Your World Tonight - Tragedy in the Rockies, nuclear diplomacy, wine sales, protest music and more

Episode Date: June 20, 2025

Iran attends nuclear talks with European leaders as the Israel-Iran war persists. Israeli airstrikes target facilities near Tehran and Iranian ballistic missiles send millions of people to bomb shelte...rs in Israel. While the conflict shows no sign of easing, many fear the plight of Gazan civilians and Israeli hostages held by Hamas is forgotten.And: Wine sales overall are down across Canada. But there is something to raise a glass to — domestic wines are defying the trend and having a moment with no U.S. competition.Also: Like the 60s, 70s and 80s music has played a key role in political protest movements. And today is no different. No- Kings marches across the United States are galvanizing the anti Trump movement and creating a soundtrack while doing so.Plus: New details on the rockfalls that killed two in the Canadian Rockies, the House of Commons rises for the summer with Bill C-5 being passed, Truth and Reconciliation recommendations on healthcare, and more.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ten years ago, I asked my partner Kelsey if she would marry me. I did that, despite the fact that every living member of my family who had ever been married had also gotten divorced. Forever is a Long Time is a five-part series in which I talk to those relatives about why they got divorced and why they got married. You can listen to it now on CBC's Personally. This is a CBC Podcast. I was facing away from the falls when I heard just kind of a cracking sound. The whole sheet of rock was coming off and it looked like a multi-storey building and it just came down with such force and exploded.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Rocky Mountain tragedy. In a place known for breathtaking beauty, the force of nature was sudden, severe and deadly. Two people now confirmed dead in Banff National Park with investigators still combing the scene after a rock slide on a popular hiking trail. Welcome to your world tonight I'm Stephanie Scanderis it's Friday June 20th coming up on 6 p.m. Eastern also on the podcast. They're gonna vote in favor of part one but they're in opposition of
Starting point is 00:01:21 national or projects that are deemed in the national best interest. The heat rises in Ottawa on the final day before the summer break. As MPs debate a bill to boost domestic trade and build infrastructure, the Liberal government minute hurdles. A popular trail for relaxing day hikes became a sudden scene of deadly chaos. Search and rescue teams say two people were killed by falling rocks in Banff National Park yesterday. Another three are in hospital in stable condition. No one else is believed to be missing. Today, some survivors are sharing their harrowing experience. Josh McClain reports from Banff. I thought I was going to die.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Ellie Jackson's day changed in an instant, hiking with her dogs enjoying a serene waterfall in Banff National Park. I was facing away from the falls when I heard a cracking sound and I knew immediately what that sound was, was rock. A large section of the cliff next to the waterfall was breaking away, tumbling down onto the hikers below. It looked like a multi-storey building and it just came down with such force and exploded and without hesitation I got up and just started running.
Starting point is 00:02:48 I grabbed my backpack and had my camera in my hand and my dogs and I just ran as fast as I could. Terrified people fled as rock rained down on them, Nicholas Brundle and his wife among them. I've never seen anything like it. It's like you're seeing the cloud come behind us. We didn't know if you could actually outrun it or not. So we were just like obviously just yelling at her to like go go go we need to run.
Starting point is 00:03:15 In the aftermath chaos. A tower of dust billowing into the sky as distress calls went out over GPS transmitters. Help far away. Those who survived the rockfall unscathed doing everything they could to help the injured. It was honestly just amazing to see how many people stayed and even if they were still potentially in a little bit of danger they stayed to help people. First responders raced to the scene battling rugged terrain and limited cell service. When they arrived crews found a 70 year-year-old Calgary woman dead, later identified as Yuda Hinrichs, a retired professor of occupational therapy at the University of Alberta. Three other people were taken to hospital, now said to be in stable condition.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Searchers scoured the rubble using dogs and infrared drones, and this morning a second body discovered. Parks Canada says it has no reports of other missing people. I can't imagine how scary this must have been. Dan Sugar studies landslides at the University of Calgary. He says water from a melting glacier forming a lake at the top of the cliff likely led to the collapse. That lake is probably resulting in a lot of seepage of water into that rock face that yesterday unfortunately tragically released burying you know burying some hikers. A geotechnical assessment is underway to determine the stability of the rock face. Now trails in the area are starting to reopen and tourists and hikers have returned
Starting point is 00:04:42 but Bow Glacier Falls is still closed. Yesterday's rockfall changing the landscape and lives forever. Josh McLean, CBC News, Banff National Park. The House of Commons is winding down its work for the summer and MPs are getting ready to head home to their ridings. Prime Minister Mark Carney's Liberal government managed to pass some key legislation in its first sitting, but not without some controversy. Tom Perry reports. The Prime Minister's four weeks in Parliament were filled with broken Liberal promises. For the opposition, one last kick at the can before summer. Conservative MP Shubhulai Majumdar
Starting point is 00:05:20 leading his party's efforts to tear down the new government's record, government house leader Steve McKinnon leading the liberal push to build it up. Tax cut for 22 million Canadians. Check. DST off of homes for first time home buyers. Check. The Liberals under Prime Minister Mark Carney have packed a lot into their first few weeks in office. Cutting taxes, pledging to boost military spending to 2% of GDP this fiscal year, all while navigating a simmering trade war with the U.S. and actual wars in Ukraine and the Middle East. But one of the Liberals' most contentious undertakings came in the form of Bill C-5, what the government calls its One Canadian Economy Act, an act that interim NDP leader Don Davies says is being rammed through Parliament
Starting point is 00:06:12 without sufficient debate. It gives the Prime Minister what has been called Henry VIII powers to override government laws by decree. It will gut environmental protections, it will undermine labour protections, and it will also hurt or damage Indigenous rights in this country." Bill C-5 is aimed at breaking down interprovincial trade barriers and speeding up the approval process for large infrastructure and resource projects, which the government deems as being in the national interest. Some Indigenous leaders have argued the government did not properly consult with them before
Starting point is 00:06:49 proceeding, but as debate on the legislation wound down today, Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux defended the government's bill, arguing it's what Canadians voted for. On April 28th, Canadians sent a very strong message. Not only to the leader of the Liberal Party, but to all members of this House. All of us. While the NDP and Bloc Québécois both opposed C5, its passage was never in doubt.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Mr. Shear. Mr. Shear. Interim opposition leader Andrew Shear today led off his party's vote in favour of the government's legislation. Conservatives arguing that while the bill isn't perfect, speeding up approval for resource projects like pipelines is an idea they can get behind. Once it's through the House, Bill C-5 will go to the Senate as MPs go back to their writings. Tom Perry, CBC News, Ottawa.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Still ahead on the podcast, closing the gaps in health care. It's been a decade since the 94 recommendations of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. And there are still serious concerns around key promises on Indigenous health. And wine sales aren't exactly dying on the vine, but they are down substantially across the country except when it comes to Canadian labels. Plus, the sounds of a new protest movement, how the No Kings demonstrations express resistance through marches and music. That's all coming up on your World Tonight. It's a week into the war between Israel and Iran, and a new attempt at finding a diplomatic
Starting point is 00:08:35 solution is underway in Geneva. Europe's top diplomats met with the Foreign Minister of Iran, urging that country to resume negotiations with the U.S., which were derailed by Israel's opening salvo. There was no breakthrough and the exchange of powerful missiles claimed more victims. Chris Reyes reports. Another explosive day between Israel and Iran, with both sides trading strikes while fragile diplomatic talks struggled to take root. A barrage of missiles penetrated Israel's defense shield, striking the cities of Haifa and Beersheba. Iran claims it was targeting intelligence buildings.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Israel has launched attacks on dozens of targets in Iran. All this as diplomats scrambled to revive talks interrupted by Israel's initial attack. In Geneva, foreign ministers from France, Germany and the UK and the EU met with Iran's foreign minister, British Foreign Secretary David Lammy. We urge Iran to continue their talks with the United States. This is a perilous moment. Iran repeated it will not negotiate while under attack, while Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi defended Iran's nuclear program.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Our peaceful nuclear facilities have also been targeted despite their being under full monitoring of IAEA and despite the fact that attacking such facilities are absolutely banned under international law. Asked about the talks in Europe, President Donald Trump said they didn't amount to much. Iran doesn't want to speak to Europe. They want to speak to us. Europe is not going to be able to help in this. Trump said he still believes Iran was weeks or months from developing a nuclear weapon,
Starting point is 00:10:25 despite reports from U.S. intelligence saying otherwise. Then my intelligence community is wrong. He also said he was not inclined to rein in Israel to get Iran back to negotiations, suggesting Israel was winning. At the U.N. Security Council in New York, Iran requested an emergency session where Ambassador Amir Saeed Irvani accused Israel of violating international law with its attacks. Iran has exercised its inherent right to self-defense over response have complied fully with international law including humanitarian law. In response Israel's UN
Starting point is 00:11:02 Ambassador Danny Danon angrily accused Iran of lying to the Council. How dare you ask the international community to protect you from the consequences of your own genocidal agenda? Have you no shame? For years, your supreme leader has publicly and repeatedly called for the destruction of Israel and the United States. As the two sides stared each other down, a warning from the UN's Secretary General, Antonio Guterres. The expansion of this conflict could ignite a fire that no one can control. We must not let that happen.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Diplomacy hobbling forward with little to no sign it's working, as neither Iran or Israel make any promises of slowing down its strikes against each other. Chris Reyes, CBC News, New York. So with missiles flying through the air and the focus shifting to Iran, there's concern inside Israel about what it all means for what's happening on the ground in Gaza and for the Israeli hostages still being held there. Senior international correspondent Margaret Evans has that part of the story. Sound and fury raging across Middle Eastern skies,
Starting point is 00:12:19 Israel's war with Iran, masking that of another war, the one in Gaza, that's killed more than 55,000 Palestinians and where Israeli hostages are still being held, 53 of them, many no longer alive. In Jerusalem, a small neighbourhood group still reads out their names every week. Nimrod Cohen, a soldier they say. Home, now. Cohen's mother, Vicky, is at the family home in Rehovot.
Starting point is 00:12:58 The tank was burned, but... She shows us the Rubik's Cube her son used to take with him everywhere and found in the tank he was taken from in Israel by Hamas fighters on October 7th. She knows only that at least a few weeks ago her son, now 20, was alive. I'm committed to fight to bring him back home and I will do everything. Cohen looks exhausted, thin, but with a wiry strength. She has been a permanent fixture at demonstrations and marches, pushing the Israeli government to agree to a hostage deal with Hamas. You don't hear the ministers talking about the hostages.
Starting point is 00:13:38 It really upset us. Like many Israelis, Cohen supports what Israel calls its preemptive action against the country's old enemy, Iran. But not now, she says, not before bringing the hostages home. The war in Gaza needed to stop a long time ago. And it continues because there are extreme members in the coalition that have a dream to conquer Gaza. Some Israelis argue a decisive victory by Israel over Iran will force Hamas to agree to Israeli terms for handing over the hostages. Peace activist and veteran hostage negotiator Gershon Baskin disagrees. A weakening of Iran by Israel is not going to force Hamas to change its basic fundamental goal,
Starting point is 00:14:31 which is to end the war. He calls the war a distraction, albeit a dangerous one, draining energy and hope from the region. If you ask a Gazan, what is your political dream, one state, two states, what else, they'll tell me my dream is to have a bottle of water. And the Israeli people just want quiet. It's not something Vicki Cohen will look for until her son is home. Margaret Evans, CBC News, Jerusalem. Canada's Truth and Reconciliation Commission made 94 urgent calls to action 10 years ago. Seven of them were specific to health care, including a call to close the gaps between Indigenous and non-Indigenous people. of them were specific to health care including a call to close the gaps between indigenous and
Starting point is 00:15:25 non-indigenous people. As Allysa Northcott tells us there has been some progress but still lots of work to be done. In this office is our physiotherapy. As Shirley P. in Baru Bay walks through the Indigenous Health Centre of Jujage she points out how the Montreal-based clinic has grown since it opened in 2023. We have diabetic foot care clinic, we have a poultry clinic, physiotherapy, we have mental health services, we have a psychologist, addictions worker, we have a spiritual healer. PN Baru Bay is a health navigator helping Indigenous patients get the care they need. Services here are available in several languages including Inuktitut and Cree.
Starting point is 00:16:03 We have sage available for the clients to smudge anytime they want. They feel safe, they feel listened to, respected. Ten years ago, the Truth and Reconciliation Commission's final report pointed to troubling gaps in health outcomes between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Canadians. Seven of its 94 calls to action focused on health, including funding for existing and new Aboriginal healing centres and recognizing the value of Aboriginal healing practices.
Starting point is 00:16:31 There were a gap in the health system to really understand the need. Faye Virginia Desjardins is the family violence prevention coordinator at the health centre. She says it aims to overcome mistrust because the health care system has harmed many Indigenous people including her. Because I'm diabetic and I was explaining that I'm not feeling well and all what I explained
Starting point is 00:16:56 she just told me like arbitrarily when people like you feel confused and all that that's because you're drinking. I couldn't believe it. According to the site Indigenous Watchdog, while some of the health-specific calls to action are in progress, none are complete. The site's publisher, Douglas Sinclair, says one issue is a lack of access to federal data. To help identify and close the gaps in outcomes, another call to action.
Starting point is 00:17:23 There's just no political will across the country to sort of coordinate activities to identify that information and make it available. You can't develop policy if you don't, if you're working in a vacuum. Another barrier is access to health care. In Iqaluit, Kylie Aglukharq looks out over the site of a future addictions and trauma treatment centre currently being built. It will allow people in Nunavut to receive treatment without having to leave the territory. It fits perfectly in that call to action.
Starting point is 00:17:53 The facility will provide culturally based care in Inuktitut says Aglukhark, a program manager with Nunavut Tungavik incorporated, a treaty organization that represents Inuit in Nunavut. Travelling all the way down south,'re being removed from your language from your culture. So you know I think it's huge to have this. But she says there's still more work to be done like increasing Inuit staffing and establishing more treatment centers in other regions. Alison Northcott, CBC News, Montreal.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Wine sales overall are down across Canada. Fewer bottles are being uncorked and U.S. importers are feeling the pinch. But there is something to toast. Domestic wines are defying the trend. Sophia Harris explains why local producers are seeing a rise in demand. It's just a very exciting time for Canadian wine. It's shaping up to be a stellar year at Leaning Post wines in southern Ontario. In fact, owner Elia Senchuk says it's the best on record,
Starting point is 00:18:54 with Canadian sales up 71% compared to the same time last year. Business is great, yeah. We're honestly, we're really booming. So people must be drinking more wine, right? Not exactly. The latest Statistics Canada data shows wine sales by volume are down by almost 5% year over year. And Ontario's liquor retailer, the LCBO reports its wine sales declined 13% over the past three months. There's significant competition within the alcohol sector. Aaron Dobbin is CEO of Wine Growers Ontario.
Starting point is 00:19:29 He says premixed drinks like coolers are eating into wine's market share. The margaritas in a can are very, very popular. However, there's an upside for domestic wineries because people are drinking more local wines, at least in Ontario. The LCBO, Canada's largest liquor retailer, says sales of Ontario wine made entirely from local grapes have soared by 60%. Industry experts say reasons include the removal of U.S. liquor from LCBO stores and the trade war, which sparked the bi-Canadian movement. All of a sudden people were looking for kind of Canadian alternatives to two U.S. wines.
Starting point is 00:20:10 There are signs other provinces are following the same trend. Sennchuk sells his wine to liquor boards in Ontario, Manitoba and Newfoundland and Labrador. He says all three are upping their orders. We're actually getting calls even now from Alberta, from Quebec, from people across the country looking for our wine. Outside an LCBO store in downtown Toronto, shoppers told CBC News they're also upping their orders for domestic wine. Because of the, you know, nationalism by Canadian
Starting point is 00:20:44 and the removal of American products, alcoholic products, I just find that this is something that we should be doing to help the local producers. What's motivating you to buy local wines? Because we're standing up for Canada. And this trend may be long-lasting. And what do you think of Ontario wine? I think they're amazing. They're underrated. I think our habits have changed permanently. So I don't see us doing much in a way of buying any more American wines.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Provincial governments are working with Ottawa to lower interprovincial trade barriers to make it easier for producers to sell their wines in other provinces. So domestic wine sales may keep growing for many years to come. Sophia Harris, CBC News, Toronto. More dates are being set for the No Kings marches across the US. Millions of Americans showed up in the streets last Saturday to protest authoritarianism and Donald Trump. Many have also been making No Kings playlists. Protest music may be nothing new, but Ali Chyassan tells us how it's amplifying a new generation's voice.
Starting point is 00:22:00 The No Kings movement against authoritarianism in the U.S. saw thousands of protesters take to the streets last weekend in cities large and small across the country, making their voices heard through song, chanting and condemnation of the most potent weapons that we can wield. Protest music, as you can hear, isn't just kumbaya. Take it from artist, grandson. Yes, the music is heavy and angry because my generation is angry. His musicorning in the Middle East"] His music rages against the machine of today. When it comes to activist music over the decades,
Starting point is 00:22:50 ["If Beats a Shad"] there have been calls for peace in the 60s and 70s. ["Fight the Power"] Resisting authority and police oppression in the 80s and 90s, the No Kings Movement is a new sound in American activism. Something like this No Kings movement that is no one person is bigger than our country. No Kings, motherf*****!
Starting point is 00:23:13 It also inspired songs in other genres, new dubstep drops and country ditties. There are no kings in America As with any protest, there's often a counter protest. And that's playing out through song, too. On the right, you have people like Lee Greenwood, who is a clear Trump supporter. Benjamin Tasig is a professor of music and politics. He says oldies are popular rally cries on the right. But sometimes, record scratch, they get misinterpreted.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Born in the USA Bruce Springsteen's Born in the USA, for example, which is about a disillusioned Vietnam War veteran feeling abandoned by America. Reagan was using it as a patriotic anthem. So was Trump, until Springsteen spoke out. The America that I've sung to you about is currently in the hands of a corrupt, incompetent, and treasonous administration. There's no misinterpreting this. A brass band at the Atlanta No Kings protest playing Bella Ciao. Bella Ciao is a song that is strongly linked with the Italian
Starting point is 00:24:25 anti-fascist partisan movement of the 1940s. Music history professor Noriko Manabe says protest music doesn't just call for change, it can change people. Concretizing that idea in your mind helps you to maybe do something that would actually advocate for change in a more direct manner. This sort of stuff has context in Canada too. Music is a beautiful powerful thing. Ali Chasson, CBC News, Toronto. Finally tonight, years of passion and a bit of wizardry have transformed an abandoned restaurant an hour east of Ottawa into a 1970s pinball palace and video arcade. The new Canadian Pinball Museum is opening and there are more than 70 games just waiting
Starting point is 00:25:25 for the next high score hero. Well that's the beauty of the museum. It's not a look, it's a play. You get to touch them, feel them, play them. They're all dialed in, swooped up, play better than them. Mike Loftus and his partner Rob grew up pressing flippers and hitting bumpers. They put a long-time dream into motion during COVID, buying and refurbishing dozens of pinball classics and retro video terminals too. What's not to love? You know what I mean? From a simpler time
Starting point is 00:25:59 when things were more real, when things were more tangible, you had to actually go out and meet your people and play the games together in person. It's all about getting back to that experience. He's a pinball wizard, there has to be a twist. Loftus admits his love of pinball, well, it was developed during a few skipped school classes long ago, but he says it's all been preparing him for this moment, and he hopes visitors's all been preparing him for this moment and he hopes visitors get the kind of experience he enjoyed when finding one
Starting point is 00:26:31 more quarter in your pocket was the best feeling in the world. Every machine basically tells a story so really we're just trying to create some kind of a portal where people can come back and have that experience in a real 70s environment, not a fake online one. The games are obviously precious to Mike and Rob, but the whole point is to share this portal back in time. Members of the public are welcome to try out the games on Saturdays all summer. This has been Your World Tonight for Friday, June 20th.
Starting point is 00:27:06 I'm Stephanie Scanderis. Thanks for being with us. Good night.

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