You're The Voice | by Efrat Fenigson - Ep. 1: Dr. Simon Goddek - The Price & Gift of Speaking Out

Episode Date: June 14, 2023

My guest today is Dr. Simon Goddek: a biotechnologist, author, researcher, entrepreneur, a Brownstone Institute Fellow and citizen journalist, dedicated to promoting health and self-sufficiency. Fearlessly exposing the fraud of Drosten's PCR protocol paper, he faced cancellation and job loss three times since 2020. Now living in the Brazilian jungle, Dr. Goddek practices permaculture and explores topics such as scientific integrity, vitamin D, gut health, ketogenic diet, and the impact of fear on our immune system. Facing challenges in academia, he established a startup called Sunfluencer.com, focusing on innovative Vitamin D and Omega-3 formulations.  Simon's Substack | Simon's Twitter ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, subscribe and support my work. Thank you! -- SPONSORS -- ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the latest episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): ⁠https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn⁠  -- LINKS -- Efrat's Twitter:⁠ https://twitter.com/efenigson⁠ Efrat's Telegram:⁠ https://t.me/efenigson⁠ Watch/listen on all platforms:⁠ https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice⁠ Support Efrat's work:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin:⁠ https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson

Hello, dear friends and freedom lovers, and welcome to You're the Voice, the podcast that reminds you how important your voice is and the role you play in the world. My name is Efrat and I'm an independent journalist and podcaster with background in tech and marketing. I've transitioned into journalism when the gap left by the mainstream media and censorship was too big to bear. In this series, I interview intriguing humans, putting the spotlight on their stories and views. My guest today is Dr. Simon Goddick, a biotechnologist, author, researcher, entrepreneur, a Brownstone Institute fellow and citizen journalist dedicated to promoting health and self-sufficiency,

Fearlessly exposing the fraud of Drosden's PCR protocol paper, he faced cancellation and job loss three times since 2020. Now living in the Brazilian jungle, Dr. Godek practices permaculture and explores topics such as scientific integrity, vitamin D, gut health, ketogenic diet, and the impact of fear on our immune system. facing challenges in academia he established a startup called sunfluencer.com focusing on innovative vitamin d and omega-3 formulations i hope you enjoy the show please share it forward and make sure your voice is heard mr dr simon goddard i'm so happy to be here with you

because i've been wanting to meet you for a long time you're a legend like this There you are. The stuff you do on Twitter and outside of Twitter is amazing and I've been following you for a long time and I really appreciate your work and I think that more people should know you. If they don't follow you, they should follow you for sure. and what amazes me is just the capacity and the volume of content that you create and you're interested in so many topics and you're digging in many different directions and I told you before when I saw that you bought a book no wonder you're so smart

you buy books and you read books and it's amazing I read books, yeah You like books, huh? I love books So I read I think two or three a week Two or three books a week? Yeah

That's phenomenal I'm jobless, so I'm fine. About anything? Then you're going to tell us about the job thing. About anything. Anything. So whatever comes into my mind. I have books about how to cook pickles,

how to make pickles, you know, how to conserve them, how to make vinegar. I have books about how to make soap. And I have books about, look, there's even a fly. I'm talking about vinegar, and the flies are attacking me.

And I have books about, I just bought one about cancer right now, and I have books about metabolism, and I have books about literally everything about the brain about what travels so whatever whatever is my interest so you give the listeners that are listening to us a few words about you your background your education maybe your profession so I grew up in Germany in the Netherlands specifically Cologne where were you born in Cologne Cologne Germany and I've been to Zeeland in the

Netherlands for a long time of my childhood and then I've studied in the city of Enschede where I did my bachelor's, my master's in water technology and management and then I did my PhD on Iceland and it was environmental engineering and I switched to the Netherlands because they asked okay do you want to come and finish your PhD here? I did it on biotechnology in the Netherlands Wow so yeah it was the same PhD you know it wasn't two PhDs was the same PhD and I literally did it on when aquaponics and bioreactors so it was like some some some combined some combined thing I did my postdoc there as

well I got funding for my postdoc I did multi-loop systems in the Netherlands so usually as a scientist you do what you get funding for so my case it was Ecoponics funding. Ecoponics is like if you if you grow fish and plants in the same system but it's like a very easy system like I was involving I was like introducing bioreactors and stuff like that so I was going a step further and I focused mainly on bioreactors and and decoupled systems during my PhD but the courses I followed during my PhD were in the field of modeling and system dynamics so So I applied what I learned during my PhD course on one side and applying it on a topic

you got funding for. But I didn't only apply it... Which is my favorite way of learning. Yeah, of course. You take what you already know and you then throw it on another. You apply it and I didn't only do this for aquaponics, I did it on the metabolism. I published on, even on climate models, I use climate models in order to show, okay, we go even if the earth gets hotter the food supply will not be pretty much affected so i'm

also i'm also trying to to to work with modeling but i'm getting more and more critical regarding modeling because we've seen what happened during covet and even my publication you are getting critical about the modeling approach okay so i think modeling is not really scientific even i mean if you do why is that i mean tries to predict you're predicting something but then afterwards you have to run a validation you know you have to do model validation in order to say was it accurate or not and i think if you used all these covert models they they have been throwing out you would see okay none of these models was close to accurate so it's junk science um so but isn't modeling being used for years and years like yeah but depends on what you what you um if the input

if the parameters the pyramids are are shit the output is so it depends on what you what you the formula to use of course how you build the model and the input um of the model itself so if you of course say the data the data if you if you then of course say co2 is the main driver for climate change and then you then use it as the main input of course you have this horrible scenarios which are the output yeah um and the same as with echoponic the same as with everything the metabolism so there's so much stuff you can model and the occurrence of of course the the input parameters and the model itself uh defines the output and many scientists just put out a the model and say this is going to happen and they don't validate it afterwards you know they could

like 10 years later they could take the data and say like look this is what happened or like depending on what you do in my case if i if i model an echoponic system i run experiments and then i can say okay well my model wasn't accurate but thanks just like they close their eyes you know yeah let's see the see these uh who was this uh um these these modelers that were um the australian parliament that was questioning there was he was as well so they were and i know in germany there was questioning like 48 models of course of course of course um but for example there were models in germany and the uk um and they've been wrong about sweden you know um with the lockdowns with with what with covet with covet so they predicted for example that

that sweden would have an exponential growth in in death and covet cases they've all been wrong and they've never revoked like their their own statements you know and we continue to listen to it because this is science they're still the experts that's the problem they're still the experts and have been wrong about everything so um in my last publication you're gonna you're gonna go back we're gonna go back to this point about what happened to science exactly but i want you to complete your story about your background and yeah that's what i wanted to say so my background for example um when i when i wrote this this last publication for example about the climate um i even and i even added to this to the um to the application for example you have to be careful

with the modeling etc so i got aware of this you know during my during my expertise right now so um i think after this postdoc of course i mean i worked for um i worked for for a norwegian company, a research institute to be honest, and I also applied for knowledge there. I also got money for aquaponics, and I think it's, aquaponics itself to me is, it's not my field of interest, I think it's quite boring. So I also published papers about vitamin D because I've been, when I started with this system dynamics with, I started with fish, so I tried to understand the fish, and then I applied it to human beings, so I made huge models for our metabolism to understand how

we work and yeah so I applied this and I when when COVID started I took this knowledge and I took it out of my big model and I made a small model for vitamin D just to show how it works and the impact of of course vitamin K2 and magnesium and zinc and vitamin D on the metabolism I wrote a publication on that I now wrote a very big publication. Did you run any tests to validate your models? It wasn't a model okay I just showed the causal loop relationship within our metabolism how vitamin D and k2 impact our immunity so I didn't have to use any model there because I avoid modeling to be honest the best thing was of course we get

empirical data and then just show it that's that's that's how I see science the modeling to me should be avoided or should just be seen as a as a possible indication right but all these modeling studies that are coming on right now are are more or less hilarious. And what are you doing today? Well, pfft. Or maybe you want to start with what happened during COVID. Oh, what happened during COVID?

Actually, not a lot. I started Twitter. I think, of course, I got first canceled for what it was saying about the PCR protocol, which is totally fraud. And it was explaining why it's fraud. It was explaining why a paper cannot pass the preview process within 24 hours and then I got fired for that because you know I was

accusing people of having committed fraud I mean like it now it's now it's the truth back then it was a conspiracy theory I guess then I my Twitter account got cancelled before I posted my own vitamin D peer republication it's my high-ranked journal post this they deleted like they blocked my account for one week my own one peer-reviewed like by three peer reviewers so they someone just posted i because i took a video of dr paul malik saying that peer reviews is a is a hoax and the whole medical journals industry is a is a is i wouldn't say it's a hoax but it's highly biased it's highly biased it's super biased and so someone put a meme underneath my tweet and it was p reviewed yeah

So the thing is, if you are an author of a paper, you suggest the reviewers. You select the people that are going to review your paper. People don't know that. I didn't know that until recently. It doesn't mean that the editor chooses these people, but the likelihood is very high that he just selects them and then they get an invitation. So usually I think it's between three and five people you suggest. you choose your buddies.

You choose your buddies. I mean, it's told it should be unbiased. There's an innate bias in there because you can choose the people that will look at your content. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Of course. It's a big bias. And nobody can tell me they don't take their buddies. Nobody can tell me they take the most critical ones that most likely reject it. Sure, of course.

So this is the problem with the peer-review post. But I mean, the PCR protocol passed the peer-review within less than 24 hours. The whole process from submission

until typesetting it's impossible it takes well my last publication took almost two years so 24 hours it's crazy how do you explain that it's like thousand times faster uh because it was so the the corresponding author christian drosten was on the editorial board of this eu owned journal on the editorial board the conflict of interest big one so um my theory is gonna never peer reviewed and we asked them of evidence and they said like we can't make it public because they can't they have to um they don't want to violate the privacy of the few viewers but the pv reviews are anonymous so they lied lied again so uh they don't want to make it public and um yeah so you got fired so yeah well

i got follow-up funding and they just took another i i so i i wrote an application for follow-up funding and I won it was the chance was one percent and they just said like thank you for the money we take someone that's critical so that was it so it's not like directly fired but it's like violating all the morals you can imagine so if you as a scientist you write in your free time and follow-up funding and then when you get the money this flies you get you get money so you have the money for the university they said I go no thank you for the money but we take someone less critical.

And I asked like, why? And they asked like, oh, we were told. And I'm like, oh, it's a bit crazy. It was weird. And then I, because the application included like 10 parties, and I was asking others. And they were like, no, we can't take you. We can't take you.

I'm like, well, I just like won money. I was writing it myself. I won money for you guys. What's wrong? Oh, no, we can't. We can't. And then, but the Norwegians took me. And I told them I have Twitter.

And they said like, they checked. And I'm like, oh, it's all right. No problem. but just before I started working for them, my Twitter account got banned, totally perma-banned. Like, I got banned like 10 times, and then perma-banned for asking the Bill Gates Foundation why they, coincidentally, were investing in BioNTech

in September 2019, and this was. Great question. It was just a question. Great question. And I added a link, I added a link, literally, to the Gates Foundation website that stated that they funded BioNTech, And I got booted off for misinformation.

Super crazy, like totally booted off. And yeah, so I worked for the Norwegian company. Everything was fine. I worked in Brazil. SPEAKER 1. When did you move to Brazil? SPEAKER 2. I moved to Brazil just before they agreed on taking me, because I felt like nobody's going to take me out, so I go to Brazil.

Because living in the Netherlands without a job is expensive, so I just moved to Brazil to the jungle. Super cheap. I grow my own foods, and hardly any expenses. SPEAKER 1. Do you? Do you grow your own food? SPEAKER 2. Everything. SPEAKER 1. Really?

SPEAKER 2. I grow everything. I'm like literally 100% of grit. What do you have in your garden? Your farm? You have chicken? Chicken, fish, two greenhouses. My neighbors hunt boars, so I have lots of meat. I mean eggs, you know, obviously, and lots of vegetables, fruits.

I think I have 20 banana trees. Really? 50 lemon and orange trees. So I have everything, as you can imagine. So when you go to the supermarket, you just buy something? IPA beer and salt. Amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's the only thing I did to buy. And that's recent? You didn't used to have that until recently? Two years ago. So you also taught yourself everything about permaculture. I read many books about this. So it was easy for you? Yeah, I've tended.

Because I'm growing some vegetables in my garden. It's not easy at all. Oh, I failed. I failed big time in the beginning regarding tomatoes. My tomatoes are now okay. They're growing, but they're not very sweet. But I do have mangled. You know what it is?

Mangled. Yeah, Swiss chard. It's Swiss chard. Amazing. i love it i have big swiss char i have all the colors huge swiss jar anyway i'm trying but it's not easy to grow so i have 250 tomato seeds different tomato seeds and i tried all of them and they were all like not doing well and i learned you know in brazil the climate's different yes it's humid rainy summers so it was necessary to build a greenhouse so they have a greenhouse

that's what it did since i have the greenhouse i yeah i have many many many tomatoes many tomatoes I'm learning you know I mean I did it in Europe before my dad is a big tomato grower my my grandpa's own tomato varieties and yes I love them too and what about avocados can they grow in Brazil yeah I have an avocado tree do you which is like 30 40 meters high so avocado and tomato that's all you need and good bread avocado are this size of melon it's like the big ones not the small ones not like the mini ones so it's like They're really big ones, which are three, four, five kilos. Yeah, they're amazing.

So what then happened is one partner of this project jumped off from Honduras. And they were like, Simon, I was actually supposed to move to Norway. I was like, that's fine, it's fine. Simon, you can, because the project was about permaculture, the floor project about permaculture. And they were like, Simon, if you stay there

and you set up the steamer system there, we will pay you the infrastructure. So I finished building this system in January. And just two or three days after it was finished, they fired me. So they still rejected to pay the money for me, even though we have this deal. I was giving up on Norwegian Social Security or on any other payment for pension payments

because I stayed there because this partner jumped off. But they fired me. I mean, it was a coincidence that this system was ready then in January, because I think two or three weeks before I got my Twitter account back. And it was growing from 35,000 quickly to 100-something thousand within days. How did that happen, in your opinion? I think we were a group of 20 censored people coming back, and everybody was following the censored people.

The scientists and doctors who were censored. But since then, until now, you also grew really fast. I think 2,000 per day currently. I don't know why and I don't know how. In between I got like ShadowBand, it went down to 200, and nobody saw my tweets. Maybe they were just messing with the algorithm and they were trying to optimize it, but now it's back to, I think, 2,000. I don't know.

I'm not following it every day or much, but I can see it approximately. I'm now at about 400,000, which is crazy, which is super crazy. How do you view that channel, Twitter? I mean, for you, I know you use it a lot, but for you, is this like a traffic generator to your website, or how do you see it? No, actually, you know, for me, when I came back, it's just about telling the truth, because I had an income, you know, and it was just about, in the beginning, it was a bit about revenge.

I was calling all these people out who actually led to us being silenced. People said, like, oh, unvaccinated people should be shot, or we should cancel the unvaccinated. So during the last three years, I made screenshots. I have a whole screenshot folder and I was just like calling them out and they then contacted my former employee and they fired me. It's the Research Institute. So they fired me for exceeding freedom of expression. Exceeding freedom of expression. It's got a limit.

I have it in a written form. That's the fun part. That's why I sued them. Exceeded freedom of expression. It's like Simon, you were exceeding freedom of expression on Twitter. What is this bullshit? where do we live i think they took a lawyer who's super young i saw her and she didn't know what she was doing yeah i think she was just being honest yes but they they stated it twice they even found

like tweets of mine they they put it in this letter or like they tweeted this and that and there was a hummus tweet like wow so but i mean like that's what they said and then uh i was like shit now i'm without money so i uh i started my my startup on vitamin d startup very quickly I prepared before because in October I knew it's it's it's it's just it's your own my own thing so I I took several thousand bucks only everything I had literally and I was buying some vitamin D products I made it myself I like this myself and I started in October to talk to this companies because I knew I will get my Twitter come back because even said so back then I was like if I get

back the chance to get fired is very high so i talked to the company like okay how much would this be how much that be i made it i made a uh composition i actually worked on this um before i started and also like three or four years ago i i started working on the on this on this composition of this of this supplement but i never got it started because i mean i had a job as a researcher i wanted to pursue my normal career yeah but but then when i was like hey i might get fired because i know what happened the first time um so i just set up my i had my i had my fake twitter account when i got you know when i got tokyo it was sunfluencer just i wanted to tell people what vitamin d is now we're just like taking this name sunfluencer i just made it a

brand i just got my sunflower.com domain which i had to buy uh say it slower sunfluencer it's like influencer it's like influence just for the sun just sunfluencer and after i got this letter of this mission, I immediately started right away. And after weeks, I had the product, it's like a key, yeah, it's a key, turnkey solution, and they ship it for me, and I made my own website, I got help from friends who knew how to set up a web shop, and I just, no independent, well, I mean, like, I don't even earn close to what I earned. No, of course, it's both Norwegian salary versus like startup, but I was not able to

sell the first batch after several months, I was able now to buy a new product which will arrive, like the same product again, of course, just like a higher volume which will arrive I think in four weeks. So I'm able to be independent and I'm writing for Brownstone. It's amazing. All these people are very open-minded and you can agree to disagree and you can have interesting discussions and we're shooting out interesting articles. Everybody there is writing very interesting articles. How many writers are in Brownstone? Oh, I don't know.

More than that. Probably more than 50 or even more than that. Wow. That's big. Yeah. It's all more or less famous influential scientists who have an high index score, so it's an H. So everybody is talking about what they- What they want. What they want.

Freely. Exactly. And no censorship. There is no exceeding freedom of expression. There's no censorship. There's no censorship at all. That's great. converted if I want how to grow the best mango for example you know and that

would be like they publish it like oh great people want to learn about this I've wrote about vitamin D an article with with Rowan Whittle and it had a reading time of 60 minutes 60 it's actually read it for 60 minutes it's actually it's actually we could have made it a book but it turned out to be an article if you want to listen to it of AI speaking and one-and-a-half hours Wow as all the information in there so we were exceeding somehow something the time of you know the usual article is like three to ten minutes and we just like exceeding it a lot but it's very interesting so everything you need to know about vitamin d i think even the title

um yeah you can i think that that's really it's great to hear all of your background and what you're doing now because i think that can give a lot of people hope to not give up on their voice and what they're doing and all you know just shut yourself up and censor yourself just in order to keep that job or to hold on to something. But it was shocking because I wasn't part of this. I wouldn't get unemployment money, you know, is how I would call it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So when they fired me, I was like, okay, there is no social backup for me. I mean, even though it's Norway, I mean, it didn't apply to me because I voluntarily said I would stay in Brazil to get this project running. If I didn't say so, all the other funding partners would have lost their money.

But they canceled me now. They actually canceled me altogether, which is shocking because what I was saying publicly, they don't like that. um it's still here it's still here got it yay so um that's a bit scary but i think like now being independent to a very high degree um it gives me a lot more freedom and i don't have to self-sensor myself anymore so before that i i would never question um for climate change i know i'd say like it's it's i'm questioning it i'm not not denying it that's man-made but i'm questioning

at big times. So talk about CO2, the impact, I talk about that CO2 is actually the driver of a green planet and going no carbon to me is a joke and doesn't do anything in my opinion. So I'm talking about that, I'm just questioning it. Because I'm a scientist, I have to question everything, literally everything. I have to question myself. I question myself every day. But I should be, as a scientist, really allowed to question things. But what we see nowadays in the field of science, there is something they call is a scientific consensus, which is not a consensus, like something they tell-

It doesn't exist, right? No, it doesn't exist. So they just tell, look, there's a consensus on this, you cannot question this. If you question the vaccine- It's a marketing narrative. It's a marketing narrative. You can't question it, you can't question science.

But I mean, science is questioning. So actually you can't question questioning, which is a paradox. Which is a paradox. It's a paradox. So that's what we're observing right now. And those, for example, who become professors, they have to be uncritical as a critical person you will never make it up the

the letter so they're teaching our children you know they're teaching i mean you have uncritical people uh... who are actually teaching our children to be uncritical

because as soon as you're critical they kick you out that's the indoctrination they want everyone to be submissive and highly controlled being able to be manipulated, they call it hacked as well, they want to hack to us. I think many of these people aren't aware of what they're doing because they are already manipulated. Of course.

They indirectly manipulate others while believing that they are saying this right. Of course. But if they just think about what is science and should we allow to question things, they would say yes, then they would make this turnaround. But then you see they're actually authoritarian because they only allow their opinion and not others. Yes. And this is the big problem.

me as a marketeer see this picture unfolding because they operate our emotions and our feelings in order to have us in a state a constant state of fear or anxiety so that we don't question what we are being told and that's why scientists are not questioning no because they're constantly are afraid or anxious or just don't want to go there they're like and they've resigned or given up on life in a way on their on their profession on their skill of thinking they've given up on that you know just think of this no oil movement right now all right so you have these these kids who are blocking the streets gluing themselves to the walls with of course oil-based glue and they usually have dyed hair oil-based most of them are vegan so they wear plastic clothes

all oil-based they use paint oil-based and they don't even they're not aware of it no they say hey guys use electric cars but the carbon footprint of an electric car is much higher in the lifetime than a diesel car so um i mean if you go if you go with the lie of a carbon footprint to me to me it's ridiculous but i mean like if you look at the narrative it's a rolling lie yeah the lie is just getting bigger and bigger as you go exactly and they don't understand And everything they say is contradictory, but they still go with the narrative. And they hate us for being rational. And they go against us for being rational.

That's why everyone's calling this now an upside-down world, a clown world, a la-la land, whatever you want. A la-la land, nice. I call it la-la land. That's nice. I call it la-la land. I made a speech. I call it clown world. La-la land.

I want to ask you, so when you got fired so many times, or funding being pulled away, or, you know, you have to move to another country to do what you do and all these things that happened to you over the past few years, how did it make you feel? How did you feel? No. Let's talk about your feelings. So the first time being fired because of exposing fraud,

it made me super angry. I was like, wow. So they are protecting the person who committed fraud and they're killing the messenger. But I've never been a person who looks back. So there are people who mourn or who are, like, sad and get depressed. and I'm only looking ahead. So in the beginning, I took it personally,

especially with Twitter. I took it personally because citing my own paper or asking a question is like nothing. So I sued them and I lost because they said like digital house rights. Did you sue them? I sued them. And did you win?

In Brazil, I won. I lost. No, they won. You lost, okay. I was fighting against five lawyers. Okay. So Twitter paid a lot for the lawyers. Wow.

And the judge said they can just, I mean, they said like most likely what you have said was correct, but they can decide whom they want to have on the platform and who not. Because it's a private company. It was in June or July 2022, and three months later, Elon bought it and said, like, okay, we'll get you all back.

So I actually paid quite some money to get back on Twitter. And just like to, I was sure I'm going to win this, because I knew, I was proving everything I said was correct. Were you upset? Were you annoyed? By then, no, because Elon said in April that he wants to buy it. And I just got, I was just like, okay, whatever, you know. I literally was like, whatever. But I was like, hey, the...

So when you get hit, you recover very quickly. Yes, I think so. So the last time I got fired from the Norwegians, I was just laughing. Good. I was laughing. You became even stronger and more resilient from time to time.

I found it funny. My partner, she's a lawyer. She didn't find it funny. I found it funny. The only thing I didn't find funny is that my former boss, that he stole personal... I had Excel files with all calculations which I made for 10 years in my free time

and he stole that and said it's now company property. This would make me super mad. That's why I sued them because like stealing someone's property and say like now it's ours and fire you, not pay you the money actually they owe you.

That's not correct. So I got a bit upset about that but just like not about the fact that I got fired just about the fact that he robbed me. But otherwise I was just going ahead. I was like wow now I'm free I felt very

so at night I was just getting myself some IPAs which you do once a week Indian pale ale beers I love this Indian pale ale it's a beer

ah pale ale okay Indian the Indian one or the American one IPAs yeah I don't mind I mean wine

beers but I love the taste of Indian pale ale okay so I'm treating myself with them once a week okay so that day

it's your treat it's my treat it's like I don't need sugar I don't need anything but I get my two or three beers of IPA once a week during the weekend because I love the taste, I love bitter. So I was getting them, I was just sitting there, I was making myself some good food and I was enjoying the night for being free and then I was like okay am I going to sue them or not and of

course you know you have emails back and forth then they offered me a quite high compensation but it wasn't even the price of the demo system that I was like no. And I met this lawyer in in Norway, a bar bro, and she's like, let's get them. And she's on our side, she's totally on the resistance in Norway, and she was like, Simon, let's get them. I'm like, let's get them. Because I wanted to find out who was behind, who was sending the emails to them.

So this is open now, the case is open? It's open, yes, I started the, because it will be $30,000 just to sue them, because Norwegians are very expensive. So now I started this GoFundMe, it's not GoFundMe, it's the other side, which is. It doesn't matter. It's crowdfunding. It's crowdfunding, and I already collected, I think,

$2,000-something, and maybe I get a bit more, and the rest I have to fund myself somehow. So maybe the people that are seeing this... No, it doesn't matter. I put my car for sale, to be honest. Wow. I put my car, because I can't let this happen, so I put my car for sale,

and when I sell it for $20,000, hopefully, I will have it covered. And in any case, if people want to donate... Yeah, they just have to find it somewhere. maybe look for donation on my own twitter maybe i can repost it but i i don't like getting external money but my my lawyer she was like you should try it at least that people want to help out exactly i'm begging for money it's not it's not like yeah i don't like i don't like that you're putting it out there whoever wants to contribute yeah of course of course or you said like

everything that is too much i will i will i will give to brownstone institute so yeah um but yeah I tried to cover it myself, but of course, I appreciate everybody who wanted to help and who helped until now, because I want to figure out who was actually, what was actually the real cause, like which of my tweets, so it wasn't my idea, it was the Gates Foundation. Imagine it was the Gates Foundation, imagine, because I was told something that they were receiving, and these days I was pretty much behind them, I was countering them, I was like, hey, I tried everybody but Bill Gates, and I was in screenshots. So you want to expose it if it's them? Is that the purpose?

I want to understand. You want the world to know that it's them if it's them? I want to let the world know that doing what people are doing, just like to contact, yeah, it's totally wrong. And I also want to know their internal decision. So this is for you another way to reveal some processes and truth? it's payback time I mean like I want to expose the structures behind this research Institute and why they would silence a scientist who has I got them

two big fundings so actually I got them lots of money and why they silence me I'm actually in this topic I was the only one who understands they have nobody else in the group who knows I mean so they were they were they were was silencing someone who is the only one in the whole Institute to understand what these two projects are doing so I want to understand like who was behind it yeah internally of course and also externally but it sounds like when I talk to you about it and the way you you project everything about it that you don't take it too serious no I don't even think about it I never think about

it I only think about it when my lawyer says I got some money some more evidence on this and that, I'm like, oh yeah, I almost forgot the case, so I'm living in the now, so there's Eckhart Tolle. So that's amazing, so that's what I want to ask you, so do you feel that today you are taking life less seriously than you used to? Yeah, so I read Eckhart Tolle, if you know Eckhart Tolle, I know Eckhart Tolle, so I read his books, and the power of now, yeah, it changed a lot of me, I love his words, he used to be a comedian, he used to be a German comedian who's not funny, and then he turned to a philosopher who was brilliant, imagine, I mean, I remember him as a comedian

I was like oh he's not funny so maybe that's why he turned to philosopher because he's a great philosopher so I read his books and I was like at some point

I was like yeah you can't live in the past you have to I think it was like six years ago when I had a heavy breakup and I was like

hey you have to be with a borderline woman it was like awful oh geez never again but at least it was a happy time I was like

hey I read this book and just after I read this book I was literally healed I was like literally fine I was fine. I was just living in the now. I live in the future. I mean, whatever happens yesterday, whatever happened, like, in the start of the interview, I don't care anymore. I just don't care. It's just like the attitude, do good to others and just don't care what happens to you

because you, I mean, I'm my only reality. I mean, like, you are your only reality. I'm my only reality. If others offend me, it's their reality. I don't get offended easily, you know. So if others offend me, they can do it. I don't care. I mean, like, it's my choice to be offended. It's my choice to be hurt, you know. so I I don't get hurt is I mean of course if there's a person I really love I really like you know if if someone's trying to hurt me of course it hurts I

mean there's I still got feelings but not taking things too personally and think like okay actually people don't want to hurt you they're just they're just acting their own interesting their own thing yeah and they act on their own interest of course huh so I think my former boss didn't want to hurt me personally acted in his interest because probably he was told if you don't fire him we fire you so exactly so I'm just thinking like that and I'm just like I'm quite relaxed very very healthy approach for life otherwise it would be stress otherwise my cortisol levels behind I would probably die of cancer I really hope that people that are listening to this are taking example

because and I'm asking you these things on purpose because I do watch you from the side and you do so much and you have so much power and strength and you're persistent and you're consistent and it it takes something and that's why I'm asking you that because I know a lot of people are struggling to just get by the day to just like think of you know we're going to touch that in a second what's going to come now like what are the agendas that are planned for us what are the plans that are being unfolded in front of our eyes and how do we handle our lives inside this crazy matrix and here you are sitting down being completely solid relaxed not taking things too seriously like playing life liking your life

enjoying your life and that's something that people need to today to be aware of and understand how they do it in their own lives so so i i love it yes my partner always says to me she says like simon how can you fight with people online the whole day she would like she reads it she gets stressed out yeah and you don't stop doing it i'm just like hey it's it's like it's a game right it's a game it's like i'm trying just trying to get the truth out i'm just pursuing the truth and for me it's a positive thing it's like how do you how can you say fighting or like arguing with someone's positive i'm like hey i'm trying to get this to better i'm trying to improve stuff it's it's a it makes me happy i'm not i'm not like insulting someone like yeah you know son

of a bitch what are you doing there no i'm playing the game i'm trying to come up with with evidence and i'm of course i'm calling people out who were like who were like screaming against us so it's something good, because if we let these people off the hook, if it was up to her, we would like just let them do their stuff, because just avoid conflict, but to me, entering some degree of conflict makes this world a better place, because we shouldn't forget, I mean, you're Israeli, you know, we should never forget, and also here, we shouldn't forget now, we shouldn't forget, and we shouldn't forgive, and we should actually call out these people who were heavily been discriminated against us, and say like, oh, we should forcefully

vaccinate everybody why should we forget about this so actually this drives me i mean like i have my archive of 1000 1000 screenshots and i take one every day and just like good morning to everybody but and then i post the screenshot and people like wow this really happened and people forget of course i don't like forgetting i like justice and justice doesn't have like what they say nuremberg too and all this stuff i mean it's like a bit heavy to say but i think we shouldn't forget what happened to us and we should make sure it will not happen again and it will happen again because it's just the beginning of the agenda how you just implied so then let's let's go there so how do you see this unfold and by the way i did use you as an example in my

recent podcast in hebrew so you can't understand no and what i gave you as an example with your story in brazil with going to buy sushi with the six c6 app wow and what do you discover yeah i told israelis about it they were shocked yeah because i gave you as an example but also i gave the commonwealth bank in australia example that they also track your carbon credits on your um on your app yeah and they're they they are not using it yet unlike in brazil which is experimental yes experimental still but in australia they they present it already which is again you won't present it if you're not going to do something with it as a marketeer i'm saying it like you when you build a product you know that if you put something there it's for a purpose so

maybe we should tell what it's about so i open actually my partner she opened her app she's like simon i they're they're not asking me to pay for my co2 i'm like what the heck and i opened my app and was there as well she's like asking what what does it say it says like you complete your credit yes so you said like in in your in the last month you use co2 equivalent to this please compensate it by paying this and that how much money was it i don't know for her it was a lot but I only used my C6 for buying sushi. Only for that. Like if she used it for everything,

then she would be required to pay? Not required. Not yet required. It's not obligatory yet. So I was like, thank you. She's like, please don't post it. Don't put it on Twitter. And I'm like, oh, what did I do?

Because she doesn't like if I, because I was immediately taking C6 and I got the biggest shitstorm and she thought it was her fault. I'm like, thank you. Because she doesn't like that. But I understand her. actually but once I had conflict but I was immediately taking them they got the biggest

hits on Brazil you can imagine and and then they said like oh well more people resisted it more people saw it in Brazil I have many Brazilian followers and they were all like attacking them on the post and they're all like posting their own score like wow and then they said it's just experimental just like to see and like to you know you can deactivate it there and there but only to deactivate it was like was like 10 steps wow and I was like wow it wasn't no so they I actually say buying sushi gets you carbon footprint and you have to pay. It was an organization that they plant trees for this. And when they told you that you've reached your quota,

was it just about food or was it in general, your CO2 quota in general? It's unlimited. It's for everything. You can recompensate it. Yeah, I get that. But did they specify you used your food quota? Yeah. Was it food related?

No, they know what you bought. So in my case, it's food. Of course they know. They said food. It said food? Okay. So they're tracking the category as well. And for others, it said travel.

Travel. Plane, travel, bus, travel, car, travel, petrol. For every category, they tell you how many kilos of CO2 you spent. How beautifully does this correspond with the upcoming CBDC, which is programmable, and then you can say the money will be for food, the money will be for travel, the money will be for whatever, clothing. Of course. and then they'll be able to control exactly how and they'll just switch off if you reach your quota

right they can do this and i mean like if you don't have hard money anymore in your hands you can just like all digital they can they can just say they can make them make it obligatory at the end of the month you have to compensate your co2 or they can they can say they can say oh i already see um this much co2 has been spent on meat you cannot spend any more you cannot buy any more meat because the co2 has been spent so this is possible and the fact that they already have this in their app they're already tracking it for every user they're checking it for all of us and at least in Brazil in the c6 bank which is JP Morgan Bank it's an American bank so the Americans are testing testing on the Brazilian

population this is quite scary and it's not just the Americans it's the big bank it's the big community or small banks it's the big bank because one of the theories that we are hearing now with all the banks the banks collapsing in the u.s. is that they want to consolidate by you know ruining the smaller banks and moving the customers from the smaller banks into the bigger banks so that it's easier for them to control a smaller number of banks when they then turn us into CBDC because if they have to manage 4,000 banks in the US all running CBDC they can get into you know hardship but if they have only

six banks six big big banks that all of the US customers the 300 millions or whatever how many million US citizens three and three and something million I think all concentrated into six banks that's a lot easier to control they have two or three big ones in Brazil so two or three they use and it see six is a small one six is no it's not even i think the second biggest name ah really yeah second biggest i think so it could be wrong i know it's the biggest the bank of brazil i think is the biggest bank of brazil itaewoo and then it must be c6 amazing and then there's new bank and new in brazilian means or in portuguese means naked but it's like maybe it's a very unfortunate name but

i mean like these are the four i'm aware of but i mean like there could be more but these are the four you always see there's nomad as well but they're super small so interesting just like we saw during covet that you have certain countries that get a certain role to be like the guinea pig for certain things now we see brazil australia playing a role in the climate change agenda carbon credit carbon credit so which i i claim that carbon credit is the cousin of social credit score because in the west they will not say social credit because it will scare people off they will say carbon credit that will be it exactly okay because the carbon credits will will be the western social credit and it's like linked to the digital currency and then

we are enslaved totally because they can just now you know um many of our accounts have been frozen of critics i mean like i've been victim of of an account frozen and there are many and in the future that's like free to totally and you cannot take money anymore so even they have like a policy here in great britain that um the bank can reject if you if you or some banks can reject if you want to if you want to withdraw like more than 250 pounds they can say like no so getting real money in your hands like physical money is already getting harder and harder and at some point we can't do it anymore and then actually the state has all the control of you because you

can you can you will not be able to pay with normal money anymore you know with real money so everything is gonna be digital and then you're a slave because they can just turn you off so where watch that what direction are you taking with your money so I invested if you're comfortable and saying yeah of course of course I invested almost everything I have in land I mean about my about my jungle plot with with actually all money I accumulated and big it's almost five hectares but most of it is like protected forest where to drain forest so I'm just using several thousands of square meters so but I have enough I

have enough area to just go about food so more than that I can I can actually feed 20 people with with a small area amazing so um i'm also i have my off-grid system electricity off-grid system i have five or six water sources like coming out of the mountain because i'm living on the top of mountain almost 1600 meters so you're using the hydro i i still have to install a hydro system system for energy for now but i have because i have a elevation so i i think i have an elevation difference i think of 50 or 60 meters and have a stream so this is like power it's it's a yeah it will be lots of electricity yeah but it's i still haven't installed it you can start mining bitcoin guess what yeah here we go i talked about this yesterday we did i

discussed with a friend about yesterday there's a startup doing that yeah i know i i might i might consider doing this this is actually what i think this is great but i mean getting a hydropower system is not the cheapest thing yes and i first have to win against the norwegian x then i have money to do it got it so until now just like solar pv it's many batteries so it can be five days without something if there's so if there's a five-day solar eclipse which is impossible of course it's impossible i could be i'm like off-grid reward electricity food yeah so it's um that's my take um for now i mean like i just want to make sure and if the is the fan if they're really gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna do the real reset if they said today's river set

global coup which might happen on one of my tap and the resistance I I can I can I can I can survive just like Robinson Crusoe on the island and just like much easier for for unlimited time more or less yes and I have another car which runs from ethanol so ethanol is alcohol when it pre-alcohol and I mean did you get that kind of engine in Brazil super normal because of the sugar industry and Because of the sugar industry? They just take the weight of the sugarcane and they create ethanol. Actually, I think 50% of the Brazilian cars run ethanol.

Really? Maybe less. So it's cost-effective? It's cheaper than gasoline. Really? Yeah. And having an ethanol car, I can create ethanol super easy with my... I have so much biomass, I could create more ethanol.

Sorry, but it's a stupid question. Why is it not being done in other places around the world? Speaking of renewable energy. You need lots of biomass for this. It could be like sugarcane, I think corn as well. I think it's maybe not cost-effective here. I don't know. I haven't looked into this yet.

I didn't even question this. But bioethanol exists here as well. But it's like in Brazil. I mean, at the gas station, for 99.9% ethanol, you actually pay, oh, let me think. It's like maybe $0.50 or even less. 50 cents a litre? Maybe it's less, maybe it's more, but I think it's less. It's very cheap, okay.

It's super cheap at least, and having a car that has ethanol, I mean, I could literally, on my plot, get everything I need, including the fuel. I could drive the car, I could do whatever. Not having an electric car, I mean, they could switch it off, but if you don't have an internet connection, I have hydropower, I could just put an electric car, leave it offline, I can also use this. I don't know to what degree it gets tagged or whatever but at least that's my that's my approach because I thought like if I get cancelled more in the

future imagine me buying a flat somewhere in a city and I get totally cancelled I don't have any money and I'm just living there without social income without any social support this would be my nightmare so I was like how what can I do right now to prevent this in the future because we don't know the future yet it's still open I mean like exactly we don't know like we see what their Your plans are, but we don't know how it's going to go. No. But you're well-prepared for the worst-case scenario.

I don't have a weapon arsenal, because that's the only thing missing, but I'm not allowed to have weapons. I need a license. You're well-prepared, I said, not weapons. But my neighbors have weapons, so they have, and they have the license. So I'm well-prepared regarding literally having a permaculture system, having water, having electricity. I envy you.

That's amazing. That's really great. Yeah. What about crypto or Bitcoin? I invested, I think, 60 years ago or something before it went up. I think I took $10,000. I think now it's maybe double. I don't know.

I'm not too much into crypto. For me, it was just to have an investment in case the Bitcoin hits $1 million one day. So I was like, let's get part of a Bitcoin. And I'm still having ETH and Bitcoin. So these are the two I have. And I just told myself I'm buying it now. I'm not going to look for 10 years. I'm not looking at it.

I'm just having it for 10... After 10 years, I will look what it's worth. Or if the Bitcoin hits half a million or a million, I can reconsider it. Bitcoin is now between $27,000 to $30,000. I don't even check because it would make me crazy. I would like to look the whole time. It hit $30,000 not long ago.

It was $60,000 not long ago. And I was like, wow, now I made some... It's down to $30,000. But people say that maybe by next year, it will hit $500,000. It might be. It might not be. so I just said I just have it as a backup yeah so in case you know

everything fails I have maybe ten or twenty or thirty thousand no I'm much will be dollars that I could invest or and use you know but I and I didn't look too much into crypto yet it was just like a backup yeah so always have a backup for the backup for the backup so this is one of mine yeah I wouldn't say so if I were super smart I would have invested every year a specific amount in Bitcoin and now I would profit even more. But I always thought like, you know, I invested once and it was up and it was like, okay, I missed the train. So I never was like doing it again. At least I have a, at least it's a backup plan, you know, in case something

really goes wrong and the Bitcoin might be the currency. But so far I can, I can trade with chicken. I can trade with eggs. I can trade with meat. Which is amazing. Of course I have something to trade with. You have commodities. Exactly. Which is as important. Bitcoin is commodity, and per month I have a hydroponic system, it makes 300 lettuces, so I can trade with lettuce, you know. Exactly. I can go to the neighbor, can you give me

have a board? If you listen to Catherine Austin Fitz, she always says that there are several ways that you can protect your money, and one of them is in commodities. Exactly. Just start storing wheat or vegetables or whatever it is that you're good at and you have, and then you can trade that

when it's needed. It doesn't work with my humidity there, but of course having um conserved food of course i can trade um eggs i have so many eggs per day i can't eat that many eggs so this is right now it's a present for the neighbors yes and the lettuce i'm growing is present for the neighbors and i give it to my chicken the chicken like organic lettuce which you maybe pay three or four or five us dollars in the supermarket in brazil per lettuce it's like what the chicken gets in per day so yeah it's just like i could i could start selling it but i'm living quite far from civilization so just like driving there and back to sell like 20 or 30

legacies doesn't make any sense for me right now but in case the shit is the fan i have neighbors who create other stuff they have other products they have like some have cows you know so some have some sell cheese some sell milk uh are they all local they're all local all local i mean they have they're the only one foreign there oh there's a there's a foreigner from france nice i haven't met him he lives like 30 minutes away so but it's like my next next next neighbor yeah but i know No, he's growing beans. So in some case, you know, I have them all on Telegram and WhatsApp. I avoid WhatsApp, but I talk to him because Brazilians are crazy about WhatsApp, unfortunately.

But at least, you know, if something happens, I would like, hey, do you want to have 10 eggs and 2 lettuces and you give me a kilo of beans? Amazing. Yeah, exactly. Amazing. It's so ready for whatever is going to come. I'm ready. Besides the hydropower system, I'm pretty ready, yes.

You're going to get that, I'm sure. tell me what do you think is the next uh shenanigan the next crisis they're playing for us climate crisis climate you can already tell all these chills especially these covert chills even virologists they always say like oh because of the climate new viruses will appear yeah so you see the shift they're making yeah so they're trying to get us on the climate boat and uh tell us the global warming will i mean what were they saying until 2023 it's irreversible now they they say the same until 2030. So they're always shifting goalposts.

And then how quickly do you think they'll bring in the money thing, the CBDC? They're already starting it. I know they're starting it. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. There are things I try to avoid looking into,

because if I look into the original document, I'm freaking out for at least a bit. So I'm like, I'm tweeting about this. I'm raging. And people are like, ah. But no, I try to just keep it in general. that treats like it's gonna come but I think the first give more serenity to the WHO I think that's the first step with the treaty that now have yes and

and they will do the same with the World Bank most likely and they will they will give up many much power and give it to yes like three years ago would be like you fucking conspiracy theorist stop with it. It's crazy. And now I'm like, I'm going to go, now I talk about world government as well. Three years ago, I would hate myself for that. I know, me too.

WF is controlling literally everything. So there is some, of course, you will not have a government as such with the prime minister, but you have these big organizations like the Gates Foundation, like the WF, you have the WHO, the WEF, I already said this, the World Economic,

what's it called? The World Monetary Fund, WMF. World Monetary. No, IMF. International Monetary Fund. Here we go. The ones on top of the IMF is BIS. Exactly, exactly. They're the big brothers of big brothers. And I think that they are the ones pulling the strings. In fact, the owners of the BIS, which is private as we know, the big families are the ones pulling the strings. And then it like trickles down. It trickles down. But they're all more or less involved. yes so and these are the people people involved there they're actually they will be like the the

you know the the human the master race and we will like and so they're taking us into a technocratic world technocratic world yes into a transhuman fourth industrial revolution they talk about it publicly and openly so it's nothing they're hiding they're not hiding anymore or anything. They even call us the useless people. They call us hackable, useless, yes, useless.

Catherine Austin Fitz says useless eaters. They treat us like useless eaters. Oh, this word has been used, I think, 80 years ago, wasn't it? Yes, in the Holocaust.

Exactly, yeah. It's really, really devastating to hear it, but she says that, who was it that asked her about the depopulation agenda? It was Kim Iverson,

which is a very mainstream quite mainstream she's amazing and what she asked her really good questions it's a must-see interview between kim iverson and katherine and katherine told her that the way these people the bankers the big bankers treat the whole agenda of depopulation is just in a pure mathematical form they say okay we're financial people our goal is to um increase the efficiency of the economy in our countries we want to either increase GDP and productivity of the public in our country or reduce populations so that we can create less waste and less problems and then we still improve the situation of the

country so it's a mathematical formula you either take this down or take this up population down productivity up you get the winning result that you want so they don't even think about it as if you know there are human beings involved in their soul and their lives they don't even care about that they look at it from a pure mathematical financial perspective we are numbers again and we are numbers again yeah and that's really difficult to comprehend but at the same time it makes so much sense and through that explanation I could connect to the depopulation agenda because it was very hard for me to accept that but when she

explained it that way you know you can't run away from it anymore it sounds very logical so anyway so my last question to you is do you want to share anything about your work your future work is there anything you want to take this stage and say or maybe maybe even i don't know warn people about or make them aware of something that you think is important we didn't even touch engineering and all that but whatever but i think the thing is i'm not working on um so actually whatever comes up i'm addressing so especially in the field of science where i have really knowledge real knowledge you know i don't go into the finance world usually because i mean like that many people have more experience than me so i let these people talk yeah um so of course

I love to talk about vitamin D, of course. I mean, if you're interested in this, you just go to sunflints.com and I have a blog. It's more important than the product itself. It doesn't know the product. Read the blog and you'll see what you need. Can you be invited for lectures and events? Yeah, of course, of course, of course.

It is possible. I do it online and if it's in person, like here in this case, it works as well. So there I have a blog which is educating people about the importance. I'm not even always saying it's important. I'm explaining why it's important and so people understand I mean in a sense the reason I mean the root cause of the problems and they can address it it

doesn't matter if they said buy my product if they go to Amazon or don't use Amazon but wherever and they they get they like yes I want to educate the people so they can take the health decision exactly and do this and with vitamin D I do this a permaculture on German Warfare's podcast I've been many times of talking about permaculture which is interesting in this one German warfare on tnt radio i like he has this radio show and he has his own podcast so he invites me again and again because you think it's interesting it's it's it's necessary that people start growing their own food and don't buy the processed food so i like educating people about this and of course

then it's like the i'm very deep into the wf and the agenda 2030 um because as a scientist i always used it i always used the un 2030 to justify look at this and that and i didn't know back then i was like I didn't know what I was doing and now it's really good right the sustainable development goal super it's amazing but I mean like the the message behind it the secondary message behind it it's kind of it's misanthropic yes so so I of course it's a little it's a learning curve I also entered and and I tried to share what I think is necessary to know and of course I'm I'm kind of this revenge person once once a day that I just like call up people who have been

getting us into this and I want these people who were who were pushing this agenda to be called justice Drosten Gates Tedros Tedros I mean he's accused of aided suicide genocide in Ethiopia and he he was made by the CCP like the president of the WHL which really makes him like one of the most powerful people in the world because he can declare a pandemic whenever he wants and he's He's highly corrupt. So I just want to make people aware of this. And where is best to follow you?

To follow me? So I'm on Telegram. I'm not that active anymore, but I still post there regularly. You've got a Telegram channel. Yes. And I have Twitter. I have Twitter, just like Dr. Samangotic, just like you spoke. There are many fake accounts.

On Twitter, I think there are 50 fake accounts of me. So you've got about 400,000 followers. So you need to know the right account and not follow the fake ones. I'm always on the first, Godek et al, E-T-A-L. And on Twitter, it's just Godek, just my surname. On Telegram, sorry, Telegram, just Godek, my surname. And there are also many fakes, just like Godek,

if you use it any. Do you have a blog? I have Substack. I think it was drsimon.substack.com, but I think I changed it because Elon Musk was like shadow banning the Substack link. I think I now registered the domain drgodek.com. I think it's drgodek.com or drsimon.com.

I think it's drgolak.com. Then you just get on my Substack where I regularly post articles which are more in-depth than Twitter threads. I think you are a very courageous and very inspiring human being. Thank you. Thank you so much for this conversation.

Trying to be. Thank you. It was really fun. Thanks for watching!