ZM's Bree & Clint - Abbie Chatfield with Bree & Clint - 23th July 2024

Episode Date: July 23, 2024

We chat to Abbie Chatfield - about the infamous viral clip of Billie Eilish hitting on her (OMG) and what's it like hosting FBOY island. Season 2 out August 6th on Hayu!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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iHeartRadio, Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts The ZM Podcast Network After Party Duh Are we now recording? Yeah, now we're recording Because the whole way through that one before I said

this is not the intro This is not the intro Oh, did you? Yeah This is the intro to the After party, which today is a bit different. We had a chat with Aussie reality TV star, social media personality, radio presenter, Abbey Chatfield. Yeah, Abbey Chatfield was in Auckland promoting the TV show

that she hosts, FBoy Island Australia. And we just thought, let's get her on the podcast. So we had a longer chat with her. You'll get an edited version of this on tomorrow's radio show, FBoy Island Australia And we're very lucky to have the host of that show in studio with us right now. Welcome to the show, Abby Chatfield. Thanks, Bree and Clint. I'm so excited to be here. It's so exciting to have you here. Oh my God, everything's so exciting. This is your first time in New Zealand. This time have I? This is your first time here.

You're kidding me. No, I know. Well, I've been saying to everyone I couldn't afford to leave the country for a little while, you know, before I got this career. So I'm going, let me have my time. Although I'm really sad I'm only here for two days or three in total. Two shit New Zealand weather days. Yeah.

Well, I'm all here for the weather, you know what I mean, coming from Bondi. I'm all here for the vibes and the personalities. And I've had the best day ever. Have you met good vibes and personalities? Genuinely, every single person that I've been interviewed by has been so funny, such good content, really gorgeously dressed. Everyone smells nice.

I don't know what's happening over here. It's like a better version of Australia. She's trying to win us over. And then you come over here and we're bloody bush pigs over here. Yeah, it was let down, but I will persevere, you know. What goes up must come down. Exactly. You are low-key or not so low-key obsessed with Crowded House?

Obsessed. Has anyone offered to like sit you up with a meeting with neil finn while you're here in new zealand uh no but i have been offered a few times in the past to interview him okay to go backstage before his show or something yeah but i just i just feel like what am i gonna say to neil finn you know all i'm gonna say something very embarrassing or i'll cry or faint or something i don. Well, don't because please welcome to the studio the Neil. Shut up. The honourable Neil Finn.

Like we could kiss him. Neil Finn's cousin's hairdresser. I'd accept that. I'd probably faint at that as well, honestly. You'd be like, what's he like? He does have great hair. You're the host of If Boy Island. How do you define if boy?

Okay, so I think at their core, if boys are insecure losers who manipulate women in order to feel better about themselves and get very, very empty validation through toying with women's minds. It sounds like you're speaking from experience. Would you say you've accidentally dated an F-boy before? Yes. Every single person that I've ever dated, I think,

is an F-boy in some way. I've probably dated every single brand. Up until now, right? Except for my beautiful boyfriend. Now, who you think would be an F-boy being a DJ and a, you know, I would call him a rock star, guys, in my eyes. We know him, can we say? We've met him quite a few times.

Lovely. Always been an absolute delight. You didn't ask, but we approve. Thank you so much. Seal of approval from us. Franklin approved. We love him. He helped us do a prank one time where there used to be a person

who worked in that coffee shop out there that looked exactly like him. We thought he bore a striking resemblance until we brought him in here and put them side by side. And we sent the coffee guy in here to do an interview instead. And it didn't work at all. But he was up for it, which is lovely. Did Adam do the coffee? Because do you know that Ruben, the other half of the duck,

Adam told me literally last night that Ruben actually was the best barista in Australia for a period of time. Okay. And Adam was like top three in Canberra or something. What? I'm going. So together they are the coffee boys. The coffee boys who also do music.

Music. I don't understand. It's very strange. Yeah. But F boys. F boys. I feel like they're just losers who don't know how to communicate and are just desperate little vulnerable freaks is it their fault to put it lightly i mean don't tell us what you really think yeah exactly exactly yeah

they're projecting their own insecurities and toxic ways right yeah absolutely like like things like bread crumbing yeah love bombing what's bread crumbing Bread crumbing is when I'm sure give a little bit. Yeah, give a little bit. Give a little bit and you take it away. A little bit of what? A little bit of a fiction? Hansel and Gretel. Hansel and Gretel, you know, some fable.

Yeah. Where like if you're seeing someone and slowly they fade away, then they come back with like a little bit. Throw you a little bit. Yes, throw you a little bit, little bit, little bit. Had a dream about you last night. That's such an if boy line. Yes, had a dream about you last night.

What happened to the dream? How you don't want That's such an if boy line. Yes, had a dream about you last night. What happened in the dream? How you don't want to know. Story like, exactly, or reply to a story with a fire emoji, which I will say Adam actually did to me for two years. So now I'm kind of going what's happening there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, I've just had a realisation. I'm going the story like hearts.

Really got me, yeah. Do if girls exist? Yes. Absolutely they do. Absolutely if girls exist? Yes. Absolutely they do. Yes. Absolutely. Do they? Yes. Yeah.

I mean, I've dated definitely girls that I would say are if girls. Really? For sure. Does it look different, do you think, for women? Yeah, I think so. But I think it's a different, I mean, different thing, but they definitely do exist. What sort of, what's the difference?

Yeah. I feel like it's hard to describe let me think back of in my past dating days they'll just do things that just a normal probably girl wouldn't do when they're dating like like uh date multiple people but not tell you about it okay like you know play the field but not tell you about it. Ah, okay. Like, you know, play the field but not be honest about it. Yes. That type of thing. Oh, my God, you could host If Girl Island. Oh, my God, you could.

They did it in America recently. They did it in America. Did they really? Well, they called it Lovers and Liars because they wouldn't call it If Girl Island, which is a bit silly. Equality. Yeah, equality vibes. So I think it wouldn't work as well because

they'd be harder to find they are harder to find they are but i think the thing is like i think then the f girls have it's more of an empowerment thing or like it's funny because i think honestly let's be real there is a real epidemic of f boys around and men just having because of patriarchy, feminism, blah, blah, blah. It's more empowering when we're a bit mean to men. Sure. Which you definitely are on the show.

I've seen season one. I feel like you do it in a real funny, charismatic way. Yeah. I really wanted to know because on the show you look after three girls who are dating this group of boys and in the group of boys there's obviously f boys but then there's also nice boys can you do you get to know or can you tell like straight away which is which no i'm so bad at it i get tricked by them as well really i don't really get to know i know like your f boy radar's off it's so bad because the issue on the show is because

they're trying to win money you lose all sense of trust with them because if they're nice to me i go i go are you trying to trick me because you know they tell the girls things or are you nice are you nice because you're being polite because a lot of a lot of the times i can tell a telltale way to tell an f boy from a nice guy is if they're rude to me when we aren't filming or ignore me when we aren't filming, then it's like they have an issue with female authority and therefore they are F-boys. And it's usually, that's like genuinely.

A good indication. It actually is because they're like don't think that I should be in charge of them in a weird way because it comes down to, not to get too feminist, guys, but it does come down to a bit of patriarchy. And they really have an issue with it. So, like, you know, one of them, you know, they'll ignore me if I say, guys, can you,

because I'll be getting instructions from the producers, you know, like don't let them move, tell them they can get water afterwards, whatever. You're also the host. You're the boss. I'm also the host and I'm the boss, exactly. And ones that ignore me are usually F boys. And ones that listen to me usually.

Because it's like they can't help when they're off camera being polite to someone or being an arsehole to someone. Pro tip to any future F boys, if you want to maintain your cover, be kind off camera as well. I feel like that's also just great advice in life in general. You can always tell what a person is really like deep down by how they treat everyone yes not just the people who they need to be nice to or get stuff from

wait staff you know just everyone in general like it's a good like rule to follow yeah it's also how they treat crews like if i see them yes producer i know you're a piece of shit yeah like do any of them slide into your dms after filming? Or during filming? Well, they don't have their phones, thank God. But yeah, I have had a few slide in, but not in like a sexual way, almost in a

wanting me to help them with their career way, which is actually more offensive. You know what I mean? At least come on to me. know i'm like also i'm not your mentor for free yeah yeah i'd rather than have a crack that's interesting i was gonna ask you because obviously you were on the show the bachelor yeah um you're iconic on that show so many amazing one-liners you're now i mean hosting radio shows hosting podcasts a huge social media

following hosting tv shows is this was this the huge social media following, hosting TV shows. Was this the dream? Is this where you wanted to end up? No, babe. Like every job that I got offered, like I have a degree in property economics. So I did not know that. Yeah, guys, fun fact. I don't want to know.

It's just like commercial real estate and you can be a valuer or a town planner. Oh, my God, so you. Love that for you. Love that for you. I majored in town planning. Genuinely. Read it for physiotherapy. Yeah.

See? It's like sometimes. And look at us now. Look at us now in this beautiful corner office. But, yeah, it was never the plan. And when I went off the bachelor, I still worked in real estate for six months. Yeah. And then I just kind of kept getting

opportunities yeah and offered to me like my radio show when i got offered it i was sitting in my pulled over for this meeting with like the head of the station in australia who apparently well i didn't know it was a big deal at the time i was like oh i've got this meeting with this guy whatever and i'm chowing down maccas my leg up, inactivated. Do you want to know what I'm saying? Oh, what time? Whatever. And it's like, so it's not being my, and I don't want to sound like a wanker when I say that, but it's like, I just don't, I guess because I worked in corporate,

I never thought that I could do these things. So what's the point in dreaming? Okay. You know what I mean? Does that make sense? It does. But I could have a radio show. So why would I dream of having a radio show?

But it was offered to me and I go, oh yeah, love that that's amazing so yeah because i think that's underselling yourself a bit are you saying that the secret to one of the secrets to your success is not trying yes really a hundred percent a hundred i feel like that undersells your ambition no i agree with you because then you're just a hundred percent authentically yourself yeah i just don't feel like there's much to lose because a huge pull for me isn't like fame. It definitely is money though because I have two mortgages. But like fame is too. You've got two now.

Yeah. Oh, don't tell anyone. Congratulations. Eat the rich, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. No, but like I think that I haven't ever been, oh, I really want to be, oh, going to the logies is so exciting or like oh i want to meet this person i'm like i don't really care i just want to walk my dogs um and yap on the

internet about feminism or things that i care about so i think that's actually what it is that i don't really care okay that's an interesting take on it because i looked at you as a hugely ambitious person who's probably had a got a list of goals that you've gone tick tick tick tick tick no i've adhd i kind of remember doing my keys here right now preach it yeah do you know what i mean i don't and also i think because you guys would understand in this industry things change so quickly and what people like and what they don't like changes so quickly like tomorrow i could have no career yeah so if i'm putting my entire um sense of self and one thing yeah onto my career which i never really wanted but i don't want it but i was never desiring it it was nothing that i

even comprehended then if it goes away which very easily could yeah and that would just ruin my whole sense of self so i just kind of it's a great way to be yeah because then you're you're not so worried about losing anything and so you don't change yourself and you're not just panicking all the time. So you're able to just relax and be you and be authentic and I feel like that comes through in your content. Thanks, Gorge. Yeah, it's kind of like I don't seek the approval of executives. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, sure. I don't go, oh, what do they want to see? I just go, well, this is who I am and I can't really change it. Take it or leave it. Yeah. And if you want to leave it, I'll go do something else. Yeah, yeah. I do they want to see? I just go, well, this is who I am and I can't really change it. Take it or leave it. Yeah. And if you want to leave it, I'll go do something else. Yeah, yeah. I'll go out to real estate.

I'll just plan a little town or something, you know? This question actually kind of directly relates to that then. What is it like being the boss of a butt plug company? Well, I'm actually not the boss. I'm merely a collab. No. I thought it was yours. Well, it's mine in that I thought of the idea.

Yeah. And then normal, the vibrator company, we do a collab together little thing. Okay. So they've made it. The Abbey came first though. The Abbey came first with Vush. Yes. That got me the first house.

And then you're telling me you bought a house with your vibrator money. Not outright, but to get the deposit. How good. Yeah. Crazy, crazy money. It's insane. People love to come. So it turns out but uh yeah

the butt plug uh i mean i am kind of the face of the butt plug so that's been really really fun one of your people is absolutely laughing at the idea of you being the face of a butt plug by the way my face on it a little a little sleeve yeah cover the butt plug. Which end? Did anybody – so my question was going to be, did anybody ever try and talk you out of doing these things? Did any sensible suit ever say to you, hey, Abby, we're not sure that butt plugs or vibrators is the direction that your career should be moving in. It's not safe territory.

Yes, losers. So actually my first quote-unquote manager – I wouldn't call them a manager. They weren't very good. The first month that I was like okay maybe i can earn enough money from this that i could not go back to my corporate life yeah um i got offered just a deal to do a promo for a vibrator company which was like four times my social rates which was more than a month of income for me in my corporate job so i was like wild one more month to outwork in corporate.

You know what I mean? Month to month. Yeah, I'm literally thinking how many more months can I not go back to an office and wear a pencil skirt? And a kitten heel. And a kitten heel. Fuck the kitten heel. And a button up and then glasses, blue light glasses.

No one wants to wear that. Who wants to wear that shit? No one. My hair in a bun. Anyway, so I was like, I really wants to wear that. Who wants to wear that shit? No one. My hair in a bun. Anyway, so I was like, I really want to do this. And they said, no, you won't be taken seriously. You won't. You'll be leaning in too far into your bachelor edit.

It's going to be bad for you, bad for your career. And then I was like, but I want the money. And I also, I don't see anything wrong with it. And it's so much money for doing something that actually really aligns with me. Like it's not like it's like, I'm going, but don't we all have 15 vibrators in our drawers? You know what I mean? Yeah. Why is it such a taboo thing?

Yeah. Then I got rid of them and got my new manager who I've had ever since. And then I got the Vush deal two weeks later because he organized it and we started working on it because he actually believed in me. it was yeah people have tried to say no so what's the moral of the story then trust your gut yeah trust your gut if it sits right with you right that's what you need to listen to not everyone else yeah yeah absolutely because I think people really want to uh always play by the rules and take very low risks, especially when it comes to money and this industry.

And I just think that that always ends up backfiring on people. I see so many people that come off these shows and I'm like, God, I should start a course to help you guys actually get a career out of this because you've just fumbled at being too scared. That's a great idea. I know, but I can't really bother to talk to every maths contestant. Do you know what I mean? That's fair enough.

And then I'd actually have to reply to the DMs of the contestants on F1 Ireland. Exactly right. It would be your business. We've taken up so much of your time. Do you want to ask about this thing? One last question. There's a lot of stuff that's happened.

This was a little while ago, but I thought you were here. I need to ask you about this situation. I'm nervous. Do you remember this particular clip? You're so pretty. What were you doing, Abby? Listen, listen. What were you doing?

This is the thing. It's Billie Eilish, right? It's Billie Eilish. It's you interviewing Billie Eilish and she's flirting with you quite hard. Clearly flirting with you, giving you the eyes, and you didn't shoot your shot. Well, she actually asked me to go to the show that night. No!

But I had radio. So I was like, I've got to go on air, sorry. I've got to go back to the studio and go on air. Sorry? What? So, yeah, I hate myself. But I also didn't realise she was – Then the song Lunch comes out and you're like, that could have been her thing.

Yeah, but see, my self-esteem was so low. I was like, there's no way that Billie Eilishish is i didn't even think of it as an option same with you know this career i go that's not a thing so she's just doing a job i'm doing my job bye nice to meet you i won't come to the show so you did not get the vibe like it was on no until i watched the footage back and i went oh it was on then i do i dm her then like our producer ella watching that footage, I think she has imagined herself in your body multiple times. Oh, my God. It's so sad.

She was so angry at you. It's so sad. No, for me, sorry. Do you know what's crazy? People were saying that I was a predator because she was 21 and I was 27. I'm going, calm down, guys. Shut up, everyone.

She's an adult woman. She was flirting with you. I know. I'm going, actually,, guys. Shut up, everyone. She's an adult woman. She was flirting with you. I know. I'm going, actually, I was a recipient of the flirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay? You were prey. I was out of the way.

You were prey. I know. Poor me. Billie Eilish calling me pretty. But, yeah, so I actually struggled to listen to her new music because I go, what could have been? It could have been. And now that she's out.

What could have been? This all has happened after that interview. I know. Sorry. You could be living in L.A., like in a big mansion with Billie Eilish. I'd rather die than live in L.A., so actually for the better. And I'm with Adam from Peaking Duck now, so we're all going, what could have been?

Yeah. Australia is Billie Eilish. He's so Billie Eilish. He is so Billie Eilish. Especially in that cult. Yeah, he loves it. We love you. Thank you for being honest and very open with us in this chat.

It's great. And FBoy Island is out on Hey You. You can stream the first season, all of it now, and season two of FBoy Island is going to be on Hey You from August 6th. Abby Chatfield, thank you so much. Thanks, guys. Play ZM's Brand Clint. On Insta, Facebook, TikTok, and live weekdays from 3 on ZM.

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