Your World Tonight - Trump talks Canada and tariffs, Dutch Remembrance Day, Women in the Catholic church, and more

Episode Date: May 4, 2025

In a wide ranging interview with NBC's Meet the Press, U.S. President Donald Trump once again repeated his threat of making Canada the 51st state - but ruled out using the military to do so. He also addressed his tariffs, and their blows to his country's economy - and whether he is serious about wanted a third term in the White House. Also: For people in the Netherlands, May 4th is a day to honour the soldiers and civilians killed in the Second World War. And on this Remembrance Day, the Dutch are saluting their Canadian comrades with a gathering today in Holten, where many Canadian soldiers are buried.And: Part of Pope Francis' legacy includes opening some doors for women to have roles in the Catholic church. But the most important doors remain shut. And there are questions about whether the next Pope will give more opportunities for Catholic women to have a seat at the table.Plus: The search for two missing children in Nova Scotia, Israel plans to further expand military operations in Gaza, and more.

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This is a CBC Podcast. Hi, I'm Stephanie Scanderas, and this is your World Tonight. He promised Canadians during the election that he would get a deal to lift the tariffs. And we'll find out if Prime Minister Mark Carney makes any progress on that deal when he meets with the U.S. president this week. Meanwhile, Donald Trump continues his push for Canada to become a U.S. state. Also on the podcast, Canadian veterans are honoured during remembrance day ceremonies in the Netherlands and we can't lose sight of the fact that men gather behind closed doors to make a consequential decision

about the future of the church. Will the next pope create more space for women to lead in the Catholic Church? The stage is set for the first in-person meeting between Prime Minister Mark Carney and US President Donald Trump on Tuesday. Carney campaigned on a promise to take on Trump, but he's up against an unpredictable leader who ignited a trade war and again today reiterated his threat to make Canada the 51st state. JP Tasker has a story. If Canada was a state it wouldn't cost us, it would be great. It would be such a great, it would be a cherished state. Donald Trump is renewing his 51st state taunts ahead of a high-stakes meeting with Canada's newly elected Prime Minister.

But the US president is ruling out the use of military force to annex the country. I think it's highly unlikely. I don't see it with Canada. I just don't see it. I have to be honest with you. This will never, ever happen. Mark Carney is dismissing the takeover talk and setting the bar low for Tuesday's Oval Office meeting, a place where there's already been some iconic clashes with world leaders.

I'm not pretending those discussions will be easier. They won't proceed in a straight line. There will be zigs and zags, ups and downs. At the top of the agenda, trade irritants like the fentanyl-related tariffs and the levies on Canadian steel, aluminum and autos. The country is also trying to avoid Trump's so-called reciprocal tariffs. He has a mandate, a strong mandate, to negotiate with the United States, to ensure that Canada's economic sovereignty is protected.

And while the Liberal government is signalling a major breakthrough is unlikely, industry minister Anita Onin says the meeting is a chance to turn the page on months of bilateral bad blood. My hope and our hope is that this will be the continuation of a productive conversation and a productive relationship between our two countries. Everett Eisenstadt worked as Trump's economic adviser in the first term. He says securing an invitation to the White House so soon after Carney's election is a positive development. It's unlikely that the relationship will be sorted out within a single meeting but it's certainly a good start. Eisenstadt says Trump will likely raise Canada's lackluster defense spending.

Carney is prepared for that. His election platform promised tens of billions of dollars for the military, a long-time Trump demand. He promised Canadians during the election that he would get a deal to lift the tariffs. Canada's Conservatives, meanwhile, have big expectations for this first outing, after Carney made Trump the centrepiece of his campaign message. Conservative House Leader Andrew Scheer. We're expecting him to come back with either a deal to lift them all together or a path

forward or significant progress. And I think it's fair to hold politicians to the standards that they set for themselves. Carney has to grapple with Trump's latest broadside against Canada. But there are signs things are moving in the right direction. While Trump labeled Justin Trudeau the governor, he's calling Carney a nice gentleman. JP Tasker, CBC News, Ottawa. Now Donald Trump isn't only focused on Canada. In a wide-ranging interview with NBC News, the US president was also asked about his tariffs, their blows to his country's economy and more.

Sasha Petrasek joins us from Washington to talk about that. Sasha, how is Trump feeling after his first hundred days? Well, Donald Trump's become known for rewriting the rules, challenging conventions, and in this interview he even says he's not sure he needs to defend the United States Constitution. Now, here he was questioning the right of migrants to a fair trial before being deported. But the full speed ahead, no matter what approach that has defined his presidency, and it doesn't look like he's about to change that. Full speed ahead on high tariffs, for instance, he says, even if it means a recession in the immediate future. That's something experts are

suggesting is quite likely. But he says it doesn't matter if the price of things like dolls and scooters goes up. Listen to his answer. Look, yeah, everything's okay. What we are, I said, this is a transition period. I think we're going to do fantastically. I think we're going to have the greatest economy in the history of our country. I think we're going to have the greatest economic boom in history. Now, figures out this week suggest mixed results so far

in the economy. A slight slowdown in growth but no change in the unemployment rate. Stephanie? Something else he was asked about was whether he's going to run for a third term even though that's something the US Constitution forbids. Can you take us through what he said? Yeah that's right. You know a lot of his strongest supporters are really pushing for that. He made that point. They've even made up Trump in 2028 baseball caps. And Trump himself has hinted there might be a way to run for that third term, even as

you say, the Constitution forbids it. But today, he said he has no intention of doing that. This is not something I'm looking to do. I'm looking to have four great years and turn it over to somebody, ideally a great Republican, a great Republican to carry it forward. But I think we're going to have four years and I think four years is plenty of time to do something really spectacular. But for those four great years, he'd have to have voter support.

And after 100 days, voters don't seem to be so sure. His approval ratings are at 41 percent, according to polls here, the lowest of any president since they started measuring these things. Still, Trump says he thinks the MAGA movement, Make America Great Again, will continue without him, suggesting he might be succeeded by Vice President J.D. Vance or Secretary of State Marco Rubio. Both men, incidentally, who were once his political rivals. Stephanie? Okay. Thank you so much, Sasha.

My pleasure. The CBC's Sasha Petrusic in Washington. In rural Nova Scotia the search continues for two missing children. Lily Sullivan is six years old, her brother Jack four. Teams of rescuers are working around the clock in treacherous conditions. Philipply Shanok has the latest. You can only imagine that this is a very stressful time for everyone here including the family. RCMP Staff Sergeant Curtis McKinnon says search and rescue teams from around the province responded to the call for help and that there had been a hopeful sign. There was at one point a possible footprint identified and based on that the searchers have now started

doing grid searches around that area. But he says there's still no sign of Lily Sullivan described as having shoulder length, light brown hair with bangs, wearing a pink sweater, pink pants and pink boots. And her brother, Jack Sullivan, who has short blondish hair and was wearing blue dinosaur boots. McKinnon says volunteers from across Nova Scotia

have joined the search. We're very appreciative for all the hard work they're putting into it. You can only imagine people getting up for a weekend to be here to help us try and bring these two kids home. Volunteer search manager, Amy Hanson, says conditions are challenging. It's very thick, it's very hard going like sometimes even the police canines

and stuff are having trouble getting through some of the brush and thick stuff so it's really hard for the search team so it's pretty slow going. Hansen says they're using predictive technology based on what they know about how lost people behave. Survivability by a lost person behaviour is actually fairly good for children. It was wet last night but it wasn't super cold so if they're moving or if they hunkered down somewhere which is what children tend to do, survivability is still good. Everybody's still very hopeful that we're gonna find them. Corporal Sally Rice of the Pictou County District RCMP says hundreds of ground

searchers, police dogs, drones and helicopters with infrared cameras have been deployed. And she has a feeling they haven't gone too far. Obviously any children would have challenges, especially this terrain, right? It's challenging enough for the people that we have on the ground here. Police believe the pair wandered away from a home in the area and say there was no evidence of abduction so it did not meet the criteria to issue an amber alert. Philippa Shannok, CBC News, Toronto. For people in the Netherlands, May 4th is a day to honour the soldiers and civilians killed in the Second World War.

And on this Remembrance Day, the Dutch are saluting their Canadian comrades. 22 Canadian veterans made the transatlantic trip, gathering today in Holten, where many Canadian soldiers are buried. Chris Brown sends this report. On this day of remembrance in the Netherlands, a major ceremony was held in a Canadian cemetery, where many of the young soldiers killed in the final months of the Second World War are buried. About 5,000 visitors and locals sat in chairs organized around the headstones, including nine of the 22 Canadian veterans of the Second World War who made this long trip. With the youngest 96 and the oldest 105, some of them fought in the battles that

liberated the country. The event chairwoman Leanne Jongsma said their presence was an honour. We are deeply moved that so many veterans are present as well. Nearly 1,400 Commonwealth soldiers are buried at Holten, mostly Canadians, and the Dutch appreciation for their sacrifice is not token. Canadian flags are everywhere, flying from homes, in parks, and on government buildings. Mary Simon, Canada's Governor General, says she was moved by what she saw. This friendship and this sense of belonging to each other is very strong. It's a sense of wonder. 102-year-old George Brewster from Duncan, B.C. flew Spitfire missions over occupied Europe and the Netherlands

and is part of the delegation of veterans. You meet people and realize how gracious and how kind and how they remember and I think that remembrance is the thing that is itched in my mind. And yet for George Morash, also 102, this visit brought up disturbing memories of awful famine and starving Dutch families that he saw in the recently liberated towns he passed through. Oh, couldn't an enemy treat other people like that? It was horrible. James enlisted with the Royal Canadian Engineers. More than anything, these commemorations are about keeping stories and memories alive.

15-year-old Adassia Clock is part of a students group from Owens Sound and Meaford, Ontario, who traveled here to learn about fallen soldiers from their hometowns. Kind of like it's close to home, like knowing where he grew up. We go to like, we went to the same high school and it's kind of like crazy to think that we're like similar age, like he's not much older than me. To conclude this solemn day, a helicopter overhead dropped 15,000 poppies that fluttered onto the crowd below. Monday is a holiday here to be filled with happier celebrations of liberation. Chris Brown, CBC News in Holton. [♪techno music playing.♪

Police in Brazil say they've arrested two people in connection with an alleged bomb plot on a Lady Gaga concert in Rio. More than two million people attended the free concert on Copacabana Beach Saturday night. Police say the suspects are part of a hate group targeting Brazil's 2SLGBTQ plus community. One of the men arrested is the group's alleged leader who was charged with

possession of illegal weapons. Police also raided the homes of more than a dozen other suspects where they confiscated phones and other electronic devices. and other electronic devices. Whoa! Whoa! An eyewitness reacts as a missile hits an access road close to Israel's main international airport, breaking through the country's air defences. The missile strike caused panic inside the airport, halting flights and traffic in and

out of the facility. Six people were injured, but none seriously. The Houthi rebels in Yemen claimed responsibility. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says such attacks won't be tolerated. We will do what we need to do to take care of our security, to respond effectively, and to give Iran a due warning that this cannot continue. Both Israel and the US have previously launched major military strikes against the rebels in Yemen.

And Israel's military is calling up tens of thousands of reservists to expand operations in Gaza. It's trying to put maximum pressure on Hamas to release all remaining hostages. A strategy that also includes a now two-month-long blockade into Gaza, where aid agencies say there are now acute shortages of food, water and medicine. Mira Bains reports. food, water and medicine. Mira Bains reports. Images of children showing signs of severe malnutrition are revealing the deepening effects of Israel's blockade on food and medication to Gaza.

The father of six-month-old Gazel says she was born weighing just two kilos and in six months has gained barely a kilo more. There's no food, no treatment and no way out, he says. Among the others struggling to survive is 14-year-old Anas Mansour, who's living in a tent in a battered farming town. He says, they want to eat, but they can't. There's no food. How are we supposed to eat, but they can't. There's no food. How are we supposed to eat?

He asks. Israel imposed a full blockade on aid entering Gaza two months ago. Since then, the United Nations says aid has dwindled to a trickle. And food that was stockpiled at the start of the year has all but run out. On Friday, a Gaza-bound aid ship organized by activists was damaged in what they say was an Israeli drone strike off the coast of Malta. Another blow to those trying to get help into the territory. At food distribution sites, tensions are boiling over.

This is now the longest closure of aid Gaza has faced, and it's fueling unrest and desperation. 18-year-old Suhad Gabin tried to get rice for her family but walked away with nothing. She says they stood in line but didn't get anything. Everyone's pushing. There's no flour. This is the beginning of a family. Olga Cheravko with the UN says people are scavenging through garbage to survive. Food stocks have now mainly run out. People are fighting for water. There's a water truck that has just arrived

and people are killing each other over water. Meanwhile, the Israeli army has begun calling up tens of thousands of reservists to quote intensify and expand its operations in Gaza. It says to increase pressure to release the remaining hostages being held by Hamas. The plan was discussed by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's cabinet. It's unclear whether Israel will allow more aid through a proposed humanitarian zone in Ra'fa. Back in central Gaza, time is running out.

Doctors worry hunger and lack of care could leave children like Gazelle with lifelong effects. Still, even survival is uncertain day by day. Mira Bains, CBC News, Vancouver. You're listening to Your World Tonight from CBC News. And if you want to make sure you never miss one of our episodes, follow us on Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts. Just find the follow button and lock us in. Inside the Sistine Chapel.

Inside the Sistine Chapel. Workers prepare the vaunted building for the election of the next Pope. Just days from now, below Michelangelo's famed frescoes, the conclave to choose the successor to Pope Francis begins. I have a feeling the conclave will be short, says Cardinal Gregorio Rosa Chavez, just two or three days. The next Catholic leader could choose to continue or undo the legacy of Pope Francis, a legacy that includes opening some doors for women in the church. But as Megan Williams reports, the most important doors remain

firmly shut. In January, Pope Francis made history by appointing a woman, Sister Simone Brambilla, to head one of the highest Vatican departments, the one overseeing nuns, monks and religious orders around the globe. The top job had always gone to a cardinal. So when an email landed in her inbox inviting her to take part in the pre-conclave meetings, open only to men, she knew it was a mistake. The bureaucratic blip captured what many Catholic feminists see as the paradox of the Francis era, symbolic change for women with not much power. Papa Francesco has done only two positive things for women.

Italian historian and long-time Vatican critic Lucetta Scarafia says women like Brambilla should be at the highest level discussions going on now. For example, the Council of Cardinals, which was never consulted... They could have easily invited top nuns to the cardinal gatherings before the conclave, she says. The fact that they didn't proves France has changed nothing. Scaraffia says the late pope did make a couple of important symbolic changes for women. He made Mary Magdalene an apostle and lifted a restriction barring parish priests

from forgiving abortions. So if a woman entered a church and wanted to confess an abortion, she couldn't do it, while a man could do it. Before, a Catholic woman who walked into a church and wanted to confess to an abortion couldn't. Well, a murderer could, she says. Activist Kate Mechelwee of the Women's Ordination Conference calls Francis a gift. But one wrapped in unfulfilled promise for female Catholics.

We saw him make really important cracks in the stained glass ceiling. Francis appointed several other women to high up Vatican posts and gave lay women the right to vote at global church consultations. But in some cases, women were given power mostly in name only. When Brambila became a head or prefect, a new pro-prefect, a cardinal, was quietly installed beside her. Since canon law still says some documents need a cardinal's signature. Scott Afia says that made clear who was really in charge. British Catholic writer Austin Ivory insists

Francis sparked a sea change by naming top female theologians and pushing the church to recognize women's contributions. This is a global church where many bishops and cardinals come from areas of the world where frankly are patriarchal and there's a lot of cultural misogyny. And obviously we don't we don't give into that but we have to recognize that a conversion needs to take place. Well the conclave is just days away. Mechelwee calls the church's all-male electorate a scandal.

And although, you know, there's lots of intrigue and interest in this ancient ritual, we can't lose sight of the fact that men gather behind closed doors to make a consequential decision about the future of the church. She says she and other Catholic women will be watching the next pope and keeping up the pressure for real change. Institutional power, voice and a seat at the conclave. Megan Williams, CBC News, The Vatican. There's no reason for you not to sing along anymore. There's the words right there. Gage, gage, gage, away, away.

Traditional music finally committed to paper for a project months in the making. It's the sound that rang out one night recently at Gageman, a children's immersion school in New Brunswick that is preserving the Wollastigwe language. And that's launched a new songbook. We've been singing these songs for a long time but I never knew what I was saying. So it's nice to have the translation for people. School director Lisa Pearly-Dutcher helped create the book. She hopes it helps the songs

live on. You know, we want to hear those songs out there. That's why, you know, Maggie brought these songs back. That's why Rosie translated them. That's why we put them together so that you guys can all use them, take them. Teach your kids, teach your grandkids. Dolores McDonald is already thinking of ways to integrate the songs. I belong to a monthly drum group and this is probably where we're gonna start. Yeah it's amazing to be able to transfer these songs to a community

like ours in Holton, Bantamal, and Seed Indians where a lot of our songs, these traditional songs, are pretty rare. We do sing some but to have a whole 20 songs is so exciting. McDonald and Wollastigway content creator Ann Paul talked about the joyful experience of bringing the songs to life. We were talking about the spirit and those spirit are in the songs when we sang earlier. By God. It was really special I know and I'm just kidding. Yeah emotional. It was really special, I know, and I'm just getting all... Yeah, emotional.

It's emotional about it, yeah, actually. It was amazing, it really was. A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A Anne wrote about the book and the experience for cbcnews.ca and you can read more about that and her other work for CBC online. This has been Your World Tonight. I'm Stephanie Scanderes. Thank you for listening. Good night. For more CBC podcasts, go to cbc.ca slash podcasts.