You're Wrong About - Balloonfest ‘86! with Harmony Colangelo

Episode Date: July 11, 2024

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If you've never driven into or out of a major city late at night while listening to Bad Out of Hell, then like, you gotta do it. Welcome to You're Wrong About. I'm Sarah Marshall and today we are talking about Cleveland's Balloon Fest of 1986 with Harmony Calangelo. Harmony was last with us for an episode about Tiny Tim and today we are tiptoeing through the tulips again to talk about what it means when a city tries to jump start its renaissance by releasing more balloons than the human brain can conceive of. And perhaps even more importantly, what happens to all those balloons?

This is a conversation about balloons, balloon-related folly, but also about what it's like to love and defend a city, and also to love a city not in spite of its flaws, but in a way where its flaws and its problems make you love it more because you want to try and help it be a better place. And that is a conversation that's close to my heart as a Portlander. So in this patchwork country made of struggling cities, here is a conversation between two girls from two cities, but boy, are there a lot of other ones. And I

bet you will hear one or two things that feel very familiar to you if you have your own struggling city that you love. This was a really lovely episode to record with Harmony who you can also listen to on This Ends at Prom, the podcast that she co-hosts with her wife, BJ Calangelo. It is required listening, especially in the summertime. It's focused on teenage girl-centric cinema, need I say more. And I just loved getting to think out loud with her

about what it feels like to belong to a city and for a city to belong to you. And the ways that not just cities but people try to reinvent themselves and what it means when we stop trying to run away from what we might be afraid we are. If you like these episodes, if you're looking for more, we do have bonus content on Patreon and Apple Plus subscriptions for you. We just finished our Britney Spears saga with Eve Lindley, which I believe is about six hours long in total. So if you have a road trip coming up, I recommend it. Thank

you so much for listening to this tale with us. Thank you for getting through the summer with us. Thank you for being learn about America's Folly. Today we get to do a folly that involves so many balloons, and we're talking about it with Harmony Calangelo. Hello. Hello, Sarah. You are our foremost Tiny Tim expert on the show. We had you on not long ago in an episode that I loved seeing the response to among

people who knew there had to be something interesting about the person who sang tiptoe through the tulips, but didn't know what. And I feel like with with that episode and now our conversation today, we're establishing you with a certain type of beat. But I wonder what name you would give to it. Oh, I have into the faintest, but it sure is just a really downtrodden trashy beat, isn't it? It's like something that seems whimsical on the surface, but then with every subsequent inch, you learn more about just the sadness in which we all live, I guess. Yeah, that's the human condition.

Right. You're on the human condition beat. Somebody actually wrote in to suggest this idea and people suggest all kinds of ideas for the show all the time. And many of them are great, but just not the kind of thing that I feel like this is the right show for or that I'm the right co-host to talk about. But let me read you an email that I got. Subject, Balloonfest1986. Heather Clinkhammer writes, I really hope you do a story on the strange disaster that was Balloonfest1986. A rescue called off, airports and roads closed, weather and ecological issues, the aspirations of a struggling city dashed and poor Canada ended up with thousands of deflated

balloons. Why yes, they did. This is funny to me somehow. It's like the role of Canada through the ages to accept our deflated balloons. Balloonfest is just technically an international incident, you know? It's like a friendlier Three Mile Island in a way. Yeah. Yeah. And I just loved getting that email because I was like, that is the perfect topic. Like, it's the porridge that Goldilocks ate. And you had brought this up to me before. Like, I know that you are the person I learned about this from, or you and BJ anyway.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. The day I was getting a tattoo of Balloonfest, like Sarah goes, hey, do you want to do an episode on Balloonfest? And I go, Sarah, I need you to know something about what I'm doing right now. I love Balloonfest. I'm fascinated by Balloonfest. It is one of the most Cleveland events that I can imagine. Is it a good place to start by asking, what is Cleveland? Where should we begin? Mm hmm. So, OK, Sarah, I'm sure that you, that I can imagine. Is it a good place to start by asking, what is Cleveland?

Where should we begin? Mm hmm. So, OK, Sarah, I'm sure that you, as someone who hasn't been to Cleveland, understand that Cleveland is routinely the butt of the joke in America. This and like Detroit are pretty much the two that everyone punches down at all the time. Right. Yeah. Wisconsin is thanking its lucky stars that it has neighbors more famous for screwing up cities than it is. Well, going all the way back to Cleveland, which used to be a big deal when a lot of different things in America were a big deal. I don't think Portland ever used to be a big deal. I don't know. It's got a cultural footprint that people appreciate.

Yeah, we're as big as we've ever been. We invented beer that tastes like things it shouldn't. Yeah, it's delicious. Right, so in the 1800s, Cleveland was very attractive and very enticing for big businesses who want to set up some American industry because there was large deposits of iron and coal near the Cuyahoga River. The Cuyahoga River is very, very important to Cleveland for many, many reasons. Because it was a very important waterway for industry, and it also kind of started the reputation of Cleveland being a disgusting

mistake on the lake. Oh, yeah, that's mean. I mean, if say it with enjoyment then I get that but yeah, I don't know. If you're not from Cleveland, you can't say mistake on the lake. That's our term. As with all things, seems right. Right. So in 1968, the Cuyahoga River catches on fire for the first time. Mmm, yes. Over the next hundred years, it would do so 11 more times. I remember learning about this from friends from Cleveland and grad school and being like, wow, that is the kind of thing that you would expect a city to only have happened to at once.

But again, I have to feel like maybe there were larger forces at fault here. Yeah. I mean, unfortunately, things like steel production and coal are not exactly, you know, good for the environment. They were just casually dumping things in the river so it would get washed down the stream and they wouldn't have to worry about it anymore. And as a result, I believe I remember reading once that the Cuyahoga River at its worst was not a city that one would drown in, but that one would like decay in.

So we were just talking the other day because I was like, harmony, I couldn't sleep the other night and I was on Wikipedia for three hours. You want to hear about it? You're like, I guess. And I was like, OK, great. Always. There's this ecological disaster I had never heard of before, and I've just been needing to tell everyone about where basically in the early 70s, there was a company manufacturing various chemical products for kind of household use basically, that created dioxin as a byproduct. product. Dioxin is the active ingredient in Agent Orange. And they were supposed to incinerate it but it was more expensive than they wanted apparently. And so they contracted disposing it to a company who contracted to quote Eve Lindley in the Crossroads episode, just some guy to dispose of several truckloads of dioxin. And for reasons that I think maybe have been lost to time, but like we don't know how much he knew or how much he was told,

but basically he decided to mix it with a bunch of used oil, which was his main business was disposing of like used motor oil. And then he had kind of come up with this method where he would spray the oil onto like dirt roads or Like a paddock at a stables to keep dust down. Mm-hmm And so basically by the mid 80s after a ventral investigation from the EPA

The entire town of Times Beach, Missouri was just evacuated and no one could live there or go there for 15 years Mm-hmm. So many poisoned people Missouri was just evacuated and no one could live there or go there for 15 years. So many poisoned people. Yeah. And as with, I think, the story many of us learned by reading Silent Spring, the animal sickness and death was the first clue of danger to humans. And talking about Cleveland and the kind of industry that we were getting up to in mid-Sanctuary America and the scientific advances we had made during

and as a result of World War I, that we then took several decades to appreciate any consequences of. It does feel like there's this sort of, kind of a gap or something in terms of like, and not that we're not still in it now, or not that we ever left it really, of scientific and industrial advancement

outpacing our ability or our willingness to regulate by light years. Oh, definitely. Again, it's like, yeah, that is a lot of times for a river to catch fire, but it feels like, I don't know, that like the people of Cleveland or any place where that happens deserve a reputation as like people whose fault it wasn't, right? Because it's actually the fault of a pretty small number of people when that happens. Right. So, infamously, the biggest fire during all of this, of which, you know, it wasn't the citizens' fault. This was just another facet of the day. The 1952 fire. That one was very, very big. If you look up the Cuyahoga River catching on fire, that is the first result you will get back.

Firefighters on a bridge trying to put out a flaming river as it engulfs ships. Is the river just very full of flammable things? What's going on there? Yes, there's a lot of oil and grease and things that probably should have been disposed of other ways. And it all floats the top. Like you ever go to a gas station and you can see like the beautiful colorful Pools of gas that just sit on top of the pavement. Mm-hmm. Yeah, beautiful rainbow gas. Yeah, right. It looks nice Flammable things are often very pretty Exactly. So like that's the part that's on the top of the water. Yep. What a great science lesson

Yes, the final time and I say final in quotes, because in like 2019, I believe, the river caught on fire, but that wasn't our fault. There was like a drainage thing that something leaked into while already on fire that was, we cleaned up the river by then. It wasn't the citizens or even like capitalism's fault that time. That was just a fluke accident.

That was just for an nostalgic sake. We love a callback. Ah, it's a that time. That was just a fluke accident. That was just for nostalgia's sake. We love a callback. Ah, surprise. In 1969, the river catches on fire and local news doesn't even really report on it because they're like, yeah, whatever, this happens. OK, fine. They put out the fire so quickly that there are no known photographs of the incident. I'm talking like 20 minutes like they had it down. However, this incident was famous because there was wind

that was caught by other parts of the country of what the fuck? Why is this river catching on fire? Yeah. And it is like I bet if you're in a city that has other problems, you can be like, well, at least we haven't caught a river on fire. Yeah. I mean, it's priorities. That's really what I think most cities love to do with Cleveland is like, we're better than Cleveland. You know, that's that's one of the jokes that people like to make.

Cleveland is generally like the archetype of the downtrodden dirty city by most American pop culture. I think the lazy cliche for Americans historically has been Detroit is the city you fear and Cleveland is the city you pity. Yeah. So this incident, which was not a big deal at the time for context, the 52 fire caused about one point five million dollars worth of damage. The one in 69 was only fifty thousand. So this event ends up getting covered in Time magazine. Fire of the year. And they end up using a photo of the 1952 fire.

Oh, they false advertised this fire as being far more disastrous than it was. Of course. When I think of Time magazine handling something badly, I think of obvious unchecked sexism and racism and internalized bias among writers. I don't think of actual misrepresentation of photos. Mm hmm. So here's where Cleveland kind of steps up and is kind of great. Two years earlier, we elected this guy, Carl Stokes.

Dude's the man. He is one of the best mayors Cleveland ever had. His big legacy is he set in motion all the things that cleaned up the Cuyahoga River. He appeared before the Senate and said, we have the kind of

air and water pollution problems in this city that are every bit as dangerous for the health and safety of our citizens as any intercontinental ballistic missiles that are so dramatically poised 5,000 miles from our country. His whole stance was essentially like as the first black mayor of a major U.S. city. He was like, this is going to negatively impact people who can't afford to move out of the suburbs. This is going to impact people who have industry set up in their neighborhoods because it's easier to do it and it will harm all of them. He succeeds with this and a joint effort of sit in that would become Earth Day. This causes Richard Nixon to establish the EPA. That's why they got to evacuate that town in Missouri. Yes. So because of pollution, the Cuyahoga River does not catch on fire again.

That's great. Unfortunately, this is 1969. The 1970s are very, very hard to working class industrial cities like Cleveland, as all of our jobs and our industry is taken away. When I was a kid and just kind of learning about America through NPR terminology that people used without explaining, I was like, I guess the term rest belt is like neutral because they have the rest industry there. It took me a long time to work out as with many obvious things that it it was like implying that it was an industrial area that had fallen into decay. I mean, is that correct? And I was just like, well, I like rust. It's a pretty color. Exactly. I use the phrase that there's rust in my blood because I was born and raised

in Northeast Ohio. But I will say that the 70s and 80s were not a kind time to this city. For example, I will say that the city has tried to rehab its image, but it's really, really hard to do when steel workers and like actual manpower is primarily what your city is based on and they're all losing their jobs. The automotive industry, obviously, in Cleveland and Detroit collapsed. And I think I didn't associate Ohio so strongly with the automotive industry because it's just, yeah, I mean, it's not known for it as much as like Detroit is, because that was obviously like the Motor City.

But like it exists throughout like that entire part of the country, or at least it did at one point. Right. So if your city was dirty, but you've been cleaning it up and you helped found the EPA, if your city had industry, but it's losing industry, what is your city known for? What kind of is there? What is your cultural identity? Cleveland did have some significant musical exports

in the 70s. It broke David Bowie and Rush into America. Cleveland International Records is what produced Bad Out of Hell. Wow. One of the biggest albums of all time. Cleveland had some stuff going on. If you've never driven into or out of a major city late at night while listening to

Bad Out of Hell, then like you got to do it. God, it's the best, right? Ah, that's the cultural identity of Cleveland that I love very, very much. And also in a very hilarious morbid way. Here's here's a list of events that could probably be you're wrong about episodes on their own. So there's Tencent Beer Night in which at a baseball game, they decided to be nostalgic. Yeah, always good. And sell beers for ten cents a piece.

But people were only allowed to get six beers. And I bet that they complied after their six beer. They're like, OK, thank you for cutting me off. That's nice of you. Well, like they could only get six per purchase. So they were going back many, many, many, many times to get more and more beer. Oh boy. I know that like there are a lot of implications

but one of my first thoughts is just urinal capacity. Oh, at a ballpark? Oh, it's heinous. Oh. At old Jacobs field? No, there's no way that's good. What was the inevitable outcome? Oh, many fights. The baseball teams needed to retreat to their dugouts with bats and defend themselves.

Like, it's a hilarious tragedy that is retold in the cynical Christmas classic, in quotes, Uncle Nick starring Brian Pussain. Hmm, nice. So we get that. That's fun. Cleveland gets a reputation in the 70s as bomb city USA because with poverty comes, of course, organized crime, you know, but in this case, it's the Irish versus the Italian mobs. And Cleveland became the top city in the country for car bombs. Really? Uh huh. Wow. That's awful. Isn't it just so the 70s are still plugging along. They try to rehab the city's image with the slogan, New York is the Big Apple, but Cleveland's

a plum. Oh. As in like a plum job. Yep. A saying that I feel like was already kind of gram-ish at the time. Uh huh. It was very fuddy-duddy. Welcome to Cleveland.

Fewer car bombs this year. Mm-hmm. We had our clumbling industry. All of our sports teams were... They're pretty notoriously bad usually, but they were not great in the 70s. But we get to the 80s. We get to 1986. Things are looking good. We're getting the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, much to the country's dismay, because they're like, why is it going to Cleveland? Why did it go to Cleveland? Cleveland can lay claim to it

because we had the Moondog Coronation Ball in 1951, 52, I don't remember exactly the year, but it's commonly believed to be the first ever rock concert. Whoa. And it has its own set of 10 cent Beer Night shenanigans. Yep. But we have so many things to talk about,

so we're just gonna keep moving on. It's implied shenanigans. Yep. But we have so many things to talk about, so we're just going to keep moving on. Just implied shenanigans all around. Yes. That's why Cleveland defended it. The reality of it is, as I have read over the years, we got the rock call because we were like, please, we'll pay for building the museum. Just put it here. Please give us something. We know we're not going to get the Olympics. So, right. Yeah. So like 86 is a good year for Cleveland. Nice. With all of this said,

we have finally made it to Balloon Fest. You now understand why Cleveland needed a win. Yeah. Let's go. And you know, it's the great American belief system is all about second acts, you know? So this is going to be their second act. Oh yeah. So I'm going to tell you a campfire story about September 27th, 1986.

Oh, boy. The site of Cleveland Balloon Fest. The United Way of Greater Cleveland wanted to pull a publicity stunt to get Cleveland back on the map, investing half a million dollars in the event and orchestrated by the L.A.-based company Balloon Art by Treb. The titular Treb is Treb Heining, a balloon artist who wished to break the record for the most balloons ever released, breaking a previous Guinness World Record set in Anaheim for the 30th anniversary of Disneyland the previous year. It was between 1 and 1.2 million balloons released for that event. I like that Disney couldn't quite keep track. They're like, I don't know, we got it down within 200,000 balloons.

Yeah, most people say a million, but I've seen some sources say it goes up to 1.2. Nice. So, you know, a little bit of wiggle room. My brain cannot even visualize how many balloons that would look like. I feel like maybe there's like a Caroline Calloway moment when all the yet-to-be inflated balloons arrived, and they're like, Jesus Christ. Just a giant, like, dump full of unflated balloons. And then he would worry about storing them because what if it's like it heats up in there and they

like catches fire in the middle? I mean, it didn't happen this time, but you got to be careful. Oh, there was planning. So Treb's a balloon artist. He actually is the man who I believe invented the balloon arch. Really? Like he's got his own backstory that I didn't read as much about, but he started working for Disney. He became the premier balloon artist in the country. He's the guy you get for something like this. It was kind of a Wild West at the time, I guess, for balloons. Yeah, well, they were big and they were colorful and people saw them as this exciting kind

of event. Yeah. And I realized that balloons are a little complicated because my understanding is that as with actually most things on the planet, there's a limited supply of helium. And once we use it all up, we're just going to not have any. And that's wild. But yes, I love balloons. Humans are fragile little creatures who love shiny things and brightly colored things and things that fly around in the sky.

And I really love that about us. So six months of planning going to this event. Beautiful. That includes getting clearance from Cleveland Hopkins Airport, fire, police, getting the logistics for busing kids to the event, getting porter potties, like the works for what you need of something of this scale. If you're going to have a bad idea, at least works for what you need of something of this scale. If you're going to have a bad idea, at least like plan ahead. Yeah, no, this was done by capable people, you know? Yeah, and by grown-ups, importantly. It was ran by grown-ups.

I will say that leading up to the event, kids, like literal teenagers, sold tickets and or notes that could be attached to the balloons to help raise money to offset the cost of such an event. The majority of the people who inflated these balloons were high school students. So the balloon box that housed the one and a half million balloons that they had was constructed in Cleveland Public Square in front of Terminal Tower, which some of you might recognize from various films. In Marvel's The Avengers, Tom Hiddleston has to tell a bunch of Germans to kneel, because that's Germany.

Nope, that's Cleveland, the site of Balloonfest. Fes, God, I love the idea of Loki being like, Neil, this is the site of Balloonfest, show a little respect. The thing is, a bunch of Clevelanders would just be like, no, fuck you. It's the best thing about it. So like that is the scene of where we are. We are setting these balloons loose. The pen that all of these balloons were housed in was 250 feet by 150 feet.

And it was three stories tall. The scale is incredible. And it reminds me of learning about like The structures like the huge boxes they had to like place on the river floor when they were building the Brooklyn Bridge I think mm-hmm. So miss mr. Treb Heining that man is a California boy Here is what he had to say about the weather in Cleveland. Oh boy We almost got wiped out the night before with hurricane force winds I'm a California kid. I'd never experienced anything like that before

I've been doing events for almost ten years and always had good luck, but I was afraid that my luck almost ran out Hmm. That's the thing about Cleveland weather is like people generally say like the weather's pretty crummy honestly today in California It's like overcast and like 69 degrees, which is about what it was the day of Balloon Fest. People don't tend to compliment the weather in Cleveland, but it's pretty non-lethal for the most part. The cold might get you, but like for the most part, it's not hostile weather, it's just not nice weather.

Yeah, and this is in September, so it's not like we're in winter storm season either. Exactly. You can't plan for the weather, but you can plan for some reasonable predictions of what the weather could be, I think. Right. So the weather's going to play a big factor in Balloonfest here. Oh boy.

The night before the event, there were 40 to 60 mile an hour winds reported with heavy downpours that flooded some streets. Reports of the night describe trash cans flying down the street and the entire balloon structure flapping in the wind. By your standards, would that have been pretty hard to expect for that time of year? It's not totally out of the question. That's just a thing that can happen. Okay. You certainly can't figure that out six months in advance and it's not like you can just kind of like put the balloons away. Yeah. Like once you've started, there's no going back with this event.

Right. I mean, actually it is in that way like the other 1986 event, the launch of the Challenger, where it was came down to like, well, we kind of have to do it now or never. The entire basis of making balloons and launching them is helium and helium doesn't stay in balloons for very long. So like, right, this is either all or nothing. This is the do it or bust. So, right. And that is the kind of thing that you can imagine, you know, and this is comparatively low stakes, but yeah, so many disasters. It's like, there's a certain number of things that seem dodgy to various extents, but there's often a sense of like, well, we just, it'll be fine. It'll probably be fine. It'll be fine. I bet. So between 2,500 and 3,000-plus volunteers, most of which were high school students, that I heard referred to in one article as Treb's Balloon Platoon.

They worked non-stop to inflate just shy of 1.5 million balloons for the launch. These teens were expected to do roughly 700 balloons in one day, with many getting blisters on their fingertips. In coverage of the event, most volunteers can be seen with bandages on their finger, either because they got blisters or to prevent future sores. And may I just say, okay, 700 balloons a day if you do the simplest math possible. So like 10 hours is 70 balloons an hour, which is over one balloon a minute. Something like that.

So, there was a 70% chance of rain the day of Balloonfest. It had stormed the night before. That kind of weather doesn't usually just go away and clear when it tends to linger. So there's a cold front coming in and showers expected to start around 2.30. That is the time of the launch. It would have maybe made more sense to do it in summer, but they didn't, so okay. Yeah, no, I agree. So to beat the weather, the launch was pushed up to 2 or 150 by some accounts I've seen. So some spectators very

nearly missed the event, but even with the adjusted time, the rain started just as they released the balloons. Oh man. Ladies and gentlemen, there is no mistake on the lake anymore! Shouted little John Rinaldi of local late night fame as one half of the famed Big Chuckin' Little John Show. Because we're all going to die today. He screams this as the swarm of balloons lifts into the air and engulfs Terminal Tower. So the crowd cheers, people are like, yeah, Cleveland! They are stoked. Bikes for reporting are being cl the crowd cheers. People are like, yeah, Cleveland. They are stoked. Bikes for reporting are being clipped by cheers.

Everyone is so, so jazzed about this. And I'm gonna be honest, it looks awesome. So it looks great. The iconography's stellar. When I got this email from Heather, I looked at footage of it, and it is spectacular. And it looks, the balloons from that that distance that many of them look like they look like a visualization of red blood cells, like moving through an artery or something.

And it also looks like the bees and Candyman. Oh, yeah. Which I kind of want to believe was slightly inspired by this. But it is it's stunning. It is on some level, I guess, kind of I get excited whenever I see humans make something much bigger than ourselves Yeah, like this feels like the indomitable human spirit as these balloons almost create a hand that looks like it's going to rip tower city out of the ground Like as it wraps around the skyscraper, it looks ominous and violent and colorful and lovely It's great. So because of the weather, originally it was expected that only about 10% or 150,000 balloons would descend back onto Cleveland.

Which is a lot of balloons. It's a lot, but in reality it was closer to 60%, which is about a million, like 900,000 give or take. Jesus. So this descends back onto the city. This was within about 10 minutes of the launch. They went up and they came down very quickly. So they plummet back down onto the city and Lake Erie.

The immediate aftermath caused Burke front Lakefront Airport to shut down. Some businesses had to close numerous traffic accidents, including a 10 car collision. Oh, my God. Prized Arabian horses were injured in southern Medina and the death of two fishermen whose boat had capsized as they were lost on the lake. Oh my God. What did they think would happen? And I'm not saying that there's not a good way for this to have gone, but like the balloons all

they're not going to go into space, right? They have to go somewhere eventually. Yeah. So what was the idea? I think the idea was they were going to be dispersed enough that it wouldn't cause any major impact to any one area. So it's like every town in the Midwest would get a handful of balloons and just kind of move on. Yeah, maybe. I saw like one report that said like some of the notes they were writing on the balloons that they were like selling for a dollar was like, hey, greetings from Cleveland. Hope you're cool. And like Saskatchewan or whatever. Like they were hoping that like this was just going to kind of be like a flat Stanley thing where they could just like,

he would reach all parts of the country and be like, hey, this came from Cleveland for this event. Isn't that cool? I saw one report say that they just thought the balloons would go high enough that they would just disintegrate, which isn't how that works. And I don't know how substantiated that report was. It is like humans have a hard time visualizing where our stuff goes, understandably, because we do have a system where, you know, professionals take it away and we never see it again. Yeah. So let's let's let's talk about these fishermen for a little bit. Yeah.

So Coast Guard was out searching on the 27th, the day of Balloon Fest. They were searching for the fishermen and it was very difficult to impossible for them to distinguish heads bobbing in the water or like an orange life vest because it was just thousands and thousands of balloons on top of Lake Erie. It looked like you had just covered the lake in sprinkles. It was it was very difficult to find anything. One member of the Coast Guard went so far as calling their rescue efforts as trying to find a needle in a haystack. Those running balloon fest did not check if there were any emergency situations that the balloon launch might affect, and it subsequently forced the halt of the search for the men. On September 29th, the Coast Guard suspended their search. In the following week, the men's bodies washed on the shore. One of the men's widows would later attempt to sue United Way for three point two

million dollars. Fair enough. And they settled out of court. The woman who owned those horses tried to sue them. Also settled out of court for, I think, the hundred thousand dollars, I believe. In addition to personal harm done by Balloonfest, there was a great deal of environmental damage done by all the non-biodegradable latex balloons with thousands of them washing up in Canada. Oh Canada. Sorry about the balloons.

Yes. The results of the international incident with Canada, not specifically the Canadian part, the everything else part, resulted in Guinness revoking Cleveland's world record that they did indeed set. So what was once conceived as a possible annual event ended up losing considerable money and was by all accounts a disaster. Except Sarah, you know what show we're on, right? Like, this is your show. I don't need to tell you. This is you're wrong about. Yeah, that's the name of the show.

There is a lien to everything I just said. Perfect. And now we're going to go ahead and really break that down. Here's where we get to have a little bit more fun, because this story is not a tragedy the way that everyone thinks it is. Because there's nuance in those balloons. Exactly. Yeah. The Sunday edition of The Plane Dealer, which is the main newspaper in Cleveland, recounted the events the following day after Balloonfest.

It included all of the mishaps, including the deaths, but emphasized that overall the event was a success based on the happiness of the crowd that was gathered from Public Square for the event. I believe it was around 10,000. Amazing. And by my research, that is the most people that had gathered in Public Square in like 40 years. Yeah, getting people into the city to share something feels like something that was declining as cities were getting less dense in this period. Let's talk about maybe the most egregious things

about Balloonfest here, because I've got some stuff to say. I got some details. First and foremost, let's talk about these deaths as a result of balloons. Yeah. All right. Okay, counselor. Thank you. So the evening before balloon fest, Skip Sullivan and Raymond Broderick went out fishing

about an hour before the heavy storm hit. The goal was for them to go out fishing for like five hours, come back at midnight. The following morning, their families reported that two men were missing and their 16 foot boat was found anchored just west of the break wall of Edgewater Park, which is just west of downtown Cleveland. The day of balloon fest. I realize this isn't super relevant, but do we know what they were fishing for? I don't, but I want to believe it's perch because Lake Erie perch is like the best perch. So they go out fishing, their family reports they're missing. Two life jackets were found in the water nearby and the Coast Guard theorized that the boat

had capsized, throwing the men into the lake, and it's assumed that they probably tried to swim to the break wall near where their boat was anchored. The most prevalent detail that people bring up whenever they talk about Balloonfest is specifically this because this is what makes it like go from being like ha ha funny to like a tragedy and it's not funny. But this is not really what happened. Allow me to quote from the article where truth ends and fake news begins on Cleveland's 1986 Balloonfest, a letter from the editor by Chris Quinn. This is like the best article about the truth of Balloon Fest and a good number of things that I've learned about it are from this article.

Amazing. Thank you, Chris Quinn. Here we are. Quote, consider this. By the time Cleveland's balloons were released, the two fishermen were missing for at least 14 hours. If they dropped into the water with the storm at 830, it would have been more like 17 hours. Might they still have been alive when the balloons went up? Possibly. The average water temperature in Lake Erie on September 27th is 68 degrees. This is what U.S. Coast Guard Auxiliary says about that temperature. If you lose control of your craft and find yourself immersed in the middle of the lake, hopefully wearing a life jacket, you won't survive 12 hours in water at 60 to 70 degrees. On top of that, the two men would have been fighting against Lake Eerie's notoriously strong curds

during powerful storms. To say that Balloonfest killed the fishermen is ridiculous. Is it even possible for Balloonfest to be part of the reason that they didn't make it, right? If the conditions were such in the water. Mm-hmm. I think that it's a very, very, very strong chance that the fishermen were already dead by the time the balloons went up. So the idea that there was an emergency in place

and the Balloon fest people ignored it. That's not necessarily true. There's also reports that say that the helicopters had to suspend their search because the balloons were in the air. They didn't. They had to suspend their search because of the rain. At the same time, the balloons were released. There's a lot of these like things that are existing parallel to each other, but aren't necessarily interacting with each other in this story. It's a correlation, not a causation. Exactly. Was it like trying to find a needle in a haystack with these guys?

Yeah, sure. Probably couldn't find them bobbing in the water with balloons. But at that point, like you're not helping them. That that's the sad thing about this tragedy is that these guys died and it happened to be on a happy day by all accounts. Yeah. But the balloons had nothing to do with it. Yeah. And if you are mourning a loss, then that is maybe feels less relevant.

But if you're making history about it or a nice Internet video 30 years later, then the timeline is right there. It's important. You know, it's a little bit disingenuous and to be like, well, people died. And it's like, OK, I get that it's a better story. It's more compelling. But yeah, it does feel like that's not a reason to prohibit Cleveland from trying to have fun ever again. For real, like the minor tragedies that follow this are like the car accidents

that happen. Yeah. Would you follow this are like the car accidents that happen Yeah, would you like to hear about these car accidents? I would love to I would also before we move on I would like to point out for people who don't aren't familiar with the area In North America, we have this thing called the Great Lakes. Oh, yeah, and they really are great and they're like oceans basically It's not like mm-hmm. You cannot see Canada on the other side. Yeah. It's that big. And that's also part of the situation. So yeah, it also feels like nature is scary and a fun day can turn into a dangerous day very easily and the balloons didn't help, but yeah, they can't take the blame for everything.

Exactly. There were reports of car accidents that I heard described as drivers swerving to slowly avoid like blizzards of orbs falling from the sky or something, which I just think is a very funny way of describing this. The most infamous of these incidences was a 10 car accident on the shoreway leading into Cleveland. So it's like, you know, the on the shoreway leading into Cleveland So it's like, you know The westbound shoreway of people driving towards downtown would have had a view of the balloons According to one witness people were stopping their cars in the middle of the highway and getting out to chase balloons

Oh my god Most of the car accidents from what I can understand were extremely minor collisions because people were simply Gawking at balloons and not watching the road. That's again not necessarily the balloons fault, that's user error. But my favorite thing about this, and this is where like local knowledge comes into play, i90 is a straight line. Like it is the straightest highway. Like something's not going to jump out at you. It's not, you're not coming around a curve, you know. So the idea that like people had had to swerve or dodge things, it's like, you see everything. You see absolutely everything coming. So I don't know. I think people stopping because they saw the

balloons and then getting in the way. I don't know, there's something whimsically stupid about that. And that's kind of the worst of this. And hopefully having, yeah, some pretty low-speed collisions. Right, again, it feels like to blame Balloonfest for all this feels in a way like you get to hide just sort of how dangerous any day in any city is just in terms of like there are going to be accidents, people get lost a lot. I am not trying to fully exonerate the balloons, but I simply believe they do not deserve the sentence they were given.

No, I think that there are some some mistakes that the balloons made, but it is certainly not to like the first degree that everyone tends to sentence them with. No. Yeah. I don't know. This is just that thing where I'm like people are embellishing details to make it sound more devastating than it actually is. Yeah, it's enough for it to be devastating than it actually is. Yeah. It's enough for it to be kind of an environmental hazard. That should be the main thing, right? Right. It's like, and then we learned that no one, not even Disneyland,

should probably be releasing one million balloons into our fragile ecosystem. But instead we have to do it as like, and then those balloons, they got loose and they killed everyone. And it's like, you know, I will say that it's often reported that Cleveland's record was never acknowledged or that it was stripped from them. The reality of it is they did for a single year in 1988 actually have the record in Guinness for the largest ever balloon launch. And then the following year, they discontinued that record because they didn't want anyone to try to break it. So I think that was about the point where we went, listen, OK, we know this is bad either because of like the bad PR that it might have gotten.

But I don't think that's it because it was mostly region specific. It wasn't like a big tragedy of errors. I think it was purely for the environmental damage and the use unnecessary use of helium. I think that that is why they retired it. So in a sense, Cleveland will have the record forever. Good. Good. No one should break it. Then we would have ended up in this like balloon arms race for the rest of the 80s. It would have been, I mean, God. There's one other final thing that people talk about when they talk about like the disaster of Balloonfest, which is the airport closure.

Mm hmm. Because closing an airport is a pretty big deal. Like, that's like a terrorism level event. Like, it's true. And yet the question does occur to me. How big was this airport? That is the right question to be asking. So Cleveland's main airport, you know, the one that matters is Cleveland Hopkins.

That is far south. That's like down by Brook Park. That is nowhere near the north side of the city on the lake where Balloonfest was. That was the airport that they got clearance from when they were planning the event to see if it would affect that airport at all. The one that closed was Burke Lakefront Airport, and Burke is a dumb, useless airport that nobody uses. Like, it's a very big airport, like all things like it takes up a large amount of space.

But like, I think that's just kind of every airport. Right. I mean, it's like if the Hillsborough Airport had to close, like, I know that things would be affected, but not very much. Yeah, like, it only closed for 30 minutes, which is like, again, a detail that some people choose to neglect because it undermines the severity of it. It downplays, like, the tragic severity that they like to talk about. But the thing with Burke is, like, the only people that use it are usually, like, sports athletes when they're flying in for a game or like politicians. Right.

Like normal people don't use Burke and it oftentimes closes for like large amounts of time for like car shows or air shows for like whole weekends. So it's not a big deal. Like it's such an unimportant airport that they want to turn it into something else. Maybe a balloon fest museum, you know? Honestly, like if there was just a like a plaque, I would love a plaque. That would make me really happy. I will say that there is one particularly litigious family that most Clevelanders don't

like who are trying their damnedest to buy that property. And Cleveland's mayor, Justin Bibb, who is the fucking man and I love Justin Bibb, is basically saying, no, we're gonna find some other productive way of doing this that'll service the community. It's wonderful. So I love that shit. A city that is for its own people can never lose.

Mm-hmm. You know? That's what I love about Cleveland versus other cities. Like, it's the biggest small city. There's a good chance that you'll know somebody or you know someone who knows somebody. So it makes it feel more intimate and like a community. And so it has the sense of like we're all in this together. I really, really appreciate.

Yeah, I'm even going to go on a limb because it's a whole spin of thing in Portland forever and ever of like, we don't want Californians moving here. And individual Californians are fine, I think God knows they're being burned to a crisp down there. It's, you know, transplants generally do not by themselves destroy a place. It's the footprint of the corporations that a city invites in without asking for anything really, on the front end that can destroy a place or it's, you know, what some very wealthy individuals can do. I just think it's important when a city gets to define its own history, you know, and like it's honest about it, like, because I'm sure there's a lot of people who want to paint themselves in better light, like, oh, no, no, no, no, bad stuff like this didn't happen.

Like Cleveland's not allowed to forget it. People will remind us they almost exclusively bring up the bad things or like LeBron James or and that's about it. They're like, I hear LeBron James was afraid of a balloon getting him so he left town. I don't think that happened. So television news coverage of which there's a fair amount of archival footage covering this event because it's not so old that it is lost. Right. Showed a great deal of enthusiasm from the teen volunteers, from attendees, from Trev himself who remarked on camera that all of his friends in LA think

he's crazy because he's thinking about moving to Cleveland. He's going to do the reverse Calangelo. Here's the thing, you move to Cleveland from LA and you're going to go, Jesus Christ, everything is so cheap. So from what I can tell, all of the kids that had bandages on their fingers, all recount this as being a very good event. They enjoyed their time, they had fun, they were maybe tired, but like this was seen as a very positive experience. But I believe that and I still feel like that speaks mainly to the fact that people have an overwhelming desire to be a part of a community and a part of a team and a part of something

bigger than ourselves. And that's definitely yeah, it makes sense that like people loved getting to make those balloons because so few things happen in Cleveland. Like that's that's really what it boils down to. Like we don't have the cultural footprint that say Portland does or a much more eventful city like New York, LA, Chicago, whatever. I don't know, when something happened, it's cool that you were there for it. Sure, it's probably a nightmare in the moment to be a part of Tencent Beer Night,

but you can just go like, yeah, I was at Tencent Beer Night and people go, oh, shit, that's cool. I think in a way that's how I feel about Gus Van Sant movies, like the ones that were shot in and around Portland in the late 80s and 90s, where it's like, I don't watch them very often, but when I do, it's like this scrapbook of like, the place where my friend used to work, like the kid I went to high school with,

the kid I met that time downtown, the locations and the people, it's like, I don't know, these moments in history too, that you get that kind of, you feel like someone is not just showing your city to the world, but they're showing something that is like just beyond the borders of your own scrapbook, you know, that feels very intimate.

Oh yeah. Yeah. It's existing in my city just beyond where I could have gone. And that to me is exciting. Cause it's like, I was almost there. Yeah, I think every city is like this in its own way. You know, the people when we truly love it, it's like we love everything about it. And we love the things that feel

that actually contribute to quality of life or that we're proud of. And we also like love to hate things or remember things or be annoyed about things together. Oh, 100 percent. I remember whatever year it was, 2015, I think, the year that Cleveland actually won a championship. The Cavs won the NBA finals that year.

And I am not a sports person by any means, by the way. Like, I don't want anyone to misconstrue me talking about Cleveland sports this episode to think that I know anything about anything. My favorite sports team is the Browns, and it has nothing to do with their playing. Like the Browns are hilarious. Yeah, like the Cavs parade was so big and everyone was so overjoyed that we actually won something because part of the Cleveland tourism videos is their economies built on LeBron James that Republicans have like co-opted pictures of the Cavs parade to be like, look at this gathering for Donald Trump at the RNC or whatever it is.

Like they try to pull that stuff. It was that big and the crowds were that packed and that intense. Oh my God. And then the following year, the Browns had a perfect season in which they're only like one of two teams to ever lose every single game. And we had a perfect season parade in which everyone sat in a rainy parking lot and tailgate. And I had to go to work, so I couldn't go. But like, I love that story because like Cleveland's a very funny city.

Like, we are such a funny city. Like they sell I survived balloon fest t-shirts. Everything about Cleveland, like we have such a good sense of humor about ourselves, but only when we make fun of ourselves. Yeah. And I think that's common about most places. Yes, as is correct. I don't know. I feel like a lot of cities are sort of homogenizing their culture. I think a lot of cities are losing their own charm, especially post the pandemic when a lot of places closed. A lot of institutions didn't make it out of that. Yeah. And now they're being upcycled into these dreadful minimalist eateries and. Yeah, God, the number of restaurant and, you know, theater and bar and anything that's fun

to do at night entertainment that we have lost, I think is, yeah, I guess one of the many things that it's like there hasn't even been time to really process. Like my baggage with Portlandia is that I've never seen a whole episode of it when it came out. I was just like, absolutely not. I already hate it. I'm 19. I'm very stubborn.

I'm never going to watch this thing. It doesn't feel inaccurate to me what I've seen of it. Like it feels on point and at the time, especially and and the whole put a bird on it thing was true. Someone needed to point that out. None of these are inaccurate as cultural phenomena. But I think what got under my skin and actually really helped inspire me to get on the Tanya Harding beat at the time when I was starting in grad school was this idea of like, yeah, that is who we are, but like we as a city in a weird way are like wholeheartedly embracing the idea that we now have a reputation nationally

and it's just this. And it's like just as a haven for kind of like twee problemless white people who just graduated from Swarthmore and are like learning to forage. And like that's true. And I am that person, although I could never have gotten into Swarthmore. But it was also that it was like it felt like the city trying to sort of launder its image by being like, yes, exactly. Like we are the crispy candy coating you see in Portlandia. That is the city. And it's like, we are not a crispy candy coating. We are a crispy candy coating over a weird old

city with a history of industry that's interesting and often pretty dark when it comes to logging and paper production and the relationship that people have with the land. It's the Pacific Northwest is interesting is like a place where a lot of people came, especially in the seventies to just be left alone. And some of the stuff they did was great. And some of the stuff they did was nefarious,

like Portland and people I think know a lot more about this now, because there's been so much good writing and culture on in the last few years. But like historically, on a legislative level are an incredibly racist city and a very white supremacist city, and historically one of the most segregated cities in America. And so it felt like this, there's something about like to truly love a city is to also get a clear view of its faults and its major problems and to sort of to love it, not by sort of selling it as this adorable kind of toothless little utopia, because that's built on

top of something very dangerous. I don't know to respect that no city can survive for over a century just by being adorable, you know? Oh, for sure. I mean, Cleveland's the same way in that it is heavily segregated. It's heavily redlined. The east side is the older side of Cleveland, and that's where a lot of the black families live, and it is generally regarded as like the neglected side. It hasn't been gentrified. I accept all of those truths about what's going on in that city, and it sucks. But like, that's also a thing that a lot of people don't mention when they think

about like the cool happenings of Cleveland. They just go like, don't go to East Cleveland. You'll die. And I was like, you're probably fine. Yeah. To love a city in the long term is to kind of to love what it could be. If it could. Oh, yeah. Get its shit together and to ignore those problems or to allow it to continue to not. And every city has a lot of ghosts and those ghosts deserve to be looked at and acknowledged and then we get to fix things.

Yeah, like that's kind of what this whole thing is about because it's like, it's hard to say when the perception of Balloon Fest shifted from this like regional novelty into this way that it's treated to like millions of views. I think that the Atlantic in like 2018 put together a little mini doc, like six or seven minutes of archival footage, and it has a very negative slant of being like the disastrous Balloonfest or whatever it is. And that's how a lot of people learned about it because it got like 15 million views or something like that, like a huge amount. At some point, the story of Balloonfest left our neighborhood of, you know, the greater

Cleveland area. And that's when people started to paint it with this brush. You know, they started to sort of recontextualize this event to suit what they wanted. The common perception of Cleveland to be the thing with like what United Way did with this event is like they actually instilled like civic duties to children. Like they got them involved in philanthropy. They got them involved in volunteering. They got them involved in like working with their community. They wanted them to do all of these things and put like a love of that in them

that would then carry to other events, other preferably not balloon related events. These kids ended up raising like $220,000 to help offset the half million dollar budget of Balloon Fest. And with the lawsuits, they ended up losing quite a bit more than that. But like it gave the kids something to be proud of with their city. Like they were like, we're going to get a world record. We did this. We put this together because people don't tend to like achieve so much in Cleveland

the way they do other places. There is a ceiling to where you can go in Cleveland, especially if like you're a poor kid, especially if you're from like a not particularly great family, like you either leave or you just make it work. And I don't know, I want to believe that this taught kids how they can make it work in like this new idea of what Cleveland could be, like in the 80s to redo, you know, the Carbomb City, the Tencent Beer Night City, the Flaming River City. I think my Beer Night City, the Flaming River City.

I think my main concern is just the ecological impact of it. But again, it's like there was a lot more going on at the time that just wasn't conspicuous and that wasn't colorful. And just in terms of their effect on the environment, like how deep do you think this is? That's really the one part of this that I can't defend, because like it's clearly bad for the environment. Like there's no two ways about that. But like what people don't bring up is that Cleveland was breaking an existing record. Disney had released a million balloons the year before, and no one talks about how bad that was for the environment.

Right. It's not like the Disney balloons like made it into space and are still out there. Other rivers have caught on fire than just Cleveland's rivers. Like, that's a thing that has happened elsewhere, but it is only brought up in Cleveland. Come to Cleveland. Other rivers have caught on fire. Right. And this idea that we've established Cleveland as the underdog and this idea that like, well, it's okay for Disney to release one to 1.2 million balloons into the sky because they're a corporation and we love them and they're winners. And like, it was fine when they did it.

I've had like kind of stuck in my head the last couple days for whatever reason, like Ben Stiller and heavyweights being like, I want to see a bunch of skinny winners around here. Oh, hell yeah. And I feel like in America, really, you can do anything as long as you're a skinny winner, you know? And is Cleveland being punished for just not for the mistake, but for trying to escape being America's underdog in that moment? But I also feel like, you know like cities that can't hide their troubles,

cities where the river catches fire, cities with rates of maternal mortality or fetal mortality, or rates of crime, or rates of past environmental disasters and contagion that can make other places in the country feel glad that they're not them. It's, you know, it feels maybe truest of all that like we are all in this together. Like as a country, we are ruled by the same corporate overlords. We're being polluted by the same chemicals.

We're all subject to the whims of the same extremely powerful jerks. I was like, what's how mean do I want to be here? I don't know. I'm going to call them jerks. Yeah. And also that, you know, cities that have a hard time early, like are the ones where people are able to come together as a community within a community to try and do something about it, you know, and that the most dangerous place to be in in many ways is a city that can successfully hide its troubles from itself. Oh, for sure. The thing I kind of wonder about, like, as far as that's concerned, is like, what does the have, especially in the Rust Belt and Flyover State, it's like, that's how you get ghost towns,

where it's just like, yeah, there's nothing left for me here. What do you do? Because you can't just say, okay, collectively we all gave up on Cleveland, we're just gonna wipe our hands and try again. You can't just do that. There's a lot of issues with Cleveland, as there are everywhere, I I am sure I'm just more intimately aware of them. The thing that I love about the city is that so much of it is people just trying to make it work. And like

some very, very successfully in very specific ways. There was, I think at one point this was relevant to me. Like I think it was like 80% of all concert venues in the city were owned by women like it's amazing There's things happening where people are trying to make changes. There's a lot of like community events It was a city that was taking care of itself I don't know I just think there's something about that that only exists in like these working-class cities That is just really really hard to put into words and is worth protecting May I just say Cleveland rocks Cleveland rocks so hard. I love Cleveland.

Harmony Calangelo, you do podcasts, you're a historian, you're a cineast, I would say. I'm just throwing titles at you. Thank you. You have some of the best movie memorabilia I've ever seen in someone's home. What else should people know about you? Where can they find you? Where can they find more of your stuff?

I mean, I'm on the internet. I'm on Twitter and Instagram at Velocitraptor. I also host the Teen Girl Movie Podcast with my wife, BJ. And we break down, like, how teen movies have aged and, like, the concept of girls growing up and gender and all sorts of wonderful things on that show. We also have a book on Sleepaway Camp

in which I tear open my still-beating heart and talk about how much that movie means to me and the struggles of trans film criticism. Like a bat out of hell, yeah. Like a bat out of hell. It's the last thing I see as it flies away. Still-beating. Still beating. Still beating. And that was our episode. Thank you so much for listening. Thank you for coming to Cleveland with

us. Thank you to Harmony Calangelo of This Ends at Prom for your passion and for your knowledge. Thank you to Taj Easton for editing help. Thank you as always to Carolyn Kendrick for producing. We will see you in two weeks. Stay frosty. So Thank you.