Your World Tonight - Trump's National Guard deployments, Alberta teachers strike, preserving culture with Elder holograms, and more

Episode Date: October 5, 2025

The fight between Donald Trump and Democrat-run cities is heating up. A federal judge in Oregon has blocked the president's plans to deploy federal troops in Portland. But Trump is trying to find a wa...y around that - and is now deploying hundreds of National Guard troops to Chicago too. Also: Alberta teachers been in a labour dispute with the provincial government for months. After a breakdown in talks, tens of thousands of them plan to walk off the job Monday morning. You'll hear how families are now bracing for that.And: A First Nation in Yukon is trying to keep its language and traditions alive, even after the elder knowledge keepers are gone. To do that, the Na-Cho Nyӓk Dun First Nation is using technology to turn the elders into holograms as a way to pass on their stories.Plus: Looking ahead to Israel-Hamas ceasefire talks in Egypt, Claudia Sheinbaum's first year in office, volunteer pallbearers, and more.

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Starting point is 00:00:30 This is a CBC podcast. Hello, I'm Stephanie Skanderas. This is your world tonight. We get the hostages back almost immediately. Negotiations are going on right now. We'll probably take a couple of days. And people are very happy about it. U.S. President Donald Trump, optimistic that his ceasefire plan is going to work.
Starting point is 00:01:00 talks are set to begin in Egypt, and in the meantime, Israel continues to strike Gaza. Trump is also calling two American cities a war zone, saying he'll send National Guard troops to Portland and Chicago. Also on the podcast? I can't believe that there's two of me in now. It looks so real. Preserving tradition in a modern way. A Yukon First Nation is creating elder holograms, so their stories live. forever. On the eve of talks in Egypt to end the war in Gaza, Israeli planes and tanks have continued to pound parts of the territory on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:01:46 In Washington, as you heard, U.S. President Donald Trump expressed optimism that the hostages held in Gaza will be released soon, and once again warned Hamas to disarm something the militant group has not yet agreed. to do. Meanwhile, people across the region are watching and waiting for signs of a breakthrough. Paul Hunter has more from Jerusalem. From Gaza, yet more plumes of dark smoke on the horizon after another Israeli strike, reminding everyone it's not over yet. From its streets, as both sides in the nearly two-year war gets set to maybe sort the final
Starting point is 00:02:26 details of that U.S. proposed peace plan. frustration. Trump told Israel to stop the war, said Muhammad Awad, but we still have people being killed every day. They are dead every day. In Israel, with demonstrators at Hostage Square in Tel Aviv last night, again demanding an end to the war and the release of the remaining hostages still held by Hamas, word of the proposed peace plan had energized the huge crowd. argument among them. I just wonder what you make of this turn of events. We need to stop this world.
Starting point is 00:03:07 We need to bring everyone back. We just need to really pray really, really hard that everything will happen as fast as we can bring them back tomorrow, today, whatever. Just make it happen. To that end, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is sending his team of negotiators to Cairo for those talks on the plan's details
Starting point is 00:03:27 with intermediators who will then meet with Hamas. with Hamas. Brokered by the U.S. in Washington, Donald Trump today called it a great deal and said everybody's pretty much agreed to it. I tell you, it's amazing. You're going to have peace if you think about it. Peace in the Middle East for the first time and they say really 3,000 years. Trump also posting on social media a map of the Gaza Strip with a yellow line marking a large stretch of land in which Israeli forces could remain during the deal's early That brought more pessimism back in Gaza, including from Ahmed Ghanem, walking along one of Gaza's remaining cleared streets.
Starting point is 00:04:08 This is re-occupying Gaza. This is not acceptable for us as a Palestinians, because that means that the Israelis will stay in Gaza. This is our land. And just a few hundred meters outside the Gaza Strip, Israeli settlers, such as Malcoli, such as Malkil Barcai already pressing for exactly that, making clear no matter what the world may say he and those with him
Starting point is 00:04:36 are pushing for Israel to move in on Gaza even further. A demand for the government of Israel to reclaim Gaza, to build settlements, Jewish cities inside Gaza. I am ready to be moving to Gaza any minute, any day. That such a thing would go directly against the proposed U.S. peace plan seems beside the point, as so many on all sides await those talks on it and where all of this goes next. Paul Hunter, CBC News, Jerusalem. Meanwhile, the fight between Donald Trump and Democrat-run U.S. cities is heating up.
Starting point is 00:05:15 A federal judge in Oregon has blocked the president's plans to deploy federal troops in Portland. But Trump is trying to find a way around that and is now deploying hundreds of National Guard troops to Chicago, too. Ashley Burke has the latest from Washington. Portland is burning to the ground. Outside the White House with a helicopter waiting for him, Donald Trump says he's sending federal troops into Democrat-run cities, just like he did in Washington. Washington, D.C. went from a hellhole to a safe place.
Starting point is 00:05:48 We're going to do that in Chicago. We're going to do that in Portland. He's doing that even after a federal judge in Portland ruled last night that Trump's gone too far. She issued a temporary restraining order, blocking Trump from sending National Guard troops to Portland. The judge said the president's claims of daily unrest were untethered to the facts and risked plunging the nation into an unconstitutional form of military rule. Today's ruling is a healthy check on the president's power.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Oregon's attorney general Dan Rayfield calling it the right move. Mobilizing the United States military in our cities is not normal. But hours later came news from California's governor that Trump is sending a National Guard troops to Oregon, but deploying them from California instead. Portland's mayor, Keith Wilson, against any deployments there. It is clear that deploying unaccountable federal troops and forces only inflames tensions. On Tuesday, Trump told military leaders he wants to use American cities that he calls dangerous as training grounds for troops to respond to civil disturbance. And we have to handle it before it gets out of control. And he's pointing to ongoing protests in Portland and Chicago as his justification.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Holly Brown helped organize yesterday's protest in Portland against Trump's crackdown on immigration enforcement. They are being painted in some press outlets and by Donald Trump as agitators and nothing could be further from the truth. Trump's Homeland Security Secretary Christine Nome on Fox News calling Chicago a war zone after Trump today authorized deploying 300 National Guard troops there too. This is a war zone. But Illinois' Democratic governor, J.B. Pritzker, says Trump gave him what he called an outrageous and un-American ultimatum. Call up your troops, or we will. They are the ones that are making it a war zone.
Starting point is 00:07:46 They need to get out of Chicago. But there's no sign Trump's backing down. His administration filed a notice it will appeal to judges' restraining order in Portland. It expires. two weeks. Ashley Burke, CBC News, Washington. The last time they met in the Oval Office, it was all smiles, no results. Now, with Prime Minister Mark Carney going back to Washington to meet Donald Trump again,
Starting point is 00:08:14 there is optimism about improvements on steel and aluminum tariffs. But even if there's a breakthrough, there's a new concern. Canadian lumber. J.P. Tasker has more on what's at stake. We're going to be friends with Canada. Prime Minister Mark Carney is headed back to Washington for a second high-stakes Oval Office meeting, and while the last one in May was cordial, Canada is a very special place. I love Canada. U.S. President Donald Trump has only ramped up the pressure on Canada since then, adding new tariffs and hiking others,
Starting point is 00:08:45 prompting more job loss and economic pain. There's one guy, maybe two guys, that are a problem, and we know who they are. Ontario's Premier Doug Ford is urging Carney to take a hard line with Trump. We will not waver a message to the Prime Minister. You're going down there Tuesday. You better fight like hell. Don't roll over and keep fighting. Canada has been fighting behind the scenes ahead of the visit
Starting point is 00:09:12 and senior government officials tell CBC News they are feeling optimistic, saying there is the possibility of a breakthrough on the punishing steel and aluminum tariffs. Most of our product, about 90% of it goes into the United States. But the forestry sector is also reeling from Trump's new duties and tariffs, which run as high as 45% on softwood lumber. John Brink has already laid off some 300 people from his wood products firm in northern B.C. He hopes Carney can get the president to back off,
Starting point is 00:09:43 or else he fears the sector faces economic ruin. They're trying to do as much pain as they can, apparently, to, anybody. Laura Dawson is an expert on Canada-U.S. relations and the executive director of the Future Borders Coalition. I think it is a time to be optimistic. I see motion in all the right directions. She expects Carney to leave D.C. having made some progress on the sectoral tariffs, on steel, aluminum, and possibly softwood. The prime minister wouldn't be going unless there was something in the works, she says. I think they will have something to announce and it's going to be something that the president will be broadly supportive of, and he will be glad to have someone
Starting point is 00:10:25 of Mark Carney's stature there with him to announce whatever this is. And yet the president still seems wedded to tariffs as a big revenue generator. And they're just starting to kick in, but ultimately your tariffs are going to be over a trillion dollars a year, in my opinion. The last time these two leaders came face-to-face, Carney described the meeting as constructive. But with pressure building at home for a deal, the Prime Minister may have to deliver more than that this time around. J.P. Tasker, CBC News, Ottawa. Still ahead, showing up for strangers they'll never meet.
Starting point is 00:11:04 How volunteers in Ontario are giving dignified burials for people who have no one else. It's a bittersweet story, but beautiful too. And it's coming up on your world tonight. A year after becoming Mexico's president, Claudia Seenbaum is still remarkably popular. Polls show about three quarters of Mexicans back her policies, and they came out to show their support on Sunday
Starting point is 00:11:34 at a massive political rally. But as Jorge Barrera reports, Shane Baum does have her skeptics. Maria Del Carmen Ubert Guevara spent the night on a bus from Boko del Rio in the state of Veracruz to get to Mexico City and show her support for Mexican president, Claudia Seenbaum. She says the Shanebaum government gave her ownership papers for a home she lived in for 30 years as a squatter.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Uber Gevara was among tens of thousands of people who gathered in the historic heart of Mexico City for a rally celebrating the one-year anniversary of Shanebaum's presidency. Her government is a government of the people and for the people, Shane Baum says, standing on a large white stage. She listed her accomplishments, cutting poverty and crime rates while battling corruption. Wherever robs the people will face justice, she says.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Shame bomb is riding in over 70% approval rating, according to local polls, and her party is firmly in control of both houses of Congress. Congress. She has not made big mistakes. She has kept, you know, a very responsible line. Political analyst Carlos Bravo Regidor says Schaembaum faces serious intertwined challenges, a sluggish economy, a mercurial U.S. administration and deeply rooted organized crime that could mar her legacy in the remaining five years of her term. Her level of popularity is very high, but the approval of her.
Starting point is 00:13:18 her government is not that high. We are against all this government of Mexico that is taking control of everything. Jorge Agreda Vidales is part of a fledgling anti-government movement with a protest camp in a plaza by the National Palace. He says shame bombs, Morena Party is seizing all levers of power,
Starting point is 00:13:41 passing a law to elect judges and putting the military in charge of major public works projects threatening democracy. There will be democracy. There will no will be free expression. What's happening in Mexico? Days before Sunday's political rally, thousands March commemorating the October 2nd,
Starting point is 00:14:07 1968 massacre of students by the Mexican military. There were bullets, there were bullets that thundered, says 86-year-old Kiquette Pastor Toledo. He saw friends gunned down that day. He says there's been little progress to change as students demanded decades ago. Because of drug-fueled violence, he says Mexico is currently living
Starting point is 00:14:37 through one of its bloodiest eras. He says Mexico still has the potential to rise. And he loves his country. still. Jorge Berrera, CBC News, Mexico City. You've heard a lot about how Donald Trump's tariffs have affected Canadian industries, including earlier on this show. But here's one you probably haven't considered. India's seafood industry, specifically it's frozen shrimp industry. India is the largest shrimp supplier to the U.S., but now its shrimp farmers are struggling. CBC's South Asia correspondent Salima Shivji explains.
Starting point is 00:15:16 An early weekday morning and the shrimp harvest is on at this pond in India's eastern Andhra Pradesh state. A dozen men drag the water repeatedly, pulling the large nets in full of quivering shrimp. But the owner of the farm, Praveen Sabaneni, looks on in worry as the haul is carried out of the water. It's not the catch that's the problem. It's Donald Trump's steep 50% tariff on Indian exports. That's crushing India's frozen shrimp industry, Sabin. in any sense. We are seeing directly loss in price.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Nearly 40% we are lost. In production cost also, we are losing. There's so many expenses. So many expenses. A 40% cut in the price farmers used to get for their haul in mere weeks, with exports down dramatically. The United States was India's top market for exporting shrimp, worth more than $3.5 billion of sales in the last fiscal year.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Most of that, some 80% of the shrimp, came from this part of the country until the tariffs took hold. The initial 25% duty already had farmers stressed. But a further 25, imposed Trump said, to punish India for buying Russian oil, brought the total to 50%.
Starting point is 00:16:32 A devastating blow. That has forced these farmers to put much of their shrimp on ice and into storage indefinitely, as demand shrinks. Basker Kokiligata throws a handful of seeds into the pond. He's a daily worker who rotates through different shrimp farms to pick up shifts. And with the tariffs, he's not sure when his next job will come.
Starting point is 00:16:57 I only get 10 days of work a month now. It used to be 20, Kokelyagata says, and we get paid less per day. Everyone is desperate, he says, in an industry that supports more than a million jobs. As the farmers pour hundreds of shrimp into crates and sort them, there's little hope things will get better anytime soon. Educalbussani has a tiny plot of land with just one shrimp pond. It's too difficult these days, he says. I have loans and I'm barely earning.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I'm ready to give up. The state government is subsidizing electricity bills for shrimp farmers in Andhra Pradesh, and there's a big push for India to secure a trade deal with the U.S. After faltering in the summer, high-level talks are back on. But that means little for the women with few other job options, peeling and divaning at this shrimp processing plant.
Starting point is 00:17:51 They make less than $10 a day. How will we survive if this place shuts down, Radica N.T. asks, not even taking a second to pause her work, peeling shrimp after shrimp. We're all worried, the young mother says, we have nothing else. Salima Shivjee, CBC News, Peda, Putnam, Andhra Pradesh, India. teachers are set to strike Monday morning. They've been in a labor dispute with the provincial government for months. And after a breakdown in talks,
Starting point is 00:18:21 tens of thousands of teachers plan to walk off the job tomorrow. As Sam Samson tells us, families are now bracing for that. Water like a penguin. Blow like a whip. Nine-year-old Jackson Rummig has his favorite book, Downpat. The grade four student learned how to read in school, but an impending teacher strike will throw off his learning routine. His mother, Tanya, says that's challenging for a child living with autism who requires 24-hour care.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Him being in a specialized class is better for him with his sensory needs related to noise and related to the anxiety. And without it? It'll be difficult. Respite workers are not funded during school hours, so the rummigs are on their own. Tanya is in school full-time and her husband can't work from home. A prolonged strike would be, you know, devastating to us and to my education. Thousands of families are finding ways to deal with the province-wide teacher strike starting Monday.
Starting point is 00:19:21 It's a tipping point after months of negotiations between the province and the union. Teachers want more money, a cap on classroom sizes, and more resources for kids with complex needs. The province's latest offer included a 12% wage increase and 3,000 more teachers. That was rejected by almost 90% of Alberta Teachers Association members. We fully support the teachers. Though she now has to figure out what her three-school-aged children will do during the strike, day-home owner, Beverly McCool, says she stands with educators. And we're not asking for 15 student classrooms.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Like, they're asking for 25 students in the upper elementary. And they're not asking for swimming pools and lifeguards in every school or something. Like, it's, I don't know. Like, it's so frustrating. To help with the emergency childcare, the province promised parents of children 12 and under $30, a day, per child, while the strike is underway. Places like science centers and YMCA's are offering day camps to try and help parents out. Satashihu, who runs a Calgary-based babysitting company, is busier than ever.
Starting point is 00:20:24 So you have a lot of parents panicking. Thinking of what, where they're going to keep their kids. So, yeah, like my calls have gone from maybe five a day to 25. Fair deal now! Fair deal now! On Sunday, thousands gathered in Edmonton, Calgary, and other communities to show support for the strike, like Edmonton teacher Jill Kwasniewski and her 12-year-old daughter, Elliot. I mean, we're looking at class sizes.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Our daughter's been in class sizes with 43 children in them. And that doesn't let, yeah, it's shocking. It doesn't let teachers do what we know how to do with kids. We can't support kids the way we want to. Monday's strike is considered historic. It will be the first time all teachers in Alberta will walk off the job at once. Sam Samson, CBC News, Edmonton. Officials in Nova Scotia say a wildfire in Annapolis Valley is still burning out of control.
Starting point is 00:21:17 The province's Department of Natural Resources says the Lake George fire grew slightly over the weekend, up to 285 hectares as of Sunday morning. Firefighters have been dealing with dry and windy conditions, but continue working to build firebreaks around the perimeter. About 350 homes and cottages have been evacuated, but officials say so far no structures have been damaged. You're listening to Your World Tonight from CBC News. And if you want to make sure you never miss one of our episodes, follow us on Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Just find the follow button and lock us in. Many people die without any known family or friends. So there is no one to give them a proper send-off or ceremony. One Ontario funeral director recently put out a call looking for volunteers to act as pallbearers at burials for unclaimed bodies. The CBC's Hayden Waters went to the cemetery for one of those burials to see who showed up. Now, as soon as we do go to lift the casket, you may notice...
Starting point is 00:22:35 Mandy Howard is hoisting the coffin of somebody she didn't know. alongside strangers, she's never met. She heard about the call out for volunteer pal-bearers, and she knew she needed to show up. I do have family out there who are, quote-unquote, unclaimed. Due to homelessness or addictions, I feel like this was healing for me because none of us are unclaimed.
Starting point is 00:23:01 The strangers lay flowers, say a poem, Howard even brought her trump. I am First Nations MiGMA. Our way of saying goodbye is to sing a traveling song, and today I sang it for this gentleman so that he has a safe journey back to Skyworld, however long it does take him to get there and hope that that journey is one of, like, beauty and love. Because of privacy, few details are shared about the man there morning. His name was Michael, he lived in Toronto, and he was unhoused.
Starting point is 00:23:31 When a body goes unclaimed in Ontario, municipalities are responsible for paying for burials. They turn to funeral directors, like Nathan Rogmanoli, who put out that call for volunteers. He says this is his fifth unclaimed burial this week. It happens to elderly people, mid-aged people, and unfortunately, like this week, to an infant, a baby, which we cared for as well. We profess that nobody is unknown. Not every funeral director accepts unclaimed bodies, nor does every cemetery. Roe Magnolly blames the rate municipalities pay. The cemetery is the only cemetery that we,
Starting point is 00:24:06 would accept this individual. Danielle will help us to get organized. The number of unclaimed bodies in Ontario has spiked since the pandemic. Last year, there were over 1,400, according to the province's chief coroner. More than a thousand of those were in Toronto. Finding help for all those burials can prove challenging. But today, too many pallbearers turned up. About a dozen.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Much more than normal, says longtime volunteer Nathan Weezer. It's very special to all of us who do show up each time because it means that the people who are supposedly labeled as unclaimed, actually have a family, even if it's not a chosen family. The strangers stand around Michael's casket. Some are sobbing. Another starts humming. Then everyone else joins in.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Weezer has been to many unclaimed burials. But he says this one is special. The turnout has him emotional. It is a family of strangers coming together and a common purpose to show respect for this person and to lay them to rest with dignity. Hayden Waters, CBC News, Oshua, Ontario. Beyond a burial, a First Nation in Yukon is trying to keep its language and traditions alive,
Starting point is 00:25:27 even after the elder knowledge keepers are gone. To do that, the Nacho Nyak Dunn First Nation is using technology, turning the elders into holograms as a way to pass on their stories. Wenita Taylor reports. I think it's amazing. I'm really excited about it. I actually have goosebumps. Crystal Prophet is reacting to seeing her 70-year-old uncle as a hologram image. I had tears. Sitting lifelike in a white box, this digital version of Franklin Lee Patterson shares how to make medicine from plants around Mayo Yukon. that I learned from my elders
Starting point is 00:26:05 that I want to pass on. Patterson, from the Natchanoyikdan First Nation, also came out to the community hall to see the demonstration. I can't believe that there's two of me and Mayo. Well, it's technology. It looks so real.
Starting point is 00:26:21 A touch screen allows the user to select one of the elders to hear a story. Oh, my name is Walter Peter. I'm from Mayo and Nakhanaikdan Citizen. A little boy stands in front of the screen in awe, listening and watching another elder, Walter Peter, share a story.
Starting point is 00:26:41 To give me a name, below the jucker, which means dirty dish right. Knowing he is sitting at a table close by. Another young boy tries to touch the hand of an elder on the screen, checking to see if he's real. It's a collaborative project between the First Nation of Natcho Naya, and Carlton University, a relationship that's been building over 40 years. But they're not just generating holograms.
Starting point is 00:27:11 They're also building a digital archive of community objects and constructing a digital language model supported by artificial intelligence. The project is called Kwan Dekindol, or to keep the fire burning. Vital for the citizens of Natchanayok Dan, where there are fewer than a dozen speakers of their Northern Tachoni language. The sense of urgency felt very strongly here. Troy Anderson is a Carlton University professor who is working on the project.
Starting point is 00:27:45 In just the year that we have been working on this project, several others who speak Northern Tuchoni have left us. To build a language model, data out of old interviews has been collected, old cassette tapes, and archives. That model, supported by artificial intelligence, should one day be able to allow conversations with learners, suggest interpretation,
Starting point is 00:28:07 translate handwritten letters, and even generate new words and phrases. The software will be open source, and while Natchanayakdan information can only be accessed by community members, the system will be accessible to other First Nations. Teresa Sampson is the Natchanaya Dund's heritage manager. We are actually speaking our truth and knowing that we've lost access to our language,
Starting point is 00:28:33 but we're not going to let it go. We're going to bring it back, and it is our little fire, and we're going to tend to it until it's strong again. Important too for Elder Franklin Lee Patterson, who is getting used to seeing himself as a hologram. When I leave to the spirit world, I'm going to leave one whole.
Starting point is 00:28:58 what's behind on that machine. Juanita Taylor, CBC News, Mayo, Yukon. The story told on her back stays true to this world, and she carries that truth through centuries and centuries in centuries. Here's another way of keeping traditional teachings alive, a more classic way than holograms. This is a new symphonic work, called Granddaughter's Song.
Starting point is 00:29:31 It's a 53-minute blend of song and story, rooted in the seven grandfather teachings and Ashnabe principles for living a balanced life represented by animals. The cow trotted off little ways and stood still. After a few moments of silence, a rhythmic splashing emerged from the fog and the largest bull moose I'd ever seen
Starting point is 00:29:54 slowly walked into view. The piece was performed with the thunder Thunder Bay Symphony Orchestra to mark the National Day for Truth and Reconciliation. Its co-creators are two artists based in northwestern Ontario, pianist composer Micah Pollock and singer-songwriter Cheyenne Havorca, who is Anishnabe Quay from the Red Rock Indian Band. She spoke to CBC Radio's Superior Morning about the story and its deeper meaning. So the story actually takes place over a very long period of time
Starting point is 00:30:24 with this young girl just kind of living. kind of pre-teenish, through her teens into early adulthood. And as she's trying to really navigate living in a colonial setting, and throughout the story as well, we're not only just learning about the teaching, we're also really feeling how youth today, Nishinaabe youth, indigenous youth, are trying to walk these two roads, right? Trying to walk in this kind of settler world while also trying to hold on to traditions that have been passed down from generation to generation.
Starting point is 00:31:00 She says that woven into the story are references to racism, intergenerational trauma, and missing indigenous peoples, done so in a way that non-Indigenous people can learn more. Havorka and Pollock say they want granddaughter's song to be widely accessible, so you can find it online for free on major streaming platforms and YouTube.
Starting point is 00:31:22 And we'll play you a little more of it here, on your world tonight. I'm Stephanie Scandaris. Thank you for listening.

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