You're The Voice | by Efrat Fenigson - Ep. 68: Chris Sullivan - Money, Consciousness & The Battle for Freedom

Episode Date: February 28, 2025

My guest today is Chris Sullivan, a portfolio manager, charter market technician, and co-founder of Hyperion Decimus, one of the first liquid quantitative asset managers in digital assets. With a background in finance and a deep understanding of investor psychology, Chris is walking the path of awakening and higher consciousness, and sees Bitcoin as a tool for financial and personal freedom. We dive into spirituality, 5th generation warfare, the hidden truths of central banking, the psychological war on investors, and why reclaiming control over money is key to sovereignty. Chris shares his journey from traditional finance to Bitcoin, his thoughts on CBDCs, and how self-mastery and higher consciousness play a role in breaking free from the system.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn -- SPECIAL OFFERS –►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Enjoy the Little HODLer products, learn about sound money while having fun! use code EFRAT for 10% off on non-sale items: https://thelittlehodler.com/ ►► 10% off on all books & accessories at the “Bitcoin Infinity Store” - use code EFRAT►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Chris’ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-s-78753b44/Chris’ Twitter: https://x.com/HyperionDecimus Chris’ Website: https://www.hyperiondecimus.com Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 Coming Up…01:15 Introduction To Chris09:01 Surfing and Yoga: Chris’ Spiritual Path17:34 Transhumanism vs. Epigenetics & Living in Harmony with Nature 21:37 Efrat’s Awakening During Covid: A Journey to Enlightenment  32:47 Blocking EMFs: Science and Health 38:56 Freedom vs. Tyranny: The Real Battle  42:43  Propaganda of Hate and Division vs. a Journey of Self-Discovery  49:32 Divide and Conquer: How Religion Becomes a Weapon  54:17 Human Connections & Raising Your Frequency 59:06 Bitcoin as a Higher Consciousness  1:03:27 Chris’ Preparedness to a Fiat-less World  1:11:27 The Transition of World Powers & Reserve Currencies  1:15:00 The 5th Generation Warfare  1:23:41 Is Bitcoin Hijacked?  1:32:46 Being an Asset Manager in the Bitcoin Space1:36:38 Getting Debanked and Eliminating Central Banking1:45:27 How to Protect Your Wealth in Uncertain Times1:48:00 CBDCs: A Dystopian Monetary Order1:54:32 Individual Agency in Times of Crisis2:05:36 Chris’ Book & Podcast Recommendations 2:12:14 A Message of Hope

It all starts with good parents, good family values, right? And they gave me enough of a leash to tether me to a pursuit of knowledge, wisdom. But they also had a long enough leash so that I was able to make, you know, significant quantity of mistakes over time. And that, honestly, is probably the best way to learn. I thrive in bear markets. I look forward to pain. I look forward to being able to separate from everyone else.

because it's really weaknesses in psychology that harm investors. And here, bringing forward today, I think it's perhaps the weakest humanity has ever been. I think what dialed me into the metaphysical and spiritual side is definitely a combination of surfing and yoga. Be gentle and be kind, but be a warrior. Know that you're powerful. Know that you're free and you have free will. And don't let, for men, anybody in your life tell you what to do.

And for everyone else, just rebel against tyranny, because as the American forefathers said, rebellion and tyranny is obedience to God. All right, we're live. Hello and welcome to another episode of You're the Voice. Thanks for being with me. I'm Efrat. And today I have the pleasure of having Christopher Sullivan. Hey, Chris. Hi, thank you for having me. It's an honor to be here.

Thank you for being with me. I'm super stoked and excited about this one because, and I'll share why, I have discovered Chris only a few weeks ago. I'm sorry. went it was a i watched a um recording of your panel at the bitcoin naples day uh in florida and uh i'm watching it on the big screen sitting on my couch like having the best time and then you start talking and paul which i know paul i've met him and i love him and i didn't know john either and john is also oh yeah he's great and you start talking and i go there's another one another ice bucket another sledgehammer on their heads he's like truth bombs one after the other and i loved it and i was like okay i gotta talk to that guy so i reached out i

looked you up you're not on twitter so i found you on linkedin and i i wrote straight away i have to have you on the podcast and people know and i'm sorry in advance for everyone that asks to be on my podcast because there are many people like that especially after I interviewed Michael Saylor well southern manners prevent me from that sort of megalomania and very into karma serendipity etc and like exactly it would defeat the purpose of actually trying to give wisdom and truth and share that with you if hey can I get on your podcast and promote myself or and I don't have anything to promote i have truth to promote that that's it right and i yes i i agree with you i'm the same and i and i love when it happens that way anyway i normally say no to a lot of people

or just say not now because i do have a very long waiting list and also i have a lot of episodes that i've already recorded that i'm putting out there so it takes me time and with you it was like dropping pen i don't care i just have to talk to you there's no pressure no pressure no pressure no i just feel that we have so much to talk about and after watching that great panel which by the way i will put a link to that panel in the show notes because it was such a great one and i encourage everyone to go watch it but i um i just felt like i wanted to talk to you i wanted to ask you more stuff I wanted to develop some of those ideas with you some of the things that you've said there and then I went on to watch some of your other stuff so I watched you with

with Robert Breedlove which was already on my podcast as well I love Robert and and that was so different it was so different but also I watched you with Gary Cardone and that was also very different and and very good very different so i love how you bring out different sides of you depending on the audience depending on the conversation and i think in this specific conversation now we're gonna touch on like where those things meet somewhere between your profession and your love for numbers finance and and the real world to the metaphysical world and spirituality and your vision in life and what guides you well invert or change i in my view is that that's the real i agree oh yeah sure real i'm sorry yeah the metaphysical the spiritual

i agree the frequency i meant the earthy right right it's it's like i kind of separate it from the construct to natural law and order like those are the human construct is one thing and then the natural order supersedes that um and you can call there's many different word matrix versus spirituality or metaphysical it doesn't really matter because it's all just sequences of math that conform to sacred geometry and you know fibonacci so it's It's they all do interweave and that's very brilliant of you to put those together. And I'm humbled that you recognize that I am trying to add value from any vector that I can through my experience, both as an asset manager, portfolio manager and as a human being, because I've I've lived a lot of life in 43 years. You're the Voice is brought to you by Trezor, the original Bitcoin hardware wallet company pioneering the development of self-custody for crypto assets since 2013, empowering individuals with an open source device, enabling beginners and experts to easily and securely hold their coins.

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I want to tell them that Chris is a portfolio manager and co-founder of, let's see if I get it right, Hyperion Decimus. Perfect. Yes. Right? Okay. One of the first liquid quantitative asset managers in digital assets. he's a charter market technician avid surfer musician and yogi proud father and husband

and i'd love for you to share a little bit about your journey and what got you to today in this reincarnation yeah i'm trying to not have that happen again right that's that's the goal is to i'm with you yeah people that aren't ready to hear i'm really gonna dismiss is really gonna dismiss that wait the moon is what um so i i you know i just it all starts with kind of good parents good family values right and they gave me enough of a leash to tether me to a pursuit of knowledge wisdom but they also had a long enough leash so i was able to make you know significant quantity of mistakes over time and that honestly is probably the best way to learn whether it's in trading or it's in relationships or it's in sports right like it it transcends kind of all

of humanity to learn from making mistakes and you don't really learn from winning right um and through that i actually like with respect to markets i thrive in bear markets i look forward to pain i look forward to being able to separate from everyone else because it's really weaknesses and psychology that harm investors and here bring forward today i think it's perhaps the weakest humanity's ever been psychologically or at least the most vulnerable might be a more nice kind way of saying it um because we've been gaslit and propagandized for at least a few hundred years if not a few thousand and the magnitude of it through technological advancements and then the absence of technological advancements that we've had 150 170 years ago has really made us

more susceptible yeah but i think what dialed me into the metaphysical and spiritual side is definitely a combination of surfing and yogi yoga like those practices when you understand what the addiction side of surfing is and that your waves are have amplitudes which is the distance between each peak and then they have a frequency right it's transformation of energy from the atmosphere onto the surface of the ocean and there's an equal distance of wave above the water and below the water and how the bottom contour shapes the wave as it approaches shore is all this beautiful physics and geometry then when you catch a wave what you have to do is match the speed of it and what my translation of the sort of mindlessness and then the linking with

energy is that you catch up to the frequency of the wave and become one with it and there's something so ethereal and spiritual about it that's why people tell you like there are people who surf and then there are surfers that's a huge distinction right and through knowing music the frequency translation was really simple um i'm pretty decent musician and play a lot of instruments so knowing your circle of this modalities and tonalities and then the shapes that they produce and both visually and in like i'm sure you've seen the videos of the sand where certain frequencies make these beautiful sure the way the way sound influences water and particles and everything yeah it it's every it's everything everything of course sound there's feeling and

sound um a lot of how sent because trees are sentient um a lot of how they communicate is going to sound and they can change it their tonality of that frequency based on your own emotions really really epic um the beauty of nature so then you get into yoga which honestly i did to pick up girls when i was younger that was my first and some people are going to like that or not like it but that is the the humble truth and i was like wait a minute this is i'm recovering faster i'm it almost opens your chakras further to experience take in more information And so I think that was both humbling and then the physicality of it was great. Then I, okay, so you read Diary of a Yogi, and then I got way into Bikram, and that brings you through all this pathway of education that's just not brought forward in both Eastern and Western education systems.

I mean, that's probably one of the main problems when you get below the central banks is that we're not even being taught the beauty of humanity for the last, call it 6,000 years of history. um and then so that goes to college where i did study history and then i had a professor who's like nope what you're taught here in high school is not right it's propaganda rockefellers did it here read this and it was like the opposite of what oh wow that sounds like an unusual professor yeah nowadays it's very hard to find people like that he's since passed away right i think he was 76 in 2003 to 2005 where i was studying under him um but it was amazing and then that brought me down a path of um okay how do you put the classics the stoics the history of histories like a herodotus a plato a cicero and bring them forward to really what i think is

the problem like what i can kind of siphon upwards towards is that without the ability to conjure money whether you call it usury whether you call it western central banking or you call it cabal whatever the word is you want to use very similar to there's very names various names for extraterrestrials right they could be anunnaki they could be demons they could be nephilim right words for the same thing different words for the same thing right um that's how i i think you're the first person that said the word anunnaki on my podcast it's all or nothing now this is our time so yeah again i i have no fear i'm very blessed uh with wife and kids good business great business partners great clients so i have only joy and and the attempt to share

wisdom so how anybody critiques it i can i care less i'm not on social media because i am no keep going my stage is yours this is perfect um okay anunnaki that's a whole different but anyway to interrupt you there it was just but as as you're going down pathways of enlightenment or chasing wisdom or truth you then kind of back away and appraise the information well you might say anunnaki they say the grays somebody says nephilim and somebody says kermes right well that's just potentially i'm not saying you can definitively say this but that's potentially just a different human experience of the same thing right whether it's corporeal or tangible we can argue or debate right it doesn't really matter because even if it's not if you're

experiencing that way it's still reality to you right that's great you just um you make me um think about um graham hancock and his work right and like the ancient apocalypse and so you know you you see all these evidence for ancient human civilization and various cultures describing very similar phenomenas and and um very similar um characters in history and he kind of weaves the thread between them and shows you how possibly they could be the same like everyone's talking about the same kind of uh um phenomenas or the same kind of characters and they're just each describing it in their own um local flavor um and no one knows anyway and we it's it's hard to tell whether yeah so you just reminded me of that and then what is knowing i

mean you can go down the descartes path right exactly and then or emmanuel kant like it's it's really important to expose yourselves to the classics because we're carl jung the austrian economist because you can't i couldn't make any sense of what's going on or has gone on if i didn't have all the tools that people were so kind to share with us by writing them down and then then you get conscious of the fact that so much of history was destroyed and destroyed on purpose that's heartbreaking because how how are we supposed to frame evolution of our thought process our culture our economies our communities if we don't have the data and the stories of the past like yeah one thing that's being lost that really i'm conscious of and is sad now is like

all of these beautiful cultures that have the ones you were citing whether it's mayan or it's or it's various you know thousands of tribes in amazon or it's different sex of the vikings right from a century and a half ago all of these wonderful ways of viewing the world a lot of it kind of homeopathic naturopathic right um they would people would call it pagan but i'm not really looking at it through that lens and there's there's never not something you can't learn from it and so whitewashing it and or eliminating it or gaslighting people that it didn't even happen i don't really want to dive into the agenda behind that but it's just very frustrating because there's so many beautiful cultures all over the planet my favorite's actually pacific islander

but that's i'm biased uh because of surfing um like the maori i think those people are they're just my favorite so have you spent time there yeah yeah tahiti fiji hawaii wow yeah it's it's just a special culture that and same with like aborigines australia that it's just it's just dwindling so quickly that and same with nordic culture like that's dwindling that's less numbers than there were 50 years ago that i was like how do we preserve that is one thing i'm thinking about um because epigenetics is a huge thing and you don't have to be like an authoritarian megalomaniac person to go hey maybe we should make sure some of these bloodlines are preserved so that we have diversity of genealogy

so that the cultures of those genealogies live on to help us learn from one another. It doesn't have to be a bad thing. Yeah, I'm curious about that fine line between genetic modifications and transhumanism to epigenetics. That's what they're fighting against. They're fighting against the natural epigenetics

and they they wanted to base us from they want to really separate the the soul from the mechanical machine because we are electrical beings right and that's where the transhumanist thing comes out it's removing the god essence from each of our bodies essentially yeah and uh by the way if you can get closer to the microphone that would be great yeah or have it closer to you yeah um um you know we already touched on it so so let's let's uh dive for a second so the whole i think that what we're seeing now um and and i am quite surprised to be honest with you that this is happening so fast what we're seeing now uh with the rise of um um all the technocrats around uh trump and um and this is just the u.s but you know you have

these seeds all around the world that will now rise up thanks to the um to to the backing of the u.s um and they will push forward the singularity agenda the the transhumanism the fact that we are reaching that point in humanity where you know it's inevitable that machines and humans will will merge to some extent and they will they will normalize it more and more i mean they have been normalizing it already for the past i think almost 15 20 years but now it's like on steroids yeah you could argue it was when they started using you know anything orthopedic right right but yeah okay yeah i didn't think about that that's when they they started desensitizing oh we're gonna put machines or components or machinery inside of your body

and so that's where it's deep is desensitizing it so you even see that's a interesting question do you even see like a pacemaker as uh yeah that's i have very like rigid rules on that that most people will not like to hear but because i'm very set for like a zero intervention in the human body yeah uh you should see my medical director yeah wow okay interesting and and why do you think that there is no good cause to interfere with biology it's just my view from my yeah yeah it's good as a relative term and subjective term yeah for you yeah you said in your no i don't do it as good or bad i'm just not doing it i i like i don't want to have any intrusion into nature basically in my and this is why you know stop drinking stop taking try to

limit or reduce anything that's going to harm any aspect of how your mitochondria work how your brain works unfortunately we're getting sprayed constantly from oh sure angle that it's very hard to continually detox from that but um you know it's just just my view i don't i don't want if you're meant to go you're meant to go and because i'm not afraid to go like just transition it's this a trend is this transition why augmented yeah a hundred percent a thousand percent i'm i'm like you and and um in fact i i think i i was always like you but i never gave it the time of day to actually think about it and make a conscious decision because i was so normie for so many years and and didn't stop to think about it until covet came and woke me up and then i started

looking at everything in my life everything so you were asking me before so yeah what if you don't mind me asking you sure because a lot of people do cite that as the pathway split can you highlight or maybe itemize what snapped it and and make make you kind of arise out of what was already internal to you yeah um i think it was a combination of um so many people telling me what to do so many times in such a short period of time being certain that they can command me to do so many things in such a short period of time including family friends government like

it came from everywhere and i think that pressure i never like to be told what to do anyway right but then when it came all like in a in an orchestrated campaign and bombarded me that plus a combination of being a marketeer and watching normie television and seeing as a as a pr communications marketing person seeing the orchestrated campaign that was just running across the world with the same messaging points with the same call to action for everyone like as a marketeer it was like you know flashing lights what's happening here why are they all doing the same thing saying the same thing pushing people to do the same thing there is a marketing campaign in act now i have to figure out why so there it was that and there was the the pressure

the social pressure together i think it popped me like popcorn stop everything start researching what's going on here and that i think that just is really a turning point for everyone is the magnitude but do you think because it's not like these forces weren't in control before do you think it was pure hubris that they allowed the magnitude to permeate so globally or do you think they just didn't care because they have all the control and power because anybody could see wait they're saying in phoenix arizona the same exact lines they're saying in new zealand or israel or russia wait how are they the exact same line said in the exact same tonality right yeah conscious wise i think that they reached the hubris point where they started they they took it

too far and they um they were so sure of themselves and their powers that they thought they could do every anything and it will it will flow it will go everything will be accepted they reached such a level of um complacency and uh not giving a fuck about people yeah that they they just pushed it too far and it made too many people wake up like me like i would probably not wake up if it was not that sophisticated and that orchestrated and that uh um synchronized between everyone um and you know maybe i would have because this was really exaggerated but um but it was i think it's hubris yes i think it's uh they're getting it from every angle now it's amazing oh yeah people from the cdp yesterday i mean and then did that awakening do you mind if i keep continue

asking you keep going because i know you mentioned miss dolores cannon who everybody who knows so that it should come i think it's in virginia beach most people don't know who she is well but it's there's like edward casey and her are part of the stopping points along the road to enlightenment right and there are there are venues and and and same thing we have bitcoin conferences right or truth there's there's places to go to learn this kind of stuff and i'm curious did you know about her beforehand or this was okay the globalist triggers your hey you guys are evil sons of guns i'm looking into everything so when when did you get to that because that's like my my spiritual awakening started very shortly after my informational awakening let's call it that way

i think a few months later i started like a good friend of mine asked me do you know what the third, fourth, fifth dimension is. Have you heard of that? And I'm like, no, teach me. I was in such a sponge mode that I just wanted to know everything, learn everything. I was open to everything. I still am. It never stopped since it started five years ago. And I was like, teach me anything that someone comes to me and tells me. Have you heard of this? Do you know about that? I'm like, no, hit me up. And then I use my discernment. Does it feel right or wrong? Or can i connect it with other things can i take can i use this is it good for me do i leave it aside or do do i just hold it as a point of information so that i can then work with it later if i need to

so she said that and then you know she gave me information and i started going down the spirituality rabbit hole it's not a rabbit hole it's like a hole it's a beautiful world and um yeah and i didn't stop since and i was exposed to more and more um very smart people spiritual teachers and uh and channelers and and people who channel extraterrestrials and all kinds of uh like people like barbara marciniak and obviously laurie ladd and and elizabeth april they're like the more modern ones but uh but also the like the the the good old um like the ogs there are i mean time you know and just just for your audience because a lot of people um aren't aware of this there's a a network that you can get on an app or on your smart tv called gaia

yes archived quite a bit of this over the last a few decades and it has a range of literally physical yoga workouts to seeing people channel real time um and everything in between um there's some great history um god is that irish guy who is kind of like graham hancock i forget his name he's one of my favorite guys uh on gaia man he's gonna be mad i forgot his name but anyways it's a wonderful uh education platform if you're if you're scratching the surface yeah if you want to learn more and and get access to those people and their content definitely you can do it there or you can just start buying books or you have to go to the books too because the books are sure you have to Dolores yeah I mentioned her because and when I I got to

her after like a year or two down my journey and the funny thing was that when when I was um i think i was 34 35 and my grandfather passed away that was 10 years ago more yeah i was probably 33 back then i'm almost 45 i sat down with uh my psychologist at the time i used to go to a psychologist once every two weeks for like a good two or three years and she was awesome like she was um not your typical psychologist because i could speak to her about everything and anything and she came up with all these first of all she spoke and it wasn't just like me talking and she gave me some practical advice but also she gave me some advice a bit similar to your history professor she was like different you know a bit out of the box kind of psychologist and so when

i told her about some of the questions i have about my grandfather and death and and my grandma and my grandfather and they're both like deciding to leave this earth whenever they did and so on and she told me you know what there's a book you should read and and she gave me that book um by dr brian wise if you've heard of him it's called um i'm translating from hebrew um lessons and and roots in time something like that and it talks about uh reincarnations he was doing a hypnotherapy to he he's a psychiatrist that was doing hypnotherapy um to his uh to some of his patients that there was nothing else that he could do to help them so he was trying that and by mistake he took them back to previous reincarnations helped them resolve some of

the issues they had in previous life and when he brought them back the the stuff that they were dealing with and this was like really hard shit it went away like it completely disappeared and so she gave me that book and I'm like wow that's amazing that is that real like there is such a thing as reincarnations and she got got me exposed to that already 10 or 12 years ago but I never and i did read a few books of his but i never you know i never took it forward too much because i was still busy that gave you the pathway right like subconsciously because the same thing okay i was trying to be a zen surfer and then okay i was into yoga and music that was teeing it up to be able to go through exactly and that's why i believe that everything we do in life has a

purpose and a timing and it's it's all very accurate to prepare us for what's coming and so 12 years onwards when i saw dolores cannon for the first time and listened to her everything she said just made so much sense clicked for sure yeah because that's what she does she does like um hypnotherapy to people taking them back to past lives and she calls the past life regressions i think and it's just uh yeah it's insane and she doesn't even call herself a therapist she calls herself a journalist because she views her role as someone who is collecting data and information from all these therapies that she's doing and then crossing the the information cross-referencing the information from all patients getting similar experiences and

similar stories and that validates for her that these things are actually are happening or you know they're probably closer to the truth than than we think truth is is what you make of it right i'm not saying it's subjective but okay if we'll walk through like the quantitative way to to use deductive reasoning okay if we're if the rolling consensus is that epigenetics which passes through your y chromosome carries about 20 generations or slash lifetimes of dna memory in it well then okay we're going to then call that in the regression sense we're going to be able to go back through your 20 reincarnations and find trauma within your bloodline maybe you're not your soul exactly but either way as we say in music that's good enough for rock and roll to

have a working premise and a working thesis and it actually goes right right in the direction of logic and reason based on the the science that we have and that's what like what i really dislike about a lot of the covid bs is that they try to oversell you for science which is obviously anti-scientific to say that when the spirituality and scientific actually mirror each other because you can't have one without the other okay listen one doesn't oppose the other oh sure a hundred percent i have to send you to watch this okay i'm gonna send you the link after we finish and you have to go watch this amazing interview i've watched several interviews of his already with a wonderful human called federico fagan he's the inventor of the cpu and a physicist

and he's researching quantum and uh yeah this this is going to blow your mind it's all about consciousness and science so he's like that's what he does like he's a physicist and he's have a device in my office that's using quantum entanglement inside the box right now amazing it blocks emf you want me to go grab it i can go grab it oh yes please all right designer's gonna kill me but might as well educate people so just seeing this one yeah go on tell me about it leela q l-e-e-l-a-q yeah and how we came about like because my wife's she's her approach was a different uh angle than mine but um through like transcendental ned type stuff is where she came in um but you know we're conscious that new death experience is it okay we're conscious that

we're bombarded with radiation right you can't i mean people need to look up um sabrina wallace just find everything she does oh oh boy and she's kind of the most um transparent about there's plenty of people before her right that that exposed this in the 90s but currently if you can get some of her information she'll turn you on real quick but internet of bodies correct and we've got a biofield blah blah blah um so with young kids that became okay not just about us so we got into faraday technology but that only does a little bit this son of a gun and there's many different products i i highly recommend and then i'm wearing dr seems art crystal which i highly recommend uh-huh that's the only thing i have for blocking emf i have a few of them

spread around the house yeah and their crystals are conscious um and sentient too which is crazy anywho um not crazy beautiful i guess is the right word this has like a 300 yard radius blocking but what's inside of here is quantum entanglement right in front of us it's radical it's inside these rare earth minerals and they effectively like imprint the technology into the metal and you can even put your cell phone in it it reverses the polarity like this do it 30 seconds because it'll blow up i support you look go on the site there's tons of research supporting it we've got multiple sizes of these uh-huh can heal organs and you put them really and you put them all over yeah house office we have cards in the okay later you're gonna send me this

it's so epic um and even if it's placebo right assuming we're completely full of it your belief that it's working is enough for it to work like that's what's so powerful about the mind body um but i'm happy to i'll share you all those links but i will say that the whatever deep state globalist cabalist they're after the manufacturing of this of course they would be after anything that is like that if we have time in the end i'll show you a quick video of of this startup in the u.s that someone showed me yesterday that is using internet of bodies to surveil people and to kind of forecast or predict the next disaster or crime that will happen and give that data to the law enforcement it's quite wild minority report or right it sounds

like it but it's called um i saved it it's open here and no one's trying to stop that oh no it's called central command.com what do you mean stop that it's the agencies want to use that they use yeah but they technically work for us um yeah i i don't worry so much about that anymore who works for us technically all of the bureaucrats and i mean clearly they okay on paper they do i'll back that up so forgive me sorry i mean you're in yeah yeah i'm still like wait the constitution no they don't listen to that um but there's way more of us that we're going to overwhelm we are overwhelming i'm not pessimistic don't get me wrong i i'm i'm very optimistic about life and about humanity and i do believe that good people um exist everywhere

in every system and with them we can make a change so almost everyone is good it's really hard to be evil right that i think the um where people are at is not that they're bad it's that they're brainwashed yeah i mean they may be good at heart but they they'll be so brainwashed that they would do stuff that are bad like they would do bad things without understanding that they're bad of course you're right look at okay we will we had all these different bankers wars right from all the different empires for how many thousands of years and then wait neighbors in europe are going to kill each other like little boys those 18 19 year old boys said they had nothing to do with the political agendas of their masters right it's still going on now where young

men in ukraine and russia are being convinced to kill each other when they're two not even two percent different genealogy they everybody just wants a good meal a good you know a good life and nobody deviates from that but a few percentage points and somehow there's between one and two million boys that have died over what no that's horrible i know and so that's just a really radical example of what you just said for sure yeah i live in such a war zone i know i experience it here all the time the the young soldiers that are dying but obviously my neighbors here 30 000 or so or more of them including children and women and for what that's one of the reasons i yeah and i sent my son away from here for that yeah i don't want him to live here i don't want

him to go to the army that's why the only battle that's worth fighting is freedom versus tyranny oh yeah that's it and that's that's the battle we're in and we know who the tyrants are we know what agencies and bureaucracies and ngos they all have and it you know one part needs to be combating it with consciousness and truth and love and the other needs to be ready for physicality the good news is they're they they aren't athletes they're not they're not like you know that that overwhelming in terms of what physical force they could put on us look at look at the eu it's pathetic these people are screaming about elon telling the truth and like that's now okay it's racist it's non-constitutional it's threatening oh come on and i think that's also part and parcel

to hopefully emboldening the our european brothers and sisters into reacting like america like america's done with it it's it's really a breath of fresh air that's really good to see i'm really done with it they're never going to get a hold of this place again i hope so i hope this is there's too many there's 82 million of us with lots of guns ah you're lucky you have the second amendment for sure i'm lucky it's not luck right it's every person's right designed yeah you have a role and that's it well it's just we're not going to take it anymore and and just that needs to get to everywhere uk israel russia china i mean China, geez, those poor people too, that everybody just needs to be on the same side.

No person from Israel or China, we're not enemies with our constituent people. That's all up at this level, and people need to just understand that. Oh, yeah. They're so gaslit to believe that, and they're so brainwashed to hate. They're propagandized to hate. I see it around me every day, every single day. I hear people talk. I engage with them.

I mean, I try to engage as less as possible. But the propaganda is insane how it makes people hate each other and really be convinced that the other is your enemy. But why doesn't it work on you? It doesn't touch me. So many things don't touch me. it doesn't touch me because i am um i've completed and i am completing this is like an ongoing uh muscle that i have but i'm completing a lot of my my like dolores says garbage and baggage right

so i'm making space for first of all for new things but secondly for um i'm making space for peace I'm making space for for others because I am emptying myself out from my own crap my own traumas and I've been doing a lot of trauma work shadow work inner work whatever you want to call it for the past few years and already three years ago I think I have said I've come up and said it to my best friends I told them that's it I feel ready and they said what do you mean and I said well I feel like I've reached a point where I am privileged enough to first of all financially economically I'm fine like I've worked hard for many many years and I saved money and I'm okay it's not like I'm rich but I've got enough for me and my son and

And I feel like I'm safe and secured. And I have learned a lot. I have done a lot. I've worked really hard the past 20 years. I've gained a lot of experience. I have many, many skills. And I have done the trauma work and the shadow work to enable me to now fully be in service of humanity. Now I'm ready.

I can put myself aside and start working for you, for the public, for other people. and they were all like wow what are you gonna do you're gonna quit your job and i'm like it's gonna happen soon enough and you know little did i know within about a year less than a year it happened um because the universe heard me and brought it brought it quicker than i thought and then i i said okay this is it you got what you wanted you now have a clean slate what are you gonna do and there was no question it was clear that i am going to start working for people i'm going to now become a journalist and have a podcast and talk about everything i see and yeah and just and go go around the world and speak at conferences and expose truths and

just like speak speak my my truth and and show expose whatever is hidden and whatever is not being told and i made this my profession yeah i commend you bless you your courage wisdom not not a lot can attain that and then recognizing and and you know what i get this i'm here as a charitable offering of whatever anybody can add i can add value to anybody's uh viewpoint or or hopefully de-stress their their situation that's ideally what i'd like to achieve but you've been through those cycles of of the emotional pain because what when you do when you are faced with wait a minute everything i learned was bullshit it's traumatic oh sure it really is traumatic sure and there were times where i felt horrible and and i wanted yeah for

sure i saw the black pill path i saw it i didn't want to take it i i mean i want you to take that oh sure i experienced hardship during that time oh yeah it's um and me too i was guilty of it because you almost went on a call out to the world hey look look look look look what look what thomas jefferson's had but it's in the letter and they didn't nobody's taught that blah blah blah you could it's a million examples but getting from that point to where you are now is a massive achievement. And then you're also super blessed because you're in a space of gratitude and harmony, which is super good for your son and really any friends and family that are around you. And I'm just very humbled to be around that because it's not common.

Like me and my wife almost have a little bubble and we have a few friends that are at our level um and all trying to achieve it but even my kids are getting ridiculed for what i've said oh sure at school and at their school and that's starting to happen and that that's a different type of vector of pain or frustration than i've ever had um because i never thought me just trying to tell people my experience that it would hurt my kids because it's supposed to do the opposite right in terms of intent but you know people are mean um so where you've gotten to yeah not hiding a lot of that. Sure. It's hard. And, you know, my reaction is getting admittedly a little shorter in the views. But, you know, try and continue to evolve so that that can sustain at least. But I think

that we're going to see quite a bit of disruption and not everybody's going to make it to the other side. That's just the way it's going to go down. I agree a hundred percent. And I think that one of the things that is becoming clearer and clearer to me as i go is that like the you know the ultimate question of who i am you know of why am i here for what's my purpose um it becomes so clear to me all the time and the fact that i have chosen to you know come here as a israeli jewish living in israel being very global speaking another language having all the skills i have verbalizing myself from a very very young age this is all like it all led me to now this is it's such a gift to to understand why i am the way i am and why i chose to be here

and being a having that perspective of you know my grandparents being holocaust survivors being someone that is not hating any Arab people I don't hate I know that's strange for people to hear right as an Australian yeah I know but for most people not for you for sure but I'm laughing as I as I think of people's reaction as they listen to me say it it's like really she's not She doesn't, you know, the automatic pilot goes in their head and they go, what? But there are anti-Semitism over there and people hate her everywhere. And she's not afraid of, you know, Arabs. It doesn't work all that bullshit on me. It's not like I am naive and I don't see that there are people with like crazy ideas out there. it exists but it exists everywhere and the fact that now it's fashionable to blame it on this group and not that group it's just a changing fad when the group in charge is the one directing those narratives oh exactly and being part of the group that is now everyone hates the jews and the

zionists and all that and so much noise and so much of it is so stupid and so um it's just a waste of time and energy people aren't recognizing that that this isn't the first time that that's happened where the you know and i'm not really qualified to talk about this because i don't come from that background but i have obviously brothers and sisters who are from that faith and spirituality and it's not the first instance in history where their uh grace their consciousness is weaponized against them oh sure now because all of it's a construct and forgive me folks but religion is complete bullshit faith is not um that's just the way it goes like whether you call it you know the vatican the pharisees the sanhedrin it's all the same thing ladies and

gentlemen just is and so that's a divide and conquer construct i we take any book but i'll pick on the bible 65 000 edits between the 5th century and the 14th century 65 000 edits on the old testament the entirety right and so you know it's there's vast amounts of scripture missing from the old testament which is a 9th or 10th or 12th derivative of the emerald tablets of toth right or the sumerian right because they're just regurgitating the same story and like okay priests rabbis allahs whatever they're all gonna get pissed but i don't i don't really care your dance is one of evil and divisiveness and your rules are inputted in we already can see natural law nature is the expression of the uh you know us people we call it source right but and reality is

an expression of source and you can you're entitled to believe whatever you want but but religion and politics are the divide and conquer modalities period i'm with you i'm with you sensitive you ask me so how does it not work on you that's why it doesn't work on me because i can see through that bullshit and because i can identify the next divide and conquer it's everywhere it's everywhere and all the time and what people what i think my experience from wall street and asset management where that that ties into this is like folks do you realize that there's one group conjuring money making you poor do you also recognize that the world is magnificent we live in abundance and with current technology i mean we there's nothing there's no

reason to have any pain any suffering whatsoever all of it's a construct and you just first opt out mentally and spiritually and then we unite physically and get rid of it see it's it's not that hard we're almost there chris listen we're almost like 50 minutes speaking and i haven't even asked you one question because i've prepared so many and i must so i don't care this is gonna be a well i'm very curious like i don't i don't get a huge opportunity to do what you're doing And so because your viewpoint is so important to my experience and understanding, like it's an honor to get to ask because I'm just curious, like you've got really good energy, really good power. And it didn't come poof, like you had to build on it. And that's a process that most people aren't willing to take.

And so I super commend you for that. Thank you so much. I appreciate it so much. And I now know why I wanted to speak to you. I just wanted to spend time with like-minded people and be in the fifth dimension. I love that feeling, you know, not the 12th or 13th, only the fifth. How do you know, do you have a thermometer thing?

Knowing is I know, I know nothing. Right. But I threw some transcendental meditation where you're pulling up your energy to your seventh, which is roughly then capped by your biofield, which you could call also a halo, which is really neat how all these things are are correlated um i think that it's a combination of temperature literal vibration yes and then peace yes and there's a stillness to it there is a audio quality to it um and i can't pinpoint fourth fifth whatever but i i think somewhere where you go hey this is about a 20 increase or a 30 increase and just keep trying to push up that

upper boundary um i love that you are explaining it in in physical terms because i um this is something i'm contemplating with and i always love thinking about it i um since the age of 16 until um until a few years ago i used to every now and then i used to faint and um and you know i went to doctors and they said i had nothing and they were like maybe it's like the balance between water and salt in your body and and low blood pressure and you need to do this and that and da da da and nothing felt right about what they said and they could never give me an answer that would satisfy me and i just stayed with the question the open question of why do i faint and what happens to me when i faint and as it kept on going

and i i recognized i started identifying the signals to it and when it starts to happen and i started to learn my body how how it handles itself on the way to fainting because there is a process although it's short there is a process and you can identify what's happening And so these days when I know how I feel when I'm in a higher frequency or higher dimension, and I compare that to the experience I had before fainting, I find many similarities. And I think that when before you faint, your frequency goes up so high that at one point you switch off, like the brain switches off like a computer. Are you viewing that as like a ladder up the Hawkins? scale maybe that's what it is maybe it could be i don't know but it just feel like physically like when you describe that experience um that that i think that has some it has some connection like

the the raising of the frequency to get you to a point if you can handle very high frequency without fainting that's that's my history like basically one of my body can handle i think in the past my body could not handle it and today is different one of the best modern examples of that in my humble opinion is wim hof right the breathing and the cold showers okay that would it's just superhuman uh-huh right right and then they inject him with like ebola and stuff and he does it right in front of the camera it's so epic to see how powerful and so much that we're being taught to miss out on of of our our essence and our our yeah um he's just one that's like a jedi master of it and i think breathing is certainly one way that i think people really

need to get into to raise their frequency because even if you just get into the pure physicality of hyper-oxidating your blood. Well, that detoxes it. That reduces oxidative stress. Okay. So what happens then? You're less sore. You lower inflammation. Okay. What happens then? All of your organs work better. Okay. What happens then? Then you're generally happier and more flexible. And it just, everything works collectively together. And it's a fascinating thing where you can come at it from whatever thing you want. It's still going to be productive and useful and my therapy today is doing this what we're doing now it's like talking to people and and finding kindred spirits and raising my vibration and frequency and i i just i love it

this is my therapy okay i'm gonna ask you some questions one more thing one more okay true or false bitcoin is a higher consciousness oh for sure it's such a privilege to be in it dude i'm like i try this on several people that i know several bitcoiners and they're all like looking at me like who are you what do you want but i started finding those people i can talk to them about it the those bitcoiners that i can talk to them about it because at one point when i was deep enough into the bitcoin rabbit hole i felt like it was out of this world and i felt like it's this gift that has been given and it's it's got its own consciousness and uh we are communicating with it and using it and it's it's there for us to

utilize um and yeah most people think i'm crazy when i say that no you're the inverse of that Okay. Well, look at, so all of nature is our harmonious meritocracy, right? Because everything has its merit along the life cycle from producer to apex predator. Without either end of it, everything gets dysfunction. Well, how do I transpose that onto Bitcoin? Well, proof of work. It's the same thing as that sequence, right? You need the kilowatt hours, the producer to get to the apex predator which is which i call it apex collateral basically it's the most pristine collateral asset on earth it can if i were to lay down the agenda for it it would be bye-bye central banks bye-bye governments and we're going to recapitalize that system with

bitcoin as the collateral of the system and much like nature the bitcoin network is reminding me of of that mycelium right that things are just there like the base layer is there and then everything that happens on top of it is whatever happens organically with free will that it will you know it keeps changing because new players come in others die they don't like the way it is they fork out that this is like in nature it's the same thing you know the trees die plants die there's new animals coming in there's like there's wars all the time this is if bitcoin reconstitutes the equity capital of the planet there won't be any wars because there's no wars but bankers wars like the same group we're identifying that did covet and all this

other crap it's the same group that's been doing this shit for hundreds if not thousands of years so once we augment or bifurcate and and we ascend essentially and you know exactly what i'm saying Yeah, I could dive in further to the new plane of existence. And I don't see how it gets disrupted, even if they EMP, even if they, I think, bring it all on now because it's going to continue to evolve. It's indestructible. And I think each opportunity or each vector of attack that they have right now in America, if you're watching, which I hope you're not. I'm watching everything. If you're watching any of me, mainstream media.

oh no i'm not watching that well but i'm seeing clips right they're they're like sound and i only see clips too because i don't even have tv in the classical sense but um it's the outrage on elon just exposing what we as the constituent taxpayers of of the united states have a legal right to they're like oh oh look unelected wait you're you know i mean it's just the most hip it's one of the most hypocritical things i've ever seen um which is a very low frequency emotion i i learned recently this is another um aside shame is the lowest frequency emotion i thought it was fear yeah more than fear i'm surprised shame yeah shame is horrible as soon as i i read that i was like oh

okay that does make sense it does make sense in a way it's just it drags you down so deep so low i can i can understand wow okay listen i'm gonna ask you some questions ready okay with gary cardone you said there should not be any fiat or any central banks we should all get rid of fiat yet today your profession and daily trade is around fiat markets with crypto instruments right so what's what's your wishful thinking and your vision for how it's going where it's going the monetary system wonderful question thank you for asking well in my hedge funds we already have the tech stack and the equations and we currently are running strategies with btc and eth denominated strategies so other assets on top of bitcoin and ethereum as denominators

so the possibilities are absolutely endless now you could do all of these um i have no judgment on this i don't personally invest or trade these things but all of these memes on solana through a phantom wallet right well there are pairs right and i really think the crypto space generals overlook privacy in general there should be a lot of things on top of privacy tokens and that should be revisited here especially in this transition that we're in but um yeah i we are prepared for that world already a fully on chain a fully you know defiat system try can you try to dumb it down, simplify this for my audience that doesn't come from finance or Bitcoin.

Alright, so you want me to get into fiat? How you see the fiat-less world working and how is your agency ready for it today? So we're ready for it from a technological standpoint, right? We've got Lightning Network nodes here we've we've got all of our own internal software we've got the hardware i mean i mean this right in front of me not to they're not paying me to do this ladies and gentlemen um they should be um you know we're just basically making sure that if tomorrow

there's no usd euro yen renminbi rupiah peso flip into these assets we can function and what we've been at we've actually been there for about five years already technologically how probable is that in your view i asked me to predict human behavior i cannot and before i ask you to predict i will tell you that the guy i told you about federico fagan the the italian physicist yeah he's saying i'm quoting from the interview we're trying to predict the future you cannot predict the future because it's based on free will no one wants to go there right now but that's the only way to go to be safe from this idea that machines and ai will best us and then you know he talks about it's beautiful but i know predicting the future is just a game

for me right it and some of it can be like our confidence interval on predictions with respect to price are different because price is adjacent or tangent to free will which basically is just an expression of two conditions which is psychology and liquidity right so that that's maybe a little bit more concise of a process than going when is this how is this going to happen um mechanically it's easier for me to describe that because the the current financial contract is such utter bullshit it's pathetic like so that's just like an easy push aside we globally default we we ban usury like it was in the past and just stop these practices that prey prey on people create conditions for wars and effectively disrupt or augment processes of abundance prosperity and

peace so if that the existing system is so shitty as you say and it is um how do you view what musk and trump are trying to do now with uh making things more efficient and reducing the national debt through efficiency that's so great but that's just the narrative all they're doing right now is exposing all this to get to get it in the consciousness right right so it's not really and then it's not in terms of finance and numbers it's they're never gonna win it's not possible in my view this is this is subjective um so tell me why what would this is this is my opinion this i don't have any inside knowledge or awareness of their their dealing so this is just my opinion But if I knew, and basically everybody in big business who's a billionaire, they know that we have to end the central banking system.

They know that we can't have these technocratic, unelected, bureaucratic, deep state, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever word salad you want to call that. The darkness, the evil, the parasites, you know, the people who are charging $1.7 trillion of credit card debt at 26% in the United States. That's not a market based rate like they know it's never going to be paid back. So if we are in agreement that we have to get out of this system, what's the pathway of of least amount of destruction, not least resistance, because power never wants to give up power willingly. so we have to disrupt and we've got to transition but essentially there's a lot of different ways but first you got to prime the public for wait a minute you're doing what with trillions and then okay you can't even keep track of that but then the irs comes after me for six hundred dollars like you know that has to enter the realm of consciousness before we go all right well Auditing the Fed. Wait, who owns the Fed? 13 families, six banks.

Right. So you think it's like an entry point, a pathway to helping people wake up to the different truths. Right. I'll use a woo people or hippie way of looking at it. Edward Cayce's path is very similar, but different and separate to Dolores Cannon's, right? those are just different views and ways of explaining and identifying what i think is very similar things so there's a great current example of this bank of england lbma it's all fraud right there's this is i'm referencing gold right a few years ago they basically stopped nickel trading because they were all blowing up on paper so all the hedge funds that were long nickel got busted lost all their money and they basically gave money to jp morgan through the

bank of england from the people who are long nickel contracts well now the whole world's demanding gold bullion be delivered and the shell game of more paper than actual physical which is going to occur in bitcoin on these etfs um is being shown in fact all etfs have this or almost all etfs have this problem it's a joke it's not a real asset but what why why that's relevant is that we're priming the pump of awareness and people like ron paul have actually been calling this thing out at the bank of england for 40 years so look at how long it's taken for these truths to come out now they're coming out really really really really fast all one after the other yeah is that a good question um yeah i think so uh i'm gonna keep going so don't worry there's

more where this came from um so you did i mean see it's in my question is this a transitory phase you said you said so without me asking that we're in a transitory phase i wonder whether you um define that that transitory phase similarly to how i view it in terms of you know how every 80 to 110 years more or less there's like this change of a world empire and the and a reserve currency for the world and we're kind of towards the end of that cycle now and it to me it doesn't look like the U.S. is going to give up that position of being the world's hegemony and holding the reserve currency and I think the transition is going to be from the fiat dollar to the digital dollar and it's going to take different shapes and forms with different monetary instruments

to implement it but i think i mean this is my prediction that the u.s will continue to be the world um the world leader for another century what do you think i i that's a ton to unpack right well who runs the current u.s system the monetary yeah which is it like fine trump and fed right or the families the fed right so why us well that's just their means correct so i agree on the surface if that construct stays in power that is what's going to happen if that construct does not stay in power that's not what's going to happen and then okay if that contract doesn't stay into power i can't predict that right because hopefully we can all agree on meritocracy and competitive free market forces and there won't just be one ring to rule them all right

because that's kind of what we want to do the same thing we're doing now um so again i can't outline it for for everyone but i can say having been a constant student of history we are at a amazing time to be alive amazing time right and we are very very grateful to have most of the apparatus and the solutions at right in front of us to make this as you know least destructive um when you're looking at four turnings from the past which are really like really destructive always genocides oh blah blah blah it doesn't matter like everybody has their i'm a victim thing that they can say throughout any time in history because every people's have had gen and there's a lot of genocides going on now right um so put that aside

and let's focus on getting rid of bad and going towards good and we've got more of the tools to do it than i think ever ever before in history the only question is whether the consciousness will follow to to do the right thing well that's not even up to us right right which like that's where it is in a way if it's a collective consciousness that we're uh talking about um but we're already going to ascend regardless of the rest of the people do oh sure so and that i know that might sound unfair but like you know come to the party ladies and gentlemen um but you have to you have to have that rebellion spirit inside of you and the and the desire to know truth and not be afraid of truth and if you don't there's not a lot of help we can give perfect and that leads me

perfectly to my next question so i think it was i think we're on the same page with covid was a scam climate is a scam the only danger to man really is is pollution of the body and the environment via food water chemtrails whatever they call them geoengineering poisonous pharma and not really co2 or all the propaganda that they're trying to shove it's not CO2 is not a pollutant carbon is not a pollutant CO2 is the gas of life it's ridiculous of course

and you also said in Naples we are at war and people are not waking up shit has already hit the fan there are no more vectors left so can you elaborate on how you see this war we're in

because the what's the word you use to describe the evil people or the parasites or the cabal or the deep state um what do you like to call them that gives them many names yeah they do have the power that want to be the powers that shouldn't be maybe yes all right so that group all right let's just run down the plethora all right fluoride right okay chemtrails geoengineering infinity metals infinity pathogens all right allopathic medicine oh we got rid of homeopathic medicine that's why you're all sick okay food there's literally not an angle they've not come at us since the late 18th century

all vectors to hurt our pineal gland to destroy our consciousness and make us literal and figurative slaves debt slaves specifically and yeah labor slaves too and there wasn't any ethnicity to it we are all currently debt slaves and all of our bloodlines have been at one time physical slaves all to the same group of entities or and blah blah blah doesn't really even matter and the good news is they're really weak people only weak weakness can be evil strength can't be evil yeah i'm with you so inside that war we're in where we are being attacked from all different directions you are talking about uh raising consciousness is one of the things that we can do in order to elevate ourselves and like not play the game that is

being played right now so i want to if if you allow me i want to show you a little clip of what you said there in those i love those fired up now that's not fair this is in florida amongst my people so like oh come on yeah i got no shame i got no shame but um hold on my audience gonna i do remember not what i said but that i was spicy you were great you were on fire dude can you see my screen i can okay and i think all of us here should share personal views of what it means to to try to do that right like some of it is spiritual and in prayer meditation reflection a lot of it is health and getting metals and toxicity and pathogens out of your body using all of your seven senses you have more than five and and then understanding

we're actually facing going through ego death and the trauma when you realize what you're facing and then be a kinder gentler more harmonious with nature being to bring up your community and being kinder and gentler does not mean you're weak i love it and um i need to like somehow get a copy of that that was a really i don't do that i mean i'll go search it out because i can help you make a clip out of that dude okay well it's not that difficult i'll do that i don't that's not my my spiel as they say but um it was about as good as i can say anything for just a redneck from florida um that was lovely yeah thank you yeah hold on i'm gonna finish like what i wanted to ask you about it so

do you have any water resource do you have your stored food do you have your own energy source because you said i think it was with gary bitcoin water and women that's what you need to well inverse water well and that's just you know it's my little rambunctious way of honoring my mother and my wife right and honoring life and that you there's not you can't have one without the other and and male species cannot produce life only the female species can and that and that water is integral to all of life it's an expression of life and then bitcoin can be i think the instrument of freedom and peace and prosperity and so to me having invested in everything done well had mess ups i see what the most valuable things on earth are in my view and

that's those three and you know it's not even arguable you can't have life without it and then we might not be able to have freedom without bitcoin is my point with that yeah you know and and this is good it's good that you're saying that because let's talk about um the resistance i get about bitcoin from a lot of my audience who is who has been like me red pill during covid but then not orange peeled and they're so suspicious what's that they kind of go together that's what i thought right to me it's very natural but apparently not to everyone most people they they become skeptical if they don't do the spiritual work i think or the the inner mental work to um to not go down the black pill path that they will be extra suspicious

and skeptical about things that's one and two they may still be lazy because they haven't learned the lesson from covid they still be lazy enough not to go and do their own research and so they'll and bitcoin forces you to learn and if you don't do the work you will not know and that's a that's a life lesson it's not about bitcoin it's about life like you have that lesson of trust of don't trust verify that's a life lesson and bitcoin gives you the opportunity to learn it and but they get stuck there and they are being fed from i mean i'm talking about that group in my audience that is being fed from all the fud about bitcoin and the telegram clips and the you know and the gold bugs saying the bitcoin is bad and dangerous and all that and normally i know how to answer

most of their suspicions but when it comes to um you know bitcoin sets you free they go okay but it has been hijacked right there's this stupid fud now about being bitcoin being hijacked by the um by the institutions and so i and i am i am very i mean i do a lot of research i do a lot of reading i do a lot of investigations and i don't really see a risk in that at the same time i'm staying open to things i don't know for example i don't know much about market liquidity and i don't know much about price manipulations i do see how the price can be manipulated um in gold and in paper gold but i can i can see that something similar could happen with the bitcoin etfs and when i put that together with my experience in marketing knowing that one of the most important or most

efficient tools to control people is through their perception and what they believe and propaganda then if enough people are going to be convinced that bitcoin is um bitcoin can be controlled because they are controlling the price and the price is dictating a lot of the psychology behind bitcoin people may not join or may not embrace it or may continue to be suspicious of it because of the fud that is out there so i'm interested in your view you understand liquidation you understand you know pricing so you touched on this a little bit earlier um let me first say the price of in dollars or euro yen it doesn't doesn't matter stopping i'm gonna try not to be mean um so i'll stop what i was about to say um all right let's let's use gold and i think you know my primer for

bitcoin was being a gold bug why because gold's been money forever okay well mr and mrs gold bug how's that work out the last 25 years right and the fact that gold's still you know a tangible asset they still papered over it and suppressed it oh wait and then in 1933 they stole it all from the rich people in america by the way there was a bank holiday that bankrupted the majority of the wealth in 1933 they just shut down banks just like they're about to do now um or they started doing in march of 2023 so you know i i'm with the always be skeptic null hypothesis is the only scientific method but at the same time game theory out worst case scenarios of course blackrock didn't enter for good reasons duh i mean like but but what is what is the use

case for bitcoin it did not change the the necessary hertz which is now i think one third hydro in terms of the inputted electricity which is great beautiful um better than wind and solar because those are horrific for the environment um you know it it's it's going to fight its own battle and your choice to stay away from it because of fear uncertainty and doubt is yours to make but at the same time you might want to look why that's occurring wait a minute there's only 21 million there's 19.578 by today i think give or million being mine plus or minus four to six million lost right so all these big institutions big investors wall street whatever not all of them are part of the powers that should not be and they go oh shit if this is going to get recapitalized

we need to take from the weak and make them afraid so i could be wrong with that assessment but that's certainly part of the potentiality that's occurring now and then yeah could it have come from darpa game theory that out so did the internet but the internet's now how we're doing this exactly so you could it's good and important to weigh all evidences have all arguments first with yourself then with others and then what's going to happen in the future you cannot do a mf-ing thing about so it's always best efforts do what you can live to fight another day yep that's it so that and then oh by the way do you have a better option right no okay am i do i still have gold sure do i care what the price is no but is it limited in how much i can carry around to

protect my family and debank with it yeah well it's not limited with bitcoin so yeah i always get to that conclusion as well that in the end of the day all the actual concerns are related in some way or another to price and to dollar price which is weakness and yeah and so what i'm not in bitcoin for the price i'm there because there is an alternative uh monetary system that i can hedge my energy in and that's bitcoin and it's for my freedom it's for my it's for my sovereignty it's not i mean if i'm gonna be rich great bring it on but that's not why i'm there i'm there because what's that what is rich what is rich rich in terms of money in my pocket right well what is money it's the tool to be able to fulfill my needs the the money you think you have

what form is it in currently it's mostly in bitcoin well good because that is a really difficult thing to confiscate or steal from you right well and some gold as well by the way right yeah and one increment of gold nine increments of bitcoin sounds good silver is really really cheap from a relative value perspective i'm not going to get in the way of anybody acquiring and accumulating tangible assets yeah buy buy properties with spring water on them oh great you know i mean all those things are way more valuable way more important but i think what you're really articulating is the narrative of i'm going to have it now but then i'm going to get rid of it later so that i can do this with it right and that that's the trap of everything

about investing to begin with oh i'm gonna learn how to trade options so i can buy a yacht oh i'm gonna learn how you know good luck because you're competing against people like me and people way smarter than me and you're gonna you're gonna lose all your money right so there's definitely that element and i think where where it's occurring now is because the libertarian anarchist base that sort of adopted this and aggressively in 2010 to 2013 vintage is largely lost and misrepresented or just ignored at this point for those pushing essentially just for a number goes up narrative which is irrelevant to the quality of the asset itself or the pristiness of bitcoin is collateral. And so to me, I get that people are stressed, they want prosperity, and I don't

fault them for having that ambition or that desire. And I'm not picking on that. But if you remove yourself out of that equation, you'll have a lot more peace. I'm with you. Okay, thank you for that um i want to ask by the way was it yeah well because i have a unique view as both kind of a og for whatever that means i'd love to be a 90s like rapper og that's way more cooler than crypto og um and i miss i desperately miss 90s style or 80s style hip-hop and rap i miss all the musical genres that this hours that have not should not be of destroyed anyhow you asked that in a way that pulled out what my internal interpretation and processing of that is, and hopefully that's helpful to people. Yes, I think it is. And I think more and

more people need to get away from the price, the dollar price. It's such a distraction. You know what's hilarious? The sentiment's awful now. It's at 96,000. What do you want it to do? like what is the matter with you people i know you realize the con i was debanked march of 23 and the with the democrats or or as i call them the commie crats in the united states had a anti-crypto army not but 18 months ago right not that that wouldn't have even changed until trump was elected and you people are not satisfied with the fact of state reserve currencies bahar bahrain buvan or i'm saying beautiful i mean they really have dialed in the exact modality that i mean i would even move there if they had a coastline for me to surf on

um you know give me a break how can you expect something in 14 plus in a third years to achieve what it's achieved like how that's like saying hey my son just won the little league world series and having the the front runner advantage for individuals never before in any cycle has that happened thank you exactly but like take the win that's literally the same thing as saying my son pitched a no hitter for the little league world series but you know what he threw like five balls i mean come on it's a thousand million trillion satoshi's worth of epic and a few things and then oh by the way okay black rock bad esgs davos blah blah cool two things as a human one people can ask for forgiveness forgiveness is divinity no matter

what your religious teacher says forgiveness is divine and not everybody's bad is always going to be bad right people can see the light so that's that you know process of potential good number one and number two even if you assume the motive is evil they obviously recognize the value of it so all right appraise it for what it is fair game yeah and you can't you the network i'm not gonna say it's impossible but it is very difficult and very improbable to be able to take over the network now right and then because we have a great example just do it again with something else so all of that analytics that you can put on it can arrive at a at it can really only arrive at a positive appraisal and and that's you know that that level of conviction that you have had

made you open your business the way you did and bet on it so widely right and it really hasn't paid off no no yeah think of what we what it's paid off in and what i mean by that is i we ran i ran more money 20 years ago than we do in the crypto space right so i get it i get what you mean when you compare fiat to and then it's still like for for projects for asset managers it's it's still arm tooth and leg just to give a value proposition of the space it's like you're selling the political narrative of it you're selling the freedom narrative of it you're selling the upside asymmetry in fiat terms of it and then okay then you've got to learn everything about every asset that's in the space then you have to have strategies and systematic and quantitative

algorithms that then trade it so it's risk managed but gives you a lot of the upside and has a good balance between two okay that's infinity jobs to try and deliver something to someone that's effectively charity so i'm just saying it hasn't it's been a um amazing and super awesome challenge but it's not just been proof success because the traditional measurement of that has really largely not been achieved by the space which can only be be full adoption um and then we've got ptsc i've seen so many of my friends with our similar good intentions um go out of business right because of they had money on ftx or the clients got scared pulled out all the money it's not been a a a easy pathway for asset managers in the space how many more or less

are there in the that space that are doing a few hundred that was crypto native yes now there's in my view less than 50 really so few and now there's more of them in the u.s by the way it was a overweight to europe initially uh-huh then then southeast asia and between basically 18s bear market and 2020 and 20 shoes bear market those two seem to have gotten the most whipsawed or destroyed um and and u.s has kind of just been like on a slight up into the right path because of venture private equity because you're not going to take you're never gonna be able to take the capitalism out of the united states so the enamored being enamored by the tech and then risk taking like there's always going to be investors that support that so

i think now you're starting to see a little bit of unlock in the u.s but yeah i mean it's just been a lot of pain here yeah and i but like i've said before and you've heard me saying here i freaking love it like because material wealth is an illusion at best yeah and i and i kind of already have that too so depending on what your magnitude is like when you have a skill set like me you really don't ever get afraid because you can just produce it yeah i know exactly what you mean that's why i'm i'm not i don't have any fear about that people tell me so what like i'm a journalist now i hardly make any money you know i make a little bit a little bit of money but it doesn't matter because i know i have the skills the moment i want to you know put the switch you

go do it you can't i can do it and and i've got enough say it's like this is this is just a tool this is not what is supposed to to pivot my life and to to decide for me which direction my life's going to take this is just a tool and uh and i think i've mastered how to generate it so no big deal i i totally identify with what you said you mentioned that you were debanked last year or 23 yeah yeah where they shut off your bank accounts why because we're in crypto yeah and then signature and silvergate which is where we have operating accounts and investment accounts the democrats just redeeming what damage did you suffer um it was a net loss of around 11 12 percent oh fuck yeah so you had your accounts in those banks in one of those

fucking hell and they just turn them off and then the narrative they gave the public was oh they were leveraging the bullshit even barney frank came out well i'm not a huge fan of but came out said um we were solvent and they shut him up immediately and this is why silicon valley bank gets full bailout but then other banks going bankrupt at our it's it's just we have to focus a hundred percent of our energy on eliminating central banks all of this accounting kerfufflesness it's it's all going to go away if you stop central banking no wars no poison you know fiat food like for our terminology it just all will stop ahead of the snake huh it is and the history goes all the way back to babylon and it's involved in every single

destructive empire in all of mankind's history i'm gonna have caitlin long on my show too i have to speak to her she's a freedom fighter there's been a lot and the good news is that we've seen we have a lot of examples to base our modality on yes my favorite that my favorite's always the spartans and then next would be the the founders of america but what they faced and their culture it's not for everybody but i just see that as it's so far the other direction of where we're at now that it's so disciplined it's so alpha that we could learn a lot from revisiting some of their practices they used you know lead as a as a lead coins like that it's a totally different way of living but i think their courage and bravery is no one's ever met

matt match that in my opinion so i don't know if you've understood what i said before you know caitlin long of course i know oh so i want to have her on my podcast and i think she's one of those spartans she's got those qualities of fighting back the central banking they've been messing with her the entire time and she's got a bank in front of them like she's unreal i love her qualities it takes people don't understand and thank you for recognizing the courage it takes to do that oh far out you have to be ready to go because that's how they they've dispensed of people plenty of times in history and are doing it now and so you have to be okay with that yeah yeah and as you said before if you are doing the work then you know that when it's your time to go

it's a time to go and you're committed to the game it's literally and i sense it more in the last two weeks three weeks than i ever have like it's now or never right now it's it's now or never it's it's money time huh well it's just it's game time right it's game time yeah non-humans let is let's all unite let's get rid of what we all can agree is the only hindrance to peace prosperity and abundance because they stand in the face of that and then okay we eliminate that one evil let's see what happens after that all right give it six months or a year see where we're at and we can tackle another vector that we all agree is disrupting us and then i really you know all of the so-called religious divisions are from the central banks too it's all it's just

complete construct i really hope that that's going to change this year um it's not going to change this year not this year huh i would love to be wrong but i think the best way if we did like a grassroots thing where you had the best and brightest from technology finance and then you had like you know imam rabbi and like pope go hey we are the abrahamic religions we stand against you you and i you know and we have like an army you know some kind of like beautiful scene like that to disrupt these powers that cannot be when recognize wait hey guys we're all supposed to be enemies but i'm pretty sure what i look they're all like how do they convince us to be enemies you know that that's really the question i'm asking right um so something that's that disruptive

to yeah to unite everyone and make it because you can't part of the problem with the higher consciousness is that the normies the npcs the blah blah blah it's not as accessible as it is to you and i right and that breaks my heart because you want you don't want people being angry like if they're scared in the idf or scared that they're um a palestinian who's victim of my everybody's a victim of terrorists like come on guys let's be on the side of peace and help one another not be a because fear is so destructive having women and children be afraid is not it it enrages me that men allow that to occur on a day-to-day basis. But to me,

the pathway to uniting and enlightening is such an easy one if we all can have the dialogue. And I know that's wishful thinking, but we're not that far off in my opinion. Yeah, I hope so. And I, with you, I'm seeing around me so much, like i'm seeing how far we are from it and at the same same time there are some like sparks of hope and light here and there where people are starting to understand stuff

but it's not on a massive scale so maybe maybe such a cataclysmic event is needed to yes drive a change at least i and i would hope that that's not the case but historically like okay how are you going to convince people that the existing system is a parasite right well they're going to have to realize what we already know is law you are an unsecured creditor to your bank account and they already have the legal remedies in place to do what's called a great taking uh mr webb thank you um and just confiscate it it can be a bailout or a bail-in but poof from usually between a friday and a monday your money's gone it's already not there you know why go try and withdraw five thousand usd what happens oh they file suspicious activity report on you trying to use your own

money so come on that that i i would almost like if it's a betting game i'm betting the you know 101 odds that that is one of the main triggers for people and as such it's not wise to leave lots of liquidity in those banking institutions to be confiscated that's my humble advice i'm only going to give it once to everybody um i've said it a few times here to date because i could sense that this is on the horizon yep um i'm not certain of the how elon or trump or anybody who's very conscious of this scott bassett how they can get in the way of it because both in europe and in asia and the united states there's a legal ability to do it and then the central banks have the technological ability to do it what they did to russia was a great example

they stole 270 billion from the russian taxpayers fine if you want to harm putin or critique him but that's not the taxpayers fault they're not wanting to go to war with anyone right so how do how do we technologically get in the way of that my and my wife's way of doing is just getting it out of the system exactly same for me absolutely and like i know whatever i leave there okay might see it and it's gone the next day fine exactly just see whatever right off you know yeah we're gonna have to reconstruct everything anyways five six two whatever the duration is so you know if that's if i have to sacrifice a few hundred k so that everybody can wake up fine i'm happy to do it and then maybe the people not willing to do that

right so if you're in my audience and you're listening and you have been listening now for one hour and 45 minutes and i salute you then so it means you're with us right you're listening to that to that conversation and if you are understanding or starting to understand that your what's called money is not safe in a what's called bank because it's not yours and because it's not there it's not even there right so if you if you're with us so far and and you get that you hear that advice right and you are still being met with that resistance of but what do i do when to take it out and the first thing you think of is gold great go buy gold physical gold no problem but then if you're smart enough and you're aroused enough to go check bitcoin then go

check bitcoin and get over your own fear of doing this but you do have to put in the work okay and then whatever you choose as long as you have the minority of your assets in fiat and the rest in other commodities or assets like Bitcoin, then you're probably going to be better off if a scenario like the one we are describing is going to happen. And I think it's quite probable that it's going to happen in light of since I'm doing my work as a journalist looking at all the different publications that are coming out

from places like the World Economic Forum and the Bank of International Settlements, the IMF, etc. They are prepping the ground for such an event. They are coming up with all these crazy excuses for why such thing would happen. One of those scenarios would be a cyber attack that would cause the financial system to collapse. Yes, it may also be a climate change event like a catastrophic weather event that would cause the financial system to go down. they actually have some videos that they have produced about that so they are prepping they are definitely doing the if i'm reading the signals they are signaling that such a scenario

could happen so if you're in the in the business of risk assessment and hedging yourself and taking care of your family and yourself then you may want to listen to those signals and to those advices and you know it's your choice you're exactly correct i've i've i went through your work on cbdc's is magnificent by the way thank you for having the courage to expose it and to dive into the tech to make people understand it because part of what they're going to flip people into as they do a bail-in is let's say you have 100 um pay usd in bank of america all right the bail-in occurs they recapitalize and now you have 30k of of what's my favorite way empire credits like like from star wars that expire in 60 days 90 oh you can't buy red meat oh you ma'am or sir you can't

have testosterone you can't have red meat you can't here's your fluoride here's your fiat food here's your eats the bugs right like people like this is on deck as you mentioned correctly the pre-programming is there the hegelian dialectic is there and the almost all i see in the way of this is in part the united states in part people like uh victor orban um and into some degrees xi jinping and putin and some degrees even iran because their banking system separate from this um some degrees india um but like the whole continent of africa is in their control now um almost all of europe is in their control now most of south america is in their control i think the united states just took over panama good mexico is now run by them um so it's the probability

that they at least try this because of all of what i just articulated this extraordinary i'd love to be wrong but in all of your cbd presentations that i watched i mean you you have it that's where they're gonna why would they build all that right if they're not gonna roll it out and oh by the way folks this stuff all went fully capable in july of 23 they can flip the switch why july 23 that's when the wholesale channels were tested and and went into production for all of the cbdc infrastructure okay with embridge with fed now with fed now yeah and Yeah, and then the Bank of International Sonomas has tested this on IMF. Yes, yes, okay, okay, got it, yes.

And then opening up the – yeah, I mean – and I don't want to take away from the questions, but this – No, no, no, this is perfect. It's tying in with everything we were saying because this is – the new presentation that I made, and I presented it last month in El Salvador, is called The New Monetary Order in a Changing World. And that's where I'm showing all the different financial instruments that the powers that shouldn't be are going to try and use in the coming years in order to move or transition into a new monetary system that is digital and global. And because it's such a chaotic time and such a chaotic process, then we're kind of in the phase of a smorgasbord, like a buffet of instruments that they can play around and try. One of them is CBDC, retail CBDC. One of them is ETFs. Basically, let's tokenize any and every asset and put it on a blockchain, on a permissioned blockchain. of course and and let's use kyc bitcoin as well in that experiment so that there are going to be many many different types of tools that they are going to try and implement on a nation-state level

in the next few years because in the end of the day their channel to communicate with each other is the wholesale cbdc or other means of you know kind of uh they call like the the dlt right distributed ledger technology that the eu is experimenting with 48 different nations on on one dlt and uh and wholesale cbdc is experimented between different countries and i know they're proving the premise of the technology right oh yeah dude they're completely like reinventing the wheel trying to validate the blockchain itself they're rebuilding bitcoin as if bitcoin didn't exist it's so hilarious to watch like and i said yesterday when i talked to paul paul your colleague from bite federal that was with you in florida i i spoke to him yesterday

to paul he's a lovely human he's amazing and and i was telling him that and i told him like i don't get paid for all that stuff that i do but whenever i do what i do and i go to watch all these videos of the central bankers or i read their documents i feel so dirty afterwards i need a shower and i need to get fucking paid so much more than i did in fiat world because it's such a hard job that i have selected but it's so important that someone does that and actually goes through what they're doing because then i can just like you i cannot predict the future but what i can do is i can show you what they're doing now what they are planning and what they are trying to build and if their plans are successful then that's what we're going to get and if if they fail which i

hope or at least in some of what they do um then then great you know we have bitcoin but it's just fascinating to see like the time we're in i think until the end of this decade like until 2030 we're going to be at a time where different countries are experimenting with different technologies but everyone is trying to go digital and go global and um and we're going to be there with our bitcoin flag which is going to be quite strange for many people because they're going to go oh it's controlled as well it's the same thing it's another digital currency and we're going to go no but no but it's different i i respect our job is going to get even more complicated i think in the next few years as the mainstream adoption happens it it's certainly going to be exciting

oh yeah so it yeah i'll stop so you can ask more questions okay my last question um yeah it's my last question but then i have to say something else but i heard you say in florida as well that trump has controlled opposition can you say more about that i was purposely throwing that out there why that was like because the crowd had this vibe did you want to shock them yeah yeah and and so that was coming from a place of okay these you know we're taking our time out john burnett paul to really kind of go here's how we've done prepping right as any anybody and i run hedge fund of course like hedging and prepping same thing um so i and they were just kind of glazing over and like yeah you with this empty and then that's on

the i don't know if it's on the video but i leaned forward and started getting like upset with them basically um and i threw out that to just trigger some game theory on on an analysis of that and and i've done that too like you can't you can't make any assumptions and then some of the people that he surrounded himself with speak to that possibility maybe not probability um and i just wanted to kind of shock them into participation because i think we we run the risk of of like the united states freedom movement and truth movement kind of backing off offense and go oh trump's in elon's in vivick's in they're gonna oh bobby kennedy he's in i don't need to worry about anything right and give the globalists the powers that cannot be or what you know more uh runway

and no we are on offense until agenda 2030 that date that and cliff high actually gets into this by the way people 27 and 2030 and then june july are really important this year by the way and oh yeah you know cliff i is yeah yeah yeah so his work on the sort of the natural language processing the o physics is so enlightening i don't really have the mental bandwidth to like really capture where he's at but it's a great great sub stack for those people to dive into to catch up quickly with what he's doing um because it all plays in and so i i don't want anybody to feel comfortable give up and give any leeway we we have this trajectory of awakening we have this rise in consciousness we have this seeking of truth and we need to be ready

to rock and keep pushing and not take for granted right so that's why i did that and and and if i can just pull on that thread a bit more that connects to me to the need of people to be saved and that notion of being saved and having a savior and looking at someone as their savior they may not even call him or them that way but essentially that's what they're looking for and whenever i identify that i go fucking stop it's lazy inside it's fucking lazy yes it's lazy and it's you're not doing the work look inside it's within you stop all that nonsense you couldn't see in that in that setting that triggered the mf out of those people and it exactly what because people look there and i i think i chastised people being overweight i was mean to some degree

but it was a you know people paid to be there it was a close circle of floridians our state we're our own mother effing country we could kick everyone ass on the earth including china everybody should wash their back like you know so that was like guys you're just this isn't a time to celebrate like let's go to work let's push the envelope stay on offense and make sure you're bringing up everybody like you know big chain link of good humans and and that was one of the ways that i triggered them and i don't know how long the video went on because i 40 minutes i kind of after at least afterwards or maybe on stage because those things are streams of consciousness similar to this so i don't recall like if ben bitcoin ben's representatives came

up saying oh that was smart chris you were like driving them driving them to think and challenge it and right when i saw that it was just being glazed over i think you could see there's a pivotal moment where i i get like aggressive and that was part of my way of doing it not saying it was the best or smartest way of doing it but that was the purpose behind it i get it so you don't really think that he's a controller position um not today i do not but he could be he could be today too, right? But I have to judge actions, right? And the actions thus far have blown me away. First off, he's a good man. I can measure that very simply by his wife, his grandkids, his kids. He's a good man. I'm sure he makes mistakes, but men are stupid. We all make

mistakes, right? Fine. We're like one standard deviation different from one another, right? Women are much better and more dynamic and more valuable than men. So I already know he's a good man but um and i know he's not into this transhumanist agenda of destroying the family destroying faith and spirituality and destroying economies he's not down with that but we have to as but musk is he's both in my view yes he's both that i agree with that and he's going to thread that needle all the way until he's going to have to actually put aside mm-hmm and it's gonna be super interesting to watch but but remember he can ask for forgiveness and then everybody can change right he's having too much fun disrupting the darkness

and that so even mark zuckerberg who i couldn't trust as far as i could throw him you can feel in his tonality oh dude i can't i can't i'm sorry well look i i'm i'm gonna i'm gonna give a benefit of the doubt to all scenarios right i'm not you're much better than me much higher soul than me i've learned not to be rigid right and i'm not calling you rigid i'm just saying look and then all right let's let's appraise it as kind of a bro because he's it could be all fake but just run run with me look you're if you're raping children and you're drinking adrenochrome and you're conjuring money and you're seeing more bombs than world war ii drop being dropped on 22 miles of land in the middle east and you're you're witnessing terrorism

occur when it's financed by all the three-letter agencies and okay there's a point where you're like i did this to make a billion i'm worth 100 billion mother f that i'm not going along with this they want to kill everyone they want to destroy it so you have to at least in your analysis of game theory in the spectrum of potential outcomes you have to give some benefit of the doubt to people who don't want to do that right not everybody is as dark as the powers that should not be right and there's super dark whether it's luciferian freemason blah secret society builder blah blah blah it doesn't even matter it's all the same apparatus right yeah you have to be really evil to do the kind of things they're doing they're obviously not religious or spiritual

or have any faith in anything other than maybe lucifer or whatever construct you want to believe is that and that could also be an extraterrestrial an anarchy and definitely blah blah blah blah blah right or draconian or reptilian you know if you want to go down the real woo-woo path so all i am is open to first forgiving what they've done in the past welcoming them into the higher consciousness and dude Elon is there they're brilliant Mark's brilliant so I I don't like like bro I'm not

and you might get this dude and you know we've been in the same room before I ain't putting no chip in here and then all of us are using this to combat what you're doing with Starlink and you know we are so you know but

it's just I can't he has to pick for himself yeah yeah it's uh musk is a very um interesting character and watching his actions is very very interesting well he knows the frequency of beaming that stuff from there is so horrible for our bodies and our like he knows that and joe rogan knows that he knows that like they they all they need to be a little more transparent and go but but at the same realm he can flip the frequencies to positive also so nothing's to me like fully ever won or lost right until the

battle's over well to in reality in my opinion to see ron paul get recommended to audit the fed unbelievable i'm almost like in bitcoin's hundred grand countries like i can go rest guys like this is this is good enough for me like i can go on a holiday like honestly take the wins but but then because this is brought forward we've won a battle but now the war started and we have to people have to look at what they're seeing people freaking out and saying all these lies you're all over the planet right and like i've witnessed israelis protest against netanyahu i know the illegality it's not my place to say as a citizen what i would recommend doing but hey man there's a lot of tyranny and bad people all over the place and they're strong-arming all kinds of stuff none of

it or most of it at least not for good and all constituent peoples have the right to their own representation that they collectively want to have period and if you don't like where you're at migrate somewhere else right too often bad everybody needs sovereignty all nations need borders all cultures are worthy of protection in my humble opinion all can add value and there's different skill sets so i in order to have the most robust economy and healthiest competition we have to get whatever region or cultural or ethnic skill sets push production of whatever to offer the world food technology manufactured goods textiles like great awesome if we all had what you know look at look at all the futuristic uh what's the word i'm missing

end of the world stuff oh dystopian right they're wearing gray all gray and monochrome and that's not artistic that's not high consciousness this is sad is that what everybody wants you want to look like what the eu looks like when they go meet or how our congress does it's terrifying it's not fun okay you know that because of you oh god i'm not saying thanks to you i'm saying because of you i've been listening i almost finished i think i did 65 of the book in like a couple of days the road to serfdom oh god yeah mr hayek thank you mr hayek yeah so because of you no i had some having required reading but it's one of those heavy books that you really are learning about history and also about human activity and production and economy

And what you were just mentioning now, like, how can we make our economy as efficient as possible? And so that book is a really great way in to that conversation to start thinking about that. So thank you for the recommendation there. It was on your conversation with Breedlove, I think, that you recommended it. So on that note, do you have other good books or podcasts that you could recommend my audience to go follow or read if they want to take their first steps into economics or Bitcoin? The Austrians you have to read before getting into maybe the Bitcoin standard, which is what I read first. And I do think Roger Ver's critiques are legit from his point of view on Bitcoin being captured, but only in sort of passing. But I think Murray Rothbard… What do you mean only in passing? Well, it's just conjecture until it is. Like, okay, yes, your appraisal is correct, but there's no real finality of this.

We're not even close to that yet. Okay. All right. I understand. because so yeah good thank you go right and then and people are not forecasting or even really analyzing the adaptability and evolutionary process of of all of us right so you're just looking at in my critique of his view is that he's looking at it through one prism right and that one prism is not going to guarantee a specific outcome correlated to that prism it may

but there's there's just no finality or definitive uh nature to that and and that's this is what i've learned as a quant and as a human and speaking absolutes yep this is something i try to avoid i'm guilty of it sometimes um but i think read the austrians so hayek and mrs and rothbard and rothbard okay great wonderful yeah you really need to read about andrew jackson's fight against the bankers it'll inspire i don't think he's fighting against because in america the founding of america was really the most specific and prominent example of fighting the same evil we're fighting now and they chased those men and women that formed the country down many times and there was a few versions of the central bank before getting to the federal reserve in 1913 and really

even what we know oh the the empire of england was colonial and da da da da but it wasn't the taxpayer base of there that was the same thing we're talking about now smith buddler's book no worse but bankers wars all of that is is coalescing around this ability to conjure money great yeah what about uh favorite podcasts if um so i just was turned on to yours which is super good um and i noticed you're the voice is a decade in the making ish no mine yeah oh super new it's like a less than two years there are 65 episodes so far well to my i guess infantile awareness of the interweb uh because i'm i'm just not a very big consumer of the vector like where i got it was just all right you communicated with me then i looked you up and i found all the stuff but

I make a lot of content, but not everything goes on that. So I do write a lot. There's a social group. Yeah. Yeah, okay. And blog and everything. And a lot of social media. But the podcast is something I want to do more and more of.

But I've only done 65 so far. Because I don't have infinity time. I mean, I love, Breedlove is a good buddy of mine. Like, we're brothers. So I love his stuff. And that's why you don't see me on there all the time because we're never going to have the audience think that there's any collusion or anything other than the organic nature of when we need to talk about something, he brings me on. His interview of Jack Cruz was – or Dr. Cruz was epic. That dude is so awesome.

I really like Joe. I really love Tucker. I think they're great. I honestly really loved Howard Stern as an interviewer. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Until he got COVID crazy. I'll forgive him for that. He, I loved it. I purchased all of, you know, XM and Sirius because of Howard, you know, he would have bands on and he was avant

garde. He was rebellious. So, uh, I really miss him, so to speak. I miss Rush Limbaugh too, in the same vein. Um, but currently I'm, I'm just not as super informed because I don't have a ton of time to consume we're 24 7 managing client assets yeah i understand and what about spirituality a book or something i think you have to start with diary of a yogi okay i think i think that's like i think that's maybe one of the better ways um oh and i forgot billy carson by the way he he is awakening the bejesus out of people fast he's so awesome um and i don't really get a chance to see all he's doing i just know what he's up to and how well versed he is in history and he's i think he's got like four or five phds um but those are great sources and then we talked about gaia

but i think on the the woo woo stuff daio yogi you have to start there because that's in my view one of the genesis's of the awakening of spirituality love it beautiful yeah you're gonna enter it's so awesome chris a message of hope for my audience before we close off yes so like like i said in the video should be gentle be kind but be a warrior know you're powerful know that you're free and you have free will and don't let for men anybody your wife telling you what to do and for everyone else just rebel against tyranny because as our as the american forefathers said rebellion tyranny is obedience to god and that's that's something i'm saying to give people power you're not weak you're not alone all this construct we are battling spiritually metaphysically right

now i believe we're going to win it's going to take time it's going to get worse before it gets better that's part of the process and just take it all in and fight hard every day but do it in a way that's kinder and gentler to people and then remember forgiveness is divine forgiveness is divine i love it this is amazing an amazing message thank you so much for that thank you for having me i want to give you a little sentence that i took from tears for fears of love one of my favorite uh band and favorite songs and from seeds of love it's uh time to eat all your words swallow your pride open your eyes right so yeah maybe i'll play this song in the end of this episode this was epic i am so glad i invited you to come on well hopefully i i will be worthy of

another because i i have of course you will be i think we have so much to talk about and i have many questions because we're all kind of formulating our own theses and practices based on you know going down i have like a bowling ball or a bowling lane analogy where you got to put up the bumper so you're like bumping as you're learning down the pathway um and it's just really neat to be invited in your network thank you for your time i'm honored to be here and like now we're dialed in on our frequency and let's bring it up that's it it's done i'm actually going to be in florida and in may so i'd love to meet up awesome yeah wonderful welcome here in our office in our home and well we're offline i'll definitely take the invite thank you so much chris it was a

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