You're The Voice | by Efrat Fenigson - Power, Money & Control: Mapping the Hidden Architecture of the World - Simon Dixon | Ep. 123

Episode Date: February 18, 2026

Simon Dixon is a geopolitical analyst, Bitcoin OG, and entrepreneur, formerly an investment banker. In this conversation, Simon does a deep dive into the real architecture of power shaping our world, unpacking how financial, military, and technological power structures intersect, and why incentives drive global decisions. From his early days in traditional finance to his journey into Bitcoin, Simon shares what he learned about how money is created, how influence is exercised, how power compromises, and why many leaders operate within larger systems they don’t fully control. We explore the difference between reforming the system and exiting it, the role of sovereignty, sovereign wealth and debt, how media and markets shape narratives, and why Simon sees Bitcoin and self-custody as tools for individual sovereignty. This is a wide-ranging discussion about power, truth, responsibility, and the practical paths toward greater independence in a highly controlled, corrupted world.→ Please like, comment, share & follow — to help me beat the suppressing algo's. Thank you!– SPONSORS –→ Access liquidity without selling your Bitcoin with Ledn — learn more at https://ledn.io/Efrat → Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn→ Have you tried mining bitcoin? Stack sats directly to your wallet while saving on taxes with Abundant Mines: https://AbundantMines.com/Efrat - Claim your free month of hosting via this link– AFFILIATES –→ Get 10% off on Augmented NAC to detox Spike protein, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice, please consult your MD)→ Join me at Europe’s largest bitcoin conference - BTC Prague, June 11-13, 2026. Code EFRAT for 10% off: http://btcprg.me/EFRAT→ Be good to your eyes & health, and get the Daylight tablet - a healthier, more human-friendly computer, zero blue light & flicker. Use code EFRAT for $25 off: https://bit.ly/Efrat_daylight → Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat→ Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat→ Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events– LINKS –Simon on X: https://x.com/SimonDixonTwitt Simon on Nostr: https://tinyurl.com/yc28uj5e Simon’s website: https://www.simondixon.com/ Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat’s Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigsonWatch on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat’s work: ⁠https://bit.ly/zap_efrat– CHAPTERS –00:00 - Coming Up... 02:05 - Simon's Backstory & Life Mission: Follow the Money & Uncover Forces Shaping the World 11:02 - Ad-Break: Ledn & Trezor 12:40 - Markets Extract Wealth from the Masses 14:44 - War Is Actually a Business Plan 20:55 - From Corporate Career to Teaching About Money 23:30 - Positive Money & Monetary Reform Community 27:27 - Deciding to Create a Bank! 34:45 - First Bitcoin Investments in Startups39:19 - Simon's Take on Bitcoin Startups & Investing in Them 1:00:50 - Trump Administration: PayPal Mafia, Stablecoins & AI 1:09:05 - Sovereignty on All Levels: Country, Corporate, Community, Individual 1:09:30 - Ad-Break: Abundant Mines & New Totalitarian Order Conference 1:18:16 - Financial Industrial Complex Dumping the Dollar 1:24:24 - Epstein: Why Were The Files Released Now, How Compromising Works? 1:29:19 - Who's Compromised in the Bitcoin Industry? 1:31:49 - The Spiritual Battle of Good & Evil, The Celsius Scam 1:40:51 - October 7th, Israel, Middle East & Geopolitical Interests 2:13:26 - Holding Nuanced Complex Realities & Final Thoughts

he asked me like son i've got no idea where is my money like where is it what happened to it and that kind of defined the rest of my life and 26 years later i'm still trying to help people answer that question in order to progress as a market maker you need to engage in degeneracy you need to be out in the drug scene in order to build relationships with the clients that you need in order to get to the next stage they pay these education system to teach you the shit that poisons our food, turns doctors into drug dealers, and turns economists into debt dealers. It's just a money laundering organization. And the only people that get published are the one that are attached to a financial agenda. So the whole system's wrapped up in an illusion of

democracy, an illusion that your vote matters. It's a pay to play system. And the higher you get, the more compromised you have to be. That's what the Jeffrey Epstein files were. People think like Israel rules the world. Now, Israel is subordinate to its own corrupt power structure, just like America is, just like UK is, just like the rest of the West is. And the military industrial complex has these blackmail operations and various other things.

People think it's like Jeffrey Epstein is like a one-off. There's thousands of Jeffrey Epsteins. There's thousands of them. All of those wars in the Middle East made someone trillions of dollars. The debt is the American person. The value is in the U.S. stock market. And there are a bunch of corruption in the middle that all got their cut for being useful to power.

And so Netanyahu doesn't work for the Israeli people. I don't think you fix the world. I don't think Bitcoin fix the world. But I think it gives you an option to exit. And I think it gives you an option to boycott. And I think it gives you an option to take that energy and channel your money into something that is better. Hello and welcome to another episode of You're The Voice. I'm Afrat from Bali this time and I have the honor and pleasure of being here with someone

I highly appreciate and follow for the past few years, Simon Dixon. Hello Simon, thanks for being with me. Thank you so much for having me. Looking forward to seeing where we take this one. There's so many directions you could take this. So I'll leave you to direct this. Yes, there are so many directions. And when I told some of my close friends that I'm having you on, they were like so excited.

They said, oh, it's the day. Today's the day. This is great because they definitely see the potential intersections that we can have in the stuff that we're doing. And so for my audience that may not know you, and there may be some that don't know you because not everyone in my audience are coming from a Bitcoin background or geopolitics. So just a quick intro, if I may. Simon is a Bitcoin investor, entrepreneur, geopolitical analyst and financial expert

who moved from traditional finance into Bitcoin after questioning how the system works and following the dotcom crash. He's a Bitcoin OG, has been around since the beginning and authored the book Bank to the Future. And he invested in many leading crypto and fintech companies at the time. And today he focuses on Bitcoin education, self-custody and geo-financial analysis, helping people understand the world from the lens of follow the money, which helps people understand the forces shaping our world. and i've been a fan for a long time and um could you could you share your backstory a little bit

like especially your dad's influence and what became your life's mission and purpose out of that yeah sure so um for me um my my journey in money um which has become a borderline obsessive um unhealthy very crazy um obsession over understanding everything about money and i don't mean you know just the accumulation of money like that's a part of it but just actually understanding the essence of the the spiritual side of money and the structural side and the effect it has on human behaviors it started for me 25 years ago wow we're 2026 so 26 years ago now um and um it was during the dot-com boom and bust um i was brought up by my father you know i i my my mother left at a young age for me and uh he was born in the 1933 so during the start of the

great depression that led into world war ii and uh you know he was in a town called bristol in UK, which was being bombed. He came from poverty. He was the seventh son of the seventh son. And he had, you know, one sister and five brothers. And they were brought up on a bus driver salary, which I just thought was interesting, although they lived in poverty, and they were surrounded by war and in a Great Depression, it was still possible for a bus driver to look after their family, and still have, you know, his wife, look after the children. So you know, he came from that extreme, I guess you'd say you can imagine the psychological impact of living through a Great Depression and going through a world war. And throughout his whole life, he kind of had a

chip on his shoulder to make it. And he had a very colorful life, you know, whether it be from gambling to uh trying to make it in the london scene you know he was flatmates with jimmy hendrix and all sorts of stuff but you know through wheeling and dealing um and hustling um going to prison coming out of prison he became a self-made millionaire and for him to hit that one million dollar mark like was sorry pound mark um was an unbelievable achievement for him But once he had made it, he hit that retirement age and I was about 18 at the time. And he decided that his kind of gambling type of mentality went into the stock market. And so he opened a brokerage account and opened an account with a company called TD Waterhouse.

Sorry, so much detail here, but I'll carry on and get it faster. and um yeah he put all of his money in and he made a lot of money because it was the doc it was leading up to the dot-com boom and then the bust happened and he lost everything and i remember him having such an amateur understanding of the markets but because he made so much money kind of reminds us of crypto people you know in a bull market he just got further and further and further into gambling at all until eventually he didn't really know much about markets but he logged into his account and it was virtually nothing left and I remember it was such a imagine you know how he felt his whole life from nothing to millionaire to nothing again at retirement age so uh he asked

me like son I've got no idea where is my money like where is it what happened to it and that kind of defined the rest of my life. And 26 years later, I'm still trying to help people answer that question. And so my first part of the journey was, well, where do you learn about money? And my father always wanted me to be in business and real estate and stuff like that. But for some reason, the answer that I was indoctrinated in into how do you learn about money is to go to university. So I went to university and studied economics and I didn't get the answer. So I thought I'd give it another try. So I did a master's and didn't get the answer. And then I said, well, what am I going to do? I've got to get a job in the city now. It was really interesting.

The firm, I went to Manchester University to do my master's in North England. And the firm that my father opened his brokerage account td waterhouse happened to be located in manchester so i knocked on the door and managed to just get myself a job as a t-boy in the stock brokerage firm that he lost all his money in and i was like okay now i'm gonna figure out what happened to his account and where it all went and um but i i managed to get a job as um after like i got promoted to being a stock broker and then once i was a stock broker i i learned that okay money is about selling stocks and uh often what you're selling is just narrative and story um and so then um i was like but i want to know how these stocks actually move like and so um as i was a

stockbroker i built a relationship with the market makers in the in the london stock exchange that were moving the markets and making prices and i managed to get myself a job as a market maker and so then i learned that the whole thing is market manipulation and you have these traders which are called sales traders and their job is to fulfill orders and often when you're basically they call it market making you know finding prices but half the time we had a whole book of stocks that were naked short and we couldn't cover them and so you know that's illegal but it was still a standard practice and um you know we would i would learn that when you push stories out in the media it's often to fulfill an order from a large institutional trader like

goldman sachs that's trying to sell while they make a buy recommendation in the and and so i just learned firsthand that um the normal person is always on the wrong side of the insiders this is this is very similar to the relationship between the pharma companies and the media companies they you know they they have this relationship where they pay them so much money for advertisement and they are lobbying as well and so they have so much power in dictating what narrative would be in the media so they can you know sell a defected product a genetic experiment to the public and kind of you know do a worldwide experiment on everyone just because of that power they have and it's very similar to how they scam us with money in in the financial

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need to engage in degeneracy you need to be out in the drug scene you need to kind of I just realized that in order to grow you're eventually going to be engaging in prostitution and all sorts of degeneracy in order to build relationships with the clients that you need in order to get to the next stage and so i kind of learned about that um you know wolf of wall street kind of cartoon character um but it's true and so you know i kind of learned about this whole to grow in that scene there is layers of what i think we're discovering now and i didn't see it to the full extent but i saw the the foundation of a compromise network that you have to kind of mutually compromise to grow as you rise to power in these corporate investment banking structures. So I decided that

I then was like, well, this is soul destroying. Maybe I should change into understanding how these companies got on the stock market in the first place. So I did my final job in corporate finance. And that was just helping venture capitalists exit their portfolios by taking the company's public and i kind of was at a smaller investment bank it was a danish um investment bank a dutch investment bank no danish sorry um kbc and um i started to learn that war is actually a business plan and um when you pitch certain companies that are going public i i kind of saw the inside track in what is being negotiated in a lot of these war zones right now and that to stop a war you have to make more profit from peace and that's actually just an algorithm and

an equation and there is a very defined process around this and so destruction yeah this is kind my first introduction to the level of detachment from the human spirit that happens within these financial transactions and securitization and financialization process and until you can come up with you know a 10x business plan then there's more profit from war and various other things but also just learning you know uh the whole process of securitization and financialization and how a business effectively becomes a product you know it starts as something that a founder has a lot of soul in and slowly you remove all that replace it with a governance structure and then once you're at the public stage kind of regulations and governance takes over what the business was

and then it becomes a tool for selling shares and raising debt and becoming subordinate to a greater financial power that relies upon you working for your share price and so i kind of understood all those incentive games and and again i went through uh my moment i hope you don't mind doing this level of detail because um i think i i love this level of detail but i'm pausing you for second just to give you a thought that came as you as you were sharing this beautifully i come from tech 20 25 years in tech and marketing and isn't it ironic that you know your one of your first jobs was like market making i want to use that term because one of the things that companies or entities need in order to grow and survive is a market they need they need a demand from the

market. And if they have the product, if they're already in the stage where they have the product, but the market is not ready for them, or the market doesn't have enough demand to justify their growth, they will create the market, they will create the demand. And so, you know, I'm looking at the parallels, where I come from in Israel, you know, I've been seeing the market making of war for decades when there is a relative peace and quiet they'll create the next the next thing the next operation the next war the next thing they just constantly create demand for war and then the sad thing is that the propagandized people that don't see what is actually happening and what people what kind of machine is working behind the scenes to create

that demand they then cheer for the arms and weaponry industry that is getting stronger and better as a result of that war or project or operation or whatever is happening it's like oh great we have demand again for those companies that are coming out of Israel and that the world now needs our weapons or whatever and it's not the biggest sector in Israel but it's one of the in export i'm i'm talking about it and also local demand but it's one of the biggest and it's insane that it's like a self-feeding loop you know we we create the but we we kill and destroy in the process yeah and when you're talking about your soul being like diminished during those years that's that's exactly the process that i felt that i'm going through or

that many people in Israel or in other obviously in other countries around us are are experiencing that you're just your soul is being corrupted and manipulated so many times to buy this this story the narrative the self-fulfilling prophecy that at one point you either become completely numb and zombified to it which is the state of most people where I come from or you you're like okay i'm i'm i'm leaving i'm i'm opting out this is ridiculous which is where i am okay sorry i just wanted to share that thought with you yeah i think it's important because um you know um yeah it's it's an interesting conversation for us because of my activism work against um israel at the moment and then obviously you've got the direct experience and we were talking

before this that at some stage these conversations need to happen and the human side needs to come in so let's carry on yeah um so that was the entirety of my corporate career i i hit the stage where i just threw in the corporate towel and it was 2006 so in stockbroking i learned that everything's about sales with no ethics in market making i learned that markets are completely rigged And in corporate finance, I learned that war is a racket and securitization and financialization is the process of taking out the soul and replacing it with a power structure that means you're subordinate to your investment bank and your financier. All of that kind of tied into my overarching philosophy of understanding how the stock market works and what drives markets. So I decided I couldn't handle any more of that. And I decided to quit my job. And I wanted to give lectures on money. And in order to teach people how the monetary system works, I didn't get my answers in university. And I didn't get my full answers in working as an insider in the investment banking. So I obsessively started, I kind of started with a conspiracy theory type of route where I was trying to understand like fractional reserve banking. And at those times, it was like, if you would tell people how money is created, you would be called a conspiracy theorist.

And so I watched like documentaries like The Money Masters by Bill Steele and various others. I read a book by Michael Raubaltham called The Grip of Death. And it started to teach me how the IMF works, how fractional reserve banking works, and how inherently fiat currency is a debt based Ponzi scheme. And so I decided to, you know, where there isn't actually enough interest in order to pay the debt, so you have to roll over the debt in a perpetual cycle. And that creates these cycles that, you know, begins and ends empires. And so I really started to try and understand like the structures and the institutional side of of this. And I got I think I presented approximately I started with the colleges and the universities and I was kind of helping the next generation that wanted to be financiers. And I would always end up like teaching them how money works. And there were certain institutions that would be very upset with my message. So I presented at London School of Economics. They were really angry at me for, you know, teaching how money actually works.

University College of London, they were really angry at me. Birkbeck University, Chicago, when I went and presented there as well. Was it a guest lecture or you were like a professor? I wasn't a professor, no. I was just giving lectures mainly around the guises of people like careers and stuff like that. But I would always put in my passion of explaining how monetary reform works. And so at that time, we joined some not-for-profits and one of them that was in the UK was created

from, so we built like this whole, you know, teaching people how money works and how banking works and we were always focused on the universities and from that a not-for-profit called positive money came which was basically educating people on how to reform money this this is actually really interesting because the person that worked for my company at the time he went and created a not-for-profit called positive money and we ended up in very different directions at the first conference had myself richard verner and a guy called ben dyson and i'll come back to this later but at some point i went down the bitcoin route richard verner started saying bitcoin's a scam and it was created by the cia and he ended up in the quantitative easing

route and he worked for the bank of japan and various other things and ben dyson ended up going down the digital money route and ended up working for the bank of england in their central bank Digital Currency Initiative, and then left to work for the Bank for International Settlements to create their Enbridge, you know, central bank digital currency payment route. So three of us kind of went in very different directions. And it all came from those early like monetary reform conversations. But in UK, the monetary reform community before Bitcoin was basically a bunch of pensioners that were trying to figure out how do we return to a gold standard and the conversations were just you know like you know the the average person was like age

60 to 70 and we used to meet every year in this place called Bromsgrove in Birmingham and nothing would ever happen like people would write books explaining how money would work and And, you know, I was I was a young whippersnapper that was trying to say, right, how do we change the world? You know, very ignorant at the time. And so I said, like, well, look, let's engage in politics. So I was invited to House of Lords. I was invited to Parliament at this time. And I would the the financial crisis happened, started 2007, 2008. And suddenly, like a few people in a room turned to hundreds of people in the room. And then they were doing like inquiries into what happened during the financial crisis.

And so I was invited to come and speak at these types of events. And I thought all I needed to do was get politicians to understand how this system works. And then they change it. Then I realized that actually the sponsors of the inquiry was the banks. and so sir john vickers who was a banker and a sir and a lord was the person that was inquiring the banks and yet he was sponsored by the banks and so i kind of learned that oh wow governments don't work for the people they work for their lobbies um and so you know i i discovered that i'm trying to persuade the government to change the banks and they are effectively bought by the

banks. And so I learned the utter, you know, I learned the utter hopelessness that you can't change, there's no political solution. Because the people that control the government are the same people that benefit from this system. And so that was a realization. So now we've done university, we've done every career I could get, we could get, then we realized politics doesn't have a solution. So then I was like, okay, what about entrepreneurship? Maybe that's the answer. my father brought me up to be in you know an entrepreneur how did I end up in academic how did I end up in you know in a job so I kind of tried to go back to my route and so my wife was working in commercial banking I was working in investment banking and had left and we decided

why don't we create a bank and so we thought that would be a good idea and so he said right I've got an idea let's just show the government what a non-fractional reserve bank looks like and so we were like okay sure so um we pulled together all of our last savings and uh you know we uh we decided to create a bank and so this is when we formed a company called bank to the future it was in the uk and we said right what do we need well we need a team of people that have created a bank and so we recruited um some of the people that worked for a bank called metro bank and the reason we recruited them is because in the last 100 years prior to this whole technical stuff only one bank had been approved to get a banking license and it was um what you know to

have direct clearing into the bank of england there was only four banks and a fifth bank was added and that was metro bank and so we managed to actually recruit the team that applied for the license and made it all happen and i was thinking okay all you need is the team that know how to do it then you'll get the license and so what i shortly realized is that no i wasn't in the right circles and the reason they got a license is because they came from a family of elites and they agreed to submit to how the system works i wasn't in that club and so i put together the best team we could we could and we got the meeting in order to with the regulators to find out what we needed to do to get this banking license and so one of the first thing that happened is um

my myself and my wife um came in and they looked at my wife and i'll never forget this they said you're not the type of person that we would normally regulate and so immediately that was like okay and we presented our business plan and the long and short of it is they said well to continue this application we're going to need 16 million at the bank of england in a bank of england account and you're going to have to get an agreement with a bank to build on top of their bank and so i was like yeah but we want full reserves we want you know we don't want to re-hypothecate. We just want to create a safe storage for people's money. We want them to direct the flow of their money. We want to charge a fee for offering that. And we don't want to

re-hypothecate. We don't want to make money through debt. And they said, yeah, fine, you can do that, but you have to put the money at Barclays Bank and build on their technology and they re-hypothecate for you. So I was like, okay, so what you're saying is that we get the problems with full reserve but we're still fractional reserve and they said yes of course and so it turned out that even if you want full reserve and you want to have people custody their money it's actually impossible you have to build on top of a fractional um reserve bank you have to have 60 million to start the process and there are a type of people that they give license to and we weren't in that club um so i thought okay so you can't create a non-fractional reserve bank through

entrepreneurship uh maybe you can do it through technology and so at this time there was a movement of fintech companies and one of the companies was called zopa and it was a peer-to-peer lending platform started in 2006 and basically you could rate you know you could take people could pull their money and then you could lend it and um you know that that was kind of the mechanism but then they had to have the money at a bank and then therefore it would be engaging in fraction so what i realized is there's no exit like whatever technology you come up with and and um you still are built upon this system and there is no way of exiting that system um so that cost me everything and we went deep in debt um and i decided to write a book and that

was bank to the future protect your future before governments go bust and i was explaining what needs to happen to change your system and and that brought me in the world in the sphere of digital currencies and various other things and uh again this is a this isn't a short story but i hope this is okay like going down this course of course go on so um the next phase was um i got a as i was writing the book i got a message this is 2010 at this stage i got a message uh from a guy that was part of the monetary reform community and his name was johnny bitcoin um and johnny bitcoin messaged me and said hey simon um i've decided i'm not going to be involved in any of that stuff anymore. But I've moved out of my house. I've sold my house. And I've moved into a squat on

Old Street with these people that are working on the code of something called Bitcoin. It's the future of money. Why don't you come and check it out? And so this is when I met some of the very early Bitcoin developers, like Amir Taki and various other people. And they were in a squat an old street and uh i was i included bitcoin in the book and um started looking at um all these different aspects of how bitcoin worked and amir taki was running a conference in prague in 2011 and he invited me to speak and there was like max kaiser there and uh you know various other people and uh you know i was watching the price of bitcoin at this stage um it went at the time of conference it went from $30 to $3 so we had a 90% correction and crash and then yeah just

met the Bitcoin community and then because I was writing the book I kind of I wasn't skeptical about Bitcoin because I was looking for an exit to build a bank and so I was very receptive to how it worked because I realized this is actually an exit yeah and so that was my first introduction to bitcoin my wife we didn't have enough money because we were just deep in debt at this stage we were about you know it was a massive amount for me at the time but we were about you know 250 000 pounds in the hole uh just trying to get this business plan moving uh neither of us had a job um and um she said let's take our last bit of credit card debt and go to this conference in prog and it turned out to be a really good decision wow your wife is super cool yeah yeah

and so um yeah that was um bought bought the first bitcoin at three dollars but understood the structure and and and that was when really the thesis came out it was that this is money you can own it's a self-custody yeah this is money you can spend without permission yeah um so peer appear and there's actually a monetary policy attached to this which is there's a fixed supply and so realize that okay this is where we should spend all of our time and attention and that yeah that was my my first introduction to bitcoin and then at the conference there was a guy called tony gallipi pitching a company called bitpay and max kaiser and myself ended up investing in it because the price of Bitcoin went up. And we decided, well, let's make this

more usable for people. And so there were all these companies. And later, Max and myself created the first Bitcoin venture capital fund called Bitcoin Capital. And then we went through this whole journey all over again in Bitcoin. So we pivoted bank to the future, realized you can't create a bank so why don't we create a securities business and basically we ended up at bank to the future we ended up kind of creating as crazy as it sounds right now but in retrospect i understand what we created we created like the black rock of bitcoin companies which is that we were pulling together our money and everyone else's money in the bitcoin community and then investing in these bitcoin companies but we would structure it as an s a special company in cayman island an spv

and then we would end up with the voting rights and so we'd end up having influence over these companies because we no no venture capitalists was interest there was no one in our industry at the time and so you know we ended up realizing okay so through these structures you end up influential over the company to a certain degree depending on the more you invest We were investing our money and you pull together other people's money. And later we ended up investing in over 100 companies in the industry from Coinbase, Kraken, Bitstamp, Bitfinex, BitPesa to help Bitcoin payments in Africa, Bitso to help Bitcoin payments in Mexico, Airtm to help Bitcoin payments in Venezuela and Argentina, Unocoin to help Bitcoin transactions in India. and just trying to help all these different parts of the ecosystem set up.

And they all started as Bitcoin companies and then ended up as shitcoin companies. And the ones that succeeded to the highest degree ended up effectively on the market like Coinbase. It ended up going public at like 100 billion valuation. But once you're there, you become just a tool for the banks because you have to be subordinate to the banks and you end up becoming a bank. And so I saw the whole ethos

of how the financialization and securitization just drives you into propping up the existing system and through regulation and compliance. The mission kind of went from let's help a bunch of Bitcoin companies to, all right, now we need to do AML, KYC and suspicious activity reports and bank secrecy act and from just trying to help bitcoin companies raise finance and be a

securities business you realize that you're just captured into the system yeah and so 90 percent of my time ended up on surveillance aml compliance um suspicious activity reports preventing money laundering and and if i got it wrong as an executive you go to prison um and so you realize that and and you have to you're not you're not allowed to be transparent about these you know so i saw how the system's just so captured that the second you create a centralized company you then need to answer to investors and then you need to get a license and once you get a license you're in the system and you can't exit the system and so that that was my experience eventually you know after raising finance for all these companies coinbase became so big that we ended up selling

our company to coinbase but keeping much of the assets as a and became just an asset manager but we didn't want to raise finance because any more companies because i i saw everything You know, we ended up investing in companies that became scams, companies like Celsius that I think were deeply connected to intelligence ops and saw everything, everything you could possibly imagine just by investing in a portfolio of 100 companies and running a regulated company. So, yeah, anyway. Today, you don't invest in any Bitcoin company? You're not an investor? At the moment, I've hit the stage where I want to cleanse myself of all companies because I saw so much and got burnt by so many people and saw the corruption that happens in order to grow in this sector as a centralized company. i learned that you could you start as your original mission and you end up subordinate

to what i call a financial industrial complex and i saw how silicon valley were tools of control and the public markets and the debt capital markets are tools for leverage and subordination And I kind of learned how systemically and architecturally, in order to succeed as a centralized company, you become a cog in a wheel and a part of the machine. And so, you know, I decided that I would de-vest myself from as many of these companies. And that's kind of like where I am at this stage. Do you think, I mean, you recently had a conversation with Jeff from Ego Death, for example. Do you think that some of the Bitcoin companies that exist today, they are also in this swamp or they have a level of freedom, relative freedom, because their investors are Bitcoiners as well? Look, if you succeed as a centralized company, you will eventually be tethered.

You will have to deal, the more you succeed, you will have to deal with investment banks. You will have to subordinate to banks in order to get your fiat on ramps and off ramps. You will have to subordinate to regulators that will turn you into surveillance machines. You will also, if you want to rise in getting access to the real capital, you'll be involved in blackmail operations and degeneracy operations and compromise operations. And eventually, they'll put transactions through your platform that means that you either end up in prison or you become a tool for power. And that's the reality of how it works. And so if you're running a financials or you'll stay decentralized and you'll end up in either you managed to do it as Satoshi did it or you'll end up in the same place that the samurai wallet people ended up.

and so it is a very chilling effect and if you want to work with government i i did the whole government thing so we put together a bitcoin bond backed by bitcoin mining in iceland in 2014. we tried to give a bitcoin strategic reserve and legal tender strategy to the uk and uh ended up getting booted out of the country ended up having you know being targeted by the political elite in order to shut down our company we had to i had to leave the country ended up moving to hong kong and reincorporating in different jurisdictions to survive tried to do the same on a on a on the island man i got the whole government to make bitcoin legal tender at the bank of england contacted the government and said we're going to remove clearing to your island if you do this

so i realized the bank of england is you know a higher up of the structure the power structure I just started to develop an understanding of how real power works. Tried to support Bichelli in the Bitcoin bond. You know, I don't really tell my story, but got myself on the wrong side of IMF economic hitmen and understand that there are real powers, you know, real powers. And you understand how these mafia networks work. And so you may be allowed to do a Bitcoin strategic reserve, but you have to negotiate with a mafia in order to be able to do that

and there is a whole hierarchy um you know so all my experiences with doing that for government made me realize that you know countries have choices they either go down the venezuela route and look what happens there or you go down the subordination to greater power route imf technical industrial complex financial industrial complex and you might just might be able to achieve something like bekelly achieved but the ultimate power structure is still there and until you build sovereign wealth for you as an individual now here's the beauty bank to the future never needed silicon valley money because we put bitcoin on our balance sheet from yeah from the beginning and we managed to we managed our money where the gains in bitcoin meant we could

uh avoid raising finance and we we we had a small group of ideologically aligned investors but there were attempts to try and get us into that silicon valley infrastructure and we didn't need it we didn't do it we decided to grow organically using bitcoin on the balance sheet and we maintained in the we maintained independence until the whole regulatory side kicked in um okay so so stop for there for a second so this is a way i'm looking for a ray of light for hope for the bitcoin startup ecosystem for them to continue to to bloom Is there a way? Are you saying that that is maybe the way? Maybe if they hold Bitcoin on their reserves and then they bootstrap

and they don't have to have dependency on VC money, etc.? So you've got to deal with the regulations, you've got to deal with the banking, you've got to deal with the funding, you've got to be in a jurisdiction where you get a degree of autonomy as an individual, in a jurisdiction where your corporate structure has a degree of autonomy, me and then you've got to hedge with multiple jurisdictions yeah that that that's hard that's very hard it's a complex game yeah and i've seen a hundred different companies go through that and i went through that and um you know eventually you need to play jurisdictional arbitrage and

if you're going to use a corporate structure uh then yeah i'm we avoided going public we ended up selling our company to those that were going to go public. We maintain the assets and we set up a structure whereby effectively without doing business, we could just manage those assets and the operating business was taken away, you know, in order to do that. But Bitcoin on the balance sheet was what kept us independent and sovereign. And so me as an individual, I became sovereign because of bitcoin the company remained sovereign because of bitcoin uh but if you do the whole bitcoin treasury company you're a bitch of wall street you're raising equity capital from the investment banks you're raising debt finance from that's a different game that's the distinction

yeah that's very and you're buying bitcoin which means you're playing the game of centralizing bitcoin for power and centralizing bitcoin for power is an attack vector on bitcoin yeah and so there's a reason why wall street wanted to create as many bitcoin treasury companies and nodes like canter fitzgerald were deployed in order to do that and we're seeing canter fitzgerald you know connected to um howard lutnick and he's he's a uh someone that's under fire right now because of his connections to compromise networks like jeffrey epstein of course um okay but hold but wait well right we're gonna get to bitcoin more because i i have other stuff that i want to ask you about and i'm looking at the clock and i'm like fuck i only have like an hour left with

you so i want i want to take you to a few other directions and then we'll get back to bitcoin later because it's so natural for us to just get there okay so how do you see it you always say that you don't think there's a cabal but a complex web of relationships incentive structures etc and you talk in your work about the military industrial complex the financial industrial complex and technological industrial complex i highly recommend people who haven't heard this is the first time you're hearing those terms to go to simon's youtube and just you know watch any one of his videos he's he's explaining that i don't know if we have time to go deep into it but you can maybe give like a high level overview on what that is but do you think that many world

leaders like i'm calling them world leaders are coordinating deals and dependencies behind the scenes and presenting one narrative publicly while as as they do that the real multiple world order is shaped quietly behind the scenes like through these relationships so is that how you see things basically yeah so i just kind of described how subordination works at the corporate structure the same thing happens at the government structure so governments need funding they have a few mechanisms for funding they can print money which makes you subordinate to the central bank which has its own hierarchy most central banks are members of the bank for international settlement the bank for international settlement is its own country jurisdiction army and police force

located in switzerland basel um yeah and uh which uh has a global structure of coordinating global fiat currencies and so you have a central banking structure and money printing at the bank so the banks get to create your currency every time they issue a loan so you have subordination to a central banking structure depending on how you structure your central bank and the banks that create your fiat currency through fractional reserve banking those are two leverage points you then also have bonds so you can sell government debt to the people but that makes you subordinate to an investment banking structure so now you've got an investment bank a commercial bank a central bank and then who ends up buying your bonds well they end up normally massive large and pools of capital

like pension endowments which makes you subordinate to the asset managers who are the largest asset managers that's blackrock state street vanguard so now you're in the western financial industrial complex and sovereign wealth funds and so and whoever ends up buying your you know wealthy rich individuals within your own oligarchy within your country and so within your own oligarchy within a country you tend to have the underworld the shadowy world that um you have the rich oligarchs and they end up buying your bonds in order to influence power and so then they have an overarching structure so overarching your country works for your bondholders your investment banks your commercial banks and your central banks then you have a mechanism for

funding congress senate judicial whatever it may be that normally comes from lobbies and lobbies have terms and conditions they don't just give money because they're trying to support their country or police they want favors and so every politician is funded by a lobby and those lobbies say here's your goal i'll give you some money and if you achieve your milestones i'll give you more money and so all politicians become prostitutes for this power structure then you need other factions of power so you got the money what else is powerful well you know you have energy you know if you're blessed with energy if it's oil or resources or gold or whatever it may be on your land then you either get on the wrong side of a foreign military which regime changes

you to get access to your resources, bombs you and blows you up to gain access to your resources, destroys your currency to gain access to your resources, installs a dictator to gain access to your resources, funds a covert militia group to destroy your country in order to get access to your resources, or you are able to negotiate with this power structure by keeping your resources and putting it in a sovereign wealth fund and partnering with this financial industrial complex so if by some miracle you don't get assassinated kill regime change destroyed a currency ward if you play the game well enough then the best you get is to keep your resources put it in a sovereign wealth fund and partner with the financial

industrial complex where the transactions you do together means that they don't kill you and by kill you i mean the empire this this central banking empire that is able to use its financial weapons of mass destruction to subordinate every company that goes public every company that raises silicon valley financing and compromises up the network and so then you have resources and and choke points and people want to steal your resources and your choke points why because they want to take your assets use fiat currency uh to gain access to the the you know the power to take those assets and then store it at gold at a central bank so all they wanted was hard money in the end but they used your resources and fiat currency to steal your hard

money. But everyone's in a game of monopoly to try and end up with all the gold in their central bank. And you have sovereign wealth and debt and capital markets to try and steal it is kind of the game. So some of that money goes into a military industrial complex. And that military industrial complex is pitched as acting in the country's national defense. But it's actually co-opted by corporate power and so if you want some oil chevron and exxon and the lobbies can say hey senate congress and blackmail via the deep state for judicial go get me some venezuelan oil and the military industrial complex is deployed now military industrial complex is a racket in itself because the u.s stock market

in the post-Bretton Woods world order was propped up by this military-industrial complex. And so if you've got a debt-based Ponzi scheme where the government is subordinate to bondholders and bondholders are funding both sides of an ideological war, let's call it capitalism and communism, then you can burden all the people with the debt. We've got $38 trillion of debt right now and you can control where it goes pentagon budget lobby and push it into the u.s stock market to help lockheed martin general dynamic raytheon and you can structure it through financialization and securitization which helps jp morgan city bank bank of america and then you can take all the people's money that you're pulling together through fund management and it helps

BlackRock, State Street, and Vanguard manage all this portfolio, get 20,000 board seats on every single public company. And how does a corporate structure work? You have an executive team. These are the entrepreneurs that you think rule the show. They work for the board. The board is there to protect the shareholders. And they're for shareholders. And the board works for the shareholders. So it's the shareholder class that rule. And a company like BlackRock and an asset manager can pull together everybody else's money. It's kind of like we did at Bank to the Future to get on the cap table to then have strategic influence through shareholding. And then if you get enough shares, you control the board. And if you control the board, you control the executives.

and if you build a derivatives complex and a media complex and an etf complex you control the markets and so if they don't do what you say you crash their share price you push out media you use a derivative complex in order to make them poor why because where is most people's net worth it's paper net worth it's not real net it's not gold it's not bitcoin it's not cash it's securities what do they do they someone like elon musk you allow them to borrow against their securities to buy a platform like x as long as you give them all the data and turn it into a social credit score in the end and we'll allow you to use the media to manipulate the narrative to make people think that you're giving them freedom of speech when in reality you're getting

people to talk to feed an AI algorithm to prop up real power and if you don't do it well we're going to start mentioning you on the Epstein files or if you don't do it we're going to crash your share price and if you don't do it you're not going to be able to borrow against your stock and so it is all leverage and so the whole illusion of net worth again is a subordination structure for power the higher your net worth in this structure the more subordinate you have to be in power in the world of financialization and securitization but if you own actual hard money bitcoin sovereign home money self-custody then who do you answer to you answer to yeah and if you have gold in self-custody who do you answer to well you answer to the structure

of custodians because it doesn't scale you know you can't take a giant amount of net worth and some people could build their own bunker or whatever it is that they do to own it in self-custody that doesn't scale well particularly if you can't co-opt a government and you need to leave or you just put it in somebody else's structure and then you become subordinate to the custodian and the custodian is going to then leverage it to create more paper contracts and more derivatives so all all this to say is that it is in the exit that you're able to exit the system everything else is an optical illusion that draws you into a power structure so i talked about the military industrial complex yeah where does the military get its money pentagon budgets

financialization and securitization stock value so who do they answer to you know if you want a pentagon budget and you're in your lockheed martin you buy the politicians and so all the money you get a trillion dollar budget that's now going to be increased to a trillion and a half because you own all the politicians and in order to maintain that share price and gain access to the debt capital markets and the equity capital markets and the derivative complex you answer to the banks And so the banks control the military. They also control the technology companies. That's the technical industrial complex. Now you can have blackmail through data and algorithm, through surveillance. And these tools, these platforms are weaponized against us in order to create effectively this surveillance state. Now, what does power want? The power wants programmable money with a social credit score and artificial intelligence, integrated military grade technology, financial weapons and mass destruction. so look at america right now around the trump administration who's doing stable coins and ai

david sacks he came from the paypal mafia who's doing social credit score on the name of freedom of speech elon musk paypal mafia who's doing ai contracts integrated into ukrainian drones occupation as a service in the west bank using palantir genocide as a service in gaza using Palantir, splitting up Ukraine for Russia and BlackRock, Palantir, creating a pre-crime arrest police state in UK, Palantir, doing crowd control and annual hard surveillance in Saudi Arabia, Palantir, doing border control in America under the guise of immigration, open borders closed borders palantir who's doing all of the european union you know stirring up racial tensions all right so x is trying to say you know all these different religious tensions

racial tensions uh white nationalist movements these platforms these social media platforms have become platforms for galvanizing radicalized ideology you and me know exactly what happens when you galvanize a radicalized ideology and you feed them lies and mistruths you know what that is that is israel and palestine right now yeah you know um they are these algorithms are doing it to everybody right now let's say you're a white nationalist you get put in the nick fuentes algorithm and all of your ideology pushes you down that route maybe you're a very extreme radical zionist maybe you're believing that iran is there just for palestinian rights you'll be pushed into the algorithm where it radicalizes you further into the most extreme version of

yourself democrat i mean look at democrats republicans conservatives i mean it's laughable at this stage if you think that changing the politician changes the system and if you think that it's the the radical left socialists communists that are your problem and that or you think that it's the fascist you know um extremist um conservatives is your problem right now you don't know how power works there is a uni power and it is money that determines it everything. If you want to fund a militia group, it requires money and control of media to radicalize an ideology. And who do they work for? Who do these armies work for? You think you're working for nationalism in your country. No, you're working for JP Morgan. You're working

for Lockheed Martin. You're working for General Dynamic. You're working for BlackRock. You're working for Palantir, because the biggest weapon that they have is extremism and radicalized ideology, weaponizing religion and racial tensions in order to make you think that you're more moral when you're a useful idiot for power. And how do they reward you? They take your money, and when you borrow to get a mortgage you help the bank create some dollars and you end up with the debt and they end up with the real estate they own the real estate until you pay the mortgage then you've got to pay it five times over in interest and if you don't pay that interest you'll find out who owns the real estate okay they get to create money just by you becoming

a collateralized debt obligation you are a product of debt they need you working to pay your interest and never repaying your debt. Because if you repay your debt, the money comes out of the system and they need to find another useful idiot. So you are just simply a collateralized debt obligation. You are a mortgage-backed security. And then how do they pay the interest? Well, they need you to contribute to your pension so that they can pull together all the money. And then they buy these mortgage-backed securities and collateralized debt obligation with your pension, with your insurance premiums and with your overpriced education and endowment fund that they pay these education system to teach you the shit that poisons our food radicalize like create turns

doctors into drug dealers and turns economists into debt dealers you know they control the education system through these it's just a money laundering organization and the only people that get published are the one that are attached to a financial agenda. You know, so the whole system's wrapped up in an illusion of democracy, an illusion that your vote matters. It's a pay to play system. And the higher you get, the more compromised you have to be. That's what the Jeffrey Epstein files were. Now, what's the technical industrial complex? It is, as we said, it is the weaponization. What is all this technology originally created for? You think they just gave us iPhones and social media. Every single component in our iPhone, in the technology that we have to use,

in our artificial intelligence, was originally innovated for killing people. And it required the quote-unquote radical terrorists that are forced to fight these ideologies to steal resources across six continents to get the rare earth minerals, to get the energy, to get the components, to get the commodities that were effectively only achieved through death, destruction, genocide, ethnic cleansing, crimes against humanity, weapons trafficking, humans trafficking. You think these mafia networks operate without government? That's what the intelligence agencies get this money for, is black op operations. They're trafficking our children in order to prop up a debt-based Ponzi scheme,

in order to maintain power, to leave you with all the debt. Your job is to get all the debt, the national debt, the corporate debt, the individual debt, while they pump it all into the stock market, US stock market, 92% of stocks are owned by 10% of the people that are the very same people that you're seeing listed in an Epstein file that are part of this compromise. So fiat currency is a proof of weapons network that weaponizes media, that weaponizes pharmaceuticals, that weaponizes technology, that weaponizes finance, that weaponizes military in order to roll over the debt-based Ponzi scheme. And what are they, you nationalists, what are they going to do to your country once they bankrupt the government?

What did the Bank of England do to the British government once they bankrupted it? They change the empire. They reset the order. They put all the gold in the Federal Reserve rather than at the Bank of England. They create wars. They profit from the transition. And then they rebuild and they rebuild back a surveillance state. So the entire fiat currency system is propped up by crimes against humanity in a debt-based Ponzi scheme that leaves you with all the debt and the power with all those that control the assets. It's a game of monopoly. Everybody ends up with the debt and a few people end up with all the real estate.

And then they convert that real estate to hard assets, which is what they wanted in the first place. That was a short answer, wasn't it? That was a perfect answer. I have so many follow up questions to that, but I'll just do one or two of them. Do you think that there is any nation state today that is either not compromised or just compromised minimally, like the least as possible by those factions? Or is the whole world screwed up? Is El Salvador or Bhutan or some of those places, do they have relative sovereignty or is everyone fucked up in the same way? I want to introduce you to Abundant Minds because they take a very different approach to Bitcoin mining. Most people buy Bitcoin, but the smart ones mine it straight into self-custody. With Abundant Minds, you can do it without giving up your privacy.

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been our brains have been trained into extremist ideology we're either on the left or the right is either good or bad there's no such thing in geopolitics there's there's and and with sovereign as well i'm i'm sovereign to the degree that i what you know i do things to become more sovereign yeah yeah you know we can't be a hundred percent but i'm still subordinate to my government structure i'm still subordinate to a structure that means that i still own my property and it doesn't get stolen you know so we all have degrees of power no matter how sovereign all we're trying to do is be more sovereign are we more sovereign or less sovereign with our decision making and and that's kind of the the radar that people need to think about so how do

you become more sovereign well you have a central banking system that opts out of the bank for international settlements control grid um there's only a few today who uh pboc is one of those in china so pboc works under its own structure because it has community banks that create money that money then fuels a sovereign structure that is then reinvested in its own people that now some people would call that socialism or we call it communism pick your whatever you want to do it but that's an independent structure for creating fiat currency and being utilized to reinvest into your own people rather than working for bondholders that then props up foreign so if you're investing it in treasuries then you're propping up the dollar which is the kind of the

host of this proof of weapons network at the moment in order to create the military that makes you subordinate so your money is propping up a foreign military to make you subordinate to their structure or you have your own central banking structure in a fiat currency world you then have your resources do your resources remain and go into a sovereign wealth fund that sovereign wealth fund is your defense against foreign forces by using co-investments in order to ensure that your country um has some leverage when it's negotiating with the financial terrorists and you have to negotiate with them because they will destroy your currency yeah they will destroy they will steal your resources they will regime change you

that's right you had one of your recent episodes is like five currency wars which i highly recommend people go and watch on your youtube where you just outline how right now we are witnessing five currency wars in different places around the world where they're just coming in and sabotaging the country through the currency right yeah including the internal civil war to create a technological industrial complex surveillance state stable coin versus a legacy structure and you know the the technification of the federal reserve system under a different guise so you have sovereign wealth through resources you have central banking and then you have your ability to resist against it if you rely upon somebody else's military if you rely upon somebody else's

resources if you rely upon somebody else's strategic choke points the best you have is using your sovereign wealth in order to do a transaction that ensures you have you're not on the wrong side of the military industrial complex that's the best you can hope for so in el salvador for example they they rely on the federal reserve for their money they don't have their own currency even so that's not a very high level of sovereignty in that case no dollarization is complete subordination and you resist it with a bitcoin strategic reserve sovereign wealth fund right but when i wanted to support president begeli in uh launching a bitcoin back bond there was a whole reason why that didn't happen and that didn't happen because you have to work for your bond

holders and your bond holders have other power structures got it and so you know there is just degrees of and if you want to know who's playing the game best then what you do is you look up uh do a chat gbt and list all the sovereign wealth funds yes that have the highest assets under administration the best in europe is norway middle east have a bunch of sovereign wealth the best in the world is china in terms of their ability to dictate their future and then you have different degrees you know per capita and different other things but the ones that are playing the game the best that are the most free are the ones that have the largest sovereign wealth fund that doesn't mean complete and that doesn't mean that the people

inside that nation has free have freedom no so you've got your country right so yeah the island that i chose the island that i chose to live in it's illegal to take on debt so we have zero bonds and zero debt what does that what are the implications of that and by the way this doesn't scale um so you know the reason i do i found that i found that community my my realization in the world is that community doesn't scale as it gets bigger and bigger it gets weaker and weaker and weaker as the community gets smaller and smaller it has the real bond and the real and so you know we've we've leveraged community to social media but you know it it helps but the real community is still you know your small community around you of the people that are actually i have to live on

this ground are we going to turn this ground in my local area into a shithole or are we going to work together to make it better. Okay. So there's kind of that factor. So I know that all money that I contribute and pay in tax goes to not interest, not bondholders, not debt holders, which is other people's agenda. Think of the level of debt, the degree of subordination you are to power and the financial industrial complex. So America has $38 trillion of debt, it has to right now, it has to favor its bondholders over its currency so it is removing world reserve currency for its bondholders that's what's happening in america right now it does it's not autonomous it's not so it's the least sovereign country in the world it is fully subordinate to corporate power and foreign power

it's got 65 trillion dollars of foreign ownership of assets you know there's no people that think that Trump can make decisions. You know, Trump works to his power structure, but he puts the illusion of autonomy. And so because I know that all our taxpayer money goes actually to the community, I don't mind paying tax. It's contribution to the community. Is the government supporting the community? Are we having less crime or more crime? Are we having better supply chains or worse supply chains you know is people's happiness are people more happy or more depressed is there more drug addicts or are there less people that are addicted to drugs is there higher suicide rates or lower suicide rates is there more degeneracy or less degeneracy

what's the birth rate exactly the things that you want to focus on yeah you know i i i just want to i just want a bunch of happy people around me that are having children that feel accountable to you know some kind of social contract whether that be god or whether that be community or whatever is is right for you that that holds you accountable genuinely accountable to a higher purpose that isn't committing suicide isn't addicted to drugs and is having children and has some family values because, you know, and we, you know, so, you know, that's what the government's meant to be doing, but no, it serves bondholders. And so that's why I moved to an island where I thought, where is that happening? And so the less debt, the more likely it is to

happen because you're not servicing foreign interests. Underneath that, you have corporate structure. So one of the best ways to, you know, protect yourself is to use corporate structure. The degree of autonomy that you have is, firstly, the balance sheet. Does the company have hard assets or paper assets? Is the money at a bank or is the money in self-custody? What level of cash flow do you need to meet your autonomy requirements? Do you have to raise more finance to get to the next day? If you have to raise finance, you're subordinate to equity capital.

if you're if you need more debt then you're subordinate to debt capital and if you have to go public then you're going to be subordinates to the investment banks if you don't have cash flow then you you know you're going to have to look to somewhere else to get your capital if you don't have assets on your balance sheet then you're not going to be able to survive turbulence and so you know it's simple accounting at the corporate level and then at the individual level as well who do i owe money to who owns my property does the bank own it or do i own it um who do i work for if i take on what if i'm borrowing against my bitcoin who's the custodian who gets the margin call me who controls the short-term price and do i have reserved

bitcoin to meet that margin call so the further you go down into these financial weapons of mass destruction the less autonomy and less sovereignty you have and so again it's a it's a it's a spectrum and my job is in every decision you should be asking is this better or is this worse yeah uh you know i i'm not happy i i have to use an iphone with ai on it yeah but should i be running my own llm yes i know i should um am i going to do it yes eventually i'll i need to create an infrastructure do you know you ask yourself do i aim bitcoin is that a coinbase is that better than blackrock or should i have it in self-custody have i got my heart my self-custody structure yeah okay that might take me the next year to be comfortable engage in the community you know

put together a plan what's the tax consequences of me buying bitcoin in an etf and then trying to figure out. Selling that ETF, then taking the dollars, putting it in a bank, then getting the bank into an exchange, and then the exchange into buying Bitcoin, and then the Bitcoin off the exchange into self. Wow, that's a pretty complex process. So, okay, yeah, I want Bitcoin exposure, but should I try and get the right setup? Again, these are all decisions, and you'll get it wrong. i've made every mistake under the sun if i've been scammed by everybody i've gone down the wrong routes but you know in the in the end you will be sovereign if you're in your bitcoin and self-custody and then eventually you're asking well am i subject to core developers um do i

trust these core developers am i subject to miners and then you go down and understand how the ecosystem works okay how do i get more sovereign all right maybe i want to run my own nodes maybe i actually want to vote maybe i want to verify my own transactions then you're like what about miners maybe um i want to do a bit of self mining and connect to a more decentralized mining pool you know again if you try and get this right from the beginning you're going to be overwhelmed into perfection and perfection is the mother of all you know the the enemy of all advancement yeah it's just is this better yeah yeah i agree with you 100 okay i want to get to at least two more things with you before we have to um get off so one of the things you shared is that

in the beginning of your career journey is you worked in city of london and you could you have the lived experience of how the compromise is being done whether it's so that's what i'm curious on blackmail extortion threats like have you seen all that stuff and at how at at the high political or institutional levels are they really exposed to all that and they have to be exposed to it if they want to advance or can they is it possible to stay clean when they're at that level and and you know i want to know if it's real look we're seeing this with the epstein files now but it's it kind of feels like it's them over there these elites so that that elite class that we are not connected to but you've seen it from the financial side in the

city of london how does it work there is it really like that everywhere even the lower levels no the higher you want to you want to rise within these control grids the more compromised you have to be. If you want Trump's job, you've got to be very compromised. If you want to do what Thomas Massey is doing right now, you need to work for a level of power that benefits from the Epstein files being released. And if you want to take Trump's job, all of that ideology is going to go away. So if you want Thomas Massey, as he is today, to be president, impossible. Ain't going to happen. If you want to be included in the S&P 500, Michael Saylor, you know what you have to face in order to get there, because you are doing it within a Wall Street construct. If you want to

be an executive of an investment bank, then the way that compromise, and by the way, Epstein is taking the toll right now. I'll give you why I think it is. It's because I think it's part of the strategic weakening of the dollar operation. They're trying to destroy America right now and turn it into a civil war. And they're also trying to defang some of the radical ideologies and expose some of the israeli deep state the american deep state the evangelical christians that are saying you know you've got this generational thing where um they were the boomers were radicalized into this evangelical christian ideology to support zionism which is a tool for the military industrial complex if you haven't figured it out like people think like israel rules the world now

israel is subordinate to its own corrupt power structure just like america is just like uk is just like the rest of the west is and the military industrial complex has these um blackmail operations and various other things now people think it's like jeffrey epstein is like a one-off there's thousands of jeffrey epstein's there's thousands of them and his job was to demonstrate utility to the network. And the more utility you can demonstrate to the network by persuading people, not even persuading, providing services for sick people that are so rich that they've hit the level of the only thing that gives me more satisfaction is using my money to engage in worse and worse crimes against humanity to the point where i become so extreme that i'm doing

things that i don't even want to talk about right now these black these networks of jeffrey epstein okay so you want to be introduced to this person well to get to those levels how do we know that you're going to be the right type of person well first let's just start with some money so i'll invest in your company you know then once i invest in your company let's build a relationship hey by the way do you want to come and come to one of my house i got some escorts there go enjoy yourself and then you take them further and further down the chain and if you want to get to the top you've got things that are on hunter biden's laptop you've got past that we know about trump you've got emails from elon musk making orders on epstein island while pretending jeffrey epstein

was trying to get him on the island you've got howard lutnick's you know that uh uh pretending that this was some sick individual uh while he was listing the age of his children and and and going to the island and suddenly you're pride you're protected there's only one i tell you how I know this. In 2016, there was a hack of Bitfinex for 120,000 Bitcoin. And I decided that we would use our structure to help the victims. And we put together a structure, a security token that meant that it didn't need to go into bankruptcy. And we made a construct that compensated victims many times over. But we ended up a shareholder in Bitfinex. And we saw what happened to Tether. It was weaponized by taking out banks. Regulations were used in order to create a hole. That hole then led to a financial construct where lawfare was then used. Lawfare is then used in order to compromise you further and further.

and as you get compromised further and further and further you have a choice your choice is die or grow you get taken out if you don't continue to be useful to power or you corrupt further and then you end up with canter fitzgerald holding all of your bonds and now you're deep into the system and you you decide that you want to become as big as tether is you don't get to play those games without being part of power you don't get to survive and so same in same in the career in in in this finance side so the answer is i'm i'm sorry i'm very black pilled everywhere i look i see the same thing but there is an empowerment in understanding how the system works there's a disappointment in delusion and because you either ignore this shit and then you become a part of the

problem a cog in a wheel or you understand the problem so that you can boycott it and exit and i know that there are parts because i understand how the system works i know they're a part of my life that has to be a part the my money at a bank is contributing to evil point blank i know it but i still need some money at a bank to not have currency risk you know so various things is again i know that for me to have this technology i'm participating in evil but that technology hopefully makes me more productive where i can reallocate some of that energy and money into something that might actually make a difference and this comes down to i think a spiritual thing yeah i think we um this is how i think the world works um in my in my map of the

world you don't understand good and you can't understand good without evil and so evil is the polar opposite of good and you need all of it and um the world is not meant to eliminate all evil we are just presented with evil and good and then we have a choice and our choice is do i continue do i ignore or do i make an intent to do a better decision and that's a test and one day we all meet our maker and we have to explain whether we passed the test or failed the test and so i don't think you fix the world i don't think bitcoin fix the world but i think it gives you an option to exit and i think it gives you an option to boycott and i think it gives you an option to take that energy and channel your money into something that is better.

And my experience has been every time I've made that decision, I remember borrowing against my Bitcoin through Celsius, thinking it's a good idea rather than selling some Bitcoin. And I got punished for it you know um i spent the next two years of my life helping victims it was the most educational experience it made the fabric of my understanding of how the world works because i lent into it i made the wrong decision and the world gave me that test and my test was do i just become the elite and just say okay i'll sit in the background and do nothing or do i use this in order to support the other people just like my father and during the celsius bankruptcy it was um june the 12th 2022 my father passed away the same day that um

Celsius shut the doors on 650,000 people, a $25 billion Ponzi scheme. And shortly after that, when I came out and said, you know what, I just found out I'm the seventh largest creditor in this bankruptcy. Mijinsky stole money. And, you know, he owes me 45 million, I borrowed against some Bitcoin. It's not going to change my life. But I got message after message from people that had put their entire life savings into this thing. I met people that committed suicide because they couldn't face their wife and tell them they'd lost their whole lifetime savings. I met people that moved country because they couldn't afford to live. And they had to figure out how to because they thought the money was about to come back. And they were waiting week after week thinking

is coming is coming um they they couldn't face the reality of what had happened to them i had pensioner after pensioner that needed to come out of retirement because mizinski told them put everything here put your entire they emptied out their 401k bought a stable coin and lent the whole thing thinking that they were getting a safe yield mizinski went and i had a pensioner that went to miami looked mizinski in the face and said this is everything i've got i need this money is it safe to do this he didn't say this is a risky hedge fund you know you should only put a small allocation into this he said put it all in do everything and um you know uh there was

there were people that reminded me of my father my father passed away on that day and i said I got to continue this mission. I got to continue this work and help people understand what happened to their money. And so for two years, I read 4,000 court documents. I publicly described everything. I participated in the court process. I managed to get the judge not to sell people's Bitcoin. In FTX, they sold all the Bitcoin. Managed to get it out of bankruptcy so they didn't steal all the upside of the Bitcoin and discovered two years of the sheer corruption that was involved in the bankruptcy process. And I think it was the vital training that kind of led to, you know, the next phase of understanding and being involved in anti-war advocacy.

Thank you so much for sharing what you shared. Do you think that the reason Daniel Leon is not with the same verdict as mashinsky is because of his subordination to powers in israel like to me it's just my mind i cannot comprehend how this guy can be now free and just doing his next startup yeah with everything that has happened what do you think why is that so um this is when i really first discovered um you know this power structure and dynamic around the jurisdiction of israel you Firstly, you expose power, and the first thing Alex Mishinsky's wife did is weaponized anti-Semitism and said that I'm anti-Semitic. That's the first thing you find out that happens.

Then I looked into the real structure. It turns out that there was a back office in Israel, in Celsius. The co-founder, Daniel Leone, has now got an AI startup with the Prime Minister's Office of Israel. He didn't go to prison. He was in Israel. His wife is effectively propaganda for the IDF and social media. I looked into one of the hacks that happened. It was through a company called Bankordal.

And Bankordal, the shareholders were the niece and nephew of Benjamin Netanyahu. Victim's money was used to make an acquisition of a company called GK8, which is a custody service located in Israel. And the only person... It has managed to be acquired a second time after it lost money. Like, miraculously, it's a success story. You know, there are no miracles in that industry. That doesn't happen just because, you know, God loves them.

So for people to understand. And the Banalzi family is behind Bankordao. Banalzi is the cousin of Netanyahu. Okay, thank you for that. I mean, Sara Netanyahu, which is Netanyahu's wife, her brother, I think his name is Amatia Ben-Atsi. He's an investor in many companies in Israel, including Bank Ordao. And his children, the boy and the girl, they're both in Bank Ordao. So they're more or less my age.

Interesting. And so they're protected. this is what I'm thinking of I'm looking at Daniel Leon I'm looking at the whole case I'm looking at how one person only gets a verdict of 12 years in prison

and the other one has nothing and he's a co-founder and I'm searching him in the Israeli media and news he's celebrated as this tech entrepreneur but what about the accountability what about the how come he's walking free

and the other one is in jail so you know yeah uh each one of those suicides each one of those ruin of life each one of those pensioners where their whole life was destroyed you did that daniel leone um and you need to be accountable to that but you won't be because you have got your shelter um that's what i feel yeah and you know alex mizinski went down for 12 years but there was a whole power structure behind him as well of course and um so you know this was uh really the the kind of the i one of the major another experience going through a two-year bankruptcy process and going i kind of go all in at each stage and it kind of builds your building it adds to your building blocks and so

of course we could go down a million different routes from here we have to do another part if you will allow me because i have so many questions from the audience that they would like to get your answers but we don't have time for it now so at a later point I would love to do another part I will you know just take you to one more direction which is I think important to some of my audience and I want to like be responsible and sensitive and apologize in advance if this is going to trigger some people because if you're like me Jewish and Israeli but you are still connected to your national or religious identity in some way then it may be hard for you to hear how things are working in and around israel and one of the things you know one of the things i

really um i really found fascinating is that a lot of the things you said around october 7th or the Iran 12 days war things that are related to Israel and the Middle East specifically were very similar to the things I were saying but obviously I do not have your background and and experience in terms of following the money and bringing the receipts from that side I was saying all that stuff from a very first of all intuitive place but secondly my lived experience and the evidence that I was collecting from the ground, you know, and I also served in the IDF, so I had a very personal experience of being there, seeing how things work, knowing how the system

is supposed to work versus how it was actually operating on October 7th. I actually did a lot of documenting and reporting about that specific incident because I had so much experience to talk about it and after I've done that I've been called names and people you know they can't call me an anti-semite so they call me a self-hating Jew there's there's such a thing but what I find really interesting is when when I look at Zionism our system indoctrinates you to conflate Zionism with patriotism and when you're educated when you're a child and a teenager you have this environment that's teaching you that being a Zionist is really being a patriot and being a good person and so most of the people in Israel they do

not understand that Zionism is a political movement and what the aim of that movement is and they haven't gone back in history to source its origins and why it operates the way it is And what kind of power is it subordinate to? And so for me growing up, I had this cognitive dissonance with being like lefty, a left wing person wanting peace with the Arabs in Palestine. And at the same time, understanding that there is such a thing as an occupation of another, you know, other other people like you're being a lefty. And you want to love your country and be a good patriot and be a Zionist. But how can you be both? How can you both, you know, be a left wing and want to respect other people's right to exist?

And you don't want to control them. You want them to have their own autonomy. But at the same time, you're being told that you have to be a good boy or good girl and be a good Zionist. And so I could never settle the two. And the propaganda in Israel is so powerful. So when I came out and spoke about October 7th, I kind of understood how powerful the powers that are operating within Israel are, because even though I had known about some of the past history with the Yom Kippur War 50 years earlier to October 7th, this time I saw it with my own eyes, how the government or the security apparatus had enabled something like this to happen. And that shook me to the ground because I knew without a shadow of a doubt that this was enabled because I, from my experience, this is not supposed to happen. And I have all the receipts for that. And then I see someone like you that then goes to the other side and show, and obviously everything that, sorry that I'm a little bit mixed up. But what I'm seeing is that after October 7th, the whole the whole thing that unfolded was predictable in my eyes.

I said that this was enabled just so that we can go into Gaza and finish what we started because Gaza was becoming a liability and that they just want to create a new Middle East kind of order with foreign powers to come back again and negotiate how the region is going to look like. And Israel is a very important strategic asset in that negotiation. So this had to happen at one point. And now is the time for it to happen. And people were sacrificed on both sides. They have no care for human lives. And then you start the anti-Semitism card, you know, just like you said that you were weaponized personally by that lady telling you straight away that you're an anti-Semite

if you're starting to criticize the government of Israel. And then it becomes a global thing. and everyone's anti-Semite and then it's a whole problem and then you have all these false flag operations that are happening around the world that are justifying even more that there's anti-Semitism and I'm not saying that there isn't there is but it's just being sparked and it's being created at a certain time to to serve a certain goal and then you get the whole world saying oh it's because the Zionism are are the evil of the world and and Israel and and the Jewish people are controlling the world. And, you know, and there, there you have it, you kind of

achieved something, which I don't understand why they do it. I do, from my lived experience, it is not possible for Israel to control the world, or Zionism to control the world. Yes, they have a lot of power. And yes, I am the first one to criticize the place where I'm coming from. But there is such a level of degeneracy and mediocrity in Israel and in Zionism that there is no way that that small cabal can manage the world or control the world. It just doesn't work that way. That's why your theory of this interwoven complex of relationship between the three different complexes with different facets of power operating differently in Israel and in other places in the Middle East and in the world makes so much more sense for me than that theory of, you know, the Jews and the Zionists just control the world. So I'm sorry that that was a long rant, but I kind of wanted to compare notes with you on that. yeah we could almost do a whole podcast on that i know and um and we probably should uh why not

sure sure but uh let me so cognitive dissidence is is is the right word so firstly you have to understand how the world really works like netanyahu has a job and his job isn't to work for israel even though most people think it is he might as well work for lockheed martin general dynamic and various other power structures and the israeli military industrial complex yeah so you know he he has a power structure and people think that the president or the prime minister is in charge they're not in charge their job is a battering ram for power their job is to do what power that who they work for is telling them to do and they have to find an acceptable way of presenting that to the public facing people so trump doesn't rule

america trump's job is to repackage massive policy into MAGA and make people think this is nationalistic in the interest of the average american that's his job in the meantime who does he work for he works mainly for the financial industrial complex who strategically is a global transnational capital and no it's not israel it's and israel doesn't run the federal reserve there is transnational capital is the countries that use their resources to build sovereign wealth that partner with a central banking structure which is the bank for international settlements the bank for international settlements is um the higher the gdp of your country the bigger shareholder you become and so the largest node is the federal reserve so then you have a plausible

deniability story right the federal reserve is the most important node in the bank for international settlements now if you want to create a blame shift story you say the bank for international settlements that's the brits and the europeans and trump is taking on the legacy banking structure that's a narrative okay the federal reserve is the most important node in the bank for international settlements who is who owns the federal reserve and then we'll get back to how it comes to israel the banks so the shareholders of the federal reserve are the banks what are the banks they're public companies what are public companies they're owned by the asset managers as the largest shareholders who are the asset managers well the largest pools of capital

like blackrock straight street and vanguard and a bunch of foreign sovereign wealth funds and so capital at the end of the day is you got to look at the shareholder class who are the shareholders in those well legacy power you know this is where you go down and you realize that there's wealthy families and they have trust structures via cayman islands and all of these trust structures so legacy power was the rothschild dynasty a very powerful force yes but we're not in the 19th century anymore this is in the 18th and 19th century there is remnants of that power but they represented european power european power has been strategically weakened there was with the rise of the american empire a whole rockefeller and jp morgan and they connected

with european power in order to manage this transition that built wealth in within the u.s military industrial complex within the technical industrial complex and so you have shifts in power and relative power based upon your wealth some of them ended up with a bunch of gold others ended up with a bunch of debt. So you have this network of wealth that is the shareholder class, and they are able to influence their holdings through their shareholdings and board positions. But then what happened? We had globalism. What did globalism lead to? The rise of China, the rise of India, the rise of other powers, the rise of sovereign wealth fund in the middle east and so because the middle east some countries were able to utilize their oil

they were able to build a sovereign wealth fund and partner with the financial industrial complex other countries they gain their power by being connected to the military industrial complex israel went through that transition it was originally a land where jewish people muslim people and christians lived in relative peace there was an ottoman empire there's 3 000 years of history but none of that's relevant that's narrative you know there were people on that land and jews muslims and christians didn't really hate each other but then you had foreign interference from the british empire you had turkish interference from an ottoman empire you had power dynamics and you had financial families like the Rothschilds that back certain factions

of power. There were wars and there were terrorist groups that received weapons. They were called Haganah. They became the IDF. They also were narratived into an ideology because you don't recruit an army a power doesn't recruit an army of like look at right now there's no ideology in uk and the the british army is useless it's just technology and military and and and manufacturing but there's no brit that wants to ideologically fight for its country and ukraine and all this stuff because you need you need ideology to recruit power and religious ideology was the most important power you know the original europeans that came to america they were doing a genocide and ethnic cleansing because they thought that they were the chosen christians

and they were escaping religious persecution and you know and and therefore they were okay genociding and ethnically cleansing um the native americans for power and those power were you know the what the the wealthy and rich that were building everything that gave the american empire its later power all right so you had you know jews christians and muslims in palestine that was occupied by the british empire after the ottoman empire and you had a narrative and you had power that were pulling the strings and power was funding militia groups creating false flags and creating an environment that led to wars those wars were profitable to power there were people that would gain financial interest that would gain power it became an

outpost for power to have a jurisdiction in order to engage in activities that couldn't be done in other countries and israel effectively became an outpost for the u.s military industrial complex and then there were power within america there is just like there's an italian mafia there's a jewish mafia they're in new york and that jewish mafia is utilizing its power to utilize israel in order to get away with it any crimes against humanity wrap it up in jurisdictional arbitrage just like daniel leone did and utilize that power it needs to become useful to power what utility does it do? Well, maybe it becomes a testing ground for weapons. Maybe it becomes a testing ground for managing the surveillance state and an occupation. Maybe there are companies within

Israel that can profit from that, gain access to Pentagon budgets, take that money, test technology that couldn't be tested in America, test it in Israel, train and fund militia groups, fuel religious tensions by funding Western-backed proxies like ISIS and Al-Qaeda, have infiltration of Turkey, of Iran, of Saudi Arabia, of all these different countries, and use Israel and use Iran and use Turkey and use Saudi and use all these countries as a divide and conquer mission so that the American empire can grow. that money then gets recycled the debt remains with the american people every war creates trillions of dollars of revenue you have plausible deniability you can at every stage say it wasn't

us it was them but then you also radicalize people you you radicalized muslims by manufacturing wars and creating false flag operations which 9-11 was you then radicalized jews into thinking that you know that that whatever you know they're fighting for their survival and then you radicalize evangelical christians in america to create the religious justification for the war thinking you're defending democracy and now you've got a radicalized christian group a radicalized muslim group and a radicalized jewish group that are all useful idiots to power mix them all up shake it all up and you can destabilize the middle east so that they can't build sovereign wealth you can't you are forced onto the petrodollar you assassinate king faisal or anything like that that

tries to resist power you then create a shadow government called safari club which works for cia massad mi6 and then you funnel all the money back into propping up the u.s stock market and the israeli stock market the average people end up with the debt you privatize all the all the companies put them on the stock market and then you prop up the dollar you prop up the petrodollars so at the power level that's what's happening at the government level they work for power they don't work for the people their job is to put an acceptable narrative to get population growth recruit an army make them think that everything they're doing is is is noble deserve justified spiritual religious when really you're doing incredible evil activities for power without

knowing who you work for it's the concept of a useful idiot most people don't know who they work for you know most people have no idea because this is all done by a plausible deniability shadow funding structures there are a bunch of people that believe that they are fighting a resistance but what's the iranian model you know the iranian and israel conflict made trillions of dollars for the u.s and israeli military industrial complex it also created a shadow mafia sanctioned uh mafia network where the people in power in iran benefit from strategic tension now most people think they're resisting they are useful idiots for power others think that they're part of some um you know radicalized islamist state thing useful idiots for power

got nothing to do with islam you know these are cia operatives you saw that look at jilani the the the person that used to head up isis is now the head of syria meeting in the white house and syria uh is basically funded by you know gc the gulf corporation council in turkish interest now because he used to work for isis which is connected to cover israeli you know massad operations people thinks he works for israel but no he works for turkey in the gcc now all all this to say is that i could go on forever and i do go on every week i cover this what's really happening by following the money all this to say is that the most useful power is divide and conquer and division is always the mechanism that power profits from and those you know netanyahu's

just a middle person he's an indispensable asset he can be replaced he can be assassinated he can be regime changed if he doesn't do what the military industrial complex want him to do and there was a mission which is get rid of the palestinians here's your job description how do you do it well october the 7th was very useful to try and get rid of the palestinians and so you allow october the 7th to happen and if you don't think the false flags uh you know done for military profits then you don't know how the world really works because all of those wars in the middle east made someone trillions of dollars where's the the debt is the american person the value is in the u.s stock market and there are a bunch of corruption in the middle

that all got their cut for being useful to power and so netanyahu doesn't work for the israeli people i mean if you really think about it zionism and israel as an ideology is probably the worst thing that could ever happen to the jewish people from my perspective because it's just population growth for power where you join the idf and then you have to engage in covert operations the ethnic cleansing um and resort you know acquisition of resources via the israelian u.s military industrial complex to divide and conquer effectively you're just being used for power So I've been part of it. I was in the IDF. I saw with my own eyes what wars are for and how it's working. And I'm the living experience of that thing. It's not worth it for anyone. But when you propagandize people so well, you can use them. And yes, Zionism and the project called the State of Israel, which I am part of and it is my home and I will return there to my family and friends.

It doesn't make me love the place less by saying it, but it is a very bad experiment. It is a very bad project. And I believe that my grandparents were manipulated and duped to be Zionists and to want to fight for that country and to build it. and to I'm not saying that the Jewish people don't need a place or don't need protection but it's just that that project benefit on the backs of millions of people that don't even know that they are being played the only reason that the brand of Zionism effectively turned into what I call a toxic asset is because power decided to show people what it was and so the ethnic cleansing that happened to the palestinians and the crimes against humanity and the attempted but failed genocide um from my perspective i know that these might be triggering words sorry uh for your

audience but i believe that that's what was meant to happen because netanyahu had a job description and he failed with that job description um but it's because the military industrial complex which is who he worked for was actually having a power struggle with the financial industrial complex and the financial industrial complex wants regional stability in the middle east why because they're taking the tactics that they used in the middle east and the global south and asia and they're bringing it back home to america right now because they want to usher in a police and surveillance state so they need civil unrest in america in uk in europe they're taking the same tactics and this is only one percent of it if you think in the uk and america and in the west

is bad right now that quote-unquote invasion was effectively people that are is the their countries were destroyed to prop up this dollar-based system and they wanted some opportunities so they ended up in america and now they've escaped their country probably at the time when their country is going to go through growth because the financial industrial complex is dumping the dollar right now and dumping America in partnership with the sovereign wealth funds

propped up by oil purchases of China to build this AI and surveillance police state that we're all building and participating in right now. And so transnational capital decided that it needs to purge some of its assets. and so there was a power struggle between the military industrial complex which was the greater israel project to destabilize the region and the financial industrial complex that partnered with the sovereign wealth funds that said we need regional stability and it's only because china

rose that the american military had to negotiate via the financial industrial complex with china because China's providing all the revenue with its manufacturing base for those sovereign wealth funds by buying oil. That gave them more power and the financial industrial complex decided it's time to reset the order because we burdened the American,

the West with all the debt and now we're asset stripping the West. And now we're just going to use them as the laboratory of Palantir technology that was tested in Gaza, that was tested in the West Bank. and so all the beta tests that were put on the global south are now coming home and they're only going to give you one percent of it people are freaking out right now they're going mentally

insane in the west not having children higher suicide rates highest uh drug addictions highest rates or lowest birth rates um highest mental illness like degeneracy um more only fans prostitution men that are addicted to pornography and can't have children technology to destroy the family base massive gambling crypto scamming like poly market prediction market um all rampant degeneracy yeah because they're experiencing one percent of what the U.S. military-industrial complex did to the rest of the global South. And now they're reallocating their profit centers. And so, you know, Netanyahu didn't meet his job description.

And now he's trying to prove his utility by acquiring more land so that Western financial-industrial complex can negotiate with the Gulf sovereign wealth funds and the BRICS countries that are now a rising power. And now the Middle East will most likely end up in regional stability, because they managed to find a financial transaction that was more profitable than the death and destruction. And that's why the dollar is weakening right now. Because transnational capital is weakening the dollar to reset the world order. Yeah. We have to do another episode just about that, because there's so much more to dig here. But your prediction is that Israel and maybe Palestine are going to be controlled by the GCC going forward? Yeah, I think what we're witnessing right now, at the moment, we're on off with U.S. war with Iran. Netanyahu is visiting U.S. right now. The narrative is that Netanyahu rules the world. He's middle management. He's a dispensable asset. of course and when you go to me so the narrative is that if you meet all right he rules the world so he's visited trump eight times when you are a world leader and everything's going the way you

want it you don't go and visit another world leader oh yeah you have to visit it's like going to the principal's office yeah you have to visit eight times because things ain't going the way you want and you have to try and fix the thing that's not going the way you want it to go but people create this whole narrative i wrote a blog called do jews rule the world that goes through all the power dynamics and and just trying to put people into realism look all this to say we could we could we should go deeper these are all interesting topics and understanding how the world works but uh iran is effectively economically dependent upon china right now israel has been turned into a prior state hated by the rest of the world in many respects that's a generational thing

and i think that both palestine and israel are going to be vassalized economically into the gcc while iran becomes a dependency and i think iran has shed all its proxies already and essentially at this stage there is a vision for the region and that vision is set by trans national capital, which is China, the sovereign wealth funds, and the US financial industrial complex. They want peace in the Middle East to make more money. And so that's my prediction for what happens over the next five years. And quite frankly, I prefer that to the military ruling the region, even though I think it's unjust, but I can shout all I want. I just follow the money and the money says, this ain't going to be justice, but it's going to be better than what it was

before. And so, you know, I look forward to, I believe the Middle East will be the highest growth region in the next decades ahead. I think China is on track to become a superior economic power than america i think the west is being asset stripped um the governments are fully subordinate to power and um i think the global south is going to have its opportunity to rise but your proximity to america i.e europe latin and central america are where the military is going to make up for lost profit sadly and so they want to profit from war the closer you are to the western hemisphere while their assets dripping and creating civil unrest in order to usher in this technocratic police and surveillance state and so sadly think well you could say sadly

but i i believe that again spiritual money means that there are consequences to what's been inflicted on the world and that has to come home to roost by the real power which i believe is divine and these are tests and how we react to these things do we do good with it do we do bad with it do we speak truth even when it hurts us you know and that's our test and often we have to speak truth to things that are very destructive and very harmful to our self-interest yeah but i think that's the test and then you have to allocate your money and decide am i going to be a part of this or am i going to be able to exit it and so in the end for me bitcoin has become a mission of i think bitcoin in custody has been co-opted by power and we don't take down the

system but we do get to exit from the system and become sovereign ourself because elites want bitcoin in self-custody but they want you to custody it and they want you in debt borrowing against it and becoming a gamb a degenerate altcoin gambler that's what they want so you just need to do the opposite of what they want you're a living example of what you were saying because even if it's not in your best interest, you still speak the truth. And the way you have taken your life's mission and purpose and you're just in service to the community

and to humanity by doing what you're doing. So I'm wrapping up this part one of us speaking because I'm looking forward to the next opportunity where we can sit down and I can pick your brain even more and ask you all the audience questions I have. But I give you a huge virtual hug and big, big thank you for everything you do. I think you are amazing and thank you for doing what you're doing. And I look forward to staying in touch and doing it again.

Yeah, no problem. The challenge is people can't get nuance. They really want, we've been indoctrinated, particularly in the West, in order to pick a team and just go with our team no matter what happens. The reality is that countries can be simultaneously enemies and friends at the same time in different areas. And geopolitics doesn't work like humans. You know, and, you know, there are times when Iran and Israel is working together. You can see that in Iran-Contra affair.

They benefit from intelligence sharing in certain things. But here's the thing. The boogie monster is never how the world really works. everything in media is a function of who controls that media and what do they want you to believe there's no independent media algorithms are what they need you to be radicalized into in in this new world and everything a politician says is he is the complete opposite of reality the only truth even in the epstein files you've got a bunch of emails but the truth is the financial transactions and you're not going to get those because that incriminates the people that actually control

the epstein files and it's not trump and it's not the department of justice i can ensure you it's greater powers that are still using it so we'll continue in in another but it's in the nuanced conversations is what i wanted to say that if you find yourself tribal you're probably a useful idiot um because everyone when you tell the truth everyone hates you look i'm i've been i'm very emotionally connected to the palestinian cause but am i going to continue lying about things because it helps the cause no i all all we can do is is help people understand the nuance because other people are weaponizing the cause and if you give energy if you give energy to those that are weaponizing the cause then you're continuing the problem and you're not helping

solve the problem and in and in doing that everyone will hate you you know i guarantee you every side because we're not if we don't you know it is going to hate us from this conversation but who cares like who cares exactly who cares i i always say i'm on team human i don't give a fuck about all this left right and and that's what bitcoin was it was f you money in the end of the day my company is free i'm free and uh you know my country is as free as it can be so uh that that's what allows me to talk to this stuff and i will never commit suicide in case i don't come back by the way somebody would take me out if they did i don't think i'm that important i don't think i'm that important but i'm definitely having conversations so if uh if i disappear it's

not because i commit suicide yeah same here i learned so much from you so keep going please you're doing amazing work thank you okay thank you simon people should follow you i will tell you on x on nostr you are not very active but you have an account and the simondickston.com website everything is there and the youtube channel is magnificent so you can follow simon and all of these channels and there's a newsletter free new i mean website you can sign up and and get his stuff also by email so did i cover everything yeah and i'm going to be promoting my podcast now as well so apple and spotify as well just putting simon apple and spotify simon dixon hard talk bitcoin hard talk you rebranded i end up talking five percent about

bitcoin because it's a you know a solution yeah everything else so it's simon dixon hard talk go follow the podcast on apple and and spotify thank you so much we're gonna do this again hopefully next time also in in real life so in person that would be a lot of fun thank you so much simon thank you thanks for being with us please take a minute to give this episode a like a comment and subscribe or follow and please share it with your friends so they can also get value and choose to take some positive action in their lives. Till next time!