ZM's Bree & Clint - Bree & Clint's After Party - 10th March 2025
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Five, six, five, six, seven, eight.
H-O-T-T-O-T-O
You can take me hard to go
Can we talk more about pretty privilege?
Is that something we can do on the podcast today?
If you want.
I thought you didn't want to talk about it in the first place
and now you can't shut up about it.
Yeah, true.
Well, I just feel like we got to the core of it on the show today.
We scratched the surface.
I feel like I summed it up pretty well.
You did, yeah.
Yeah.
You just get a lot.
Yeah, I guess that guy threw me off.
Yeah, to be honest, that guy threw me off too.
We did say, though, that he didn't have great examples.
Yeah.
And he was doing something different.
Whatever he was talking about wasn't pretty privilege.
I also want to see the person who's talking about the thing.
Like if you're talking about white privilege,
I want to know what colour you are.
If you're talking about pretty privilege,
I want to know what you look like.
You know?
Yeah, but.
It's context.
What are you laughing at?
You laughing because I said I want to know what colour you are?
Yes.
I do.
I do.
Yeah, but people who are talking about pretty privilege
don't need to be getting pretty privilege.
It's the Argos that get upset about it.
It's us Argos that are annoyed about it.
Yeah, I guess.
I think at the crux of it, it's just that you get treated differently based on how attractive you are. Oh, no. Yeah, I guess. I think at the crux of it,
it's just that you get treated differently
based on how attractive you are.
So, Clinton.
Totally.
And if you think that's not a real thing,
then...
No, I guess it's a real thing.
Do you think you're pretty?
Do you get pretty privilege?
I don't believe I get pretty privilege.
Do you?
No.
No?
No.
Do you think people like a nicer to you?
Do I?
Do you think I'm pretty?
No.
If anyone's getting it, it's me on this show.
You've got lovely eyes.
Great choosies on her.
You get titty privilege.
Yeah, I get titty privilege for sure.
And I get big fat.
No, I'm not saying it.
I'm not saying it.
Your inside thoughts come out a lot, eh?
I was going to say big fat flung privilege, but I didn't.
Thank God you didn't.
Thank God you didn't say it.
You.
Yeah, thank God that you refrained from saying that.
Do you know what Brooke, the late show host, said to me?
She says, I ask a lot of autistic questions.
You?
Yeah.
No.
And I was like, what?
What is she talking about?
That's shocking.
She's crazy.
Yep.
What's an autistic question?
How much money do you make?
Is that autistic or just brave?
Nah.
Oh, I mean, depends.
Oh, you mean like, I guess you're talking about unfiltered.
Yeah, maybe more unfiltered.
Yeah, right.
And then I ask like, what do you think?
I don't know what the symptoms of autism are, so.
You know what is an autistic question?
And I feel like, because I ask quite a few of these,
an autistic question would be, if I was a smell, what smell would I be?
Okay.
I feel like that's a leading question because it's like when your girlfriend
says to you, would you still love me if I was an earthworm?
Yeah.
And you're like, how the fuck am I meant to answer that question?
The answer is yes.
The answer, yeah.
How do you not know that the answer is yes?
It's in my pocket.
You answer it and then you move on.
Would you love me if I was a towel rail?
Yes.
Yes.
I'd love you more.
Yeah, I'd put all the towels on you.
No, but that's the wrong answer as well, isn't it?
Yeah, that's even worse.
It's like, right, so you're telling me I could be more attractive.
I'd rather you weren't a towel rail.
You know what I mean by leading question?
Where you're like, if I was a smell.
Yeah, but. Because if I say that you are. Yeah, what I mean by leading question? Where you're like, if I was a smell. Yeah, but.
Because if I say that you are.
Yeah, what smell?
Let's answer it.
What smell?
Pasta sauce.
Happy with that.
Are you happy with that?
Okay.
Stoked with that.
Like a tomato reduction.
Yeah.
I mean, how good's that?
Every time I smell cocoa butter, I always smell, like, it's Brie.
That's what you smell like.
What?
Yeah.
Oh, that's a great smell.
I'm going to say olives. Olives? Olives? Oh, the best. That's what you smell like. What? Yeah. Oh, that's a great smell. I'm going to say olives.
Olives?
Oh, not the best.
That's what she tastes like.
It's because she's Italy.
But that's another question.
What, like if I was a taste, what would I be?
That's another autistic question and stuff that I think about.
Okay.
Yeah.
You don't, do you have those thoughts?
No.
No, I don't even think about that sort of stuff.
I think stuff like that all the time.
You know what else was another autistic comment I made on the show today?
Where I'm like, I think about my dog and the fact that she will never see her mum again.
Oh, okay.
It's just weird how your brain...
Is that autistic?
Are you autistic?
I don't know. I haven't been diagnosed, but Are you autistic? I don't know.
I haven't been diagnosed, but I could be.
I don't know that that's autistic.
That could just be like you're an empathetic person.
It's like my wife said she got really upset years ago
when she was looking at our cat, R.I.P.,
and she got upset because when we got the cat,
she was already spayed, and she goes,
I'm just upset about thinking about what a wonderful mother she would be.
And she'll never get the opportunity.
Yeah, I have those thoughts about my dogs too.
She's probably ovulating.
Yeah, maybe.
Could be.
Hormones are wild, right?
Yeah, hormones can be wild.
For sure.
Do I have hormones?
Yeah, we all have hormones.
He's got testosterone hormones. You've just got different, you've got a different makeup
and mix of hormones to what we have.
That's why you're much more rational than we are.
I think female hormones, female hormones.
See, that was leading.
That was leading as well.
What did you say?
See, that's why he's a lot more rational than we are.
Female hormones, I feel like, because obviously we go through
what we go through, change and move up and down a lot more.
Every seven years.
Seven years?
That's when your cells refresh.
It's once a month.
I don't know about you.
I wish I got my period once every seven years.
Oh, how good would that be?
God, that would be.
Can you imagine how big of a deal, though, it would be?
Except would you get seven years worth all at once?
Seven years of what?
Of period all at once.
Yeah.
I think about that sometimes because I have to skip my period.
What?
I skip my period as much as I can because I've got endometriosis.
But sometimes, like, you know, after three months,
my body will just be like, you're getting it.
And I'm like, I wonder if there's more.
It's like built up.
I just Googled the list of privileges.
Oh, yeah, go on.
Pretty's not even on the list.
White privilege, gender privilege, Christian privilege,
cisgender privilege, application privilege?
What's that?
Application privilege control whether a user has access to certain application functionality, such as the context.
Okay, let's ignore application privilege.
Class privilege, educational privilege.
Yep.
Gender privilege, we covered that.
Object privilege
And what?
No that's a technical one too
Socio-economic privilege
System privilege
Hetero privilege
Ability privilege
Shit you've got all of those
Health privilege
There's another one
I think there was one that you didn't have
Race privilege
I literally was just thinking the same thing.
I don't have class.
I will acknowledge my privilege.
I absolutely will.
Wait, let's go through the list.
I absolutely will not.
But I don't have class privilege.
Is that the only one on the list?
You don't think so?
No, I don't come from an upper class background.
I come from a lower middle class background.
True.
Okay, I'll allow that.
And you don't have Christian privilege.
I come from a working class background.
What's Christian privilege, by the way?
I don't know.
I guess Christian, okay, I can tell you.
The term Christian privilege is one that many people may have heard,
which refers to privileges, advantages, rewards gained by members of the Christian faith.
Huh.
Nah, not in this day and age.
Clint has that too.
I guess it depends where you grow up.
Yeah.
Like, we live in a, what do we live in?
New Zealand.
Yeah, but our laws are based on, there's a word for it.
You would have learned this at school.
There's a word for it.
Our laws are based on Christian values, I guess.
They're derived kind of from. Old school Christian values. You hear that a lot, eh? Old school Christian values, I guess. They're derived kind of from...
Old school Christian values.
You hear that a lot, eh?
Old school Christian values.
Yes.
Yeah, so I guess...
Or family values.
Yeah.
Christian family values.
But if your religion is otherwise,
like if you have a Hindu or...
Buddhist.
Muslim, then Islamic faith.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's interesting. I would just definitely not go through the list and establish what privileges I have. I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's interesting.
I'll just definitely not go through the list and establish what privileges I have.
I think so.
Here, give me the list.
He's going to hate this.
Give me the list.
No, no, no.
I can Google it myself.
I am a privileged person.
Let's just leave it at that.
List of privileges.
Thank you for acknowledging.
We all are pretty.
Hold on.
Ready?
Are we ready, girls?
Oh, my gosh.
White privilege.
Tick.
Male privilege. Tick. Tick. C. White privilege? Tick. Male privilege?
Tick.
Tick.
Cisgender privilege?
Tick.
I don't think so.
Huh?
How dare you assume?
We assume so.
Tick.
Socioeconomic privilege?
Yeah, tick.
Educational privilege?
Tick.
I'm educated.
Oh, you didn't graduate.
Oh, yeah, I dropped out.
Able-bodied privilege?
Tick.
Mostly.
That's all of us.
Access to clean drinking water.
Passport privilege.
Our passport privilege.
Birthplace privilege.
Yeah, I was born in a country that's not at war.
Location based.
Where's the other ones that you were talking about?
It's giving me different ones.
Yeah, I like those ones you said.
Straight heteronormative privilege.
It's crazy to think, though, that like...
You actually, I think, have them all.
Yeah, I won the fucking lottery when I was born.
Yeah, you won the privilege lottery.
I understand that.
I absolutely understand.
Do you regret bringing up pretty privilege now?
No, I just draw the line of pretty privilege.
That's the only one.
I just think there's so much...
I thought if we said that you were pretty,
would you be more of the two? The only one he missed out on Adam Wolfe
Nah we're a hot show
Pretty is subjective
It is
Race, gender, all of that stuff is not subjective
It's black and white
Even like socio-economic stuff
That's not
I feel like attractiveness is subjective, right?
We're all like differently attractive.
But overall, you can be pretty.
Yeah, you can acknowledge someone's attractive
without being attracted to them, right?
I don't know.
I think there's the general socially accepted.
Anyway, this is not a hill I'm willing to die on,
so I want to abandon.
Yeah, to be honest, I'm pretty like, you know,
unbothered by the hilly as well.
I can take or leave the hill.
I'm too privileged to care. It's real.
Do we all have it? I feel like we all are pretty.
Let's go on that hill. This is such a fucking
secret. Wait, how did we
just get back to who's pretty
on the show? That's not what it's about.
Um, okay.
Bye! Are we done?
I'm wrapping up today. Okay, wait,
let Ella wrap it up. See you guys. Peace out.
Homie G's. See you tomorrow.
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