Your World Tonight - Palestinians to return to northern Gaza , Trump puts tariffs on Columbia, legal battle over bergamot, and more

Episode Date: January 26, 2025

Israel's prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu says tens of thousands Palestinians will soon be able to return to northern Gaza. They have been blocked by they Israeli military since Saturday - after Israel accused Hamas of violating the ceasefire agreement. It comes as U.S. President Donald Trump suggests people in Gaza should be cleared out - and be taken in by neighbouring countries Egypt and Jordan.Also: Donald Trump is imposing retaliatory measures against Columbia, after the country rejected two U.S. military planes carrying deported migrants. The measures include a 25 per cent tariff on all imports and visa restrictions. And Columbia is responding with tariffs of its own.And: Bergamot is a citrus fruit grown almost exclusively in southern Italy - prized for its refreshing, complex aroma that's used in perfumes and cosmetics. But recent discoveries that bergamot juice could have medicinal properties has led to a dispute over who controls its brand.Plus: Educators combatting misinformation about the Holocaust, more liberal MPs put their support behind Mark Carney, testing un-jammable drones in Ukraine, and more.

Every language is a note in the symphony of our heritage. Together, they create a harmony that cannot be silenced. Discover your voice on the new APTN Languages TV channel. This is a CBC Podcast. Hi, I'm Stephanie Scanderis and this is your World Tonight. On the podcast, Mark Carney continues to gather support in his campaign to replace Justin

Trudeau while another Liberal MP is booted from the race. Also we'll look at the push to improve Holocaust education, after a survey suggests a growing number of young Canadians believe the history is exaggerated. And in Italy, a legal battle over control of a valuable citrus fruit. But first, the U.S. president floats the idea of resettling Palestinians outside of Gaza. Tens of thousands of Palestinians will soon be able to return to northern Gaza. Israeli forces have been blocking the route north after accusing Hamas of violating the terms of the ceasefire agreement. Those sticking points are now resolved, Israel's prime minister says.

Meanwhile, a suggestion by US President Donald Trump that Gazans should be cleared out of the strip has set off a furious reaction. Chris Brown is in Jerusalem with more. A sea of people desperate to resume their lives amid Gazans destruction stretched for hundreds of meters near the territories Netzerim corridor. Many walked and carried bags filled with their possessions, while others strapped mattresses, carpets, and anything they could carry onto vehicles. All were attempting to return to neighborhoods in Gaza's north, only to be blocked because of disagreements between Israel and Hamas over the release of a hostage, Arbel Yehud. But as they waited, comments

Donald Trump made about their future in Gaza as he flew on Air Force One ricocheted across the Middle East. You're talking about probably a million and a half people and we just clean out that whole thing. By clean out, Trump told reporters that Jordan and Egypt

should permanently or temporarily build housing for Palestinians so they can live there instead. It's an incendiary suggestion, as hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were uprooted from their homes when Israel was created in 1948 and during subsequent wars. This is our country, our land, in the land of our ancestors. You want to live and die in it," said Sayah al-Sikwali, as word of Trump's comments spread throughout the enormous crowd. A Hamas official in Egypt also said Palestinians will never leave Gaza, and Jordan's foreign

minister gave it a firm no, as did the head of the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank. I am afraid he didn't learn... Whether Trump's comments represent a shift in U.S. policy is unclear. But Israeli analyst Yonatan Zarev, who worked on the Oslo peace accords 30 years ago, says displacement is the worst possible solution. There is no Palestinian as far as I know that can accept his deal, okay, what he calls deal. Who should govern Gaza and how are existential questions

facing Palestinians and Israelis as both sides work to implement the ceasefire, after a second, successful hostage-prisoner exchange on Saturday. While Israelis celebrated, Benjamin Netanyahu's government has refused to discuss its long-term plans, and some at a rally in Tel Aviv said they fear without it, war will resume. Zeev Shani is a retired Israeli Air Force engineer. We don't have to just conclude bring back the hostages. We have to think of the date of tomorrow.

As for everyone waiting to head north, a solution may be close. The Israeli hostage Arbel Yehud, who Israel wanted returned last weekend, will be swapped before Friday, along with two other hostages, and that Palestinians could be on the move north again as early as Monday. Chris Brown, CBC News, Jerusalem. Meanwhile in Lebanon, health authorities say Israeli soldiers have killed at least 22 people and wounded more than 100, as the deadline for Israel's military withdrawal passed.

Philipp Lee Shanach reports. Despite warnings from Lebanese and Israeli armies that the area was still too dangerous thousands of civilians tried to return to their villages along the border of southern Lebanon and northern Israel to survey the devastation. Hussein Sarrour accuses the Israeli defense forces of needless destruction. We arrived to see the village was reduced to rubble out of a desire for revenge. Before the ceasefire it was partially destroyed, now it's totally destroyed, he says. Israel was supposed to have withdrawn from the area as laid out by the ceasefire agreement

that ended the Israel-Hezbollah war in late November. The 60-day deadline for the IDF to leave expires today. Thousands of protesters confronted the Israeli army demanding that they leave immediately. Andrea Tenenti is with the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon. So we are on the ground at the moment together with the Lebanese army to try to de-escalate the tension. But he says the international peacekeepers cannot deal with the protesters.

This is something for the Lebanese army to deal with. We don't have that that mandate of dealing with the civilians. The Lebanese Health Ministry says IDF soldiers opened fire on civilians. Danny Nadal is with the Munk School of Global Affairs at the University of Toronto. The movement of people back into those areas was in part driven by Hezbollah itself to try to force the situation and Israel made the decision that it made. He says the withdrawal of IDF and Hezbollah forces along the border region will create a vacuum

that UN forces cannot fill. Withdrawal of IDF and Hezbollah forces along the border region will create a vacuum that UN forces cannot fill. They are essentially an observation mission that don't have the mandate or the capabilities to engage either with the IDF or with Hezbollah or with civilians. The US has agreed to Israel's request for an extension to the planned withdrawal, which it says is necessary to destroy Hezbollah infrastructure still in the region. They now have until February 18th.

Nadal says the IDF is in no hurry to leave. They just don't have the confidence that the Lebanese armed forces and UNIFIL can prevent Hezbollah from flooding back into those areas. And he says it's possible Israel wants to expand the planned buffer zone between northern Israel and southern Lebanon which was part of the ceasefire deal. Philippa Shenok, CBC News, Toronto. Foreign Affairs Minister Melanie Jolie says a Canadian Armed Forces veteran who was missing in Afghanistan is now safe in

Qatar. David Lavery, known as Canadian Dave, frequently went to Afghanistan for humanitarian work. The Veterans Transition Network raised the alarm that Lavery was detained by the Taliban last November at the Kabul airport. That group is now calling him a Canadian hero. In a post on X, Jolie thanked her counterpart in Qatar for helping facilitate Lavery's release. for helping facilitate Lavary's release. Still ahead, nearly three years since Russia's invasion of Ukraine, the war is still going on, but the technology involved is changing. Ukrainian soldiers are working on a new kind of drone that is unjamable.

We'll take you to Kharkiv to explain coming up on your World Tonight. U.S. President Donald Trump is hitting back against Colombia, ordering retaliatory measures after the country rejected two U.S. military planes carrying deported migrants. Caroline Bargout has the latest from Washington. If you're in a country illegally, you're on the table. That is the message from the White House's so-called border czar, Tom Homan. For the past several days, military planes have been taking rounded up undocumented migrants from the U.S. and flying them back to their home countries. Homan says that will continue. Every time you enter this country illegally, you violated a crime under Title 8, United States Code 1325. It's a crime.

So if you're in the country illegally, you've got a problem. But today in Colombia, the country wouldn't let two U.S. military aircraft carrying deported migrants land. Colombian President Gustav Petro posted on X that a migrant is not a criminal and must be treated with dignity and respect and should be flown back on civilian planes.

Trump fired back on his platform Truth Social, saying he plans to place 25% emergency tariffs on all Colombian goods coming into the U.S. and it will go up to 50% in one week. He's also calling for a travel ban and sanctions on the Colombian government. In response, Petro is threatening to impose his own 50 percent tariffs on American goods. Trump says the U.S. will not let the country violate its legal obligation to, quote, accept the criminals they forced into the United States. If you're going to have an immigration system and you're going to have a functioning immigration system, then part of it needs to be about deterrence, needs to be about

consequences that... Earlier today, Trump's former acting U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security, Chad Wolf, defended the president's deportation plans. Again, they're a criminal alien that you're going to be targeted for removal and we're going to send officers out to do just that. After Trump threatened sanctions and tariffs on Colombia, Petro said he would make his presidential plane available to transport Colombian citizens back to their home country.

U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said Petro initially approved the flights, but canceled his authorization once the planes were in the air. Last week, Trump signed an executive order allowing ICE agents to enter churches and schools — something they weren't allowed to do until now. U.S. Vice President J.D. Vance supports the move. Exactly. We empowered law enforcement to enforce the law everywhere to protect Americans. When asked if he thought it would have a chilling effect on parents who are afraid to send their

kids to school, Vance said this. I desperately hope it has a chilling effect on illegal immigrants coming into our country. On Friday, Mexico refused to allow a flight carrying deported migrants' land in its country, whereas Guatemala accepted two flights last week. This is just the beginning. As Trump has signaled, he has no plans to let up till millions of undocumented immigrants are expelled from the country. Caroline Bargoud, CBC News, Washington.

The endorsements keep rolling in for Mark Carney to replace Justin Trudeau. The number of Liberal MPs supporting the former Bank of Canada governor is roughly double that of his main rival. Chrystia Freeland is now positioning herself as an outsider, saying she's taking on the Liberal establishment. JP Tasker has the latest. Carney! Carney! Carney! establishment. JP Tasker has the latest. Liberal leadership contender Mark Carney is stacking up high-profile endorsements in the race to replace Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. We're joining forces to help Canada at a very critical moment. Industry Minister Francois-Philippe Champagne, a key organizer in Quebec, is the latest top Liberal joining team, CARNI. And I think that together we could be a really great economic team for the country. This is a moment where we need to restore confidence in our country.

So far, 52 Liberal MPs have thrown their support behind the former Bank of Canada governor compared to 26 for his main opponent, Christian Freeland. I seem to be the choice of many of the liberal MPs. More than a dozen cabinet ministers are backing Carney, even though they worked closely with Freeland for much of the last decade. Here's the next leader of Little Card and I hope the next prime minister can.

Here's Mark Carney. Housing minister Nathaniel Erskine-Smith is one of them. I do think that Mark offers a better chance to unite the country in standing up against tariffs. Freeland, the former deputy prime minister, says Carney is drawing so much support because he's a liberal insider. It is certainly looking like Mark is the choice of the liberal establishment.

It is certainly looking like he is the PMO's candidate. The Conservatives meanwhile are trying to tie Carney to the unpopular Liberal government. Framing the caucus endorsements as a sign things won't change if Carney gets the top job. Conservative MP Melissa Lantzman. He is the architect of the carbon tax and Canadians want answers about what they're going to pay. Erskine Smith and Lantzman squabbled outside a Carney campaign event in Toronto.

I want to know what you promised Mark Carney. I want to buy you a drink. Perfect. We want to know what Mark Carney promised Mr. Erskine Smith for his endorsement today. So I hope that you asked him. In a letter to Carney today, Conservative leader Pierre Poliev is also demanding the frontrunner quote commit to banning any prior Trudeau minister from serving in your cabinet. Carney laughed it off.

I think he's scared is the first thing. Why is he writing me a letter on a Sunday morning? The Liberal leadership race lost one of its candidates today, narrowing the list to five contenders. The party stepped in to block MP Chandra Araya from running. The committee reviewing leadership candidates said he didn't meet their criteria. To vote in this race, Liberal supporters have to register with the party by Monday at 5 p.m. Eastern. JP Tasker, CBC News, Ottawa. Prime Minister Trudeau is in Poland this evening where on Monday he will attend

events to mark the 80th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz. More than a million people were killed in that concentration camp during the Holocaust. Most of them were Jewish. Now a survey suggests a growing number of young Canadians are questioning that history and educators are finding new ways to make sure the next generation doesn't fall victim to misinformation. Sam Sampson tells us how. This is our reflection wall. Coloured stickers dot a white wall at the Vancouver Holocaust Education Centre,

a checklist for visitors leaving the Age of Propaganda exhibit. Have you fact-checked information? Do you check a source before you put it online? Holocaust education has always included critical thinking, but in an age of misinformation executive director Hannah Morazzi says it's become a major focus. I saw something on twitter the other day that said Hitler was right and my stomach just turned and so I think it's more important than ever that students and learners of all age be given the opportunity to learn what actually happened.

UNESCO and the United Nations have published concerns of social media feeding global denialism, stating almost half of Holocaust-related content on Telegram, for example, denies or distorts the facts. Learning about the Holocaust is also learning about why we cannot allow these sorts of ideologies to regrow. McEwen University instructor, Reagan Lepis, tackles critical thinking in her Edmonton-based literary courses. Her students explore books and films about the Holocaust. Okay, I'm being presented with this piece of media. What is it that I should be taking away from this? Is it to explore emotion or am I supposed to take this as indicative

and authentic? As survivors age the days of first generation holocaust survivors visiting classrooms are coming to an end but many students are still curious about them. I'd probably ask how it affected the people around them and themselves personally. Probably just ask them how they're doing like if they've had any generational trauma from that. It's an interesting question. Edmontoni and Steve Schaeffer is a third generation Holocaust survivor. Both his paternal grandparents survived forced labor camps. His grandfather died with an Auschwitz ID tattoo on his forearm. I think that almost every Jewish person you talk to wonders who amongst the non-Jewish population around them

would feel comfortable hiding them. If something like this were to happen again? Yeah. So in terms of intergenerational trauma, I think almost all Jews suffer from that. Schaeffer pushed the Alberta government for mandatory Holocaust education in schools, something the province is still fully integrating. Without it, not only the fear of another Holocaust against the Jewish people, but then this hate could be directed to any identifiable group and anybody could become the target of an organized systematic policy whereby they're eradicated.

Still Schaeffer says he won't be intimidated. He chose to speak to us he says because he has hope for the next generation. Sam Sampson, CBC News, Edmonton. Next month will mark three years since Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine and as the war drags on both militaries are increasingly relying on drones for surveillance and attacks. Most of those are brought down by GPS jamming, which sends the drones off course. Briar Stewart tells us about a Ukrainian unit working on testing an unjammable drone.

In a remote field in Ukraine's Kharkiv region, soldiers with a drone unit get ready for a test flight, using a new type of drone which some say could be a game changer. One soldier holds a controller and looks into a pair of goggles to see a clear image projected from the drone's camera. Throughout the war, the use of drones has increased dramatically, with Russia and Ukraine outfitting the devices with munitions, like grenades. But this drone is different, because instead of relying on a wireless signal, it stays tethered to the launch site by a thin, barely visible fiber optic cable.

So far with this technology, we can bypass all all drone jamming systems, says one soldier who goes by the call sign CRAB. As drone use has increased, both Ukraine and Russia have come to rely heavily on jammers, which interfere with the radio signals between the drone and the operator. The ones using the fiber optic cables are immune. If you use fiber, they can't detect these drones only by the sound. Vlad, who only wanted to be identified by his first name, helped design this fiber optic drone.

He takes CBC News through a basement that has become a production facility. It is our spool. It is fiber inside. And that cable will unravel as the drone flies like a fishing line but not so strong as fishing line right now they're flying ones that have enough cable to travel 10 or 20 kilometers which is about the same range as the smaller quadcopter drones being used on the battlefield but the fiber drones are a little heavier and can't maneuver as quickly in the air. Vlad and his team are about to start testing a new version that has a range of 30 kilometers.

All the drones are designed to crash into their target and explode. Troy Smothers is a former U.S. Marine who has been working with Ukrainian designers and drone pilots in the country's Northeast. We've got a bunch of nine drones up in the air, reconnaissance drones. While he thinks fiber drones are the new frontier in warfare, he admits there are implications beyond the battlefield. You're not putting this genie back in the bottle. Outside of war zones, security agencies can use jammers to take down suspicious drones

flying near sensitive areas like a government building. And unlike in war zones, police forces can't really be using anti-drone machine guns in busy public places to try to bring them down. They're already looking for effective countermeasures to go against fiber. And it is, you know, warfare always evolved. And that's evident in Ukraine, which has become a key testing ground. Briar Stewart, CBCot, a citrus fruit grown almost exclusively in southern Italy.

It's prized for its refreshing, complex aroma that's used in perfumes and cosmetics and famously Earl Grey tea. Now, recent discoveries that bergamot juice could have medicinal properties has led to a dispute over who controls its brand. Megan Williams has that story. Farm workers in an orchard crowded with bergamot trees snip off the green fruit gleaming in the sunshine. I fill about 40-45 bins a day, says Ajit Singh, a long-time worker here from Punjab. Each morning, instead of coffee, I drink half a glass of bergamot juice, he says, to keep my glycemic index low. Helping stave off diabetes is just one of the many benefits research attributes to bergamot.

The bergamot grown here in Reggio Calabria is a miracle, says the head of the local producers' consortium Ezio Pizzi. The meeting of the Mediterranean and Ionian seas along our coast creates a one-of-a-kind microclimate, giving the fruit qualities you won't find in other bergamot. Twenty years ago, Pizzi secured the prized Protected Designation of Origin status from the EU to recognize Reggio Calabria bergamot's unique qualities. Now he's pushing to expand that status to cover the juice too. But for centuries it was the fruits essential oil extracted from its peel, while still green, that made land-owning

families like Pizzi's wealthy. The citrusy floral smelling oil repels mosquitoes and flies, is a powerful disinfectant, and most valuable of all, enhances the longevity and diffusion of a fragrance, for years a key ingredient in French perfumes, and Earl Grey tea. But the actual fruit was cast aside for centuries. It wasn't until 1995 that local historian and researcher Vittorio Camminiti tested its juice. At first it was awful, nauseatingly bitter, he says. Then we experimented with mature orange-colored bergamot, which tasted

delicious. He baked a cake that won a contest and studies followed linking bergamot juice to lower blood pressure and cholesterol, drawing new producers into the market like Fabio Trumfio. The problem is that bergamot must be there. Who want their own special EU certification to protect the fruit from other producers outside the area. As bergamot producers jostle for control of their trademark, a larger issue looms. With climate change-caused drought,

some of the branches and fruit are drying, and Calabria's newfound bounty is under threat. Megan Williams, CBC News, Reggio Calabria. One of Adele's classics there. Hard to believe Rolling in the Deep came out 14 years ago in 2011. Another of Adele's moments from that era is resurfacing. It's about a house, one in the English countryside, that she moved into for six months in 2012 to get away from the paparazzi and which she showed to Anderson Cooper and his 60 minutes crew. This is just safety, this house. That's why you're out here? Yeah.

Just because, for privacy? Yeah. As they're looking at the layout, ten bedrooms, ten bathrooms, pool, helicopter pad, Adele, who's then 23 years old, casually says this. This house is a bit of a cliché, really. This bit's all quite scary, really. There's a convent for a little while. Have you ever seen The Shining?

Oh, work and no play. That comment ended up being the basis for stories in magazines like Hello about Adele's haunted mansion. Hello from the other side. All these years later, the owner of the house says he's the one facing the real nightmare in trying to sell it. He says he's had it on the market for 14 years at a price of £5.75 million. That's more than 10 million Canadian dollars.

But despite full marketing efforts, including a national PR campaign, he's only ever received one offer, which the prospective buyer withdrew after learning about the supposed haunted history. The owner says Adele blighted the property and continues to affect its reputation to this day. So what's a haunted, sorry, not haunted house owner to do? He's requesting permission to convert it into three separate units plus a cottage. No word yet on whether Adele's old comments are influencing the council's decision on

that. We'll leave you with more classic Adele. This is Rumour Has It on your world tonight. I'm Stephanie Scanderis. Thanks for listening. ["Rumour Has It"] Let go, oh you got your head in the clouds, you made a fool out of me. And boy, you're bringing me down. You made my heart melt and I'm cold to the core.

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