You're The Voice | by Efrat Fenigson - Ep. 23: Dr. Ahmad Malik - Being Comfortable in the Uncomfortable

Episode Date: March 20, 2024

🎙️You're The Voice - Episode 23 - Dr. Ahmad Malik - Being Comfortable in the Uncomfortable My guest today is Dr. Ahmad Malik, an Orthopaedic Surgeon turned podcaster in light of censorship, silencing & sanctions he underwent in the past few years. This episode is a conversation between two friends about the meaning and essence of life, more than it is a ‘podcast episode’. And yet, in this emotional, yet fun episode, Ahmad shares his personal story and his awakening journey. We deeply explore the phenomena of cancel culture and silencing during Covid, especially amongst the medical profession. Ahmad bravely shares the consequences he faced for speaking out, including suspension and losing his job. We also touched on podcasting, building physical and mental resilience, bitcoin, mindset of change adaptation and uncertainty acceptance, finding strength in the face of fear and embracing failure. I think you’ll feel that theme of this episode is the power of love and connection, choosing humanity and unity over division. (This episode was recorded 4 months ago yet still very relevant). -- LINKS – Ahmad’s Twitter:⁠ ⁠https://twitter.com/DocAhmadMalik Ahmad’s Substack - please subscribe:⁠ ⁠⁠https://docmalik.substack.com/⁠ Ahmad’s Website:⁠ ⁠⁠https://docmalik.com/⁠ Efrat's Twitter:⁠ https://twitter.com/efenigson⁠ Efrat's Telegram:⁠ https://t.me/efenigson⁠ Watch/listen on all platforms:⁠ https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice⁠ Support Efrat's work:⁠ ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin:⁠ https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson⁠ ►► Join me at Bitcoin Nashville with 10% off tickets (code BTCIL): https://glnk.io/lr8q9/btcil  ►► Join me at Mallorca Blockchain Days with 50 euro off tickets (code efrat): https://bit.ly/43ygh4I  ►► Get your TREZOR wallet or accessories online: https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn  -- CHAPTERS -- 00:00 - Introduction & Personal Story 07:30 - Ahmad Realizing How Unhealthy He Was 12:00 - Flaws in the Medical System 16:20 - Questioning the EU and Brexit 19:00 - Censorship, Cancel Culture, Sanctions During Covid 27:00 - Speaking Out & Getting Suspended 40:00 - Politics & Why Ahmad Started the Podcast 49:00 - Favorite Episodes & The Challenges of Podcasting 57:00 - Adapting to Change, Waking Up 01:10:00 - Avoid Debt & Invest in Bitcoin 01:16:00 - Mental & Physical Resilience, Failure, Fear, Love 01:22:00 - Choosing Humanity and Unity 01:25:00 - Breaking Free from Tribalism 01:29:00 - Health & Well-being, inc. Sleep, Stress, Exercise & Diet  01:40:00 - Meditation & Wrap Up

dr ahmad malik my brother from a different mother from a different lifetime um thank you so much for being here with me really i appreciate it i love you with all my you know my shenanigans about how we're gonna do it we're gonna talk about what we're not gonna talk about you're you're just an amazing person so first of all thank you and i love you and i love you so much i forgive you i forgive you for calling me ahmad malik ahmad malik but everyone always says ahmad malik ahmad malik it's very it's very hard for me to say say it again ahmad malik malik yeah but everyone in the middle east and and america they all go and that that creates like the spit in your mouth and then you have to swallow this yeah and then malik and it's like no

now folks that's that's not i'll just call you brother okay yeah i you know i've actually got theory i think in a past life you know i i never used to believe in reincarnation growing up as a kid you're not meant to believe in reincarnation i think anything is possible maybe we were like brother and sister at some point like way back like in the pharaoh era egyptians you know i wouldn't be surprised because from the first moment we met there was this click connection straight away and i get that with some people not with everyone so i think that's very very possible and if we weren't brother and sister we were definitely good friends i just want to say to people who don't know you for some strange reason that Dr. Malik is a doctor and orthopedic

surgeon and he's passionate about free speech and medical ethics and I believe that you are one of the biggest advocates for healthier version of oneself right you are the biggest advocates for building a healthy lifestyle, for living your life in the healthiest way you can. And I think that you believe that this is the ultimate expression of freedom. And I would love to hear why as we discuss things today. But thank you for being who you are, because there are not many doctors that I know in the past few years that have stood up for freedom the way you have and just being with you speaking to you knowing that you're my brother that you're my friend really moves me and excites me and really helps me believe that this humanity does have some hope

because people like you exist wow that's that's a big that's a big introduction and and i am the imposter syndrome in me is coming out now from my heart no but that's from my heart because i i know every i mean i do need a catch-up and i do need an update from you on where you're at right now but i know that everything you're doing and what you stand for doesn't come without a price and you are paying a price and and you're doing it because you really care so much about people it's not just about your convenience and about your family and about your money and all that stuff it's about you caring about humanity and so this is way bigger than you it's way bigger than me it's bigger than all of us and and that's what i want to start with um but i first just

introduce yourself maybe and give us some of your background yeah well listen thank you so much for lovely introduction and i can tell you the feelings are reciprocated and um you know i talk about you so much and um i don't think you met my wife i think my wife is always like who is this f-rat thing who is this person who is this person you mention all the time and the kids know you and i can't wait for you to come back and and meet the whole family it'll be cool um anyway so who who am i good question let's start with my dad i think i'm a product of my dad and mom clearly but my dad was a big influence on me so I'm a kid of parents from India and Pakistan I was born in Scotland as a Muslim and working class background and I think all these things are relevant because

you know it shapes you who you are and life was tough as a kid growing up in the 80s in Scotland And, you know, it was, you know, I felt very much different, but, you know, but, you know, you know, different from the kids around me. I was like the only brown kid with a funny name. Everyone was Jimmy, Andrew, David, John, and I'm Ahmad Malik. And so, you know, it's all a bit different. And then, and then as a kid, my parents' business started to do well. We had a shoe shop and they got a residential home. And when that happened, we moved to an affluent part of the city, Glasgow.

Now I was still different because all the kids spoke with a posh accent and their parents were professors and lecturers and accountants and doctors. And, you know, my parents were working class. And while they were doing better, we were still not rich and affluent. And we had all the second hand clothes and we didn't go on fancy holidays. I still felt very much different from the crowd. I had this interest in medicine I think it's because

I used to watch ER for the younger people listening they probably don't know what ER is but I fell in love with ER I thought it was so cool

I loved biology and science and contrary to what most people think you know most Jewish and Indian parents are like

become a doctor become a doctor you know my dad was actually like become a businessman work for yourself be independent don't work for other people

my dad actually wanted me to be a businessman and independent and that's you know really played on my head quite a lot over the years talking about not having a boss not having someone that you have to answer to and you talk about that a lot be free be independent and I love that and my dad also had this incredible work ethic he was so hard working you know day and night he never took any benefits from the state he worked hard and you know for a

who wasn't formally educated who came to the country with just five pounds you know he lifted himself up and really worked hard and did incredible and he was intelligent but not educated and there's a difference between the two and nowadays I would say going through the education system actually leaves you less intelligent so you know things have definitely changed now the education systems indoctrination not education anyway so I became a doctor how many years have Have you spent in the education system, by the way? Oh, God, a long time. But, you know, I graduated in 1998 and I finished my consultant exam in 2010.

Quite a long time. So I've been a doctor now for 25 years. God, where has that time gone? Fast forward, you know, I became a surgeon against all odds. The competition is crazy. 2016, 17, my dad's been diagnosed with cancer. And here I am working like a crazy person. I'm overweight.

I'm now just been diagnosed with type two diabetes. I'm hypertensive, got fatty liver. I look like shit. I feel like shit. I feel like I'm 70. One day I came home, you know, the house you visited. My dad was sitting on the sofa at 10 o'clock at night and I had a plate of food. My wife's asleep.

The kids are asleep. And my dad goes, what are you doing, son? And I said, what do you mean? And he goes, you look like shit. You're a fat bastard. You know, you're just going to kill yourself like this. 10 o'clock at night eating what are you doing you wake up in the morning at six before the family's awake you come home after they've gone to bed well what are you doing i am a dying man

listen to me this is not a way to live and wow that was a very powerful wake-up call i couldn't sleep that night i just was thinking about what he was saying and he and one of the other things he said was why are you doing this were you insulted no because i'm from glasgow and glasgow people talk like this we're very blunt we shoot straight okay right so it's just the way we are and um you know we got thick skin you know we don't we don't like oh you hurt my feelings i'm gonna go cry now and we don't do that i'm offended you looked at me at the wrong way and call me by my wrong pronouns no we don't do that stuff so basically um he also said why are you doing this do you want to get rich you want to be famous you want to become a big man you know

he goes what is important in life and he just left the question hanging he didn't tell me what was important he just said to me what is important so I'm lying there in bed thinking my family's important i love my family i want to be around for my family i don't want to i don't want to die of cancer leave them i don't want to get i don't want to get sick my health is important i don't want to be a sick dad you know like with a young family because i'm not a young dad you know i'm 48 and i've got kids under the age of 10 it took me a while to find the right women second time around and um yeah i quit the nhs i i decided forget the big house the dreams of the big cars and the big house forget it you know and you've seen it i live in a small cottage

i thought i'm gonna i'm gonna get rid of the nanny i'm gonna be there for my kids i work three days a week my wife works three days a week we will just spend less stay out of debt and i will be there for my my children and i will get fit and healthy so i and my wife started going on a journey of health we start we lost weight we started to exercise we started to go to sleep on time i used to go to bed at one two in the morning and we started to change our diet now yeah now when do you go to bed now 10 half 10 obviously most nights and i wake up at six and i looked at what it takes to be healthy and suddenly my weight from went from 86 kilograms to 72 I'm lean my waist size has gone from 34 to 28 I've got hardly any belly fat I think not long from now I might even have a

six-pack I feel youthful energetic um my wife looks hot you're a hunk yes no but my wife my wife looks like incredible incredible and I'm there for my kids and I'm happy and relaxed and you know what's really shocked me Efra is like all the things that I've realized what it takes to be healthy was not taught to me in med school do you not find that shocking and then it is shocking right so if i could figure out with my wife what it takes to be healthy and it's simple simple measures lifestyle choices you know the government could be telling this the teachers could be teaching this you know i'm teaching my four-year-old this isn't like oh you know you have to wait till you go to university to teach you this stuff i'm teaching my four-year-old

kid about this and i thought about this if you taught the children and you taught the society what i now know you would not have the obesity epidemic the cancer epidemic the dementia the ill health the sick society when you go out on the beach instead of seeing nice lean sexy men and women like you would in the 60s and 70s we're all beach whales it's like a whale classification you know your minky whale your gray whale your humpback whale i mean the people are just massive now you know like we're quite an ugly disgusting species you know the last thing i would ever want to do is go to nudist beach my god you know because we've lost the plot we're all sick and unhealthy and why would the government do that then you know why would our education and health

public health people allow society to become so sick and unhealthy and the only thing i can think of is that it profits it profits big food big agra big pharma and the medicine industrial complex that's who it profits it also profits the um politicians because now you have a population that is sick often dumbed down as a result compliant easy to abuse and manipulate so instead of these politicians thinking you know what the healthier the public and the society and the population the stronger and healthier the country they're quite happy for us to be all sick and unhealthy which means these politicians and don't serve us sorry to interrupt you, just to add on top of that

this population is also relying on you as a government to provide them with the healthcare that they need with the insurance that they need with the medications that they need with some allowances for it with, you know, they will take care of me

kind of approach you nailed it honestly they want you to be dependent when did you have that understanding Yeah, exactly. When was it that you have that deep understanding of how this system works and you being a part of it? And how did it make you feel? um i think i was getting there um just before covid you know i'd left the nhs this public

health system which was overbearing central diktat central policies national policies dictating to me how i should treat a patient individually and really shackling and controlling and overbearing and very abusive it rewards laziness and inefficiency and being mediocre and it punishes you if you're hard-working and innovative so it's not a nice system it's a centralized horrible system okay and it's all fluffed up like oh it's the nation's you know prize asset look how wonderful the nhs is it's not free not wonderful it's the national harm service not the national health service it's a way of just having people on pills and drugs and tablets you know it doesn't it doesn't reverse your chronic illnesses and stuff so i started

getting disillusioned and as i got healthier and the more i learned and the more i researched the more i was like holy macaroni i've been brainwashed as have most of the population you know even now the food pyramid like you know they they talk about how low fat and carbs are good and red meat is bad and kills cancer and destroys the planet i mean it's all bullshit it's all bullshit so and and this is the thing we live in an inverted world where everything is back to front upside down black and white you know actually red meat is the best thing you can have and doesn't kill the planet is wonderful for the planet is wonderful for animals and if it's you know regenerative farming and pasture raised and actually carbs are really bad for you you

should avoid carbs as much as possible so this is what i mean like it's just all nonsense um but then i went through brexit and that was when the uk government decided to hold a referendum to see whether we wanted to leave the eu or not i'm clearly very different from my tribe because i thought it was a bad thing to stay in the eu because i've realized over the years i've become more and more libertarian i've looked into the american founding fathers and i've come to the conclusion first do no harm and to take no shit and leave me the frack alone you know just let me get on with my life and don't interfere with it and government wants to interfere and government wants to take money off you it wants to control you it wants to govern you it's in the name

government. I don't want to be governed. So it's hard enough holding our politicians to account in Westminster or in your Knesset. I mean, do they listen to you? Do they listen to me? Of course they don't. So how hard do you think it's going to be for us to control an unelected bureaucratic bunch of idiots in Brussels? They don't give a damn. They're going to put the priorities of their brussels before any individual state so i was like no i'm not voting for this the problem was 98 of my doctor colleagues or 99 thought i was a racist for thinking along those lines they're all eu wave flagging fluffy oh it's lovely it's a nice lovely softy organization we love the eu and they i literally got accused of being a racist and a white supremacist

me i mean that's how ridiculous it was experiencing the the the tactic of defaming you personally when you weren't in line with with the company's uh line exactly or the profession you know like think of the profession my doctor profession as being my tribe yeah so all the doctors that used to refer me patients stopped referring me patients so suddenly i i lost 50 percent of my income and i'm full-time private so the other patients were coming to see me because of word of mouth i've treated family or friends but the ones that were being referred by their gps and their doctors they stopped they stopped coming to me and i would even have some patients this is very this is parallel to political sanctions they don't agree with your uh yeah

viewpoint so they stop referring you this on a totally professional level they will stop referring business to you it's incredible huh how we do exactly how we behave exactly how our governments behave yes okay so i what did you do then so it's like i accept that you're a fantastic foot and ankle surgeon but i don't like your political views so i'll send you to someone who's not as good as you what does that tell you yeah about their your and you know integrity and morals and ethics. And that was a big wake up call for me. I was like, wow, doctors, wow. They don't really care much about their patients. Holy moly. You got to the conclusion that they don't really care about their patients so much because of that behavior. And you are considered to be one of the

best in your field, right? Yeah. But I'm not going to be rude about other people, but people not as good as me they'd be happy to send them to them rather than send them to me because of my views but i already had decided that a lot of doctors were in trouble because we weren't we were too compliant the government and the hospitals and managers were taking more and more power away from us telling us we can we have to spend less time of our patients that we have to do follow these policies and follow these guidelines and there was never any pushback and I think it's because of the way the doctors have been selected and indoctrinated they follow orders and also when most of the doctors are funded by one employer and there isn't much option for anyone else to

pay you you don't want to upset your employer you'll do what your employer says to you and so I was already getting an inkling that there's a problem a deep problem with my profession and their ability to to stand out from the crowd and question there was too much conformity and I mean don't get me wrong I don't want everyone disagreeing on everything I mean that's just chaos but having everyone agreeing on everything is also very unnatural and strange and that became very apparent when the pandemic happened all the doctors were quiet and followed the government narrative there was no dissent it was eerily quiet now in the uk there's 280 000 registered doctors i mean say i think practicing it must be 150 or 180 000 there was no one speaking out

that's very strange and you have to ask why yeah did all of them all of them agree with the government line i think most of them did which is worrying but a lot of them didn't but were too scared to say anything because of censorship because of cancel culture so over the decades we've gone from political correctness to hate speech cancel culture self-censorship and now where we are today it's very very dangerous the slope the slippery slope that we've descended on because now you simply are not able to say what you think and if you challenge an institution an authority or a militant minority group of people or the government the state if you challenge them you will suffer the consequences you will have a pile on you'll be attacked

ad hominem you'll be like you're you'll be you'll have jobs and contracts taken away from you you'll have speaking engagements taken away from you you'll be taken off facebook or google or youtube your account suspended or terminated and you're made a nobody you are cancelled and we live in a digital world and when you're canceled it's pretty serious i mean it could affect it could be your livelihood it could be your ability to feed your children and keep a roof over your heads so we're talking about serious things and that's literally and let me take you one step further if i may yeah yeah in certain countries right now you are um you're going to be arrested for saying the wrong thing like in Ireland for example even for thinking the wrong thing or holding on your

device content that is dissident even without sending it to anyone you just hold it you hold the wrong thought you can be arrested and same in Israel right now they're under the guise of the war There are new legislation that is being put in place to arrest people. And this is two parallel streams. One, the police is doing it already on the grounds of incitement, but also for spreading conspiracy theory. And then the parliament is trying to put an emergency bill in place for arresting people who hurt the national morale.

Right. And may may assist the enemy in this time for raising questions, for speaking out against the institution or, you know, questioning why the institution is behaving the way it is. I'm on the soft side of it, but I'm there as well. And so many people are at risk in certain countries. It's becoming super real. And we're talking about Western countries, democratic, so-called democratic countries. right it's all it's all one big bullshit and the biggest risk if i may just add one last thing is that this is fully normalized now in society people are accepting that this is okay to do to one another and to other citizens and they do not get that today they allow it to happen to me or to you or to other people under any excuse or any obligation and then tomorrow it comes to them they just don't get it i know i find that really um what you've just told me

terrifying i mean i knew about the online safety bill and i and i knew there were like something similar in america and australia new zealand they've passed it here in the uk i don't know about ireland and israel this is orwellian this idea that you can't think certain thoughts and you can't voice them. You know, it's a fundamental right as a human being. I am free. You, Efra, are free. I am free to think what I want without punishment. I'm free to speak and say what I want without punishment. I'm free to travel where I want without restriction and punishment. I'm free to work and do what I want without restriction or punishment. As far as I'm concerned, only if I'm a danger to others causing harm to others then then I should be you know restricted in some way

the problem as well is that we've now taken harm which is a physical thing to you harmed my feelings you hurt my and it might be imaginary and the other problem is due process has gone out the window so whereas before you had to prove without any shadow of a doubt that someone did something wrong now you just need to throw an allegation you just need to throw a comment online and that in itself will inflict the punishment i can i give a personal example or would that not be right go for it so when i started speaking out i spoke out against the mandates i apologize again for the umpteenth time i didn't say anything during the lockdowns i'll be honest with you I was suffering from depression.

I've just been recovering from my political activities with the Brexit party and the abuse that I'd received. Financially, I was really struggling to pick up my business. And then I'm now unemployed, locked out of my hospitals, stuck at home in my garden with three young kids. And I wasn't earning for six months. It was incredibly stressful. And I knew they were going to roll in things

like the vaccines and everything. And my wife was like totally up for it. and I was totally not for it. So suddenly my wife and I are getting further and further apart. It was a horrible time in my life. And when you're fighting, you know, these demons and everything, you can't be fighting outside. You can't wage war on two fronts.

So, you know, when I got my shit together and mentally got more robust and resilient, I started speaking out against the mandates. I went on TV. We overturned that here in the UK. And then last December, I spoke about the vaccines and the danger these mRNA jabs were doing. And I asked for investigation.

And that's when my bullying and harassment started. I got threatened with my practicing privileges being revoked and taken away from me. And then I just had a campaign. Oh, we got an email from someone saying, you're an anti-vaxxer, you're conspiratorial, you're blah, blah, your social media policy is going against our guidelines

and blah, blah, blah, guidelines. Your practice, your scope of practice is, you know, it's only fit an ankle. don't talk about covid you know i'm a doctor first and foremost you know my duty is patient safety so anyway what happened was it all culminated six weeks ago when i got suspended i got suspended no pay because i'm self-employed my ability to work in this this private hospital has been taken away 10 years i've been working tell me what they said what what what happened what did they say so the funny thing is we don't know we are still

trying to figure that out but essentially it's my social media activity and that they're they're not happy with okay they're just not happy with and they've given some bullshit excuse and i've i've raised a crowd justice legal fund and i over in a week just over a week i raised 25 000 pounds so i'm going to fight this i'm going to challenge this um you know it's my main place of work you know and 80 of my income has just gone overnight and that's because i'm speaking out against vaccines the pandemic i'm talking about this whole bs that's climate scam 15 minute city nonsense net zero nonsense the whole trend transgender ideology and indoctrination of our children nonsense you know i'm speaking up for medical ethics informed consent bodily autonomy

you know i'm not saying anything wrong there is no patient involved in my case there's no patient complaint involved in my case there are activists who have emailed and written to the private hospitals and the hospital managers are using this as evidence and they're clearly malicious and targeted campaigns against me and yes instead of saying to me i'm a malik come into our office and let's sit down and blah blah what's going on here you know it's boom decapitation we're going suspend you and that's your punishment and and i think you get the verdict straight away you get the verdict straight away and we're asking for explanations my lawyers are in letters to them and they're dragging their feet you know they're dragging their feet we ask for subject access

requests three months now they said that it's going to take because there's so much information i mean what the heck three months to give me the information so i know what they've been talking about me anyway the fact is it's this is what happens when you put your head above the parapet and a lot of the complaints that have been made about me to the are also from other doctors from my tribe and i think it takes a special kind of human being to stand outside of their tribe whether it's their religion their ethnicity their country their profession whatever to stand out of their tribe and say you know what we're not doing the right thing here i don't think we're i think we're on the wrong path, folks. The problem is when you stand outside of your tribe, more often

than not, you get vilified, you get attacked, because one, the majority of them are so brainwashed they don't see how wrong they are, or two, they are upset that you're exposing how weak and pathetic and wrong they are, because you are a shining beacon of light and truth. So I've exposed the bullshit of the medical ethics and how no one who had the experimental jab none of you israelis no one in the world had proper informed consent you know i spoke to this guy josh gusowitz i can't pronounce his name he's fantastic yes he talked about the bait and switch i've spoken to jessica rose what could do you know so many of you wonderful people and you know it's all bs it's all bs no one got informed consent and instead of saying well done ahmed malik for exposing this and

for spending speaking up for medical ethics and thank you so much for being courageous the majority of doctors are like oh god damn it now i'm not going to say all because there is a hardcore small group of doctors who are cheering me on or supporting me have paid sub stacks and i love them two bits i'm going to name some like dr liz evans dr claire craig dr jonathan engler um james royale there's a guy called karam you know there are a lot of good doctors out there who are wishing me all the best yes this is the world we live in now um effort censorship self-censorship so there's a lot of good people who want to say something but are terrified to say anything because they know you're going to come for them i want to add one more thing to

what you said you said that there are maybe two reasons for why people will vilify you like this or go against you in that way. And they're both related to the fact that they're wrong. And I want to take even one step further and say, maybe on some things we are wrong or we're not always accurate. It's possible and they may be right. But just the sheer fact that you dare to question something or to play around with it or to put the spotlight on something

and investigate and go further and go deeper that already bugs them you shouldn't be doing that you should just be quoting the narrative and if you're not quoting the narrative anything else doesn't fly so we've become so close to any other way of thinking or contemplating or imagining or debating brainstorming we can't do that anymore we have one way to think someone is dictating to us the right way to think and if you're not on that path you're vilified so it's not even that they're wrong they could be right we could we can be wrong but we can at least talk about things we can at least raise them up and at least we have the humility to come out and say if we're wrong about something that we were wrong and fix ourselves and learn something new 100

100 i'm the first one to say i make a mistake i'm the first one to say i you know i made a boo-boo but you know who on the other side has ever said that what politician or big pharma executive has said do you know what we made a mistake sorry i don't hear that and the other thing is isn't it better no isn't it better to speak up and say hey are we doing something wrong and actually people look into it and go no no we're not doing anything wrong or stay quiet and know we're we're wrong and we've done the wrong thing I think it's better to do the former at least you know yes just look into things at least ask questions have that humility and the older I get the more uncertain I I'm about things, the less I know, you know, I find out one piece of information, a nugget from

my guests, and all it does is open up a hundred new questions. So I realized that what I thought I didn't know is actually much bigger than before. I just don't know anything. And I come to the table always now with an open mind. So whereas when I was 20 and, you know, just at med school thinking i know everything now i'm like i know nothing i'm just i'm keeping an open mind anything's possible you know just anything possible and when and and people forget that when we question and we realize that something was wrong whether it was malicious harmful or you know intended or even you know not intended and without any any purpose and it was just wrong That is the only path to learn. That is the only path to ensure that we don't make the same mistake again or that we learn from it and put in place some measures, some policies, some procedures to guard us, to keep us safe from falling into the same bait again.

And we're inside that vicious circle that because we censor everything, because we don't allow free speech, we are falling into worse and worse situations all the time. 100%. And I don't know, is this just a cycle of humanity? Nothing ever changes. The only thing that changes are the actors and the stage. The story just keeps repeating itself. The empires grow with innovation and adventure and risk-taking, and then you get a period of stability,

but then that descends into complacency and decadence, and then you have the fall. And with the fall, there's desperation amongst the leaders to hold on to their power, but it's just literally like sand falling between their fingers. And as they do that, you then descend into chaos and barbarism, and then the cycle repeats itself you know it seems like we're just doomed to this cycle yeah you're right you're 100 right have you watched the movie the shock doctrine or read

the book by naomi klein no the shock doctrine okay you must watch that or read the book but it's a heavy book the the movie is an hour and a half basically showing how the same playbook repeats itself in different countries around the world to bring about war, which will bring about chaos, which will bring about bad economy or economic decisions, which will bring about bad inflations and other processes that will basically ruin people's lives and will only strengthen harsher types of governance. And basically the US is behind a lot of that. So it's a must movie to watch or a book to read, and I will give you the link for it. It's not new, but it's just simply amazing to see how we're reliving the same cycle over and over again.

But I want to ask you, so what are you doing today? now you have this, is it a suspension notice against you and you've lost your job or the clinic? What do you do now? Yeah. I mean, they've taken me off the website. They've barred me from doing any clinics or operating there. So yeah, a really good question. What do I do? So, I mean, this morning I had a small clinic in London. I saw three patients, but you can't survive on three patients a week and um I'm having to think out the box now you know um so I started this podcast as a hobby you've been in my studio so I spent half my my savings on this building a garden studio getting the cameras the mics the laptop the the sound system the audio

visual cameras like the website up and running and this was my not it wasn't designed to make money it was designed to fight back because I didn't see any solution I saw all the problems I think we should talk about the problems that we're we've got today in this world so I could see all the problems but I couldn't see any solutions I don't trust any politicians you know Ed Griffin said anyone who trusts a politician is an idiot and I agree with him okay simple as politicians are scum they're basically the biggest scam and fraudsters and criminals who are trying to find a legitimate way of stealing money and grabbing

power. They are not good people. Okay? So, I don't trust politicians. I don't believe that voting is going to make any difference. What the hell? Like, we talk about democracy and let me look in the States. You've got a two-party system and really

where's the choice? Because when it really comes to the important matters, they're all saying the same thing. There's no point saying you differ on trivial matters but when it really comes to the crux you're both just saying the same thing and maybe one is saying oh we need to do more of that and so that's very much what you also have in the uk you got this two-party system this whole idea of left and right is a

construct it's a lie it's there to fool us and and we have a uniparty system with this illusion of choice i mean look at the democracy in israel i mean you guys seem to have an election every freaking weekend you know i mean like what what kind of like party and system do you have how can you vote anyone out i mean you got this guy this power hungry individual who just doesn't want to give up and you just have to think what the hell is this problem because the last thing i would would want to be is a politician i mean the idea of being a politician is like hell on earth so anyone who craves and clings on to it or no matter what must be from hell as far as i'm concerned so you know the politics our political systems are not working wherever you look okay so you

can't vote them out you can't write to your MP because they'll literally tear it up so what do you do so my idea to fight back was I do a podcast and I get really wonderful guests in some of whom I've already just mentioned and I start to inform the public educate them and empower them to make the correct choices for themselves and their loved ones so for example when someone comes along and says we're going to force you to take this vaccination so that you can go on holiday instead of saying okay give me the shot they'll go over my dead fracking body all right so that's what this was my fight back but now this this has to be my main source of income so I'm trying desperately to monetize it I mean I don't know how many listeners you get on

your podcast but regularly over like on a week I get over 30,000 now and in the since the four months I've started I think my down my podcasts have been played by over 500,000 people um unfortunately only 300 of them are paying let's just give a few details about the podcast dry details how many episodes so far 82 83 84 I can't remember now and I've got another nine in the pipeline um since June beginning of June and I've got about another 34 and we're in November yeah no June we did it in May dude no May 24th is when no no no when I launched it so I i got like 10 podcasts in a row and then i started publishing okay so if you look at yours yours is in june okay got it so you know that's why i'm back okay got it i always have like eight or ten

in the pipeline basically so you know i kind of amazing so you're doing a few a week three or four yeah three or four a week and people don't get that this is a lot of work like recording and editing and publishing and spreading and distributing and writing and uploading that there is so much work around it yeah let's talk about the technical shit yeah I don't think people get that you have to make thumbnails canvas you have to write a thumbnail description you need to upload it and type script and wordpress designer you're a writer you're a technician you're a producer you're the host you're everything you're a one-man show you have to schedule you have to schedule that's right you have to you have to approach potential guests

and try and find interesting people and research you have to research you have to research your topics it's a lot of work it's a lot of work so but and so i was given advice oh i may just do one podcast a week and blah blah blah i don't think people understood why i was doing a podcast every episode for me was me lobbing a shell at the enemy it was me shooting back at the enemy and so i'm on a mission to fire as much as possible to expose the lies and the deceit and and you know shed light and on the truth of what is actually happening because there's so much in this upside down clown world which is driven to cause division and hatred and fear and misery and enslave humanity and too many people are falling for the bullshit

propaganda and are turning on each other and if you look at covid what was happening was you had husband and wives not talking to each other dads and children not talking to each other grandparents not talking to each other work friends being fighting amongst each other you know the society we got became so polarized and even more so than it was before it was getting pretty polarized before the pandemic and now you know the problem is our our predator class you know have these little buttons and they go right here what button will we press today i mean we know recently i don't want to go into this topic but recently they pressed the big red button you know they do not press but they pressed it and now everyone's at each other's throats and oh this and that and i

stand by this and i stand by that and i stand with everyone you know don't fall for the classic divide and rule bullshit because that's what their agenda is so my podcast all this hard work was about you know I get so much satisfaction effort like talking to people like you and you know I don't know about you I'm sure it's the same over half of those 80 people I mean to be honest it's a lot more than that like I said I've got interviews in the pipeline you know over half of these people are not my friends like you you know I'm messaging and texting and they're checking in on me I found my tribe and I love it yeah no yes so that's where I am today it's a wonderful gift and it's worth it but it is very difficult to handle all of that by yourself and now that

this is your alternative way of making a living I just want people to understand that they you You know, if they care about the truth, if they care about freedom, they should take a look at how to support you. So we will put the link to your fundraising. You will give it to me and we'll put it in the show notes. Thanks. Which of the episodes that you recorded were your favorites? I know you don't have to say me. I know you loved it the most, but say the other ones.

Like I know you had A Doubt, which is one of my favorites. Okay. Now, listen, I'll be serious. so um which ones did i really enjoy so i loved ed griffin so ed griffin is the the chap who wrote um the creature from jekyll island and it's about the federal reserve fractional banking system and the banking cartel and it was incredible absolutely incredible he's 92 years old he still has that passion and fire in him and he gave me the biggest compliment ever he said amid you have the one percent crusader gene i've got it and you've got it and it gave me goosebumps and you know just

hearing it from him was amazing um so I loved that conversation I loved the conversation chapter four of that book and it's just one of the best books ever it's the most important book I've read in a long long time yes I loved my conversation with Jessica Rose she is a hoot yes I mean oh my god she is so funny she is hysterical I love her laugh it's like a witch's laugh but really cute um i love her to bits so she's she's great um i really like the one with sephedine and moose talking about um bitcoin the bitcoin standard because i really have struggled to understand bitcoin but it comes back to all about decentralization this is the way forward um i love the conversation that's true are you do you get it now dude do you get it are you

gonna start huddling well i don't have that much to say but i've got a little bit i've got a little bit of bitcoin yes i've got some bitcoin okay so so keep going dude this is this is your your path so basically the next thing was someone called jane donnegan she is amazing so jane donnegan is a gp irish jewish british real mixed fiery redhead i freaking love her to bits i mean she's just got the best of everything best of Irish best of British best of Jewish best of everything and I really urge people to listen to her because she's a true ethical doctor I loved Dr Sarah Myhill she's been investigated by the GMC over 34 times and that's because not because she's a quack because she's an ethical doctor and what she has to say everyone needs to hear about their health

and there's another doctor called Dr Natasha McBride Campbell McBride oh my god she's amazing are you noticing there's a trend here they're all women by the way where are all the men yeah they dare to talk and then um i loved i loved our conversation we had to laugh i think people don't realize i have not done a podcast like that with anyone we went off we had food we went and got ice cream we picked up kids we had i was just it was hilarious we had the blast right yeah and and the best thing about it was amazing yeah and because you were in in person you know you you emanate this amazing energy it's really positive you've got this amazing force field around you which is just incredible okay so it was just wonderful to be around you and my kids

loved it and yeah it was just great so yeah I really liked it it's really funny um after I started recording with ed dowd he said to me you know can i tell you something about it i went yeah he went i want to say a swear word it's not a nice word it's called you know see you see you next tuesday um and and he said it out loud and i was like whoa you're always such a good word i didn't really like it before but now i like it and i use it to describe all the weak pathetic men in the world today he goes there's a lot of strong women where are all the men and you know what amen to that yes you know where's all the strong men to that we need all the strong men to stand up and say enough yeah right enough with that bullshit yes there's not enough of them more women are

taking risks i think yeah 100 women are definitely taking more risks the women are incredible um who else i had a great chat with someone called peter laurie um he was amazing so he he he wrote to me um just a listener and a supporter he's one of my sub stack subscribers and he wrote to me and and and describe all the politics and the and the economy and the censorship and and i read this document and i was like oh my god this guy's amazing and i said can i ring you can i speak to you on the over the phone so we we had a chat on the phone and I said I want you to be a guest on my show and he said oh no you've got all these amazing guests I'm just a nobody and I said even more important I don't care how many followers you are how important you are what I care about

who you are right so who else right so I Rachel Brown she's a consultant psychiatrist and I freaking love her. She's a friend, such a good friend. Runa Osgaard was amazing. He talked about how inflation has been a policy for a thousand years and nothing has changed. JJ Cooey, he was a blast. Lubomir Arsov was amazing. He's done this cartoon animation called In Shadow. I urge everyone to watch it. If you go to my podcast, number 66, go to the last 15 minutes. It's incredible fergus o'connor greenwood he just unlearned the lies you've been taught to believe i mean that was mental liz evans she was amazing richard gage 9-11 aaron siri he was amazing philly j thomas binder elizabeth hart debbie i mean like can i be honest with you i'm not gonna

lie i i have yeah all right i'm gonna tell you a secret now i'm gonna now i'm gonna give you some inside secret i have recorded some podcasts which will never see the light of day really you have with people that you didn't what what happened tell me why because they were too what too what now now i'm curious so listen listen i totally value the fact that you know people listening to this podcast you know it that's a an honor I'm honored that people in their busy lives today are listening to you and me right they're they're either cooking and they got it in the background they're driving to work they're on their train on a commute they're running and jogging or they're in the gym whatever they've chosen to listen to our ramblings for whatever reason and I honor that

i'm humbled by that so i want to make sure that whatever content i put out because apparently i'm a content creator who knew that that we would be doing this um and you know i want to make sure it's of a very high quality i don't you know you're only as good as your last podcast and i i don't want to let down my listeners you know i'm humbled that they're taking the time to listen to me like i said and one of the sad realities is sometimes you know you've got this person in your mind you're like oh my god i'd love to talk to this person oh my god it'd be so funny it'll be this it'll be that and oh my god their twitter account is so hilarious they're so sarcastic or they're so witty and they're so funny and then you turn on the camera you start talking to them

and it's like oh no you do have a one of them or a few of them a few all right i get it you want and then and then I want top quality and then I've had a few who clearly were not organized they're in a room and it's echoey the sound quality is awful and it's all about I think it's really I mean the video is nice but you really want a sharp clear voice you know like even if I just do that I mean it's horrible yes you know as you listen it's terrible so you want of good sound quality and these people haven't they haven't respected me or the audience by preparing properly they've clearly been rushing around trying to fit it in and as a result it's just awful so I'm not going to put that out I get it and I had one person I get it who was so

doom and gloom and negative and didn't offer any solutions didn't offer any you know positivity I thought no I'm not doing this because look the narrative from the other side is all fear and fear porn and division and hatred and everything that's dark in this world and that's why I think we're definitely in a spiritual war so we are warriors of light we need to be beacons of light and hope and love and compassion and inspiration not not that bullshit that they're selling so that's why i love most of my guests who come on and go yeah look this is the shit that we're in this is the inverted clown world this is the upside down that we're world that we're in but listen this is how you can make yourself immune to the bs this is how you can

protect yourself and your loved ones tangible steps that you can take to protect yourself so that's the kind of message that i want to be promoting so am i picking you are and you are doing it yeah no you're you're doing it and you're doing an amazing job at it and who who would have thought that a doctor an orthopedic surgeon will become a podcaster like you it's quite unreal to watch you do this transition and I love it and I urge everyone to go and check out the docmalik.com website because it's full of surprises and we we haven't said the names of all the beautiful courageous people that you've interviewed but you have interviewed some really amazing people and uh and keep keep at it please keep at it and you know i know it's hard but you can do it

if anyone can do it it's you um yeah i was gonna say i go i've always had itchy feet what do i mean by that i i'm the kind of guy that loves variety and change and challenging myself i don't like doing same same so take for example the field of orthopedic surgery there's lots of different areas spinal surgery hands shoulders knees hips and pediatrics many of these specialities it actually is very much the same so take hip surgery it's either hip injection or hip replacement that's it so most hip surgeons will do the same two operations 99% of the time there is no variety but for example fit and ankle surgery that i do there's something like 40 to 50 different operations because if it's an ankle is so complicated there's tendons there's nerves

there's muscles there's joints there's fascia there's bone there's cartilage and all these things all these different parts of the anatomy can have disease and pathology and with all these different diseases and pathology there are different operations so in my 25 year career I've never gone to an operating list that was identical to the one before they're always different and I love that variety I love being on my toes I love knowing that you know I don't know what the next thing is going to be I I hate repetition I hate doing the same thing again and again I love a challenge and I think that's one of the reasons why I was quite happy to leave the nhs which was after seven years as a consultant i made a big jump i left a secure job and a secure

pension to go out on my own and i you know it's not been easy i got punished with brexit i was unemployed for six months during the lockdown i'm now being suspended you know it's come at a risk but equally it has its rewards and its freedom and it's liberating and now i feel like maybe this is my path. Every time I've been through adversity in my life, actually better things have worked out for me. At the time, it was pretty shit. But afterwards, I look back and think, just like my ex-wife, the best thing I ever did was divorce. It actually turned out to be the best thing that I ever went through. You know, all the things that I went through, all the tough times have led me to where I am today. And I quite like where I am today. And maybe, you know, this is my journey.

Maybe maybe I am meant to become a podcaster and instead of helping, you know, a couple of hundred people a year fixing their feet, maybe this way I'll help thousands of people across the world. And I am because I'm getting emails from people from Australia, from Hungary, from Austria, from Finland, from Canada, from America and telling me, thank you, thank you, thank you. And you know what? That fills my soul. and talking about changes i have to plug this listen i hope you don't mind you know i'm i'm i'm launching a merc merchandise store it's going to be cool as shit you know my brother-in-law is a techie and he's doing it for free and he's amazing because he wants to help feed my kids who he loves so shout out to my brother-in-law in sweden i love you and but with him and my sister his wife and myself we've designed you know hats and caps and beanies and mugs and hoodies so i'm

wearing one now what does it say i won't i will not comply i love it i need one thank you very much please i will give you my address to send it okay yeah so i will not comply i do not consent and freedom over fear and all this kind of stuff and frack that you know that's my tagline frack that and you know and and you can wear freedom on your body on your head and you can even drink from it and you can support me how cool is that and you know if someone said to me this is this is great yes someone said to me three months ago you you'd have a merchandise store i'd piss myself laughing but here you go you know shit happens and you have to adapt exactly so let's okay so let's talk about that for a second let's let's stop on that point there of adapting to

change of changing stuff in your life because this is something people need to get right now the world is changing in front of our eyes if you're not paying attention you're staying behind and you're staying behind big time it's impacting your health it's impacting your finances it's impacting your personal sense of security and safety it's impacting your family it's impacting your relationships everything so how what are those traits do that you think people need to embrace within themselves or even discover rediscover within themselves so that they can fucking get along with with with that struggle of changing something in their lives because people are so afraid to do something different to go against what you know that the logic tells them

and to go with their gut feeling and with their instinct and you're doing it and what I love and what I'm hearing in what you're saying is that a little bit like me at the moment you're not really planning too far ahead you're seeing what comes in front of you what life brings in front of you right now and then the and then you step to the next available solution that you have and then the road just paves itself underneath your foot so so how do you do that and what what kind of strength can you give people so that they get their shit together and start changing things in their lives that's a freaking epic question that's an epic question actually i've got a i've got a because we need to we i kind of want to i want to um you know chip in that stone

with you so that people can get i'm going to give you some of that wisdom yeah let me share let me share some of it and i've got a i've got a request first of all this this this podcast is epic This podcast is epic. Can I please also upload this on my podcast? Because then it will be win-win. Or my audience will see it. Of course. And it will promote you.

Of course. Because people need to hear your podcast. Of course. It's a win-win for everyone. Plug your podcast. What's your podcast called? I'm going to be the first person that is on your podcast twice. So what's your podcast called?

You're the voice. And where can you find it? You can find it on Spotify, Apple, Podbean, Spotify, Twitter, there's an You're the Voice Twitter handle. There's a link tree with all the different links on. I put some episodes on YouTube. So everyone, I've just hijacked Efrat's podcast. There you go. So just as I do with my podcast, I'm going to upload all the links in my website. You'll be able to find her. Please follow her please listen to our podcast i didn't say this you know i'm now hijacked your podcast but she's got amazing guests on as well and um she's an amazing human being i freaking love her she is

a super human she is super human right back to me being a guest right everybody so one of the things i've done with my podcast is i say sorry i'm just you're just rolling with this okay so basically i always ask my guests now in the end you know when you're on your deathbed what advice would you give to your friends and family and your grandchildren all that kind of stuff before you meet your maker health or otherwise i mean what some of the answers have been just all of them have just been incredible incredible so i'm going to share some of that with you and don't can you remind me i also want to tell your listeners like what are my top biohacks how they can you know bulletproof their health yeah okay like a quick

very very simple i have that question on the list yeah we're gonna get to that yeah because if they want the comprehensive you know doc malik simple guide to good health they're gonna have to buy the book next year anyway let's move on so we will answer that question very quickly but anyway and look i think people need to understand it doesn't matter how much money you've got in your bank you might have millions you might find in the not so distant future you're going to lose it all because it's all going to be taken away from you this idea of you will lose you will have nothing and be happy you know they they don't just make that thing up for no reason they've warned you they've told you they've told you the plans you know it's happening they're going to try their

best to take away your freedoms to restrict your ability to travel what you can do in terms of work where you can spend your money how you can spend your money what you can eat and the way you can think so unless you take and these are not conspiracy theories this is a reality and the sooner you wake up to this shit show the better you will be in terms of preparing yourself and protecting yourself now some people might say oh why this is all doom and gloom why are you talking about this none of this has happened listen you little frog you're currently in a pan slowly being boiled all right and unless you little frog leap out of the pan you're going to boil to death and by the time you've boiled to death it's going to be too late so yeah your argument sucks

unless you want to be a boiled dead frog because that's what they're doing to us they are literally right now boiling us all so wake the frack up so what can you do so that's so what i would say wake up wake the frack up number two um there's a guy called nick hudson i did a podcast with his head of panda and he gave the best advice i love nick yeah he said if you are in fear of being canceled suspended or investigated by an other by another authority or your employer guess what do it to yourself first cancel yourself and i was like what he goes you know if you work for someone quit go work for yourself you'll take a pay cut life will be shit and hard for a while but you'll get to a point where you know what you can say whatever the fuck you want you can do what you

want and no one can do anything to you you've canceled yourself yes great advice okay not easy yes not easy so no start thinking about it start maybe doing something on the sideline and growing that so you can start extricating yourself from the position where you're dependent and essentially enslaved because if you cannot say what you think because you're scared you are a slave. All right. So that's that. Ed Griffin says, don't take out any debt. I totally agree with it. I know debt makes money. And if you're clever and you know how to play the system, you can make money. I'm a shit businessman and an ethical doctor. I don't know how to play these games. I don't have properties. I've got this one house, which has been my house. It's not an

investment. It's my home. I don't have any other properties. I don't have a home in the Mediterranean or anything like that. I don't have any rentals. I don't know how to take loans out and make money from it i'm risk averse i don't want to expose myself to that i don't know how to play that game and for most people they're the same but don't take out debt so if you can't afford the brand new car don't take it out on credit if you've got an old car like mine that's 2015 and you've paid it off just keep it just repair it same same with me don't yes don't buy any fancy expensive clothes except mine okay buy my merchandise no i'm just joking so so basically don't they're not expensive right they're they're pretty well valued pretty well priced beautifully priced so no no seriously

like like don't don't go on expensive holidays you know if you can't if you can't afford going abroad and five-star hotel don't do that you know you know where we've gone for the last four years we've gone to cornwall where my in-laws live free holiday and comes with child care woohoo you know um this summer we went to portugal but that was on my mom god bless her thank you so much to my mom i love you i know you don't listen to this but if one day you ever do i just want to say thank you so much it was an amazing holiday all right so don't don't spend outside of your means and secure your finances be as self-sufficient as possible start trying to grow things you know some vegetables you know no matter what your garden space or a lot find an allotment find

some potted plants just try and grow things and and and be self-sufficient try and source your food from local communities local growers local farmers form relationships with them find out where the meat is coming from where your food is coming from bypass the supermarkets if you do have to go to a supermarket stick to the surroundings eat whole foods if it looks like a plant eat it if it was made if it ate a plant eat it but if it was made in a factory plant avoid it it's full of toxins poisons preservatives these things are designed so that the bacteria and the mold don't eat it just think about it the bacteria and the mold do not want to eat this food so why the hell would you and the thing is it's complicated we'll come back to that in the health remind me to talk

about the gut biome so you know in terms of then your finances you know don't leverage yourself with massive debt just don't do that i would say seriously think about putting some money in bitcoin like don't not all your savings but if you've got a little bit put something in bitcoin it's a decentralized platform listen to sephedine's podcast that i did with him he's the author of the bitcoin standards he is the authority he's an economist he's amazing basically not only is it decentralized but you know you can't monitor it there's no no controlling central mechanism where they can monitor who's spending what and where and also they can't make more of it so the current problem that we have inflation whatever is this you know you have quantitative easing and all

this kind of stuff where they print money out of nothing and what that does is it enriches the rich and impoverishes the poor it and lowers our living standard it makes everything more expensive and you know that and i know that forget the government tv figures about inflation you know when we go and buy food you go what the frack how did my bill tally up to this amount so that's because they're printing it now there will only ever be 21 million bitcoins in history ever no more than that so it's decentralized it's finite resource put a little bit in there the price looks high you don't need to get a whole bitcoin no one can afford it Well, no one I know can afford a whole Bitcoin, but you can buy a fraction of a Bitcoin.

A hundred pounds, I've put my savings and buffer so that I can pay my bills and my mortgage for the next six months. Because at the current rate that I'm in, in six months time, I'm going to be in deep shit. So unless something seriously improves, more Substack subscribers, my merch store takes off, someone comes along and says, I'm going to sponsor you, I'm in trouble. So that's why I'm being very careful. Anyway, you should definitely invest something in Bitcoin. and I think the price will only go up in the next 10, 15, 20 years and suddenly this small investment

that you're making now will be absolutely huge. I wouldn't put any money in Ethereum or any of these other platforms, just Bitcoins, Discoins. And also gold, it's a possibility. But I want to take you back to the question and I want you to answer it, please, sir.

How do you, where do you find the strength to adapt to change? what does it take from you to handle change in an uncertainty in a very volatile situation you don't know what the next six months going to look like and still you're doing new things and allowing yourself to take risks where do you find that strength how do you do that i think it's about making yourself immune to fear as much as possible now it's not it's not possible to get rid of fear completely like my eight-year-old daughter said if you do not feel fear then you cannot be brave you have to have a bit of fear to be brave and i you know

and i agree with that so i am a little bit fearful and when i got suspended for the first three weeks i got really hit i was down i was depressed i was sick you know my immune system was shot and i'm human i'm human and even though i kept reminding myself i've been knocked down before many a time i you know i've i've been for a lot i don't want to bore people but i've had a tough life and every single time you have to pick yourself up and i've managed and i've got back stronger and i've had to remind myself of that so i think having that's part of the answer there the fact that i failed the fact that i've had doors shut on my feet the face the fact that i was paralyzed twice in my life following a car accident have emergency surgery and had complications

the fact that i had a painful marriage and awful divorce the fact that i've struggled with at one point mental health crisis and was suicidal you know the bullying and harassment at work you know i was accused of sexual harassment and and that was just nonsense because i was uncovering fraud you know i've been through so much shit you have no idea and i think all of these things have made me more resilient and and that's important so embrace failure embrace being knocked down on your feet because it will make you tougher and and and to to have that resilience you also need physical resilience so if you're not physically and mentally resilient you will crumble so i I exercise, I take care of my health, I sleep.

And sleep is so underrated. People don't appreciate how important sleep is. Sleep is when your body heals and recovers. If you do not sleep, your anxiety will be up, your stress will be up, your cortisol will be up, your insulin levels will be up. You know, everything goes up. And sleep is when you repair mind and body and soul.

So you need to be physically and mentally resilient. The food that you eat will make you resilient. you know your stress will make you resilient and also things like love connection so having someone in your life that you love and care for having a community having friendships that's extremely powerful one of my guests having physical relationships and not just virtual right yeah absolutely physical tangible you know go hug someone go hug someone so Travis christopherson one of my guests who has talked about the risk of cancer and how to mitigate cancer made it clear that one of the biggest risk factors for cancer was loneliness if you don't

have connection you know we are social animals if you're isolated and lonely that is not a good thing now guess what they did to us in the pandemic i'm just saying and they knew this so so be resilient physically and mentally and you do that by being as healthy as possible and embrace the adversity because in adversity lies opportunity you know get out of the discomfort you know sorry the comfort become comfortable there's a there's a saying in jiu-jitsu i do jiu-jitsu as well there's a saying become comfortable in the discomfort so when i have a 23 year old six foot two 100 kilogram lad sitting on top of me in side control squeezing the air out of me i have to go you have to surrender just surrender and so too many of us are now soft

we're cozy we have comfort you're hungry go to mcdonald's you're hungry get delivery or uber eats and just get whatever bullshit carb quick gratification no one no one waits for anything no one suffers in any form it's all instant gratification soft easy route to everything and you know what that's not good you get flabby mentally and physically flabby and you don't want to be flabby you want to be toned hard resilient you know with a nice compassionate gooey soft center but you want to be hard okay so I think with an open I think that's yeah I think that's where I am so you know I was a bit nervous obviously I'm human I was a bit fearful I was very anxious I was very down but now I've picked myself up and you know let's go back to the

connection you know my tribe is amazing so back to you know my 350 paid subscribers I just want to say I freaking love you I freaking love you you know the messages and the words of support and comfort and you know they're just beautiful the things they say to me really gives me energy inspires me I'm doing the right thing I'm not crazy because sometimes you know I do I do think Yes. Am I just a nut job? All my colleagues must think I'm crazy. Am I the only person that thinks like this? Is there something seriously wrong with me? Maybe I'm the one with the problem. Everyone seems to be getting on with their role and seems to be very happy. Why am I upset about everything? Like, why do I call all this bullshit? And then I sit down and relax and go, no, I'm

right. Everyone else is an idiot. You know, they're all clowns. This, this, this world has become mad and just because i'm in the minority doesn't mean i'm wrong but you need that self reflection but all the people messaging me and writing to me and the dms i get you know they fill my heart with wonder and amazement that people from you know really strange different backgrounds from me from other walks of life really resonate completely with what i say the stories they tell me i'm like oh my god yeah that's me so there is a big tribe listen i think there's a lesson here there's a lesson here for you and for me and for everyone out there that the vicious plan of dividing us all the time is simply just a plan because there are connections

between us that cannot be broken by anything when the heart is open when the mind is open when we're on the same frequency on the same wavelength it really doesn't matter if you're brown and i'm jewish if you're scottish and i'm israeli if you're whatever you know it so doesn't matter what divides us and we said that together in our first episode together it's all about finding the connection rather than finding what divides us. And if we look at that amount of love and the gratitude and the beautiful words that you're getting, it's not just because of the content that you put out there. It's because of the frequency you're creating. It's because of the openness, the freedom that people feel when they listen to you, the inspiration that they

draw, the strength that they can take away from you, the tips. People want to live that way. no one wants to be a slave and when they listen to you and when they listen to me and others they get that it's possible and that's what we need to hold on to because i think that we're in such a turbulent time that if people do not clean their heart you know and clean their karma and clean up their lives from all the mess that we have around us both internally and externally we're not gonna we may not survive this round it's a very tough one and we have to clear everything we have to as much as we can right it's difficult but then and we have to connect with like-minded people so that we become stronger together and find the ways to unite and to love each other

in spite of the differences and remember that with discussion with words we can create new realities we can create new movements we can create new ways of living together it's it's just crazy that what is normal right now is war and hate and anger and revenge that's the only thing that is normalized right now and it's crazy right the team humanity i'm calling you team humanity I love what you just said and our resistance is to not get angry to not get enraged and to not pick a side and to pick everyone's side and pick humanity and it's difficult because even just making that choice oftentimes brings on hate from both sides it's like what do you mean so if you're not on my side you're on their side and you're like no I'm not I'm not on anyone's side I'm on

everyone's side and then you know you will inevitably get hate from some people but i've got so many people who i love in my world who come from all backgrounds you know i've got people who are christian devout christians devout jews devout muslims atheists agnostics and i love them all and they all have something in common which is they love humanity and they have morals and integrity and common sense and they're good human beings i don't know if you remember i gave up on religion about 15 years ago i was brought up in a cult it's not my fault i was brought you know born into it and i i didn't like it even as a kid this idea that our cult our sect of islam was a special one not the other 71 or 72 sects our sect was a correct one so never mind islam

is better than Judaism or Christianity. Our sect in Islam was better than the other sects in Islam. You know, it was just ridiculous. And, you know, I studied lots of other religions and I found that many of these religions had beautiful things about them. But a lot of them were very flawed. And I thought, a lot of these have been captured

by human beings and have been manipulated to basically be used as tools, political tools, to control a population, to subjugate a population. There's a lot of guilt. There's a lot of shame. It's funny how many religions are obsessed about sex. For people who don't like sex, God Almighty, they talk about sex a lot. And, you know, I just gave up on religion, but I never gave up on God.

In me, I am convinced there is a creator. There is a creator. Now, I don't know what form he takes, where he is, what he is, but I am convinced that there is a creator. I have no proof. I have no evidence, but I hold on to that. And I hold on to this idea that we have been created, that we are all special, that we are all spiritual beings. We are souls that wear this temporary physical sleeve, this thing we call a body.

And this idea that these superficial extremities and, you know, exteriors make us fundamentally different is ridiculous. It's almost like saying, Efrat, you're wearing a black top and I'm wearing a blue hoodie. You know, I don't like black top people. I like people who wear hoodies. Hoodies are my tribe. I mean, it's just so ridiculous because our true essence is the same. We're all the same.

And when people start to say, no, they're not human, we're dehumanizing them or they're not better than us and our culture is better and we're more enlightened and ennobled and they're deserving because they're subhuman, we start getting into a difficult path. And I see this everywhere.

It's not one group. It's multiple groups. multiple peoples from all different types of religions who think we are better we are on the right path we are the the special ones and that's dangerous and i'm of the view that you know we're all special we're all equal but different we're all deserving of the of equal opportunities and you know the answer is love and compassion and understanding and most human beings i i've met so many people i've been quite lucky that i've traveled around the world most people i've met you know really really bar like on one hand a couple of idiots thousands of people i've met

they're all lovely human beings they they want to be loved they want to love back they they want a home and a shelter they want warm food and they want you know comfortable life and existence and they want freedom and that's what they want and i think if you go to a place in rwanda or a village in afghanistan or a kibbutz in israel or a place in palestine or america or england wherever australia that's what people want that's that's everybody everybody wants that i don't think anybody wants anything different there are a few predator class people out there and psychopaths and sociopaths, and narcissists. And they're the scum, you know, that float and feed on the rest of humanity. And the problem is with humanity, many of us want to conform. We don't want to

step out of line. You know, we don't want to speak out. And we are too trusting in authority. We want people to lead us. We want people to take charge. And we want to abdicate our responsibility to other people let them do our thinking for us and because of that nature the minority evil predator psychopath class take advantage of us they go haha these people want us to make the decisions for them let's do it and abuse them in the process so this is why humanity will never transcend unless it breaks out of that cycle we need to learn to be brave and to walk our own paths in truth and light. We need to not abdicate our freedom and our choices

and our responsibility and our thinking. We need to maintain critical thinking. We need to be immune to this ideal of tribalism. The only race that matters is the human race. You know, I hate this whole black lives matter. Oh, so do white, so do brown, so do Jewish, so do Muslim, so do everybody. All lives matter.

You know, it's just nonsensical. And people get upset. There's, oh, no, but black people have suffered. Everybody suffered at some point. What about the red Native Americans? Okay, what about the Aborigines? I mean, we can just pluck the people out, the Azerbaijanis, the Armenians. You know, everybody at some point has been treated really badly.

You know, all lives matter. Every life matters. Every life is precious. Clearly, there's some really, really bad people out there, and I'm not making excuses for them you should lock them up you know I've got pretty harsh ideas about what to do to pedophiles for example

you know it wouldn't be very popular but I would make them suffer you know and stuff like that so the bad people for sure let's deal with the bad people but the majority of people are good and human beings need to remember that anyway we need to talk

I know we're running out of time about health can I quickly rattle through that do that okay so listen first of all start with the sleep and i'd say 90 of the people that i meet have got dysregulated and abnormal sleep patterns so going to sleep far too late midnight one in the morning waking up several times in the night and then waking up very late in the morning or then having naps during the day stop it go to sleep early wake up early there's a circadian rhythm don't frack around with it okay you might think you're a night owl bullshit go out in the pitch black and

see how far you can see you can't see jack you can't see deadly squat so this idea that you're a night owl bullshit you're identifying as the wrong species so stop that okay so you're a human being you're not nocturnal okay you don't go toot toot in the night and if you do you need help so go to sleep early and that's it so stop drinking coffee after midnight sorry midday so stop drinking coffee at midday and find your tolerance i'm really trying to wean off coffee i stopped for two weeks and i started then i stopped and i don't know what i'm doing but anyway i don't have more than one shot now and even when i get one shot my sleep is sometimes a bit rocky so that's why i'm trying to wean off but i like coffee so much anyway so cap your caffeine and definitely don't drink

after midday um don't eat after 7 p.m 7 30 p.m because you need your stomach empty for three hours before you go to sleep if your stomach's loaded with food you can't go to sleep it's churning there's inflammation it's a process it's hard work you won't be able to go to sleep your cortisol levels have gone up your heart you've messed up your hormones do not eat late at night you know a lot of people are listening right now and going oh shit yeah oh shit don't eat late at night oh but i get home late from work well then stop that job change your life take packed lunch i don't care make it work don't eat late at night i can go into the site buy my book next year and it'll explain everything but right now just just trust me um so go to sleep early wake up early

if you wake up every morning at six o'clock and after four or five days honestly you'll be crawling into bed at half nine ten o'clock so wake up early and when you do wake up have a hot shower try a cold bath or a cold shower get that system jolted the cortisol cortisol level in there adrenaline wake up and then get that morning light in your eyes even if it's a cloudy overcast day look up at the sky especially at midday as well get outside we're often indoors working indoors in our offices get up get some sunlight get reset your circadian rhythm and at night unlike what i'm doing right now turn the lights down dim it all down okay so that your body starts to recognize oh it's time to go to sleep now so tv the flashing light stop that you know um eight nine o'clock at

night everything should be winding down tv's winding down the excitement should be going down start doing a little meditation routine you know brush your teeth and read a book and do some exercises and do some meditation whatever you know what's also great have sex fantastic you sleep like a baby after that anyway so then that's sleep done next stress keep your stress levels down people like patient today i was like are you stressed oh yeah i'm stressed i've got kids work you know of course i'm stressed well give us some tips so a cold bath is fantastic for stress fantastic no one gets out of a cold bath feeling anxious or or depressed they feel euphoric you get this massive dopamine flood and if you're getting stressed like a couple of times

in the day do it twice a day do it three times a day cold baths are amazing i swear to god it's fantastic it's changing my life and play some nice music or just lie there in the bath waft the water put some ice in it get nice and cold four or five minutes amazing um exercise fantastic dopamine hit and when it comes to exercise the best there's lots of different types of exercise so imagine like a chair has got four legs you've got anaerobic aerobic stability work and then you got strength training strength training is your biggest bang for your buck and especially for the people who are around about our age because we are the the ones who are fighting the fight back you know have you noticed it's our age group and you want to hold on to your muscles

you want to you want to prevent sarcopenia so the biggest bang for your buck is strength conditioning exercises and guess what you don't need to go to a gym look at those guns boom so you don't need to go to a gym you know what do press-ups push-ups lunges yeah lunges split leg hamstring you know perfect three lots of 15 and add weight to it so get a dumbbell or kettlebell and add the weights to it you know um just start doing these exercises strength training um that's really important now just 15 20 minutes first thing in the morning just 15 20 minutes three four times a day sorry a week um that gives you a dopamine hit in terms of other things about stress don't don't eat for too long an eating window so eating is stressful eating is inflammatory and you want to

cut back your eating window so that you're running on ketones and you're in a ketone state of ketosis so you know that's called intermittent fasting so start off like fasting once a day yeah once a day i fast on average 21 hours a day so i run on ketones i don't run on carbohydrates i burn clean it's a clean efficient fuel source and ketones are much better for your brain than carbohydrates carbohydrates will cause this fluctuation in your mood you have this high and then low high and low whereas if you're on ketones it's a so get it and what about people that can go to what once a day straight away how would you do it gradually have two meals a day so i started fasting for 16 hours a day i got an app on my phone you can you call zero vorah whatever

and just fast for 16 hours a day that's the bare minimum never go underneath 16 hours so that means you've got an eating window of eight hours eight hours so that means from 10 o'clock in the morning to six o'clock or 11 o'clock to 7 p.m you can eat man that's a plenty of time so you can have a a lunch and you can have an early dinner there you go you got your two meals but after four weeks go to 18 hours get to 18 hours so that means now eating between 12 and 6 so you can still have lunch and an early dinner okay and and that is ideal now what i am at is even better 20 hours 21 hours and that's one meal a day so we typically eat somewhere between 3 to 7 2 p.m to 6 p.m something like that now if you can get to that state that's magic now once a week if you can

fasted 25 26 hours even better because then you're really getting autophagy and that's where your body's cleaning up all the cancer cells that's really wow okay and and these are all easy and doable and once you do it slowly and gradually look habits are easy it's changing habits that are difficult okay once you've changed it'll be easy again i promise you so you know getting into your ketosis state is really good for your mind and your body and your gut it's the optimal fuel cell and it will make you much more stable so get off so get on moving on from that again and everything's interlinked so we were talking about stress but we're never talking about diet and eating window and exercise so another thing i would say is get on a kind of keto diet or ultimately

even a carnivore diet minimize the carbohydrates especially processed get rid of that we're all sugar addicts. Just get meat and protein. Now, if you've got any allergens, you might want to cut out dairy. Definitely cut out things like gluten and cereals. You don't need that. Run on a ketone diet, paleo keto diet. Look up Sarah Myhill. She's written books about it. Check out her website. So that's a really good thing to do as well, okay? And then I would say take supplements. Everybody should be taking high-dose vitamin D3, 10,000 units. They should be taking zinc, picolanti like 45 50 milligrams they should be taking magnesium um at night it helps you sleep um magnesium glycinate i would recommend you take um what else vitamin b complex vitamin c

okay vitamin c you should everybody should be taking like three thousand four thousand milligrams of vitamin c every day so these are all very important supplements i mean you can take a lot more but i mean these are the basics everybody should be taking um so we've talked about a diet we talked about diet remember whole foods you can eat that you can eat meat that's the optimal source pasture fed and then avoid and you wanted to say something about the microbiome as well yes the microbiome your gut biome is so crucial for your immune system for making hormones so 70 of your dopamine and serotonin 50 of the other one is made in your gut by your gut biome your bacteria they actually make this the the neurotransmitters it literally is if you have a

happy gut you have a happy mind now your gut flora is determined by what you feed it now the upper gut is meant to be sterile acidic and the lower gut the large bowel is where the fermentation bacteria is meant to be now if you have upper small bowel and infection with yeast fungi or bacteria, it's a problem. You have a leaky gut, you have toxins in your body, you're sick, you're diseased, you're mentally not healthy. So, you know, if you take proton pump inhibitors, you get rid of the acid. The acid is there because we're carnivores and it kills all the bacteria when we eat the meat. So you're meant to have a very acidic stomach. So, you know, proton pump inhibitors, it's nonsense. If you have gastric reflux and hiatus hernia, it's not because you've got too

much acid it's because you've probably got an upper bowel gut and fermentation business going on you've got SIBO you've got small intestinal bowel you know overgrowth these are the problems that you've got it's not the fact you've got too much acid and how do you get rid of that and back to your infection it's basically very simple you starve it don't feed it processed carbohydrate crap just give it meat for a while pure meat carnivore and that will get your stomach back to normal and then gently start introducing certain whole foods as your body will tolerate it and if your gut is happy your your bacteria flora is happy um your your immune system will be boosted and your mind will be happier there is a gut mind axis so look after your gut we did a we did a whole

um episode with dr sabine kazan she's a um she's a gastro gastroenterologist and and freedom fighter and free spider that's right she's amazing so you know and then it's like so sleep stress exercise supplements diet eating window you know don't think don't have things like seed oils in your diet don't have low fat anything have animal fats extra virgin olive oil ghee butter beef tallow lard whatever and like i said you know organic food that's not covered in pistil and insecticides and pesticides and all this garbage and then have love love is important and have spirituality you know whether you believe in god or whatever you know just pray to your maker pray to something form some relationship with the world and the cosmos and

the universe and know what a small and significant part that you play in it and you know effort i i can you know i understand you know you're going through a lot of stress and everything that you're seeing i'm going to ask you something like just close your eyes for a second everyone listening close your eyes just close your eyes okay close your eyes just imagine you're standing on a line and this line is in the universe and all around you you can see galaxies and stars and planets being born and destroyed and now in front of you you can see the earth and it's like a timeline there are multiple errors and you stretch back and you know you're going faster and faster and faster into history and the pyramids are being built we don't know who was building those

pyramids but these massive ton blocks of stone are being built and then you know these other massive you know structures across the world and civilizations are coming greece rome you know all these empires coming and going the byzantine the babylonian the assyrians and there's death and there's mayhem and there's famine and then there's hope and invention and love and joy and it stretches out for thousands of years this history of humanity now we zoom into the present in weeks and days and seconds and you know what we think our now our present is just everything and everything we are just one tiny little blip when it comes to the history of this earth and this planet and this cosmos and you know what don't worry things have always been up and down

we make our future right now we make our world right now by how we think and look and interact with it so don't fall into despair and fear and anger and and hatred but be filled with hope and love and that will prevail i promise you you can open your eyes thank you so much my friend that's all right i might have to wrap up soon that's what we need we're both going to wrap up with a big big virtual hug thank you for being who you are thank you for uh spending and investing all these wonderful words with me uh my pleasure love you man love you sis uh i i love you i love you so much thank you so much we're gonna see you need to come you need to come over with your boyfriend we we've

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