Your World Tonight - Carney in the Oval office, remembering October 7th, Blue Jays in NYC, and more

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

Prime Minister Mark Carney was at the White House today for an Oval Office reception and a working lunch on trade. Donald Trump certainly hinted there'd be good news for the prime minister on tariffs. But the letdown came quickly.And: Two years have passed since Hamas attacked Israel on October 7th killing over 1200 people. Memorials were held across Israel today. And Palestinians reflect on what two years of war has meant to them, upending their lives.Also: The Toronto Blue Jays are in New York. Canada’s team is strutting into Yankee Stadium, hoping to sweep the series.Plus: Accessing new cancer drugs more quickly in Ontario, October 7th protests in Canada, and more.

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But I think they're going to walk away very happy. As Mark Carney visits Washington aiming to ease the pressure from Donald Trump's crushing tariffs, The U.S. President suddenly sounds ready to make some deals. But what did Canada walk away with? Welcome to Your World Tonight. I'm Susan Bonner. It is Tuesday, October 7th, just before 6 p.m. Eastern, also on the podcast. He miss her so much.

She was the unicorn of the house. And her smile, her noise. In public ceremonies and private revolutions, Israel marks two years since the Hamas October 7th attacks. And among Israelis and Palestinians alike, there is new urgency for results from peace talks underway in Egypt to end the deadly conflict. The meeting was friendly, fawning even at times. Mark Carney was at the White House today for an oval office reception and a working. lunch with the U.S. President on trade? Donald Trump certainly hinted there'd be good news for the

Prime Minister on tariffs, but as Tom Perry reports, the letdown came quickly. I think he's a great Prime Minister. I mean, he could represent me any time. I will tell you. Donald Trump has made life miserable for some leaders who've sat down in his evermore gold-adorn oval office, berating and belittling them in front of the cameras. Mark Carney has so far got off easy, having seemingly won over the temperamental U.S. President. I can tell you this, because I deal with lots of leaders all over the world. He is a world-class leader. For his part, Kearney sat mostly silent as Trump fielded questions from reporters for more

than half an hour ahead of their working lunch, taking time, however, to heap praise on his host. You kindly hosted me and some of my colleagues a few months ago, and I said at the time, you are a transformative. President. The Prime Minister trying his best to steer the conversation back to the topic he came here to discuss, getting the U.S. to lift its tariffs on Canadian steel, aluminum, autos and lumber. We are the second largest trading partner of the United States. We do a lot of trade going across the border where we're cooperating, first thing. Secondly, we are the largest

foreign investor in the United States. Half a trillion dollars in the last five years alone, probably $8 trillion in the next five years if we get the agreement that we expect. But if Kearney was focused, Trump was all over the place. If we didn't win this election, if we had these people that were running, that were ruining our country, destroying our country with their open borders and men playing in women's sports and transgender from everybody and windmills all over the place, I don't, I'm not sure that we'd even have a country. Through it all, Carney and the small team of ministers who accompanied him chuckled discreetly, smiled politely, or sat stone-faced. Carney laughed along with the U.S. president and pushed back when he jokingly talked about a merger between Canada and the U.S. and listened intently as Trump offered hope that on trade, good news might be coming for Canada. I think they're going to be very happy. We have a lot of things that we're working on that people don't talk about.

When it was all over, Carney's minister of Canada U.S. trade, Dominic LeBlanc said the two sides had agreed to keep talking on some key sectors like steel, aluminum, and energy. would be obviously the first step that we hope to conclude quickly in what would then be a conversation that would allow us to make progress on other sectors as well. For now, though, not much has changed. U.S. tariffs remain in place, with new ones on lumber and heavy trucks set to land in the coming days and weeks. LeBlanc says talks continue, but results remain a work in progress. Tom Perry, CBC News, Washington.

With more now on the meeting, let's bring. in the CBC's Katie Simpson, who has been at the White House all day and has seen many foreign leaders visit the Oval Office. Katie, Mark Carney, and Donald Trump certainly seemed to be getting along just fine. What is that done for Canada? You know, this is the most positive we've heard Canadian officials speaking on the record about these negotiations, but really, it is a mixed bag here. At a service level, you can see that Trump likes Carney. He jokes with him. He gives him, a playful pat on the leg, complements him. It all suggests there's a really strong foundation. And today's meeting had the same energy as that first Oval Office meeting. And while

a productive relationship is necessary and it is helpful, what has it actually done to help Canada so far? Since that first Carney visit with all the compliments and the good energy, Canada's facing more tariffs, higher tariffs, and deadlines for a deal have been set and missed. And on top of that, Canada's even made a wide range of concessions, eliminating counterteriffs, killing the digital services tax, committing to billions of dollars in defense spending and fortifying the border. All goodwill gestures and what has it changed for the better? Talks may have more momentum in this moment, but there's still no tariff relief. Trump, again, he can treat Carney with more respect than he did, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. You know, just because someone smiles when

they hit you doesn't make the blow any less painful. Well, you mentioned that talks might have more momentum, there had been signals coming from government sources to you and to others at CBC that there would be more than momentum, that there would be actual movement on some of the key priority areas, maybe steel or aluminum. That did not happen today. So where does that leave the prime minister? Yeah, nothing was ever guaranteed, but there had been this sort of expectation. That was the phrase that was used by multiple sources to CBC News and Radio Canada, that Canada was going to see some limited tariff relief, particularly around steel and possibly aluminum.

And something between this weekend and today didn't go the way Canada had expected. So that is going to be a setback. The opposition was already hounding Prime Minister Carney leading up to this trip, saying they expected more than just lunch and a photo op. Unless something is announced soon, this will only add more pressure. And if tariffs remain as is or even get worse,

that is going to make the renegotiation of Kuzzi. the Canada-US-Mexico trade agreement, even more complicated. The U.S. can use tariffs to try to pressure Canada into even more concessions when the formal renegotiation process starts next year. You know, if we take a step back, you know, what a difference a few months makes. No more is anyone in Canada expecting to see tariffs come to an end. Trump has made it explicitly clear. Tariffs are here to stay, and that's what every U.S. trading partner is going to have to deal with.

It's just now a matter of whether Canada can get some limited relief from those tariffs. Katie, thank you. Thanks. The CBC's Katie Simpson at the White House. Coming right up, it's a day of remembrance for the victims of the October 7th Hamas attack on Israel, a day of worry for Palestinians yearning for progress on peace amid New Gaza attacks. And cancer patients hope. it's a way to get the newest treatments faster.

Ontario becomes the first province to accelerate price negotiations with drug makers. Later, we'll have this story. I'm Thomas Dagg at Yankee Stadium in New York, where fans from across Canada are hoping to see the Toronto Blue Jays sweep the Bronx bombers. We're hoping we're hot right now. We're going in, so confidence is pretty high. We're Oilers fans, so usually we're coming from behind lots, so that's what we expected with the Jays here.

but this is an unreal situation to be sitting in right now. A win tonight, and the Jays take a big step toward the World Series. The story later on Your World Tonight. On the calendar, two years have now passed, but for many the pain feels eternal. Across Israel, there were solemn memorials today and personal tributes marking the anniversary of the shocking October.

7th Hamas attacks. More than a thousand people were killed, more than 200 kidnapped in one of the darkest days in the country's history. CBC's Paul Hunter visited one of the hardest hit communities in southern Israel. It is a sobering place. In a grassy field, row after row of placards on metal posts with flowers and handwritten notes with the smiling faces of those killed on or near this spot precisely two years ago. It is the memorial at the site of Nova Music Festival in southern Israel. Nearly 400 people were killed here. More than three dozen others kidnapped.

On this second anniversary of that terrible day, tears seemingly at every corner. It's very heavy day. Orit Baran's daughter, Yuval, got to the festival late that day, arriving just an hour before the attack began. Yuval was killed on the highway, trying to escape. What do you say to your daughter? That I miss her so much.

She was the unicorn of the house. And her smile, her noise. The brutal images from that day are still difficult to watch, let alone comprehend. Two years later. And artillery fire, not far from the Nova Memorial, is a near constant reminder.

Israel's response to the attacks, its brutal war on Hamas in Gaza itself continues on. And by the way, among the placards at the Nova Memorial, though, is still in captivity. Lied Vitman came to see the placard for the daughter of a good friend. It's like you're living again.

It's horrific times. For all the families, it's just an ongoing situation that we're going to carry, actually, forever. As the world also knows, the violence was hardly confined to the music festival. Overall, some 1,200 people were killed in Israel that day, roughly 250 kidnapped. And so, for all of them, moments of silence throughout the country

to mark the anniversary. In Jerusalem, in Tel Aviv. And in Kibbutz Kifar Azza, itself a place where more than 60 people were killed. Here again, Orit Baran. I cannot really start healing because I'm not only grieving about my children. It's about all the other hostage that are not still here. And I really hope it will be end really, very soon.

All of it, two years later, leaving so many in this country still shaken, still mourning. Paul Hunter, CBC News, at the site of the Nova Music Festival in southern Israel. For Palestinians, October 7th, is also a grim milestone. The Hamas attack set off a relentless and destructive war in Gaza that isn't over yet. Israel's retaliation has destroyed much of the territory and displaced much of its population. And two years later, the struggle to survive is only getting harder. As peace talks continue in Charmel's Sheikh Egypt, Crystal Gamansing brings us that story. Everything was turned upside down on October 7, says Umnarder Kalum.

She is desperate for the life she once had. In two years of military operations, nearly 80% of all of the structures in Gaza have been destroyed. About 90% of the population displaced, according to the UN. Yusuf Abdul Qadr, a paramedic, says every call he's been on is a horrifying seen. Gaza's health officials say more than 67,000 people have been killed. Qatar, speaking to CBC's freelance videographer in Diraabala, explains the pressure of rushing into the streets after a strike to find the wounded and the dead as their loved ones look on. A job that leaves him emotionally and mentally drained. He asks, where am I supposed to find

peace? A deal is currently being negotiated that could. A deal is currently being negotiated that could bring an end to the war, Hamas and Israel have broadly agreed to the 20-point plan put forward by U.S. President Donald Trump, which includes the release of all of the remaining 48 hostages held in Gaza. Stumbling blocks include whether Hamas will agree to disarm and not play a role in Gaza's future and when Israeli forces would withdraw. Day three of talks in Egypt, Wednesday, are expected to include the Prime Minister of Qatar and U.S. Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff. Trump says it's early days, but is expressing confidence that a deal will be done. But we have a lot of power, and we're going to do everything possible to make sure everybody adheres to the deal.

A change in tone from Sunday when in a truth social post, he wrote, Time is of the essence or massive bloodshed will follow, something nobody wants to see. They have memories that are bad. Salmatweil is from Gaza City and works for the humanitarian organization. the Norwegian Refugee Council. She has had several close calls. I was trapped for 14 days with my family in a tiny corridor. We were not able to speak to each other

because once we speak to each other, the helicopter will start shooting the building. She says in Gaza, you can't think too long about the what-ifs. But she does think about the day the fighting will end. end and the life she hopes her children will live. Crystal Gamanssing, CBC News, Stedrott, Israel. For people around the world and here in Canada, the attacks of October 7th and the war in Gaza have been hard to process.

There have been regular demonstrations and counter demonstrations in Canadian cities over the past two years, sometimes testing the limits of lawful protest. Today in Montreal, Concordia University closed its downtown campus out of precaution. Sarah Levitt explains why. Outside Concordia University's downtown campus, student groups and others not affiliated with the school gather in support for Gaza, some against Israel with signs reading free Palestine and no pride in genocide. Palestinian flags fly as cowbells ring out amid the sea of

Kaffa scarfs as riot police watch closely. Tamin Hartman is a student at near by Dawson College and part of solidarity for Palestinian human rights. For us, I think October 7th really is the marker of when the genocide started in Palestine. So that was really the main idea behind marching today. As the protesters marched through the streets, security guards stood in front of locked doors at Concordia, the school choosing to shut down classes today. In a statement, the university's president said, quote, the threat of extreme disruption is simply too high to operate as usual.

This, after a similar protest on Monday, resulted in two arrests, one for assaulting a security guard and the other for mischief for triggering a fire alarm. Neither, the president says, were concordia students. On campuses across Canada today, pro-Palestinian protests have some Jewish students and staff saying they continue to feel unsafe. It's not really a comfortable and safe place anymore for, you know, It's been that way for a long time for students who, you know, have any kind of Jewish identification on them. Rabbi Josh Berkovitz acts as clergy for the Habad student group at Concordia. For some reason, the level of celebration that happens on October 7th of Montreal is just unusual and people are disturbed by it.

At University of Toronto's Mississauga campus, the student union held a protest they called honoring our martyrs, explaining it was about honoring the lives lost in Gaza. That title drawing condemnation. Imagine walking on campus and seeing a protest talking about honoring martyrs on that day. It's just abhorrent. Jacqueline Dressler is with Hulal, Ontario, a Jewish student organization. She's upset these protests are being held on October 7th. It's impossible to take it any other way than blatant discrimination, hatred. Students have to be able to move about their campus, utilize their campus spaces, be able to access their

classrooms freely without feeling afraid or unable to move in their own campus. In Montreal, the crowd weaved their way from one campus to another, McGill, where an Israeli flag covered in red handmarks was set on fire. Riot police smacked their shields, marking the protest illegal. Sarah Levitt's CBC News, Montreal. your world tonight from CBC News. If you want to make sure you stay up to date and never miss one of our episodes, follow us on Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts. Just find the follow button and lock us in. A Canadian first to tell you about that will help some cancer patients access new life-saving treatments faster. Ontario announced a new program today that will speed up

price negotiations with manufacturers for cutting-edge drugs. Jennifer Yoon has details. Whether it's next month or next year, I will need to move to the next line of treatment. Glenn Hussey's cancer treatment has been working so far. But he knows at any point his multiple myeloma might come roaring back. And lately, his blood tests are showing that may happen soon. And it's my hope that the best treatment I can get is available to me. at that time. It's when you have to start talking about alternatives because you can't get the one

that's the best for you is a kick in the head. Hussie says he knows other patients who need a new drug that's been approved by Health Canada but not yet accessible to patients because it's not covered by provincial drug plans. That leg time could mean the difference between life and death for some patients. Now Ontario is trying to reduce that weight. Sylvia Jones is the Minister of Health. This three-year pilot will expedite access to up to 10 high-priority cancer drugs each year that are... There are several steps before a patient can access a new drug. First, Health Canada investigates a drug to see if it can meaningfully help a patient. Then Canada's drug agency takes a look at its efficacy, safety, and cost-effectiveness. Finally, provinces team up

to negotiate the price of the drug with the pharmaceutical company. Ontario is planning to bypass that last step, giving patients the drug before agreeing on the price. On the face of it looks like a good idea for patients in Ontario. Dr. Bissal Giawali is a cancer doctor at Queen's University. He says it's a good step, but reducing delays for new drugs isn't just up to a provincial government. Whenever there is a complaint about delays, people always complain that the government is not funding it. But it's not just the government. There is also the industry. We should also also be asking why the industry is not lowering its prices.

Another way to speed up access to new drugs, encouraging companies to bring them to the Canadian market earlier, says Meda Tadros, who researches drug policy at the University of Toronto. Companies choose when to bring the drug to Canada. They choose when to file the paperwork. And so they often, not often, always go to the United States and the EMA first. I would like to see the manufacturers also step up and say, we're going to move Canada up in the timelines of when they bring drugs to Canada as well.

Tadros says other provinces will be watching how well the program works to see what, if anything, they can learn from Ontario's pilot project. Jaddafer Yun, CBC News, Toronto. They are baseball's most successful franchise with a rich history and a rabid fan base, usually dripping with New York's swagger and confidence, but not tonight. The New York Yankees are on the brink of elimination after getting blown out by the Charado Blue Jays in the first two games of their playoff series.

Now it's Canada's team strutting into Yankee Stadium with a chance to move on. Thomas Degla has more from New York City. In the heart of Manhattan, there's no shortage of bars with TVs showing Yankees games in the playoffs, but here there's Putin and Nanaimo bars on the menu and a picture of Blue Jays slugger Vladimir Guerrero Jr. on the wall. We're just excited, honestly, for the Blue Jays to be in the postseason

and playing so well right now. BC-born Dennis Ladisor owns the Canuck, an aptly named sports bar serving as a safe haven for fans of Canada's only big league baseball team, especially now with the Jays pushing their New York rivals to the brink of elimination in the American League Division Series. Being a place with all Blue Jays fans and not surrounded by Yankees fans is pretty unique and pretty exciting.

Yankees fans and New York sports pundits have have grown increasingly dubious of their opponents in blue. After the Jays won all but one of their home matchups with the Yankees during the regular season, Toronto broke scoring records over the weekend, dominating both games. Deep left field, it is a grand slam for Vladimir Guerrero Jr. All of it leading to this on New York Sports Radio. They're kind of intimating that there's something untoward going on at the home ballpark that the Blue Jays play.

Yankees broadcaster Michael Kay calling out the allegations of cheating that have been swirling on social media. The Yankees' own pitchers even hinted the Jays have been picking up signs before a pitch is thrown. That's long been part of the game, but coordinated electronic sign stealing is formally banned. And a recurring concern ever since the Houston Astros were caught using a camera to cheat after winning the 2017 World Series. Kay told his listeners the unsubstantiated accusations directed at the Jay's are an embarrassment. Figure it out. If you think that they're doing something weird or they're doing something illegal, figure it out. Don't sit back and woe is me. Jay's fans have descended upon the

Bronx for the big game. Brett Campbell and his father flew in from Grand Prairie, Alberta, an all-day journey with three layovers. We're hoping we're hot right now. We're going to going in, so confidence is pretty high. The series is far from over. Manager John Schneider says his team is taking nothing for granted, despite a commanding two games to none lead. Coming into a tough place to play against a really good pitcher and a really good team. With another win, the Jays would advance to the American League Championship Series,

one step away from the World Series. The team hasn't reached baseball's biggest stage in 32 years. Thomas Dagg, CBC News, New York. Finally tonight. we dig one more hole? Why? I feel lucky. What is that?

I think I might have found something. In the movie, based on the award-winning book, Holes, an evil warden searching for treasure forces hero Stanley Yelnats to dig up the ground over and over. Well, on the New Brunswick, Nova Scotia border right now, a real-life holes mystery is playing out. We know there's 150 holes, what people found or didn't find.

Not all those 150 holes probably led to finding anything, but some of them clearly did because they're coming back and back again. Tim LeBlanc-Murphy of Parks Canada is raising concerns over what's happening around the Fort Bo Sejeure and Fort Cumberland National Historic Sites. It's illegal to dig there, and Leblancelieu says it risks damaging thousands of years' worth of artifacts from the migma and the Acadians.

The area's rich in military history, too. You have the sort of the battles between the French and the English, and hence that's why we have the fort here at Fort Boisjeure, first built by the French. And across the way there, we had Fort Lawrence, which is also a national historic site, and then eventually the British would conquer and take over the Ford here and rename it Fort Cumberland.

LeBlaw Murphy suspects whoever is digging might have a metal detector, but he says it's important that fines are made by experts who know how to handle artifacts. You're taking a piece, the metal piece, out of a bigger picture. So, you know, you might find something, but what's next to it is what will help you tell the full story.

So that's really being lost when people just leave with that one object. So you risk a run-in with the law. You may not find anything or you could damage history. And a small spoiler alert here, if you haven't read or seen holes, it doesn't end well for the greedy treasure hunters. You, your children and your children's children, We'll dig for the next 100 years, and you will never find it.

Maybe it's best to leave the digging to the experts. Thank you for joining us on your world tonight for Tuesday, October 7th. I'm Susan Bonner. Talk to you again. For more CBC podcasts, go to cBC.ca slash podcasts.