Your World Tonight - Carney lands in Washington, Trump takes aim at Hollywood North, 80 years since the liberation of the Netherlands from the Nazis, and more

Episode Date: May 5, 2025

The Prime Minister is in Washington ahead of Tuesday’s critical first meeting with the U.S. President. Mark Carney and Donald Trump are expected to talk trade, tariffs, and Canada's sovereignty, but some experts question how much will get sorted out during this initial face-to-face.Also: Canada's multi-billion dollar film and television industry pushes back against Trump's call to tariff all foreign movies entering the U.S. The President wants to slap 100 per cent levies on the products, although the White House has given no details how that will work.And: A stirring ceremony for Canadian WWII veterans, as the Netherlands marks 80 years since it was freed from the grip of Nazi occupation, while honouring the role Canadians played in the liberation.Plus: Canada mulls a plan to buy military equipment from South Korea, dramatic testimony at the trial for five former junior hockey players, and more.

1942, Europe. Soldiers find a boy surviving alone in the woods. They make him a member of Hitler's army. But what no one would know for decades, he was Jewish. Could a story so unbelievable be true? I'm Dan Goldberg. I'm from CBC's Personally, Toy Soldier. Available now wherever you get your podcasts. This is a CBC Podcast. What's your expectation for your meeting with the Canadian Prime Minister tomorrow? I don't know. He's coming to see me. I'm not sure what he wants to see me about, but I guess he wants to make a deal.

Everybody does. They all want to make a deal because we have something that they all want. Donald Trump says he's open to negotiating as he gets set to open the White House doors to Prime Minister Mark Carney, now in Washington on his first official trip since last week's election, hoping to hit reset and launch a new era of Canada-U.S. relations. Welcome to Your World Tonight. I'm Susan Bonner. It's coming up on 7 p.m. Eastern Time, also on the podcast.

I don't want to candy coat it. This is a big problem and I think it's a mistake because ultimately I think He will have less product or more expensive product And I think it'll be bad for everybody Concern in Canada's film industry with Trump setting his sights on foreign movies Trying to produce another golden age for Hollywood with tariffs that threaten to wrap up productions around the world. It is an early and important test for the new prime minister. Mark Carney arrived in Washington today ahead of Tuesday's critical meeting with the U.S.

president. After a federal campaign full of promises to take on Trump and defend Canadian sovereignty, Carney now has his chance to follow through with it. We begin our coverage with Katie Simpson in Washington. Prime Minister Mark Carney emerged from his motorcade at the Ottawa Airport under a cloudy sky boarding the PM's plane bound for Washington. A brief first visit that will set the tone for the most important yet difficult relationship Carney will have to manage. He's coming to see me.

I'm not sure what he wants to see me about, but I guess he wants to make a deal. U.S. President Donald Trump's erratic tariff agenda and his insulting annexation talk, fresh in the minds of Canadian voters who gave Carney a mandate to navigate this existential crisis. It's really going to be an effort on the part of the Prime Minister to lower the temperature, of course, and to try to get back to more meaningful substantive discussions. Peter McKay served as Foreign Affairs Minister during the Conservative government of Stephen Harper and he sees this as an opportunity to reset the Canada-US relationship. Canadian officials are expected to pitch ways

both countries can work more closely together. Pitch is very familiar to some members of the Canadian delegation. Dominic LeBlanc, Melanie Jolie and David McGinty are with Carney, all cabinet ministers who work directly with Trump's team prior to the election. But any proposals will likely come with a caveat. Canada can't do anything more. There can be no further cooperation unless there's an ultimate agreement to lift the tariffs. Brian Clow served as Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's deputy chief of staff and he managed the Canada-US file. He's not anticipating any sort of major breakthrough.

Instead, he also sees this as a crucial relationship-building moment. I don't expect any specific deals tomorrow, certainly not a tariff removal deal tomorrow. I see tomorrow as the beginning of a new process. Clow is hopeful Trump will be respectful. But no one can forget what happened in the Oval Office when Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky visited earlier this year. You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.

After Trump publicly berated an ally, Klaue says any world leader going into the White House needs to consider how to manage a worst-case scenario. You need to stand up for your country and yourself. You need to correct facts when misstatements are made. But at the same time, my advice would be give the president some room to do what he clearly likes to do, which is perform in front of the media and pick your battles. Trump has taken a more respectful tone with Carney than he did in recent months with Trudeau. But whether that improves the Canada-U.S. relationship is anyone's guess.

Katie Simpson, CBC News, Washington. Canadian businesses will be watching closely. Our senior business correspondent, Peter Armstrong, is in Washington with that side of the story. Peter, what do businesses hope to see come out of this meeting? You know, the thing I keep hearing from people is that they hope to get a better sense of the parameters, right? We haven't really had this conversation since the terror threat heated up at the end of last year. You know, just two obvious examples. On the one hand, the Americans are using very different trade numbers than

the Canadians are. And on the other hand, the demands from the White House are constantly changing. And if you're going to talk, you need to know the parameters of that discussion. So I keep hearing people saying that would be a very good first step. Yeah. Well, you talk about Americans using different trade numbers. Donald Trump keeps saying the US doesn't need Canadian products. Right, and to that, remember, the US government doesn't do any business with Canada. It's American companies that buy and sell a bunch of stuff to and from Canadian companies, and those companies very much need the products they buy from Canada. And let's face it, they buy a lot. Last year, American businesses bought like $570 billion worth of Canadian goods.

Peter, that sounds like we make a pretty good business partner. A pretty important one too, right? Don't forget, Canadians buy like $490 billion worth of American goods and Americans sell more to Canada, Susan, than they do to China, Japan and the UK combined. And all the American businesses that sell all that stuff, they're worried. And Canadians are boycotting some of those businesses. They're cutting back on travel to the US. How much of a factor is that as these two leaders meet? I think it is. You know, I spoke with one business association that told me all politics

are local and that it's important that Americans are talking to Americans, that they're highlighting the ways in which all this uncertainty is weighing on them, that the tariffs are hurting them. There's a continent wide supply chain that's been built up over decades to manage all this trade. Listen to how Candice Lang, the CEO of the Canadian Chamber of Commerce frames that aspect. The US administration probably has not the full comprehension of the economic impact of damaging or unwinding those integrated supply chains. We're hearing and seeing more business leaders speak up to those impacts.

So big picture, what do businesses think the road ahead looks like? I think they'd like to see the relationship reset. They'd like to see some attempt to establish where there is agreement. Remind the president that USMCA or CUSMA is working, that it has been a very good deal for Americans. And hopefully, as I say, set the parameters of how the conversation moves from here. It's pretty modest in terms of goals, but that's where we are. Thank you, Peter. You bet.

Senior business correspondent, Peter Armstrong reporting from Washington. In another plot twist from a president who understands drama, Donald Trump's newest pledge is to make Hollywood great again. Over the weekend the president called for boosting American films by imposing steep tariffs on all foreign productions. Anis Hadari has more on what it could mean for the film industry here. You may be wondering why the red suit? Well that's so bad guys can't see me bleed. Deadpool was shot in Vancouver but around the world it made for the film industry here. Deadpool was shot in Vancouver, but around the world it made more than $780 million U.S.

dollars back in 2016. One of the hundreds, if not thousands, of movies and TV shows filmed for American studios, but in Canada, made with Canadian workers. Now, U.S. President Donald Trump could change that. If they're not willing to make a movie inside the United States, then we should have a tariff on movies that come in. If Trump somehow did that, it could make it too expensive to film here. On Sunday, he

was threatening a 100 percent tariff on movies made outside of the U.S., claiming foreign-filmed movies were a security threat. A shift in messaging today, though. So we're going to meet with the industry. I want to make sure they're happy with it because we're all about jobs. Some Canadian players aren't sure Trump's threatened moves would protect or create jobs in the United States. Like Noah Siegel.

He's co-president of Elevation Pictures, an independent studio in Toronto, and he says studios might just make less stuff, period. I don't want to candy-coat it. This is a big problem, and I think it's a mistake because ultimately I think by raising the cost level on movies, which he will, it won't be as cheap to do in America, and they won't do it, he will have less product or more expensive product. And I think it'll be bad for everybody. Definitely bad for the Canadian industry and the thousands of jobs here.

It would have a devastating impact. Charlie Kyle is a professor at the University of Toronto's Cinema Studies Institute. He says most of the economic activity in the film and TV sector here are either productions or co-productions for US companies. And if tariffed, it's not just glamorous movie makers who lose out. Not only would it slow down production considerably, but it would also have knock-on effects so that you would have unemployed people in that sector not having the same kind of buying power they had because they're not working.

One of the Canadian Actors Union says media contributes $11 billion to this country's economy. That's across film, television and digital platforms. But it's money that politicians here want to protect. The president's proposal is incredibly hard to understand. Though BC Premier David Eby seems to share the confusion of many right now. Try to imagine as an American an option for two versions of Netflix, one where you get just a handful of productions, the other where you pay $50 a month or $100 a month and you

get to see what everyone else in the world gets to see. But for now, it may be a cliffhanger ending. It's unclear how Trump intends to script the end of this movie, Tariff. And he's hit ourBC News, Calgary. Coming up on the podcast, 80 years after Canadians helped liberate the Netherlands, one soldier's journey back. I'm Chris Brown at the Liberation Day Parade in the city of Wagenegen in the Netherlands. Not only do these celebrations build on the already strong bond between the Dutch and the Canadian war veterans who fought for their freedom,

this event also gave some of the Canadian vets some unexpected surprises. This to me is a real shocker. I'll have their stories coming up on Your World Tonight. tonight. Premier Daniel Smith addressed Albertans today with a long list of grievances about the federal government and a new set of demands. She says many Albertans are discouraged by the election of the new liberal government and the relationship will need to change. Julia Wong is in Edmonton.

Julia, tell us more about the Premier's message to Albertans. There was a lot of frustration in Danielle Smith's voice as she talked about how Ottawa has dealt with Alberta over the last few decades. She said the federal liberals had unleashed laws and policies that attacked Alberta's free economy and affected people's livelihoods. And she says it cost the province half a trillion dollars in lost opportunities. She said global investors had been scared away and Canada is not being viewed as an attractive place to invest.

And she said the world thinks Canada has lost its mind with anti-energy policies. Now Smith says a special negotiating team will be appointed to represent the province during negotiations with Ottawa on specific reforms and there will also be an Alberta Next panel that will discuss Alberta's future in Canada with Smith saying feelings of Western alienation are growing. Now let's talk about the elephant in the room, that being separation. We are well aware that there is a large and growing number of Albertans that have lost hope in Alberta having a free and prosperous future as a part of Canada. The vast

majority of these individuals are not fringe voices to be marginalized or vilified. They are loyal Albertans. Now it was the day after the federal election that Smith's UCP government tabled legislation that would lower the threshold for a referendum to happen and separatist groups have been organizing. Now a recent Angus Reid poll found one in four Albertans would vote for the province to separate from Canada, meaning the vast majority of people don't want Alberta to leave. Now back to that Alberta Next panel, Smith says some of the more popular ideas discussed with the panel will be put to a referendum and Albertans will be able to vote on them

next year. And what about her specific demands? What is she asking for? So Smith had four specific demands. She's calling for a guaranteed corridor and port access to Tidewater for the export of Alberta oil, gas and critical minerals. She also wants Ottawa to end what she calls federal interference in the development of provincial resources, such as repealing Bill C-69, the Federal Impact Assessment

Act and the proposed oil and gas emissions cap. She is also insisting that Ottawa refrain from imposing an export tax or restrictions on the export of Alberta resources and she's calling for the same per capita federal transfers and equalization as Quebec, Ontario and British Columbia. Thank you Julia. Thank you, Julia. Thank you. Julia Wong reporting from Edmonton. As Benjamin Netanyahu speaking about his country's plans to intensify military operations in Gaza.

In an online video, Israel's prime minister says the move is to ensure Hamas is defeated and that the militant group returns the remaining Israeli hostages. The proposal was approved by Israel's security cabinet. It includes a plan to seize all of Gaza and remain there for an unspecified amount of time. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians would be moved to the south. The United Nations has warned the territory is nearing famine and any escalation could worsen the situation. Israel also says its military struck several Houthi targets in Yemen. The strikes reportedly hit a port area along the Red Sea. This comes a day after Houthi militants launched an attack, a missile that landed near Israel's busiest airport. At least six people were injured. Iran backs

the Houthis, but denies any involvement in this recent attack. There was graphic and difficult testimony today at the sexual assault trial of five former Team Canada hockey players. The complainant in the case spoke at length about what she said happened in a hotel room in 2018. The men accused have all pleaded not guilty. Katie Nicholson is following this case and a warning. Her report contains detailed descriptions of the alleged assault. What do we want? Justice! When do we want it? Now!

Another show of support outside the London, Ontario court, as the woman known only as E.M. continued her testimony inside. We are here to show E.M. that she is not alone. She said after she had sex with Michael McCloud, other men entered the hotel room. They put a sheet down on the floor, she said, and told her to lie on it and touch herself. She testified three men pulled their pants down for oral sex as others in the room chanted, suck it, and some spat on her, she said. Some slapped her buttocks. EM said she cried at times, but when she tried to leave, people would guide her away from

the door. She also testified she did not recall two videos taken from McLeod's phone in which she appears to give consent to unspecified acts. In particular, one in which she clutches a towel as a male voices heard saying, it was all consensual. She replies it was consensual, but testified today it was not a reflection of what she felt and that she believes McLeod was trying to get her to say it was consensual. We know a lot more now about, you know, not just sort of the fight, flight, or freeze response

that people often exhibit following trauma, but also the fawn response. Anna Matis is a lawyer who has worked with survivors of sexual violence. She's not involved in this case. Matis says the science around how people process trauma has evolved, but public perception has not. We have a lot of ideas that if you were being assaulted

or if you don't want the sexual contact, you will fight or yell or scream. But for a lot of survivors, their brain literally cuts off their ability to do that. And so we judge them for not doing something they were literally incapable of doing. Court also saw a series of text messages between McCloud and E.M. a day later on the 20th, after her family had contacted Hockey Canada and police.

What can you do to make this go away, he texted. In cross-examination, McCloud's lawyers suggested E.M. cried the night of the alleged assaults because she had cheated on her boyfriend of two months. I blamed myself, she replied, for getting drunk and leaving with McCloud. We are closely monitoring our calls and our car volume. Whatever the jury makes of E.M.'s testimony and the ongoing cross-examination,

advocates like Jesse Roger, who work to end gender-based violence in London, fear it and the publicity around this trial will trigger sexual assault survivors. We along with a lot of other sexual assault centers in the country have been preparing for that increase in calls. E.M.'s cross-examination continues tomorrow as the defense teams for the five accused question her account of that night and the days that followed. Katie Nicholson, CBC News, London, Ontario. This is Your World Tonight from CBC News. If you want to make sure you stay up to date and never miss one of our episodes,

follow us on Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts. Just find the follow button and lock us in. Ever since Donald Trump started to upend global trade, Canadian officials have repeatedly called for new trade relations. And now South Korea has come calling with a sweeping proposal for billions of dollars worth of military hardware. Murray Brewster went to South Korea to see what's on offer. It's not every day you see a 64-ton armored vehicle with a 155-millimeter cannon doing donuts in a parking lot. The driver at South Korea's Hanwha

Aerospace was hot-talking and wanted to show us what it could do. The K-9 is the most advanced artillery system in the world. Ben Hyo is an engineer at Hanwha Aerospace. He says the K-9 Thunder is the perfect fit for the Canadian Army, and it could have dozens of them quickly. We can deliver our K-9 system, list the one battalion within 12 months

from our contract. New artillery is on a long list of military hardware Canada needs and South Korea has made a bold bid to be our main supplier in place of the United States and Europe. To sweeten the deal, they're offering to create jobs here and to deliver fast on even bigger items like submarines. We visited the giant dry docks of Hyundai Heavy Industries, which has partnered with rival Hanwha Ocean, proposing to build 12 brand new submarines for Canada.

And it says it can deliver the first four within a decade. South Korea's Deputy Defense Minister, Hun Kye Cho, spoke to CBC News exclusively and says his country doesn't view the proposal as a one-time deal. Instead, he says they see it as a strategic partnership, a way to rebuild Canada's defense industry. This comes at a time when the Liberal government is facing pressure to stop buying American military hardware and when the list of gear that needs to be replaced is long. We got here by multiple decades of governments kicking the can down the road and I think we're at the point now where we have run out of road.

Dave Perry, a Canadian defense analyst, who notes other allies such as Poland, Norway and Australia have turned to the South Koreans in order to quickly rearm. Poland is getting its army rebuilt in large part with South Korean support so they've got a track record already at being able to provide huge amounts of equipment in very short order. Despite the enthusiasm there is still deep skepticism in Seoul that Canada is truly serious about breaking its decades-long reliance on the US for trade in weapons with many South Korean officials, defense, foreign affairs and corporate all saying they're

looking for concrete signs from Canada's new government. Marie Brewster, CBC News, Koje, South Korea. A military procession outside Buckingham Palace as part of VE Day commemorations. Thursday is the 80th anniversary of victory in Europe in the Second World War. And Monday started four days of events in the UK. Nazi forces surrendered unconditionally to the Allies on May 8, 1945. Fighting in the Pacific theater would continue for another few months. Japan announced its surrender on August 15th. Eighty years after they fought and died thousands of kilometres from home, they are the Canadian

heroes who are not forgotten. It is Liberation Day in the Netherlands, veterans are being honoured across the country, and especially by younger Dutch generations whose freedom came from Canadian sacrifice. Chris Brown has more. It's not every day you see a 64-ton armored vehicle with a 155-millimeter cannon doing donuts in a parking lot. The driver at South Korea's Hanwha Aerospace was hot-talking and wanted to show us what it could do. The K-9 is the most advanced artillery system in the world. Ben Hyo is an engineer at Hanwha Aerospace. He says the K-9 Thunder is the perfect fit

for the Canadian Army and it could have dozens of them quickly. We can deliver our K-9 system, list the one battalion within 12 months from our contract. New artillery is on a long list of military hardware Canada needs and South Korea has made a bold bid to be our main supplier in place of the United States and Europe. To sweeten the deal, they're offering to create jobs here and to deliver fast on even bigger items like submarines. We visited the giant dry docks of Hyundai Heavy Industries, which has partnered with rival Hanwha Ocean, proposing to build 12 brand new submarines for Canada, and it says it can deliver the first four within a decade.

South Korea's Deputy Defense Minister, or within a decade. South Korea's Deputy Defense Minister, Hun Kye Cho, spoke to CBC News exclusively and says his country doesn't view the proposal as a one-time deal. Instead, he says they see it as a strategic partnership, a way to rebuild Canada's defense industry. This comes at a time when the Liberal government

is facing pressure to stop buying American military hardware and when the list of gear that needs to be replaced is long. We got here by multiple decades of governments kicking the can down the road, and I think we're at the point now where we have run out of road. Dave Perry, a Canadian defense analyst, who notes other allies, such as Poland, Norway, and Australia, have turned to the South Koreans in order to quickly rearm. Poland is getting its army rebuilt in large part with South Korean support.

So they've got a track record already at being able to provide huge amounts of equipment in very short order. Despite the enthusiasm, there is still deep skepticism in Seoul that Canada is truly serious about breaking its decades-long reliance on the U.S. for trade and weapons. With many South Korean officials, defense, foreign affairs and corporate all saying they're looking for concrete signs from Canada's new government. Marie Brewster, CBC News, Kojai, South Korea. Finally tonight, here at home, it's a day marked with a colour and a simple piece of

clothing, symbolising one of this country's most difficult social struggles. Today is Red Dress Day, raising awareness for and remembering missing and murdered Indigenous women, girls and Two-Spirit people. That's a drumming circle in downtown Toronto, one of many events marking the day across the country. According to the Government of Canada, Indigenous women and girls are six times more likely to be murdered than other groups of people. In 2016, the government launched a national inquiry, and its work continues. Today, in Ottawa, a new Indigenous-led research project was announced that will seek to advance the inquiry's calls to action.

Cora Maguire-Syrette is the CEO of the Ontario Native Women's Association. Today, we want people to put themselves in our footsteps. We want them to walk themselves in our footsteps. We want them to walk this journey with us, not for us, but alongside us. Today we want Indigenous women to have their leadership reclaimed and to be empowered once again. Today we want a trigger for change and that is what this project is about. This is the 15th Red Dress Day, which was inspired by the Métis artist Jamie Black. Her 2010 art installation involved hanging dresses in public spaces that served as a

haunting and powerful reminder of the many Indigenous women and girls who are no longer here. Thanks for joining us. This has been Your World Tonight for Monday, May 5th. I'm Susan Bonner. Talk to you again.