ZM's Bree & Clint - Bree & Clint's After Party - 18th September 2024

Episode Date: September 18, 2024

We're continuing a chat from the main podcast where we go through a list of scenarios and decide whether or not they're cheating... long story short, if it feels like cheating, it's probably cheating. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The ZM Podcast Network 5, 6, 5, 6, 7, 8 H-O-T-T-O-G-O You can take me hard to go Hi guys, welcome to the Bray and Clint After Party We've just been having a fascinating conversation about what is and isn't cheating. Do you want to hear what the other ones were? Some of them I couldn't say on the radio, but we can say on the podcast.

So two thirds of the way through the pod, maybe a little bit more, you'll hear a conversation about this. It's the first half of us talking about what counts as cheating and what doesn't. Yes. Here's some other ones. I'll just do the ones that we didn't do on the other podcast because if you want to hear those, you can go to the other one. For the record, Brie, Claudia and I, quite liberal. Yeah.

I feel like we're quite united on this topic, Ella. I am pretty chill. I just have strong feelings. Strong feelings. Yeah. Conservative feelings. Quite conservative. Yeah. Conservative feelings. Quite conservative, yeah. It's probably doing it anyway.

Yeah, those feelings will change as you get older. Okay, or maybe not. Or maybe not. Maybe you'll stay true. Would we be this bold if our partners were in the room? Probably not. Nah, I feel like my partner would probably agree with me on most. Halfway through, I was like, oh, my partner listens around this time.

I'll play it a bit more to her. They'd be like, my wife would be like, when you go, sending and receiving naughty pictures, she'd go, if it means I don't have to do it. She's like, you should be so lucky. Yeah, that's fine with me. Who's sending you pictures? Liking someone's posts a lot on social media.

Not cheating, but it is weird. Yeah, it's weird. It's a little bit creepy. Suspicious behaviour. I wouldn't say it's okay behaviour. It's also not subtle. Like if you're liking and commenting on things

to obviously have the goal of getting noticed by that person. Does it depend on what the photos are? Like if it's bikini girls versus like a dog. Yeah, I think so. I think so. It depends on, yeah. No, like if it's bikini girls versus like a dog. Yeah, I think so. I think so. It depends on, yeah.

No, but you can like bikini girls. You can't like a girl that you know's bikini pictures. That's the difference, eh? Oh, well. Like I can like Emma Ratajkowski's pictures, but I couldn't like. Why not? I couldn't like Claudia's. Why not?

Why not? What if Claudia's in Thailand and she's holidaying and she's in a bikini and she's got a margarita? Can I post fire emoji, drool emoji? Oh, maybe not you. Less for your life's sake and more for mine. Don't do that. I don't want to do these things, by the way. I'm just playing devil's advocate.

Okay, next one. Looking someone's way slash checking them out. Oh, that's fine. Not cheating. That's all good. Ella? What? Perving on someone? In what way? They walk past and you turn and grab a second look. That's human nature. It is honestly

human nature. It's not cheating. Are there T's or they're A's? I don't know. I don't technically do it but I don't know. I think that's fine. You've never had your head turned? No. Maybe I saw someone in the distance and I was like, I can acknowledge technically do it but I don't know I think that's fine you've never had your head turned? no maybe I saw someone in the distance and I was like I can acknowledge they're pretty

I turned my head for David Nika last week oh yeah I turned everything for him yeah yeah me too watching porn nah it's fine that's not cheating

it's not cheating how could that be cheating? it's not cheating it's just on this list I'm not saying that I think it is. It's just on this list. I feel like this is purely Instagram Reels content, not TikTok. Have you had those Reels pop up from those people?

And they're often American conservative Christian couples and they're like helping my husband recover from his porn addiction. He's 33 days porn free. What? Check the caption for my advice on how to support your partner as they recover from a porn addiction that mormon sister wives whatever thing one of the husbands in that show confessed to his wife that he had a porn addiction i'd love to know what constitutes a porn addiction for those people Yeah You know like did he use a porn website once or twice

And he's like Oh it's porn addiction I think an addiction is something where you can't control it So you have to have it I think the definition of addiction is something that you do repeatedly That negatively impacts your life Yeah So you can't be addicted to something

that's good for you like drinking water no i disagree you can be addicted to something that's technically good for you but only if you do it to the level that it's bad for you yeah yeah yeah like where you do it so much how much porn is bad for you yeah i mean who's willing to find out um okay give us another one. Another one. Oh, wait, Ella didn't answer. Meh. Okay, she doesn't want to answer that. Next one is, no, we did that one.

Oh, these are all just clearly cheating. Like, they're literally oral sex. Yeah, okay. With someone else. Sex ting, yes. What about the grey area like Dave Grohl? What about fathering a child outside of your marriage but intending to stay with your wife?

I think that's fine. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, that's fine. That's fine as long as you post about it on Instagram. As long as you're open to the public about it. Once the baby is born. That's right, eh? You know?

Yeah, yeah. That's all good. Yeah, that's fine. Okay, sweet, good. It's so good to clear these things up. Otherwise, people literally wouldn't know. They literally wouldn't know. Hey, here's one.

Is it cheating talking to one of your exes behind your partner's back? Nothing like- Untoward. Untoward, but you keep it a secret from your partner's back nothing like untoward untoward but you keep it a secret from your partner um only because you know that it will cause yeah yeah i don't think that's cheating it's not cheating but it's not great i do think it's a betrayal of your partner's trust because you're going behind their back to do something that you know they don't want you to do. If you're hiding it, it's intentional. It's not cheating, but it's not great.

Yeah. I wouldn't recommend it. It's also not worth it. God, yeah. If that's the thing that's going to break up your relationship, talking to your ex, but you're not talking to your ex because you feel like you want to get back with them, what's the point? Yeah, what's the point?

You had plenty of time to talk to that person when you were dating them. Just go be with him, okay? Yeah. It's also, like, it's so interesting, like, love being in a relationship. Like, really do. But it's also, like… But… Say it again.

No, I love it. I absolutely love it. But remember a time where the only person you had to think about was yourself? So, like, before, you know… Remember a time when you got excited about getting a text message? Oh, that's a good time. I remember watching Love Island. Was it Love Island?

Or something with Lucy. And she was talking about something. She's like, ooh. And I said to her, stupid thing. I was like, how come you never react like that when I do that thing? Whatever it was that was being done. She goes, because this is old. This is boring.

It's boring. And that's not mean to say. It's comfortable and familiar. Yeah. It happens in every relationship. It does. It's very natural. And I think you kind of want it to.

You need some level of predictability in a relationship. Totally. I agree. Otherwise your life is freaking chaos How fun is that first year though? Oh it's so good It's so fun How fun is the

I really really loved the time where you just text back and forth and you would just But in a good relationship you will have moments that feel like that again You'll have moments in your relationship where you have, you will have moments that feel like that again. You'll have moments in your relationship where you might have nights or you might have weeks or you might have holidays where you go,

oh, my God, this is. I think you have other type of moments. It might not necessarily be those. You have deeper moments. Yeah. But hear me out. Hear me out. I don't know if we've talked about this before, but here's a theory, right?

Here's a theory i have let's say it was a rule like in society that when you get into a long-term relationship let's say you know you've been together for four or five years yeah which is a long time i know what you're gonna say yeah yeah let's say every five years rumspringer you have to be apart for six months wait are we apart for six months as a test or are we apart as six months single six months single to do your own thing and then you come back together do you need six months well i think you need long enough to be able to miss the other person and for then i think when you do get back to together with the other person i feel like you will have those exciting feelings again you need long enough or you'll realize that you can live without them that's the other thing well yes it's like a relationship yeah test but

that wouldn't be the idea going into it. You need however long it will take to get through that is it cheating list to tick them all off and then come back together afterwards. Well, that's not long. You can tick those off pretty quick. In one night. I feel like that's the plot line in a movie

where a couple, they have that rule in their relationship. Yeah, it's... I think. Is it hall bars no no no that's a totally different thing that's literally just one week and they get to do whatever they want but like this i'm talking like people who want to be together i reckon there's people that do it yeah there has to be yeah i want and i wonder like how how it's gone for them like do they always come back to each other or has one person not come back?

Or do you now have an apartment in the city? Yeah. I just wonder if it would be – you know what? It would be a really interesting experiment. Well, if you're keen. I don't want to be the guinea pig. No? No.

Because my partner's way hotter than me Well this is the thing You have to be comfortable with your partner doing it too And I'd be left on my own Yeah I also don't want a solo parent For like six months Yeah no I don't feel like it's impossible with kids Like you know it breaks up the family unit too much

It's not fair on the kids Yeah it's not very fair on the kids. Guys, we kind of need you. These are pretty formative years. Someone just texted her on the text machine. They said, is kissing cheating? Yes. Um, yeah.

Depends what type. Oh, if it's like a pic. Like if I kiss my friend on the lips, that's not cheating. No. But if you're kissing because of other reasons. That's just very European. Yeah. Huh? If you're kissing because of other reasons yeah huh if you're kissing because of other reasons not like greeting then then totally if you think it's cheating yes it's probably cheating that's a great way to look at it you know you know it's wrong you know if it's cheating what if it's a deer

if your partner's there. It was a deer. If your partner's there and it's a deer and they go, it's fine with me, then no. Yeah. I just want to play seven minutes in heaven with the boys. Like if you're playing spin the bottle. Okay, yeah. What if they're the same sex as you and you're not gay?

Is that cheating? Probably. If you like it. Yeah, if you. If you like it, yeah. It's all about the intent. That's what this comes back to. It's all about the intent. That's what all of these can be answered with. What's the intention? Yeah. And you know

deep down if it's cheating or not. Babe, I know I slept with her. I know I spent the night with her, but I didn't intend to. Nah. I intended to come home. In my gut, I felt fine about it I was there

but my heart was at home Oh my god Alright Do you guys want to Disregard everything that we just said by the way Do you guys want to talk about the thing

What's that thing The thing Do you want to talk about the thing What's that thing Oh the thing Oh my god We've got through

the whole thing We didn't even talk about the thing You're talking about the walking pads No I wasn't talking about the other thing What's the other thing

What thing The thing I was about to wrap us up Oh Ella's bum hole Not her bum hole the walking pads. No, I wasn't talking about the other thing. What's the other thing? The other thing. What thing? The thing. I was about to wrap us up. Oh, Ella's bum hole. Not her bum hole. Oh, Ella Moondust. We'll talk about that when the video comes out, won't we?

Perfect. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't like talking about things when people then can't go watch. But teaser, Ella Moondust today. So get ready for that. All right. See you tomorrow. I must say, I give you a nine and a half out of ten.

Really? You like my ass? Not for your bum. I say for the thought and the intent of the prank, I give you a nine and a half. And my ass? And that's big coming from Prank Queen. Mooning someone.

Cheating or not? No. Brian, help me. If it's a brown eye, then yes. H-O-T-T-O-G-O You can take me hard to go Brian, help me. If it's a brown eye, then yes.