Your World Tonight - Trump talks deals, Carney to do list, students learn WWII history by travelling, and more

Episode Date: April 30, 2025

Let’s make a deal. The U.S. President says he congratulated Mark Carney on his election win Monday. Trump says the Prime Minister will be in Washington within the next week to talk trade… and pote...ntially reach an agreement on tariffs.And: Prime Minister Carney may be travelling to Washington but he already faces a long to-do list that includes picking a cabinet, making a budget, and tackling core issues he heard from voters, like affordability and housing.Also: Canadian students travel overseas to follow in the footsteps of soldiers who helped liberate the Dutch from Nazi occupation during the Second World War.Plus… Vancouver’s push for more mental health support after this weekend’s attacks, the long-awaited minerals deal between the U.S. and Ukraine, and more.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 1942, Europe. Soldiers find a boy surviving alone in the woods. They make him a member of Hitler's army. But what no one would know for decades, he was Jewish. Could a story so unbelievable be true? I'm Dan Goldberg. I'm from CBC's personally, Toy Soldier. Available now wherever you get your podcasts. This is a CBC Podcast. They called me up yesterday. He said let's make a deal. He was running for office, but he's a very nice gentleman and we,
Starting point is 00:00:47 he's going to come to the White House very shortly. It's an invitation on a pretty big to-do list. As the Prime Minister sorts out his new cabinet, maps out the next session of Parliament, Donald Trump says Mark Carney will also be going to Washington to find a way out of North America's worst trade crisis in decades. Welcome to Your World Tonight. I'm Susan Bonner.
Starting point is 00:01:11 It is Wednesday, April 30th coming up on 6 p.m. Eastern. Also on the podcast. I think we really have to sit down again as caucus and as the newly elected members and find out, you know, exactly what the next plan is. The Conservative Party planning its return to the House while its leader can't even get in after losing his seat in the election. Pierre Pauliev wants to hold on to leadership as the party struggles with an internal divide.
Starting point is 00:01:51 divide. Prime Minister Mark Carney campaigned on a promise to confront Donald Trump and it appears he'll soon get his chance. The US president says a meeting is in the works and the two leaders will be talking tariffs. Paul Hunter has details. From Donald Trump advisor Elon Musk to his Attorney General Pam Bondi. President your first 100 days has far exceeded that of any other presidency in this country ever. Around the cabinet table they went praising the US president and his first hundred days in office this time around. We've done a lot of work in this hundred days. But on maybe Trump's most consequential step of them all, his global tariffs, notably those targeting Canada's auto industry, steel and aluminum industries and beyond, a signal from Trump, change maybe in the cards after
Starting point is 00:02:46 all, highlighting his phone call yesterday with freshly elected Prime Minister Mark Carney, and hinting that on trade issues, Trump seems to see positive progress coming. I think we're going to have a great relationship. He called me up yesterday, he said, let's make a deal. Deal making now set to at least begin suggested Trump almost immediately. He's a very nice gentleman and he's going to come to the White House very shortly, within the next week or less. Trump even weighed in on the election itself when a reporter pointed out Carney won in no
Starting point is 00:03:20 small way by targeting Trump and his trade policies. Here's Trump on that and on opposition leader Pierre Polyev. They both hated Trump and it was the one that hated Trump, I think the least of that one. I actually think the conservative hated me much more than the so-called liberal, he's a pretty liberal guy. But no, I spoke to him yesterday, he couldn't have been nicer. And I congratulated him. Separately, Trump noted not long ago that he's already made some 200 trade deals since he imposed his tariffs earlier this year,
Starting point is 00:03:53 though none has been officially announced or made public. Today, while slamming another country, he's hit hard with tariffs, China. The leading candidate for the chief ripper offer. Trump also suggests that again, maybe something's in the works there as well. I hope we're going to make a deal with China. We're talking to China.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Where any of it goes from here is as ever known only to Trump. Though for Canada, a better sense of things may well come soon with as Trump now expects that sit down in the Oval Office with he and Mark Carney very shortly. Paul Hunter, CBC News, Washington. There is much more than Trump and tariffs on the early agenda for Mark Carney and the newly elected Prime Minister has promised to act quickly. Tom Perry has details on that. The victory celebrations are over. The work of governing now underway. Prime Minister Mark Carney and his team meeting, talking and laying out priorities. Cameron Ahmad, former communications
Starting point is 00:04:58 director for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, expects they'll be focusing on some key areas. You have internal preparations to make from staffing up your office to selecting your cabinet. But of course, externally, this incoming prime minister has an enormous amount of work and some really huge priorities that he's already outlined from diversifying our trade networks and working with other world leaders, working with premiers. That really is the bulk of the work that goes into this transition period. Carney campaigned on a promise of protecting Canada's economy
Starting point is 00:05:32 and sovereignty from the U.S., but he also pledged to break down internal trade barriers, boost homebuilding, and work on a national energy corridor, which could include new pipelines. Much of that will require legislation, including a federal budget. A new session of parliament is expected to begin May 26th, with the liberals once again holding a minority in the House of Commons. Carney will need the support of other parties to enact his government's agenda. Dominic LeBlanc, Carney's Minister of International Trade
Starting point is 00:06:05 and Intergovernmental Affairs, says he's encouraged by some of what he's heard from Conservative leader Pierre Poliev. Mr. Poliev's message was that the Conservative Party will work to ensure that the Canadian economy and Canadian workers are protected from the threat of tariffs. That's exactly what Mr. Carney and our
Starting point is 00:06:26 government has been saying. So if that's the basic principle, surely there's some common ground in parliament. The Liberals will have other potential partners, the Bloc Québécois and what's left of the NDP. But before any of that happens, there's still much work this new government needs to do. Tom Perry, CBC News, Ottawa. Pierre Poliev is planning for the new session of Parliament from the outside. The Conservative leader lost his seat in the House of Commons and it could be weeks, even months, before he gets another chance. But Poliev says he will stay on as leader. So how will that work?
Starting point is 00:07:07 Here's Cameron McIntosh. I think he can. I think there's a path for that. Re-elected Nova Scotia Conservative MP, Kriston Tremont, says he thinks Conservative leader Pierre Poliev can hang on. I think we really have to sit down again as caucus and as the newly elected members and find out, you know, exactly what the next plan is. Poliev hasn't spoken publicly since election night.
Starting point is 00:07:30 It will be an honour to continue to fight for you. When he made it clear despite losing the election, he intended to stay on as party leader. He also went on to lose his seat and status as opposition leader. An interim commons leader will be chosen by caucus. Sources say there are internal criticisms of the campaign, but Poliev is also being credited for picking up seats, particularly in Ontario. Pure Poliev should absolutely continue to lead the party. Andrew Lawton is a Conservative MP-elect in London, Ontario, one of those pickups.
Starting point is 00:08:05 We also saw a significant increase in support in areas that, demographic areas that have never gone Conservative. But without a seat, Poliev can't serve as the official opposition leader in the House of Commons and likely will have to vacate Stornoway, the official residence. To get back to Parliament, he'll have to get a Conservative MP to step down. But that can't happen until he or she has been in the position for 30 days. Then, Poliev would have to win a by-election. The Prime Minister has up to six months after an MP resigns to call one.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Parliament will resume just weeks from now. The world's not going to wait. Political scientist Laurie Turnbull. And Poliev will miss all that. And him trying to direct traffic from outside, there's gonna be conversations about, you know, and whether this is really the right thing for the party to do. Poliev will also have to pass a mandatory leadership review. Some MPs have privately bristled at a top-down approach and animosity towards factions within the Conservative Party, including progressives.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Tensions with two Conservative premiers became public during the campaign. Ontario's Doug Ford, who just today said the federal party ignores them. Well, all they have to do is make a phone call. I like a lot of the MPs. And Nova Scotia's Tim Huston. I think the Conservative Party of Canada was very good at pushing people away. But Don Tremont is confident with some humility, conservatives can come out of this stronger. I think that's the beauty of the Conservative Party is that we can actually all sit down,
Starting point is 00:09:37 disagree on a certain number of things, but agree on a lot of things on how to move our country forward. Publicly, many in the caucus are supporting Paulia to leave that. Elizabeth May is once again the sole leader of the Green Party. Jonathan Pednau announced he's stepping down as co-leader after failing to win his Montreal seat in Monday's election. In a statement, Pednau took responsibility for the party's failure to win over voters. The Greens won 1.3% of the popular vote, the worst result in recent history for the party. May was reelected to her BCC for the fifth time
Starting point is 00:10:09 and is now the only Green with a seat in parliament. Coming up on the podcast, the mental health care crisis threatening public safety in Vancouver. Deal making around the war in Ukraine, the fragile negotiations around mineral rights and a possible ceasefire, plus the lessons of war for a younger Canadian generation. Vancouver's mayor is calling for more mental health support
Starting point is 00:10:44 for those in crisis and BC's premier will review the for more mental health support for those in crisis and BC's premier will review the province's mental health act in the aftermath of a deadly car ramming at a Filipino Street festival. The suspect in the incident was under supervision at the time, a detail that's fueling more debate about mental health and public safety. Georgie Smythe has the story. Look I'm sorry I'm probably gonna get in trouble this, but I'm just speaking from the heart. Vancouver Mayor Ken Sim is fed up and wants action.
Starting point is 00:11:11 The odds of this individual getting the help they need would have been significantly higher if we had those supports in place. Sim speaking to reporters about the alleged attack that killed 11 at a Filipino street festival, he pushed back against BC Premier David Eby's plan for an independent commission. Sim wants an expansion of BC's 400 beds for mandatory treatment for people in crisis, as well as a look at connections between mental health and random violence. Instead, Eby today promised to accelerate a review of BC's Mental Health Act. Finding that balance of being able to identify people who are a risk to themselves or others,
Starting point is 00:11:51 ensuring that we're responding appropriately. The VPD says there's been an increase in high-profile attacks and interactions between law enforcement and people in distress. Police confirmed the accused Kaiji Adam Lowe had a significant history of non-criminal encounters with law enforcement. But in this instance, Vancouver Coastal Health, which monitored his mental health, tells CBC News Lowe was following an established treatment plan and was not considered a public safety risk.
Starting point is 00:12:20 It also says involuntary treatment wouldn't have been warranted because of his compliance with treatment. CBC News has also learned Lowe's brother Alexander Lowe was murdered in January 2024, an event the accused described as overwhelming in a series of online posts. Like, I feel empathetic towards him. Matt Watkins' wife is still in hospital. She has broken bones and deep cuts after being struck by the vehicle. Their 11-year-old son was also hurt but will be okay. Watkins says they feel embraced by their community, which makes him think about the man who was allegedly behind the wheel that day.
Starting point is 00:12:58 It's truly a tragedy that we've let him down on that level where there was no community for him, there was no family for him. Kashid is the former BC Solicitor General. He says a better funded, more robust system could offer the support people need. Secure care is the most immediate action that's required here in British Columbia. We need to have these facilities where we can remove these people, put them into treatment. Dr. Gary Shamovitz is a professor of psychiatry at McMaster University. He agrees more resources are needed, but says it's important not to confuse the drug crisis with the mental health
Starting point is 00:13:36 crisis. When you take out the substance use, people with mental illnesses, their risk of violence approximates the general population. But he says it's still too early to say what could have prevented this tragedy. Georgie Smythe, CBC News, Vancouver. Some comments from Ontario Premier Doug Ford are receiving harsh judgment from some in the province's legal community tonight. The Premier is taking aim at the justice system, targeting judges, their independence, and
Starting point is 00:14:05 how they should get their jobs. Jamie Strashan reports. That's my rant for the day because I've just had it. Ontario Premier Doug Ford overshadowed his own announcement about an upcoming provincial justice bill going on an extended tirade aimed at provincial judges. The system is broken and there's a lot of terrible, terrible bleeding heart judges out there. The Premier directed much of his ire at judges granting bail to violent offenders.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Much of the legislation around bail is federal and Ford said he and other premiers are pushing for changes to laws and sentences under the criminal code. This is absolutely ridiculous how these judges keep letting people out over and over and over again. I'm just done with it. Ford rejected the idea of judicial independence, calling it a joke, arguing judicial appointments are inherently political. You think these judges just come out of the blue?
Starting point is 00:15:00 Do you think that the liberal government for the last 10 years is going to appoint a tough on crime conservative minded judge? Ford's comments brought strong reaction from many in the legal community. Alan Winepearl of the Federation of Ontario Law Association says if the premier wants changes, this isn't the way to do it. I am empathetic to the victims of those crimes, But what we should not do is sacrifice the independence of the judiciary. Criminal lawyer Boris Patensky warned the recent calls for tougher judges could be backfiring as a majority of new judges appointed are former prosecutors. That is presented as sort of a representation of trying to get tougher on crime. I would
Starting point is 00:15:41 argue that it actually has the opposite effect. Because what it does is it strips the prosecution offices of their most talented, their most senior and experienced prosecutors. Ford also railed against what he called ideologically driven judges, undermining his recent overwhelming election mandate, pointing at a recent injunction temporarily pausing the province's plan to remove bike lanes in downtown Toronto We get elected it move forward and some judge because of the idea ideology decides Well, let's put an injunction on bike lanes. You've got to be kidding me He even floated the idea of electing judges as is done in many u.s
Starting point is 00:16:21 jurisdictions a bad idea wine pearl. We've seen instances where campaigns get started in the United States and lots of money is being spent on trying to elect people with certain points of view. We have an independent judiciary that it's based on merit. People can't spend money to become a judge. Wine-Pearl says there are flaws in the Canadian judicial system, but says it remains the envy of many jurisdictions around the world. Jamie Strash in CBC News, Toronto. Out of control wildfires are burning near Jerusalem. Drivers panic as they navigate flames along the main highway between the capital and Tel Aviv.
Starting point is 00:17:19 The fires are being fueled by extreme heat and high winds. Israel has declared a national emergency. It's asking for help from European countries and some have pledged to send water bombers. Independence Day events in Jerusalem are cancelled. At least 10 communities have been evacuated. More than a dozen people have been injured so far. No official word yet on a possible cause. India says military action against Pakistan is on the table. Tensions have been rising between the neighbouring countries following last week's deadly attack on tourists in Kashmir. Shazia Ilmi is a spokesperson with India's government.
Starting point is 00:18:00 There are slew of measures that have already taken place and I will not rule out any possibility of any kinetic action or a military launch or an attack. India's government accuses Pakistan of backing militants suspected in last week's attacks. 26 people were killed. Pakistan denies it was involved. Washington says it's ready to sign a landmark minerals agreement with Ukraine, but it's being held up because of last-minute changes. The deal would give the U.S. access to natural resources and provide Ukraine
Starting point is 00:18:37 with the support and money it needs to rebuild. As Briar Stewart reports, it's still unclear how the agreement would impact the ongoing effort to end the war with Russia. Ukraine's vast deposits of minerals are at the centre of a deal that Washington has been pushing for ever since US President Donald Trump was sworn in. And today, the country's Treasury Secretary, Scott P said that the U.S. was ready to sign, but he said Kiev wasn't. The Ukrainians decided last night to make some last-minute changes. We're sure that they will reconsider that, and we are ready to sign this afternoon, if they are.
Starting point is 00:19:17 The Minerals Agreement, which would give the U.S. preferential access to Ukraine's natural resources, has been under negotiation for months. It was originally supposed to be signed in February when Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky visited Washington, but it was derailed after an explosive meeting in the Oval Office, where Zelensky was accused of being ungrateful after trying to press the Trump administration for security guarantees. You're gambling with World War III. You're gambling with World War III. Today, Ukraine's Prime Minister Danech Mikhail said that under the draft deal,
Starting point is 00:19:56 Ukraine would keep control over all of its natural resources, and Kiev and Washington would set up a joint fund for the reconstruction of Ukraine. He said some technical details are still being sorted out, but expected the agreement could be signed in 24 hours. The United States is very, very keen on this for a number of reasons. Duncan Wood is the president of Washington-based Hearst International Consulting and is an expert on the politics of the development of critical minerals. President Trump has promised, of course, that he would end the conflict in Ukraine rapidly.
Starting point is 00:20:28 That hasn't happened. He's also promised that he'll get the Ukrainians to pay for a lot of the costs of the United States' support to Ukraine over the years. And so that partially delivers on this. The Kremlin is refusing to agree to a U.S US proposal for a 30-day ceasefire, instead suggesting a three-day one which would begin next week, and coincide with its annual Victory Day military parade to commemorate the defeat of Nazi Germany. Ukraine called that proposal manipulative
Starting point is 00:21:00 and says Moscow has no plans to stop its war. Overnight, Russia launched more than 100 drones at targets across the country, killing at least one and injuring dozens of others. Briar Stewart, CBC News, London. Canada's economy suffered a cold snap in February. New data from Statistics Canada shows the GDP declined by 0.2% compared to the month before. Some economists are blaming it on a particularly bad winter weather, along with the fears of
Starting point is 00:21:32 a trade war. GDP in the US was also down. Its economy shrank by 0.3%. They are part of a generation that learns a lot about war from video games, now getting a first-hand look at one of the most important military missions in Canadian history. Eighty years ago, Canada played a central role in liberating the Netherlands from German occupation. And as the country marks that, some Canadian teachers are taking their students closer to history. Deanna Sumanac-Johnson reports. I did this myself for the first time.
Starting point is 00:22:10 I was a little bit older than you guys were. At Three Oaks Senior High and Summerside PEI, students have created posters about local soldiers who died in the Second World War. But David Chisholm, Vice Principal and former social studies teacher, knows there's no learning experience quite like a field trip to make history come to life. Remembrance Day was just kind of a one day a year thing and we just decided that here that we're going to try to do it a little bit differently. Students will walk in the footsteps of Canadian soldiers who helped liberate the Netherlands
Starting point is 00:22:42 from Nazi occupation in 1945 and lay a plaque on a grave. Hannah Heyman immigrated from South Africa to Canada four years ago. I mean it's very easy to think oh it was a hundred years ago it doesn't really make a difference what happened but everything that happened in all those people who who sacrificed their lives were for the freedoms today. For kids born well into the 21st century, many living without relatives who fought in a second world war,
Starting point is 00:23:12 Canada's role in Victory in Europe Day 80 years ago can seem remote, abstract. So just a quick run through some of the things that we're gonna be doing when we're on our trip. Still, teachers like Jackie Shaw at St. Stephen Catholic Secondary School in Bowmanville in Ontario say the interest is there, sometimes in surprising places. Some of these kids do have a connection via their parents serving in the Canadian military.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Some of them just, I think, naturally love history. I think some of them are interested in it because of playing video games at some point, right? Thomas Kovach is one of her students going to the Netherlands and France. Us living back then, we would have to go to war as well because they were like two years older than us. So not that big of an age gap. And teachers like David McKinney
Starting point is 00:23:55 at Parkland Secondary School in British Columbia say it's not just about lessons of the past. In light of recent events, I think it's important that we wave our flag proudly. And it's important to realize that, you know, we're wanted, we're needed in this global climate. His students are getting ready to be welcomed by Dutch people. I think it's really nice to be able to meet them. How amazing will it be to be able to tell my kids, you know, I there for that the 80th anniversary of VE Day.
Starting point is 00:24:25 An anniversary to connect the digital generation with a lesson in history well after the war. Deanna Sumanac-Johnson, CBC News, Toronto. Finally tonight as young Canadians learn about one distant conflict another is also being marked by many people including some who experienced it firsthand. My parents, they didn't have enough to actually buy a passage for themselves or my brother. They could buy one bar of gold, which was my ticket on the boat. Winnipeg resident Chau Pham was just five years old when she left Vietnam. Part of the wave of refugees who fled the country after the fall of Saigon
Starting point is 00:25:07 at the end of the Vietnam War 50 years ago today. Tension mounted as more and more Americans arrived in the compound and began the nerve-wracking wait for a way up. That's a CBC News report capturing the defining images of that extraordinary moment. The last American helicopters taking off before North Vietnamese troops took the capital on April 30th 1975. A pivotal moment in world history and one that altered the personal history of millions of Vietnamese. Hundreds of thousands came to Canada,
Starting point is 00:25:46 and the experience would shape their new life. I remember when the roosters would crow every morning and I would stand in line to get my medication. It was the doctor in the refugee camp who showed me compassion. He saw the possibility that I could be something for somebody else. And I want to be could be something for somebody else. And I want to be now the reason for somebody else's possibility.
Starting point is 00:26:11 From Vietnam, Chau Pham landed in a Thai refugee camp, sick with tuberculosis. And she credits a doctor there for not only helping her recover and continue her journey to Canada, but inspiring her to work in medicine. Pham is now an emergency room physician and a medical director at Winnipeg's Health Sciences Centre. Thank you for joining us. This has been Your World Tonight for Wednesday, April 30th. I'm Susan Bonner. Talk to you again. For more CBC podcasts, go to cbc.ca slash podcasts.

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