Your World Tonight - Ukraine peace plan, G20 summit wraps, Grizzly attack update, Alberta pipeline talks, and more.

Episode Date: November 23, 2025

The Trump administration is presenting its 28-point peace plan to end the war between Ukraine and Russia in Geneva. But some European leaders at the meeting say the document heavily favours Russia.Als...o: Prime Minister Mark Carney is returning to Canada from the G20 summit, one step closer to a trade deal with India. The two nations have agreed to restart trade talks after the relationship turned sour.And: An operation to capture a mother grizzly bear and her two cubs is underway in B.C.'s central coast... after a horrific attack on a group of elementary school students and their teachers on Thursday.Plus: The latest in the Middle East, protests in Serbia, financial challenges for Nigeria and more.

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Starting point is 00:00:27 Donate at lovescarbro.cairbo. This is a CBC podcast. Getting a final end to this war will require for Ukraine to feel as it is safe and it is never going to be invaded or attacked again. The U.S. says it's serious and optimistic about its peace plan for Ukraine, but security officials meeting in Geneva are skeptical. This is your world tonight. I'm Stephanie Scandaris. Also on the podcast, Breaking the Ice. At the G20, Canada and India agree to restart trade talks after the relationship turned frosty and...
Starting point is 00:01:09 I hope they walk away feeling more confident in their ability to bring indigenous programming into the classroom. Lessons in truth and reconciliation inspire Manitoba teachers to take those concepts to class. diplomatic efforts to end the war in Ukraine ramped up today. The Trump administration is presenting its 28-point peace plan to a meeting in Geneva. Prime Minister Mark Carney is among those expressing concern with the blueprint. Some European leaders at the meeting say the document heavily favors Russia,
Starting point is 00:01:46 but the U.S. insists progress is being made. Philip Lyshanok has the latest. On the front lines in Ukraine's Dinesk region, Unit Commander Vatali Trakalo is not happy about the details of a leaked draft U.S. peace proposal, which would mean giving up the territory he's defending. Why are we fighting then, he says. What's the point of all these sacrifices? On top of being asked to give up territory,
Starting point is 00:02:15 the leaked 28-point peace plan includes capping the size of the Ukrainian. Army, a prohibition on membership in NATO, and not allowing European troops in Ukraine. At the Halifax Security Forum, U.S. Senator Jean Shaheen questioned the origins of the U.S. peace plan. I believe this is a Russian proposal. While he initially denied it, in Geneva talks between the U.S., Ukraine, and its European allies, U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio confirmed the origins of the plan. We began from the early stage of this process with our understanding of the Russian position
Starting point is 00:02:50 as I've been communicated to us. But it was a starting point that he says has generated more momentum towards a deal in months. This is a living, breathing document. Every day with input, it changes. I honestly believe we'll get there. At the G20 meeting in South Africa, European leaders, Japan and Canada
Starting point is 00:03:07 said the plan needed work. After speaking with Ukrainian president, Vladimir Zelensky, Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney said Ukraine needs to be at the center of any negotiations. And today Zelensky posted on social media that there are signs President Trump's team hears us. U.S. President Donald Trump has backed away from suggesting the plan was an ultimatum with a Thursday deadline. Professor Daniel Dresner teaches international politics at Tufts University.
Starting point is 00:03:38 He says these talks may again be a false start, much like the summit in Anchorage, Alaska, between Trump and Russian president Vladimir Putin. We've already seen Russia express skepticism about a peace plan that apparently originated from them. The Ukrainians, obviously, are not thrilled with us. The Europeans have pushed back. And indeed, the very fact that Donald Trump is backtracked saying that the 28-point plan was not the final settlement, but rather an initial starting point, and relatively pessimistic that there'll be an actual peace plan. Meanwhile, Rubio says the talks will continue for as long as necessary, but U.S. and Ukrainian officials say Zelensky could fly to the U.S. this week.
Starting point is 00:04:17 The Schenock, CBC News, Toronto. The G20 summit in South Africa has ended, and Mark Carney is returning to Canada one step closer to a trade deal with India. The Prime Minister says negotiations are starting towards a deal that could more than double two-way trade with India to more than $70 billion. CBC's Carina Roman has more from Johannesburg. Canada has quite an actual strong commercial relationship with India. And Prime Minister Mark Carney wants to go even for.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Further, in his one-on-one meeting with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi today, Carney ramped up efforts at rekindling relations with India by agreeing to launch talks towards a comprehensive trade deal. We don't have a comprehensive economic partnership agreement with India, one of the world's largest and fastest growing economies. The ability to have more effective trade with them, to scale that trade with them, would be greatly helped by that. And Carney says that this can be done without.
Starting point is 00:05:17 losing sight of the ongoing investigation into the murder of a sick activist in Canada, a murder allegedly sponsored by India, or that CISIS recently warned that India still poses a serious threat to some Canadians. We have to remain vigilant. Angling for more trade with India comes on the heels of Canada launching trade talks with United Arab Emirates last week. Carney is almost singularly focused on diversifying Canada's markets to become less reliant on the U.S. But what is his red line? Are there countries he wouldn't deal with,
Starting point is 00:05:51 no matter the financial opportunity? All relationships are not equal. They're not of equal depth. And certainly it's not the case. When we engage with a country, that we're endorsing everything that country does. The two do not follow. Karni says there are priority countries for Canada, while there are other regions that aren't top of the list. African countries certainly feel that hierarchy. Edward Afuko heads the political science department at the University of Fraser Valley in BC. The government does seem to be losing sight of the major transformations that is taking place on the continent. It's quite mind-boggling that we see this growth in mining, we see this growth in trade, and yet we seem not to see the opportunities that continent presents in North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:06:39 While at the G20, Carney launched talks for an investment agreement with South Africa. But he concedes in his first months, as Prime Minister, he prioritized Europe, the UK, Mexico, and Asia. So when you look at where's the most immediate return for Canadians, you start there. As to stalled trade talks with the U.S., Carney was asked when he last spoke to President Donald Trump, who boycotted the summit.
Starting point is 00:07:04 I've been busy. When pressed, Carney said, Who cares? I mean, it's a detail. I'll speak to him again when it matters. Carney says maybe in the next two weeks, but he said he has nothing burning to talk about with Trump. Adding that when Trump is ready to talk trade again,
Starting point is 00:07:20 he knows how to reach Carney. Karina Roman, CBC News, Johannesburg. So while Carney isn't talking with Trump, he is speaking with Alberta's Premier. They're expected to sign a deal this week that could get the province closer to a new oil pipeline. The PM was asked about it today. J.P. Tasker has his reason.
Starting point is 00:07:39 response and the major pushback to a potential project that would run through BC. The center of gravity in the global economy is shifting. After a swing through the Middle East in Africa to build trade ties, Prime Minister Mark Carney says a new oil pipeline to northwest BC could help Canada diversify its economy. What we are doing is a series of major investments, nation-building projects that make our country stronger, more independent from the United States. Carney is locked in negotiations with Alberta Premier Daniel Smith
Starting point is 00:08:14 on a plan for the province's energy future. Sources tell CBC News the Prime Minister is open to approving a pipeline that carries crude to the BC coast, then on to points in Asia. The federal government is also weighing exemptions to the Trudeau-era BC oil tanker ban that block ships from carrying that product. Publicly, Carney says there's still some work to do before there's a deal in hand.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Those discussions are ongoing. They have been constructive. There is a prospect of an agreement. It's not finalized. All of this is news to the BC Premier. David Eby says he's been left out of talks on a project that could run right through his province. This project that just has no economic sense to it and is not being advanced by anyone other than a politician that, frankly, is in political trouble at home. That's a shot at Smith, who is urging naysayers to get out of the way. A lot of people wrap themselves in the flag, talking about how much they support Canada, want to work together, and then when it comes right down to it, not everybody, it lives up to that commitment. Some BC First Nations are also diametrically opposed, fearful a potential oil spill could ruin their pristine part of the province. Marilyn Slet is the president of Coastal First Nations, a group opposed to oil infrastructure in the region.
Starting point is 00:09:29 This is our home. We rely upon a healthy ocean to sustain our way of life and add. oil tankers to this. It's just not something that we can support. Still, oil patch boosters say the risk is worth it, especially with Canada's economy under threat. Jason Kenny is the former Premier of Alberta. With the big trade challenges coming from south of the border, I think we have to do things like this. If Ottawa gives this pipeline the green light, it would be another example of the Prime Minister doing a 180 on his predecessor's policies. Justin Trudeau pushed through the tanker ban and proposed an emissions cap on the oil and gas sector. Carney seems determined to go in a different direction.
Starting point is 00:10:10 J.P. Tasker, CBC News, Ottawa. In BC's central coast, an operation is underway to capture a mother grizzly bear. and her two cubs after a horrific attack on a group of elementary school students and their teachers. Yasmy Renea is in Belakula, where stories are emerging about the group's courage and bravery. Outside a youth center in Belakula, a bonfire burns to honor those hurt in Thursday's shocking attack. The center is surrounded by forests, where conservation officers are searching for three bears. Speaking from experience, this is probably the most dangerous. thing that conservation officers do.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Jeff Tire with the BC Conservation Officer Service says based on witness accounts, it's likely that a mother grizzly bear with two cubs was involved in the attack on a group of about 20 elementary school students and teachers. The bears don't necessarily cooperate, but we're doing everything we can, working with the RC&P and the nation. And want to reiterate again that we need people to stay out of our trap and snare sites. An RCMP helicopter with thermal imaging is searching in the air, while additional RCMP and conservation officers have been dispatched to help on the ground.
Starting point is 00:11:43 We're hoping to capture, take DNA, and make some observations based on some of the interview, some of the statements that were made to us. Officials say they have not yet decided whether any of the bears will be euthanized. Tire says any bears that are ruled to not be involved in the attack, will likely be relocated. In total, 11 people were injured. Three children and one adult, part of an independent school run by the Newhawk Nation,
Starting point is 00:12:11 remain in hospital with major injuries. New Hulk Chief Samuel Schooner says it's going to be a long road to recovery. Not only physically but mentally, you know, and the nation is just standing behind them and that, you know, that they're in our thoughts and prayers. He says stories are emerging about the teacher, and students who heroically stepped in to save others and that those tales will be told eventually. You know how most people are running away from a fire and this one turned around and went right back into the fire
Starting point is 00:12:45 and at that age you know that simple heroic behavior to save our classmates. The fire at the youth center will burn until tomorrow with students expected to return to class Tuesday as they continue to process the tragedy. Yasmil Ganea, CBC News, Belakula, British Columbia. Several American lawmakers are coming forward to say they're being targeted, facing new concerns about their physical safety, including death threats. Some are pointing the finger directly at U.S. President Donald Trump, blaming the sometimes violent language he uses, particularly on social media.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Katie Simpson reports from Washington. I think almost immediately the security situation changed for all of us. Democratic Senator Alyssa Slotkin says she and some of her colleagues are dealing with a spike in threats to their safety, blaming U.S. President Donald Trump after his pointed attacks against them on social media. Senator Mark Kelly is another Trump target. He should understand that his words could have serious, serious consequences. Both lawmakers are among the Democrats who appeared in a controversial online. video that has clearly upset Trump, a video with a direct message for American troops. You can refuse illegal orders.
Starting point is 00:14:07 You can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders. Trump reacted strongly. On social media, he called it seditious behavior punishable by death. The White House tried to walk back his comments saying he wasn't actually threatening death. But his words resonated, according to Congressman Jason Crow, another Democrat in the video. When you have the president of the United States threatening to execute and to hang and to arrest using this rhetoric, people listen to it. During an interview Sunday, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent defended Trump this way.
Starting point is 00:14:40 There are 2.1 million service members. And you're probably going to ask, you're probably going to say, oh, these service, these, the, like, off the rail, representatives have gotten death threats. What about the 2.1 million service members? They have put their lives at risk. There are now calls for calm coming from all across the political spectrum, including Republican Senator Rand Paul. The idea that calling your opponent's traitors and then specifically saying that it warrants the death penalty is reckless, inappropriate, irresponsible. All of this comes as Trump ally turned critic Marjorie Taylor Green announced her plan to resign from Congress, a decision she made after experiencing person. safety threats, which she, too, blames on Trump's rhetoric. I should go your own way.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Green's resignation surprised many in Washington, including Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, who is often a target of Trump's attacks. You're on the other side of the president for one week, and you can't take the heat. Imagine what it is to sit in my shoes. Trump's tone is not softening, at least not on social media. He continues to post a wide range of messages, often amplifying his attacks. Katie Simpson, CBC News, Washington. You're listening to Your World Tonight from CBC News. And if you want to make sure you
Starting point is 00:16:07 never miss one of our episodes, follow us on Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts. Just find the follow button and lock us in. says an Israeli air strike on the capital Beirut has killed five people and injured at least 25. Israel's military says one of the dead is a senior member of Hezbollah. The strike comes almost exactly a year since a ceasefire between Hezbollah and Israel. There have been many strikes on Lebanon since. This is the first on Beirut since June. As Tom Perry reports, there have also been Israeli attacks on Gaza this weekend. Rescue workers, police, and soldiers gathered around an apartment block in the southern suburbs of Beirut,
Starting point is 00:17:02 staring up at a hole punched through the building and down at debris scattered on the ground. Israel says this attack was aimed at a senior commander from Hezbollah. Shosh Badrosian is a spokesperson for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. A short while ago, the IDF attacked the Hezbollah chief of staff in the hearts of Beirut, who led the strengthening and arming of the terrorist organization. Prime Minister Netanyahu ordered the attack upon the recommendation of the defense minister and the IDF chief of staff. From Hezbollah, a furious response.
Starting point is 00:17:39 This attack crosses a new red line, says Mahmoud Kamati, deputy leader of the group's political council. Israel and Hezbollah agreed to a ceasefire nearly a year ago, and while it's been months since the Israeli military, has struck Beirut, it's been hitting targets in southern Lebanon with increasing regularity. Benjamin Netanyahu met with his cabinet today and told them Israel was continuing to strike terrorism on several fronts. Doing whatever is necessary, he says, to keep Hezbollah from regrouping and re-arming, striking as well in the Gaza Strip, where a ceasefire with Hamas is barely six weeks old.
Starting point is 00:18:19 The Israeli military unleashed a string of airstrikes in north and central Gaza over the weekend. A response, Israel says, to Hamas firing on Israeli soldiers. In one attack near Gaza City on Saturday, crowds rushed to pull bodies from a flaming car, blown to pieces by an Israeli strike. There's an attack every five minutes, says Abu Muhammad Ali. Every minute there's an attack. It's not a ceasefire. This is a lie. Gaza's health ministry says this latest round of strikes killed more than 20 people
Starting point is 00:18:56 and that more than 300 Palestinians have died in Israeli attacks since the October ceasefire. Israel's military says three of its soldiers have been killed in that same period. Both Hamas and Israel accuse each other of violating their ceasefire agreement. Israel and Hezbollah have exchanged the same accusations. In Lebanon and in Gaza, ceasefire deals. have not eliminated the violence, just reduced its scale. Tom Perry, CBC News, Jerusalem. In Nigeria, 50 of the over 300 children who were abducted by gunmen in the Northwest have escaped.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Armed bandits kidnapped the students and 12 teachers from a Catholic school on Friday. The Christian Association of Nigeria says the children who escaped have reunited with their families. A major military-led operation is currently under. way to find the remaining captives. Last Monday, more than 20 girls were kidnapped from another school. Authorities in several states have now ordered schools to close. The U.S. government has noticed those mass kidnappings. Earlier this month, Donald Trump warned the Nigerian government
Starting point is 00:20:06 that if it didn't protect its Christian citizens, the U.S. would go into the country, guns ablazing. The government says it may use sanctions and military actions. As freelance reporter, Kuhnla Babs tells us, Those threats have sent shockwaves through Nigeria's economy. The Naira weakened immediately after Trump's threat. People rushed to buy dollars out of fear. Adam Mosei runs a Burr-Dashon in Nigerian in Nigeria's capital, Abuja.
Starting point is 00:20:37 He says Donald Trump's threats of possible military action in Nigeria sent traders and ordinary Nigerians into panic. And the country's currency, the Naira began to slide. Within 24 hours, the NARA recorded his biggest one-day loss since June. In the last few days, more people are coming to buy dollars. Everyone just wants to protect their money before things get worse. The stock market also reacted sharply. The NGX all-shear index splurged by nearly 1,400 points,
Starting point is 00:21:12 wiping out about 930 million US dollars in value in a single day. end, total losses has climbed above $2 billion dollars as panic spread across equities, bonds and money markets. For a country already battling record high inflation, the shock has added even more pressure on the economy. When the nearer falls, everything changes. Mary Gang sells clothes in one of Abuja's major markets. She says the currency instability makes running her business a daily challenge. Supplier raise price. Transportation costs go up and customers buy less. You can't keep your business stable when the currency keeps falling. The United States is a significant trading partner to Nigeria, but the Trump administration's
Starting point is 00:21:56 recent decision to classify Nigeria as a country of particular concern opened the doors for sanctions. Economies warned that this could further weaken Nigeria's already fragile economy. If the U.S. goes ahead with sanctions, it could disrupt trade, limit access to foreign credit and reduce development funding. that would slow economic growth and worse in Nigeria's inflation and unemployment problems. Economist Andrea O'Chonnell says Nigeria must act quickly to rebuild confidence and reduce its vulnerability to external shocks. The government needs to engage diplomatically with the US to avoid sanctions, but more importantly, strengthening domestic production and diversify exports.
Starting point is 00:22:43 that's the only way to make our economy less dependent on foreign politics. For now, Nigerian's markets remains on edge. For ordinary Nigerians, the fear is already real, rising prices, unstable markets, and shrinking incomes. Even if the sanctions never come, the anxiety has already taken its toll. Kunle Babs, CBC News, Abuja, Nigeria. A real estate project linked to Donald Trump's son-in-law is causing an uproar in Serbia. Jared Kushner's firm is aiming to build a Trump international hotel on a historically sensitive site. The Serbian government pushed through a special law to allow for the redevelopment.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Freelance reporter Guy Delaney now on the public anger that followed. Thousands of people marched down one of Belgrade's main boulevards in early November towards the Defence Ministry complex. They surrounded the bomb damaged buildings with what they called a human. wall. The protests are a reaction to the Serbian Parliament's vote to allow a Trump International Hotel to be built on the site. The US President's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, co-owns the company that will carry out the development. For the people on the streets, this is bitterly ironic. U.S. planes bombed Serbia in 1999, and now there could be a tower
Starting point is 00:24:03 bearing the current U.S. president's name on the site of one of the most notorious NATO airstrikes. to the humiliation, says this man at the protest. It undermines our national identity and disrupts our culture and traditions. I used to work in this building, says another protester. It's part of our cultural heritage, and we simply can't give that away. The Defence Ministry Complex is a collection of buildings at the heart of the city, sporting shattered windows, crumbling concrete and twisted metal. But it's been granted, protected heritage.
Starting point is 00:24:42 status, both as a war memorial and in recognition of its architectural significance. Nikola Dobrovich was one of the greatest architects of that period of the 20th century, but this is the only and probably the most important building that he built in this country and it's the only one in Belgrade. Denezer Pradanovich is an architect and program director at the Belgrade Culture Center. Anything of that kind, any kind of hotel, and especially American hotels. Then Donald Trump's son-in-law hotel, it's unacceptable. The most important thing from my point of view would be that our state find a way to reconstruct it on our own.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Everything else is completely wrong. But the protests won't phase Serbia's president, Alexander Vucic. He says granting a concession to Jared Kushner's affinity global company was in Serbia's best interests. It's important to overcome the burden from 1999, he told me. We understand the importance of improving relations with the US and I think we've made a lot of good contacts in that regard. That is terribly important for this country. But people who know about property development
Starting point is 00:26:04 doubt whether the location, which is full of government and diplomatic buildings, make sense for a Trump International Hotel. They also warned that the lack of any bidding process may cause ill feelings among investors. If there's buildings that's owned by, in essence, the taxpayer, then there is an open market way of dealing with that. Andrew Pearson is the managing director of regional real estate developers, I.O. partners. There's lots of good local developers and lots of international developers working in Serbia for years, who've invested tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions into that country. I'd feel a bit sad that I wasn't given the chance to buy that personally.
Starting point is 00:26:46 The lack of transparency is one more factor that's brought the protesters to the streets. They say they're ready for a long struggle to block the development. Guy Delaney for CBC News in Belgrade, Serbia. Teachers in Manitoba are getting a new lesson in reconciliation. Dozens of them attended a session last week on how to integrate truth and reconciliation concept. in their classes. Karen Pauls was there. This is part of a bundle. Our relative in the center, Mayagan.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Cultural carrier, Jeannie Whitebird, is telling a group of Manitoba teachers about traditional indigenous medicine. And just take a little bit, and even if it's just putting it on your arm. Her Inuit helper, Katie Mae Arawak-Dunford, says it's an honor to teach the teachers. I know the knowledge that I carry. I know the skills that I carry. and I know that I'm happy to share those. In another room...
Starting point is 00:27:40 The hand drum is one way of bringing community together. Not a performance, but a lesson on the significance of drumming. These teachers are learning about indigenous cultures and how to incorporate those teachings into their classrooms. Dene Gringway teaches math and science in a French immersion middle school. It just makes you a little more aware of why certain issues may exist and how you can at least become knowledgeable so that we're all growing together as a cohesive and inclusive society.
Starting point is 00:28:15 The Truth and Reconciliation Commission had several calls to action on education, including developing a curriculum on the history of residential schools, treaties and indigenous peoples, providing culturally appropriate teacher training through indigenous communities, and giving students chances to learn from survivors. all three territories and at least six provinces have formal documented commitments to implement those calls to action. But it's still a work in progress, says University of Calgary Education Professor Yvonne Poitra Pratt. They're really fearful of teaching this material and then
Starting point is 00:28:54 going into parent-teacher interviews and having parents react very strongly, negatively, to the teaching of indigenous perspectives. So they're hitting a lot. lot of roadblocks, you know, that go well beyond the curriculum. Back at the professional development session, education student, Ria Semenovich, says this will help her be a better teacher. So we want the students to start thinking outside the box, right? And I think by bringing that perspective in, they are like, oh, it's not, we're all connected. We have to respect the land because it's not going to be here if we don't.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Lannis Lassarchuk is planning to teach French and social studies. Her family is from the Caribbean, so she says she has a lot to learn herself. Things I don't know anything about, and now I'm curious to know more about and share that. And that's the whole point, says Kat Marsh, a Métis Middle School vice principal. So I think there's a lot of work to do, but I think that we're moving in a good way. I hope they walk away today feeling more confident in their ability to bring Indigenous programming into the classroom. The late Senator, Judge, and TRC Chief Commissioner Murray Sinclair grew up and went to school in this community. He often said, education is what good.
Starting point is 00:30:03 got us into this mess, and it's the key to getting us out of it. Karen Paul's, CBC News, Selkirk, Manitoba. A chorus, you likely know well, except for where that drumbeat actually comes in. Figuring it out has become a big challenge online. Tons of people, like Scarlett Johansson, trying and failing to nail the timing. drum comes in. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Song producer and Canadian David Foster admits it's hard. It has to do with the boom landing in between beats. Here's your shot to get it. The drumbeat of I Will Always Love You is coming up on your world tonight. I will always love you. I'm Stephanie Skandaris. Thanks for playing along. I will always love you. I will always love you.

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