Your World Tonight - U.S. senators in Ottawa, Gaza crisis, lipedema treatment options, and more

Episode Date: July 21, 2025

Four U.S. senators are in Ottawa trying to smooth the trade relationship between the two countries, ten days before the latest Trump tariff deadline.And: Israel’s military is shelling Deir al Balah.... The central Gazan city is one of the few places considered somewhat safe… it’s critical to aid groups, and may also be where Hamas is hiding many of the remaining hostages.Also: Canadian women say they’re being forced to look abroad for treatment for lipedema. It’s a chronic and sometimes painful condition, but in Canada – treatments are limited, and not usually covered by provincial plans.Plus: Russia bombards Ukraine’s capital, Quebec man charged with daughter’s murder, evacuation order in Newfoundland’s Musgrave Harbour, and more.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You sailed beyond the horizon in search of an island scrubbed from every map You battled crackens and navigated through storms Your spades struck the lid of a long-lost treasure chest While you cooked a lasagna There's more to imagine when you listen. Discover bestselling adventure stories on Audible. This is a CBC Podcast. I cannot explain President Trump's rhetoric about the 51st state.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Certainly here in Canada, you can sense that there is a direct hostility, if you will, to that suggestion. U.S. senators hearing firsthand what Canadians think of Donald Trump's dreams of annexing Canada. They're on a visit to Ottawa, talking trade, and they even brought friendship bracelets. But the trip has a strategic purpose too. They're on a visit to Ottawa, talking trade, and they even brought friendship bracelets. But the trip has a strategic purpose too, looking for concessions as tariff negotiations continue. Welcome to Your World Tonight. I'm Angie Sepp.
Starting point is 00:01:14 It is Monday, July 21st, coming up on 6pm Eastern, also on the podcast. We reiterate the message that Canada and 25 other nations delivered today calling for an immediate ceasefire, of course, the release of all the hostages, but also the resumption at scale of humanitarian aid. A call from the highest levels of power in Canada and 24 other countries whose leaders say the suffering in Gaza is reaching new and dangerous depths.
Starting point is 00:01:45 As aid trickles in, for the first time Israel's military is launching a major offensive in an area that's prompting warnings from people in Gaza and Israel itself. Mark Carney may have been hoping to meet with Donald Trump today, but this was the Prime Minister's original date for getting a trade deal done with the United States. That's since been moved to August 1st but Carney did welcome American visitors today. Four senators looking for some common ground and an upper hand on some key sticking points. Rafi Bocchanian explains. Can you tell us what the braces you're wearing?
Starting point is 00:02:23 I love it. To symbolize the relationship. The four American senators visiting Ottawa on Monday to talk trade with Prime Minister Mark Carney and members of his cabinet, showing off their veteran white handmade bands on their wrists. I cannot explain President Trump's rhetoric about the 51st state. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, the only Republican in the group, insisting they won't be handcuffed by their president's divisive rhetoric. I don't think that that's constructive, quite honestly.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Certainly here in Canada, you can sense that there is a direct hostility, if you will, to that suggestion. But this friendly visit comes with its own requests, outlined by Democrat Ron Wyden, a ranking member of the U.S. Senate's finance committee, first on the digital services tax, which Canada recently agreed to cancel. I ask that Canada move as quickly as possible to get a law passed in parliament, making sure that it's gone permanently. And then about placing quotas on softwood lumber, a significant export from British Columbia
Starting point is 00:03:35 and Quebec among others. We asked about how we could make progress on dealing with that issue, which has been an irritant between the United States and Canada for decades." Widen suggesting Carney is open to both ideas. The federal government has already offered an olive branch on the DST, forgoing billions of dollars in revenue and saying it would legislate the cancellation of the levy on
Starting point is 00:03:59 American tech giants. Carney spoke briefly about his sit down with the U.S. lawmakers. How was the meeting with senators? It was good. It was very good meeting. Thank you very much. tech giants. Carney spoke briefly about a sit down with the US lawmakers. How was the meeting with senators? How'd it go? It was good. It was very good meeting. Thank you very much. The prime minister's office says the meeting touched on the steel industry and border security. It did not mention softwood lumber, but Carney did say last week a quota on lumber could be one element of a deal.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Just as he also started hinting, Canadians may have to accept a baseline tariff in a new agreement with the U.S. Softwood may actually be one of those opportunities for us to strike an early deal with the Americans. At a meeting of all premiers in Huntsville, Ontario, B.C.'s David E.B. says the industry is showing more willingness on quotas than it has in the past. If we can get some good momentum on some of these, then maybe then an awareness will start to come across that maybe we're better off in a less antagonistic posture.
Starting point is 00:04:50 But at the end of the day, you know, we can't depend on that. Trade and tariffs will very much be on the agenda tomorrow when Carney will travel to the premier's meeting for another round of talks about dealing with the U.S. Rafi Boudjikani on CBC News, Ottawa. As Carney preps for that trip, the premiers are unpacking the Prime Minister's new infrastructure policy. They've been meeting with Indigenous leaders concerned about what the legislation means
Starting point is 00:05:16 for their lands, their rights and their economic future. Olivia Stefanovich has more. I'm feeling fantastic. Welcome to Huntsville. What a great town. Ontario Premier Doug Ford arriving by motorcade for the annual summer gathering with other provincial leaders. The premiers are working on their response to the trade war with the U.S. including how they can strengthen Canada's economy by building projects of national interest.
Starting point is 00:05:43 This is an opportunity of a lifetime. This door is only open for so long. Ford says there's never been a better time for Indigenous communities to get on board. They're welcome to walk through that door and partner with the entire country and partner with Ontario to make their lives more prosperous. The premiers invited several Indigenous leaders to their first day of meetings to make that pitch but skepticism remains about just how much Indigenous communities can benefit from big energy and infrastructure projects set to be fast-tracked under new federal and provincial laws. Balancing the need
Starting point is 00:06:19 for economic participation that benefits and making sure that those benefits don't come at the expense of you know duty to consult. Victoria Pruden is the president of the Métis National Council. She was part of the three-hour discussion. Having the opportunity to be in the same room with all provinces and territories and be able to share our message I want you know we want to get that message across. Prudence says the main message Indigenous leaders convey to premiers is to work with them on major projects so as not to see new railroads, highways or pipelines forced on them.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And I think in this new world that we're in, we have to figure out a way to get to yes faster. Alberta Premier Danielle Smith also says investors need greater assurances. It doesn't mean that there isn't a robust consultation that has to happen but it has to happen at a time frame where a proponent is going to know that the answer is yes and how to get there. Today's meeting comes after nine First Nations launched a legal challenge against the federal and Ontario major project laws and a contentious summit between First Nations and the Prime Minister. It's always tough conversations but it's so important that
Starting point is 00:07:31 you know that we find a different way in this country. Cindy Woodhouse-Nipinac attended both meetings. She's the National Chief of the Assembly of First Nations. We're all united against you know Trump's illegal tariffs but they have to make sure though that there's space for First Nations people at these tables. And going forward, the premiers say they will work with the Prime Minister to include the National Chief at future First Ministers meetings. Olivia Stavanovic, CBC News, Huntsville, Ontario. Coming up on the podcast, a Canadian father-daughter's weekend getaway in the US ends in horror and advocating for treatment for rare and painful condition lipidemia. Those stories and more coming up on your World Tonight.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Horrifying, inhumane, unacceptable. Those words are being used by Canada, together with 24 other countries, to describe the situation in Gaza. A joint statement calling for an immediate ceasefire. This is Israel launches a risky new offensive. Nala Ayed reports. With the sounds of conflict echoing behind, displaced Palestinians pushed ahead on carts and bicycles, forced to move yet again. Just as we came from the north with only our clothes, we're leaving with only our clothes, says Ahmed Abou El-Hussein, who had grabbed his children and left under fire overnight. Have mercy on us.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Enough, enough pain, he says. It is the first time Israeli forces have launched a major offensive in this slice of Gaza, a key hub for several humanitarian agencies and now, Israel says, a necessary target. But according to sources, the Israeli army suspects Deir el-Balah may be where Hamas is hiding some of the remaining Israeli hostages. Their families say they're alarmed demanding in a statement that the prime minister and defense officials explain publicly how they plan to protect hostages' lives. The people of Gaza says the World Food Program have reached new levels of desperation. Dozens more Palestinians shot while trying to get
Starting point is 00:09:55 food. In one instance by Israeli soldiers who say they were only warning shots due to an immediate threat. Now, 28 foreign ministers, including Canada's, condemned the drip-feeding of aid and the inhumane killing of civilians, including children. Prime Minister Mark Carney underlined their message in a meeting with Jordan's King Abdullah. The message that Canada and 25 other nations deliver today calling for an immediate ceasefire,
Starting point is 00:10:24 of course, the release of all the hostages, but also the resumption at scale of humanitarian aid. The Israeli Foreign Ministry dismissed the declaration as misguided and counterproductive. The deprivation is increasingly killing people, including three-month-old Yahya Al-Najjar, his mother cradling his shrouded body ahead of his burial. He was dehydrated and malnourished, she says. Dr. Fida Al-Nadi, a pediatrician at the Al Nasser Hospital,
Starting point is 00:10:57 where they tried to save Yahya's life. During the previous months, we have lost more than 73 cases of children due to malnutrition. And this is increasing every day. And every moment this conflict continues leaves the vulnerable even more so. Nala Ayed, CBC News, London. Meanwhile, the vulnerability of people in Ukraine is once again on full display. Overnight Russia launched one of its largest aerial attacks in recent months. Ukraine is also firing drones right back at Russia with each side hitting the other's capital city. Alexander Silverman has the latest.
Starting point is 00:11:33 A new bombardment of deadly Russian missiles pounded Ukraine overnight into Monday. Explosions lighting up the night sky as hundreds of drones attacked cities across the country. The majority of Russia's aerial attacks shot down, but 23 struck their targets. Keefe resident Oleksandr Bordachevsky says he was lying in bed when a strike hit nearby, sending fragments of glass flying onto his bed. His apartment building then caught on fire. The smoke was spreading to my balcony, he says. I ran back to the front door and, fueled by adrenaline, managed to break it down.
Starting point is 00:12:17 In Kyiv, a drone struck an entrance to a subway station where people had taken cover. The platform, engulfed in smoke with dozens of people inside. The heaviest strikes hitting a neighborhood in the capital where a kindergarten, supermarket and warehouse caught fire. It is very scary with a child at home says Olha Nikitina who lives in the area. There are many more attacks. We counted 29 to 30 missiles just above our house. Ukraine also fired long-range drones into Russia causing cancellations and delays at airports near Moscow. The heightened
Starting point is 00:12:58 scale and intensity of the attacks comes just days before the possible resumption of ceasefire talks. Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy says talks to end the war are complex and can only be effective if held leader to leader. But Russia is taking steps to escalate arms production and further ramp up attacks. Video broadcast on state television shows teenagers 14 and 15 years old, building drones to hit Ukraine. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov says the two sides remain far apart in their ceasefire proposals. With the war showing few signs of abating, allies are pledging to bolster support for Ukraine. French Foreign Minister Jean-Noël Barreau
Starting point is 00:13:45 visited Monday and tore some of the damage. We need to keep up our efforts and to keep applying more and more pressure on Russia. Russia's conditions for peace include an acceptance of territorial gains, Ukrainian neutrality, and limits on its armed forces. But Ukraine has refused and
Starting point is 00:14:05 maintains it has the right to determine if it will join NATO. Talks are expected to resume in Turkey on Wednesday. Alexander Silberman, CBC News, Regina. Bangladesh declared a national day of mourning Tuesday after at least 19 people were killed when an Air Force training jet crashed into a school. Another 50 were injured, most with burns. The school is for students between 4 At least 19 people were killed when an Air Force training jet crashed into a school. Another 50 were injured, most with burns. The school is for students between 4 and 18 years old. The military says the jet was on a routine training mission but experienced a technical
Starting point is 00:14:35 malfunction shortly after takeoff. The pilot tried to divert the plane away from a densely populated area. He was also killed in the crash. The Trump administration has released records of the FBI's surveillance of civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. FBI records released previously show the bureau wiretapped King's telephone lines, bugged his hotel rooms, and used informants. King was assassinated in 1968. King's family and the group he led had objected to the release. The records have been under a court-imposed seal since 1977. They were meant to remain sealed until 2027. A vacation to the United States ended in a devastating tragedy this weekend for a young
Starting point is 00:15:32 girl from Montreal. She was found dead yesterday in upstate New York and today her father was charged with murder. Jamie Strashan takes us through what the men initially told police and why they didn't believe him. His nine-year-old daughter was possibly abducted in a white van. On Saturday night, just before 10, police in Warren County, tucked away in the northeastern part of New York State, receive a call from a man who says his daughter is being abducted. Hours later, an Amber Alert is issued but then taken down after it's determined no abduction took place.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Robert McConnell is the Bureau of Criminal Investigation captain for the New York State Police. He reports a suspicious white van fleeing the scene southbound. During a subsequent interview, he then reports two unknown males forced her into a white van. That lead was thoroughly investigated and disproven. This morning police charged 45 year old Luciano Frattolini with second degree murder and concealing a corpse. His nine-year-old daughter Molina was found Sunday dead in a shallow pond under a log in a remote area near the New York Vermont border. An autopsy is being done to determine the cause of death.
Starting point is 00:16:45 This is certainly a difficult case, a heartbreaking investigation. McConnell says Frattoline was on vacation with his daughter and entered the United States legally on July 11th. He says Molina lived full-time with her mother in Montreal since the couple became estranged in 2019. Police say that around 6.30 on Saturday evening she spoke with with her mother telling her she was on her way back to Canada and surveillance tape from around that time appears to show Molina in good health. The investigation has determined sometime after Molina's phone call with her mother and before Mr. Fratow's Nia Wong call, he allegedly murdered Molina.
Starting point is 00:17:22 In cases where a parent allegedly kills a child, there is usually a similar fact pattern, says Katrina Scott. She's with the Centre for Research and Education on Violence Against Women and Children at Western University. When we look at those cases retrospectively, we find that almost all of them have a history of domestic violence or risk factors and warning signs for domestic violence. But early reports indicate that wasn't the case here. McConnell says the mother was aware of the trip and had no concerns about her daughter's safety. We have no information that there's any, any issues with, with mental health.
Starting point is 00:17:56 He has no criminal history. Um, he has no domestic violence history either. Mr. Patrolin, do you have anything to say? Frattoline appeared in court today where a not guilty plea was entered. On his company's website, he describes Melina as quote, the light of his life. She is the inspiration for, well, everything. At this point, police say there is no clear motive for why he allegedly may have killed her. Jamie Strash in CBC News, Toronto.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Hundreds of residents from the small Newfoundland community of Musgrave Harbour are out of their homes tonight and out of control. Wildfire forced an evacuation yesterday to nearby Gander, a town with a history of opening its arms to people in need. Peter Cowan explains. When it was right in front of me, I knew we'd have to leave. Jack Pinzen watched the fire grow from his home, so he wasn't surprised when officials told him and the 900 people in Musgrave Harbor
Starting point is 00:18:50 they had to leave. What I saw was fire all around me and people panicking, moving, everything they could move. Like many others, he made the drive to Gander about an hour away. People lined up at the arena to register and then headed across the street to the church. In these times it's stressful and straining for people not knowing what's going to happen. That's where Mike Berry and the team at the Salvation Army Citadel have been doing everything they can to ease that stress. The kitchen is busy preparing breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Hundreds have come to take advantage of the meals, all prepared by volunteers. Here today, all these are Gander residents. They're Gander people taking care of their friends and their neighbors. It hasn't just been food. The church was ready with cots for people to sleep in. But as word spread that a nearby town was in need, people in Gander just showed up. People just drove up and said, I space for you know three, four people. They can come and stay in my house.
Starting point is 00:19:51 You never truly got a candle in the window as the candle's always on. This is far from the first time people in the town of Gander have stepped up to help out. Their story of feeding and housing thousands of stranded travelers during 9-11 became the hit musical Come From Away. Welcome to the Rock! The need this time is smaller but no less acute. No amount of hot meals or warm beds can take away the anxiety for people like Coralie MacDonald. I've been really scared and nervous. I was there crying because I was scared that we would lose everything.
Starting point is 00:20:24 The fire they're facing is one of the biggest in Newfoundland and Labrador this year. I was there crying because I was scared that we would lose everything. The fire they're facing is one of the biggest in Newfoundland and Labrador this year. It's 1,800 hectares and water bombers are doing their best to protect the town. Premier John Hogan says those crews have been busy. This is certainly becoming the norm throughout the last couple of summers and even more so this summer. Further east, the Chance Harbor fire is still burning and has already destroyed dozens of cabins, a grim outcome that Pinsent is bracing for, for his home.
Starting point is 00:20:49 I'm expecting possibly to go home to a pile of ashes. But officials say the fire isn't likely to reach town, at least not today, and there's rain coming. Everyone is hoping it'll be enough to keep the fire away and let people go home. Peter Cowen, CBC News, St. John's. Actor Malcolm Jamal Warner, who starred in the 1980s television hit The Cosby Show, has died. Warner drowned in Costa Rica during a family vacation Sunday.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Local authorities say he was pulled into the ocean by a current while swimming. The New Jersey native became a household name for his role as Bill Cosby's son, Theo Huxtable, earning him an Emmy nomination for supporting actor in a comedy in 1986. It's the ugliest shirt I've ever seen. Look at these sleeves. My arm and the same legs worn on my sleeves. This collar's all crazy and the stem side is too big. Maybe you tucked it in a little more. It's tucked into myself. Warner's other acting credits include Malcolm and Eddie, the reboot of The Wonder Years, and The Resident. In addition to acting, Warner was also a poet and musician.
Starting point is 00:21:53 In 2015, he won a Grammy for best traditional R&B performance. Warner was 54 years old. Getting the medical help you need can often be a challenge. Now imagine that effort when you have a condition your doctors never heard of. An estimated one in nine Canadian women could be facing a diagnosis of lipidema, a chronic condition that causes painful fat deposits and swelling. And as Michelle Allen reports, no provinces in Canada offer or cover the required surgery. My swelling is so hard, my calf doesn't move. And it's all like rock solid and it's not muscle.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Helen Papadolia says living with stage three lipedema means getting used to being in pain. Her legs and arms are heavy, swollen and painful from the fat deposits that first appeared years ago. She wears special compression garments all day every day to try and keep the swelling under control. It's starting to limit her mobility. But I'm trying to do the things that I need to to help slow it down. So maybe instead of becoming immobile in five years, maybe it'll take 10, 15 years, unless I get the surgery. Papadolius says her doctor recommends
Starting point is 00:23:14 she gets the fat deposits removed, but the surgery isn't available in Canada. Researchers estimate that lipidema could affect one in nine women or more. It's often mistaken for obesity. There's a lot doctors are still trying to figure out about lipidema. But medical professionals say despite being a common condition, many doctors have never heard of it before.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Conditions that are associated with obesity and lifestyle are generally stigmatized. Dr. Caitlin Sear is a family doctor in Winnipeg who specializes in obesity. People are thought to, well, why can't they just make changes on their own? Also affects women and women are historically at a disadvantage when it comes to health care. Sear says many patients she sees have lipidema, but Canada doesn't have any surgeons who can perform the surgery, nor resources or education available for doctors who want to learn more about it. She's currently using Germany's guidelines
Starting point is 00:24:11 to help guide her practice. Germany just announced that it's going to publicly cover surgery for patients with all stages of lipidema. After a study showed that surgical treatment for lipidema can help improve patient outcomes, Dr. Sears says Canada should consider following. We have evidence that there is strong support that we should be providing caring for patients with lipidema. Papadolia says she's considering going to Greece to pay for surgery privately.
Starting point is 00:24:38 And knowing that if I don't find the money to do surgeries because they're not available in Canada. Then I'm going to become unable to walk. And what is life if you can't walk around and enjoy the beauty of this country? Papadolia says she can't afford to wait for Canadian coverage to change. Michelle Allen, CBC News, Toronto. And we end tonight with a big knockout and a Ukrainian fighter knocking on the door of boxing history. The roar of about 90,000 people inside London's Wembley Stadium on Saturday night.
Starting point is 00:25:29 As Oleksandr Usyk scored a fifth round knockout against Britain's Daniel Dubois. With the win Usyk became the undisputed heavyweight champion for a second time. Prior to Saturday, it was only something Muhammad Ali had accomplished. 38-year-old Usyk is a master in the ring, relying on speed and strategy rather than sheer power. He's considered the best heavyweight fighter of his generation and among the greatest ever. After the match, he thanked his friend, Ivan, the nickname he has for his powerful left hook. It's Ukrainian name. Ivan is like a big guy who lives in a village, in a work and farm. He's a big guy, like a Cossack.
Starting point is 00:26:13 What is your name? My name is Ivan. Along with dominating the heavyweight field, Usyk is also a rare boxer to become undisputed champion in two separate weight classes. He won an Olympic gold medal and his recent success has played out during extreme hardship at home. Usyk has been an outspoken critic of Russia's war with Ukraine. Shortly after the conflict began he joined the Ukrainian military, served
Starting point is 00:26:38 in a battalion and took part in armed patrols. Usyk has involved in several charity and fundraising projects for the war effort and says during his fights his biggest motivation is the one his country is in. This has been your World Tonight from Monday July 21st. Thanks for spending your time with me. I'm Angie Seth. Good night. For more CBC podcasts, go to cbc.ca slash podcasts.

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