Your World Tonight - Another Tory MP out, ostrich farm cull, U.S. cuts flights, finding cancer in your genes, and more

Episode Date: November 6, 2025

Conservative MP Matt Jeneroux resigns from Parliament. His decision didn’t come with an explanation. It makes it more likely the Liberals will be able to pass the federal budget in a few weeks. Also: The CFIA moves in to cull an ostrich herd in B.C., after a fight that went all the way to the Supreme Court.And: The U.S. government shutdown could have an effect on your travel plans. Airports at major hubs across the U.S. are cutting the number of flights starting tomorrow. The Federal Aviation Administration says, because of the shutdown, air traffic controllers are working without pay. And many have not been coming in to work.Plus: Researchers will test a hundred thousand people in Ontario to see if they carry genes that put them at a higher risk of cancer and heart disease, COP30 begins in Brazil, will a boost in funding for school meals be enough, and more.

Hey, I'm Sarah Marshall, and there's one story from the past that I've been circling around for years now. This eight-part series traces the hidden history of the satanic panic in North America. We'll connect the dots from Victoria, BC, to the backroads of Kentucky. Satan was having a moment, the sensationalist heartthrob of our time. The Devil You Know, available now wherever you get your podcasts. This is a CBC podcast. Her family will never get these animals back, and Canada will never get these animals.

Shame on you. The emotions deeply felt. The issue complex, and a decision from Canada's highest court signals the end for hundreds of birds at BC's Universal Ostrich Farm. A necessary step, according to health officials, to prevent the spread of avian influenza.

But it's also a step that is leading to angry reaction at the farm and as far away as Washington, D.C. Welcome to Your World Tonight. I'm Susan Bonner. It is Thursday, November 6th, just before 6 p.m. Eastern, also on the podcast. Well, I almost canceled my trip because I was like, I don't even know what's going to happen.

And then I just decided, all right, we're just going to go for it and see what happens. But yeah, it's just all unexpected. I'm just sick of it. The question of when the U.S. government will start working again is up in the air, meaning planes won't be. Air traffic controllers and TSA agents have been working for weeks without pay. Their union says that cannot go on indefinitely, so the Trump administration says it will start reducing flights at some of the busiest airports, just as the busiest travel days of the year draw near.

But we begin in Ottawa, where the government faces confidence. votes on its budget, and another member of the Conservative Caucus makes a big announcement. The day after a conservative MP crossed the floor, the party is losing another one tonight. Alberta MP Matt Jenneru is resigning. It comes with the fate of the federal budget riding on some razor-sharp margins in the House of Commons. The CBC's Tom Perry is in our Parliament Entry Bureau tracking the story for us, Tom, what do we know? Well, we know, Susan, that Matt Jenneroo, the member of parliament for Edmonton, Riverbend, has sent out a letter.

I'll read you some of what he said in this letter. He says, I ran in the last election, hopeful that Canadians would put their faith in a team led by Pierre Polyev's conservatives, offering a chance to change Canada's perception in our own country and around the world. I wanted desperately to play a role in that vision. He goes on to say, although the outcome was not what I anticipated, I have a chance. I have great admiration for the many remarkable individuals who are elected to the House of Commons on both sides of the aisle who continue to dedicate themselves to the betterment of our nation. And then he goes on to say, with all this in mind, earlier today I spoke with our opposition whip to inform him of my decision to resign as a member of parliament.

It was not an easy decision, but it is, I believe, the right one. So that's Matt Jenneroo, the conservative MP for Edmonton Riverbend, announcing that he's, resigning. Now, the significance of this is that Met Genru was rumored to be one of the conservative MPs considering crossing the floor to join the liberal government. We saw Chris Dantremaugh, the former now, now former conservative MP from Nova Scotia, make that decision cross the floor to join the government this week. We saw Dantrema at an event with Prime Minister Mark Carney here in Ottawa yesterday talking about how he came to his decision, just saying that really he wasn't really in keeping.

with what Pierre Pauliev was saying. Saying as well, though, that there were others. He believed there were other members of the Conservative Caucus who were considering switching sides. He didn't name names. But of course, there have been rumors afoot everywhere now in Ottawa about who those other members might be. And now we've seen Matt Jenneru from Edmonton Riverbend announcing today that he's going to resign as a member of parliament. And so the implications of this, Tom, where does it leave the debate and the upcoming vote about the federal budget? Well, with Dantramat joining the Liberals this week, that put the Liberals within two seats, two votes of a majority in the House of Commons. And so, as you mentioned, the margins are very tight in the votes going ahead.

In a minority parliament, of course, the liberals will need some, a couple of opposition MPs to either support their budget or at least abstain, not vote against it. We saw the first votes tonight in the House of Commons. These are on sub-amendments put forward by opposition parties to the budget bill. The new Democrat said, said going into tonight's vote, that they would vote with the government on these sub-amendments. These are put forward by the conservatives, by the Block Quebecois, saying they weren't going to support that. The question is, though, what happens when the actual budget comes before the House? The interim NDP leader, Don Davies, has said he hasn't said which way the party's going to go, but with seven members in the House, the NDP could be the difference.

And Tom, I can't let you go without asking you about the possible implications for the leadership of Pierre Pauliev. It's hard to say at this point, you know, he's going to be facing a leadership vote coming up in Calgary in just a few months. This is not a great week for the conservative leader. This was a week when the conservatives were hoping to be pushing back against the liberals bringing down this government's first budget. Now Pierre Polyev has got all sorts of questions that he himself is going to answer. answer when really he'd rather be putting questions to the government on its budget. Tom Perry in Ottawa, thank you so much. Thank you.

Canada's Supreme Court says it will not hear an appeal to stop the culling of birds at a BC ostrich farm. The birds were ordered to be killed nearly a year ago because of avian flu and concerns of widespread infection. The court's announcement follows months of protests, legal challenges, and international attention. Tanya Fletcher. has the latest. Tears and anger at the Universal ostrich farm.

It's where two birds tested positive for avian flu last December. Now, under the watchful eye of RCMP officers, health officials in hazmat suits move in. Nestled in the small mountain community of Edgewood, the flock of some 300 ostriches outnumber residents. It's where dozens of people have been camped out for weeks, some months to support the family farm. Early this morning, less than an hour

after the country's highest court decided not to hear the case, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency put out a statement confirming it will proceed with the call. In 41 minutes, they made that decision. Katie Pasitney speaks for the farm, daughter of one of the owners. There's no respect here for an agency that's gone rogue and has gross amounts of freedom.

In the past year, this case has garnered an international spotlight. U.S. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. lobbying the CFIA not to go ahead with the call. Also support from celebrity doctor and former TV host Dr. Oz, who's offered to shelter the ostriches at his Florida ranch. And American billionaire John Castamatidis, who's bankrolling the farm's legal defense. I think there should be a thorough investigation. He's among the supporters trying to make a scientific argument that the remaining ostriches likely have antibodies and should instead be used for research. Today, he appealed to the Canadian government to pardon those ostriches. I am concerned about bureaucracies that don't have, how do you say it, checks and balances.

Meanwhile, in the House of Commons, Madam Speaker, there are over 40,000 signatures. Conservative MP Scott Anderson, who represents the riding where the farm is, this week presented a petition to save the ostriches. As for BC Premier David Eby, he's been critical of the CFIA, expressing frustration over the agency's refusal to reconsider the call. Canada had to proceed this way. Jean-Pier-Veyancourt is a professor at the University of Montreal's Veterinary School. He says Canada has signed a treaty with the World Organization for Animal Health, meaning it's agreed on specific measures like calls when it comes to controlling avian flu.

These birds were not in an environment over the past several months where we could guarantee that they would not be exposed to the virus. Still, back at the farm, the reasoning doesn't resonate. We are not a commercial poultry facility. We are an ostrich farm with 35-year-old animals and animals that have names. Owners can be compensated when a call happens, up to $3,000 per bird. But for this family, they say they've already lost everything. Daniel Fletcher, CBC News, Vancouver.

Flights are being canceled at airports across the U.S., including New York, Los Angeles, and Atlanta, some of the busiest, biggest transit hubs. The travel chaos is related to a shortage of air traffic controllers, thanks to a federal government shutdown that started more than a month ago. Chris Reyes explains. When we see pressures building in these 40 markets, we just can't ignore it. That's Brian Bedford, the administrator for the Federal Aviation Administration, explaining why they're cutting flights at 40 American airports

in response to the U.S. government shutdown. Democrats and Republicans have been unable to reach a deal to fund the government and keep it open. We're not going to wait for a safety problem to truly manifest itself when the early indicators are telling us we can take action today to prevent things from deteriorating. Air traffic controllers are on the federal payroll. They're required to go to work without a paycheck, but many are not showing up. And those who do are stressed out, says Nick Daniels, president of the National Air Traffic Controllers Association. The stresses, the pressure, the fatigue is setting in, air traffic controllers are texting. I don't even have enough money to put gas in my car to come to work.

Starting Friday at some of the busiest airports in the U.S., including New York, Chicago, and L.A. The FAA will reduce flight capacity by 4% to start and could go up to 10% by next week, affecting some 3,500 to 4,000 flights a day. For now, international flights are exempt and the cuts will be limited to the hours of 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. Some travelers are understanding of the situation, but also worried about their own plans. Marcia Francis lives in Atlanta, the busiest airport in the U.S. I have kids traveling from New York, D.C., and Boston for Thanksgiving. I'm just hoping for safety, first of all, and timeliness.

John Chirard, a pilot in Houston, says it's not just air traffic controllers and travelers who are affected. Once they start canceling flights, closing down air spaces, it's, going to further hinder the workload on pilots and crew to make sure that we can get from point A to point B safely. We show every step along the way where that plane is today, where it's stopping, if it's delayed in those stops. Paul Bernardini is in the business of giving travelers important information. He's the marketing director for the app, Flighty, his advice.

The thing that I always personally like to do is like to book directly with the airline. You'll always get better support. Having that frequent flyer program and account already set up and managed, that is helpful. A traveling public feeling mostly helpless. They need to figure their stuff out. So far, no end in sight to the government shutdown. At 37 days, it's now the longest in U.S. history. Chris Reyes, CBC News, New York.

Coming right up, trying to detect cancer before it spreads, the key could be genetic testing. Also, Quebec's bill, too, is creating a rift between the province and its doctors, which is a potential boon for neighboring province. Many world leaders are meeting in Brazil to prep for COP 30, the upcoming conference on climate change, but there are some notable absences, and later we'll have this story. I'm Deanna Sumanak Johnson in Toronto. School meals for all of Canada students permanently, one of the big promises from the new federal budget,

but school food program so far has left some hungry for more. So to be honest, we are still waiting to get our funding, you know, portions. being increased. Coming up on your world tonight, how to get kids across Canada equal access to food at school. Canada's largest cancer center is launching a massive study hoping to test the DNA of thousands of patients, looking for genetic risks for cancer and other diseases. Jennifer Yoon breaks down the science and how researchers hope it could save lives. I had no idea this was brewing.

Leslie Bourne's family doesn't have a strong history of cancer. That's why she was astonished to find out she had a mutation in the Brackett 2 gene, putting her at higher risk of several cancers. I don't have a lot of regrets in my life, but that is the one piece of information or thing I wish I had known. Born's ovarian cancer had already spread to several parts of her body by that point. If she had known about the mutation earlier, Bourne says she would have gotten her ovaries removed. This is where DNA samples are put into. Now, researchers are trying a new way to inform more people like Born of their risk before a cancer diagnosis.

Dr. Richard Kim is leading a new study, which aims to screen 100,000 people over the next five years, analyzing their genomes, meaning the whole set of DNA in the human body. The whole genetics community is actually looking at how to roll out genomic sequencing across larger populations than the traditional ones. Kim will be testing for three genetic conditions, mutations in the brackage gene associated with breast and ovarian cancer, Lynch syndrome associated with colorectal cancer, and familial hypercholestrolemia, which often has no symptoms until a heart attack or stroke. Some of these genetic changes have personalized drugs that, um, can be used to target the specific genetic change. Like for BRCA, it's PARP inhibitors.

For Lynch syndrome, it's immunotherapy. The first population being tested, cancer patients at the Princess Margaret Cancer Center. Only about a quarter received genetic testing now, chemistamates. By knowing their genetic makeup, doctors could screen for other cancers and identify family members who are at risk. Our traditional methods of referral of high-risk families are definitely missing the majority of at-risk individuals. More genetic tests would help.

No question, says Laura Palmer, a genetic counselor. But that takes a lot of people, analyzing and interpreting the results, then relaying it to patients and families. Expanding screening will require more investment. And studies like Kim's would give a sense of just how much. Genetics is a freckle in the health care system. We are a very, very small subspecialty of medicine. So we just don't have the human resources.

But the knowledge can also be life-changing for patients. I'm not sitting in the dark anymore. Like for Leslie Bourne, she's now getting screened more often and living cancer-free. Shout off for Yun. CBC News, Toronto. Quebec's controversial new doctors bill is being challenged in court. Physicians are pushing to pause parts of the law. They say it unfairly forces them to fix a health care system undermined by years of provincial neglect. Alison Northcott breaks it down for us.

There was no longer any even drop of hope that something could improve. For years, Dr. Trevor Hennessy has been pushing the Quebec government for more resources for health care in Western Quebec. Now, with the province's new law, he says he's hit a breaking point. It's just disrespectful and essentially just trying to pass the buck for their failings in terms of providing the resources necessary. That's why Hennessy has quit his job as head of the health region's anesthesiologist. Department. It's the kind of departure Quebec's doctors' federations have been warning about since the government fast-tracked its law through the legislature changing the way doctors are paid. It ties part of their compensation to performance targets like emergency room wait times.

And if doctors use certain pressure tactics to protest the changes, they could be fined. Quebec's medical specialists have called the law draconian and are challenging it in court. The Quebec government says the law is meant to improve access to care and protect patients. Earlier this week, the province said it would suspend parts of the law to try to bring the medical federations back to the table. France-Eleine Durantso is Quebec's Treasury Board Secretary. I think it's important. We're doing that for the Quebecers and also for the doctors. We need them. We need them to work in an environment that is positive and peaceful.

Nothing is done. Me and my two young children, seven and five years old, we're going to lose our doctor. But Camille Cosette Girard says for her, the damage is already done. She recently learned her doctor plans to leave her family medicine clinic in Beconcou, northeast of Montreal, because of the new law. This means that we will have to get back on the waiting list to hopefully have a doctor. And until then, if we do not, every small sickness will have to go to the emergency.

Other provinces have been looking to recruit doctors looking to leave. Lebe Numekavours with Brandt Community Health Care System in Brantford, Ontario, which put out a recruitment ad aimed at doctors in Quebec. With the recent changes in Quebec, people had already been reaching out to us looking for opportunities, and so we were just looking to be able to respond to those requests and be able to provide information to the individuals that were already sort of looking for opportunities outside of the area.

The Quebec government says it hopes to resume discussions with the Doctors' Federations and to find a way forward. Alison Northcott, CBC News, Montreal. A man has pleaded guilty to killing six people in a mass stabbing in Ottawa last year. February de Zoisa admitted to four counts of first-degree murder, two counts of second-degree murder and one charge of attempted murder. Four of his victims were children.

The international student from Sri Lanka lived with a family of Sri Lanka newcomers at the time of the murders. He has been automatically sentenced to life in prison. The Supreme Court has agreed to hear a case on Saskatchewan's school pronouns law. The law prevents children under 16 from changing their names or pronouns at school without consent from a parent. The province says parents should be involved in their children's decisions at school. An LGBT group challenging the law says it causes harm to gender diverse youth. With global temperatures rising and interest from one of the world's most powerful leaders on the decline,

the COP 30 climate conference is getting underway in Brazil. The United States did not send a delegation, but officials from nearly 200 other countries are in the Brazilian rainforest looking for climate change solutions at a challenging time. Susan Ormiston is there. President Lula, you have called this the COP of Truth. I could not agree more. And the hard truth is that we have failed to ensure we remain below 1.5 degrees.

The UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres says the world has missed the target set 10 years ago in Paris, where countries pledged to try to limit the rise in global warming to 1.5 degrees. After decades of climate negotiations and pledges, he said people demand direct action to battle climate change. Every fraction of a degree means more hunger, displacement and loss, especially for those least responsible. This is moral failure and deadly negligence.

Host Brazil opened the 30th global climate conference in Berlin today in a tough geopolitical landscape. For the first time since cop gatherings began 30 years ago, the U.S. is not sending a high-level delegation. U.S. President Trump has been openly hostile towards international climate action. Prime Minister Mark Carney, a former UN envoy for climate finance, is also not coming. His offer says because of the looming federal budget vote. For the first time in history, a climate cope will take place in the heart of the Amazon. Brazil's president, Luis Inacio Lula de Silva, through a translator, says this cop must address a gap between diplomatic talk and the real world. People cannot understand what are emissions or metric tons of carbon, but everybody knows how they feel pollution.

President Lula brought the world here in part to highlight the Amazon. Today he launched a new fund, the Tropical Forest Forever Facility. Proceeds from the fund's investments would be distributed to countries and indigenous peoples to help preserve rainforest and slow deforestation. But an initial $25 billion has been tough to raise a disappointing start. We've seen initiatives come out of cops that have had real impact and others that have kind of dwindle it away. David Wasco at the World Resources Institute says Belen will test the capacity for international collaboration at a time of divisive politics, trade disputes, and economic pressures.

Where we go from here is countries really grapple with, how do they work together? What is the international cooperation to take even further action on climate change? The urgency illustrated once again in a year of extreme weather with super storms, lashing the Philippines and Vietnam this week and last week, Hurricane Melissa, made six times more severe because of climate change. Susan Ormiston, CBC News, Belaine, Brazil. This is Your World Tonight from CBC News. If you want to make sure you stay up to date and never miss one of our episodes, follow us on Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts. Just find the follow button and lock us in.

The two new teams in the Professional Women's Hockey League now have names. The Vancouver Golden Eyes and Seattle Torrent. The Golden Eyes and Torrent will play their first game against each other. November 21st in Vancouver, there are now eight teams in the league. The Toronto Blue Jays run to the World Series captured the imagination of Canadians. The team lost in a thrilling game seven to the Los Angeles Dodgers, a game that drew more than 10 million viewers here. here in Canada and more than 50 million worldwide.

Today, the architects of that Jay's team held their post-season news conference. Team President Mark Shapiro says he couldn't believe the number of signs he saw supporting the team or the number of Blue Jay's flags he saw flying from porches around the country. When you think about giving your life to working in sports, you do so for the moments that you think

you might be able to lift a community. But you never imagine what it could mean to lift a community coast to coast. Not just to raise spirits, but to unite people. Not just to give people a reason to cheer, but to give people a reason to feel better about everything going on in the world right now. The Jays begin their 2026 season at home,

hosting the athletics on March 26th. Up until last year, Canada was the only G7 country without a national school food program. When it was introduced, the federal government committed to supporting it for five years. If the latest budget passes in Parliament, the program will become permanent. Deanna Sumanak Johnson reports. Money from the federal government that they can count on year after year would be welcome for school breakfast programs like at this Toronto school, run by local charity.

Kadeja Sheikh is the executive director at Albion Neighborhood Services. This community is underserved, low-income families, newcomer families. A lot of the schools, you know, do reach out to us, want to start an after-school or breakfast club program. Schools they hope to reach with a new federal budget pledge to make the funding for the National School Food Program permanent, starting in 2029. The current federal school food funding program started in 2024, allocating $1 billion. over five years for school food across Canada. The National School Food Program funnels funding to the provinces, then to the already existing patchwork of charitable organizations

that run school meals across the country. In Ontario, the last province to sign on to the plan, Kadeja Sheikh is hopeful, but... To be honest, we are still waiting to get our funding, you know, a portion being increased. But in provinces like Newfoundland, the federal bucks have been a real boon. John Finn is the Executive Director of School Lunch Association, one of the biggest meal providers in the province.

As the program continues to roll out with help from the federal government's national school food program, we anticipate reaching approximately half of the 63,000 students in this current school year. The types of meals school serve also vary. In some places, it's a hot lunch in others, just fruit and yogurt snacks. Experts say what accounts for this difference is the size of the province and the complexity of how the funding flows down to the organizations, but also how much money gets contributed from the province and other sources. Amberly Ritz is a researcher at the University of Saskatchewan.

So I would encourage, you know, increase investment across all levels of government so that kids can more equally access school meal programs and eventually get to that robust lunch program. Ritz would also like to see the annual federal investment almost double to feed each and every child in Canada. Deanna Sumanack Johnson, CBC News, Toronto. Tonight, we'll leave you with what might be the most Canadian story ever told. Shawna McAllister will tell it. She lives outside Clinton, British Columbia, surrounded by trees and wildlife. Still, she was surprised one morning when she looked out her window to check on her horses and saw...

With this big thing that looked like one of my horses but wasn't, so I just walked up to him in my, you know, pajamas. It was a young moose. who somehow got inside her horse paddock even though the gate was locked. But there was something about him that seemed depressed and sad. And I know that sounds strange, but I know animals. And then he dropped his head and started to lick his lips and his tongue was lolling out on either side. And I knew from other animals that that could be a sign of appeasement

that he wasn't going to harm me. And he just was so calm and accepted me. And it went right up to him and stood with him for a, maybe about 10, 15 minutes, and then I thought, okay, this is weird. McAllister gave the moose some water, watched as he took a nap, but she knew he had to leave. A police officer and a conservation officer showed up. They opened the gate and fired air rifle shots into the sky,

but the moose stayed put. So McAllister had an idea. She handed them a huge Canadian flag, which they waved at the moose until he started moving. But it still took a little more old-fashioned Canadian kindness to seal the deal. So then I walked back to him because he stopped and I said, come baby, follow Auntie, let's go. It's time to go. And he did.

And he walked right out of the street. And the police officer said, we got it from here. And I got pictures and videos of them just walking down the street with this beautiful giant behemoth between both of them, the Canada flag and little flecks of snow. The moose then slipped into the woods, and what could be more Canadian than that? Thank you for joining us. This has been your world tonight for Thursday, November 6th. I'm Susan Bonner. Talk to you again.

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