Your World Tonight - Carney pitches bail reform, PM says not time to hit U.S., lead in protein powders, and more
Episode Date: October 16, 2025Prime Minister Mark Carney lays out his plan on bail conditions and sentencing. Carney says repeat offenders charged with home invasion, violent car theft, assault, sexual assault, extortion or human ...trafficking will have to prove they deserve bail before it is awarded.And: Carney says it’s not time for more retaliatory tariffs against American goods. He is facing pressure from some premiers to strike back as the tariffs draw jobs and investments away from Canada.Also: A Consumer Reports investigation has found what it calls “concerning” levels of lead in some popular protein powders — including some sold in Canada.Plus: Gaza aid, Trump and Putin, F35s and more.
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You know, to be arrested
and then first pretty serious stuff
and then you're out within two to three days
to re-offend every time.
Crime, punishment, and politics.
As Canadian communities struggle with home invasions,
car thefts, and repeat offenders,
new federal legislation is proposed
closing bail reform and stiffer sentences, a campaign promise that will need support in Parliament
and possibly the Supreme Court.
Welcome to Your World Tonight.
I'm Susan Bonner.
It is Thursday, October 16th just before 6 p.m. Eastern, also on the podcast.
We can make it better.
And so we will do everything we can to make it better.
There's times to hit back and there's times to talk.
And right now is the time to talk.
Facing provincial pressure to hit the United States' best.
Prime Minister Mark Carney wants to keep the dialogue going, choosing not to escalate the trade conflict with Washington while trying to manage competing interests on this side of the border.
The Prime Minister says it's about tougher laws and safer streets. Mark Carney today revealed his government's plan to change the criminal code, legislation that won't be tabled until next week, but already.
critics and opposition parties are taking aim.
Olivia Stefanovic begins our coverage.
Canadians deserve to feel safe in their community,
to know that their homes are secure.
Against a backdrop of RCMP officers
donning their grey duty uniforms in Toronto,
Prime Minister Mark Carney announced his government's long-awaited plan
to crack down on crime.
With so-called reverse onus bail,
it will no longer be up to the crown to prove
why someone should stay behind bars.
It will be up to the accused
to prove to the court
why they can be trusted
to be released.
A promise made months ago
on the federal election campaign trail
with a new justice bill
scheduled to be tabled in Parliament
next week. We are delivering the
change to keep violent
repeat offenders off our streets. The proposed
legislation would allow consecutive
sentencing for those offenders
accused of serious crimes.
times, including violent auto theft, human trafficking, and sexual assault, along with a pledge to hire 1,000 more Mounties.
We are going to scrap liberal bail, scrap liberal parole.
Conservative leader Pierre Pahliav is dismissing Carney's proposed changes, urging the federal government to pass his party's private members bill on bail reform instead.
It will be jail, not bail.
The changes Carney is proposing come after the conservatives' up.
upset the liberals in the vote-rich 905, an area surrounding Toronto that sing a significant increase
in violent crime, carjackings, homicide, shootings, even though statistics Canada says crime is
decreasing overall in most other parts of the country. There has to be consequences when you do
violent crimes. The federal government is also under pressure from Ontario Premier Doug Ford and other
provincial leaders, along with mayors and police services to reform the bail system.
We need mandatory sentences. So when a criminal goes in with a gun, you know you're doing X
amount of years, whatever it is, 10 years. Carney's announcement did not include mandatory sentences,
and it isn't clear if the bill could withstand a legal challenge since the Supreme Court of Canada
struck down consecutive periods of parole ineligibility. I think one of the primary responsibilities
we have as members of parliament is to make sure that laws that we pass do conform to our charter and our
Constitution. Don Davies is the interim leader of the federal NDP. He says new Democrats are waiting
to see the text of the bill before formulating a position. We have to move forward in a very
considered way, balancing, again, Canadians' important rights to be free pending charge.
You know, you can't just be throwing people in jail pending the outcome of.
of their trials.
The previous liberal government
made bail less onerous
in an attempt to address
the over-incarceration
of black and indigenous offenders.
Now it's become the latest
Trudeau-era policy
to be put on the chopping block.
Olivia Estefanovich,
CBC News, Ottawa.
I'm Philip Lyshanock in Toronto,
where those whose lives
have been upended by repeat criminal offenders
are applauding some of the proposed changes.
Paul Henderson and Flo Bellman
say reversing the onus to grant bail to require people charged with serious crimes
to justify why they should be released pending trial could have saved their daughter's life.
You know, Flo and I believe that if the system had had done what it was supposed to do,
Daryon would be alive today.
25-year-old Daryon Henderson Bellman was shot and killed allegedly by her boyfriend,
who was out on bail facing multiple weapons charges.
You know, to be arrested and then for pretty serious stuff,
and then you're out within two to three days to re-offend every time.
They allowed him out several times with a gun on bail.
The couple lobbied for changes to the bail system.
The Liberals' legislation expected next week will make it harder for people accused of serious crimes
to stay out of jail while awaiting trial.
Bail is really the safeguard of liberty for the innocent.
Shakir Rahim is the director of the Criminal Justice Program for the Canadian Civil Liberties Association.
He says all accused or presumed innocent before proven guilty.
Instead of the state having to prove why you should be detained before your trial,
you have to prove why you should be released based on an accusation.
Riz Arshad's 21-year-old son, Gabriel, was critically injured in a Brampton crash
allegedly caused by a five-time repeat impaired driver who was released on bail.
He says bail requirements should consider if it's your first offense.
I get it. They should have that chance for bail and be able to prove their innocence.
But if somebody is an habitual criminal and they've got many priors, then take them for what they're telling us that they are a criminal and they need help.
If passed, the legislation would also amend the criminal code to end conditional sentences for some crimes and allow for longer sentences for us.
Others. Michelle Joe Hall of the Criminal Lawyers Association says that and tightening bail requirements
will have consequences. And of course the concern is if more people are denied bail, they're going
to be kept in the remand population and the remand facilities are already overcrowded.
Stats Canada says there is no data on how many people allegedly committed new offenses or what
kinds of offenses were committed while out on bail.
Philip Lichanoke, CBC News, Toronto.
Hockey goaltender Carter Hart has signed a professional tryout contract with the Vegas
Golden Knights.
Hart and four teammates on Canada's 2018 World Junior Team were found not guilty of sexual
assault in July.
He's the first of the group to rejoin an NHL team since the acquittal.
Hart and the others are able to sign contracts with NHL teams but cannot play in
games until December 1st.
Coming right up, resisting pressure to retaliate.
Prime Minister Mark Carney says he wants to keep talking trade with the United States.
And Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin are planning another meeting aimed at ending the war in Ukraine.
Later, we'll have this story.
Some people take them every day, often as part of a health and fitness routine.
But a new investigation found some protein powders contained potential.
potentially harmful amounts of lead.
Some of the products had more than 10 times the levels that our experts say is safe.
I'm Alison Northcott in Montreal.
Later, on your world tonight, I'll tell you what the risks are and what experts say you can do to protect yourself.
Prime Minister Mark Carney says trade talks with the United States are going in the right direction.
And for now, he's holding off on any more retaliatory measures.
Just days after Canada's auto sector was slammed with more bad news,
some Canadian leaders want to see a tougher approach from Ottawa.
Kate McKenna reports.
There's times to hit back and there's times to talk,
and right now is the time to talk.
Prime Minister Mark Carney is pushing back against hitting back.
It's in response to calls from Ontario Premier Doug Ford
for Canada to retaliate against the United States
following the automaker Stalantis' decision
to move Jeep production from Brampton to Illinois.
With 3,000 auto jobs on the line, Ford threatened to cut off or limit energy sales to the United States.
We know that our American friends are in desperate need of our energy.
But I'm not going to give them energy if their president wants to destroy our economy,
take every single job out of Ontario, out of Canada.
Before Carney met with Ford today, the prime minister sought to underscore instead what the two leaders have in common.
Premier Ford and I are both interested in results in my case for workers and families across Canada,
of course in his case for the province of Ontario.
This schism comes as cracks in Team Canada begin to emerge.
Over the summer, the premiers expressed total confidence in the prime minister's ability to take on the U.S. administration.
But now the groundswell to get tougher on trade grows as anxiety plays out across the country
and premiers sensitive to their own workers and their own economies
are demanding to be the priorities in trade talks.
And what we're asking for today is that that same respect,
that that same concern, that same sense of emergency
is shared for the forest sector in this country.
British Columbia Premier David Eby says lumber tariffs,
now at 45 percent, aren't getting the same attention as the auto sector.
When their jobs are threatened, it's, it's, it's,
treated as a national emergency, and rightly so.
Meanwhile, premiers like Manitoba's Wab Canoe and Saskatchew and Saskatchewan, Scott
Moe, say Canada should lift tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles, so China drops the
canola tariffs hurting Western farmers.
Ford disagrees, as he strives to protect and grow his province's automaking sector.
Today, Alberta Premier Danielle Smith sided with her Western colleagues.
I do tend to side a little bit more with Wab Canoe and with Scott Moe when it comes to
to our approach with China.
Let's face it, we don't have an electric vehicle industry here.
All of this is playing out as top Canadian officials are still in Washington,
locked in negotiations over a new trade deal.
We're engaged in deep negotiations, intensive negotiations,
on several sectors of the Canadian economy, energy, aluminum, and the steel sector.
Carney finds himself managing a cast of characters with competing interests on both sides of the border.
Kate McKenna, CBC News, Ottawa.
A grand jury has indicted U.S. President Donald Trump's former national security advisor.
John Bolton is accused of mishandling classified documents.
He has long been targeted by Trump.
Chris Reyes is watching this story for us.
Chris, what do we know about the charges?
Hi, Susan.
Well, according to court records, these charges have to do with the transmission of national defense information,
retention of national defense information, and as you said,
mishandling of classified information.
Just to give you some background, back in August, the FBI searched Bolton's Maryland home and Washington office.
Agents said that they seized documents marked classified, confidential, and secret.
Now, much like the charges against Trump and the investigation into President Biden,
this case is about Bolton retaining sensitive materials from his time in government.
Remember, back in 2023, President Trump was charged under this same law for allegedly keeping and refusing to return.
classified national defense documents found at Mar-a-Lago.
Now, following that August search, Bolton's lawyers said that the seized documents were cleared
in pre-publication reviews, and many were decades old.
Chris, Donald Trump has had a lot to say publicly about John Bolton and how he feels about
him. Why was he so keen to have him charged?
Trump, during his campaign, in broader terms, Susan, repeatedly,
made veiled and some not so veiled threats against his so-called enemies. Where Bolton falls into that
is that he served under the first Trump administration for two years. They had a falling out on
foreign policy matters, including on Iran and North Korea. And then Bolton became a very
vocal critic of the president. In his memoir, Bolton said that Trump was unfit to be in that
position. Now, this news, Susan, broke as Trump was in a Q&A in the Oval Office. And when asked
about it, Trump said that he didn't know about the indictment and then added that he thinks
that Bolton is a bad person. And in the president's exact words, he's a bad guy. And this is
the third time in the past three weeks that the U.S. Justice Department has indicted one of the
president's targeted critics. What kind of reaction has there been to that? That's right. Let me just
talk about those other two. New York Attorney General Letitia James was just indicted on fraud
charges. She brought and won the case against Trump's business practices in New York, though it was
later overthrown. And then former FBI director James Comey was indicted on charges, including making
false statements. Now, he oversaw the probe into Russian election interference back in the 2016
campaign. There have been warnings and concerns from Democrats and critics of the president.
that once elected in this second term, he might use the Department of Justice to prosecute his enemies.
In fact, this issue was a major focus of the grilling that Attorney General Pam Bondi got during her confirmation hearing.
And in those hearings, she said that there will never be an enemy's list within the Department of Justice,
that she will not politicize this office and that she would not target people simply because of their political affiliation.
As you can imagine, with yet another indictment, the concerns are growing that that's not the case.
Thank you, Chris.
Thank you so much.
That's Chris Reyes in New York.
There is a new push from U.S. President Donald Trump to end the war in Ukraine,
and it includes a plan for another in-person meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
The two leaders spoke on the phone today.
Ukraine's president is expected at the White House tomorrow.
Paul Hunter reports.
Nice to be with you.
Almost exactly two months after U.S. President Donald Trump sat down with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska.
A summit Trump said was aimed at finding peace in Ukraine.
Today, a follow-up phone call between the two.
We just had a call, as you know, with President Putin.
I thought it was a very good call.
Trump is believed to be frustrated that ending the war has proven elusive.
Russia attacked Ukraine in 2022.
Though Trump has often said he could end it quickly, the fighting rages on.
We think we're going to get, we hope we're going to get it stopped.
I thought this would be very quick.
And it's turned out to be, who would think I did Middle East before I did this?
Trump announcing he and Putin will soon now sit down for another face-to-face in Hungary,
as Trump put it in a truth social posting, to see if we can bring this inglorious war to an end.
Trump also announcing today
meetings now set for next week
between U.S. and Russian officials
ahead of the sit-down with Putin.
All of it, just a day
before Trump meets with Ukrainian
President Vladimir Zelensky at the White House.
On the agenda with Zelensky
said Trump to talk about his
call today with Putin.
Will Putin and Zelensky
ever sit down for talks?
I mean, we have a problem. They don't get along
too well, those two. And it's
sometimes tough to have meetings, so we may
do something where we're separate, but separate but equal. This is a terrible relationship the two
of them have, and it's one of those things. The location of the meeting, Hungary, under Hungarian
Prime Minister Victor Orban, has raised some eyebrows, both Trump and Putin, on good terms with
Orban. But Zelensky has lately accused Hungarian drones of crossing into Ukraine. Orban then
replying, Ukraine is not a sovereign state. Can progress now be made? said,
White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt.
I think the president is always willing to take a chance at diplomacy.
And this war, he has always said, is going to have to end at the negotiating table.
And so he's, you know, he never gives up and he's willing to pursue it.
Added Trump, in his words, I'll get it stopped.
Paul Hunter, CBC News, Washington.
The UN's head of humanitarian affairs says Gaza needs more aid urgently.
Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians have returned to their home.
in recent days, and many need food, medicine, and other vital supplies.
But a key border crossing with Egypt remains closed.
Tom Perry has that story.
At Nasser Hospital in Gaza, Ibrahim Kalab sits beside a bed where his son, 18-year-old Hassan,
lies motionless.
His body thin, his eyes covered with bandages.
Hassan suffered a gunshot wound more than two months ago,
while out seeking food. His father says he needs to see a specialist on the other side of the
Rafa crossing in Egypt. If the crossing doesn't open and he can't go abroad for treatment,
I'll lose him, he says. Israel says it's preparing to open Rafa and allow people to pass through.
Israel's foreign minister has been quoted as saying that could happen as early as Sunday.
But Israel, which is furious with Hamas over its failure to return the remains of.
of all Israeli hostages from Gaza insists humanitarian aid will not be allowed through Rafa,
arguing that was never agreed to in the ceasefire deal.
Aid trucks have been entering Gaza through other checkpoints,
and humanitarian agencies say they are making progress, reestablishing a network of food distribution points.
Tom Fletcher, the UN's Undersecretary General for Humanitarian Affairs, visited Rafa today and says,
all crossings into Gaza need to open so more aid can flow through.
We want to see Raff open. We want to see all the crossings open. You know, aid can never be a
bargaining ship. That's not just me saying that. That's the rules. That's the law.
Inside Gaza, Rachel Cummings says she's cautiously optimistic after seeing truckloads
of aid finally arriving. Cummings is with Save the Children working in central Gaza.
Food, fuel and medicine are getting in, she says, but it's still not enough.
The needs of children haven't changed since the announcement of a ceasefire.
We're still seeing malnourish children in the clinic, children with diarrhea, with pneumonia, with skin infections.
What we need to be able to support children to alleviate the suffering is the human's home supplies and the way to do that.
The most efficiently is to open all land crossings into Gaza.
Cumming says after two years of war, people in Gaza are exhausted.
The scale of destruction in the territory, she says, is extraordinary.
The people of Gaza need all the help they can get.
Tom Perry, CBC News, Cairo.
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Many people take them for health reasons or to bulk up,
but there are new warnings about protein powders
and potentially harmful, heavy metal.
After testing nearly two dozen products,
experts found several of them exceeded the safe limits of lead.
Alison Northcott breaks down the findings and the safety risks.
It's a great way to supplement additional protein in your diet.
Strength and conditioning coach, Mia Nikolive,
at Back Alley Barbell in Toronto
says a lot of her clients
use protein powders regularly.
It is quite often hand in hand
with strength-based training, fitness trainings.
But an investigation by the nonprofit organization
Consumer Reports
tested 23 protein powders in the U.S.
and found two-thirds contained more lead
in a single serving
than their food safety experts say
is safe to consume in a day.
And some of the products had more than 10 times
the levels that our experts say is safe.
Paris Martino is an investigative journalist at Consumer Reports in New York.
There are a couple that had really concerning levels of lead, and those are experts say,
hey, we think you should kind of just avoid taking these all together.
There are others. We recommend kind of limiting your usage.
There are others that seem fine to take daily, and even when we found no lead in.
While Consumer Reports experts say people should not consume more than 0.5 micrograms of lead per day,
food safety professor Lawrence Goodrich at the University of Guelph in Ontario
says no amount of lead is safe to consume.
If you are regularly consuming these products and they contain lead,
then that is building up in your body over time.
And that can lead to systemic problems such as in children,
neurodevelopmental problems, in adults, cognitive decline, mood disorders,
chronic kidney disease, and even reproductive effects.
The report found plant-based protein powders were,
among those with the most lead, in part because plants can be contaminated by the soil or
air while they're growing, says Goodrich.
Unlike animals, plants cannot metabolically filter out the lead.
Some of the companies named by consumer reports pushed back against the findings.
One brand, Hewell, called the report alarmist and said its own independent tests
show its products meet globally recognized food safety standards.
Naked Nutrition said its vegan mass gainer product has a larger serving size than most
protein powders, and the data does not provide an accurate apples-to-apples comparison.
Some of the products tested are available for Canadians to purchase online.
Neither Health Canada nor the Canadian Food Inspection Agency answered our questions by
deadline.
Back at the gym, Nikolaiev says it's all about moderation.
If you're worried, have a little less.
Consumer reports suggest before buying or consuming a protein powder, do some research to find out
exactly what might be in it.
Alison Northcott, CBC News, Montreal.
We closed tonight with the Toronto Blue Jays
and another kind of bird that was feeling the heat
or maybe not enough of it.
Way back into the seats.
Fifth home run of the night for the Blue Jays.
It's 13.
The Jays had a much needed playoff win in Seattle,
but the team and their fans
weren't the only ones feeling relief last night.
Earlier in the series on Thanksgiving Monday,
the American broadcast team from Fox Sports
celebrated that holiday
on the air. Canadian Thanksgiving
we've got to celebrate accordingly.
Do you have a plate? I don't want to use my score sheet.
Commentators, Joe Davis and John Smoltz,
enjoying a turkey dinner in Toronto.
But later, the studio crew went to the video review
and thought the butterball their colleagues had eaten
looked foul.
That turkey looks a little pink to me.
Some manila poisoning.
They pulled that turkey out of the oven and little early.
Joe Davis, best of luck. You did a great job
with the game. I just hope the tum-tum is okay
in a couple of hours, boy.
Just like the Blue Jays, the Fox Sports
team bounced back for the game
last night, reassuring everyone
their Canadian Thanksgiving turkey
was cooked to perfection.
And guys, the turkey might have been a little bit pink,
but it might have been a smoke turkey.
And that could have been a smoke cream.
That's correct.
And we're all feeling just fine.
That's correct.
There will likely be some queasiness across Canada
tonight with no.
nervous Jays fans watching another crucial game and hoping their team isn't cooked.
Thank you for joining us. This has been your world tonight for Thursday, October 16th.
I'm Susan Bonner. Talk to you again.
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