Your World Tonight - The search for two Nova Scotia children, COP 30 protests, Inaugural NSL championship, and more

Episode Date: November 15, 2025

It's been more than six months since anyone has seen Lily and Jack Sullivan.The two small children from rural Nova Scotia dissapeared in May. All searches so far, have turned up nothing. But their fam...ily and community are not ready to give up. They have started a new search - that is being described as a last-ditch effort before winter sets in. Also: The UN climate conference, COP 30, has reached its mid-point in Brazil. While world leaders were negotiating the world's climate future - outside the venue, thousands of protesters took to the streets, calling for countries to act urgently against climate change. And: Vancouver Rise FC has won the inaugural Northern Super League championship against AFC Toronto. The dramatic final capped a season that has packed stands across the country. Now, the federal government is backing the league with millions in new funding.  Plus: Protecting the Congo Basin rainforest, growing divisions in the Anglican church, and more

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Starting point is 00:00:50 A new search in Nova Scotia today for two children missing now for six months. Welcome to Your World Tonight. I'm Karen Hauerlock. Also on the podcast, protesters push world leaders to take urgent action against climate change at the UN climate conference in Brazil. And it's showing the youth of today that they could be doing this in the future, and it's creating more and more opportunities for women in soccer. Packed stadiums, a dramatic final and more money, a pitch-perfect first season for Canada's Northern Super League. A family and a community in rural Nova Scotia are not ready to give up hope in a search for Lily and Jack Sullivan. The two small children disappeared in May.
Starting point is 00:01:43 All searches so far have turned up nothing, and today another group of volunteers scoured the woods around where Lily and Jack went missing. As Selena Alders reports, it's being described as a last-ditch effort before winter sets in. A volunteer trudges through densely packed woods looking for any signs of Lily and Jack Sullivan. We're covering this side of the river. The young siblings were first reported missing from their home in rural Nova Scotia the morning of May 2nd, and they've not been seen since. It's sad, very sad, but it's been six months and we need some type of closure to this case. Cheryl Robinson is a close family friend and volunteering in the search. There's always hope until we have answers. We have hope, basically.
Starting point is 00:02:35 The sibling's disappearance prompted a months-long investigation, but little evidence has been found so far indicating what might have happened to Lily and Jack or where they might be. I drove down on Thursday. I just did a straight shot. The Ontario-based non-profit, please bring me home, led the charge on today's search. It helps investigate missing persons cases, but typically only after they've gone cold. We couldn't say no to the family. The group's executive director Nick Oldrieve says the family's desperation for answers prompted them to get involved.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Searchers found a few items of interest, including a blanket, a t-shirt, and a children's bicycle. But it's unclear whether these articles are connected to the siblings. So we took a picture, we sent it to the RCMP. they then, it sounds like, spoke to family, and they said that it's doesn't, it's not something they recognize. The children's grandmother, Belinda Gray, hopes they might mean something. I was hoping we were going to find a little bit more. Gray says she's grateful for the outpouring of community support, but she's becoming even more anxious as the colder months close in. I know we have a long winter to get through and we're not going to be.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I know they're out there. In the meantime, Nova Scotia RCMP continued to investigate the disappearance of Lily and Jack Sullivan and urge anyone with information on their whereabouts to come forward. Selina Alders, CBC News, Picto County, Nova Scotia. In a major reversal, U.S. President Donald Trump is rolling back tariffs on dozens of imported food products, More than 200 items, such as coffee, bananas, and beef will be exempt. It comes as Trump faces criticism over steep food prices. For the most part, the foods, when we cut back a little bit of those sales, we'll get the price down.
Starting point is 00:04:37 But they're not competitive in this country, like tomatoes and bananas and things. We don't make them in this country. So there's no protection of our industries or our food products. The Trump administration had previously dismissed concerns. tariffs led to cost of living increases, but the issue is looming larger since the Republicans lost recent elections in Virginia, New Jersey, and New York City. At least one person is dead after two planes collided in mid-air in southeastern Ontario. One plane landed safely, but the other crashed into a forest north of Cornwall near the
Starting point is 00:05:13 Quebec border. Ontario provincial police are not providing the age or gender of the person found dead at the scene. Both planes were registered to Cornwall Aviation, a flight training school. That's according to the Transportation Safety Board, which is beginning its investigation. Still ahead, a reunion 135 years in the making, a sacred pipe returns to Saskatchewan's White Cap Dakota First Nation. It was part of a large private collection
Starting point is 00:05:45 from a family in Saskatoon will tell you the story of the pipe and it's linked to a trial from the Real Rebellion centuries ago. In Winnipeg. The crowd cheers outside the Manitoba Legislature as people watch the raising of a Palestinian flag. The flag raising was approved by Premier Wab Knew to recognize the state of Palestine's independence. day. Toronto and Calgary will also raise the Palestinian flag outside their city halls in the coming
Starting point is 00:06:24 days, but some Jewish groups, including Benibirth Canada, are condemning the flag raising, saying they promote hate against Jews and will only deepen divisions. In British Columbia, the mayor of Burnaby has formally apologized to people of Chinese descent for the municipality's historic discrimination. From 1892 to 1947, Burnaby policies and practices kept Chinese Canadians from living, working, and owning businesses in the city. Here's more from Mayor Mike Hurley. Please accept our appreciation for the contributions of your parents and grandparents made to our community and their efforts for change. Our actions made life harder for them. and for all community members of Chinese descent.
Starting point is 00:07:16 For that, we are deeply sorry. Hurley says the apology is part of the Burnaby City Council's commitment to inclusivity. The UN Climate Conference, or COP 30, as it's known, has reached its midpoint in Brazil. And while world leaders negotiated the planet's climate future outside the venue today, thousands of protesters took to the streets, calling for country. countries to act urgently against climate change. Our international climate correspondent, Susan Ormiston, is in Bilem. So, Susan, you spent the morning in the middle of those protests.
Starting point is 00:07:55 What did you hear? Yes, they were loud and boisterous. Have a listen. We spoke to a young teacher, Alena Sandrosh, who called these climate talks a huge opportunity for Brazil and her city, but she was skeptical about how much could change. What are you worried about? What are you worried about the climate changes, you know, and how people don't, they look like they care, but they don't actually care. We are living in a huge contradiction. And speaking of contradictions, we saw banners and sandals.
Starting point is 00:08:42 signs protesting the Brazilian government's very recent decision to allow exploratory oil drilling off the Amazonian coast. Brazil's president is commonly known as Lula, and he defends it. A woman named Lunea does not. Is Lula disappointing? So she says that most of us are a little disappointed with Lula because of the oil and that the indigenous people want much more. of their land protected. Now, we've seen a number of indigenous protests this week, and one, protesters forced their
Starting point is 00:09:20 way into the cop venue. What are they hoping to achieve? Well, bringing the climate talks to the Amazon was in part to highlight those who are the most vulnerable, according to Brazil, and indigenous peoples here have made an impact. I spoke with a man called Wia Kuiya through an interpreter. He was sitting on the curb in the shade at the protest today. It took him 27 days to get here by boat. from Ecuador in a flotilla, crossing through three countries.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Do you think this global gathering here in Brazil will make a difference? We're going to, and what he is saying is like, from the past, governments always turn the back on them. So they're hoping with this, with the protest, now they can be heard from governments and policymakers. Well, there's a week left at COP 30. So what are we expecting to come out of the negotiations? No one is sure. That's the thing. There isn't one big communique expected as in past years. What's called climate finance is a very big issue, especially for smaller countries like the Maldives who are very vulnerable to sea level rise. Here's Tibby and Ibrahim with the Alliance of
Starting point is 00:10:31 Small Island States. That means that we have to redirect funds from our domestic budget, things that could have been spent, money that could have been spent on education, on social services, that now have to go to seawalls to freshwater solutions. So this cop is wrangling with that, also with a pledge made two years ago on how to transition away from oil and gas. But that is a very thorny diplomatic tangle, and it's not clear what, if anything,
Starting point is 00:10:59 will be agreed to here. All right. Thanks, Susan. You're welcome. Our international climate correspondent, Susan Ormiston, reporting from Baleem, Brazil. Well, far from the Amazon, European leaders, are pledging billions of dollars in funding for protecting another vital rainforest. The Congo Basin Rainforest plays a crucial role in regulating the Earth's climate.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Freelance reporter Chris Ocheringa has more on that from Kinshasa. The sounds of nature deep in the Congo Basin rainforest, often cold the lungs of Africa. This dense forest spans six countries in Central Africa, the largest share of which is in the Democratic Republic of Congo. But the trees have been cut down at a high rate in recent years. The DRC has lost 21 million hectares of tree cover from 2001 to 2024, according to a study by Global Forest Watch. That's an area roughly the size of Great Britain.
Starting point is 00:12:02 European leaders meeting at the UN Climate Summit in Brazil have promised to stop deforestation in the Congo Basin rainforest by raising 2.5 billion U.S. dollars over the next five years for conservation programs. The promise made by European leaders must be welcomed with a lot of satisfaction, says environmentalist Arvei Kimoni, because it comes at a time when funding from the United States Agency for International Development was cut by President Donald Trump after he took office. Experts say rainforests like the Congo,
Starting point is 00:12:39 basin are critical weapons in the fight against climate change, but activities like agriculture, logging, mining and hunting are encroaching on the forest. The DRC government says it's committed to finding solutions to the climate crisis. But earlier this year, authorities opened bids for oil and gas exploration in some of the country's forests, sparking an upro from conservationists. Bonaventure, Bondo, is with Greenpeace. The decision to open the Congo Basin to oil exploitation will have a big impact in terms of the disruption of the forest, the biodiversity, as well as the livelihoods of the indigenous communities, he says. The soils of the Congo Basin are rich in fossil fuels and precious minerals. Conservationists, like Antoine Tabu, from the African Wildlife Foundation, believe wealthy nations that pollute the most should pay African countries for the environmental damage.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Some people have been criticizing the decision to provide billions of funds to the DRC and other African countries, he says. They should understand that we are getting those funds because we protected our forests. We are the solution country. We give solutions. A major setback in protecting the Congo Basin rainforest is armed conflict. In recent years, rebel groups like the M23 captured territories near forest. and chased away park ranges leading to arise in illegal logging and poaching. Many in the DRC hope ongoing international mediation efforts end the conflict
Starting point is 00:14:20 and start conserving the forests for the benefit of the people. Chris Ochamringer for CBC News, Kinshasa. A court case in BC could reshape how Canada helps people at risk of an opioid overdose. Two BC activists are mounting a constitutional challenge after being found guilty of drug trafficking. They argue they were trying to save lives by giving users access to safe drugs. The Fifth of State has been investigating their case and efforts to tackle the opioid overdose crisis and found Health Canada ignored advice from its own experts that could have saved lives. Fifth, the state co-host, Stephen DeSouza, reports.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Artist T.J. Felix sits on their bed, inside their apartment in Vancouver's Mount Pleasant neighborhood. That needle that was just in their arm, Felix is now using to scratch away at a new drawing. That was a speedball, methamentanol. That's my drug of choice. Felix is 36, but has been exposed to drug since a young age. They began using to cope with.
Starting point is 00:15:39 trauma and depression. The euphoria is long, long gone. I don't really get any pleasure out of using. It's just something that at this point has become a substitute for community and therapy and everything else that functioning adults need in their daily lives. Two years ago, Felix began using that dangerous mix of fentanyl and meth after they lost access to a alternative to the toxic street supply. I started using fentanyl because I didn't have any choice and I'd never used fentanyl before. I had no one to really mentor me or show me how to use it properly. I was overdosing like upwards of twice a day for the first month there. Felix was one of 21 original members of a Compassion Club, the Drug Users Liberation Front,
Starting point is 00:16:33 or Dolf. It was shut down in 2023 and co-founder Jeremy Calicum was charged with drug trafficking. I fully believe that we had exemptions, that we had permission to operate, that we had the buy-in from authorities, and that what we were doing was absolutely and completely legal. Calicum and co-founder Eris Nix had exemptions to store and test drugs, but in 2022, Health Canada denied Dolph an exemption that would have allowed them to also sell the drugs. So they bought illegal drugs on the dark web, tested them, and they, then sold cocaine, heroin, and methamphetamine to club members. It was a way to give a safe alternative to street drugs as opioid overdose deaths were rising. People really just had no
Starting point is 00:17:21 resources or way to keep themselves safe. The fifth, the state has learned that the same year Dolf was shut down, Health Canada ignored advice and evidence from its own experts, who suggested they expand safer supply and support compassion clubs, though not those selling drugs illegally. Jordan Westfall was one of those experts. We had solutions that were available. We had evidence that showed them and it was being ignored and it was incredibly frustrating. Earlier this month, Calicam and Nix were found guilty of drug trafficking. But now they're launching a charter challenge, arguing users have a right to a safe supply. We think this is important and we think there's a real constitutional issue here that needs to be addressed if we're ever going to get
Starting point is 00:18:09 to the point where we don't have thousands of people dying every year from preventable deaths. I can't stand the thought of my friends going to jail for this, for saving lives, you know, for saving my life. Like, I'd be dead 10 times over if it wasn't for them. T.J. Felix is optimistic that society can overcome the stigma around people who use drugs. I'd be dead by now if I didn't think so. I'd have to have some short. of faith in humanity, like, otherwise, why even bother, you know? I don't want to live in a world where that's not possible. Funding for most federal safe supply programs recently ended,
Starting point is 00:18:44 and Health Canada says no new funding for safe supply is coming. Stephen D'Souza, CBC News, Toronto. And you can stream the Fifth of States investigation, the war on safe drugs on YouTube or CBC Jim. It's a historic first for Canada's women's soccer. Vancouver Rise FC has won the inaugural Northern Super League Championship in our riveting final against AFC Toronto, capping a season that's packed stands across the nation.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Well, now the federal government is backing the league with millions in new funding. Mandy Sham has more on the final, and the future it's a building. It goes to the right foot, and this time it's in, off the foot. From McCas and in, Kaylee Hunter, would there be anyone else? 17-year-old striker, Kaylee Hunter, rounding out a breakout season with the first goal of the game. The rookie of the year giving AFC Toronto an early lead, energizing young fans in the stadium. I think it's amazing, but a girl like her can be on a team. It's crazy to think that someone our own age is in this position, and it's so impressive and inspiring.
Starting point is 00:19:56 In the end, it was Vancouver Rise that road. to the occasion, winning 2-1 to take home the trophy of the first-ever NSL final. The roar of the crowd isn't just noise. It's market demand, says Diana Matheson, co-founder of the Northern Super League. I am telling you, come back to me by 2030, this is going to be a billion-dollar industry in Canada. And the federal government is buying in. Ottawa plans to invest more than $5 million to address the needs of the league. That includes upgrading training facilities being used across the country. Adam Van Coverden is the Secretary of State for Sport.
Starting point is 00:20:39 He says the investments will position Canada as a global leader in women's sport. It's time to build Canada strong. It's also time to ensure that we're supporting sport at every single level. Next year is going to be the year of sport in Canada. The league is already planning to add a seventh team in 2020. with a focus in central and western Canada. They say everybody watches women's sports, and I think that's truer than ever. For Toronto soccer coach Ashley Meen, the momentum gained from this season will be funded and focused on the next generation.
Starting point is 00:21:11 It's showing the youth of today that they could be doing this in the future, and it's creating more and more opportunities for women in soccer. Player Lipita Abdu is a forward with Vancouver Rise. She says her goals don't just involve the soccer. And if we can just inspire, like, one person, like, I'd be so happy just that. So, yeah, it means way more than just the actual sport. Like, you're just inspiring younger girls. That final whistleblown, marking not an ending, but a kickoff for the future of Canadian women's soccer.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Mandy Sham, CBC News, Toronto. The Vatican says it will return cultural items belonging to First Nations, Inuit, and Métis communities in Canada. It comes after two years of negotiations led by indigenous groups. Now, Pope Leo has given the 62 items to the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops so they can be returned. Joyce Napier is the Canadian ambassador. to the Holy See. A historic day, this is something that was important to the government because it was important to our indigenous communities. The items will be flown back to Canada on December 6th. They'll be sent to the Museum of History in Gatineau, Quebec, where their condition
Starting point is 00:22:44 will be assessed. The museum will then work with indigenous leaders to determine where the items should ultimately be returned. A Saskatchewan First Nation has waited 135 years. years to be reunited with items taken from its community. A sacred pipe was returned to Saskatchewan's White Cap Dakota Nation earlier this year. The community held a repatriation ceremony last week to honor the historical items return home. Helena Mahaluk has that story. That's all quill work and it's all colored with different designs. Frank Royal admires a ceremonial pipe adorned with pink, purple, and orange beads. For more than a century, nobody from the White Cap Dakota Nation had seen the pipe. Chief White Cap himself gifted it to Dr. Gerald Willoughby
Starting point is 00:23:31 in 1889 after White Cap was charged with treason during the Louis Reel resistance and Dr. Willoughby testified on his behalf. And he got off and so to pay him back on his death bid in 1889 he asked Gerald to come see him and gave him this pipe. Nobody knew where it went and nobody knew where the family lived until last year. The Willoughby family returned the pipe to the White Cap Dakota Nation earlier this year. The community celebrated the return of the pipe, as well as other cultural tools that were returned from a different family, including arrowheads and knives. It's very relevant for them to see what their ancestors used. Roberta Bear, an elementary school principal in the community, says these returned items
Starting point is 00:24:14 can help the next generation connect with their history. These are the tools that we need in our community to not just honor, but for our children to understand and learn about what helped our people. It's really emotional work. It takes a lot of, like there's a lot of protocol that are involved as well. Stephanie Daniluk is a community engagement manager with the Canadian Museums Association. She says the repatriation process can be difficult.
Starting point is 00:24:39 The onus is usually on the nations and the communities to look for and find within museum collections like one item at a time and bring those home kind of like often one by one. And so it's incredibly labor heavy. Frank Royal says there are more items the White Capticote
Starting point is 00:24:54 Nation hopes to bring back. Among them is a buckskin outfit that belonged to his grandfather. I would say it's part of reconciliation. Do the right thing and return these items to the owners. Royal hopes to hold another ceremony once the outfit comes home, which is currently a part of an exhibit in a small town museum. Helena Maholic, CBC News, Chief White Cap Dakota Nation. When the Anglican Church named Sarah Malali as the first woman to lead the church, it was a cause for celebration for many. But Malawi's appointment angered a growing conservative wing of the church. Now, one group of bishops is even threatening to elect its own rival archbishop, escalating a divide that's been growing for decades. Freelance reporter John Last as more.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Good morning. Please stand and join in singing our opening song. To the untrained eye, the Church of Saints Peter and Paul in downtown Ottawa, looks like any other Anglican church. But here, the new head of the Church of England wouldn't be welcome to officiate. That's because this church is part of the Global Anglican Future Conference, or Gafcon, a conservative breakaway group within the Anglican communion that does not recognize the ordination of women. Our position is that Sir Malawi is unfit to serve in this role. Paul Donison is a Canadian bishop and dean of a megachurch in Texas affiliated with Gaffcon. A man can ever be a mother and a woman can ever be a father would be the traditional sort of teaching of scripture. We extend that to the church as well to say within the
Starting point is 00:26:27 spiritual household, it needs to be a male leadership. Gafcon rose to prominence in the 2000s, in opposition to the church's moves to recognize same-sex marriage. That puts them firmly at odds with the new Archbishop of Canterbury, Sarah Mulali, who vocally supported same-sex unions as Bishop of London. 80% or so of the Anglican Communion is going to look at this appointment and say, wow, this really doesn't fit with our understanding of Anglican leadership. Experts say Gafcon still represents less than 50% of Anglicans. But Donison is right about one thing. While Anglican attendance is dwindling in many of its most progressive provinces,
Starting point is 00:27:06 its conservative membership is growing. That leaves Mulali with a delicate balancing act. Her stance on sexuality will be something very difficult for her to kind of manage. Sharon Jagger is an associate professor of religion at the University of York St. John and an expert on women in the church. Gender might take a back seat. I think she will play that down and not attempt any of the structural change that women particularly might be hoping for. But it might already be too late. In a communique, Gafcon said they would refuse to attend future church conferences or take communion from other Anglican bishops. They're also promising to elect their own rival archbishop. You know, they can call a schismatic, we can call them schismatic back.
Starting point is 00:27:50 In their communiques, Gaffgon has been careful to call this a reordering, not a break. But to those on the outside, the results will be self-evident. Yes, what's going to result probably will ultimately feel and look like two churches. The real question, though, is what is the historic true Anglican Communion? And we say we are. For CBC News, I'm John Last in honor. That's Newfoundland and Labrador's Ja Three, one of the winners last night at the Music NL Awards in St. John's. It was the culmination of the annual Music NL Week in the city, bringing together performers and others in the music industry to talk business and delight fans at five nights of shows.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Music NL also announced its honorary award winners, including singer-songwriter Dave Panting, who's been part of the Atlantic Canadian music scene for more than 40 years. Here's Dave with Going Back Home Now, off his latest album, Time and Space. This has been a place. in your world tonight for Saturday, November 15th. I'm Karen Hauerlock. Good night. home to stay.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Home back home now, back home to stay.

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