? For me looking at people, as far as when somebody comes off is too perfect, that makes me wonder. Absolutely. And again, in our world, especially in the business world, in the corporate world, in that structure world. And this is one thing I really like about the military because I don't believe it's that important in the military. But perception in the business world in politics is key. Performance isn't. Perception outperforms performance every time. That's interesting. Okay. Again, it's just a belief I'm stuck with. I mean, I've been around the corporate world to know enough to know, how do these non-performers excel in a corporation? Because perception and the political camp they live in is the correct camp. You know, and they're perceived to be a good old boy. You know, and people want good old boys.

You want people that think and act like you do around you, most of us, you know, especially when it comes to a business. business environment or you're getting ready to go make a major purchase. You want to buy it from somebody that you believe really has some of your interest. You know, ulteriorly they may have different interests in mind, but they're going to take you into consideration. A really good salesperson will put you number one, because that'll make him more sales over a long run.

But if he's like 45 and he's in it for the short run, he just, you know, bang, bang, thank you, ma'am. Next. bang, bang, thank you, man. No, you know, it's, so I think there very well may be another set of guiding principles for high level of leaders in management, not only in our government, but in large corporations, in medium-sized businesses, just like there are in families, you know. I mean, especially me, I mean, I don't point or throw right.

into glass houses because I know how many mistakes I make, but I can't tell you how many times I've told my kids, do as I say, not as I do. So in a way, I have a separate set of operating principles, but I have a different set of operating principles. I'd like my kids to live by. This is what I wish I would have done with my life, you know, but these principles back here,

for whatever the reasons, I allowed them to guide me down the road I took. So that's an incredible observation. The scary part is, is what if part of those other principles, the hidden, and there's a better word than hidden, the obscure, secret, I'm not sure what the word is, that set of principles, if they're put together and guided by foreign powers, okay? I mean, that's frightening, especially because there's very few foreign powers I can think of that are as democratic, for lack of, as the United States. Of all the things that are wrong with the United States, all the things that people complain about, at the end of the day, I don't know that there's another country that I'm aware of, that I'd rather live, you know, because we're,

We do have liberties that are pretty widespread in not a lot of direct authoritarianness. I mean, in some countries, some of the stuff we're talking about right now, we could be put in jail for the rest of our lives and beaten severely. Yes. You know, bamboo splints under our fingernails and shit. And thanks to people like you and people that have served and served in the military. they protect and fight and sacrifice ultimate sacrifice but huge sacrifices you've sacrificed huge your time in the military has I believe changed a lot in your life a lot in your psyche oh yes good banner and different I mean it it's it's had remarkable changes

but we the public owes so much to the military because that's what allowed us to have conversations like this because otherwise an authoritarian type person or country could take over and say you can't talk about us like that the only television networks you can watch are state control we'll take care of the media problem we're just going to give you our propaganda it's all you ever get to see um no we're flooded with sometimes i think too much media from coming from all different views what i don't understand though is With military, I personally never gotten deployed overseas. I signed up for infantry.

I was ready to go overseas. I extended my contract. I was very pristine in my job. I was super soldier. And I can say that with confidence because of how much deliberate action that I applied myself every day. Other guys would be out getting hammered drunk, not me. I would actually be at home studying, reinforcing, refining.

and it would show in my character every step that I'd taken outside on post. But what I've noticed and what I've heard with people that get deployed, a lot of it is just a bunch of nonsense. It's like, why are we here? Why are we doing this? As a security detail, what are we doing here? And the fact that if damages are done, I believe the U.S. has to pay for those damages because we inflicted on them.

The point is why they were sent there in the first place and then we go back. That raises one suspicion. Another suspicion is with the media as far as we know it's controlled, we know there's manipulation behind it. And that's the only source is that we are constantly taken in. And to me, it just, it rings a belt as far as like a cult almost. It's like it's all different control of getting you to believe in something that you don't believe. And it really raises a lot of suspicions my head.

Are you familiar with when you mentioned cult? It reminded me of the current contemporary organization group cult. I'm not sure the right word to use. Q, Anon. No. The letter Q and A-N-O-N-O-N. Google ad. It hits right on what you're talking about, I believe.

When you start talking about that the cult, the cult. And again, when you, what you just shared about the military, in when the military is over in some country doing whatever their orders are, number one, I believe the military is very principled. And there could be different principles in the military, having never been in the military, I don't know, but my observation in general, the military is very principled. very disciplined. And those principles dictate, for lack of a better word, how all the orders are carried out. And the military is respectful of this hierarchy. You know, a private first class

isn't going to smart off to a sergeant or a general or a lieutenant without severe repercussions. obviously not so in civilian life. But so when you talk about those unknown principles, I think in the military, those exist probably at the highest level of military that communicate with our highest levels of leaders. So that, and this is what I fear about today in our present administration that's leading the country

is we've seen, I mean, 45 has just downplayed some of the country's contemporary great generals. When they served him, when they were on his cabinet, he said, these are the greatest people in the world. And then when they would go against his wishes and then talk negative about him, because if you aren't with him, you're against him. that general, I don't know how he became general. He was worthless. General Mattis, for example, or John Kelly. I mean, you know, whether they were good, better,

as far as somebody in a power position, the fact that if somebody with a high status, not as yours, but he's up there where he can make a ripple, the person completely in charge, if they feel threatened, they can almost insult them in front of everybody. What are you going to do about it? I just insulted you.

You're not going to do anything. At that point, he follows suit or they get rid of him. That is how you maintain control of the people you're trying to influence. Exactly. And that's exactly what's happened in our administration. My example, I mean, that's exactly what happened. Mad Dog Mattis resigned. And I don't believe he was fired at all.

I really believe his resignation did come as a surprise to 45. But yeah, he said, I can't work with you anymore in his resignation letter. He didn't say it exactly in those words. But that's really what his letter said is, I can't work with you anymore. You know, you don't have a word. You know, all we have is our word. Yes. You don't have a word.

And so our allies don't know. you pull out of fucking treaties, you know, just like he breaks contracts with business people, you know, and chooses not to pay business people. The Trump campaign still owes the federal government tens of millions of dollars from his inauguration. It's not him, but his campaign fund has not paid that bill. It's three and a half fucking years old.

Could you imagine if you didn't pay your cable bill for three and a half years? Oh, yeah. Interesting. For your electric bill? Yes. Yeah, no, I'm going to say this. Here's people that have the money and they don't pay it. It's not because they don't have the money. I don't have the $45 million.

No, I got like $120 million in here. But, you know, what are you going to do? Fire me? You know, I mean, so you're 100% correct. Yeah, and that's exactly what Trump has done. And I'm not saying that Obama and Bush and Clinton. Clinton didn't do things like that, but they didn't always do it. And they had some modem of respect.

It's rumored right now, it's rumored right now that 45 is going to do his acceptance for the nomination of the President of the United States. That speech that normally would take place at the Republican Convention, which isn't happening live because of COVID. but virtually he's put out for everybody to think about that I think I'm going to do my acceptance speech from the White House, maybe even in the Oval Office. There's no law that says he can't do that. But how appropriate is it for a sitting president to use the White House as a campaign stump? I mean, nothing political comes out of the – as far as that kind of – campaign rhetoric, especially if you've ever listened to any of his campaign rallies.

Never. Never list any garbage. I mean, it's it's entertaining and in comical. It's just the comedies at the expense not only of the American public, but of the world in general. All opinion. I mean, you know, in as many people as you can probably find to agree with what I has said there's, you know, some portion of people that would disagree with it. Yeah, they're not going to, people are going to be offended and people are going to appreciate it. But just so I get this out there, I don't have a clue with what is happening in politics. I choose not to watch it because I can, it's a discernment that I have. It's when I can tell people are trying to manipulate me, I just don't want to hear it because that's not the truth.

telling me is what they want me to believe. And when somebody's trying so hard, it's just you get that funny feeling. I choose not to give it to them, not to listen because you continue to listen. Okay, well, now I haven't left. Now I'm allowing myself to accept this information. You continue and you continue. Now you start to believe it. I mean, we don't have any self-awareness today in society. I've noticed that. It's like, how do you, how are you still alive? There's people I came across. where I asked that question as far as just really you make that mistake you are not even aware there's somebody behind you it's it's a bunch of nonsense it is and and I think that's the challenge for today not today but right now in the present time the what the world with the country is

going through right now is centered around the fact there's so many levels of of power that are trying to grab you, your attention, and persuade you to their way of thinking, believing, and living. That, yeah, and there's some herd mentality in that you got a herd over here following that shepherd. Yes. And you've got a herd over here following that shepherd. And this shepherd tells that shepherd and their flocks, you know, no, don't, don't

fuck around and listen to them. They're absolutely 100% wrong. There can't be anything right over there with that. And there's so much divisiveness in our country, in the world, it is exhausting because, like I said, as a news junkie, I mean, it's a hobby. But because I watch and ingest so many of these talk shows, I have to spend a fair amount of time on the internet searching for what I believe what I believe is factual unbiased information.

And I don't believe there's anything that's 100% unbiased. Yes. I mean, but you can talk about facts, even if you have a bias. If we want to talk about 2 plus 2 equals 4, that's a fact. Maybe it's not in quantum mathematics.

I don't know. It's way above where I could even think. But as I know two plus two, it equals four on the calculator. That's how it turns out. And I can get a bunch of people to agree with me that it is. And if you'll accept that as a fact, and I can tell you opinions on, you know, well, so should three plus one be four also? If two plus two is four.

I mean, we could debate stuff. But what we can't debate is two plus two equals four. But then all of a sudden, with 45's administration, you know, his big communications director early on his campaign, When the 45 was caught in an outright lie, that the photograph disproved what he said. And Kelly Conway said, well, it's just an alternative fact. Oh, so four plus six could equal four because that's just an alternative fact. that's a few minutes ago you you asked that question about truth and my answer was I don't know because

at the end of the day it's hard to discern what is the truth or what's actually socially acceptable what he did was balzy and he owned it like a boss and people for manipulating people if you can if you can face that with confidence and I mean with witty humor or just of way of words, it can be like, well, maybe he's right because you're up there. I'm down here. So that maybe you're right. Maybe I am wrong. And that's exactly exactly what he does. And he's a master. 45's a master at that. And his ardent followers, you know, are drinking the Kool-Aid. You stay with the cult, you know, they're drinking that Kool-Aid. And he can't do any wrong. and it's i think our american politics have become very cultless you know and it's frightening

especially having been raised in in the 50s and gone through the the norman rockwell growing up kind of lifestyle that doesn't exist anymore there's no middle class my dad was a We didn't have any money. I mean, I never wanted for anything. We lived in a really nice three-bedroom, semi-suburban home, went good public schools. I grew up in a diverse neighborhood, so there were, you know,

I went to school with Afro-Americans, with some Asians, with whites, with Jews, with non-Jews, with tall people. So I had a really nice, the way I grew up, riding bikes, playing outside, play football on people's lawns.

Have a rotary dial phone, which what I miss most about that is when you're tired of fucking talking to somebody, they piss you off. And you fucking slam that receiver down on a desk. Then unhook the damn thing, so then they can't even call. But I mean, you can't with a cell phone.

First of all, you'll break it if you slam it down on the table. You know, it's cracked screen. But how satisfying is that when you're talking to somebody having an argument? Motherfucker. you know, you slam it, you walk away, and then the phone rings again, and you don't know if it's them or not, right? Because there's no caller ID, and you run to get it because, again,

there weren't even recorders back then. So, who'd have I called me? I missed the call. Oh, my God. You know, it could be the publisher's clearinghouse. I won the $10 million. You know, fuck, what do I do? But, no, you bring back a, there's a good question I wanted to ask you.

It was with the levers. Who do you think is actually pulling the levers? I mean, honestly, I mean, just speculation, but just from hearing how things sound, I mean, just is pulling it right out of my ass. I feel like it's a foreign, something foreign that's not, that's not, it's telling us how they operate. It's just, it's just too, it's just too out there. Yeah, so think about this. I agree with you.

And on the, the person pulling our lever, a foreign entity, I should say, a foreign government, perhaps. I mean, somebody that's got the most on the table, somebody or entity or government that has the most to lose based on what the United States does, it's fucking China. You know how many treasury notes China owns? No.

I don't either, but a bowload. A bowload. I mean, we could look it up. They have hundreds of millions, probably billions of dollars of short-term treasury notes. It's a good fucking investment, right? We're a sure bet. You know, we've never defaulted on an interest payment, the country. So if they called all their notes, I mean, we would be bankrupt as a nation.

What would happen is our mint would just start printing money. Like what happened to Germany, you know, around World War I maybe, when their economy just collapsed, they just started printing more Deutsch marks. So our, you know, mint presses just start printing off a whole bunch of $100 bills. And, you know, we pay them with all this money that not only, we haven't had a gold standard for, fuck, years. I mean, I think Fort Knox only has maybe $11 billion of gold. You know, I mean, that's why if you look at your bills, it doesn't. doesn't say silver certificate. It's been years since it said silver certificate.

It says federal reserve note. It's an I owe you from your federal government, you know, saying we owe you this much money. You'll accept our word and believe in God, you know. And then, you know, this money has value. But if we don't accept your word, there's no value to it. And likewise, if somebody holding all this debt

decides to call it, I mean, picture a business that has a commercial note that they keep paying interest on and one day they come in to renew their 90 day note for a million dollars to this bank. The banker says, you know, we've been carrying this note. I know you pay interest every quarter just like you're supposed to, always on time, sometimes even early, but we got to reduce the principle on this thing. In fact, I want to close it out this year. So I'm going to call the note, give me the million dollars plus the interest right now. I mean, the business probably would throw it to say, I don't have that kind of cash. We have to fold up.

We have to go bankrupt. All my employees have to be without jobs. And I'm going to shut down the business because I can't do it. Now picture China that holds all these treasury notes. You know, if there came a point where they could call them and say, okay, you know, I'm sick of, you know, collecting my half percent interest, whatever the interest payment is on the, you know, interest payment is on those. I just,

give me my money back. You know, cash me out. I'm done. That's the really ugly. So what I'm saying is they may have a big lever wittingly or otherwise to the United States.

Because, too, we're so dependent upon China. And two, when you stop and think about it in today's term, this just popped into my head so it's coming totally off the cuff but has actually this whole conversation is but in China they've got I think the world's largest population in China okay so if they lose 10 million people to the pandemic population wise it's not gonna bother them and they probably were meaningless workers anyway you know which is a whole different

You know, what's happened to the working class and the middle class and the upper, the elites and what they do. But, you know, 10 million people to China, I've always said that if, if war ever went back, reverted to like it was in World War I, or, you know, you dig a ditch here and the enemy digs a ditch there. And, you know, you just like march towards each other and shoot. You can't beat China, just flank after, flank after flank. after flank after flank, you know, and then they bring in, you know, the Indians, the I-N-D-A, you know, to start built. Those two countries, the population, statistically, I don't know, but probably is three-fifths of the world's population in those two countries. And that was purely atmosphericly extracted, but there's huge populations in those two countries.

Larry, I, I mean, the United States hardly has any population worldwide. We got 350 million people, in what three trillion people I think is what lives here on earth a bunch of people yes I I'll Google that but I want to get you some numbers and comment on something first off I have a dark sense of humor so if you say we lose 10 million people there or I think it's funny because I have a great imagination like just picture the movie joker the very end where he's on stage says his spiel shoots the dude in the head i think that's fucking hilarious because it's just to go out like a boss make that on that stage impression it's like okay that was really funny i was the only one laughing there everybody but i just wanted to get that out there because i will laugh at the most

random times and that's because i'm thinking in my own world of like what if i was like this how would this but with uh total deaths as far as with covid 19 as of today's 8.5 million and then that's the world. And then the transition is why do we have to rely on on China for export, import export? Why can we just go through Mexico? I mean, what's, yeah, I mean, but we're so locked into China. I mean, I think that's part of the problem we had, especially early on and I believe we're still having it relative to providing the PPE. We were so dependent upon China.

Okay. And so now the pandemic, which 45, 45 says that China did it on purpose. I'm not going to debate that one way or the other. I'm just saying that's what he says. So when you take that into consideration, let's not do business with China. You know, they've fucked us forever on the trade agreements. And now they sent this terrible pandemic to us in the world. And we're not going to do business with him.

Yet at that moment, we still needed PPE and none of the factors. here had converted anything. So we're getting all the PPE from the people that are probably putting together boxes of masks and, you know, they're blowing in COVID-19 in there. Okay, next.

No, that's a weird conspiracy, but I go pretty dark too. What a cool way, you know, to take care of a potential enemy. You know, but... Just with that, I know

what a real leader is. It's somebody who puts us the welfare of people first. That is me. I apply that every day. Any innocent person I see on the street that is up at risk of getting mugged or getting hurt, I will be the first one on the scene before anybody else. I know that for a fact. And I will step in front of that gun and try to hurt that person. I'm trained. I understand. The other person doesn't. They're just getting mugged. But that, that, that, is just a trait of somebody who takes pride in themselves, who has good principles. And the people that I see on TV very briefly, because I just don't watch it. To me, it's boring because I don't hear somebody say they're going to do something when they don't. It's like listening to the weatherman.

Oh, it's going to be, it's going to be raining today. No, it's not. But I just, it just doesn't come off is really new, and I can see it on their face as far as just the light. There's no life inside their eyes. It really makes you wonder. You talk about your principles, which comes across, came across on the phone in our first conversation. But it reminds me a book I read, and it was, don't ask me the name of the book, but the author was referring to military leaders. when he talked about, well, the name of the book, in fact, is leaders eat last. I have heard of that book. And all I'm saying is that's really what you just said, how you run your life,

is that you're watching out for the other person. If you see somebody, again, this is metaphorical, but if you see somebody that's hungry and you have a sandwich, you're going to, you know, if this is your last sandwich that you know, have you strike me as a type person that would slice it in half and give it to that person that's starving before you even eat i i grew up you know very that's a leader that's what you said that's what the country and the world is missing with the united states we don't have that kind of leader um and i i i know i can't say that's factual but as close as you can get to that opinion

as being factual. If you look at a principled leader, if you look up what a leadership is, other than the power he has and the ability he has to have people follow him, there's nothing like a leader in 45. Leaders eat last, he has no concept of that. I don't think we're ever going to have a leader.

leader like that in America as a president because people that go up and climb up to the ranks to become president aren't usually that type I think maybe we might have one president that was in the military but everybody that has become president they don't possess that because the people that do possess these principles they don't they don't brag about it that's their way of life. At one point. People that do brag are the people I don't trust. Right.

Yeah. And that's, I'm 100% in agreement on that. And it, it really, when you compare our current leadership to previous leadership, there's a remarkable difference when it comes to that. And I'm not disagreeing that, yeah, anybody that, that pursues that level of leadership, again, because nobody forces you to be, okay, you got to be president of the United States. I don't want to.

No, come on, you got to be. No, it's somebody says, I want to be president of the United States. And I'm not talking about the kid in third grade. What do you want to be when you grow up? I'm talking about, you know, somebody that, you know, maybe served in city politics and then state politics and then federal politics. And somebody said, you know, you'd make a good president. You got a good following.

I think we've had in my 69 years here on earth, I've lived through a few presidents. The first one I was alive that I lived through that I knew about was military general. That was Eisenhower. But then Kennedy was too brief. Johnson, people can say, well, he let everybody else eat first because he signed the civil rights bill. And, you know, you had Ford, we had Nixon who really opened. I know you could go one way or the other. Nixon opened up the door to China because we had no relationship with them.

Was that good door to open? I don't know. But nobody else could open the door up until Nixon. I'm not and wasn't a Nixon fan. But I would trade 45 in on Nixon in a fucking New York minute. because at least Nixon admitted, you know, his shit. You know, he admitted once he got caught. I mean, he admitted.

But this guy would never admit any mistake that he's ever made in his whole fucking life. He takes no responsibility for anything. And he's the leader. So it's exactly what you said. He doesn't deserve to be a leader because he's all about himself. But so as I go through all these presidents that I lived through, each of them had some redeeming, you know, big thing that they accomplished, important to society in general. And some of those presidents, while they were egomaniacs, you have to be an egomaniac to be in that spotlight.

Bill Clinton, if Bill Clinton was a normal guy like you or me, nobody would have known that Monica gave him a blowjob. You know, I could be having a blow job right now, and you wouldn't know it, and no press would ever know it when the gal left, you know, and she wouldn't probably go brag. I just gave Oliver a blowjob, okay? I mean, yeah, you're 20 years old, whatever, and you give the President of the United States a blow job in the fucking Oval Office. I'm going to tell all my buddies, you know, I'm going to tell my friends. But all I'm saying is presidents are held leaders at that level are held to a different level, a different bar. much higher for them and it's good and bad for them they have no private life the press respected the privacy of presidents a long time ago nobody really knew that jfk was a womanizer until

well after he was dead because the press knew that maryl monroe was going over there every night and they were doing whatever they do but the press said you know what it's not affecting his ability right He's not going to tell Marilyn Monroe secrets about Russia, you know, in the heat of passion. Oh, my God, I'm coming. Oh, did I tell you Khrushchev, you know, swam to the shoe under the desk? No, it doesn't happen because the press, you know, that's really off grounds. But all of a sudden, I don't know when exactly it became on grounds for the press to be up in our leader's ass. They don't need to be up in our leader's ass that far.

They can be up there as a check. But we the public don't need to know it. You know, we don't need to know that 45 drinks 12 diet pepsies a day or whatever he does. Who cares? So this is a bunch of nonsense. But I could definitely tell if you are getting a blowjob, Larry, just by just by looking at, I can judge your posture, the dilation in your eyes as far as that goes with lips becoming plump and start turning forward, starts of sweat and just, yeah, I can kind of just see it. Like, yeah, Larry, you're definitely getting a blow job right now. this out.

Yeah, exactly. Can you wait a minute? Because I'm going to come in. Okay. Yeah, no, I could dream about that. But, you know, it's, you know. No. This has been a really good interview.

Yeah. Hey, I really enjoyed it. You're so insightful. You know, it's refreshing. It's refreshing for an old guy like me to know that there's at least one of you. And I'm imagining that there's a whole bunch of people as insightful as you. I don't know how everybody can corral them and create some really positive energy around that

and get some things different in the world today. But you and you have leadership abilities could be a force in carouling people. people that they care about principles, they care about values, that care about other people. I think that's very important in this world. And I appreciate that. I don't know how to take positive feedback. It's something I'm not used to. So I'm going to just say thank you for that. That's the best way to do it. That's exactly what I was going to say. Larry, would you like to be the co-host for this show? Yeah, I would love to. Awesome. I appreciate it. I love it.

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