You're The Voice | by Efrat Fenigson - Exposing WEF Agenda: Digital IDs, CBDCs, EU Chat Control - Efrat on BTC Archive | Ep. 148

Episode Date: July 14, 2026

I joined Archie’s podcast to discuss the growing centralization and surveillance trends, and to share my sovereignty framework.“Is sovereignty still possible in an increasingly digital world?Efrat Fenigson explores growing tensions between individual freedom and centralised control with digital IDs, surveillance systems, and CBDCs.Governments and institutions are expanding their influence across money, communication, and personal data. Sovereignty can no longer be viewed as just a financial issue. It must be built across every layer of life. Physical, digital, and spiritual.⚠️ The battle for freedom may not be fought through politics alone, but through the public resisting the system itself.”– CHAPTERS – 00:00 - Intro01:57 - What Has Efrat Been Observing?13:13 - Origins of The World Agenda18:35 - What Is The Overton Window?24:58 - The State’s Social Attack Vectors30:56 - Centralised Digital Wallets Are Coming34:26 - How Do We Stop Centralisation?39:20 - Finding Your Purpose In Life– LINKS –This episode on Archie’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5buPPFErP_I Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat’s Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigsonWatch on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat’s work: ⁠https://bit.ly/zap_efrat– SPONSORS –→ Download the free report on second citizenships & setting up a plan B in another country with Expat Money: https://expatmoney.com/efrat→ Access liquidity without selling your Bitcoin with Ledn, get 0.25% off your first loan: https://ledn.io/Efrat    → Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn→ Have you tried mining bitcoin? Stack sats directly to your wallet while saving on taxes with Abundant Mines: https://AbundantMines.com/Efrat - Claim your free month of hosting via this link

Efrat Feniksen. Hey Archie. Welcome back. Thanks for having me again. It's my pleasure. You're my favorite troublemaker as I introduce you at InRiga as my favorite troublemaker. Nothing's changed. If anything, I've grown fonder and as I've become more familiar with you. Thank you. I'm not that bad, right? You're that good. Yeah, you're that good. Definitely. We need more voices like you, independent voices who are courageous enough to say what's on your mind and you know to the audience out there you don't have to agree with everything efrat says or believes i probably don't but it's really important that um on a lot of these topics that we actually air different points of view so that we're exposed to them and we're inoculated against

any kind of biases that might think uh creep into our own thinking and that we don't give up in the face of censorship when it tries to silence us yeah because if we give up because it is becoming harder and if we give up there is no dialogue there is no conversation we're doomed if there's no freedom of speech i agree with that i think it's one of the things that's hardest to maintain at the moment because as we look all around the world the noose is getting tighter and tighter in me in you know in the immediate aftermath of um aftermath when web sort of the web 2 platforms sort of took off. I think as individuals, we had the advantage on institutions, governments, and probably even the intel agencies to some point. And that's debatable as we sort of

have learned through various disclosures. But I feel at least in the last five to 10 years that it's really tightened up now, like they're stepping it up in a brazen way. There are legislative frameworks that are pushed ostensibly to protect the most vulnerable in society. But we've seen these playbooks many, many times. Can you tell us what you've been observing and what you've been working on and how you see those trends manifesting in sort of a tighter operating system? So I've been consistently pointing towards the end of this decade, 2030, as one of the milestones that many global organizations around the world are aiming for in order to conclude on some of the plans that they've put together decades ago. and those global plans are attempting to redesign redefine the way we live our lives

in on many different vectors um we are seeing it play out in almost every area of our lives and um i think there is no stone left unturned at this point where you can't really look, observe in a disillusioned, courageous way and say, oh, there has not been a change there. There's been a change in almost every walk of life. So whether it's education or health or energy, of course, money, as we like to observe and speak about a lot. those and many many more but that is not a coincidence the fact that agenda 2030 attempts to map again every area of our life breaking it down to 17 sustainable development goals and working actively on top down taking that policy and implementing it on the government

level in every nation state because we're talking about 193 countries around the world that have signed treaties into the united nations they are obliged to follow those agendas we are seeing all of that playing out being implemented in real time there's two things that stand out to me from what you've said 2030 is not that far into the future we're halfway through correct 2026 so that's three and a half years into the future so you know the noose is sort of tightening as we speak right the other thing is like when you speak of these plans in these agendas some people might think that um you're joining some unrelated dots together to form a narrative that suits your biases but where are you finding evidence of these plans in the united nation website for example

you just google those things there is a website for every sustainable development goals goal, there are organizations built around specific SDGs. So if you look, for example, at gender or food or energy, take each one of those SDGs, there'll probably be a website just for that topic. And then there'll be initiatives and other organizations that have been set up in the last few years specifically to tackle those topics. And they're called think tanks and they're being incentivized by forming public-private partnerships, bringing all the corporations in that specific topics into the table together with lawmakers, together with money people, so that we can actually create a policy that is not just theoretical, but actually practical,

and then being implemented in the field. And there are various pilots that have been created around many of those topics for example health it's very easy to look at for example vaccines in africa they've been using africa for a very long time to test many of the vaccines that have been rolled out to market through gavi for example which is an ngo gavi is one of the organizations that is supported or is founded by the bill and melinda gates foundation all this information is public knowledge this is not um and it's not even confidential it's all non-confidential information that's out there on the internet here's the here's the tricky part when you talk about those things and bring the the bring the agenda or bring the plan

to the surface and show people this is the plan this is the agenda and you as the messenger of that news is bearing those news as negative or risky then you're being called names i don't think anyone will um discredit or um argue with me that the plans exist because they do exist the question is the interpretation of them or the way you are delivering that information and most people will look at you like the normies right they'll look at me and they'll say yeah okay so it exists but that's a positive thing don't you want to like protect mother earth and don't you want to protect the children with age verification don't you want to make sure that grandma doesn't die because you didn't take uh the covid jab like things like that so they don't argue with you about the fact that

the plans exist they argue because they are working actively in implementing them like sustainability and climate for example something we talked about in the previous chat we had people are working actively on a daily basis on bringing that into their realities and some of the stuff that you're doing around those SDGs is actually positive it's actually not bad at all like I'm all for ecological environmental activities like for example there's a shopping center in Tel Aviv, where I come from, where the whole rooftop of that shopping center has sustainable ecological permaculture and ways to teach you how to grow food on your own and beehives. And there's some great stuff around it. But the problem starts when you start looking at

the nefarious intentions of those agendas and who's pulling the strings and where the funding is coming from and what is the incentive structure there and why do for example doctors receive incentives from pharma companies or lobbies without actually reading scientific research before recommending someone to take a product that hasn't been properly tested on people and that has a lot of warning signs in in databases for adverse reactions of vaccines for example like VAERS in the US, or the yellow card in the UK. I don't remember what it's called. There's a database in the UK as well. Just one example, like there's a behavior, a certain behavior or a certain pattern that you can always find, no matter which area you're looking at, that will show you

or will signal for you that there is something rotten in that supply chain, that someone's getting money or funded or an incentive, some kind of incentive from someone. An incentive, by the way, It doesn't have to be monetary, it can be behavioral, it can be you will keep your job or you'll get a promotion or we'll make sure that you're well off if you are participating in this protocol, the way we define it and don't question it. So there's always a certain way you should behave or you should follow. And once you step out, start questioning, start criticizing, that's when people start calling you names and you start suffering the consequences of that.

And that is not fun. But I think there is no question that those things happen. And to your point about the 2030, it's true that it's three and a half years from now. But the target is that at 2030, you will already be living your life in a different way. You will already be in that reality that they have envisioned a few decades ago. So everything we are talking about has to be kind of implemented right now, like 27, 28, 29. It's no coincidence you're seeing the digital euro, the CBDC in Europe, which has been considered to be like the, you know, the lighthouse of the Western society. You're seeing that being rolled out in 2027 and official launch in 2029. Like those things have to be in place already. That's why digital ID.

That's why the digital panopticon. That's why surveillance state is like on steroids right now, because it has to be done now if we want to live like that in 2030. So the three and a half years from now, it doesn't matter for us. Our lives are changing right now. And if you're not feeling it, if you haven't noticed any of what we're talking about, you probably live in La La Land. You probably live in a parallel reality because you may be tricking yourself to think that, oh, change is like a normal thing as long as it comes from the government or the state. If the state is dictating a certain change, there's probably a good reason for it. Or you're kind of justifying for yourself why you have to

stay in line with the party line without really confronting yourself with the tough reality of, do i want that do i choose that is it good for me is it good for my family is it good for my community is it going to nurture life decades from now and and and that's a tough thing to do because that confronts people on a very personal deep level and not just on a topical content not just like you know do i want this pharma product yes or no it's it's a way bigger question it's We are at a very confrontational stage of life right now. We're in a transitory phase. We're moving from one world order to a new world order.

This is changing the rules of the game and rewriting them in so many levels. You and I are fond specifically of looking at how the monetary order is changing, and we are seeing those changes. but that world order that is changing is way wider than just money yeah money is the in my belief is the top system that everything else trickles down from and all the other subsystems are um kind of protocols that are that are that have to adopt the same type of protocols or rule set that the fiat system holds so they're very similar but it is the most important system but all other systems are changing too and that is a tough it's a tough period for most of humanity

right now you mentioned the difficulty that you have sometimes as an activist and an educator in this space when you know the reality of what you find makes contact with normie land shall we say But I'd probably want to frame that in a different way. I think when it comes into contact with the narrative power structure, and you touched on that earlier, and I just wonder if you can break that down for us because there seems to be this whole structure and mechanism by which once an agenda is actually set, then all the other pieces come into play to reinforce that.

So you mentioned that there was the NGO infrastructure, the media infrastructure, the investors. So like, but where is the agenda coming from in the first place? Well, you know, that's like the million dollar question that everyone's speculating on. Is there like one consorted cabal of people who are decision makers? Or is this a different power structure? And one of the, I think, best discussions I had lately was with Simon Dixon, which you had on the show, right, as well. And I think his framework works better for me where you see three main power structures that have a certain dynamism between them, the military, the financial, and the technology one.

And they're all pulling the string in their own direction, trying to pull power in their interest. And different organizations that are subordinate to them are following the structure that is dictated from above. He also says, similar to what you said, that they ultimately are all subservient to the financial industrial complex. He thinks that that's the strongest one. I think that, yes, that the monetary system is probably what rules the world. We know how incredible the power of fiat is and the fact that when you have the ability to print as much money as you can, you can essentially control all of life. And so I tend to subscribe to that. I do believe, though, that speaking of cabal, that there are some groups of people that are members of certain societies, whether secret or not, and organizations that are putting it as a mission, as a project for themselves to look far into the future and to dictate how life is going to look like.

And this is not a new thing. It has been going on for a long, long time. And oftentimes, and this is where I think it intersects with everything we've been seeing related to the Epstein files and whatever. These people are on the verge of like between spiritual slash satanic to the physical realm and how they want to implement things in our lives, in our day-to-day lives. And there are certain virtues and certain protocols that they will put in place that will implicitly help them to deliver their agendas.

You can see that, for example, in media, which is a topic that is close to my heart because I used to work for 20 years in marketing and media. And so I know that industry quite well. And so just like one example, when they put something out there in the news, in the media, and tell you that that thing is going to happen and you think it's preposterous or outrageous and you don't agree with that but the collective consciousness of society is not doing anything about it they're just they're they're looking at it like starmer is like you know vomiting some verbal bullshit and no one is going to call him off in a in a significant way to actually stop

that, that thing actually happens, goes into law, whether it's an emergency or a long-term law. You plant the seed, you start the discussion, and before you know it, it's everywhere. It's ubiquitous. But the point is that if people didn't resist it and it didn't change and it just normalized into life, that is an implicit consent. And those people consider that as an okay from society to double down and keep going in the same direction. And those are some of the subtleties that people are not aware of. And that's why they stay, they stay like inactive in the face of a lot of bad stuff that is happening to us. because they think, oh, if I don't do anything or don't react about it or don't say what I think or

don't call it out, I'm safer because I protect myself. But at the same time, when most of us are doing that and the chunk of people that is actually brave enough or courageous enough to speak out is not big enough, they're getting away with everything. And again, it's also on the spiritual level. It's not just the everyday laws and physical stuff that we interact with. It's our implicit permission for them to carry on with their agendas. And that's why it's so important to speak out. Do you think sometimes the agenda setters use fringe elements in society to plant the seeds of these new ideas. Fringe elements like what?

Well, maybe some of the more sort of extreme elements on the political spectrum, for example, perhaps some people who are loudly spoken and prominent but largely discredited. But what will happen is an idea will get planted. Well, because that's how they open the Overton window. What's the Overton window? So the Overton window will be the allowed spectrum of activity

on a certain topic. So you would, you would look at, I want to give example because that's the best way, but let's look at internet access, right? So you open the Overton window quite radical, in a quite radical way when you say you have to be identified with your digital ID on everything you do online. That is quite radical because you go, what, if I want to purchase like a ticket for the train, I have to have a digital ID. if I want to buy, I don't know, a concert ticket, I have a digital ID. Like, where do we go? How far do we go? For everything? Everything? That's how you open an overtone window, when you radicalize it in that direction. On the other side, you say, everything is anonymous, like 100%. So you have a spectrum in which you can operate in. And then the more radical you open the overtone window, So the easier it is for those who are setting the agenda to set the agenda close enough to the top, to where they want it to get. They won't set it where they want it to get because people probably will revolt or will speak out.

So they'll go, oh, okay, so we'll do it a little bit less. Here's a great example, Switzerland. They were trying to introduce the digital ID, I think it was four years ago. They faced resistance from the people, because in Switzerland, as you may know, they have a pretty good democratic system in which people can do a referendum and come with enough signatures to bring up any topic that they want to the, I don't know if it's the parliament or the government, and then vote on it. And people have a lot more power than in other countries. And so they did back then, about four years ago, forgive me if I'm not accurate with the numbers, but they brought it up, the people resisted, it went down, like it was cancelled, didn't go through. Great, right? We don't need a digital ID to act, we can continue with a relative freedom to do what we did before. But the plant, the seed was already planted. Of course, they came back to the same topic now that

everything has to be digitalized because your digital IDs in the center of your life in the new framework, and you have to have it in order to just function in life. And so they came back to it a year ago, and they brought it up for vote again. But this time they changed something because here the overtime window was already opened four years ago. Now they came back to it something a little bit different. They said specifically that the people's problem four years ago was with the type of technological provider that they wanted to choose to implement that system. It was, I don't know, I remember if it was American or it was like foreign, it wasn't good enough, whatever. They had a problem with the vendor that was chosen.

Let's do it properly. And now we choose vendors that the people are happy with. so the question is not anymore should we have a digital id or not to live our lives it's which vendor would it be so we're going to implement yeah so once you open the the overtone window it's easy to then pass things and people get tricked like that because the you divert their attention from the actual problem of the narrative and you instill a slightly different narrative which is inside the overtone window and you start talking about whether that vendor is okay or not And lo and behold, that new update passed. The people, it was, by the way, 51 or 52%.

So the vote wasn't very conclusive, but it still passed. And the new solution is we're doing it with vendors that we trust, that are better. But we're still doing it. We're still having digital ID for functioning in Switzerland, where you would expect them to really push back on it. So it's done. That's such a great example. yeah yeah and just changed the focus of the conversation and it's very disheartening because

it shows you how powerful the power of media and narrative control is media not just in the sense of newspapers and tv and whatever look what we're doing here this is mind control it's like we're tilting the the narrative and the conversation the arguments are changing but we're we're diverting your attention from what's really the problem to a slightly different problem that is not really the problem yeah and then we're making and they do it in such a deep and profound and early enough way such that by the time you get the choice you feel like you're getting a choice between something but it's actually a fait accompli and you're just being given the impression of a choice at the end and it's a little bit like that's why i always call

them the nanny state because you know we we feel the symptoms of the nanny state in many ways how the government wants to intervene in almost everything we do and tell us what's right or not it's for protection all that stuff but i always do the comparison of uh you know i have a son so when he was a baby my mom who is a teacher a former teacher of like 35 years and she used to work with the younger generation she's very good with kids whenever my son would refuse to like eat something for example and she would really want to feed him with that because it's healthy she'd do the the oldest trick in the book you know a diversion oh look at the trees outside and the birds and whatever. He'd look there. It's like she would divert his attention. He'd come

back. He'd eat it. It works. We're like that. We're so simple. We're not so much more sophisticated than babies when we are not aware, when our consciousness is not given to the fact that someone is actually playing with our mind all the time. And fear is the oldest trick in the book to do that yeah diversion is one and then fear is the other one you scare people you show them why they can be harmed and then you bring it through as a solution what are the main vectors of attack that you feel that the system is closing in on us there are many obviously i think gender is one of them because they're destabilizing the um we talked about it before they're destabilizing the family unit they're harming children and teens self-esteem and when i said it was really

that's a really good example of how profound it is they start with corrupting the personal personal identity then courtship and dating perceptions are completely mismatched and warped such that pornography is pornography on top of that so it's like you were talking about the um malignant effects of social media on on teenage girls and their development and then also some of the sort of um misanthropic and misogynistic behaviors of young men as well and how they perceive women um and they're just completely at each other and so it's completely subverting the normal uh i guess behaviors around courtship and such that they're never really fully integrated and they start off on an antagonistic basis rather than i've got these butterflies in

my stomach she just looks so pretty and i want to get to know her where you never even get to that step yes you come at it from a totally different direction the way males and females would now be attracted to each other would be very artificial and driven by algorithms and that is a very unnatural way of species in nature to reproduce and to create life And here's the thing, I think there is a very top-down, deliberate agenda of harming our connection to our divine spark, our humanness, our connection to God, our belief in ourselves as magical creatures with lots of powers, multidimensional. No one will get you to put your attention on those things I just said now. Everyone will get you to put your attention on why you should look a certain way, why you should talk a certain way, how you should behave, and what kind of digital trend you should be following. Everyone.

And there is a wild pendulum swing to that direction now. and if we want to regain some of that i don't even know how to call it you just want to be normal again you just have to start looking at what are you being forbidden from doing or or thinking or being like what is being taken away from us and that is a big question and you know I cover some of those things in in you know I had a lot of time to think about those things as I'm analyzing you know I've been collecting data about all this stuff for many years but now this year 2026 is when I felt like that is the year that the internet is going to close down on us and the internet is a wild beautiful invention that we received a few

decades ago, and it started off, at least it felt like starting off quite free, quite decentralized, quite like open for people to explore, to gain more knowledge and to connect to each other. And slowly, slowly, it became more and more controlled and centralized and permissioned. Until the point now that in 2026, we are actually experiencing, and no one can deny that anymore, we're experiencing that digital panopticon, that surveillance state closing in on us on every level. So what we thought is legitimate, like accessing websites, like searching information, like

knowing more, like connecting with people, is now becoming under permission, under someone's control and the same thing is going to happen with our money very very very soon is being built we've talked about that but the the 2026 is really is really um pivotal in that sense and because of that you know we're i don't think i need to give examples but just let's name a few of them vpns yeah chat control um age verification isn't there a photo scanning legislation coming in the UK as well so that all devices will be scanned for the photography and video content surprise surprise this is already in place in Israel from October 7th after it had happened they had the right excuse to put that into law and say now we have the permission to look through

your devices because there may be really dangerous content in there related to terrorism and so it's in place already for a few years in Israel it's coming everywhere but yes in the UK it's now happening as well. So, you know, and we can go on. The list is very long, unfortunately. And then we're seeing it also in the way we communicate and in the way we transact, in the way we speak. It's like all freedoms are being harmed by this. And since we live in a digital world today, most of what we do goes through some digital channels, some digital infrastructure. So that has a very significant impact on our lives, on everyone's lives, whether you're a child or an adult or even a grown-up person.

The EU is a very good and bad example at the same time for how they are implementing a framework, the EU Digital ID framework, which every member state has to put out by the end of 2026. And Ireland is the guinea pig for that. So in Ireland, in the beginning of this year, they have launched a digital wallet that is connected to your social profile.

So a digital ID and wallet in the same app. Ireland is the first country in the EU to implement that, but everyone will have to implement that by the end of this year. Some of them will be late. Some of them will be early, like Switzerland's example. You know, the Overton window's already opened and Ireland has already implemented it.

Now it's a pilot. They say it's voluntary, but they're starting with the public sector forcing them to have it implemented in every public sector venue by the end of this year, next year, private sector. So all businesses similar to COVID rollout and then individuals. Now it's voluntary. Let's see what happens later. So the app has your driver's license, birth certificate, any other government issued ID under one app together with your wallet. And the digital euro that is coming in next year, guess what, is going to be implemented.

They're already calling it a wallet, right? It's a wallet. It's supposed to hold money. So it will hold the CBDC, the digital euro, by next year. And then every country in the EU will implement that. Now, France has shown us how when we think, when we assume that the state is a benevolent and competent entity to hold our most sensitive data, France showed us how this is complete bullshit. because in one afternoon, their database was breached with 18 million records sold to the black market with addresses, phone numbers of 18 million citizens. This is a third of France's

population. And that is the kind of centralized database, centralized ID database that the EU wants to scale to 27 countries so we are we are and this is putting up putting us in real harm real like uh not harm sorry real danger of potential attacks um i'm getting a lot of um whatsapp messages lately from people from different arab countries because of the fact that i'm israeli jewish they don't even know who i am and what i stand for just the fact that i'm listed as, you know, a person in those countries, I'm getting those kind of messages threatening my life, for example. I have to block these people. I hope that they write to me that they have my home address, the family address, you know, these things are very real for all of us.

And there never seem to be any consequences for the leak or any sort of pause for concern or reassessment. It's like, no, we just keep going. Yeah, because that's not our problem. We'll make it better. We'll make it stronger. We'll bring another vendor from the WEF think tank that proves to us that they know how to scan our ID in a better way through our retina or through our whatever ear in a much safer way. And then we'll know everything about you and you'll be safer. It's ridiculous. And so this is, you know, I think we've given enough examples to show what kind of dystopian reality we're stepping into and how we must start putting the attention on how do we fucking get the hell out of this and how do we build sovereignty in a world that just wants to control everything we do. Let's get onto that because you have a really interesting take on our sovereignty framework that you want to share with us. Yeah. So that's what I've been crunching over the last few months, being a digital nomad.

I think a lot about my different levels of sovereignty. One level of sovereignty is physical, which is quite obvious for people. Where do you live? What kind of passports do you hold? where is the jurisdiction that you owe some explanations to or reports to I'm not going to get into the whole straw man thing with you know you know they've they have our birth certificates and they're trading on it and so I'm not going to get into that but the fact that if you live like most people you still have to pay taxes somewhere and you want to kind of improve your physical

ability to move around and to be free between countries and around the world and so you have to think about your sovereignty on the physical layer that's quite obvious for most people then you think about your sovereignty on the digital layer all the risks we talked about are clear how do you start building sovereignty digitally again you and i are very well spoken on bitcoin which is on the money layer. By the way, I divided it to three. If you look at it as a matrix, I divided it to a horizontal axis and a vertical axis. On the vertical is the physical, digital, and spiritual. And on the horizontal, it's the money, identity, and voice and values together. Okay. So if we cross that matrix at any given point, we can look at this framework and say,

how free am I? I can score myself on every cell in this grid and answer the question, who holds this for me right now? Where is the control? Is it in my hands or is it in someone else's hands? How many interfaces do I have with centralized platforms or centralized entities that are dictating to me how I should be behaving, how I should be living my life, where I should be doing this, what should I think, what should I say, etc., etc. So this is a great framework to kind of analyze yourself versus your level of sovereignty, right? So if I go back to the digital layer, in the digital layer, when you look at money, obviously, we have a great solution already called Bitcoin. If you're not there, then what are you waiting for? And yes, it's not

perfect. Yes, it needs a lot more work. And we have great community, thank God, that is working on that. And I think this is one of the better news that we have for humanity today, that there is a way out from the monetary system and we can already start experiencing and living our lives in a different way if we embrace Bitcoin on the monetary level, which is what I've been doing again as a digital nomad. I have the freedom to actually take my Bitcoin with me wherever I go and not be scared that the government's gonna close my bank account or debank me. Credit cards block me all the time like i'm experiencing a lot of hardship when it comes to money but i have ways around this because i have bitcoin so i this is one of the things i'm going to show in my

in my presentation here in prop that's the money layer the identity layer how do you become more sovereign when you look at your identity so on the digital side we have protocols like noster that allow you to prove your censorship resistance or your sovereignty through a public-private key pair, just like you have with Bitcoin. If you can prove your resistance to money with Bitcoin, much the same way you can prove your resistance to control of identity with a key pair on your identity. And that technological infrastructure, digital technological infrastructure is already there with Noster. We just haven't developed the proper tools or maybe there are beginnings of it, but we haven't started working on that open source decentralized

protocol that's called Noster to implement that digital ID that I own. I own the private key, not the government, not the state. It's in my hands and I have the key for it. I am the one to be signing a certain digital event if I want to. So now we've mostly implemented that on the social media layer on Noster online, but what is going to happen two to five years from now when all our smart developers are starting to actually implement tools to help us evade, you know, the digital ID control of the state? That is, to me, very good news. Values and voice, you have to make sure, digitally speaking, that the infrastructure that you're using to access your channels, to access your distribution is not all held by other entities. You want to implement your own

sovereign AI as much as you can, privacy tools. You want to make sure you're as decentralized as possible as many platforms as possible. So when you get censored somewhere, you have other channels like happened to me on Telegram, banned 8,000 followers overnight, just gone and no explanation. Probably the government asked them to do that. Nothing helped. I was stuck in this AI dooms loop. But I could say, fuck you, Telegram, I don't need you anymore. I'm going to put all my energy and time on Noster, for example, for social media specifically. And that's where I'm going to build my community now. Plus, I have whatever, 100 plus thousand people following me on all the other platforms. But go back to websites, go back to decentralized protocols like Spotify, I mean,

not Spotify, podcasting on RSS, right? There are so many. This is a great example for how you can decentralize content online. We just haven't been doing that enough. PGP for emails. Like there is Nostr clients for email already that people are not using. And more and more stuff is going to be built. Your YouTube is going to be built over Nostr.

And yes, the network effect is still on YouTube. So we have to be there and we have to play the game. but we have to build the world that we want to see. So in terms of your ability to speak out, your ability to bring out your identity online, digitally, you have to work on your sovereignty for your infrastructure, for your voice and values to exist in the digital space. And then the last layer of that framework would be the spiritual layer.

And that's, I think that's a very important step that most people skip and skipping it is fucking expensive because when you skip that part and you don't stop to ask yourself, who am I? Who am I and who do I want to become? And what are my values? What are my, what is my mission in life? What is my vision for this life, for my family, for myself? And what do I stand for no matter the cost? What is my line in the sand if something happens if i get pressured like i got pressured many times over the past six years whether it was covid or my dissident voice in israel or october 7th or whatever and you spoke up in all of those moments in like the heat of the battle right yes right

when it was when it was the hottest time yeah you had nothing to gain i'm consistent in that way i'm persistent in that way i continue speaking out even when it's hard but here's the thing when i get attacked and when the pressure comes in, what saves me is not the tools. It's my clarity on what my values are, on the fact that what I stand for is freedom and sovereignty and that my mission is speaking out. My voice is my vehicle. I'm clear about that. When you wake me up in the morning and ask me, what's your mission? I know to tell you that it's that and I'll go, hell yeah, let's fucking go. Let's do that because that's what I need to do today. So I'm going to write another article or post another whatever thread or launch another podcast episode with some inconvenient truth in it.

And nothing will stop me, even when Pavel Durov decides to close my Telegram account. They will not stop me, even when I get sent all these horrible messages from people who threaten my life. Or I get invited by Tucker Carlson to speak on his show and I say no because I'm afraid for my safety, for my family's safety. So I will not go there. I will not go that far. But I have a very strong identity in place. And so when it comes to money, when I look at spirituality, for me, Bitcoin is a tool to transcend the way I experience life, the way I perceive life with a lot of freedom. It's a tangible spiritual tool for me.

Then when I look at my identity on the spiritual level, that is the basis for the sovereignty framework. Everything else comes later. The tools are built on top of your identity. If you don't have a stable identity, it has to be the wider layer, you will be destabilized very easily. Because guess what happens when people cannot control you on the physical or digital layer? They try to control how other people see you.

So developing that identity, that mission-driven calling, those values is so much more than a personal brand or a marketing asset. It's a real sovereignty tool, okay? So people have to do that work if they want to start building their sovereignty and taking it seriously and put the time on finding out who you really are and what you care about And what are the conflicts in your life or the traumas in your life that you didn't want to confront until today? And maybe now is a good time to do that when everything starts crumbling down around us. And then on the voice and values matrix cell, it's very clear that what spiritual sovereignty gives you,

when you have that spiritual sovereignty, your voice and your values are your best friends. they're like your guardian angels they're with you they will be following you and serving you in whatever your purpose in life is so that spiritual level is the most important one in my opinion and that's what i'm going to present here in prague and that's something that most people don't think about or don't talk about in bitcoin conferences or in technological conferences in general because we don't stop to think how important it is that we will be spiritually sovereign, and even psychologically sovereign. I know you had Helena on your show, for example. She's a great person to follow and learn how you can free yourself in the mind

from the spiritual control that they have over us. I really do believe that they control us through frequencies as well, through fear, through emotions, and even through frequencies that we cannot verbalize, we cannot name. And so being spiritually sovereign makes you so much stronger, makes you so much more resilient, and enables you to ask zero permissions and to give zero fucks. On that note, Efra, I love your passion. I love your intellect.

I love your courage above all. but the humanity in which you know you bring the humanity that you bring to the subject matter so that people can connect with it it shines through and um i thank you once again for being a wonderful guest can you please tell people where they can find you sure um i'll give you one link so they can click on that and get all my social channels we'll put that in the comments and everything and x i guess is the best place now and nostre excellent yeah and my podcast until next time Yes, thank you for having me.