Your World Tonight - Parliament resumes, Kirk investigation, U.K. immigration, and more

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

How Canadians can afford housing and groceries were top of the agenda as the House of Commons began its fall sitting. Opposition leader Pierre Poilivere was back in his chair after losing his seat in Ottawa, then winning a byelection in Alberta. He and Prime Minister Mark Carney faced off for the first time in Question Period. We’ll have the details of how that went, and the plans and promises on the economy.And: Authorities in Utah get ready to lay charges for the murder of Charlie Kirk, but in the meantime release details about the investigation, including DNA evidence they say they found at the scene.Also: British opinion polls suggest people have a new concern eclipsing affordability — immigration. Many are expressing their anger at the illegal arrival of migrants across the English Channel — more than 30,000 so far this year.Plus: Pilot project to cut water use in Quebec, a man accused in the death of an Indian family in 2022 is now in custody, identifying the dead in Ukraine, and more.

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He missed the largest tax cut for 22 million Canadians. A homecoming in the House of Commons with Pierre Pauliev back to his post as leader of the opposition, squaring off for the first time against Prime Minister. Mr. Mark Carney in question period as MPs returned to Ottawa for a busy fall session. Welcome to your world tonight. I'm Susan Bonner. It is Monday, September 15th, just before 6 p.m. Eastern, also on the podcast. He had a text message exchange in which he claimed that he had an opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and he was going to do it because of his hatred for what Charlie stood for. The FBI says it has new evidence in the shooting death of Charlie Kirk. physical traces of the suspect in the sniper's nest to a digital footprint that allegedly

includes a plan to kill. While the Trump administration blames political opponents, and the murder that shocked America continues to divide it. It was a never-before-seen matchup that covered a lot of familiar territory. Mark Carney and Pierre Pauliev had their first incident. encounter on the floor of the House of Commons, and the two leaders returned to the major issues the federal government was facing when the House was last in session, with Canadians expecting them to deliver. Tom Perry leads our coverage tonight. Questions oral, oral questions, the Honorable Leader of the Opposition.

The last time Mark Carney faced Pierre Palliev in a debate was during the election. Pauliev lost his seat in that campaign, but clawed. his way back into the House of Commons by winning a safe conservative riding in Alberta over the summer. And I thank the Prime Minister for calling a prompt by election. I wonder if one day he might regret that decision. The opposition leader made light of what he called his late return to Parliament, but very quickly turned his sights on the Prime Minister, who when it comes to politics is still a novice. We have a liberal Prime Minister breaking promises, making excuses, running massive deficits with costs, crime, and chaos out of control.

Mr. Speaker, when will the Prime Minister match the grand promises with the real change Canadians need? Carney, who until today had faced Polyev's understudy in the Commons, former conservative leader Andrew Shear, struggled on this first outing to keep up with his more seasoned opponent. Mr. Speaker, I understand the minister or the minister. Mistakenly referring to Pahliav as a minister repeatedly running long on his answers, answering one French question in English, all under relentless heckling from the opposition benches. We need to be clear. We need to be clear about the scale of the crisis we are in.

We need to be clear about the scale of investment that we need. $60 billion in new projects announced last week. 200 billion in investment announced last week. 100 billion housing investment announced just yesterday. It's perhaps not surprising. Carney, the rookie MP, came up short against Pollyev, a man who has spent most of his adult life in politics. Question period is, however, just one part of Parliament's daily routine.

The liberal government has legislation it needs to pass and priorities it wants to pursue. government house leader Steve McKinnon hopes that along with debate, there's also cooperation. There's a lot of work to do this fall. And this place works best when we work together. That work will include a budget, which will of course mean more questions for the Prime Minister, from the Conservatives and from their leader. Tom Perry, CBC News, Ottawa. You can expect a lot of those questions to focus on Canada's struggling economy. The Prime Minister says it is his priority this fall, but fixing it won't be easy.

There are affordability pains and a lingering U.S. trade war. Mark Carney says help is coming in his first budget, but critics warn it could dig the country deeper into debt. Rafi Bujucanian explains. It's substantial and needs to be dealt with. Government House leader Stephen McKinnon says there is no sugar-coding the scope of the deficit, even as he says his colleagues have been directed to find savings. Mr. Carney has made it very, very clear that all ministers and all departments must participate in making the government more efficient, making sure that the programs that we invest in are delivering results.

Just what exactly substantial means is a mystery for now. The last projected deficit was $62 billion, leaving the door open to this kind of question from conservative of MPs like Greg McLean. You're going to break $100 billion? And this kind of attack by official opposition leader Pierre Palliev in the House of Commons. This is a prime minister who said we'd have the fastest growing economy in the G7. We have the fastest shrinking economy in the G7. He said grocery prices would go down.

They're going up faster than ever before. Prime Minister Mark Carney warning in response of the stark moments ahead. We need to be clear about the scale of the crisis we are in. We need to be clear about the scale of investment that we need. Those investments so far include a $9 billion increase in defense spending, $13 billion for the federal government's new housing agency, unspecified amounts for the new so-called nation-building projects announced last week, like expansions of the Port of Montreal or British Columbia's liquefied natural gas terminal's second phase,

also unspecified exactly where the government will find its cuts. This government has to do two things at the same time. Francis Donald is chief economist at the Royal. Bank of Canada. She says Ottawa will have to extend a helping hand to Canadians working in sectors who have been hit hard by American tariffs in the ongoing trade war with the U.S. While it also looks for opportunities to make historic investments into the economy. Balancing those short-term needs with the long-term ones is going to be the biggest issue with this budget. How do they fine-tune this?

That's a balance. The rest of the House will be watching closely from the NDPs Alexandre Bulriss. good jobs, unionized jobs, and also a real housing plan. To Yves Francois Blanchet of the bloc Quebecois. What will there be in that budget? I just do not know. In this minority parliament, the Liberals need the support of at least one opposition party to pass the budget. The fiscal document is expected sometime this fall, an unusually late time of the year, especially after months of economic uncertainty.

Rafi Bucan, Yon TBC News, Enn-WOW. Voters in Newfoundland and Labrador will head to the polls on October 14th. Liberal leader John Hogan became premier in May. Today, he asked the lieutenant governor to dissolve the legislature. It was the last day possible for that request under the province's fixed election date legislation. Coming right up, new developments in the Charlie Kirk murder investigation, as police say they have a note and DNA, linking the suspect to the shooting, and in the UK, an anti-immigration movement grows louder.

After more than 100,000 people flood the streets of London. Later, we'll have this story. Sacrificing one crop over another for lack of water, trucking the resource in to ensure residents have enough. Just some examples of the lengths Quebec communities went to during a summer of drought and heat. This year was the most helpful situation. I'm Sarah Levin in Montreal, later on your world tonight, how the province is dealing with low water levels and why some people think more needs to be done.

U.S. investigators are sharing new details about the suspect in Charlie Kirk's murder, including what he allegedly wrote in a note prior to the shooting. It comes as reaction to Kirk's death continues to fall alone. long political lines, with thousands of people gathering today to honor the activist's legacy, while others criticized it. The CBC's Katie Simpson reports from Washington. Cash Patel joins us now. On the conservative broadcaster Fox News, FBI director Cash Patel shared new details surrounding the evidence in the Charlie Kirk murder investigation. Specifics about the suspect, 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, and a note he allegedly wrote. He had a text message exchange, he the suspect with another individual in which he claimed that he had an

opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and he was going to do it because of his hatred for what Charlie stood for. Patel also says they found Robinson's DNA on a screwdriver collected from the roof of the building where police believe the fatal shot was fired and on a towel wrapped around the alleged murder weapon, a long gun recovered in a nearby wooded area. Kirk was assassinated in front of thousands of students at Utah Valley University last Wednesday. A powerful leader within the MAGA movement, he was known for promoting controversial far-right political beliefs. Charlie Kirk did not deserve to be assassinated. Pastor Howard John Wesley, the leader of a prominent Baptist church just outside Washington, D.C., among a few publicly criticizing the way Kirk's legacy is

being praised, broadly denouncing Kirk's work and his efforts to roll back diversity and equality initiatives. I can abhor the violence that took your life, but I don't have to celebrate how you chose to live. Any criticism of Kirk has incensed the MAGA movement. Some members are scanning social media for posts celebrating his murder, amplifying them in the hopes of users being punished, with reports of some people losing. their jobs.

Kirk's legacy is being fiercely defended by Vice President J.D. Vance, who hosted a tribute episode of the Charlie Kirk Show from the White House. Charlie was the smartest political operative I ever met. Vance and other members of the Trump administration shared a mix of memories and calls to action, using the platform to place blame for Kirk's murder. We have to talk about this. incredibly destructive movement of left-wing extremism that has grown up over the last few years. And I believe is part of the reason why Charlie was killed by an assassin's bullet.

Investigators are still determining a motive. But that hasn't stopped the Trump administration from blaming perceived political opponents. Again, threatening to use federal resources to dismantle groups, they say, are problematic. Katie Simpson, CBC News, Washington. Scott Besant says the United States and China have reached a framework agreement on TikTok. This comes days before Trump's deadline that could have banned the popular app in the U.S. unless it was sold to American owners. Washington has alleged Beijing could use the app to spy on, blackmail, or censor its American users. Besant says a deal won't be confirmed until President Donald Trump speaks with Chinese President Xi Jinping this Friday.

In Britain, immigration is re-emerging as the dominant political issue in the country. It triggered a massive protest this weekend in London that at times turned violent. At the center of the tension, thousands of asylum seekers arriving in the UK and realigning British politics. Chris Brown explains. There's a new battle on the streets of Britain fought by waving Union Jacks, and the Red and White St. George's Cross and punctuated by calls for deportations and fear-mongering about immigrants.

A London rally over the weekend drew up to 150,000 people. Johnny Walker drove three hours down from Nottingham with his family to support far-right figure Tommy Robinson and his crusade against immigrants and asylum seekers. Because we don't know who they are, we don't know the press criminal record, we don't know the past history,

and they're committing some heinous crimes. Driving the anger is the ongoing illegal arrival of migrants across the English Channel. More than 30,000 so far this year have made the dangerous voyage. The two billion pounds it costs a year to house the asylum seekers, largely in neighbourhood hotels, has fuelled the backlash, and it's fanned the fears of people such as Lisa Braley. No children are safe. They walk around in gangs, you're not safe because you're usually on your own.

The anger is also being directed. at those who've arrived legally. The perception of weak borders helped propel the UK out of the European Union. But in the more than four years since Brexit, legal immigration has soared. I predicted this would turn into, and yes, I use the word, invasion.

Reform UK and its leader, Nigel Farage, have capitalised on the discord by pushing mass deportations, and Farage is surging in the polls. In the end, this is about how you strike the balance between human rights on the one hand and securing our borders. I do think that that... Labor's Home Secretary Shabana Mahmoud

says her government is slowly shifting asylum seekers out of hotels and it's tightened the rules for foreign students and healthcare workers with the result that immigration numbers have been steadily dropping. There is a degree of racism underpinning this. University of Birmingham professor and refugee expert Jenny Fillamore says immigration in the UK is far from out of control. It's all mix up. All of our social and economic problems are blamed by some people on the migrants in the country. The Conservatives initially increased immigration to boost the economy.

And now the business community is worried that reducing skilled immigrants will bring an economic cost that Britain cannot afford. Chris Brown, CBC News, London. CBC News has learned a man accused of helping smuggle an Indian family of four out of Canada has been arrested and now awaits extradition to the U.S. The Patel family froze to death trying to cross the border through Manitoba in 2022. An investigation by the Fifth Estate found the man who was just arrested had been living freely in Ontario. The Fifth Estate, Stephen DeSouza, has been following this story.

Stephen, tell us about the arrest. Well, Susan, the tragedy involving the Patel family really shocked the country, but since January of 2022, no one in Canada has faced any charges. This is the first arrest in Canada for this case. And it happened back on September 3rd, but there's been no public statements about this. And over the weekend, we received a tip. And all we know right now is that Fennell Patel is in custody, and he's awaiting extradition to the United States.

Now, this is a story we've been covering for a long time. We work to identify the Canadian smugglers involved in this tragic story. Indian police had firsthand evidence that pointed to Fenno Patel, who's not related to any of the victims, that he was responsible for moving them through Canada and actually driving him to the border that fateful night. We ended up tracking him down to a residence in Brampton, northwest of Toronto, and we tried to ask him about the case a few years ago. And what did he tell you? Well, we approached him on his driveway, but despite my questions, he just turned around and walked back inside his house. We later aired an episode in January of 2024, laying out the case against him,

and afterwards, you know, this is the part where we could never really explain what happened. Nothing happened. The RCMP would only tell us that their investigation was ongoing. So then a few months after our story aired, the FBI in the U.S. arrested a man in Chicago named Harsh Kumar Patel. Again, no relation to the others. They accused him of being the mastermind of the U.S. side of the operation. In his trial, new evidence came to light about Fennell Patel's involvement,

including key witnesses, text messages, and other. evidence linking him to the family's death. Okay, that trial wrapped in May. Where was Fennell Patel Patel during all of this? Well, the RCMP continued to say that their investigation was ongoing. Fenel Patel was just living his life freely, just moving around, freely,

even attending a highly publicized restaurant opening. So he's in custody. There's a plan to extradite him. Why not charge him in Canada? That's the first question we had, and I asked an immigration lawyer named Stephen Trest that. He says he's not surprised that Fennell Patel is being sent to the U.S.

Because that's where the smuggling organization is. So he would be looking at serious time if he's convicted. And they also have all of the witnesses there, the forensics there. So with so much evidence already gathered in the U.S., he thinks Canadian officials chose a path of least resistance to get a conviction. Now, the U.S. Department of Justice wouldn't comment on the case, and we're still waiting any word from the RCMP and the Department of Justice here in Canada to get more details. Thank you, Stephen.

My pleasure. Thank you. The CBC Stephen D'Souza in Toronto. A Quebec judge has ruled a Montreal mother accused of abandoning her child on the side of a road not criminally responsible due to a mental health disorder. The 34-year-old woman faced charges of criminal negligence causing bodily harm and unlawful abandonment of a child. Police in Ontario found the three-year-old girl alive

in a farmer's field in June following three days of intensive searches. The young girl is now in her father's custody. They left for the front heroically and are returning home anonymously. In Ukraine, a massive effort is underway to identify the remains of thousands of thousands of casualties repatriated from Russia. As families are desperate for answers, forensic investigators are overwhelmed with the painstaking work of providing closure. Breyer Stewart has that story.

Every day, vans pull up and one-by-one body bags are loaded onto stretchers and wheeled into a morgue in NEPRO. On this day, all of the bodies came from the Denebsk region near the front line. Across the city, refrigerated trucks full of bodies hum outside the hospital. Well, inside in a forensic lab, families search for answers they don't want to hear. Victoria Lance studies images on a computer.

Her 31-year-old son, Vladislav Harcove, has been missing since mid-August. What do you want people to know about your son? I just want him to be with us, she said. I don't know where he is. I want the whole world to know about this. Why take our ordinary children? Harcove, a married father of one,

was working as a contractor in central Ukraine when he was conscripted by officers while at a train station. Before he was deployed to the front line in the Harkeve region, his grandmother gave him a cross-necklace. Lance recognized it in one of the photos on file at the forensic unit. She took a DNA test and is now waiting for results to confirm that the remains the cross was brought in with was her sons.

Is it him? I hope that it was a terrible mistake, she says, just a terrible dream. It's unclear how many soldiers have been killed in Russia's invasion. Last year, Kiev said more than 40,000 had died. Tens of thousands of others are on a missing persons list. Moscow says very little about its war dead, but independent Russian media have confirmed at least 130,000 of its soldiers have been killed,

and they estimate the true number is almost double that. It's a big pressure to the systems of Russia and Ukraine. Their system is very overwhelmed. Yulia Homonitz is with the International Committee of the Red Cross and is based in Kiev. The ICRC has a forensic team in Ukraine, which provides advice and support to the local authorities. That's the main challenge to identify and to give the closure to families who are waiting, and this waiting is very long and painful.

But because of a lack of cold storage space, sometimes the bodies are buried without being named. At one cemetery in Nipro, rows of blue and yellow Ukrainian flags flutter back and forth in the wind. They're attached to wooden walls. crosses that read here is a soldier who is temporarily unidentified. Breyer Stewart, CBC News, Nipro. This is Your World Tonight from CBC News. If you want to make sure you stay up to date and never miss one of our episodes,

follow us on Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts. Just find the follow button and lock us in. It was a record-breaking summer of heat and drought in parts of Canada. For some, the challenge was wildfire. In Quebec, it was water levels. With reservoirs running low, the provincial government wants to test a new way of managing consumption. But as Sarah Levitt tells us, many are worried, it won't work. This year was the most hopeful.

In Sutton, a town northeast of Montreal, Mayor Robert Benoit talks about his town's water supply. After a drought, the only way Sutton could ensure water supply for some residents was to move water from one reservoir to another by truck. This year, the reservoirs were very low because we didn't get any rain for about 50 days, almost. So we had to use trucks of 8,000 gallons of water to get into the mountain and into our reservoirs to replenish. The strain on water supply in some parts of Quebec has the provincial government launching a water management pilot project. For the next three years, voluntary participants, including municipalities and certain industries, will monitor and report their water usage. If levels are low, they'll have to reduce

their consumption. The project will focus on central Quebec, home to the province's many cranberry fields. Come harvest time, farmers flood those fields to bring the fruit to the surface. Some say they still don't understand how the project will work and more attention needs to be paid on prevention. In Sutton, installing pumps could move groundwater to the problematic reservoir, but that's expensive. A lot of places, people are running into this problem and the government has to really take it very seriously

and helped us finance the future infrastructures. Standing in front of his farms' reservoir in Mercier just outside of Montreal, Christian Roy says he's had to make some hard, decisions this summer. The vegetable farmer points to the water level and says it's lower than it's ever been. Hwa draws the groundwater from wells to the reservoirs. He was forced to let his cucumbers rot on the vine, he says, so the broccoli could be watered and survive.

Right now, his farm barely breaks even. Huo worries each year will get worse. To ensure he'll have enough water, he'd either need to dig his wells deeper or find another source, something he can't afford. Still, Sarah Dornner, a professor at Polytechnique, Montreal, and a water expert says the project is a good first step. I'm quite optimistic and I think we're going in the right direction with these pilot projects to really look at water allocation in a way where it's quantified. Dorner says the province has been slow to start monitoring and protecting water, climate change, making it an increasingly precious resource. Sarah Levitt's CBC News, Montreal.

We end tonight at the World Athletics Championships in Tokyo and a historic night for a Canadian athlete. And a little more straight and it's up over 80 meters. It's a lifetime best for Rogers. She's won the gold with a throw of 80.51. A world champion twice in a row, an Olympic title in between, the second best throw of all time. Cameron Rogers with a record setting, gold medal winning and history. making performance in the hammer throw. The 26-year-old from Richmond, British Columbia, threw a distance of 80.51 meters.

It was the first time she'd broken the 80-meter mark, but it wasn't just a Canadian record and a personal best. Only one other woman in the sports history has ever thrown further. Afterwards, Rogers said it took a moment for it all to sink in. I feel like I took the throw. I let go of the hammer, and I knew it was a good throw, but I didn't know it was that good. And then I saw where I landed and I kind of had this moment of, wait, did that just happen?

And then it kind of hit me of shocking and exciting and I felt every emotion all at once. Rogers' throw wasn't that far off. The all-time record in women's hammer throw, a mark of 82.98 meters set by a Polish athlete in 2016. With today's performance, she successfully defended her victory at the 2023 World Championships. Rogers also won gold at last summer's Paris Olympics and is the number one ranked hammer thrower in the world. A legendary Canadian track and field career that, much like her throw today, just keeps soaring.

Thank you for joining us. This has been Your World Tonight for Monday, September 15th. I'm Susan Bonner. Talk to you again. For more CBC podcasts, go to cBC.ca.ca slash podcasts.