You're The Voice | by Efrat Fenigson - Ep. 28: Senator Malcolm Roberts - Control vs. Freedom

Episode Date: May 8, 2024

🎙️You're The Voice - Ep. 28 - Senator Malcolm Roberts  My guest today is Senator Malcolm Roberts, an Australian politician from Queensland and a member of the Australian Senate. With a backgroun...d in engineering, mining, business and economics, Senator Roberts is a climate realist, challenging mainstream climate science and exposing lies in this field. Unlike most politicians these days, Senator Roberts is a Truth teller and does not shy away from any topic: public health, Covid, immigration, finance, economics, sexual education for children and more.  In this episode we talk about the anti-human globalist agenda and how it manifested in Australia over the past few years. We cover the Senator’s fight against climate fraud, his efforts to help Covid-19 jabs injured, to expose excess deaths and more, while holding politicians accountable, encouraging people to reclaim their power. The Senator criticizes the centralization of government and the media by globalists, introducing new levels of censorship on Australians. The conversation concludes with monetary and economic changes in Australia, including the move to a cashless society, CBDC, digital IDs, 15-minute cities and more.  The senator highlights the importance of simplicity and the power of individual responsibility in creating positive change and waking people up to the truth. He concludes with a message of hope, urging individuals to be proud of their humanity and to share information to help others become informed. ► This episode is almost 2 hours long, enjoy listening or watching it in parts!  ► Due to censorship, I won’t be adding the full episode to YouTube. Watch it here, on Rumble, Substack or Spotify. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, subscribe and support my work. Thank you! -- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES – ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn  ►► Join me at BTC Prague with 10% off tickets (use code EFRAT): https://bit.ly/3VZDhrn  ►► Join me at Bitcoin Nashville with 10% off tickets (use code BTCIL): https://glnk.io/lr8q9/btcil  ►► Join me at Mallorca Blockchain Days with 50 euro off tickets (use code efrat): https://bit.ly/43ygh4I  -- CHAPTERS -- 00:00 Coming Up... 01:06 Introduction to Senator Roberts 03:19 Politicians in Today's Reality 11:06 Ad Break: Trezor, Bitcoin Nashville, BTC Prague 13:03 Why Politics? 16:56 About Human Progress  23:04 Australian Politics & Activism 25:02 Political Structure in Australia 28:47 Balancing the Exaggerated Power of the State  30:38 Truth Telling, Simplicity & Education 35:02 Efrat's Resistance to Green Pass During Covid 38:01 Senator's Climate Fraud Views 44:30 How To Break The Narrative? 49:21 Admitting Being Fooled About Covid 55:40 Excess Death & Vaxx Injuries in Australia 01:03:08 Australia's During Covid & Bigger Picture 01:12:46 Compensation Plan For Vaxx Injured 01:14:24 Media, Censorship & Fear in Australia 01:22:04 Role of Regulation, Legislation, Censorship 01:26:53 CBDC & Digital IDs in Australia 01:32:29 Globalists Vision For Useless Eaters 01:33:58 Money Agenda, Cashless Society & How To Fight Back 01:44:05 Protecting Your Wealth & Family 01:48:04 Bitcoin & Nation States 01:50:01 Globalists Control & A Message Of Hope   -- LINKS – Senator Roberts’ Website: https://www.malcolmrobertsqld.com.au/  Twitter: https://twitter.com/MRobertsQLD YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm4XHDoKJx-H8f724Js5f2Q  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/senatormalcolmroberts/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/malcolmrobertsonenation/ Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson Efrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigson Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice Support Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Do you think the Australian government now is suppressing COVID adverse reactions and deaths? Without a doubt, yes. They know? Yes. They can't not know. They're either incredibly stupid. The excess death number are there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:17 The Australian Bureau of Statistics, its own figures now show around about 26,000 deaths, excess deaths for 2022. And no one is asking why. Nothing. We've been asking why. now that to me shows that they don't care they'd rather have this death ongoing deaths continue so you can tell i'm getting a bit angry about this because they're killing people they're killing tens of thousands of people but worse than that effort they are saying they don't know so if you're a doctor if you're a health official if you're a bureaucrat your duty is to find out what is
Starting point is 00:00:50 killing these 36 these 26 000 plus people welcome to another episode of you're the voice i'm a flat phoenix on recording from brisbane australia at the podcast boss studios i am delighted to meet a very special person senator malcolm roberts thank you for joining me senator you're welcome everett Thank you for the invitation. It's good to be here. I'm very excited to be with you. It's really great. So let's start with a short intro of you that I put together. Let's see if I'm accurate.
Starting point is 00:01:33 So Senator Roberts is an Australian politician under the One Nation Party in Queensland and a member of the Australian Senate since 2016. With a small gap in the middle. Okay. I can explain that later. You stopped and you came back again? No, I was found to have dual citizenship. Oh.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Even though I had renounced properly, it wasn't done technically correctly by the time of nomination. So I was booted out along with about six or seven others. And then you came back? Then I came back at the next election. Okay. So people must have liked what I did. I guess so. I guess so.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Well, I know why. He has a background in engineering, mining, business and economics. He's a climate realist. That's how I call you. Climate realist. I go by the data. You go by the data. You do. Challenging the mainstream climate science and exposing lies in this field. Unlike most politicians these days, Senator Roberts does not shy away from
Starting point is 00:02:34 any topic. So it seems he's speaking about and acting on public health and COVID, immigration, finance, economics, housing, sexual education for children and more. During the past three years, I noticed your work because you were one of those rare politicians who genuinely care about humanity and your fellow citizens. And you were brave enough to speak out in your country about the atrocities, corruptions, and lies enforced on us by our governments and the ruling global elite class. In the Twitter space we had last week, I was pleased to hear you call out the global elite banking families who control our world, which is quite unusual. I spent the past few weeks in Melbourne before I came here, where I met with many people from the awakened community there.
Starting point is 00:03:29 And when I told them that I'm interviewing you, they were all aware of your work and they were very proud. Oh, thank you. Yes. They were like, oh, you're going to see Senator Roberts. They felt proud. Although they're Melbournians, you know, they still felt like, you know, you're one of them. So, and also our mutual friend, Professor Ian Brighthope. Oh, wonderful.
Starting point is 00:03:52 He asked to say that you're a true statesman. Thank you. So, they know you and they've been following you, even there in Victoria. And I saw you all the way back from Israel and I've been following. And I think that's what you need to know, that a lot of people
Starting point is 00:04:08 around the world are following. I'm sure you're getting it from all the different social media channels, but your work is shown, just like people like Christine Anderson, for example, in Germany, and Senator Alex Antic, and many other people in the U.S. that I've been following because there are almost hardly any politicians that are doing work that really serves the public these days.
Starting point is 00:04:33 I feel like most politicians are serving themselves or other people that they're working for or taking orders from. And they forgot about their constituents. They forgot about why they're doing what they're doing. They forgot that they're supposed to be public servants. Where is the public? Well, in my first speech in the Senate in September 2016, I started with the words,
Starting point is 00:04:59 as a servant to the people of Queensland and Australia. Queensland is my state that I represent in the federal parliament. As a servant to the people of Queensland and Australia, And the Labor Party opposite me laughed, some of them, and some of the Liberals sniggered. They don't live like that. No, who pays my wages? Yeah, exactly, the people. Who elects me? The people.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Who am I supposed to listen to and represent them as their voice in Parliament? The people. Yes. So that's the core to what we do. Every speech more than three minutes in length, I start with those words, as a servant to the people of Queensland, Australia, or something like that, I bury it around. And you see, that's supposed to be the norm, and it's not. And the fact that you are like that, and that's who you are and what you do, is unusual. And I think it's an indication to the state of humanity today, where we are. The roles have shifted. Instead of the public servant serving the public, something else is happening there. And yet you said you'd be interested in learning what I meant by that we have the moral power, the political power, and we also have the consumer powers.
Starting point is 00:06:10 The consumer power we have because we can decide whether or not we buy media and who we buy it from. We can just switch off the TV. We can switch off the newspapers. When you say we, it's important for me to say the people. We the people. Not we the politicians. No, no. We the people can switch off the TV, can stop paying subscriptions to.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Yes. people that are controlling the media we have the moral power because we have the we are in charge of our country we're the people because i don't know how israel is formed but in australia we have a constitution that is the only constitution in the world that the people voted for really yes and it's the only i only found out two years ago that that we're the only constitution in which the people voted for and the only people who can change our constitution is through a majority of the people. Wow.
Starting point is 00:07:01 So we're in charge. People think that we're a monarchy. So we are a monarchy, but we're a constitutional monarchy. And in a constitutional monarchy, the monarch only has reserve powers. And the monarch serves the constitution. Her role or his role is laid out in the constitution. We are a republic already, effectively, because we're run by a rule of law, which is the constitution.
Starting point is 00:07:27 and we elect the government. So what's happened in this country is the same that's happened in America, Canada, Britain, New Zealand. I'm guessing Israel, but I don't know. No, Israel does not have a constitution. No, what I was getting to was that… But it's the same as Western democracies. Right, it is a democracy.
Starting point is 00:07:45 It's the only democracy in the Middle East. The thing about a democracy is that the people rule, but the people have stopped ruling because we've stopped holding politicians accountable. instead the media portrays people in different lights so it's been distorted it's been warped so what we've got to do is wake up people uh commercially so that they realize they have the power morally so that they start doing what they're in what they're supposed to do and a democracy can only thrive when the people are in charge because the number one thing for the
Starting point is 00:08:14 advancement of human progress is freedom yes because your ideas um you can share them with me that's the that's the the engine room of all human progress that's sharing of ideas and that's why when i do my talk my talk is called the world of freedom versus control because it's all about freedom or control we live in a in a world that is completely polarized and there's duality there's good and bad we're gonna get on black and white evil and good right and there's control and freedom And it's all about freedom, as you said, and sovereignty. And we just, we the people, just forgot about that. And we accept everything that is being thrown at us as if it's normal, should be like that.
Starting point is 00:09:05 We don't question. We accept. I'm so happy to hear that because I've literally stood up in parliament and in public speeches saying this right versus left is bullshit. Yes. It's to control people. Yes. But how can you say that when you're a politician? Are you not on the right or left part of the map, the political map?
Starting point is 00:09:27 It's nonsense. Some people, even in parliament, are on the left wing, what they think is the left wing morally or socially, and on the right wing economically, and they're reverse. So what I've said all along, you might be surprised to hear this, but it's not left versus right. It's control versus freedom. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:09:48 And I've been saying that and made that argument for ever since I got into parliament. What I realized when I first thought of that, I was reading a book by Gary Allen, who's a historian in California. You familiar with it? None Dare Call a Conspiracy. No. Very thin book, wonderful book, very simply written. And he's reading this and I thought, gosh, this is left versus right, because he wasn't
Starting point is 00:10:12 pushing left versus right. Yes. But I thought, Hitler is betrayed as a right-wing extremist. But his party was the National Socialist Party. Which is left. He's a left. So I thought, this is all bullshit. This is done by the globalists to confuse us, to separate us,
Starting point is 00:10:31 and to get people to not think but to just align with the side. Yeah. And that's what they've done. They've taken the thinking out of being a human. They've taken the thinking out of being a democratic person. And they just, we basically just follow now. Well, some of us, some people do. Correct.
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Starting point is 00:12:35 and 10 000 like-minded bitcoiners and freedom lovers from all around the world i'm excited to attend for the first time as a speaker i'll be speaking about cbdc's interviewing other speakers learning about bitcoin and meeting the best and brightest in the industry the event runs for three days with a rich program from pitching contests to panels presentations and parties i'd love to meet you in Prague, use my code for a 10% discount. Bob said to me one day, this is the biggest scam perpetrator on humanity. And I said, Bob, it's not even close. And so he said, what's bigger? And I said, the money scam. Yes. The control. But I said, it's not the biggest. There's something far bigger and more dangerous than the money scam. And that's the anti-human
Starting point is 00:13:22 scam yes because they're teaching little kids i start getting teary when i little kids in in school from three years onwards are taught that humans are greedy rapacious uncaring unkind irresponsible just don't give a damn and that is no way to introduce someone into the best species on the planet that is the worst yeah so so what they're doing is stifling what they're doing is stifling billions of people and cruelling their lives. We've got people running around committing suicide in their 15, 16, 17 because they think the world is going to end in a few years because of them. Right throughout history, the battle between control and freedom
Starting point is 00:14:06 exists within each of us. It's going on inside you. Correct. Freedom is shining stronger than control. But when we raise our children, we learn that we try to control. So it's in a relationship, it's in families and I think what divides protection, because you have to have protection, like you've got a son who's now 14, there have been times, especially when he was less conscious, when he was younger, where you had to exert physical force to stop him running out in the street. If your force was to grab his arm with punishment in mind, then that's a harmful intent. If your grasp was to bring him in to protect him, then that's a loving.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Yes. Okay, so you're trying to keep him free. So we also have freedom versus control in society. We have freedom versus control in governments. We have freedom versus control between nations, kind of trying to control each other. And I think what it goes back to is people who control are insecure. Yes. Very insecure.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Insecure, I would add to it, also lack self-love. Exactly. That's why they're insecure. So they're going against the universe because the universe, everything is free. Yes. And I don't mean no expense. Free will. I mean, it's free to go.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Yes. So when you start interfering with that, you're fighting the universe. So it's a miserable existence to try and control. Yes. But it takes a while to work that out. And it's like that, as you said, on the individual level, and then it grows to the collective level of nations, of communities, cities, you name it. We see it in Israel, right? Now we have war. And it's almost transparent to the people that they perpetuate the never-ending cycle of violence and hatred towards another group. and the powers that be are doing a magnificent job in keeping that in existence in Israel and
Starting point is 00:16:15 people don't see that not only that they have it in their lives that battle between freedom and control they also have it in as a collective and they're constantly looking for who's the next enemy that i should now hate or be violent towards um and they don't get that the path to resolving that starts with the individual if you don't do work to bring peace to yourself you can't do any peace with anyone around you exactly and because it does start and that's where i started by saying there's control versus freedom within each of us um but right throughout history Humans have tried to make their lives easier. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:00 That's not laziness. That's incredibly intelligent. Humans can think and we always focus on what we need. I'm talking about universal human needs, not superficial strategies for achieving those needs. But, for example, I need an easier life. Yes. It's natural in a child just a few years of age,
Starting point is 00:17:20 natural in a 92-year-old person. If I can spend less time doing the dishes, Because I've got more time doing stuff I enjoy or that's fun or that's productive. So we want to make life easier. So we can do that in many ways. I can do that by trying to dominate another human and get him to work for me. That's slave. And I'm not justifying slavery.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Slavery is actually a very low productivity. It destroys productivity in the society. So slavery is out. But we've used horses. We've used oxen. we've used various other animals as our energy and what we've done in the last 170 years and less than that 140 years is developed hydrocarbons and hydrocarbons coal oil and natural gas are just miracles that we have got slaves in our house that we turn on with a switch we've got
Starting point is 00:18:13 slaves in a car that we push petrol into and that's it and that has changed human life it's increased our lifespan it's increased our ease it's increased our ability to travel our choices our it's given us choices and work so I don't have to work in my little valley uh under a under a lord who's who's going to exploit me and control me I can move to another valley so to go to hell I could take a job somewhere else so it's given us every it's given us healthier safer longer lives And that is now what they're trying to stop. That's why – so I entered politics because I'm aware just what hydrocarbon fuels did, coal, oil and natural gas. And it's been remarkable.
Starting point is 00:18:58 It's been a miracle. We were scratching around in the dirt until about 170 years ago. The Industrial Revolution came and technology came, science came and then we started a middle class. Because up until the Industrial Revolution and the development of science, we scratched around in the dirt. The lord of the manor, he gave us a little bit of dirt to scratch a living out of. We fed our kids and the majority of the food we gave to him and he sold and made a lot more money.
Starting point is 00:19:28 That was feudalism. With the Industrial Revolution and the benefit of machines and hydrocarbon fuels, we started becoming more wealthy and we started producing things more cheaply. So we had the birth of the middle class. Yes. And all of a sudden the people in control lost control. And what's happening now is that they want us back in the bottle. They're trying to regain that control.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Right. So the other thing that happened was before the Industrial Revolution and one of the causes of the Industrial Revolution was the development of science. Until science came along, which was very objective and logical and data-driven, highly objective, the person with the biggest army, the person with the biggest wallet, the biggest economic power, the most property or the strongest religion, they told you what to do.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Science came along and said, no, we'll go with the data and we'll go with the logical argument, what's objective. And that liberated humans. So one of the things I got on to, having come from the coal industry, I knew the benefits. Everything in this room, everything is due to coal because it's either made of steel or it's made using steel. The food is planted with mechanical harvesters,
Starting point is 00:20:41 mechanical planters that are made of steel. The food is harvested with harvesters that are made of steel. Every bit of steel needs coal originally in it. So then it's transported, it's processed, it's kept in a refrigerator that's all got steel in it, all made from steel, everything. So when I was working in the mines, I started off as a coal miner at the face to get good experience and and then eventually i became a mine manager the only thing i got upset with mine is if they'd say i'm just a miner and i said don't say just because what you're doing
Starting point is 00:21:13 is you're earning export income for the country you're developing the steel you're developing the the the lights on at night we didn't have lights until coal and gas wow or we had we had uh whale oil so i heard this scam this fraud of climate change when was that uh it first came to my serious attention about 2006. I'd just spent 12 months overseas turning around a mine in New Zealand. And I came back and it was all a rage. And I started inquiring and I thought, this is rubbish. And then I thought, but I'll have a look at it. And so I looked at the science, because I'm an engineer, I implement science. So I've got a scientific mind. And a scientist is defined as someone who follows a scientific method, not someone with a qualification.
Starting point is 00:21:58 so anyway i started exploring it and i realized it was crap and then i thought who's little old me to say this is crap but i saw i studied it more and i found more other people who were awake as well and i also learned from my university studies from my technical college studies from working to get my statutory qualifications to manage mines i understood carbon dioxide and i understood it cannot create warmth you cannot create warmth with carbon dioxide which is what the story is so i thought this is crap then i started researching what was driving it and i went down the rabbit barn that said this is the united nations and i saw very strong he created climate fraud he actually created it for control then uh i went well what's driving the un
Starting point is 00:22:50 And that's where I found out about the major globalist bankers and those few families who control the banks. And then it was about the United Nations, the World Economic Forum, and so on. And what led you then to start to take that to the political arena? You found that that's the most effective way to make a difference or to change things? No, I jumped into it accidentally, Efrat. But I guess politics is not just for politicians in parliament. I didn't understand that at the time.
Starting point is 00:23:26 But I was speaking at rallies against the carbon dioxide tax. I was holding politicians accountable, which is a citizen's job. Yes. And it must happen. So I was holding them accountable, getting in their face sometimes, not violently. And I realized most of them were ignorant, completely ignorant, because they're so damn busy.
Starting point is 00:23:46 And a lot of them entered politics for the right reasons. Or some of them are just not very intelligent as well. I'd say that. Just stupid, ignorant, or gutless. Or gutless, yes. Yes, and that's the majority of them, stupid, ignorant, or gutless. So anyway, I realized that I had to take part in that campaign to try and educate these people.
Starting point is 00:24:05 I naively thought that if I give them the facts, they'll change their view. Yeah. No. It's not enough. So I went to the next step, which was I'll give you the facts and show that the reality, no, that's not. Not enough.
Starting point is 00:24:19 I'll give you the next step, the motives and the corruption driving it. Not interested in listening to that. They are interested but they quickly run away because it means a battle in parliament. So what I was doing was going around the country talking about it and Pauline Hanson heard me. She was the founder and leader of One Nation Party. She asked me to go on a forum with her and then one thing led to another
Starting point is 00:24:42 and she asked me to stand up in parliament. So I put my name in. I fluked it. I was very, very lucky to get in. It was only that the previous government called a double dissolution and dissolved every seat in the parliament. So I got in because the quota was smaller. But the second time around, I got in on a full quota.
Starting point is 00:25:02 And I heard that there are thousands of politicians in Australia. The political structure is there are many houses and in every state you have hundreds of politicians. and so in the whole country, the whole continent, you have thousands of politicians. We don't need so many, I want to say. You know, society does need rules. But quite often the rules are set like the road rules.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Yes. They're set for benefit of everyone because you reduce the variation. When you reduce the variation and you improve the consistency, you get more efficiency, you get more safety. So that's the basis of law. Laws are necessary, but the worst place to make laws is in a central parliament, a national parliament. That's the worst. The only things we should be dealing with in national parliament are foreign affairs, defense, maybe currency, issuing currency, maybe communications these days.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Not to censor, but just to the communication apparatus. I would doubt. Currency, I think, should be detached from state, but that's also another topic. In theory, probably the best form of currency would be locally developed currency. And if I like your currency, I'll use your currency rather than legislated by government. But let's accept currency just for now. There are very few things other than that. And our constitution followed in some ways many things from America.
Starting point is 00:26:25 And we were a very good amalgamation of Britain and America. And our constitution was set up as a federation of states. So the states came together, formed a federal government. And that federal government had limited powers. The Americans did the same because the Americans looked at Europe and saw central government, central government, central government, central bank, central bank, central bank, privately owned, controlling the government. So they didn't want central government, but they recognized they had to have a little bit of it. So they formed a structure of a federation, and most of the services from government were done by the state governments. And in America, they went further, and a lot of the services were done by the local government.
Starting point is 00:27:06 In this country, we did the state governments because our country is so low in population, so sparsely populated. And the state governments had most of the power, for example, education, hospitals, should be environment, several others. And then it becomes very difficult. The Americans realized also another thing. It becomes very difficult then for a foreign power to take over a country through the government because they have to infect six states and a federal government. And you can't do that. And so when you've got competitive federalism in our country, if one state does a marvelous job, people move to that state, so the other states have to improve as well. So we've actually got a marketplace in governance, which is phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yes, it's great. You think about that. Yes. But bit by bit over the years, the central government has taken more and more power, and it's done two things. One is it's destroyed the competitive federalism so the states don't have to compete. It's destroyed accountability because the states, when something goes wrong, say it's the federal government's fault. And the federal government say it's the state government's fault. And you've also then got duplication because there's not one school that's run by the federal government, but there are 4,000 bureaucrats in Canberra in the Department of Education.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Wow. And if the World Health Organization or the National Curriculum is a way for the United Nations to destroy children because they have a central curriculum. They bring it down to Canberra and off you go. That's it. Mm-hmm. So that's how the globalists get in, central government. That's why it's easy for them in Europe. It would have been harder in America and would have been harder in Australia,
Starting point is 00:28:42 but over the last 80 years in Australia, we've become more centralized. I want to ask how is it possible to take back this power from the federal government? You need to fire all these bureaucrats. But how – does the Constitution say anything about that? No, it doesn't. But it's simple but it's difficult. The simplicity is the people have to take charge again.
Starting point is 00:29:14 The difficulty is that the people have been – we've had it too easy and we've fallen asleep and we're not holding the politicians accountable. So when I say we the people should be holding politicians accountable, we have the ultimate with a vote. Yes. What's happened is the media is controlled by the globalists and the globalists control both the main parties. People think there's opposition, but there's no opposition in this country. There's limited opposition because both the main parties have almost identical policies.
Starting point is 00:29:43 So people think that the Labor Party pushed most of the climate fraud. They're wrong. Every major policy, every major legislation to do with the climate and with energy was introduced by the so-called conservatives, the liberals. The Labor Party, when it comes in, ramps it up and entrenches it. Every single major piece of legislation. The most destructive prime minister we have ever had was a liberal who was known as Honest Johnny. And he was supporting states' rights and the Constitution and property rights. He destroyed all of them.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Wow. And then six years after he got booted from politics, after implementing all of the destructions of our energy system, Six years later, he said, on the topic of climate science, I'm agnostic. He didn't have the science. I'm agnostic. It's another way of saying. I haven't got the science. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:38 I don't know. So it comes back to the people, but we've got to, first of all, wake up the people. That's why my job is about not insulting people, but telling the truth. Yes. Because it's very, very important. Because I'm not just working for Queensland. I'm working for Australia, and I'm also working for the world. You are.
Starting point is 00:30:55 And so are you. Well, yeah, I try. It's happening that more and more people like me, you know, the simple people just take the responsibility and decide to be the voice. It's so important. People just don't understand how important it is to continue doing that. Why do you say simple people? I'm not criticizing. I agree with you, but I'd like to know why.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Because I don't see myself as anything special. Right. I'm just one more person that sees the world for what it is, completely used and abused. And I want to live a good life and I want my son to have a good life. It's all very simple. And I also want people to stop being victims in their own lives and start being sovereign and free. And for that, they have to move their asses out of their sofas and stop watching Netflix all day and start listening to the inconvenient truths. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:53 And it's simple because I live a simple life. I'm a simple person. I'm just taking responsibility and I'm not being stopped by fear. Right. And if you look at the Japanese manufacturing miracle, the key to that was simplicity. The key to modern manufacturing is making things simple. Yeah. And so the word simple is beautiful.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Yeah. But it also comes into another form. My son, okay, he's very bright. He did first year university. We told him, my wife and I have both been to the top schools in the world. Yeah. All right. But my best education was working as a coal face miner.
Starting point is 00:32:34 That's just the truth. Yes. So, when I went to the University of Chicago, which is one of the top three business schools in the world, they've got more Nobel Prize winners for economics and finance than any other college in the world, anyone. They didn't tell me where money is made. They didn't tell me that it's created out of thin air. They didn't tell me. I don't think the professors knew. So, anyway, we're talking about simplicity.
Starting point is 00:33:02 so we said to them both our kids we said to them do not go to university unless you need a piece of paper like a doctor's qualification or accounting or engineering don't go there because they corrupt your mind especially the last 40 years or so it's really insidious my wife recently read of a study in america where the americans who are woke have been through university and they can't think so universities these days teach you what to think not how to think yes so my son went to first year and he did always want to did first year and he wanted to study aviation he already had his pilot's license he studied aviation and he realized at the end of first year this is not for him the only reason he wanted a degree was because americans require a
Starting point is 00:33:48 degree over there for pilots so he said no i'll stop this so he went out and he started doing the basics of engineering and then he got a job in an american company as an intern and he was so good that they hired him and then when covid struck he came down here and then he decided i think i will go back to engineering and do engineering and so he did first year engineering and he did really well then they brought in the injection mandate and this is the point of the story and he said to hell with your injection mandate i mean he went to um to to one of the top universities of engineering in this country, he was being educated by a trans person who was so confused and telling him
Starting point is 00:34:31 to get the injections because, you know, they'll be in place for 10 years. They were out of the place in three months. Yeah. So he said to hell with this, went out and got a job in construction, operating equipment. Well done. And he turned up and he said, do you wear masks around here?
Starting point is 00:34:48 I was going to say something starting with F, but bugger off. what about injections gotta be injected bugger off great the simple people exactly they're focused they haven't had their minds corrupted by a university i'm with you i see during the last three four years that's the circle that i come from all the tech industry the very highly educated people the more educated they are the more indoctrinated they are yes it's very hard in My community, the tech industry in Israel and the startup scene, people were heavily indoctrinated, very similar to the universities in the United States, for example, or the tech companies in the United States. And I was like your son, like bugger off with your jabs. I'm not taking it.
Starting point is 00:35:37 I'm not doing it. You're not going to make me. And I'm a chief marketing officer in a global company and all the 250 employees are all taking the jabs, are all very happy about it. And I'm the only one standing up saying, sorry, no, not playing that game. And I stayed there. They appreciated me and they accepted me with my values and my principles. And I was lucky to be in a place where it was not mandatory. I don't think you would have taken it if it was mandatory
Starting point is 00:36:09 no of course I would have left they knew I told them I told them that the day actually I came and I said the day you're going to ask me for papers for a green pass to show because it could be a PCR test it doesn't have to be an injection
Starting point is 00:36:24 you can do a PCR test and get a green pass every few days or every week there were stupid things like that during that time I said you're not going to ask me for my papers I'm not going to show you any papers. Gee, that's a powerful statement in Israel. It's a powerful statement in Israel.
Starting point is 00:36:39 You know, my grandparents had to show papers in Europe in the 40s. That's what I meant. That's a very powerful statement in Israel. Because it is the same. I told them, this is a workplace. Our relationship is of an employee and an employer. I come here to do my work the best possible way I can so that your company is doing well. And that's where the relationship ends.
Starting point is 00:37:03 you do not have the right to tell me what to do with my body it has nothing to do and with my private life it has nothing to do with you if i choose to be religious to dress up a certain way to put stuff in my body or not this is none of your business you're my employer you're not my you're not me so long as you're not negatively affecting another person's health exactly And I wasn't. No. What I mean there, I want to be very, very jump right in there. If you're wearing something that's bouncing and hitting people,
Starting point is 00:37:38 that's a health hazard. But if you're not taking an injection, that's not a health hazard. No. Because what they've done with this is just straight bullshit. Especially when we're talking about a product that was in the market for a few months and no one knows what the repercussions of this product are. But it's safe and effective. We all know it's not.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Okay. We talked about your awakening journey, but you said it started in 2006. And the first things you were exposed to were climate? Climate fraud. Climate crisis, global warming, hoax. Now, don't use their language. It's not a climate crisis. It's very important.
Starting point is 00:38:19 I always say it as a, yeah, it's bullshit, of course. There is no emergence. It's climate fraud. Climate fraud. Because I won't use their language. So share your stand or some of your actions on that topic. Well, I wrote to politicians holding them accountable. I wrote to the CSIRO, the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization.
Starting point is 00:38:40 It's the government's advisory body on climate. So I held them accountable with letters saying, give me your report. They couldn't provide anything. Give me the evidence. and when i say evidence science the objectivity that comes from science is having hard data observations measurements objective measurements but more than that it's data within a framework that says you do this you have this effect this causes this so you have hard data that proves cause and effect that's science so that's what i was looking for and no one could provide it
Starting point is 00:39:15 So that was from the CSIRO, did freedom of information requests, wrote letters to them, had discussions with them. Same with the Bureau of Meteorology supposedly providing the data. It is an important detail. The temperatures in Australia in the 1880s and 1890s were warmer than today. Then they dropped dramatically to 1910. That was the coldest period. Then they started increasing gradually, all natural, until 1930s, 40s. Then they were on a 40-year decrease until 1976.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Then we had a sudden jump up, entirely natural, the Great Pacific climate shift. Around about that time, they were saying the world is going to end pretty soon due to catastrophic global freezing due to, wait for it, hydrocarbon fuels. So they were after attacks and a little bit of more warmth, natural, all natural, took them to 1980. So the Bureau of Meteorology, if you look at the graph from 1880 to 1890, today's temperatures are lower. Yes. But if you stop the graph at 1910,
Starting point is 00:40:25 which is when they released their measurements from, it shows an upward trend. But most of that upward trend was up until the 1930s before massive industrialisation. Since 1995, roughly, it's been flat. It's so slightly increasing. It depends which year you start and finish. So the Bureau of Meteorology has cooked the figures
Starting point is 00:40:47 using what they call homogenisation. It's a bullshit thing. So what they do is if some of the temperatures, Rutherglen in Victoria is actually on a decrease. What they've done is they've warmed the latest temperatures and cooled the previous temperatures and transformed a decreasing temperature into an increasing temperature. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:41:04 They just changed the data? Yes. Yes. Tinkering with the data. Yes. So the Bureau of Meteorology is guilty of that. So I held them accountable. Then when I got into Parliament,
Starting point is 00:41:16 I'm not going to brag with what I'm about to say, but it's important to make a point. Professor Tim Ball, I think he was the world's best climatologist. He was a Canadian. He died. He said, I'm the only politician anywhere in the world, any Congress, any parliament, who has held the government science agency accountable on climate. Now, I'm not saying that to say, give me a medal.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I'm saying that because that's the way politics works. They don't dare question the experts. And I'll give you a story. There was a wonderful senator from North Queensland. He was in the Liberal Party, but he was a sceptic. And I was holding the minister accountable for science and the chief scientist. And the senator came and sat down next to me as I was finishing my question. And he said, that's what I love about having you in the Senate.
Starting point is 00:42:05 They give you bullshit and you bash it right back at them. Because politicians are afraid of being seen as stupid or ignorant. So they won't ask challenging questions. So not one major politician anywhere in the country, they've asked them in Senate estimates hearings, that kind of thing. But no one has pursued the CSIRO or NOAA in America or NASA's GISS in America or the UK Met Office anywhere. No one. So they've never been put under scrutiny.
Starting point is 00:42:33 So they've got away with their lies. It's a really simple way the globalists use it. They just spread the bullshit, bury people in bullshit, and that's it. So the CSIRO, I've held them accountable in Senate estimates. I've also held them accountable when I first got into Senate. The very first thing I did was write to the CSIRO and say I want a presentation and I want the logical scientific points. And it took a while.
Starting point is 00:42:59 It took me several weeks to chase them down because they didn't want to do it. And then they got into a two-and-a-half-hour session with me in Sydney Airport and put on a proper presentation. And in that, we let them talk. They didn't want to record it. Okay. But we did. And we told them we were.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Okay. Okay. So they agreed. They were very apprehensive about it, but we recorded it. So then during that session, I asked them, so what is there about the last 2,000 years that says there's a pending danger? And they said, we've never said danger. And I said, well, who has said there's a danger from climate?
Starting point is 00:43:39 And they said, you better ask the minister that. In other words, it's a political construct. So the second two and a half hours we had with these people, and remember this has never been done before, we challenged them on some of their temperature measurements and they looked at me and I was about this far away from the team leader of the climate science group for this country and he said, today's temperatures are not unprecedented.
Starting point is 00:44:06 There's no global warming. This is after 40 years of research into climate supposedly. We asked them for any evidence they wanted to give us. They gave us one paper on carbon dioxide. and one paper on temperatures. The paper on temperatures, the author himself said, was not robust for the 20th century. Wow.
Starting point is 00:44:26 We pointed this out. They didn't even know it. So how do you break that narrative? Well, with the COVID narrative, the data is there. But the politicians from both sides of both major parties don't want it exposed. With the climate, both parties don't want it exposed. So that's very, very hard.
Starting point is 00:44:47 We've just got to keep going until we get up like a snowball. So it has to come from the bottom. It has to come from the people. Right. But with climate science, the people have been indoctrinated with bullshit. David Pocock is a senator. He cited science the other day by saying, I've got a list here of so many professors who are afraid of what's going to happen in climate.
Starting point is 00:45:15 No data. No data at all, but that's science to David Pocop. That is science to a lot of people out there. The mainstream media, the mouthpiece media says, the majority of scientists say that. The majority of scientists is bullshit. So what we've got to do is eventually get this out. I had a very good off-sider who helped me in the Galileo movement
Starting point is 00:45:35 when we were exposing this before I got into the Senate. He said to me, just looked at me one day and said, you know, we're not going to get anywhere until it hurts the people. What you're seeing now in this country, I don't know how often you come here, but people are starting to hurt because of the energy policies driven by the climate policies, all lies, by Chris Bowen, the energy minister, by the previous energy minister, all lies. And people are now starting to get upset about the transmission lines.
Starting point is 00:46:06 See, with a coal-fired power station, you only need one transmission line. Yes. With solar and wind that are scattered over many, many different regions of the country, you need lots of power lines. Those power lines are tearing up national parks. They're tearing up farming. They're tearing up communities. And they're saying, go to hell. We don't want them.
Starting point is 00:46:24 So now people are starting to kick up a fuss. Wind turbines are hugely damaging on the environment. Solar panels are hugely damaging on the environment. But the biggest component of all is the huge increase in cost. And what's going to really hit soon is we're going to have outages. blackouts so the answer to your question is not until the people won't won't stand up until they're really paying the price yeah yeah i was in that that may encourage you i was in dalesford in new years and there was a parade and um with the locals the farmers the truckers whoever was in
Starting point is 00:47:02 the Dalesford area, and they had one truck with a massive sign saying F net zero, and you're, yes, that was in Dalesford, in Victoria. So I was very happy to see that. It was very cool. It's coming, and what we're doing now. They're feeling it. I'm sure they're feeling the pressure. But many people don't realize where it's coming from.
Starting point is 00:47:24 The message is starting to get through that it is net zero. What we're trying to do now is connect UN World Economic Forum to net zero because that's where the policies have come from. That's the root source. I have a very good friend. He's 85 years of age. He's been a very strong freedom fighter for probably 64 years. He recently won an award.
Starting point is 00:47:48 He was recognized. He formed a political party to try and fight for freedom. His writing goes all over the world. He's a very, very good man, a very strong man. What's his name? I won't tell you his name because I'm about to embarrass him. Okay. This is unlike him.
Starting point is 00:48:03 So I got into the Senate. Yes. And he knew about Agenda 21. He called me up. He never gives advice because he doesn't take advice. He always relies upon his own research. And he said, just don't say Agenda 21. Don't say it in Parliament.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Yeah. Why? Because he was afraid I'd be denigrated and ridiculed and that would destroy my effectiveness on the climate. My first speech. You said it. We need to, on our exit, get out of the UN. And I think I mentioned Agenda 21.
Starting point is 00:48:37 I certainly mentioned it a lot. I have enormous respect for that man. But he is a strong man, highly regarded by many, many people around the world, saying, watch what you say. So he's afraid to speak out. Afraid of the consequences. He's afraid of the consequences in terms of destroying credibility. But what I did was jump right in and then the media would call me and say you're basically – they'd call me out in public and say you're basically that idiot that believes this is an attempt at global control.
Starting point is 00:49:11 I said yes, next question. And they realized they couldn't intimidate me into backing down. So they give up on it. It's so easy if you just tell the truth. Yes. Yes, the other day someone sent me an article from April 2020, just when COVID started, a month after COVID started, where I collected different technologies coming out of Israel during the beginning of COVID, like health technologies and different things like that. I wasn't awake to the lie of COVID back then. And I added to that list.
Starting point is 00:49:50 It's a list I made of different technologies coming out of Israel. And one of them was this kiosk for PCR tests that was made by my parents' factory. And here I am looking at it now. It looks to me like the biggest joke. PCR tests are a lie. These kiosks were made to get people to feel more separate and more afraid so that they wouldn't infect someone because they're a danger to society. Here I am experiencing all those lies on myself during the years to come. And when I wrote it, I didn't know anything.
Starting point is 00:50:27 So I wrote it and someone just put it and sent it to me and said, you're controlled opposition. Look what you put on April 2020. and i looked back and i said i did i i wrote that i did write this because it was before i even saw the lies i didn't deny it i didn't try to make another lie on top of it i said the truth yes i wrote it i didn't know anything back then and i learned and i knew how manipulated i was to think that that would be good now i think that that was funny that was hoax and you know sometimes just saying the truth is so liberating it's so so easy and they've got nothing else on me no because if i continue lying or invent something else and try to justify it or whatever it would just go on and
Starting point is 00:51:14 on and on and it just stopped there when i said yes i did i wrote that well that that's it's the same with me because if i make a mistake i say i've just made a mistake or if i if i don't know something i'll say i don't know it but here's my view so far yeah and people think well how can you embarrass him you can't because because you can't catch him out that way if you just tell the truth but we all make our mistakes because in the early days of covid when it arrived in this country it had we saw the videos from italy the videos from china the videos from france the videos from spain the videos from greece he's very convincing thousands of people laid low in coffins in the street you know and then four years later you see one of the sheets under the coffin lift out and
Starting point is 00:51:57 get a smoke, and put the sheet back down. So we were lied to. We were lied to. We were manipulated. I've not had the COVID injections, and I won't. There's no way I will. I've spoken out against them right from the start because of the informed consent, bodily autonomy. That's sacrosanct to me.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Of course. There's one thing to do with censoring what you say, but to force something into your body, that's just that's just inhuman that's next to force you to take this so that you can keep your job so that your child can eat that's horrible that is just that that's nazi stuff that's evil so so i remember saying early on the very we had this one day session in the parliament everyone came down wore masks you know and all this kind of stuff all part of the and that's what helped me realize the masks were a form of control to keep you afraid. Yes. Remind you of this evil bogey. So anyway, we had to assume, because we're responsible, even though I'm not in the government,
Starting point is 00:53:02 we're responsible ultimately for what happens in the country by holding the government accountable. So I said in parliament, we don't have the data. We can see what's happening overseas. Therefore, we give the government a blank check. Get on with the job. It's like a war. If you're being invaded, you give the government all the power it needs and just get on with it. But I said very soon after, we are wanting the data. We're wanting a plan. We will hold you accountable. Have a look at Taiwan. They're managing really well. And have a look at ivermectin and promising results in Melbourne University. And they did none of that. So then within three months, I started writing to them saying, where's your data? I got bullshit back, complete crap. And then in Senate estimates in
Starting point is 00:53:49 2021 in March, the chief medical officer gave me the evidence. I wanted to know how strong this virus was. And I wanted to know how strong it was in absolute terms, but also in relative to past flus. And the diagram he gave me was a very, very good diagram. It showed that COVID was less severe than some past flus. So here it is, it's out in the open. When you think about that, not only is it less severe than some past flus, it's only striking the elderly. So that meant for the vast majority of Australians, it was nothing. But they locked up the country. And then you started learning about other things and then we started putting it all together and that's why i said and now we had an inquiry yes march 2022 we ran that as our own inquiry got experts from all over
Starting point is 00:54:44 the world and then we did it again the second one in 2020 22 and in august what was the purpose of the inquiry put the facts out in the open because the government wouldn't i wrote to the premier of my state i wrote to the prime minister they were just giving us lies so to document basically yeah Other opinions and other facts and data and show it to the public. Our country is a civilized country. This is the first time they withdrew a proven, safe, effective, affordable, accessible treatment, ivermectin. They withdrew it. You don't do that to people.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Made it illegal. And then this is the first time they made a lethal, untested, unproven drug mandatory. Yes. So that you could feed your children. Unheard of. You're taking me to COVID, so I'm going to continue with my questions on COVID for you. Do you think the Australian government now is suppressing COVID adverse reactions and deaths? Without a doubt, yes.
Starting point is 00:55:48 They know? Yes. They can't not know. They're either incredibly stupid. The excess death number are there. Yeah. The Australian Bureau of Statistics is our statistical agency. It shows, its own figures now show around about 26,000 deaths, excess deaths for 2022. And no one is asking why. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:56:13 We've been asking why. Now that to me shows that they don't care. They'd rather have this ongoing deaths continue. So they've done several things. Doctors are supposed to report adverse effects. Doctors are supposed to report deaths from the injections. The ARPA, Australian Health Practitioners Regulatory Agency, is deliberately suppressing doctors, putting the fear of doctors so they don't report. They're making it difficult to report because it takes quite a bit of time and doctors are busy. So it's highly under-reported. We know that from America as well. They've done studies. Some people say as little as 1% of adverse events get reported. In the VAERS database, yes.
Starting point is 00:56:59 At the most, it's 10%. What we've had is, and doctors have a legal duty in this country to put down the cause of death on the death certificate. The doctor does the death certificate. So that we've had very few reports that are accurate because the doctors are afraid. And some of them have lost their registration for nothing. And then other doctors then become afraid of losing their livelihood so so we've had a minimal reporting but of those that have been reported more than a thousand deaths due to the injections that has been fine-tuned down to 14 oh my god 14 and there's no objective criteria that they assess it against so 14 deaths 14 is enough to stop the injections but a thousand and 60 or whatever it's up to now
Starting point is 00:57:48 and then you look at the reporting no one is doing this and then you look at the excess deaths dr peter parry and dr peter rhodes wrote a paper recently australia is either the only country or one of only two countries where they had a covid i don't use the word pandemic because there's no pandemic of deaths covid they had covid and they had a number of deaths due to covid when that finished they had the real spike in deaths that was a pandemic of vaccination pandemic of injections so we had COVID first then we had the injections so you can tell I'm getting a bit angry about this because they're killing people they're killing tens of thousands of people but worse than that they are saying they don't know so if you're a doctor if you're a health official if you're a
Starting point is 00:58:33 bureaucrat your duty is to find out what is killing these 36 these 26,000 plus people so what are you guys doing about it what happened was we've been calling for a royal commission for years now yes we also want a senate inquiry because a senate inquiry can compel witnesses to attend and also a royal commission is the terms of reference are framed by the prime minister so it can be a whitewash before the current prime minister got into power in the election campaign he said i promise a royal commission or something similar oh no right but the intent was something really serious. So government manager of government business in the Senate is Senator Katie Gallagher. She's pretty senior. She was the chairman of the committee that was investigating
Starting point is 00:59:26 COVID as it was unfolding. One of her committee's recommendations was a Royal Commission. So a senior minister in the Labor Party has also recommended that. So Anthony Albanese recently, about September, October last year, said, I'm not going to hold a commission. I'm going to hold an inquiry. And the inquiry's terms of reference were just a whitewash. Nothing to do with investigating the state premiers who did most of the enforcement, just a witch hunt on the prime minister.
Starting point is 00:59:59 So it's not independent. It's pathetic. But what it did do was by that time, the injections had been in place two years. Yes. we know a lot of people now even though they took the injections voluntarily know of people who've died from them so the word is out when they were when they saw the Prime Minister renege on his promise for a COVID Royal Commission they were horrified
Starting point is 01:00:25 they were upset so then what we did was move a referral to a committee to develop the draft terms of reference for a future possible Royal Commission okay so what that does first of all the Greens and Pocock and Lambie and the Labor Party usually oppose something like that they want to cover it up but they knew what would happen because I would call for a vote in a division so you'd get a photo of who voted against it so we could sense that the people had turned People were disgusted, even members of the Labor Party and the Senate. And so they weren't game to oppose it. And so it got through.
Starting point is 01:01:12 So what that enables them to do is to get submissions from citizens, from specialists, from scientists, from doctors, COVID-injected, anyone in the country, and also from overseas, and put in submissions and then invite them, select people to come and give their testimony. What it's done is it's set up a kind of an inquiry so we have experts saying these are the negative things that happened so there's no alternative but to hold a proper royal commission. That's what we're doing.
Starting point is 01:01:45 We're setting it up. We've got former barrister Julian Gillespie, Dr Ian Brighthope, Peter Pham, a lawyer, and other doctors have clubbed together and done a phenomenal submission. So what we're hoping, the government apparently is saying to some of its departments, make a submission. And what they're trying to do is to clog up
Starting point is 01:02:07 so we have very few witnesses from the truthful side appearing. But what I think will happen is they will just show that there's a need for more sessions of witnesses. So who knows? And you're saying we're a civilized country And still during COVID, it wasn't very civil. The sites that were coming out of Australia, which maybe some of them were staged. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Maybe they wanted some of those sites to come out of really brutal police violence against protesters or different things that have happened, especially in Victoria, which was locked down massively. Shooting. Shooting of rubber bullets, right? All the Victorians I met, they all talk about it. They're traumatized by it. It was completely unusual, right? Oh, dramatically. But do you know what saved it?
Starting point is 01:03:04 What? There's a union called the CFMEU. What is that? The Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy, Maritime and Energy Union. They're known to be fairly militant. Okay. um but in some of the militant unions there's a strong rump of decent people some of the union some of the large union bosses are in it for their own agendas not some of the union bosses
Starting point is 01:03:31 are known to be thugs accused of being thugs in the press in courts um so there's a fair bit of data about it most of the construction workers of course just don't care about that kind of stuff they're just happy to just go along do their work and go home they were they were under threat of being mandated the construction workers from the most militant union in the country marched on the cfmeu headquarters in melbourne and trashed it i saw it that was what woke people up because what happened was that the membership of the cfmeu rose against the bosses of the cfmeu who pay a lot of money to the labor government in victoria and the labor government victoria was doing all of the anti-human terrorist work.
Starting point is 01:04:15 And so they got a very good lesson and they stopped doing a lot of what they were doing from that moment on. So I almost feel like certain countries played a certain role during this COVID charade the past few years. Israel obviously had a role in being the medical lab of the world in providing data to agencies, federal agencies around the world that needed that data in order to say that this was safe and effective. But Australia, I think, had a social role,
Starting point is 01:04:48 like in a way showing that the people are obedient, they become obedient when force is being exercised. Also ratting on each other, like people were dubbing each other. Dub someone in this country. Different behaviors that came out of here that I think in a way someone was kind of experimenting on the population, a social experiment. And then someone told me that it just strengthened what I thought, that Monash University has a running social experiment from 2020. And she sent me an article about it, about the behavior during COVID. That leads me to think that maybe there is some kind of an experiment here to see how the society is behaving, because we know that the World Economic Forum and people like Yuval Noah Harari are saying, it's written on the website, by the way, that COVID was just the jumpstart to see how humanity will take on extreme measures when an emergency happens.
Starting point is 01:05:57 so that it can prepare us for future emergencies that will happen, all very conveniently. So do you think that Australia played a certain role here and Australians have played a role without knowing it? Yes. The answer to your first question is yes and the answer to your second question is yes. But take in a bigger picture and divert for a minute.
Starting point is 01:06:22 These bastards, the parasitic, predatory globalists, they have quite often told us exactly what they're doing you just have to listen to them they always say yes marie strong who cooked up fraudulent climate claims yes he's the father of climate change he said he had two aims in life one was to be put in place an unelected socialist global governance he said that he said that the other one was to de-industrialize western civilization and he said um what we need is to end industrialization and isn't it our duty to do that where have we come in the last 170 years this computer this technology you can you can fly into the country all of our improved health until big pharma came along and all the longevity the
Starting point is 01:07:19 The choices we have, the productivity, the ease, the safety, the security, they want to destroy that, send us back to the caves. These people are that way inclined. So once you understand that and you understand the critical role of the World Health Organization, how can I forget Tedros, a known terrorist presiding over an organization in which 83 people have filed complaints for sexual abuse and rape. They did their own internal investigation.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Even their own internal investigation found those claims were verified. And they said, if you don't do anything about it, you will be, what was their word, rapist culture, culture of rape. They didn't do anything about it. Then you've got people like Bill Gates, who funds the World Health Organization. And you've got Fauci, who's a genocidal maniac. Fauci has killed thousands of black Africans doing experiments. he's killed american kids doing experiments they picked on foster kids to do experiments robert kennedy's book um the real anthony fauci marvelous that's the sort of people who are
Starting point is 01:08:27 running the world health organization the world health organization the united nations marie strong he he set up the united nations environmental program he manipulated the un to get the united nations environmental program going and guess who was the first secretary general of the united nation environmental program marie strong without the science and contrary to the science the director of the american epa was given a report saying there is no we did we just done an investigation into the ddt insecticide there is no environmental impact or human impact from ddt yet they still ban ddt and as a result of that ban that was driven by the united nation environmental program 40 to 50 million people died needlessly because it would have stopped
Starting point is 01:09:10 malaria in Africa and in India. We talk about Mao Tse Tung, 60 million deaths. Well, insert in there Maurice Strong, 40 to 50 million deaths. Then Joseph Stalin, 40 million. Hitler, 20 million. Maurice Strong is responsible for killing 40 to 50 million people who otherwise should have been alive. And the recent numbers coming out of the COVID conference in Romania talked about 17 million deaths from COVID. No, no, from the injections. Sorry, from the injections, from the COVID vaccines.
Starting point is 01:09:46 There's no... So once you understand that, and you understand that Bill Gates was an investor in... WHO. Well, not only that he's an investor in Gavi, but he was also an investor in the COVID injections.
Starting point is 01:10:02 The pharma, yeah. This was not planned over three months. Such bad decisions weren't made in just three months of panic. We then learned fairly recently that in 2007, the United States, Britain and Canada signed the Defence Countermeasures Consortium. And that was the defence working with the health authorities. In 2008 or 2009, Australia joined with Julia Gillard as Prime Minister, signed us on. That gave the military the opportunity to jump in. So we had troops on the streets in this country. We had troops on the streets in other countries as well. But we also know, you probably know from Sasha Lada-Pova in the United States,
Starting point is 01:10:43 that the COVID injections were not tested. And we know that's been admitted here in this country too. They were not tested and they got approval because they were defense countermeasures. So this was orchestrated. We know that they had been 201 in 2019. We also know that they had And Inoculation Handbook just tossed out, not even followed. Inoculation Handbook said you don't medicate anyone without informed consent. Same playbook in Israel. We had the same thing. We had a drill for a pandemic emergency and it was thrown out the window.
Starting point is 01:11:21 WHO guidelines were embraced. Right. The health minister at the time, Greg Hunt, he was previously the environment minister. he's the one who brought in the safeguard mechanism which is the foundations for global warming carbon dioxide tax for the globalists what is safeguard mechanism oh it's a nice name for basically the basis of a tax okay it's bullshit then we see chris bowen bring it in under the labor party just recently so they've ramped it up okay so what i'm saying is that greg hunt was the health minister under Scott Morrison
Starting point is 01:12:00 who introduced this untested injection. He even said, we are engaged in the world's largest clinical vaccination trial. Greg Hunt, in the years 2000 and 2001, was manager for strategy for the World Economic Forum. Surprise, surprise. And what's his name? Klaus Schwab.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Klaus Schwab. Bless you. He has admitted, he's taken pride in saying we have infected or infiltrated cabinets around the world. And we know that there's one lady here in Australia, Claire O'Neill, who's admitted to being a World Economic Foundation global young leader. Young leader. Yes, they're everywhere. So it was planned. Australia has announced some kind of a compensation plan for people who were vaccine injured.
Starting point is 01:12:52 there was something like that but was it just another wash yes hardly anyone is receiving money correct right correct and the amounts for being paralyzed for the rest of your life pretty trivial they're low and it's very hard to get unbelievable and and we indemnified that drug companies, Pfizer, Moderna, form any adverse events. We indemnify them. It's the people's responsibility. It's on them. They can't sue anyone.
Starting point is 01:13:25 The people are paying for it. With their tax money. But what they've done is they've made it very difficult to get so that the amount is not high. Okay. They've limited the liability. So I ask this question quite often. Who pays?
Starting point is 01:13:41 Yes. The people pay twice. The people pay through their taxes for indemnifying Pfizer. They actually pay three times. People pay the largest transfer of wealth in Australia's history, $8 billion plus to these bastards making these untested injections. And the people pay with their lives for taking this shit. Now, if you had a bureaucrat who cared, they would open up,
Starting point is 01:14:06 but they don't care because they're so damn afraid. It comes back to this, how we talked right from the start. comes back to this admitting that mistake control versus freedom they're controlling themselves these people don't look healthy they're not never admitted no so that's why we've got to drag it through them and then what they're doing is they're adding on to those people who were hurt and speaking out or people who are awake and speaking out or people that are just questioning and speaking out they're adding all these censorship rules and legislations this is happening to in australia right it happened not only is it happening about to happen or they're
Starting point is 01:14:46 about to introduce legislation it happened the department of home affairs which is like our major security organization it's it's a big organization it looks after immigration and all kinds of things borders they were passing on from the health department notification to to facebook maybe instagram big tech and so big tech would take down content the health department did it directly at times how directly they just went straight they bypassed home affairs and went straight to the platform so the censorship's already there now what they're looking at was during covid during covid yep they also arrested some people for posting stuff yes a lady pregnant lady down in melbourne she was wanting to facilitate more people going to the protest
Starting point is 01:15:35 yes so she posted and the police came and and assaulted her and removed her took a pregnant lady unbelievable they knocked uh old grannies down to the ground they knocked slammed a man's head into the platform concrete platform do you think those were just tactics to get people to just scare them off so that they don't try and resist or do you think it's legit like that's how they they were there's an irony here because what they use is fear to control people and they use fear to suppress people and when you see that it's it's it's scary it's highly effective and they but they also use it in many many ways they show pictures on on the tv that we now know were orchestrated of thousands of dead bodies in the street uh they hype it up they play dramatic music
Starting point is 01:16:22 they use language uh they say oh this covid is a real killer it was repetition yes same messaging right and and the mask the mask every time you saw someone with a mask on you were reminded of covid you're reminded of the fear it's bullshit masks are not effective and there's nothing about covid that required a mask even if it was effective of course so it's all indoctrination But the other thing they're doing, we've got to be careful about it, Fred, is that what they're also using is they're packaging things as being convenient. So not on COVID, but on cashless society. Yes. Because if they get a cashless society in here, then they can get a social income, then they can get control of your income.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Yes. And they will then say, if you keep posting these podcasts, young lady, you are not going to get your social credit. That's right. And it's already happening in terms of some of the carbon dioxide outputs of some cars. The personal carbon allowances, checking how much carbon you're emitting. And now in France, they've actually had one, a climate lockdown. You can't go outside because it's hot. Yes.
Starting point is 01:17:35 They'll tell you if to go outside or not. They tried doing it in Israel. It was very funny. We all laughed at it. They can't really, they won't get away with it. But how is the media in Australia acting now? It's all bought. There is some independent media.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Well, I've got to give a shout out to Adam Crichton. Do you know him? No. Wonderful young journalist. He's a true journalist. He's very, very strong on fact. He doesn't have opinions. He doesn't make his opinions felt, I should say, in the story.
Starting point is 01:18:10 He's very objective. He wrote an article on December 19th discussing the Texas state government's suit on Pfizer, taking Pfizer to court. Really well done. Good. Really well done. So I must say that I got his article and you can't post the whole article. It's too long and links don't work because it's beyond a paywall. Yes.
Starting point is 01:18:35 so um so i broke it up into into lengths that fit on facebook right because we use hootsuite to get it on facebook and so i started copying and pasting clipping clipping thank you clipping the article and i found out i was clipping every paragraph it was so good it was so good so i put it in in five installments yes and it was just wonderful and normally if you do i've done that once before the first first article you think people get oh yeah we really like this and you get lots of thousands of likes you know second one hang on this is what you did yesterday hundreds of likes then it dwindled right down this one got a large number of likes every single episode his article was just packed with data about Pfizer wonderful yeah and so that's that's
Starting point is 01:19:23 a credit to News Corp but News Corp was also um I know from a producer of a show on Sky News that my name was on a list of people not to appear on Sky News. Still? I don't know if it's still. Are you censored there? They wouldn't invite you? I haven't been on. No.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Wow. And it happened because… But Sky News is relatively open. In the evenings it is, but not during the day. It's pretty much left-wing during the day. There are many ways of censoring people. Yes. The very first time I got into the Senate,
Starting point is 01:19:59 the abc the australian broadcasting corporation has three flagship programs and i was in all three in my first few days in in the senate completely new to media and they set it up so that i would fail or be embarrassed but i had my data and i could rebut them so then they didn't have me on very often or they would have me on and they would pre-record it so they get selectively edited of course so then pauline and i said we're not appearing unless it's live great so but then then they set up programs in such a way that uh you're in the negative q and a for example question and answer show um they screen the audience so that the majority of the audience are on the government's view they screen the audience so that the the ones who are the
Starting point is 01:20:46 government's view sit behind this the speaker so that when the speaker for the guy who's pushing the government or the globalist narrative they're all going yes and so the people at home think wonderful so um they do many many different tricks so the media is manipulative here as it is everywhere adh is also a new channel here in australia doing a good job very good yes i like them alexandra marshall is just wonderful she's she's a bright young well she's not so young she's 30 odd but but she's she's got a got a very good talent you guys need more independent journalism here more podcasters yeah you have maria z doing a good job as well you have really good aussies doing we have three three forms of media we have the new independent people's media which pushes
Starting point is 01:21:32 truth and freedom that's you we have other podcasters we have the anti-social media which is facebook and instagram they're throttling my page they're throttling jared renick's page right back they are um but you guys are being viral because other people share you yes so that's the key yeah we get ours back from overseas and then we've got the mouthpiece media or the or the legacy media because it's dying uh-huh it is dying big brother media it's the last days of it and um what is behind putting those censorship uh rules in place i heard you talk about um the fact that they're putting these rules in place means that they're desperate yes so there's a little twist around control yeah to control someone sometimes they use fear fear
Starting point is 01:22:25 does a couple of things first of all it terrifies people but it also locks up the frontal cortex a rationing rational it goes straight to the fight or flight or freeze mechanism in our brain right it bypasses the logical reasoning so people can't think straight there's an irony to that though. People who try to control, always beneath control, there is fear. So if someone's trying to control you, they're afraid of you. If they're trying to censor you, they're afraid of your words. Now, I don't care what you say to me, you cannot hurt me. You cannot. It's my interpretation of your words that causes my hurt, which is my responsibility. What they've done is they've brought in regulations that say you can have hate speech you might hate me intently you might talk
Starting point is 01:23:14 very badly about me but only if i hate myself will you do any damage to me 100 so our society doesn't understand that so what happens is people are very vulnerable and they think the ultimate thing though is is um effort they think the government is here to protect them and that's what's happened government has worked into a place now where they control people and they steal from people and government is now a vehicle for stealing from you and me to take our money and give it to the global parasitic corporations the Pfizer's the BlackRock's the Vanguard's that's ultimately what's doing people in this country think fix that problem legislate regulate no because if you want to take on a bank now because they've treated you very badly good luck because you
Starting point is 01:24:12 won't get through the maze of regulations they will bury you in lawyers they just pull out a few lawyers and you're buried yes regulations help the powerful because regulations always make it difficult whereas common law which used to used to exist it still exists we've replaced common law with statute law common law i could take you to court and say what you did infringed on my property rights or my health or whatever pay up and a jury would find you either guilty or me frivolous but now what happening what's happening is you just turn around and say malcolm it doesn't meet the statute so i can keep doing it and you're hurting me so because some bureaucrat put a drafted a rule that politicians passed with most of them not even reading the bill i'm reading bills
Starting point is 01:24:59 citizens need to read bills they don't get it well politicians can't read all the bills because they just come through so damn quickly but we make sure someone in our office has read it and we grill them about it yes but so so someone has read it but but i think we reached the stage where citizens have to do this too because almost everything that comes out now is against us but you can't read that volume no that's all you'd be doing but you can organize yes you have a community of people that you know lawyers or smart people that love reading documents there are people like that i know there is yes a doctor but not a medical doctor a phd doctor she organized 3 500 100 volunteers, experts, scientists, doctors.
Starting point is 01:25:45 They did amazing work. Money, stunning work. So the regulations are put in place to protect the corporations. Yes. We have regulations in this place and in this country and industrial relations that are supposed to be protecting workers and employers, especially small businesses. They're that thick.
Starting point is 01:26:05 What employee can possibly read that? What small business owner could possibly read that? if you could if you did read it all how could you remember it how could you understand all what's going on that legislation is put in place for union bosses so that they have a their role is entrenched the worker needs them to interpret the law for lawyers for consultants for hr practitioners ir practitioners for industry associations and for global corporations so that they can just fool people and hide behind it all. That's why it's there.
Starting point is 01:26:41 So government comes out and says, we've enacted this legislation to protect you. Bullshit. It's to screw you. Once we understand that, it's all going to be easier. And speaking of stealing from you, which is one of the things you refer to, speaking of finance, do you think they're going to bring about as the next step here in Australia,
Starting point is 01:27:03 as CBDC as well as they will do in many other countries or at least try to? Yes, they'll try. We know that the Reserve Bank of Australia has been playing with digital currencies. Yes. We know that they're doing that for internal use. Yes. We know that they're also doing it for international use. Yes.
Starting point is 01:27:22 We also know New Payments Network, every single electronic transaction, everything in this country goes through a central node. so it can be controlled, monitored, so they can tell what you're doing, what you're spending your money on. So they're also working out a digital identity bill so that they'll be able to collect data on what you spend your money on,
Starting point is 01:27:47 where you travel, what you say on social media, every single thing about your life they have on there. They're justifying it on the benefit of a convenience. We're going to look after your data. We're going to make your data more secure, Efrain. Well, you have two cyber attacks last year. That's a good excuse to get the government to protect you from that again, right?
Starting point is 01:28:07 See, what they're doing there is they're saying that Optus cyber attack and the other one are reasons why we should have to protect your data. But what they don't tell you is that the majority of data breaches come from government and big tech. So if they can't control it, who can? The other thing that they don't tell you that we saw in the digital identity bill was that they will take your data as a big brother government. Yes. They will sell it. To whom?
Starting point is 01:28:35 Who would want it? Corporations? Of course. Retailing. The government will sell data of the citizens? Yes, that's set up in the digital identity bill when it was first mooted. I don't know if it's in it now. Okay.
Starting point is 01:28:48 But we exposed that. Wow. And my office is the one that exposed that. I can't believe it. No, it's true. And it's hard to surprise me these days. So what that means is they can sell it, if the government wants to, to a foreign corporation. So your data is stored overseas, not in accordance with Australian regulations.
Starting point is 01:29:06 Well, not that I'm that surprised, because I'll give you another parallel example from Israel. Benjamin Netanyahu, our prime minister, has announced about a year ago that he's working on the largest genetic database coming from Israel, that he's going to monetize to the world. You know, pharma company, whatever, genetic database. Just introduce. Biotechnology. We are the biggest and the best in biotechnology. And he's creating another genetic database to monetize.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Again, you were talking before about how they're making money off of us, how they're stealing from us. That's another form of theft. So what could happen? Your health data. I forgot to add that to it. Health data, financial data, travel data, what you say on social media, et cetera. So if you want access to your health data, you'll have to pay some corporation somewhere in the world to get access to it.
Starting point is 01:30:01 Far out. Wow. And that then leads the way into a central bank digital currency. Yes. And then that leads to social credit. Yes. That also leads to 15-minute cities. Correct.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Because in London right now, they have got in place, if you're not driving an electric vehicle, then you have to pay tax if you go so far it's a fine but it's called a tax it's a fine and if you don't pay it escalates for every day you haven't paid it so that's basically a 15 minute city right now so what what we'll have is not virtue not um not fences and roadblocks but we'll have cameras this this is the modern jail this is the modern prison so what we've got what was passed through the senate we oppose it very few people opposed it very few pauline Hanson, myself, I think the usual culprits, Antig and Babette and Rennick, what they can do now, identity verification bill.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Yes. Okay. It's gone through the Senate. It's gone through. That's it. It's gone through. Okay. And they paved the way for, it enables the use of cameras.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Yes. For biometric data, facial recognition. The New South Wales government has said that they're setting up cameras all over the place so they'll be able to assess a driver to find out whether or not he's got a driver's license. So that sounds pretty good, doesn't it? Analyze the face? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:30 Oh, my God. In an intersection. You drive through the intersection. China. That's it. So what that tells you is that they can refer instantly back to a database. Correct. What that also tells you is they can do it for anything else.
Starting point is 01:31:43 So the people swallow that bullshit that it's just for driver's license to make sure people have got driver's license. Bullshit. This is the most dangerous slippery slope. But they can also tell you who is sitting next to you as a passenger. Why were you in there with that Israeli terrorist? Oh, my God. Efrat Ben Ikson.
Starting point is 01:32:01 Yes. So then that enables them to not only look after your health data and finance data, but also who you're with. Now, they say that'll be good for terrorists. What bloody terrorist is going to have his facial and biometric data on a database? Correct. It enables everyone but terrorists to get identified. They want to surveil everyone.
Starting point is 01:32:25 Correct. No, they want to control everyone. Control, that's right, through surveillance. So what we're doing, Efra, is that we used to live in the feudalism. Yes. Then we had the middle class develop after the scientific revolution and the industrial revolution. Now they're wanting to take us back to feudalism where they control us. What is Yuval Nohari?
Starting point is 01:32:49 He said that we're useless eaters or was it Klaus Schwab? I can't remember which one. I'm sure both of them said it. So what they want is the same thing a feudal lord wanted. A few people in charge of the country, a few people in charge of the planet. you to simply produce for them and to eat enough to keep you alive. And they want lab meat. They're already talking about lab meat.
Starting point is 01:33:15 Gates is talking about lab meat. Gates is now the biggest owner of land in the United States, farming land in the United States. So what they want is to take us off meat, which is very, very healthy for us, put us on bugs, which is dangerous for us, or put us on lab meat, which is very dangerous for us. processed foods it's not just the thought of process it's also the thought of infection because these things are grown in a lab cultured out of bugs not i mean i mean
Starting point is 01:33:43 bacterial bugs yes and they've got tissue damage in them and and that'll be rancid putrid stuff yeah again once again we don't know what the results of that would be horrible no no no that's a very slippery slope so how do you suggest australians to um i wouldn't say fight back but take back their sovereignty when it comes to the digital id the money cbdc what can they do for the last 12 months my wife and i have given up credit cards we haven't surrendered them because sometimes you need them but we use cash so i go to the bank and get out cash carry cash with me And I pay motel bills when I'm traveling in cash. So we're asking people to use cash wherever you can.
Starting point is 01:34:34 The other thing about cash is that if the power goes out and it's going to go out a lot more soon, you haven't got FPOS. So small businesses need to keep cash. People need to keep cash. What the banks are doing in this country is they're closing down ATMs, closing down bank branches. Cashless. There's a Senate inquiry going on that I participated in into, yeah, it is cashless, into closure of regional bank branches. Yes.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Because it guts a town. When you've got no bank, it guts a town because people stop doing their shopping. There they go to the next town with a bank. It's a ripple effect. Right. But when you look at the data, the number of branches that are closing is also in the suburbs. so we've got nab shut where i am anz is shut westpac shut there's only the commonwealth
Starting point is 01:35:24 they're centralizing that too correct they want more people in less banks that's easier to then when you introduce cbdc it's easier to control less banks so let me give you let me give you a little fact here recently i attended a senate inquiry into closure of regional banks and one of my staffers gave me a list of companies from overseas that own shares in the big four the big four control 90 of our cash deposits blackrock vanguard state street first state about half a dozen of these companies i think vanguard was at three percent but combined they had about nine and a half ten percent you say well that's not control when you look at the mums and dads who never vote you look at the institutions the major uh superannuation funds yes that are that are told
Starting point is 01:36:23 how to vote yes then what you see is that is a controlling interest and it's almost identical Westpac, NAB, ANZ, Commonwealth Bank, all the same. Minor, minor differences between the amounts of percentages. What we've got controlling 90% of our cash deposits in this country is one bank with four logos. They're all controlled by the same people. Correct. And then on top of that, during the global financial crisis,
Starting point is 01:36:57 you saw that there was a bank bailout. 2008. The Federal Reserve Bank and the American Treasury gave Goldman Sachs – Goldman Sachs had a loan, gave a loan to Enron, and the government bailed Goldman Sachs out. So the taxpayer paid for them to – and that was all caused by stupidity. So what we've got is when these banks make a killing because of the regulations protecting them, they pocket the money.
Starting point is 01:37:25 So they use a capitalist for making profits. When they lose money, they're suddenly socialists because they take the money off the taxpayer. Now we've got all over the world, we've got a bail-in in legislation. Hundreds of countries have got bail-in legislation. We have it in this country. The difference between us and New Zealand is that in New Zealand they admit there's a bail-in.
Starting point is 01:37:47 In this country they deny there's a bail-in. Okay. So I was out of the Senate briefly when that bail-in was introduced. When I got back into the Senate, there's one term we introduced, just a sentence it was defining deposit if the government had changed that if we'd been successful with our definition definition of deposit it would have meant the bail-in would not work every party except ours voted against my little change so what it means is that in a bailout the government gives money to bail the banks out they said they didn't think it was fair on the taxpayer
Starting point is 01:38:23 to bail companies out so what they did and people don't understand the concept of a bail-in is that in a bail-in a bank says it's in trouble they will take your deposits give you a share certificate which is basically worthless because the bank's in trouble yeah so what you've got then is either worthless certificates you've lost your your um deposit you've gone lost your cash or you can wait a few years until hopefully it'll eventually pull back up in value but people don't know that that's what's going on and then people are told by the governments that there's deposit guarantees well the deposit guarantees listen to this there's 1.2 trillion dollars in in deposits that are covered by the bail-in the limit for the amount that can be that can
Starting point is 01:39:20 be protected by the guarantees, deposit guarantees, is $80 billion. So it's a fraction. So if you've got your money in a cash account, you're gone in a bail-in. You'll have shares, worthless shares. With a bail-in, they just exchange your cash for share certificates. It's stealing. Of course it's stealing. and people are not even familiar with how the fiat money system is designed
Starting point is 01:39:50 and how it's working. And you said before that some of those mechanisms, the bail-in, the bail-out, what were you referring to, is out of stupidity, not nefarious, you think? Out of stupidity? The majority of the politicians would not understand what I just said. On the politician side, I agree with you. On the banker's side? The bank side, the government side is nefarious.
Starting point is 01:40:14 Nefarious. Yeah, it's to get – what they want, just like men and women in the past would get a horse to do their dirty work, nowadays they've got a petrol engine or electricity from a coal-fired power station or they had it. What the banks want to do is to bludge off you and they want not only your money for ease, the Black Rocks of vanguards and the people who own them,
Starting point is 01:40:42 But what they want is protection. So they want to be able to take all kinds of incredible risks because remember in finance it's risk versus return. Risk is just as important as return. They want to take all kinds of stupid risks as they did in the global financial crisis and not have a real risk there because you will bail out or bail in. So they're not really risking a damn thing.
Starting point is 01:41:07 Yeah. And on top of that, it's fiat currency, so they're not risking anything anyway. Because they can print more. Right. And then we have inflation, which is what's caused the current inflation around the world, all the massive quantitative easing that came out during COVID.
Starting point is 01:41:22 Who pays for that? The people are now paying for it with high inflation. Of course. It's a tax. Of course. It's a silent killer. Yeah. And what did Henry Ford say back in the 1910s somewhere?
Starting point is 01:41:35 And he said, if Americans knew what was happening with their banking system, there'd be a revolution by morning. Yes. Correct. And from all the smart money people that I speak to on my podcast, they all say that we're already in the process of the collapse because they say this coming financial collapse will not just be one event. It will be an ongoing process that would lead us to a very tough financial situation all around the world where the fiat currencies will be reset in many countries. And in my eyes, then their plan is to introduce the CBDC as the new and improved fiat. Senator Ron Paul, who's a very well-educated – he's no longer a senator, as you know.
Starting point is 01:42:24 He's retired. But he's very well-educated on finance. And he wrote a book called End the Fed, Federal Reserve Bank. Wonderful book. Very short, simple, clear, astoundingly easy to read. he said that in that book he said every major recession since 1913 formation of the federal reserve bank has been deliberate yes it's been the responsibility of the federal reserve bank what they do is they flood the joint with cash by reducing interest rates people over commit
Starting point is 01:42:56 then they quickly pull a rug out from under them and they collapse guess who takes the assets the owners of the banks. So they foreclosed. It happened in 1907. There was J.P. Morgan and Rockefellers in America. They were the big banks in America. They engineered the collapse in 1907. So many farmers lost their land over that. The banks took it. Then Woodrow Wilson came in after having his campaign for president funded by the major banks. Edward Mandel House, who was a very strong behind-the-scenes manipulator of American politics. He got Woodrow Wilson to get an inquiry into the 1907 so that it would never happen again.
Starting point is 01:43:40 Heard that before? So then they did that inquiry. What they did in that inquiry was they got the major bankers, put them on a train. It's famous, infamous. Sent them down to Georgia in the middle of the night. They went off the Georgia coast to Jekyll Island. Of course.
Starting point is 01:43:56 That's where they formed the Federal Reserve. And that's their toy. In my eyes, what they're doing right now, what we're seeing, I think 2024 is going to be full of it, is controlled demolition for the next financial collapse. They know that it's going to collapse. They're just doing it piece by piece the way they want to do it until their CBDC is ready or I don't know. So they'll pull in another war or they'll they'll do all these things to cover up the fact that the monetary system is going to collapse and they'll blame it on other things, just like they blame COVID for the excessive money printing. and so how can we make people aware of that at least that's what i'm doing showing people that the biggest thing right now is to learn about money so that you can preserve your wealth
Starting point is 01:44:49 so you can protect what you've worked really hard for and and cash is one way to protect it but i also talk about gold and i talk about bitcoin because i think people need to understand that There are ways to take your money out of the system. But then there are certain flaws there too. I made quite a bit of money out of share investing. Took a lot of time to study it, but we sold all our shares back in 2010 because it looked pretty serious then. And so I've missed out on the share market growth since then,
Starting point is 01:45:25 but I've had the security of having gold and silver. Yes. and our super fund is half gold half cash so we have got to be very very careful so what we've done is in our personal accounts we've taken all of our money out of the banks put it back into one set of shares or one little portfolio of shares and we've lent our money to our daughter and her husband because they just had a baby so what we've done is because they got a loan with fixed interest, very cheap, all of a sudden it skyrocketed under COVID just last July.
Starting point is 01:46:05 Sure. So what we did was protect our grandson and our daughter and their son-in-law, protect ourselves because we took our money out of an account. Yes. And so they're paying us back now. Instead of paying the bank. Less the interest instead of the bank. So they're paying much, they'll get their house more quickly.
Starting point is 01:46:23 It's very smart. So we've got to look at what we can do to protect our families because that's the fundamental protection unit. And what these globalist parasites are doing is they're destroying property rights. Yes. They're destroying families. They're destroying religions. And they're doing that through many mechanisms.
Starting point is 01:46:43 They're destroying it through sexual exploitation of children. They're destroying it through the transgender or gender dysphoria, which is complete nonsense. again they're anti-human they're killing people to do this they're they're and they're making money out of it they're putting people young kids on on gender drugs for the rest of their life they're causing suicides when people realize they've just changed that you can't change gender when they've changed their genitals lopped off their genitals and then they suddenly realize their promise they were told that it was reversible is not true they commit suicide
Starting point is 01:47:19 and then we've got state government in victoria and other government talking about it saying that if you as a parent dare question your child if it comes up to you and says mom i want to change my gender if you dare question they can put you in jail that's what's happening in victoria in this country oh my god and they're talking in victoria not not big talk but some of the radicals are talking about it i think in america as well that they will have abortions made legal for three months after birth that's murder what yes three months after birth after birth that's murder that's these things are coming from the united nations wow world economic forum they have no regard their agenda is clear i just want to make one
Starting point is 01:48:05 comment about what i said before just so it's clearer to you when i'm when i say that i'm advocating for other means to preserve your wealth with Bitcoin, it's very interesting to follow another country that's doing that. That's El Salvador. It's the first country in the world that has made Bitcoin legal tender. And the economy there is flourishing since that happened in the past two years. Very, very interesting case study to follow. I just interviewed for my podcast the two ambassadors coming out of El Salvador,
Starting point is 01:48:38 Max Kayser and Stacey. stacy oh max kaiser they're amazing yeah he is so they're working with bukele the president of el salvador to transform the country and he's doing a fantastic job so i really recommend you look at that and learn a little bit just because it's a an interesting conversation to have with politicians and most politicians know nothing about it so well i've got to admit i've not done I'm very apprehensive about it because it just seems like another fiat currency that someone did have it. No, it's not. It's worth the research.
Starting point is 01:49:13 I think it's worth listening to what Bitcoin could do to a country. Very, very interesting. We've seen this. The globalists are in place because they have control of the Western money systems. Yes. Yes, and Bitcoin cannot be controlled. It's completely decentralized, and I call it the digital gold because it has all the properties of gold.
Starting point is 01:49:36 It is just digital, but it's completely decentralized and no one entity can control it. It's very, very interesting. Okay, well, I'll look at that for sure. But what I was going to say was that China and Russia, the BRICS, are now looking at forming an alternative to the US dollar. Correct, and pegging it to gold. yes and and i've worked and lived and studied in america for 15 for five years i'd spent 15
Starting point is 01:50:08 months traveling that's what australians do we we sell our car and buy a plane ticket home but for the first 15 for the first 15 15 months after i worked there i just spent the time traveling because i was fascinated by america um and i eventually married an american we've got two american children who are dual citizens that country that i had so much respect for is just the world's greatest terrorist organization now american people are fantastic they are lovely people so caring so frank so easy to engage so so wonderful but their government has been hijacked by these globalist parasites yeah since 1913 and probably before and it's now controlling the world's largest military force ever they don't even need a fraction of what they've got they
Starting point is 01:50:57 can walk into any country on earth they can bring australia along with us just like little patsies following the britain's going after them look at the wars they've had look at the wars they've caused and this is something else that ron paul said very well read he said every major war since 1913 is directly attributable to the federal reserve bank yes if people research what happened during the Second World War with funding both sides and funding the Nazis. And the First World War. And the First World War, of course. Yep.
Starting point is 01:51:30 So they control big pharma, big defense, big education, universities. They're controlling them through the grants. They're controlling them through WOKE. They're controlling big food. They're trying to create a big food now. They've destroyed the nutritional sector because the food pyramid is upside down. And I only learned that. I've been very much wanting to do exercise and look after my health.
Starting point is 01:51:54 But it's only recently that I've done the research and other people have done the research showing the food pyramid is upside down. We've been killing ourselves. Meat's wonderful. Fat's wonderful. Animal fat is wonderful. Yes. The way to lose weight is to get on animal fats.
Starting point is 01:52:06 I mean, we were told the complete reverse. There are many things that we are learning now that we've been lied to about or manipulated about. And I think we're in the age of Aquarius, which is the age of truth. and we're entering that age. And I think it's going to be very, very interesting to see how people are waking up to all these truths and what kind of actions they're starting to take in their lives.
Starting point is 01:52:31 And on that note, I wanted to ask you to end with a message of hope for people. The solutions lie in data. Not everyone is comfortable with data. The solutions lie in more people waking up, which means everybody can have their share of helping and participating and sharing our videos, sharing your podcasts, sharing my videos around the world, getting more people informed. And above all, above all, be very, very proud to be human.
Starting point is 01:53:05 See, I'm getting teary just saying that because fancy having to say that. Be very, very proud of being human. If I hold a gun to your head, you know that I'm controlling you. If I force you to get an injection so that you can feed your child, you know that I'm controlling you. But if I grab you when you were three years old and indoctrinate you all the way through preschool, high school, university, you don't know I'm controlling you. And that's the state we're in. And so what we have to do is to wake people up. and what they've been telling us these global parasites is that you as a human are uncaring
Starting point is 01:53:47 irresponsible greedy rapacious you're not worthy and i will protect you by being a government the globalist predators but we'll be a facade behind the puppets who we've got what they don't tell us is we're humans too so the globalist parasites are simply stealing your right to self-govern so it's very very important to realize that they can be easily undone and i mean easily i've been calling out the world economic forum uh for a few years now the world economic forum recently had a page on strategy i think it's about 12 months ago it was half a page And they were bemoaning the fact, in their view, that so many Western countries are becoming racist, homophobic, transphobic. And they mentioned one country, Australia.
Starting point is 01:54:45 And they said we're being indoctrinated, these countries are being indoctrinated by far-right extremists. And they mentioned one party, one nation. One nation? Yep. Wow. So Pauline and I were very, very proud. So what I'm saying is we know that the efforts that the Digital Transformation Agency in this country have made electronically have all failed. These people can't pull it off.
Starting point is 01:55:12 They cannot pull it off. That's the first thing. They will cause enormous damage and chaos in trying to do so. So it's also important to understand that their aims are control and wealth transfer. Yes. Always beneath control there is? Fear. Fear.
Starting point is 01:55:35 They are shit scared of the people. They are terrified of the people. Well, the wonderful news is that if you look at the last Davos retreat, There were good reporters, two from Australia, at least one from Canada, other countries, who were just making a mockery of it. Even the mouthpiece media frat were making a mockery of these monkeys. John Kerry made a fool of himself. Al Gore made a fool of himself. These people are now going into global boiling, and people are just laughing at them.
Starting point is 01:56:07 You know what their theme for this year is? Rebuilding trust, because they know that there is no trust. it tells you everything so so what i'm saying is we are getting through the people are starting to come back we just got to get more people awake so whoever's watching this please share it please do more of share more of your work and uh and your waking up thank you thank you so much where can people follow you and um keep up to date with your work on instagram i'm senator malcolm roberts on Facebook. Search Senator Malcolm Roberts Twitter. I'm mroberts2019, I think. But you'll find me. And I've got a website, which is malcolmrobertsqld.com.au.
Starting point is 01:56:59 Fantastic. So I will put the links in the show notes for this episode. And I want to give you, we'll give you a hug later but um this was really fantastic for me because um i feel very privileged to be able to travel and meet like-minded people that speak you know in the same level doesn't matter where we're from what the background is which nationality which religion doesn't matter in the end of the day as you said it's freedom it's love it's what unite us as as human beings and just meeting someone that is serving humanity like you, serving the people of Australia, of Queensland, of the world, the way you do is very, very unusual. So I thank you on behalf of your constituents, but also on behalf of people from around the world.
Starting point is 01:57:54 That was a fantastic conversation. Thanks. Yeah, I enjoyed it. Thank you very much, Efra. Thanks. Thanks for watching!

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