Your World Tonight - Trump reversal on Ukraine, Trump at the UN, China may buy Canadian belugas, and more

Episode Date: September 23, 2025

U.S. president Donald Trump says Ukraine should get back all its territory — taken by Russia in the war. Trump now seems to be shifting his stance to blame Moscow entirely.And: Trump tells the UN and world leaders what they are doing wrong and what he is doing right. It was a major address to the General Assembly on the major issues of the day… delivered Trump style.Also: Thirty beluga whales may have to prepare for a long trip. Ontario theme park Marineland is considering sending them to China. That's if the federal government approves a transfer.Plus: Jimmy Kimmel returns, Bombardier shifts its strategy to defence, Quebec's police watchdog investigates the fatal shooting of a teenaged boy, and more.

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Everyone says that I should get the Nobel Peace Prize. What is the purpose of the United Nations? Stupid people, global warming, not happening. It's the greatest con job ever perpetrated on the world, in my opinion. At an institution of global cooperation, U.S. President Donald Trump lashes out at political opponents, climate change, and at the United Nations itself. A nearly hour-long speech. Some of it untrue. Some of it unbelievable. And it didn't even contain the most surprising statement of the day. A dramatic shift in Trump's stance towards Russia and the war in Ukraine. Welcome to Your World Tonight. I'm Susan

Bonner. It is Tuesday, September 23rd, just before 6 p.m. Eastern, also on the podcast. You have to trust us. We're the one who are doing the investigation. We're an independent office. A young life cut short in a brief interaction. The police killing of a 15-year-old boy outside of Montreal is raising questions about deadly force, police oversight, and public accountability. Based on his previous encounters with Donald Trump, Ukrainian President Volodum, Zelensky may not have been expecting much to come out of today's meeting. Trump has previously pushed Ukraine to accept concessions and give up territory in its war with Russia, and it was just last month that the U.S. President warmly welcomed Russian President Vladimir Putin. But today, a sudden shift and firm encouragement for Ukraine to keep fighting. Tom Perry reports.

The president, who we all know very well, he was a brave man, and he's putting up one hell of a fight. Not all that long ago, Donald Trump was berating Volodymyr Zelensky in the Oval Office, warning the Ukrainian president he had no cards to play in his war with Russia. Today, at the United Nations, a 180-degree turn, with Trump marveling at Ukraine's staying power on the battlefield. Frankly, Ukraine is doing a very good job of stopping this very, very, large army. It's pretty amazing. You know, this is a war that should have ended in three days, four days. People said it was going to be very quick, and you've got to hand it to the Ukrainian soldiers. Trump went further on social media, posting on truth social. He now believes Ukraine,

with the help of NATO, is in a position to win back all its land seized by Russia, a country he now calls a paper tiger with a faltering economy, urging America's NATO allies to push back forcefully against Russian incursions into their airspace. Any question? Mr. President, do you think that NATO countries should shoot down Russian aircraft if they enter their airspace? Yes, I do. Trump later hedged when asked whether the U.S. would back up a NATO member that

took out a Russian aircraft, saying it would depend on the circumstance. Still, this is a remarkable about face for the U.S. president, though with Trump, that can always change. Zelensky remains focused for a nation. on securing continued support from Ukraine's allies in its fight against Russia. The president today sitting down with Prime Minister Mark Carney at a special meeting urging Russia to return Ukrainian children abducted over the course of the war. Thousands and thousands of our children are victims of Russia's double crime.

Russia first abducted them and deported them. And now it tries to steal everything they have inside their. culture, their character, they're born with family, and their identity. Kearney calling Russia's conduct inhumane and a violation of international law. To lose a child is every parent's nightmare. For the people of Ukraine, it's a horrifying reality. A reality that could continue for as long as this war drags on. After Trump's encouraging words today, Zelensky says he's hopeful America's actions will put Russia toward peace. A goal Russia has so far shown little interest in pursuing.

Tom Perry, CBC News, Ottawa. Donald Trump had a lot more to say at the United Nations General Assembly about a lot of different subjects, from criticism of climate change to Palestinian statehood and the United Nations itself. Chris Reyes has more. I've come here today to offer the hand of American leadership and friendship. In a nearly hour-long speech, U.S. President Donald Trump bounced back and forth from words of support for his fellow leaders to full-on lectures and even scolding. Your countries are going to hell. President Trump warned Europe over their immigration policies, and on critiquing the United Nations itself, he pulled no punches.

Not only is the U.N. not solving the problems it should. Too often, it's actually creating new problems for us to solve. He accused the U.N. of fueling. illegal migration and not doing enough to stop wars. For now, all they seem to do is write a really strongly worded letter and then never follow that letter up. In contrast, Secretary General Antonio Guterres had opened the session with a staunch defense of the UN's purpose. The United Nations has never been more essential.

The world needs our unique legitimacy, our convening power, our vision to unite nations, to bridge divides and confront the challenges before us. In his speech, Trump centered himself and the United States as playing that role, not the UN. In another clash of ideas, Trump called green policies a scam and once again denied climate change. It's the greatest con job ever perpetrated on the world, in my opinion. While the Secretary General touted the promise of clean energy. Renewables are the cheapest and fastest source of new power. They create jobs, drive growth, and can free us from the tyranny of fossil fuels.

On Israel's war in Gaza, President Trump admonished the countries that recognized a Palestinian state on Monday. The rewards would be too great for Hamas terrorists, for their atrocities. Following his grievance-laden speech, President Trump sat down Woodgatirish and said this. Our country is behind the United Nations 100%. And I think the potential of the United Nations is incredible. I may disagree with it sometimes, but I am so behind it. From Guterres. We have relied on the United States as our major political and financial support.

I believe there are many areas where we can cooperate in a positive way. The UN's chief modeling the importance of dialogue over differences no matter how harsh. Chris Reyes, CBC News, New York. Coming right up, questions about police use of force after a 15-year-old boy is shot dead near Montreal. And firearms also under scrutiny in Ottawa with the federal government set to begin its gun buyback program. Later, we'll have this story. I'm Ali Chiesin in Toronto. After getting suspended for controversial Charlie Kirk comments, talk show host, Jimmy Kimmel is returning to TV, but not everywhere.

It's either going to come back and they're going to play it super safe, or they're going to come back and go right into it. Despite being reinstated by his network, many affiliate stations won't be airing Kimmel's comeback show. That also includes a Canadian musical guest. That's later on Your World Tonight. Quebec's police watchdog is investigating the fatal shooting of a teenage boy, killed after a brief interaction with officers near Montreal. Now grieving family members are demanding answers and asking why police were so quick to use deadly force.

Sarah Levitt reports. A father's anguish after his 15-year-old son was shot and killed by police on Montreal's South Shore. Surrounded by family at the scene, Sheriff Rizai is overcome with grief. He says his son, Nuran, was always smiling and welcoming. He's the victim. He's a baby, he says. It happened Sunday afternoon in a residential neighborhood in Longuei. Police received a 911 call from a resident about a group of masked and possibly armed people.

It all happened so quickly, says Johnny Ithesone, who saw police arrive from his kitchen window nearby. He says two officers exited their vehicle and immediately yelled twice at a group of of people leaving the scene. An officer quickly pulled out his gun shooting neuron, he says. We received from the public seven video of the event. Brigitte Bishop is the head of Quebec's police watchdog agency, the BEI, which is investigating the shooting. In a rare press conference this morning,

Bishop said police recovered an officer's firearm from the scene, as well as ski masks and a baseball bat. Now, investigators will look into whether the use of force was justified. Stefan Wall is a former Montreal police officer and is now an expert on use of force. He says police walk a fine line when deciding to use their gun. Do I believe with the gesture or lack of gesture of a suspect that my life is in danger, he says. A decision like that, he says, often happens in seconds. The BEI says it's on the case.

have to trust us. We're the one who are doing the investigation. We're an independent office. But not everybody believes that. We need to question the inner workings of the BEI. Terry Ajadi is with the East Coast Prison Justice Society and has written extensively on police oversight and defunding the police. After more than 400 BEI investigations, very few have resulted in charges being laid against officers, none for shooting deaths. Oftentimes you get retired police officers who are deputized as investigators. There's a massive conversation about the efficacy of the B.E.I. And the legislation surrounding them.

Longuey police say the officer who shot the boy is now on leave. Why did they shoot a 15-year-old? A relative asks, says Nuran's father cries. The family has hired a lawyer in their search for answers. Sarah Levitt's CBC News, Montreal. The full sitting of parliament is only a few days old, and there are already calls for a resignation. It involves the government's controversial gun buyback program

and comments from a minister that have leaked out online. Ashley Burke has more. Canada's public safety minister under fire. You don't seem to have confidence in this program. Facing a barrage of questions from media about his private comments on the government's buyback program for banned assault-style weapons. I have absolute confidence in this program.

Gary Ananda Sangeri announcing the next phase of the program, after caught on tape suggesting to his tenant, he shouldn't worry about police coming into his home and arresting him for refusing to turn in one of these guns because police don't have the resources. I just don't think this will police services have the resources to do this. The audio recorded without Ananda Sangerie's knowledge and shared with CBC News by the Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights.

On the tape, the public safety minister also appears to offer to compensate the tenant if they lose money for turning in a gun. Whatever your losses, you tell me me how personally and suggests if he's arrested, he bail him out. You're a minister. Why'd you say that? Let's maybe put this in context. This was a private conversation with an individual

that I've known for many years. I said these two issues in, frankly, in bad humor, that that is being misinterpreted. The public safety minister defending himself and a new pilot project in Cape Breton before expanding the program across Canada later this fall. The plan is to compensate owners of outlaw guns if they turn in or deactivate them. Rod Giltaka is with the Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights. It's long argued that taking aim at legal gun owners won't stop violent crime.

He says the minister's leaked audio. helps his case. They all tell the truth when they think no one is listening. So I think he just confirmed everything that most Canadians who have been paying attention knew already. Heidi Rathgen, a survivor of the Ecole Polytechnic massacre, weighing in two. It's really hard to have confidence in a minister who, even in a private conversation, would say these things, puts into questions the commitment of this government, if this is

what is said. He was caught on tape admitting that his program won't work. The Conservatives leader Pierre Pahliav now calling for the public safety minister to go. Will the Prime Minister do the only thing that will secure our country and fire this incompetent minister? Asked if the Prime Minister still has confidence in him, Ananda Sangare said Mark Carney gave him a mandate to move forward with this program and that's what he's doing.

Ashley Burke, CBC News, Ottawa. TikTok says its platform is not intended for people under the age of 13. But Canadian Privacy Commissioners say the company has not done enough to enforce that. A joint investigation by Ottawa, BC, Alberta, and Quebec found hundreds of thousands of Canadian children used the app each year and that TikTok was not clear about how children's data was being collected and used. Federal Privacy Commissioner Philippe Dufrein says the company needs to work harder at protecting. them. We found that TikTok must do more to keep underage children off its platform. We also found that it must better explain its data practices, especially to youth, so that they can meaningfully

assess and consent to TikTok's collection and use of their personal information. TikTok has agreed to change how it verifies a user's age and to provide more privacy information in French. It also says it will better explain how user data is collected and used. Quebec Aerospace Giant Bombardier stopped making trains and commercial planes five years ago to focus on private jets. Now, it's looking to grow its defense business, as Canada and other countries pledged to boost military spending. But as Philippe de Montigny reports,

experts warn the company may be taking on too much. Especially right now, the momentum is very high. Bombardier CEO Eric Martel seized potential in defense. Every country is increasing a spending and we're going to be capitalizing on this over the next few years. The Quebec company which builds

business planes out of its new Toronto facility at Pearson Airport is already retooling some of them for surveillance and other military uses and selling them to other countries. So the Pentagon is a customer. We have the Swedish or customer. The French will now be a customer.

So we have a lot of success international. Will Canada be a customer? I'm sure it's coming. Bombardier is currently working with an Italian firm to create maritime patrol aircrafts. It hopes these planes can replace the ones Ottawa recently purchased

from Boeing, an American manufacturer. But experts warned the company may lack the expertise and production capacity, including former aerospace engineering officer with the Canadian Armed Forces, Jacques Roy. We remember the C-Series of Bombardier. This was very

expensive, there were delays and so on. It's the same thing with Boeing and Airbus. Every time they develop a new plane, it's risky. Not only that, the market for military planes is also relatively limited, and Bombardier is facing steep competition from well-established players, namely in France and the United States, John Graddock is an aviation industry expert. They may have the technical expertise, but until you start selling and you have a critical mass of airplanes that you're producing annually, it's going to be a rough right. And then we got drones. That could be, and probably already are, a foreign-verbal competitor.

Bombardier's CEO who helped rebuild the company and reduce its crippling debt isn't afraid of the challenge. We would be very proud of helping secure our country, but at the same time, it gives the opportunity to create a job in the country and export this solution. Business jets currently account for about three-quarters of Bombardier's overall. sales. Martel thinks defense and maintenance services combined can grow to about half of the business. Philip de Montsegis, CBC News, Toronto. CBC News has learned 30 beluga whales belonging to an Ontario theme park could be exported to China.

Marine land in Niagara Falls didn't open this year, but the animals still live there. Now a Chinese aquarium may be interested in buying them. That's if the federal government approves a transfer. Katie Nicholson explains. For more than 60 years, Marine Land touted itself as a destination everyone loved. These days, the crowds are long gone, tall gates and circle empty parking lots. But drone footage taken by CBC News in July captured a beehive of activity within, where staff play with and feed the theme park's remaining balloons. belugas and dolphins.

Now, a federal government source with knowledge of the file confirmed that marine land has applied to the government for permission to export its remaining 30 beluga whales. This afternoon, federal fisheries and oceans minister, Joanne Thompson, acknowledged the request. It's on my desk. I will make the decision shortly, and it will absolutely speak to the health of the whales. The animal must be healthy.

You cannot send off a sick animal that could either, dying root or spread disease. UBC marine biologist Andrew Tritz says that involves blood work among other assessments, transport of the mammals, arduous for whales, and people alike. Literally, it involves cranes and trucks and airplanes, and people at each step that can accompany the animal and assess it to ensure that it is going to be transported stress-free and problem-free. Situated in the Ocean Wonder area of the park, Whale Shark Aquarium has a key

attraction has set one possible destination for the belugas, China's Chimlong Ocean Kingdom. The whale shark exhibit tank has a volume of 22.7 million liters of salt water, making it the world's largest aquariums. It's one of the world's largest oceanariums, and it told CBC it's trying to decide whether or not to buy the whales. But what I think is important is that the federal government can't grant those permits unless it's in the best interests of the whales for them to be exported. Camille Labchuk is with animal justice, an non-profit animal law organization. She points to a 2019 act that outlawed keeping whales and dolphins in captivity for breeding or entertainment. I don't think it is in their best interest to go from one entertainment park

to another. If the permits are denied, releasing the whales into the wild, also not an option, according to Trites. They get rejected by other animals, and they're really looking at a life of starvation, loneliness. Marineland didn't respond to numerous requests for comment. This year, it started selling off its amusement rides. The theme park's future, like that of its whales, uncertain. Katie Nicholson, CBC News, Niagara Falls, Ontario. This is Your World Tonight from CBC News.

If you want to make sure you stay up to date and never miss one of our episodes, follow us on Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts, just find the follow button and lock us in. Talk show host Jimmy Kimmel returns to TV tonight for the first time since being pulled off the air last Wednesday. He was suspended for his comments about the Charlie Kirk shooting, a decision that sparked a national debate about free speech. Kimmel may be back on the air, but many Americans still won't be able to watch. Ali Shiason reports.

From Hollywood, it's Jimmy Kimmel Live. More than 60 ABC affiliates owned by two companies, about a quarter of all ABC stations, have decided to ignore their parent company's decision to reinstate Jimmy Kimmel Live, a move that's being endorsed by the chair of the Federal Communications Commission, Brendan Carr. Last week, Carr seemed to suggest that the FCC would pull Kimmel off the air if ABC and its affiliates didn't take action themselves. The two companies, refusing to put him back on the air tonight, need FCC approval for a purchase of even more TV stations. You know, a blackout today doesn't have the impact it did maybe 20 years ago.

Stephen Battaglio, with the L.A. Times, says if people want to find a show, they'll find it somewhere. It's going to be available on Hulu and for streaming, and you'll see it all over the place once it's broadcast. City TV in Canada will continue to air Jamie Kimmel Live, but in the States, Battaglio says, the ABC affiliate's actions will have a chilling effect. I think it's bad for television. The airwaves are the one thing the government controls in media, the public airwaves for TV and radio stations that provide free over-the-air broadcast. The government controls that, licenses it, and they can make their impact felt, and they are.

The initial decision to suspend Jimmy Kimmel Live is being pegged to his remarks in a monologue after Charlie Kirk's death, where he said the Trump administration is using his assassination politically. After the network pulled the plug on Jimmy Kimmel live, the backlash was swift. Viewers and celebrity supporters of Kimmel were accusing Disney and their affiliates of cowtowing to government censorship, something Canadian comedian Trevor Wilson believes too. I'm not overly familiar with Charlie Kirk, but from what I do know about him, he was an advocate of free speech. and it's an odd way to honor that guy

to try to eliminate something that he did fight for. Thank you very much, folks. I'll tell you a bit about myself. I was born into an oddly religious family. Wilson did a stand-up spot on Kimmel's show a few years back. It was a really fun experience. Jimmy was really nice. Wilson, like other Kimmel fans, and otherwise,

we'll be tuning in tonight to see how the show handles his return. There's really two ways that they're going to play it. It's either going to come back and they're going to play it super safe or they're going to come back and go right into it. Few details have been released about tonight's show, but Sarah McLaughlin has announced that she's the musical guest. She's been a vocal advocate for Kimmel, going as far as pulling out of performing at the U.S. premiere

of her documentary, Lilith Fair, building a mystery. McLaughlin cited the muzzling of free speech in her boycott. Ali Shiasan, CBC News, Toronto. We end tonight by returning to the United Nations in New York City, where world leaders have been negotiating some of the most pressing issues on the planet while also navigating the high stakes

and high-stress world of Manhattan traffic. I have 10 people with me. I go to the French embassy. I'm sorry. I'm really sorry. That's French President Emmanuel Macron last night, fresh off his speech at the UNGA, making a diplomatic push with the NYPD, stuck in traffic at a busy Manhattan intersection and trying to convince a police officer to let him through. Macron was on his way to the French consulate, and it turned out his route was blocked by a road closure

in place for Donald Trump's motorcade. It's just that everything's in closing right now, there's a border kid come away. But there was no, if you don't see it, let me cross. I negotiate with you. But there was no diplomatic immunity for Macron and his presidential entourage, forced to wait it out like everyone else. Well, not exactly like everyone else. A lot of New York City tourists get stuck in traffic.

Very few can then get the President of the United States on the telephone. How are you? Guess what? I'm waiting the street because everything is frozen for you. That is Macron informing Trump he was being held up by his motorcade. It's about as high up the ladder you can take it. Still, Macron could not get through.

But the delay of about 30 minutes did give the two leaders more time to talk. An impromptu summit at the intersection of foreign and urban affairs. Thank you for joining us. This has been your world tonight for Tuesday, September 23rd. I'm Susan Bonner. Talk to you again.