You're The Voice | by Efrat Fenigson - Ep. 37: Dror Ashuah - Awakening 101

Starting point is 00:00:00 Awakening is more than going to a weekend yoga retreat. If you're going to a yoga retreat and you had a blast, you haven't awakened. You had a blast. Awakening is usually excruciatingly painful. Usually when you do it, you know that you experience blockages, fear. Fear is probably the biggest thing. Change in your dogmatic view of the world. The possibility of losing your partner, losing your friend, losing everything that you know.

Starting point is 00:00:28 because awakening means that you are reclaiming your truth reclaiming the truth mean that you have to shed and from cultural to educational to whatever kind of bs that have been attached to you and to your lineage from before for god knows how long so it usually has to do with immense fear that you're moving through so the true awakening is playing yourself that's all because your light is really really unique so when you try to be someone like a movie star or play anyone you're not playing yourself playing yourself is the way the true awakening nothing to do with some type of a zen or buddha hello

Starting point is 00:01:22 hello my friend and thank you for being with me on you're the voice thank you thank you i'm so humbled to have you thank you so much for joining me on my birthday so this is my On your birthday. It's so amazing that you took the time on your birthday. Thank you. No, it's honored. Honored always to connect with you. Are you 25 years old today? 33. So, Dror, we've met a few months ago in Israel in the Healing Center, a place called the Healing Center, which is a place where young people who survived the massacre on October 7th

Starting point is 00:02:10 came to find healing and find rescue as well as some of their friends and families and other people in need went through this place in order to heal themselves or at least start a process of healing. And this episode is going to be a bit of an unusual episode that I haven't done much like it before. i'm going to divide it to two parts the first part is a short conversation that we'll have here now and the second part will take us back to the healing center where we met to show our audience

Starting point is 00:02:47 the work that you have done there and the conversation we had there okay so let's start with a quick intro for my audience that don't know you sudra is an internationally recognized inspirational speaker, author, and founder of retreat centers in the U.S., in Mexico and Italy. His book series, Conversation with Angels, is a collection of messages on spiritual awakening received by Droll from the angelic spiritual realm in preparation for this unprecedented time of global change. Droll has a master's degree from Harvard University in human development and psychology his worldwide travels combined with studies in mysticism astrology reiki crystals and shamanism have all contributed to his personal understanding of the messages about human

Starting point is 00:03:42 consciousness the role relays a non-linear world view about the nature of life on earth and our greater purpose in the universe awakening to our divinity and understanding our spiritual role on this earthly journey wow i love your introduction i can just dive into this and talk for an hour about that but you know you know let's start with the evolution on consciousness one of the things that i've mentioned here can you maybe explain on how you perceive reality yeah it says on your website both on a physical dimension and a non-physical dimension okay um the view is just my view of um evolution and consciousness i think that the word evolution can be a little misconstrued because

Starting point is 00:04:42 those who are familiar with the hermetic principle thermis one of the hermetic principles it's called rhythm and the rhythm means that everything has a circular movement a cycle like the pendulum moves in and out and consciousness is the same when you talk about greece of the glory days where art and science was and its peak development and you look at greece now you're like what's how does that work you're the voice is brought to you by treasure the original bitcoin hardware wallet company pioneering the development of self-custody for crypto assets since 2013 empowering individuals with an open source device enabling beginners and experts to easily and securely hold their coins i find my treasure super easy to use and

Starting point is 00:05:33 recommend it to my friends and family enjoy my five percent discount on treasure product by clicking the link in the show notes and using the code EFLAT. It's the same geography. There was an evolution of thousands of years, and Greece now is nothing of the glorious day. The same is with Italy, the same with Egypt. When you go to Egypt now and you look at how those Egyptians could have built the pyramid, it doesn't add up, because it doesn't.

Starting point is 00:06:01 Because the consciousness has to do with what you call absolute laws and universal laws which hermes talks about them hermes was basically the founder of those who believe in their cult the founder of of the wisdom that immigrated from atlantis when it sank into egypt and it brought that knowledge into egypt and then to greece and then to the mind and to other cultures so the law of rhythm speaks about But the movement and the titles and the waves of consciousness, we are ways of breaking through some type of a spiral consciousness possibility that has to do with choice. So we have an opportunity.

Starting point is 00:06:54 Evolution is not a must. It's a choice, because this school that we call the school on earth, this is a big universe. There's many, many different schools. many different life forms there's many different availabilities for consciousness to reside on this is just one of them but this is a tough one and there's two components the most important one is that dark and light can coexist has to be always there always will be dark and light it cannot just be light here it's just not the story of this specific school second thing it's all based on choices. Choices over taking any other rule that this existence in this

Starting point is 00:07:48 particular school is concerned with. So now we have an opportunity, if we choose, to move into a consciousness that this planet has never known but that consciousness doesn't mean that the whole planet will go into it could be what you call a split where part of the consciousness is moving into a realm that is what you call heaven or you can consider it as heaven which means that it's in balance in equilibrium based on love based on justice and another one that lives in hell, which is suffering, injustice, unsustainable victimhood, and it's all within us, and it's all based on choice, and those two, once they split, they split happened, you know, there was a time of a choice, and that time of a choice has passed, so that split is going

Starting point is 00:08:48 further and further and further and some people within the same physical boundaries of this planet can be in heaven and some can be in hell and that's also a choice if there's always a choice that's a beautiful thing i mean as some planet there's no choice if you live let's say in a in a planet of fire i'm just throwing it out there with a molecule of of uh of blissful orgasmic energy that's that's your that's your experience but here you have a choice you can choose this or you can choose that and so evolution doesn't mean that um we all eventually eventually all souls develop but you can take many many many reincarnations and it doesn't mean that it's always moving forward you can create a movement that is so entire evolution that it will actually

Starting point is 00:09:42 bring you back so eventually all souls have that movement of spiraling higher it's not a linear movement it's it's it's a spiral movement that can also spiral downward and um and some people has spiraling downward and you know eventually they'll have an opportunity this opportunity call in the spiritual realm on angelic realm they call gates you don't get those to pass to get these gates every lifetime but when these gates are available to you and you move through them a lot of times they're very difficult and you have to give up sometime your job and your friends and everything that you know to align with with with those and what you call truth and the truth and playing for yourself and that's that's basically your purpose your purpose is not to be anyone else

Starting point is 00:10:35 each person in this physical realm has a gift and that gift is very very unique and you will never be and never have been like you so when you exercise your gift that's the biggest gift that you can give this world wow thank you for saying that and reminding me once again what this is all about yes yes amen yes that's why i'm humbled and honored to be in this conversation with you yeah yeah i'm sure a lot of the things you're saying are going to click for many people some of them are more spiritual so they probably have some experience in this world and some of them are not spiritual at all and so this may be new to them but it may resonate because they'd be feeling that they've been experiencing some of this stuff lately and they wouldn't know

Starting point is 00:11:34 what to attribute it to and why it's happening and and why are you saying that this is a time like a special time on earth that this is happening is in the laws of physics that we know here on earth is it like this specific time time period that we are experiencing it in this years months what are we looking at this transformation this evolution so i just want to this is a very earthy question yeah yeah i just want to track back just a little bit everyone is spiritual there's no in my world there's no such thing as spiritual not spiritual and if you did reiki one on reiki two it doesn't make you more spiritual some of the most simple peasants that i've met in italy or in the mayan people that can barely speak any spanish debate they they carry the most

Starting point is 00:12:31 amazing connection to the heart to the land to to to the law of nature and honoring and some people that have a beautiful way with vocabulary and amazingly charismatic and supposedly know everything and read all the courses and did yoga and tantra and this and that violet many many many spiritual laws for me being a spiritual is not a knowing it's a it's a it's a frequency it's a it's a frequency that you cannot lie your way out of it you can it doesn't mean that you know more or no less it's how you vibrate that vibration like the like the beehive that vibration is has a certain purity and a certain coherence if you speak with both sides of your mouth this is a mayan saying um or you are there's

Starting point is 00:13:35 a discrepancy between what your life that the life that you represent and the life that you preach which many do from the religious realms to the political realm to any other then your vibration is low yeah and that within the spiritual spectrum does not make you a spiritual person no matter what your knowledge and what your vocabulary speaks so i i was privy to uh to speak at the u.n once and and one of the most amazing um spiritual leaders of the time from california spoke and i could i i almost purged i i felt sick to my stomach and then a a small Chinese woman that works, you know, volunteering in some remote village spoke, and she barely spoke English. And I was melting. So for me, the vibration of that person was what determined my,

Starting point is 00:14:36 the way I treated the world and not, not. Yeah. So and as to do with the time, yes, the time is a very specific time okay there's something that's called the harmonic conversion that that took place in 1987 there was a very very particular constellation star constellation that opened a certain portal in the physical realm that the portal took 25 years to 2012 to have that possibility of where the the path that we were walking on that was pretty predetermined in a way from 2012 we had the choice a true choice to either move into the vibration of light and move into the vibration that is let's say dark is not bad dark is just lack of light it's just it's all on the spectrum yeah that's why many many powerful entities being souls came

Starting point is 00:15:40 in the right age to play a part in this time there's a lot of there's a lot of souls incarnating that they'll be able to to express their voice and their and their yes um the contract is to speak out and if they don't speak out they'll get sick or they won't be here exactly i know yeah literally i'm talking about physically they they the contract is that because some souls that they don't need to be here every you know every generation they come for a specific mission and that mission now is to help earth move into a place where it's never been evolutionary but that's it's it's it's a little esoteric and it's uh not not the common knowledge but that's knowledge today i love it and what i want to ask you is on a physical level i've been following

Starting point is 00:16:40 the levels of light that are being measured by devices invented by a scientist called schumann on the scale of resonance yeah exactly so i've been following that seeing the actual physical manifestation of how much light is being transmitted to earth um and the the frequency of that light that is growing immensely rising over the past few years that have not happened before for the past 50 years or so since he invented it the average frequency of light to earth is 7.03 hertz which is the the humming sound of earth right that's the resonance it's not only like it's a resonance of the planet the human resonance of the planet is rising yes and so from 703 we've seen it rise to levels of 40 50 and even 70 hertz lately and uh and i think i mean

Starting point is 00:17:45 that is the only connection I have made so far, that is a true visualization of the connection between the spiritual and the physical, that you can actually measure this spiritual awakening with a physical way. There are many others, I mean, but this is one that is so easy to correlate, You know, you see the levels of light changing on Earth in the last few years and you see everything that's happening around the world. There's something that we forget as humans, that we are part of the Earth, of the energy. Sometimes we think that there's Earth and there's us. Yes. And we are separate.

Starting point is 00:18:34 We're separate. So we measure Earth. We are Earth. Of course. We are Earth. Our resonance is the same, right? it we use seven we we cannot jump off earth we cannot just jump and be in the in the in the resonance of the moon we we are we are here we are it we are in so think of it as like the the

Starting point is 00:18:59 awakening each soul it awakens in that it's something in in the soul in the heart clears to about that it start that the heart resonance grows or begin to to and and what you call a power of coherence is emanating from a soul now multiply it and multiply it and multiply it the earth resonance move not because of earth because humanity we are we are the we are the determined or because we are part of earth it's not that the earth increasing its energy and we are and we're just seeing it we are it yeah so we are just measuring the possibility and the potential and what is actually happening so there's a doom and gloom there's wars there's horrors there is russia and ukraine there's there's israel and there's gaza there's this conflict and one when

Starting point is 00:19:56 one moves into into israel right now that you can actually feel that you can feel the heaviness and you can feel the the you know the and a lot of time what happened in israel is just a a kind of like a pointer of what's going to happen worldwide it's it's it's just it's it's the the what you call in hebrew advice like the first ripple yes that is just extend and extend and extend so so the the war that is happening or whatever is happening now and and the potential and the human resonance shows that we are in the trajectory of incredible opportunity for humanity. And at the same time, what we see is the battle raging between dark and light, between information and misinformation, between manipulation and people that find a way to go around

Starting point is 00:20:50 manipulation, people that are talking the truth and people that are trying to manipulate other people to become slaves. so there's a lot a lot of moving parts and you're part of it you're part of that war and that war is raging and when you say war it doesn't mean that you fight it means that actually that the inner peaceful movement and your vibration and you're enabling other people to have the choice you're not forcing anyone to watch your channel you you're just opening that gate and those who choose to that's that's where they um that's where something can change in their life literally we feel that we are not what we're being told like in sense of the doom and gloom we are we

Starting point is 00:21:35 are on a trajectory that is incredibly potent and it's happening and it's happening off of the media or let's say in alternative media but not not in the mainstream media right okay so So another earthy question. I'm giving you all the idiot's guide to awakening 101, all those type of questions. So how does one awaken? Okay. That's a really, really good question. Awakening is more than going to a weekend yoga retreat.

Starting point is 00:22:12 If you're going to a yoga retreat and you had a blast, you haven't awakened. You had a blast. and if you go meditation and you have a wonderful time and so i can i can tell you what awakening feels like awakening is usually excruciatingly painful usually when you do it you know that you experience blockages fear fear is probably the biggest thing change in your dogmatic view of the world the possibility of losing your partner losing your friend losing everything that you know because awakening means that you are reclaiming your truth reclaiming the truth mean that you have to shed

Starting point is 00:22:59 from cultural to educational to whatever kind of bs that have been attached to you and to your lineage from before for God knows how long. So it usually has to do with immense fear that you're moving through, changing, making life changes decision. Yes. It's also good to learn techniques like meditation and yoga to balance your system, but that's not what awakens you. What awakens you is moving through gates of patterns that do not support you,

Starting point is 00:23:41 that are not your truth. So the true awakening is playing yourself. That's all. It's all because your light is really, really unique. So when you try to be someone like a movie star or like – anyway, play anyone that you're not playing yourself. Playing yourself is the true awakening. Nothing to do with some type of Zen or Buddha or this and that.

Starting point is 00:24:08 If you play yourself, and whenever you don't play yourself, you make a choice, even if it's based on fear to go against sometimes family, sometimes family during COVID that didn't speak to other forms of family that wouldn't, you know, take the vaccine because they felt that it was wrong. playing yourself fully the more that you are closer to your inner truth

Starting point is 00:24:33 the more awakened you are all the rest is all the rest is more kind of a noise it's not about how much you know how much you learn, nothing to do with it not how much you practice yoga not how much you practice meditation but doing shamanic

Starting point is 00:24:50 processes and all kind of different processes helps, support But the true test to the fact that you're awakening is that you move through fear. Yes. And it's a journey. It's not a one-time event. And there's no, exactly, awakening is not a goal. You never, it's not about reaching anywhere.

Starting point is 00:25:20 It's a process. And the process, the whole, everything here that has to do with spiritual growing or what we call awakening has to do, it becomes easier because the more you play yourself and the more you actually learn to love yourself and accept yourself and move through shame and guilt and manipulation and environment. the true war in this dimension right now is on attention everyone is trying to get your attention and to move your attention from self so it's through phone through media through whatever whatever it is to keep you busy to keep you busy and occupy so why because once you're it's like a resource it's energy it's like it's like fuel it's like gas it's like gasoline whatever you want to call it that energy is being harvested basically harvested by by powers cooperation by darkness in order to basically enslave your consciousness it's yes it's not like a conspiracy

Starting point is 00:26:30 just the truth it's always been like that so our our ability to to to control our attention and be able to move it you know inside to be able to know what we need and to follow it and to get connected with the inner because everything actually separating us from us whatever you you see and and exposed to actually meant to disconnect you from you so the more you manage to connect to the more power you have so cooperation or powers don't like people to be strong or powerful or self-thinking it goes against money it goes against interest so when you actually disconnect and reconnect to your power you're invincible no one can no one can play with you no one can sell you bs so the awakening has to do with that with this connection

Starting point is 00:27:31 with clearing clearing clearing cleansing clearing moving through uh what you call peer pressure and because everyone buys into it like the fear of covid for example i i must admit that i did not vaccinate myself and I was recommending everyone around me not to. And I feel that the pressure that was created by

Starting point is 00:27:57 interest, that now we know is a BS, to vaccinating was basically a very, very powerful pressure. And for people to say, I'm not going to do that, sometimes they have to pay price.

Starting point is 00:28:14 And lose their jobs and even lose friends so when you're awakened you know it because it's not a fun weekend it's not about it's tough

Starting point is 00:28:28 you move through blocks and you experience fear yeah and I always say that when it starts and you realize it you sometimes think that life is over but what really is over is the

Starting point is 00:28:45 illusion of what you thought life is that's probably what's ending not life itself life is not ending it never ends it's an ongoing energy it never ends and i think that the dying the dying to what you know and the dying to your old self should become a habit and it's actually become more enjoyable as time comes in you let go you let go and part of it is dying dying is okay dying is really okay well people would think we're crazy when we're saying that no but i really i understand what you mean because i've experienced it several times in the past few years where i felt like i literally have gone away it's not me anymore it's someone else that's it now there's a new effort okay but i i if anything i felt like the new effort that's

Starting point is 00:29:35 coming alive is the kid is the one that started this journey and somehow got forgotten along the way and now the you know the the one that have taken over the one with the bad habits and with the uh with the need to please and with the indoctrination and with all that that one is dead and the one that's coming alive is closer to the one that was born it needs to die because rebirth happen only when you die so you have to let go of something and the process of dying is part of the processing of awakening it's it's it's an it's a must thing it's not a physical death but it's a death to what you know and what is death this is the unknown so when you let go of what you know and what you've been told and move into that kind of a portal into what you don't know

Starting point is 00:30:27 that is death and that's why people are so afraid of it because they don't know how you're going to make it they don't know where the money is going to come from they don't know who who is going to be the friend they afraid to be you know abandoned lonely poor whatever whatever we we build the built-in fear yeah is part of the part of the blockages that prevents 90 percent of the people that's supposed to be awakened to move into that reality and um no no go so so awakening is is is the most sacred and and basically the the soul agreement is to remember why it came here and to play that part not to play anyone's else part you don't you don't add anything although you can be famous rich whatever whatever it doesn't matter because you when you leave this

Starting point is 00:31:23 dimension you don't take anything with you so the only thing you take is that you played your you you added your light your particular gift that you came to give signature and that signature is a soul signature that you you know as a child you remember and you play it and then everything else start coming into to take that away from you and coming back to it and then it feels amazing then then then you know and that that's where your vibration that's where the consciousness that's where the awakening that is the vibration that you emit that people want to hug you some people want to talk to you and people love you even if they don't know you they can pass by you and all of a sudden they don't even know who they pass by they they have a smile on their face

Starting point is 00:32:12 because they felt a certain woof of that energy. Really, it's true. You know who's sensitive to that energy? Dogs and little kids. They look at you. Babies and dogs, yeah. They always, yeah, I find it. It happens to me all the time.

Starting point is 00:32:30 Sometimes cats as well. Cats, yeah, animals. Animals see it. They, they, they, there's just not as much of them going on the street, you know, with people. But that energy is palpable, it's visceral. And kids that are very, very young, they also feel it and they look at you.

Starting point is 00:32:53 And that's the truth, that's the vibration that you carry. And you said before, you mentioned that the war we are experiencing now is actually a war on our consciousness. And the column that I write in the newspaper, in Bereshit newspaper, is called the battle on consciousness. And I try to show how different areas of our lives or industries are basically manipulating us to harvest our energy in different ways. And then I show it on, for example, on Big Pharma and I show it on, you know, the climate change agenda and I show it on the money agenda and the monetary system and how it's designed to enslave us into a life of working for the system and, you know, being in its service rather than the system servicing us. And so for me, all the different types of content or topics that I host, whether it's my column or this podcast and guests like you and others, for me are on the scale, that same spectrum or scale of topics that are all relevant to show how there is a battle on our consciousness. because it's not just one area that is rotten or corrupt or you know or or um have an unjust in it and and people are suffering it's it's on almost every area on our of our lives now and when you truly awaken it's as if you cannot unsee anymore what you're now seeing

Starting point is 00:34:40 And so asking me to not talk about a certain topic or a certain area of life is like telling me, don't do what you're here to do anymore, right? I have to say those things. I have to show those things. If I'm wrong, I admit I'm wrong. I'm fine with taking back something I said, which was not right. But I just have to touch things that resonate, that feel to me like they're out of balance, there is a level of manipulation there, there is a level of corruption, the goal behind them is to influence consciousness in a nefarious way. And my background of being a marketeer and being someone who has designed systems and campaigns to influence people's minds in order to drive them into action, mostly on a consumeristic level. and i'm taking those skills and adapting them to the world we live in right now and say okay where can i detect that there is an attempt to manipulate people's mind or influence people to do something or to go somewhere to to drive them to a place where the energy that they that will be taken from them will be not in their favor it will be someone else's interest and they'll be used so you're you actually kind of like in a way an agent that learned the system

Starting point is 00:36:17 and you use it against the system which is amazing and i've always said that that that was always my gift to come into very complex systems learn how they operate and then in a way maneuver them to my advantage and sabotage them which is sabotage but just steer them in a beautiful way yeah no yeah because i i'm not violent so i do things in a in a graceful way you know but just but the there is one there's one component that is a common theme among most people where they feel they have no choice they feel that it's stronger than them and that is a misconception that is very very important for your listener to understand that even the strongest most powerful system need the cooperation of its clients constituents they have to so once

Starting point is 00:37:21 once this constituent decide not to cooperate it collapses yes it does not it has always the option not to play the game so that game the ultimate ultimate goal of any awakening is not to participate in the game that is designed for you to fail playing yourself and weaken you and enslave you that is the the final game plan and the game plan is that nothing nothing can force you against your will and if enough people it doesn't have to be even half it can be just a small amount that create that change that will create a ripple strong enough to change consciousness all around why because it's it's it's the the law the law of the ripple if that strong impact basically can allow the change to ripple to to change consciousness on earth to an extent that

Starting point is 00:38:26 it will not be able to hold that system that is not sustainable that is manipulative and that is working against the people that are actually it's supposed to benefit so we always have that power that is our choice once we play the game or in the matrix movie once you're connected to the system then it feeds you your reality but the disconnect from that machine means that you may feel the fear of death or the fear that you're alone and the fear that you have no support but it's not the truth it's just not the truth it just you have to disconnect to that source of information and find a different source or inner source that will basically sustain you and that's work that that It takes a lot of work, a lot of inner discipline,

Starting point is 00:39:11 and a lot of moving through fear, and that's awakening. Unfortunately, it's not an easy path. No, it's not an easy path, but I think it's the only worthy path in life. I want to tell you that I'm noticing more and more people that have started a process of awakening during COVID and are very easily being drawn to what i call if they've taken the red pill to start awakening they've now taken the black pill route and they they are being drawn to fear um because what you as you said it's it can be really hard to start seeing the truth and understanding things and

Starting point is 00:39:57 you know and experiencing yourself differently and understanding that you have a choice and that you have to make changes in your life in order to be in um in resonance with your true self and your heart and they and they don't maybe they don't find the power or the courage to make those changes or maybe they find it overwhelming the stuff that they have to do or the stuff that they see the information that they see and another bad thing I think it's bad that's happening is that people are consuming too much of their energy in content that is scary you know all kind of doom and gloom scenarios and things like that it's just like naturally happening and so I say you know they've started the journey they've taken the red pill and then somewhere along the path they've

Starting point is 00:40:52 taking the black peel and they're you know they're moving into the rabbit here now they're now like everything's gonna collapse nothing's gonna work people are not gonna do anything they haven't done anything until now so why would anything change and there's this pessimism and this giving up and all that stuff and i look at it and i say that's again that's a choice that and that's not awakening awakening is two components that are really really important that um you cannot be awakened and a victim it doesn't work so a lot of people that subscribe to the conspiratorial which i'm not saying is wrong or not wrong i'm not judging it at all but and and hold the fact that they're a victim and there's powers that are so powerful that you have to be a victim

Starting point is 00:41:39 that is um that narrative is not awakening it's just another narrative yep the second thing that has to be part of the awakening that you take responsibility for your reality fully yes fully fully even if it's you know people will say that is impossible it wasn't up to me everything is up to you everything what you see what you experience and that is a hard truth or truism to swallow but if you subscribe to these that you're not a victim and you are responsible for everything that your reality presents you from that comes a power that becomes invincible once you take responsibility for your life you can detach from things that do not serve you can detach from people even if it's family that do not serve you you can

Starting point is 00:42:39 detach from toxicity you can detach from resources that try to tell you that the world is ending even if they're seemingly on your side they said you know the the powers the family whoever the money is trying to get you and they they digging 5g under your bathroom whatever the story may be once you once you understand that you're responsible for your life fully and that you're not a victim from there that's the beginning of awakening that's true awakening not not what you know not that you think that this and that is behind your back trying to trying to destroy you or whatever look my son i don't even remember if i told you that but my son um a week after the war i sent him to his father in australia he's 14 years old right and sent him

Starting point is 00:43:34 there and he had a great time and his father put him in school for a month just because schools here in Israel were not working at the time and we didn't want his life to stop and we didn't want him to experience everything that's happening here and about a month after he moved there I mean after he went there they both called me him and his dad and said that he wants to stay that he wants to move to australia yeah and he's 14 years old and i'm like too early you know this is my baby boy this is not only my baby boy this is like my only son and this is like my only child and the one that i have raised on my own since he was one year old when his father and and i got divorced and so i was living with this kid for 13 years on my own raising him on my own and

Starting point is 00:44:29 And here he is telling me, mom, I want to live with dad. I don't want to live with you anymore. I want to stay in Australia. And I was shocked, you know, not that I didn't know that that's going to happen at some point. We did talk about it in the past, but it was early, you know, and we sent him to Australia just because of the war. We didn't anticipate this change. And this change came, you know, life, life happens.

Starting point is 00:44:54 And I was really grappling with that. It was very hard. And there was one thing that I promised myself, that I am not going to get into battle with his father. I'm not going to fight with him. This is not going to be war. I'm going to find a solution with him together. And so, unlike many times in the past, we had good conversations on the phone, but I still didn't manage to get my way, which was, let's bring him back home. So I said, fuck it.

Starting point is 00:45:24 I'm packing my suitcase and I'm going to Australia. I'm going to speak with him and I'm going to see my son and so I went there and I experienced time with him and with my son and I went to the school that he's going to and I saw the environment not that I don't know this environment because I lived there for six years so you know this is a neighborhood that I know quite well in Melbourne and very quickly while I was there I realized a few things. First of all, I realized this is awesome for him. This is a great change and he's going to have an amazing experience. Even if it's going to be hard in the beginning, he's doing what I've done when I was 21. He's just doing it a few years earlier. He's trying to live in a different

Starting point is 00:46:11 place. He's learning the language. He's getting new friends. He's starting fresh. And then number two, he's catching up with his dad for what he didn't have for 13 years and he's growing up and he's a teenager and he needs his dad now and he's getting stuff from him that i can't give him because i don't have what he's got and um and the only thing that's in the way is me and my you know my fears and my my my old conversations and everything so i had to let go and i had to and you know that fear of you don't know what's going to happen and you have to let go and surrender to life and just you know i'll be fine somehow i'll i'm gonna i'm gonna be unprotected i'm loved i know i'm gonna be fine and i broke down to pieces and i reconnected

Starting point is 00:47:00 in the following month yeah and i came back here as a single mom again no child with me um he's with his dad and he's there for six months now and you and you have way more free time I have a lot more free time and I saw all the good things in this to do what you do to do what I do and to help other people exactly and you have

Starting point is 00:47:26 your boy connecting with his masculine which is a sacred sacred process and it's exactly in the age of you know where it's half of his you know like moving into adulthood he needs it, he needs that

Starting point is 00:47:42 aspect there's a lot of very very sacred movement not easy not easy at all not easy at all but i i had to i had to let this happen because you said if you are taking full responsibility for everything that's happening in your life and you see yourself as the source of everything that's happening in your life then i did this i'm the one that chose not in a bad way just that's just reality. That's just what it is. I'm the one that chose to go to Australia when I was 20. I'm the one that met his father. I'm the one that brought this baby. I'm the one that, you know, decided to create life that will be international and have two citizenships and have a father in one continent

Starting point is 00:48:33 and a mother in another. I created all this. What can I tell him? He's the one just walking the path that I created. And it's just doing it much faster and probably better than I did when I was 20. So I'm in the source of that. So I really could not, that's what helped me go through this so quickly, giving up the blame and the, and the victimhood. I'm not a victim. I created this. It's fine. And it's for a reason. I am the way I am because of everything I have done in my life and all the experiences that I've accumulated and my son is probably very similar to me and even

Starting point is 00:49:13 better and he's doing yeah and so you know I can only bless him on that and it's amazing that he chose you as a mother as a mother to allow him that freedom and it's how empowering it is to allow him to choose

Starting point is 00:49:29 where he's going to live and how he's going to form his life and I just want to say one thing about the the turning into and taking the black pill yeah the black pill is sometimes um as dangerous if not more than listening to the mainstream whatever whatever and why it's it's as manipulative from the perspective of fear rejecting and taking away your power your inner power to choose so it's it basically says there is this and that

Starting point is 00:50:08 i'm familiar with them there's this and that families and these are this the cabal or the this consortium or that consortium that basically conspire to enslave you and to create an environment where you're not going to thrive or you're going to be enslaved or whatever so i just want to say something for from the angelic perspective the angelic perspective is very very clear the universe conspire to awaken you and giving you the best possibility to grow and thrive that's that's the universe no human power can overtake that and everything supports you everything in your reality actually is there and designed to give the tools to thrive so people will say how come this one died and this one this people will come

Starting point is 00:51:03 with a lot of stories that are horrific and i say just listen to the tone and those who will hear it will know what i'm speaking of when you connect to a source and after that source you feel drained you feel fear and you feel victim disconnect from that source that source is not there to awaken you it does exactly the opposite lao tzu has a kind of a ahead of his time kind of a phrase he says deal only with what's in front of you so if there is something somewhere else like most people that ingest the the news day in and day in and day in and see everything horrible that happened in the world and that's basically like eating a really really spoiled food it goes into the system it affects your cell it affects your consciousness it affects your view

Starting point is 00:52:06 so i'm not saying disconnect from everything but i'm saying um you have a choice what to connect how to eat who you see what you accept what how do you interpret certain like you certain actions and certain movement in your life do you do you move against it do you fight it do you do you understand how it's supposed to serve you a lot of the most amazing gifts are as a result of pain a result of injury a lot of awakening result of illness a lot of result awakening a result of loss why because when we're in a normal state we are asleep we're walking and we're going through our routine and we we don't have the opportunity all of a sudden something happened and we stop and we really look at our lives so a lot of times the thing that you consider the most

Starting point is 00:52:58 most tragic in your life actually could be the most the biggest gift in your life allowing you giving you the opportunity and the gate to move through and sometimes you don't have to wait for that to happen you can just by choice make the move that awaken to who you are to you to your lie to your truth and that's why you came here yep simple simple huh i'm simple people stop complicating things wow no it's just a lot of white noise a lot of noise yeah and you got to be really centered in order to distinguish the noise from the actual energy and movement and sound of life this is our brain this what i'm holding and that brain knows

Starting point is 00:54:01 what that brain is not easily manipulated this brain so yes when you feel something supports it or something drains it you feel it in your heart so so that's why so many people are blocked in the heart so when that is blocked they don't they can't decipher what's good or what bad they're just you know lost this need to be freed this need to be that that this the fourth chakra need to be open and that's a work and you know but and remains open if the heart is the brain then what's the gut well the gut is the interpreter the gut has has its own brain and actually every and in the body and also the sexual centers the the sexual center is basically your your engine that's why this is the most tainted manipulated and corrupted chakra in in the planet why because

Starting point is 00:55:02 when you when these centers are open and free you're you cannot be manipulated it gives you enough power to control everything so when you introduce from form or whatever it is or the whole repression you name it that is to hurt the the second chakra which is your engine the engine is right between the heart called the you know the solar plexo the the feeling centers are right between your heart and your and your sexual centers so when that energy move up and down up and down when this is open you cannot be manipulated because your heart tells you and your engine gives you enough power to make the choices the the stomach or the solar plex or your or your gut is what interpreted that energy it gives you like an immediate pull push that's all you need

Starting point is 00:55:52 to feel it's binary whatever energy comes into you you know that it's yes whatever energy pulls out of you you know that it's a no so you basically have that inner compass so so your body is the most sensitive and that is being corrupted being corrupted through food through repressing why do you think soldiers what makes the age of 18 to 21 make soldiers so efficient the sexual energy is being basically funneled into either violence or you wouldn't do it when you're 50 that's when your potency is the most powerful you and it's been in all armies channel that energy into into um why and why in in in i'm not saying which countries but where religions repressed when you repress sexuality and you have to cover yourself and you have to kind of close these

Starting point is 00:56:50 chakras you are a sheep you are you you you have no access to your power so when your power comes out it turns so tainted and so corrupted that it actually able to create horrendous acts because it's a bottled up sexual energy that has been repressed

Starting point is 00:57:12 and you see that in those countries so these are very very wise mechanism to make us enslaved and not connect to our power and our choice is always to disconnect from those

Starting point is 00:57:28 that is our choice and when enough people collective mass disconnect you will change the whole equation and that's what what you are here to do i know that you know that but i'm just reaffirming that what what you do and and spreading that vibration that frequency and that potential for for humanity to to chain itself if we are not cooperating no one no system will survive it needs a collaborating and cooperating subject yes when when enough people will say we are not part of that system that system will not survive no system will survive yes that's the end game it's called the end game that's the best game ever exactly right

Starting point is 00:58:20 wow this has been one of the most fascinating and important conversations i've ever had on this podcast so i i send you a huge hug for your birthday and a huge thank you for your contribution to me and my listeners but also to the world where can people follow you and what do you want to share with them before we move to the next part of showing them your work and what you've done in the healing center right i have a website the beehives i have a healing center and um and i think my advice is um that whenever you have something that is that really scares you that really really scares you know that there's a gift there always look for the gift not in that gate and and and consider consider dying into that process

Starting point is 00:59:26 because dying into the process is the only way to being reborn you cannot reborn without dying so not knowing is a power learn to learn to not know and trust that the universe is actually conspiring to support you in every single way when you move into your light into your truth when you're off of it you're off the grid of the support when you're in your light everything will support you so that's all that's that's all that's amazing sir thank you so much wow really a pleasure and so i'm gonna add links to your websites in the show notes and if people want to join any of your retreats

Starting point is 01:00:13 they can contact you through the website yeah cool I can personally recommend I've done the one in Mexico and it was amazing I haven't done the other ones but it was a pleasure having you

Starting point is 01:00:29 happy birthday thank you don't celebrate no I will So, Dron has something very unique in the way that he's able to make natural healing accessible for people that don't come from that world and don't know much about natural medicine and natural healing. And so, when I came here for the first time and saw you, it was like a coincidence but

Starting point is 01:01:01 it wasn't because this is so natural that you'd be here and work with the people that are here healing people so can you tell our viewers why you're here and a bit about your background I think that if you're serious about doing any healing work and work with trauma and I have a few places to be in the world there's no place I would rather be than here now and I think this is a calling it's it It feels more true to my essence and to the essence of the inner calling to be here and I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. I feel like this is where I'm meant to be and I had a full schedule like anyone else

Starting point is 01:01:49 and I cleared everything and I'm here until I feel I'm no longer needed. I grew up in a kibbutz and I served in the army and I always feel like there was a part of me that was a stranger here and this is the first time in my life ever that I feel fully at home wow in Israel in Israel in in the in one of the darkest time yes I feel that the amount of light created is so vast and the amount of people goodness charity beauty that comes out of the ashes of of this horrendous uh massacres death destruction and has such a potential to to change their life as we know it here in this country and i think in the world eventually i think this is just the first ripple and i would i really would not want to be anywhere else and you don't live

Starting point is 01:02:46 in israel usually you live in mexico i have a few homes but yeah and a few other places around the in New York and now you feel yourself being here so what have you done since you came here to the healing space I work with trauma in my healing centers I have three healing centers in Italy New York and in Mexico and I felt that the field of trauma with grief it was so strong that caretakers the facilitators were getting sick themselves they at some point like a tuning fork that created sound the energy was so heavy that he was like holding the tuning fork in your hand it stopped vibrating it doesn't make the sound anymore so I work

Starting point is 01:03:33 with caretakers and we do process of cleansing and clearing before and after their work in order to enable them to do their work because at some point if you don't clear the heavy field even if you're the best healer in the world that field of grief sadness and trauma gets stuck into your electromagnetic field and it just basically becoming heavier and heavier and heavier until you're no longer even if you say the same words you do not transmit the same energy anymore and you're useless so I work I work with that and I created an area where it's mainly for the facilitators to transmute the heavy energy for the facilitators

Starting point is 01:04:22 and for this whole land. And it has to do with about a million bees and a lot of other technology. Hold on, a million bees, right? There are beehives here. There's a million bees, crystals, copper geometry that looks like the Star of David. there's a singing tree eucalyptus that actually sing it's basically basically the the energy of the eucalyptus is translator into sound and when you go in there all you need to be to be there 11 minutes and it clears your heavy energy

Starting point is 01:05:01 and transmute it and this is a technology of nature you it's it's neutralize the the cognitive cerebral activity so you can't resist it you can't you just lie there it clears you out. Can you take me there later? I want to do it. Okay it's working now. Good. And it's it's a technology of nature it's the only one in the world that created it for here and what happened is that you think of a million bees flying out for a radius of about two and a half miles and come back so they fly they collect bee pollen and nectar so they come inside into that hexagon that is the healing center and out in and out so when they come in they charge that area that is being

Starting point is 01:05:48 designated as a facilitator's transmutation or alchemy area and on when they way out they send vibration of love and unity which that's bees the whole idea is unity consciousness and everyone in the beehive is for one yes there's no ego there's no fights on jobs it's it's all unity consciousness everything that they do has to do with integration so what happened that the beehives here is almost like the septic transmutation area for the whole land the heaviness comes in way survivors of the nova massacres and they leave the energy here that center transmutes it so it keeps it so that this place can continue to vibrate and and be constantly cleansed because

Starting point is 01:06:37 otherwise it's like sewage that is overrun yes if you have too much darkness and it's not being um it doesn't have a way to evacuate it it will it will overflow and it will it will it will not be useful anymore and every that's what the mayan do all the time they clean they clear it's they they kept the space pristine so this will keep the place pristine for hundreds of people to go through the process so though what are you seeing you know for me speaking to you knowing that you're here hearing about the work that you're doing with it's kind of originating creating the very essence the very source of the ripple effect of the healing right you're you're starting something and you're also clearing out you know the the the negative energies that are coming through here

Starting point is 01:07:30 but as the source of new regenerative healing energy that you are one of its creators where do you see this center going in terms of you know your your bigger vision of taking us as humanity to a place where we can actually start looking at healing people in a different way because this is this is one project right and i know you always think big and that you you also care a lot about how can we make a change in the world in a way that will kind of educate people to appreciate the the natural way of healing again I think that normally we think of allopathic medicine as the cure of all and here something that Leah with her vision created Dr. Liano. So my feeling that

Starting point is 01:08:35 everything that we do now we have to reinvent ourselves which means that we cannot repeat anything that we know is the easiest solution. Everything has to be not knowing and being willing to listen and find different solutions because we have to reinvent the wheel and I think reinventing the wheel for me can ripple in my world, can ripple into the world a new way of looking into trauma, a new way of resolving and creating peace and harmony that has to do with natural spaces and has to do with less medication or medicating and has to do more with holistic and finding something that really touches our heart. And I don't know where it's going, but I think it's as exciting as it gets. And I think

Starting point is 01:09:27 that I really wouldn't want to be anywhere else and I'm curious to see where it's going and I feel that what is being created here is historical in nature and and and we need courage many people like you yeah people know we need people I'm serious we need people like you to to be in the forefront of this and spread the word yeah we do we do need more people with courage we just need people to rediscover their courage because everyone has it we just so so um we're surrendering to fear so much in our daily lives and we need to exercise being courageous because we all have it thank you for for saying that yeah yeah that's a beautiful concept

Starting point is 01:10:17 the only reason why i am perceived as courageous is because i don't surrender to my fear That's courage. I do have fear, but I don't… That's courage. Yeah, exactly. Or the definition of courage. Yeah, we all experience fear, but… Exactly.

Starting point is 01:10:31 It's not like I don't have fear. I do, but I don't let it run me. I take it with me and I do it anyway. So that's what we need and we need people like you and Lia to run places like this and to bring that vision forward. Thank you. Thank you so much for doing what you're doing, for being who you are, for people here and around the world. We're sitting here. For me, this is like an origin or a base of energy of what we're seeing here.

Starting point is 01:11:03 So this space is like entering the cell of the bee. It's hexagon. The cell of the bee is the most efficient cell in the planet in the sense of spatial intelligence. geometric shapes yeah okay and inside of it it's embedding the star of david so hexagon is actually um kind of like it's within it the star of david is created from the angles from the apex of the corners. So this is all based on geometry and the healing power of bees and the tree and the shape of the geometric shape of sacred geometry. There's a lot of components. So there is about a million bees participating, the Calypso's tree. There is a copper cable underneath here that creates what you call a Merkabah or a three-dimensional Star of David.

Starting point is 01:12:11 There's nine crystals. The number nine is the number of completion. So when you come in, you come in discombobulated or broken and you come out complete. The crystals create as kind of an amplifier and a battery charger of the energy that is being created by the the bees collecting nectars and bee pollen bringing into the the healing area the music of the plants that actually invoke dmt like almost like a medicine and ancestral medicine which disconnect or neutralize the cerebral cognitive activity which mean that you don't deal with anxiety you don't deal with the past or the future you're completely in the now even if you want to you can't it just creates that energy the million bees actually they're the electromagnetic frequency of a million

Starting point is 01:13:10 bees is basically create they're all about unity consciousness so the hum or the energy is basically creates a bubble that reconnects parts that have been disconnected so if the heart or the trauma creates a separation of the soul of whatever the psychological breakage in the wholeness of our being the energy of the bezel that is around us brings it all together whether we want it or not it clears it and neutralize it the eucalyptus what it does besides singing beautifully actually this tone is means clearing the eucalyptus actually like does the transmutation of dark heavy toxic energy into life-giving energy which means it does it through co2 into oxygen it does it through use humus or fertilizer or rotten leaves or whatever into

Starting point is 01:14:09 creating fertilizer and use it to growth and it does it also energetically what it does is it takes all this energy through its trunk and deliver it to Gaia deliver it into the earth and basically being transmuted into a life-giving so this is actually taking the energy of the whole compound because bees fly about five kilometers radius so think about a million bees sending their love energy or their their life-giving qualities all over the land comes back here recharges this going back recharging the land that movement the whole day is basically what keeps the whole compound clear and cleanse and

Starting point is 01:14:52 neutralize and transmuted so you can do you continue to do this work without overflowing and and this is mainly for caregivers so they will be able to continue to do their work yeah all they need to be here is 11 minutes and it's all based on 11 there's 22 hives 22 is the number of Christ consciousness which is love 22 is because it's my number and I never knew why it's all love it's pure love that's what 22 is okay now i know why 11 it's made out of it 22 okay 11 11 is the masculine and the feminine so there's 11 hives 11 hives 11 is the master number that is illumination and enlightenment so basically it creates um the one is rebirth is a new beginning and 11 11 and the

Starting point is 01:15:44 master number it has to do with coming into the full potential of humans so everything is geometrically based it's six meters it's all six meters by six meters so it's all based on the hexagon hexagonal energy of a moving into a b transmuting and coming back clear that's basically it thank you so much for sharing this Thank you.

You're The Voice | by Efrat Fenigson - Ep. 37: Dror Ashuah - Awakening 101

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