Your World Tonight - Trump on nukes, Carney eyeing submarines, finding the disappeared in Mexico, and more

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

U.S. President Donald Trump rates it “12 out of 10.” He says his meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping was “amazing” and the U.S. will now trim its tariffs against China, as long as Beijing cracks down on the illicit fentanyl trade. He says China will also resume buying U.S. soybeans, and remove barriers to rare earths exports.And: Prime Minister Mark Carney is kicking the tires on some submarines in South Korea. It’s one of the countries vying for a multi-billion-dollar contract to sell subs to Canada. Carney is there to take part in tomorrow’s APEC summit where he will have his own sit down with Xi.Also: The CBC’s Jorge Barrera joins families on a search for remains on the southern edge of Mexico City to learn more about the people known as the ‘disappeared.’Plus: Sudan slaughter, ancient rhino species, Inuit social media movement, and more.

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Donate at lovescarbro.cairbo. This is a CBC podcast. We have a big arsenal, obviously. The Russians have a large nuclear arsenal. The Chinese have a large nuclear arsenal. Sometimes you've got to test it to make sure that it's functioning and working properly. Testing weapons and testing limits. A surprise shift in nuclear policy dropped by the U.S. president, resuming testing.

after more than 30 years, with other nuclear powers watching closely and some fearing non-proliferation and global security could be in jeopardy. Welcome to Your World Tonight. I'm Susan Bonner. It is Thursday, October 30th, just before 6 p.m. Eastern, also on the podcast. No one is safe in Elfashire. There is no safe passage for civilians to leave the city. The human cost is profound. New horror in Sudan's civil war, evidence of systematic killings and a civilian massacre emerging from a region locked in a violent struggle with no clear way out.

And silence is no longer an option. It was a scream for justice. More than a hashtag, the Inuit Me Too movement gets louder. The last time the United States tested a nuclear weapon was in 1992. The Cold War was over and non-proliferation was expanding. Now with U.S. President Donald Trump ordering the Pentagon to resume testing, there's concern it could unravel decades of progress and usher in a new nuclear era. Paul Hunter reports from Washington.

Mr. President, why did you change your nuclear plan? Why are you going to be doing more nuclear testing? Thank you very much, everybody. At the outset of his sit-down in South Korea with China's president, the U.S. president did not answer that question, though just prior to the meeting, he'd posted his intentions. Because of other countries' testing programs, he wrote, I have instructed the U.S. Department of War to start testing our nuclear weapons on an equal basis.

With others doing testing, I think it's appropriate that we do also. On his flight back to the U.S., Trump reiterated his view, the move is driven by other nuclear powers. We have more than anybody. When I see them testing, they say, well, they're going to testing as we have to test. The comments have effectively turned the world on its ear. But though Russia has recently tested nuclear-capable missiles and China has expanded its nuclear stockpile, neither country has tested an actual nuclear weapon in decades. The U.S., Russia, and China long ago signed a treaty banning such tests, though the treaty was never ratified into law.

All that said, from Russia's foreign minister today... Until now, we didn't know that anyone was testing. And from China, we hope the U.S. will abide by its test-banned treaty obligations, said a spokesman for China's foreign ministry. From Trump's Republican Party in the U.S., support. Here's Speaker of the House Mike Johnson. I think it is an obvious and logical thing to ensure that our weapon systems work as their design. But from the United Nations, this warning signal. Current nuclear risks are already alarmingly high,

and all actions that could lead to miscalculation or escalation with catastrophic consequences must be avoided. We need to be really careful that that doesn't spiral, right? Doreen Horsuch, with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, underlines if the U.S. starts testing nukes Russia could follow, then China. China being the only country of the three that, relatively speaking, has done very little testing ever. And so, China would be really the only one from a technical standpoint to gain something from the testing. Said Trump, what he's seeking is denuclearization. In his post, he emphasized,

The U.S. testing should start immediately. Paul Hunter, CBC News, Washington. Prime Minister Mark Carney also has defense on his mind. He's in South Korea, looking at submarines. Canada is preparing to spend big to replace its aging fleet of subs, and South Korea wants to build them. Murray Brewster reports. When Mark Carney popped out of the submarine hatch at the end of his tour,

he was all smiles. Waiting on the jetty, Canadian defense contractors who've signed onto Hanwa Ocean's roughly $20 billion bid to construct Canada's new fleet of 12 submarines. You're happy about it's all today? More than you think. Carney got a look at a brand new KSS3, alongside South Korea's Prime Minister.

It is precisely the kind of submarine Hanwa Ocean wants to sell Canada. This boat only went into the water a few days ago and was flying a Canadian flag for the visit. visit. Another submarine, under construction, was draped in a giant Korean and Canadian flag. A not so subtle demonstration by the Koreans that their production lines are active and can deliver four boats to Canada by 2035. The Navy's deadline to begin retiring the old Victoria-class boats. It's a beautiful submarine. Really impressed with the size of the submarine, the quality of the cruise accommodation. Vice Admiral Angus Topshi is the commander of the Canadian Navy. He says both

the KSS3 and Germany's type 212 CD submarine meet the Navy's requirements. Carney visited the German shipyard, TKMS, in August. Now it's a question of how much it's going to cost. The submarine program has yet to be given a budget. So I'm not sure when the government will make a decision about the full funding of the submarine program. At this point, we're still working to refine the costs

and make sure that we understand what this program will cost. Creating Canadian jobs has been Carney's mission. Germany has raised the possibility that some of the submarines could be built in Canada. But Topshi and Defense Minister David McGinty poured cold water on that idea. Standing up a manufactured site for submarines is not an uncomplicated thing. It's a very big issue. And of course, I think our Admiral this morning spoke to this clearly when he said he needs submarines in short order, not in 35 years. The visit was significant because it's a sign the federal government wants to move swiftly towards a decision.

which some experts believe will come next year. Marie Brewster, CBC News, Kojee, South Korea. While the Prime Minister is in Asia, he will attend the APEC summit and meet with China's president tomorrow to talk trade. Xi Jinping already had some face-time today with Donald Trump in a meeting that could be a turning point in a tense relationship. Lisa Singh has more.

Mr. President, the President of the People's Republic of China. U.S. President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping shook hands and smiled for the cameras. It's a great pleasure to see you again. Good to see you again. This face-to-face was the first of Trump's second term. One Trump rated a 12 out of 10 on Air Force 1 on his way home. I thought it was an amazing meeting. He's a great leader, a leader of a very powerful, very strong country in China.

For his part, she was more reserved. China-U-S. relations have remained stable on the whole, he said. We don't always see eye-to-eye, but it's normal for the two leading economies of the world to have frictions now and then. The relationship has been tense, to say the least, especially as Trump levied tariffs on the world, some of the highest on China, reaching 145% at one point. But Beijing hit back hard. It stopped buying U.S. soybeans in the spring and expanded export restrictions on rare earth minerals,

essential to everything from smartphones to cars to jets. John Zinn is the former China Director for the U.S. National Security Council. Beijing has demonstrated that it has leverage over us. To that point, she agreed to keep rare earth exports flowing for at least the next year, start buying soybeans from the U.S. again, and crackdown on the export of chemicals used to make fentanyl. In exchange for Trump shaving off 10% on Chinese exports to the states, so their rate is closer to that of its Asian neighbors.

They used to treat us a little more dringerly, and I think that's a sign of their confidence that they can do this with impunity. Analysts say the agreement shows China still holds the power. After all, Beijing can leverage rare earths any time after the year is up if Trump ups the ante again. Greg Chin is an associate professor of political science at York University. There is growing awareness on the part of the White House in the United States that China's not just going to bend to the will of President Trump.

Experts say the deal yet to be signed indicates the bigger issues still haven't been tackled, like the trade imbalance that angered Trump so much and security in the South China Sea. Trump saying the issue of Taiwan did not come up. This time. I'll be going to China in April, and he'll be coming here sometime after that. Signalling the president's hope for a thaw. Lisa Xing, CBC News, Toronto. Coming right up, please for help in Sudan's civil war with rebel forces accused of brutal civilian killings.

And missing in Mexico and new hope for tormented families. searching for answers. Later, we'll have this story. It's a new species of rhinoceros, named, millions of years after it roamed the high Arctic, with the help of an Inuk elder. We collaborated with Jarlu Kuguktak, and he picked out it jiluk, which means frosty or frost. And so it's kind of a homage to it being from the Arctic in that cold environment. I'm Emily Chong in Toronto, coming up on your world. Tonight, I'll tell you about the largest ancient mammal ever found on Devon Island in Nunavut.

King Charles is stripping his brother Andrew of his remaining titles and evicting him from his royal residence. Buckingham Palace issued a statement saying he will no longer be known as Prince, but as Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor. There's been pressure on the palace to oust. Andrew, because of his relationship with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. He's also been accused of abuse by one of Epstein's victims, Virginia Jufre. He has denied those allegations. As the son of Queen Elizabeth, Andrew was born a prince. He had already surrendered his title of Duke of York. Horrific scenes are emerging from Sudan's Darfur region. New video appears to show hundreds of civilians being massacred in El Fasher. The battleground city

fell to paramilitary fighters this week. Now there are new calls for urgent intervention in Sudan's civil war. Senior international correspondent Margaret Evans reports. It is through the eyes of RSF militiamen filming their own brutal acts that the outside world is getting a glimpse of the horrors reportedly taking place

inside the city of Elfashir. In one video, a fighter appears to walk down a staircase into a room strewn with bodies on the floor and shoots the last living man as he's restrained by other armed men. The Reuters News Agency has verified the location as that of the university. Right now, the objects consistent with human remains and bloodstains are proliferating so fast across the city that we can't even slow down to count them all. In an interview with the BBC, Nathaniel Raymond of the Yale Humanitarian,

and research lab outlined what satellite imagery is saying about events on the ground. The city is surrounded by an earth wall, and these people are fundamentally trapped. Much of the activity that we're seeing that's outside of house-to-house clearance operations and neighborhoods is against this wall, likely shootings of people trying to escape. The head of the paramilitary rapid support forces, General Mohamed Hamdan Dagalow, has delivered a video message urging those who have left the city to return. He also promised to arrest people committing what he called violations. The investigation committee will start immediately, he said,

and hold accountable any soldier or officer who committed a crime. That pledge will have little weight. The war between Dago and his rival, who heads Sudan's armed forces, has killed an estimated one. 150,000 people since 23, both sides accused of atrocities. The RSF was born of the notorious Janjaweed militias, accused of genocide in Darfur in the early 2000s. The horror and the apparent impotence,

some would say indifference of the international community to current events, was on display at the UN Security Council in New York. Can anyone here say that we did not know this was coming? We cannot hear the screams, but as we sit here today, the horror is continuing. The UN's humanitarian and emergency relief coordinator, Tom Fletcher, had some pointed remarks for countries accused of fueling the conflict. Stop arming this violence. Insist that stopping this conflict is more important than any narrow political or commercial interest.

He stopped short of naming the UAE, Egypt and Saudi Arabia, all accused of backing one side. or the other. Margaret Evans, CBC News, London. There is a new effort in Mexico seeking to shed light on a struggle playing out in the shadows. Over the past two decades,

tens of thousands of people have disappeared. Many allegedly forced into drug cartels or murdered for resisting. Now officials are taking unprecedented steps, hoping to bring some peace to families in pain. Jorge Barrera has details. Machete in hand, Vanessa Gamas hacks away at the brush, using the tip to dig up the earth in a search for any evidence of human remains

in a remote, mountainous area on the southern edge of Mexico City, where her daughter, Anna Amalee Garcia Gamas, vanished while hiking alone this summer. We're suffering. We lost our lives, our health. You start losing your soul, you know. You get sick. There's no support. You lose your job.

You lose your peace. Near her, National Guard soldiers' weapons in hand keep watch amid the war of weed whackers as a massive search unfolds through this area called the Cumbres de Ahusco National Park, a popular hiking spot, but also known as a dumping ground for bodies. It's a very dangerous place.

because it's so alone, and a lot of people is disappearing here. Mexico City's Commission for the Search of Persons is targeting this area as part of a new approach, unique in the country, and the search for the vanish. So we have in the past smallest search in one place or another. Luis Gomez Negretta is the commissioner for the city's agency responsible for finding the missing. But now we are gathering cases. defining an area of interest. The commission is now reviewing cases,

finding geographical links and launching multi-day, multi-agency targeted operations with hundreds of searchers and cadaver dogs. All of this done under a city cabinet created to focus on the city's 7,000 missing and counting. Jacqueline Palmetto says the partial remains of her 21-year-old daughter

were found 60 meters down an embankment by a lookout in the Ahuska. She said Jail Monserat Uribe was shot in the head. She's back for the rest of her daughter's body. I want to return her whole. I gave birth to a daughter that was whole, she says. Palmeto founded a collective for the families of the disappeared that is part of this search.

Groups like hers for years shouldered the burden in the search for Mexico's vanished over 130,000. Victims of drug wars, kidnappings, or just being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Vanessa Gamma says her daughter was kidnapped, but there's been little movement from police. The investigators don't investigate. It's a common theme in these cases.

Many suspects, few convictions. The office of the city's top investigator did not return a request for comment. The searches, Hindia Husko, are expected to continue next week. Jorge Berrera, CBC News, Mexico City. Quebec's social services minister is quitting cabinet over a new law changing the way doctors are paid. Lionel Carman says he will sit as an independent.

Many doctors are threatening to leave the province over the bill, including Carman's daughter. She's a medical specialist who wrote an open letter saying the health care system is broken. But Premier Francois Legoe says the bill stays. A social movement is sweeping through Canada's Inuit. It was launched by women who have had enough of gendered violence. In the north, it's more than 10 times higher than the national average. Karen Pauls has more on the allegations and the campaign being called Inuit Me Too. I was a young teenager and I was so confused and totally caught off guard.

36-year-old Ruth Gustaw wishes she'd gone to police more than 20 years ago when she alleges Nastanya Mullen, most recently CEO of the Manitoba Inuit Association, sexually assaulted her in his mother's Akeloid home while she was visiting his younger sister, her best friend. That could have just saved so many other people. And, like, I cry for those other people that are too scared to come forward. Gustaw and one other woman have filed formal complaints with the police. None of the allegations have been proven and Mullen has not been charged. But others are also speaking out.

Part of a growing social media movement dubbed hashtag Inuit Me Too, an Inuit version of the global campaign against sexual abuse, harassment, and rape culture. Inuit singer and author Tanya Tagak is using her voice to amplify the movement. She is not one of those disclosing abuse. I can do my best to be a megaphone because I know how scary it is to come forward. Nearly 1,300 people have signed an online petition calling on the Manitoba Inuit Association to do an independent trauma-informed investigation into the allegations against Malin. The petition and a fundraising campaign for legal fees,

was started by Crystal Martin, an inuk businesswoman now from Ontario who was not one of the alleged victims. We started this petition because silence is no longer an option. It was a scream for justice. Prominent Inuit organizations and women say survivors need to be believed. Nancy Keratak Lindell is Nunavut's senator.

I feel that it is the time for us to also speak out. on behalf of people who are not able to speak for themselves. As silent as these women have felt over the years, now it's so loud, it's deafening. Tara Gunatak Tutu Fotheringham is president of the Amatit Nunavut Inuit Women's Association. She's trying to support those coming forward. We want to make sure that these women never feel like they have to be silenced again. Ruth Gestauss says that's exactly why she's sharing her story publicly.

I just want other people to feel safe, safe enough to tell their truth. The Manitouba Inuit Association has appointed an interim CEO, but won't answer questions about Mullen's status or whether it's investigating the allegations. When we reached Mullen by phone, he said there's no comment he can make at this time. Karen Paul's, CBC News, Winnipeg. An emotional chief of the defense staff apologized today on behalf of the the Canadian Armed Forces for racial discrimination and harassment. I apologize to every CAF member, veteran who experience racism, discrimination, and harassment.

And I acknowledge we failed you. General Jenny Carignan says the stories she has heard have broken her heart, but also inspired, a resolve to do better. The apology was directed to current and past members of the forces. A class action lawsuit about racism in the military was settled in January. It directed the armed forces to acknowledge its history of systemic discrimination. This is Your World Tonight from CBC News. If you want to make sure you stay up to date and never miss one of our episodes, follow us on Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts.

Just find the follow button and lock us in. Scientists are excited about a new find connected to a very old species. The discovery involves fossils from a pony-sized rhinoceros that once roamed the Arctic. Experts are now trying to learn more about this ancient animal and how it ended up in the far north. Emily Chung explains. That's the sound of a rhino. and not something you'd expect to hear today in the desolate polar desert of Devon Island in Nunavut in an ancient crater created by a meteorite impact.

Yeah, it's the largest animal that we've discovered in the crater. Danielle Fraser is the head of paleobiology at the Canadian Museum of Nature and part of a team that identified the rhino as a new species, the northernmost ever found. It stood a bit a meter tall at the shoulder. So for rhinos, it's not terribly large. It didn't have a horn. And it had an extra toe. Typically, we see rhinos have three toes on the forefoot.

It actually had four. And so it's a little bit of a weirdo in that sense. The rhino lived 23 million years ago, about a thousand kilometers north of the Arctic Circle. But back then, it was much warmer, like modern-day southern Ontario. There was a huge lake and a lush temperate forest here inhabited by creatures like rabbits and swans. But it would have been cold and snowy in winter. It would have been dark part of the year. I think that that's a really interesting mystery

about how some of these animals lived up there. A local elder was part of the expeditions that found the rhino, and they asked him for help to name the new species. We collaborated with Jarlu Kuguktak, and he picked out itjiluk, which means frosty or frost. And so it's kind of a homage to it being from the Arctic in that cold environment. Donald Pertharo is a fossil rhino expert, who wasn't involved in the study,

but he had seen the fossils decades earlier and shared his opinion with the researchers. I said, well, this is a very strange animal, good luck. There used to be dozens of rhino species in North America, and this new species didn't look like any of them. But the researchers found a family resemblance in rhinos from Europe. How did it end up in Canada? Fraser and your colleagues thought it may have hopped across islands in the Arctic.

We hypothesized that this animal was either crossing on, land or what little water did exist between those islands at different periods and time, that there may have actually been some ice there in the winter that allowed them to cross. Perthara thinks rhinos might not have been the only animals to take that route. It's opening up a whole new door to how mammals got back and forth between Eurasia and North America. Researchers are now hoping to find fossils of other ancient animal migrants in the Arctic. Emily Chung, CBC News. Toronto.

Finally tonight. Game 5 is underway with a fly ball to deep left. Gone! The first pitch of the ball game! You didn't think we'd leave you without mentioning those Toronto Blue Jays. Keeping Canada's feel-good baseball dream alive, with a game 5 win last night that got off to an explosive start with a home run from Davis Schneider

and his dad watched from the stands. Oh, oh no! No way! No way! Oh, my God! Oh my God! Oh my God! Oh my God! Oh, my God! You've got to be kidding me! And the Blue Jay fans making a ton of noise, and now Guerrero, rips one to deep left, and it's gone! And two batters in, they are up two to nothing. Vladimir Guerrero Jr. followed it up, back-to-back home runs to start the game to go along with a historic performance by young Trey Yassavich. The 22-year-old Blue Jay pitcher struck out 12 batters, a rookie record for a World Series game.

Yassavich was still in college when the regular season began. He blazed through the minor leagues and secured a spot on the Jay's roster just in time for the playoffs. Sean Versohni coached Yasovic as a teenager in Pennsylvania. You know, he was an ultra competitor. He had a lot of arm talent. You know, he threw a lot of strikes. He had a really good fastball for his age. Yeah, it's been absolutely unreal.

It's hard to believe. But it was one of the most exciting outings I've ever seen. Obviously, you know, we were smiling last night. I was smiling when I woke up this morning. And I'm sure it's going to take a lot to get this smile off my face. Blue Jays fans are smiling too. The team has all the momentum. and the mojo with the World Series shifting back to Canada, game six, tomorrow night in Toronto.

Thank you for joining us on your world tonight for Thursday, October 30th. I'm Susan Bonner. Talk to you again. go to cbc.ca slash podcasts.