ZM's Bree & Clint - Bree & Clint’s After Party - 4th September 2025

Episode Date: September 4, 2025

Producer Ella has a bone to pick with Clint, and Clint learns a valuable lesson in anxiety. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Y'all ready for this. Don't turn that into a podcast intro. Don't you fucking dare turn that into a podcast intro. Nah. Consider it done. Five, six, seven, eight. H-O-T-O-G-O you can take me half to go. Clint Robbins.

What? I have a bone to pick with you. Oh, be gentle on me. I think I've got seasonal allergies. Okay. I'm a little bit snively. Oh, no. It's the first.

hardship he's faced in his life Hey, that's not fair Holy shit That's not fair What? I got gout that time Oh that's true

Yeah Sorry I take it back No what did you say the other day That fucked me off so much Oh here we fucking go Yeah okay Because I was jealous Oh okay

Not because I'm like Oh fucking Because I was jealous What was it He was talking about Oh I know what it was You know what we can't name The stuff

But we were talking about someone who had been struggling with self-doubt. Yeah, yeah, that's... Yeah, right? I didn't mean to laugh loudly at that, but I just remembering... What a fucking loser!

I'm remembering the conversation, that's why I laughed. Self-doubt and reading comments online and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then you said, what did you say? Words to the effect of, well, just don't. Well, just don't do that.

Why do they care? No, it wasn't why do they care. What was it? If you said something else. So their issue was they knew there were mean things being said about them in a certain part of the internet. And this is a public figure, this person. And they were still going to read it.

And they were talking about how it was upsetting them so much. And I said the solution is really easy. Don't go and read those things. Don't do it. No, there was something else you said because that makes sense. I wouldn't be angry at you for that. I'm like, that makes sense. You then said something else where I was like,

have you never struggled with self-doubt before? And you're like, I don't think I have. Remember? Maybe it was just the who cares. Like, don't take it to heart. Do you remember? Well, there was an element of it where I was like, why do you give a shit what those people think?

They're not doing the thing that you're doing. It was the self-doubt thing where you couldn't understand the concept of self-doubt. No, don't pat me like I'm some senseless moron. I understand the concept. Do you? I understand it. This is what it was. I understand it as a concept.

Do you know what? We come from a place we're jealous. We're just jealous of that. No, that's what I was trying to convey. That's what it was. But you've never had a real problem with that. No, I get it. Have you though?

Maybe he has. I get it. As you understand it or you actually get self-ed out. I have situations where I go, can I do this thing? And then I go. And you go, yep. And I go, yeah. I love that though, Clint.

I'm jealous. This is what I'm saying is that the reason I'm angry is because I'm jealous. I think what I get to with it is I go, can I do this thing? And then I go, well, who cares? I'm doing the thing. I want to channel that. Or they've booked me to do the thing. Or I've been given the opportunity to do the thing.

So clearly they think I can do the thing. So I can do it. Yeah, see, God. Yeah, I'd love to have a brain that. Or I think about people who do the thing, who I've looked at it. And in my mind, I go, they've got no business doing the thing. And I go, if they can do the thing, fucking I can do the thing. Well, see, I look at other people and go,

they're better than me. No, no, and I know there's people better than me at all kinds of things. Like, at our job, I know there is, but I also know there's people worse than me. Wait. So I go, well, if they let them do it, if that's an acceptable, if that's an acceptable level. I would just love to have a bit more of that self-belief that you just seem to exude. It's not even that. It's a lack of caring what other people think.

Have you ever been out of your country? Because that's where self-doubt comes from, right? No, yes and no. Yes and no. Sorry to keep cadden your question. No, no, no, you're fine. I have a question for you, though, Clint. What happens maybe you don't ever feel out of your comfort zone,

but have you ever felt out of your comfort zone? And then how do you feel? Because that's when anxiety kind of happens, right? Or the self-doubt? Because it's like, I'm not liking this. Personally, I've never seen Clint doubt himself ever. Incredible stuff. And we've worked together for a long time.

But maybe he has internally, and like you and I, like you and I, we're very vocal about that. Potentially. Do you guys not think the anxiety word is a little bit over-year? And I'm not saying that anxiety is not a thing. No, no, no. But do you think that maybe now it's sort of a catch-all word for feeling a little bit nervous? And some people are like, oh, this gives me anxiety. Does it give you anxiety or does it just make you a little bit nervous?

That's what someone with no anxiety problems would say. Yeah. That's what someone who's never experienced the feeling of anxiety. That's what they would say. So that's how I know that you don't have that feeling. Yeah, yeah. You know? And I'm fucking jealous of that.

I wish. I wish you didn't too because all of the things that you do and you get nervous about and you reflect on badly and you're like oh I fuck that up you fucking do a great job of all of them and it's wasted it's not just a wasted emotion it's wasted

energy is what frustrates me and I want you to enjoy the moment more free and you miss out on that and that's what I hate the most is that I and I really hate that about myself because I never truly enjoy like you know like fully where I'm like just there in the moment

enjoying myself like not ever like i have but not often you think like me don't you claudia i don't think claudia i'm a deeply anxious person i overthink a lot of things and it's an irrational anxiety that i'm like you don't need to feel that way and i know that but i'm like but that's what anxiety is it's an irrational thought that you've created in your mind and then it gets bigger and bigger and bigger i also get nervous about things separately it's like our chat that we had on the other show, on the main podcast today about you at the gym. And not the headphone part, that bit was funny. But the bit where you talk about how uncomfortable you feel in the gym,

not a single person is looking at you. I know that. And I know that you know that. I know that you know that. But it stops you from doing things that you want to do. Yeah. And I notice it, yes, Claude. I had a great chat about, you know how you said no one looks at you, right?

That's the line. No one looks at you. I'm looking at everyone. And you say no one's judging you. I'm judging everyone. But when you're looking, what are you looking for and what are you looking at? I'm judging everyone. Literally everything.

Are you judging them? I'm judging everybody on the street. That's not helping me. Cordia. That's why I feel anxious about people looking at me because I'm like, well, I'm looking at them. They're probably looking at me. I'm looking at them and I'm going hot. I do that as well.

You know what? I think my social anxiety got way worse from COVID. Like I don't think I was ever. What? Don't roll your eyes at me. I'm trying not to. I'm not rolling my eyes at you. I'm rolling my eyes at the world.

No offense. I'm rolling my eyes at the world. What do you mean? No offense, but you're quite ignorant on this topic because you haven't, you haven't experienced it. So just open your mind a little bit. I didn't audibly roll my eyes. I could have gone away with it for the listeners. Yeah, but you couldn't have got away for it with me.

You were looking right at me. No, I didn't look at you. I looked at the ceiling. You literally. went like this. You looked at her and then the ceiling and then the other side and then the floor. It's recorded. You know what's interesting though?

Inducate me. What did COVID do? I'm not saying that accusationally. How did COVID make it worse? When you, I think when you have social anxiety, which I think I have always had, the more you do it, the better you get at it. And I'm the same in any. Do what?

Socialize? Yeah. Or like go to things or go to the gym. Like for me as a person, if I, went to the gym, like in that area, not the area that I go to, if I did it, I'd get more and more comfortable. Like, it's not something, which is the, yeah, yeah. You know, and so the reason why COVID makes it worse is because for such a long time,

we were forced to not do anything. And then so it pulls you back steps. But are you not over it by now? COVID also taught us that other people equals bad if you're around other people there is a bad thing and that's what my hang up straight after COVID like being around people I was like oh this is not right and then you're like oh wait this is fine now

yeah like hyper aware of everything and other people COVID taught us that all the good things that we that make us human and make the human existence they're bad illegal naughty naughty naughty but you know what you know what and I feel bad for saying

that you're ignorant on this topic. No, no, I know what you mean. But this is the thing that I've learnt throughout my life, right? Is that I think it's very, very hard to understand anxiety or even depression as well, because I've suffered with both. For someone who's never experienced it, I don't blame them for not understanding it at all, you know? And I think it's completely normal to be really like, I don't understand that. Because if you haven't been through it, very hard to understand.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, I don't know what it's like to pee with a penis, because I've never done that. You never used a shie wee? No, I actually haven't. Oh, you should. It's quite fun. It's fun, but it wouldn't be the same, right?

You have to still be quite strategic about it. It wouldn't be the same unless they have invented like a long flexy one, so you can point it at things. Oh, that's fun with a little hose. With a little motor. They'd definitely, they'd have that on Timo. It's a good market there. Sure. Remember how we started this podcast, Alice did you?

A bone to pick with you. Was there actually a bone? Yes. You claimed that joke I made up. Are you for real? The job, the, not, the, what do? Yeah, yeah, I am for real. No fucking quote.

You came with the bones of it and I gave you the punchline. Yours was like, what does a frog do on their period? Peds or something. No, I said lily pad. No, what period products do frogs use? A lily pad. I feel like, I feel like I'm, Are you joking?

Wait, I feel like, I'm in that episode of Friends where Ross and Chandler fought over whose joke was in the what magazine was it? It's my joke! I was doing the whiteboard for the show putting your schedule together

and I'm like, God, he's a fantastic junkie jar. I did. I'm giving it to it. I regret saying that. But you don't mean that. I should never have said it. I should never have said it. Especially not in the tall poppy garden. I shouldn't have said it. No, but genuinely do you think you made that. Fuck, you're so right. I know. I thought about it straight away.

I was like, why did I do that? puppy garden why couldn't i just not do that for one segment that's so funny working with you are so much patience i'm gonna be such a good mom i remember you telling that joke i think what happened is ella actually came up with the the bits of it like she had all the bits but i think clint helped you refine it no but you had the punchline she doesn't want me to have any credit no ella came up with the joke all of it yeah i said lily pad you did i think this was another joke clint yeah me too oh no you don't screw you It was probably while you were coming up with Friday, okay

No, I've sat that way Because there was audio And who do they think they are? That's still up in the air because there's no audio No, that was definitely Claudia I was there for that, don't even Anyway, I love you guys Thanks for teaching me valuable life skills

Such as Patience Yep Patience is a virtue Possess it if you can I wish I had more Found in women, often found in man. What the, what the fuck?

Are you fucking joking? Wow, I'm definitely turning you a little song. I'm glad I called you ignorant. Five, six, seven, eight. H-O-T-O-G-O, you can take me hard to go. Play Z-M's Brian Clint on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, and live weekdays from three on Z-M.