Your Transformation Station - 38. Gauging YOUR Health with "Intermittent Silence" Dr. Krishna Bhatta w/ Favazza
Episode Date: November 22, 2020"How can you create a transformation in others if there's no transformation in yourself?" Join Greg "Favazza, podcast" host and creator as he interviews (Dr. Krishna Bhatta). "Dr. Krishna Bhatta" disc...usses intermittent silence and its benefits to our moods and overall well-being. The power of silence has been integrated into his specialized software named Relaxx. Support the showPODCAST INFO:Podcast website: https://ytspod.comApple Podcasts: https://ytspod.com/appleSpotify: https://ytspod.com/spotifyRSS: https://ytspod.com/rssYouTube: https://ytspod.com/youtubeSUPPORT & CONNECT:- Check out the sponsors below, it's the best way to support this podcast- Outgrow: https://www.ytspod.com/outgrow- Quillbot Flow: https://ytspod.com/quilbot - LearnWorlds: https://ytspod.com/learnworlds- Facebook: https://ytspod.com/facebook- Instagram: https://ytspod.com/instagram- TikTok: https://ytspod.com/tiktok- Twitter: https://ytspod.com/x Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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But when an emotional storm comes, like when you become angry or when you become frustrated or you are down, dejected,
you can somehow, if you have practiced this for some time, you can have that a little separation between your emotions and yourself.
You may be able to see that gap.
And the moment you see your emotional storms,
as if you are seeing it from outside,
somehow it tries to fade away
or it reduces its bite or sting.
And sometimes you may want to use anger,
but then that's a different thing.
You're not under the control of anger,
but you are controlling the anger.
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Today's guest, we are featuring Dr. Krishna Bada.
He brings a transformative tool for our toolbox.
This episode teaches us how to learn how to truly be silent
and stress-relieving benefits that comes with them.
He brings a new lens to the table
where we learn about intermittent silence.
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Dr. Bada, are you there?
Yeah, I'm here.
Okay.
Yes.
there you go. I like your background there.
Thank you.
Dr. Bahada, welcome to your transformation station.
Thank you.
How are you doing today?
I am doing good.
I'm so excited to be here with you.
I really do appreciate your time tremendously.
I've been going through your work.
How did this, this intermittent silence, how did you come
upon this idea in your life's journey?
So I've been meditating for a long time.
And one of the things in meditation is that the thoughts, your mind comes in the way most of the time.
That's the main barrier.
So how do we put something in our day-to-day life that can be helpful?
and also help you if you want to go in deeper meditation.
And as I was working on that,
I found that intermittent silence,
which has its own four components,
can be a doorway to deeper meditation,
but by itself, it can be very helpful in giving brain some rest
and also be applicable in day-to-day life.
Like if somebody comes to you and says something,
you are not compelled to respond immediately.
You can have a strategic response.
You will get that extra pause where you can think about what to say or how to respond.
So it has some practical advantages and also it becomes a doorway to meditation if you wanted to go.
deeper. Are you saying self-awareness as far as being present? So self-awareness is a little different than being
silent. So when you are silent, yes, awareness is there. Awareness is there. Mindfulness is there.
You have to have those. Otherwise, you'll fall asleep or, you know, you're not there.
So those things have to be there, but at the same time, by being without words or even by closing your mouth, which is one of the steps in intermittent silence, you are giving that part of brain rest, which carries on with processing of those words or making those words happen.
And similarly, if you close your eyes, the visual pathway gets a rest as well.
So it does provide an extra step of resting to the brain.
Would it be like our brains are comparable to computer, 70 tabs open and running,
similar to how we are busy or productive?
And if we were to close out those tabs, we can compare that to closing our
mouths, our eyes, and allowing our brain to essentially catch up.
Yeah, I didn't think of that analogy, but that sounds like a good analogy.
I mean, it is, we have 86 billions of neurons, and many of them, if you give them rest,
they will be thankful to you.
What have you noticed from your practice?
What benefits have you reaped from intermittent silence?
So intermittent silence, basically you practice 10 minutes a day.
But those 10 minutes, once you start practicing, then it starts coming inside your other 24 hours.
It starts helping you in other parts of your life where this silence can give you that this mysterious personality rather than.
somebody who is an open book. And it can be a very good tool for, you know, when you negotiate
where you can have your words and we have to speak sometimes. You don't want to be silent in
an interview. So there is a role of, you know, speaking as well. But at least you can think about it
before you speak. And that little extra pause will give you as famously many people, you know,
Many famous people have been people who are silent or more often more silent than many others.
Being proactive versus reactive.
You know, absolutely.
It does percolate.
You know, it also, as you said, mindfulness and awareness, those things also become part of it.
Because when you are silent, you are more of an observer.
So you can observe yourself.
You can observe others.
and be more mindful.
It just adds to your general personality and day-to-day life.
We spoken on the phone last week,
and I'm having a little trouble still grasping this
because I get it confused with almost similar to mindfulness practices,
such as box breathing, right,
that in my own time to help me do the things that I need to do and be aware of what's going on.
From the outside looking,
and how can we differentiate between mindfulness and intermittent silence?
So mindfulness is a part of, I mean, you need your, so mind has two parts.
One is minding and the other is mindfulness, at least in my description.
That's how I describe in my relax app.
and, you know, in my mind.
So mind has two components.
One is minding and the other is the mindfulness.
Mindfulness is something that you need.
And minding is something that you want to give rest to.
And how do you give minding the rest is by just...
So I said four components.
So one is, you know, close your mouth.
The second one is close your eyes.
Third one is become a silent listener.
So any sound that is surrounding you, any sound, there is no sound is a distraction.
And you just listen to it without processing it, without giving any weight to it, without judging it.
Let it just pass through.
And your thoughts, which is the part of the minding, let it also pass through, just be an observer to it.
So all these four steps are there.
Mindfulness is like a camera, camcorder.
You can turn it on, you can turn it off.
So in these 10 minutes, yes, you want your mindfulness to be there
so that you record something that's watching your silence.
That observer is the mindfulness.
So yes, mindfulness comes into play,
but the silent part has those four structured components.
Is this practice set up for a specific target audience?
I don't know if there is a target audience because it is going to help all of us.
But I have been working to see if I can get it into schools and younger age group.
As one of my friends, you know, he's a CEO of a construction company.
It's a large construction company.
I was talking to him about this.
And he said, wait a minute.
when we were in school, sometimes our teachers will come and say, put your head down and five minutes of quiet time.
When they were in school, this is something a little more structured, but that's what it is, quiet time with yourself.
And if it becomes a component in school system or a younger age group when you start practicing, you can build your personality accordingly.
and have that silence component in your life
because most of the time we're very busy.
We are busy either talking to somebody
or watching movies or with our cell phone.
We have structured our lives
so that silence doesn't come into play
in most of our lives.
I really do agree with you on that.
Can we rewind a little bit?
You were talking about the,
it's almost like,
a ripple from this practice. As long as we stay consistent and consecutive, we can start to see the
benefits. What benefits have you seen? So the benefits, of course, is as we talked about,
you know, your responses to emails or conversations, those or negotiations. But the biggest
benefit I see is how you deal with emotional storms.
So this is a structured, like, you know, if you are practicing tennis, that's one thing.
You know, you have a practice game with your coach or with your friend.
But when you go in a match, it's a totally different situation.
So the same thing, you practice in a controlled environment, but when an emotional storm comes,
like when you become angry or when you become frustrated or you are down, dejected,
you can somehow, if you have practiced this for some time,
you can have that a little separation between your emotions and yourself.
You may be able to see that gap.
And the moment you see your emotional storms,
as if you are seeing it from outside,
somehow it tries to fade away or it reduces its bite or sting.
And sometimes you may want to use anger, but then that's a different thing.
You're not under the control of anger, but you are controlling the anger.
Definitely understand you on a very deep level with that.
I continuously work in my own time on my routines I do in the morning.
and when I don't do my routines,
I can see and feel a difference in my reactive state
when I'm having a conversation with somebody.
If they say something I don't agree with,
it's like an automatic response.
No, I don't agree.
But when I do mindfulness practices,
I'm able to,
I can feel the transparency within my own thoughts,
kind of like halting me,
like, hold on.
Try to look at it from their point of view because I control my emotions.
Exactly.
Can you give our listeners a snapshot on your history where you grew up and how that led
into the medical field and then how did it lead the medical field lead into the creation
of your most recent book that's been out and your app?
So yeah, I mean, I grew up in India in a small village.
And one of the things, of course, you know, when we grow up, you know, you want to be something.
And my mother had this dream.
She wanted me to be a doctor and somehow it translated into a reality.
So, and I specialize in robotic surgery and urology.
So I've been in practice for a long time.
time. That's the doctor's path, but at the same time, I was very interested from the beginning
in spirituality or exploring myself, I would say, because sometimes spirituality and religion
kind of get mixed up, but it's more of a exploration. I mean, deeper inside, why do we exist
or where do we go when we die? And these conversations happen many times.
and we just let it pass.
So I did, even when I was in medical school, when I first joined, I was more into meditation.
And of course, I did the medicine.
I did well in that.
But I spent a lot of time doing meditation or going to, yeah, I met a lot of so-called, you know, spiritual gurus.
And learned a lot in doing that.
and meditation camps, like a week or 10 days camps.
It was life was good.
Yeah.
With this time that you spent doing these meditation practices, was that for your own benefit?
Yes and no.
I mean, I did it because I enjoyed it.
But yes, it did benefit me.
One of the things, Greg, it's hard to prove.
But if you are on to a path, which is, you know, like not only meditation, but anything you want to do good in the world, somehow the universe kind of aligns with you, supports you.
You may not see that obviously.
It's because you can't have a side-by-side comparison.
But I totally believe that it does happen.
So, yes, it helped me in both sides.
That's what I was trying to say.
it helped me spiritually, but also it helped me grow and be a good doctor.
I like that, that the universe just aligns in the way that it's supposed to be
if you're consistent with your passions, with your desired outcome.
And a lot of us, we can't really see that unless we look back on it.
At least I've noticed that with the average person.
they can kind of see it from looking back.
But with people who practice this mindfulness,
intermittent silence,
it's like you can almost see the play-by-play happening in the present moment
where you're allowed,
you're able to detach from your body and kind of see the direction you're going
or the direction you could be going if you stay consistent with these practices.
Greg, you know, that's very nicely put.
And new doors do open and new experiences do happen.
So it's not like there is an end point of mindfulness or end point of meditation.
It depends upon which direction of meditation you are taking.
One of the meditation described in our app, Relax with 2X and R-E-L-L-A-X-X.
So you can go to relax.org and download the app.
But one of the meditation I really love is called Yoga Nidra,
which is a conscious deep sleep.
And it sounds contradictory.
How can you be conscious when you are deep sleep?
But it is, it is a real phenomenon.
And somehow if you get into that,
you can use that yoga nidra.
or you can use your sleep to brainstorm and some new ideas can come there.
And so you are sleeping, your sleep is surrounding you, sleep is toddling you all around.
But still you are aware you can use your mind to process things.
Of course, you are not moving.
You're not keeping your eyes open.
But at the same time, you can use your brain as you want.
I mean, you can just not do anything or you can think about something.
And many of my thoughts and things that have come up have come up from there.
So with that app, which is excellent transition, I want to get to the book here in a second.
With this app, are you saying that it helps me sleep and works my brain at the same time?
Can you explain what's plain when I'm in my REM sleep or REM cycle, I should say?
So REM sleep and those are the, of course, scientific descriptions of sleep,
REM and non-REM.
But this one is a, like, there is a practice and there is a whole process in the app.
So just before you go to sleep, you just switch it on it, it will guide you through,
take your sleep and you keep a portion of your awareness going through with you in the sleep.
So then you will suddenly see that the sleep, I mean, if you do a practice, I mean, it took me a month
when I started feeling this. You really go there and then you see the sleep coming and
surrounding you. Sleep is not something you can force upon yourself. I mean, we create situation.
we lie down, we put the comforter on, we switch off the light.
So you create a surrounding where sleep happens to you.
In the same way, meditation happens to you, these things you cannot force on yourself.
You can just prepare the grounds for you.
So when the sleep comes, it really, you can feel the sleep, beautiful feeling.
And if I can get it, you can get it.
So it's nothing, you know, no magic to it.
It's a question of practicing.
for a certain amount of time.
And it's about half an hour, 45 minute meditation.
So it takes you through down there.
And then you just are there.
And you find that your awareness has now gone deeper.
So it's not like conscious, subconscious and unconscious.
You can take your awareness down there.
Interesting.
And you still be fresh with the sleep.
So it's not like you are disturbing the sleep.
You just can experience the sleep in a way that you have never experienced before.
That's really interesting.
What's the name of that app called again?
The app is Relax, R-E-L-A-X-X.
And in that, there are several meditations.
There are many chakra-based meditation, but one of the meditation is called Yoga Nidra.
Yoga Nidra is basically yogic sleep.
How does that play out?
So yeah, I mean, there is a music and it guides you, it takes you through the, so you just follow the, you know, the instructions and the music, just flow with the flow and do it for every night for, I mean, you will go to sleep every night, right?
So just before going to sleep, go with the music, go with this meditation.
And one of the thing about any of these meditations, Greg,
and I always mention this, this is a very old book called Bhagavad Gita or Gita, in short.
And in that book, Krishna asks Arjun, that's about 5,000 years ago,
how do I control my mind?
You know, this mind is always wavering and going all places.
And his answer was so beautiful.
I love that answer.
He says practice, Arjun practice.
So there's nothing better than practice.
You know, it's like we practice,
and I always say tennis or golf to be good.
The same way you practice meditation
to get to where you want to go.
And, you know, you will always experience something new
and something deeper.
One of the mistakes that happens, Greg, in meditation,
and I'm sure in mindfulness,
is like you have experienced something beautiful
and you want that back.
You want that to happen again.
And somehow the more you want,
the less it's likely to happen.
So just let new experiences come.
For those that have trouble sleeping,
I'm guilty of that.
I'm trying to get back on my routine in some time I get sidetracked or I think I might stay out 24 hours to catch up on my work when reality that isn't going to do me any good but do more harm.
Would that help me get back on track?
Yes. Yes, it will.
With a little point that I want to mention here is that it basically improves the quality of sleep, not the quantity of sleep.
So when you do a lot of meditation, you may not sleep or may not need that many hours of sleep,
but what you get is, you know, complete, a relaxation or refreshing life before and after.
So I won't say that you will sleep longer, but whatever you sleep, the quality will be really amazing.
with the practice, is there a right way to practice?
I guess that's kind of like a, that's kind of a loading in here.
There are many meditations.
One thing I believe that you should have a meditation package.
Like if you do practice a yoga nidra, practice it for two or three months.
Because that's one thing.
But in the morning you can have another meditation.
Like there is a meditation there called Power Chakra.
So I'm the first one, as far as I know, who has taken mantras and put it, you know, associated with chakra.
So this power chakra meditation, I wouldn't do it at night because that might, you may not sleep well because it creates so much of an energy.
But yeah, you can do power chakra in the morning.
You can do yoga nidra at night or you can do mindfulness, you know, in the morning for 10 minutes.
and all these meditations or mindfulness practice or intermittent silence,
you do it for short intervals, but their effect lasts maybe whole day or a week.
But you still need to practice to stay really.
The funny thing is that once you start doing it, it kind of becomes addictive.
Like I have been meditating and I know I love that and I keep doing it.
That brings me to my next question as far as somebody who doesn't practice this way of fitness.
I'll say with fitness, it's a mental consistency.
But is intermittent silence a rigid theory or is there data to back up its claims?
So intermittent silence is a new.
terminology that I started. So there may not be a lot of data based on intermittent silence,
but there is a lot of work done on silence itself. And that silence was not that structured.
So yes, I mean, if you Google silence, there is a lot of videos and articles on that.
intermittent silence should not be much different because it's a more structured way of
practicing silence.
You said structure.
I think that's very important way of thinking when it just comes down to personal development
within mindfulness, within intermittent silence, within physical fitness during like a
workout.
If you structure the application, it can be.
very beneficial.
True.
There is another way to look at it, Greg.
All these things that we talk about, like silence or being proactive or responding properly
can be taught to us and our mind will learn by discipline.
And that's what we do.
Many courses, there are many courses out there have to be successful and there have five
points or ten points that we all learn.
So what is the difference?
I mean, why should we do intermittent silence or meditation or mindfulness?
So the difference is here.
I can be silent.
I can impose silence on you, myself.
Suppose we are talking about silence.
So I can read about silence.
I can practice silence.
I can just become that.
But what intermittent silence or meditation will do is that it will grow from inside.
So it's no more imposed.
silence, now silence grows from within you. So there are people who are successful and they have
never practiced intermittent silence or meditation. But they have learned or trained their mind to be
the same by imposing on themselves. You see the difference I'm saying?
Is that they gotten successful through their actions, through their hard work,
but they sacrificed their own vitality or their own well-being of that success.
They got everything they wanted.
They're just not happy inside.
Yeah, because it didn't grow with them.
They imposed it on themselves.
So there is some sort of kind of, you know, pressure they put on themselves to get to where they were.
The app talks about, you know, the app talks about.
it and I generally talk about that we or most people talk about body and mind.
There is another component which I call the flame or the flame of consciousness.
We all have a body, a mind and an individual consciousness, not the general cosmic consciousness,
but we all have individual consciousness.
So these three elements, we focus on body and mind.
we ignore the flame of consciousness.
Some of us are born with a higher flame of consciousness and don't burn out,
but there are people who don't have that same level of consciousness
and they don't work on it, but they have worked a tremendously or high amount
for the body and mind, which has brought the success to them,
but their flame has been left behind, and that's what you are saying,
that portion is out of sync.
Very well put and interesting.
Is that from your writing?
I came across your book and it really grabs my attention,
Journey from Life to Life?
No, this part is not mentioned in Journey from Life to Life,
but it is in the app.
And I have a new book coming out,
which is Heart of Intermittent Silence and Meditation.
So that's going to put, you know, many of these things in that.
I'll be sure to link all everything that you've spoken about in the show notes for our audience to be able to click the link to.
Thank you, Greg.
Thanks for giving me this platform.
So is there any steps that we can start applying intermittent silence to our daily life for those that are nonbelievers, but those who are the innovators that love,
to eat this stuff up, that love that 1% change in their overall well-being?
So for believers and non-believers, I have only one simple advice, Greg, mind, be friends with
your mind because mind is going to be with you, whether you like it or not. Don't call it
names. Because whatever you want to do, mind has to agree first.
It has to give you the permission that, okay, now you can go and meditate,
or now you can go and practice intermittent silence,
or you can go and eat good food.
So be friends with mind.
Don't think of mind as adversary, which many of us start thinking at times.
I like that.
Is there any general guidelines that we can give our listeners
so they can start this process of adding intermittent silence into their lives.
Yeah.
I mean, you can add intermittent silence in many spaces.
You know, like if you are flying, I mean, in COVID times, we are not flying.
So you are flying.
You are in the plane 10 minutes.
You can put that timer on in a relax app and it will guide you through the 10 minutes.
You are waiting on the airport.
I mean, you can just close your eyes and be.
mindful about it.
I'd like to do it
when I'm hiking or if I'm going
to the coast of Maine
I'll find a bench or a rock
and lie down 10 minutes and
put this
little timer on and
10 minutes of silence, listen to
the breeze, the
leaves rustling, the birds
chirping, waves
crashing. I mean, those sounds really, the nature sounds help you go deeper in your intermittent
silence. Are you an outside kind of person, doctor? I love to. I love hiking. I love, I mean,
I'm a bad golfer, but I love golfing. I have the reason why I asked, I came across one of your
videos you were giving to a class and it caught my attention when
I believe this is the first time you came to Missouri was on your honeymoon and you happen to stop by this park.
And it's just kind of funny because it's like out of all the places, that's where I grew up and that's where I currently live.
So there is a different Missouri in India.
Oh, wow.
It's a hill station.
That was my honeymoon.
Oh.
So not Missouri here.
But yeah, that was a, yeah, we love that place.
We still go back sometimes.
Excellent.
I really do like that.
But as we begin to close, could you prescribe some good advice for our listeners to start implementing today?
Well, you know, try to make it simple.
That's my advice.
So if you are practicing intermittent silence, you can do it.
as we talked about, you know, different spaces where you want to do it.
For mindfulness, you can do it right in the morning when you wake up, you know,
just 10 minutes, live life in slow motion.
But it's always good to do any of these practices, same time, same place, and same duration.
Because somehow that place and time starts waiting for you.
You will start feeling that, that, you know, it's calling happening from within.
as if, you know, the time, place, and the space it starts working with you and you
just become part of the whole universe rather than just be an isolated island.
Sometimes I like being in isolation.
I'm an introvert, so I've always noticed myself kind of fading into the distance from crowds
because I like that peace.
I don't like to be around chaos.
So introvert is okay
But introvert can still be part of the universe
Rather than an island
So I didn't mean
Be part of the universe
Is like you have to be outgoing
You have to socialize, you have to go party
You can be with yourself
But the trees
The wind
The sound
I mean
Just expand your be your inner self
to fill the room as you know or fill the house or fill the you know whole entire surrounding you see what
I'm saying yes you're still introvert but still you are not a small introvert you know I like that
no it's like allowing yourself to be yourself and embracing your vulnerabilities as your
authentic self that's that's a beautiful way to put it yeah thank you a weird question
question in a run-on statement, there are roughly 8 billion people on this planet. If you had a chance
to connect with them and out of those people, people who are capable of getting an email and
responding, what would you send to each one of those individuals? Spend some time with yourself.
and that could be intermittent silence, that could be mindfulness, that could be meditation,
but get into the habit of spending that five minutes or ten minutes a day with yourself.
Be an introvert for 10 minutes, you know.
And somehow it's going to transform your life.
For our listeners, how can they get in touch with you and where can they find this app
and learn more about your upcoming books.
So on my website, relax with 2X,
r-E-L-A-X-X-O-R-G.
There is download link for the app.
There is also a contact form.
And please do encourage your listeners to send me a contact question or whatever.
And I'll try to respond.
Excellent.
That's fantastic.
and that that is everything.
I really do appreciate you coming on the show.
No, thank you.
Thank you for having me.
It was very nice to talk to you before this show,
and of course, nice to be here.
Krishna, I really do appreciate your time.
All righty, I'll be in touch with you.
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We hope you enjoyed the show,
and we hope you've gotten some useful and practical information.
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Until then, this is your transformation station, signing off.
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