ZM's Bree & Clint - ZM's Bree & Clint Podcast - 1st April 2025

Episode Date: April 1, 2025

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ZM's Bree and Clint podcast. It's our radio show, but wrapped up in a neat little package just for you. It's ZM's Bree and Clint podcast. ZM's Bree and Clint, thanks to KFC's Hot and Crispy Boneless. What good is a fast car, a flash house and a gold-bladed dunny to me? ZM's Bree and Clint, live from Sydney. Oh, g'day, Cobber. G'day, mate.

It's Bree and Clint, live from Sydney. Is that g'day, Cobber. G'day, mate. It's Brian Clint, live from Sydney. Is that your Aussie accent? Yeah, I'm pretty much, I feel like me and the apple cider vinegar girl are on par with our Aussie accents. Caitlin Dever. Caitlin Dever. We're interviewing her today. Yeah, we are.

Far out. We're interviewing Caitlin Dever. Mate, I'm the only Aussie on this show. People are going to tune out. Oh, yeah, true. Yeah, we need to have something nice to listen to. Yeah, we are in Sydney. We're going to talk to some of the stars of The Last of Us,

like Caitlin Dever and Bella Ramsey. We're also going to talk to some of the stars of The White Lotus, like Patrick Schwarzenegger. And we're hoping to have some of these guys on our show tomorrow. Yeah, literally tomorrow. The biggest shows of the year. And we're here interviewing stars from both of them. We're talking to Leslie Bibb.

She's been amazing on The White Lotus this season. She has, eh? I've really loved her facials that she gives. You know, like the side eyes. She's Kate. She's the well-to-do Texan mum. She's one of the three best friends. Who's joined a church. Yeah, they all talk behind each She's Kate. She's the well-to-do Texan mum. She's one of the three best friends. Who's joined a church.

Yeah, they'd all talk behind each other's backs. On real straight edge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So wish us luck with that this afternoon. And we'll come to you live from Sydney for the rest of the afternoon, including a round of Tradie vs. Lady next. Yeah, if you want to play Tradie vs. Lady, we're doing it all the way here from Sydney.

So call us now, 0800-DIAL-ZM. Here's Alex Warren, mate. You're on ZM. Stop that, please. Play ZM's Bree and Clint. And it's time for Tradie vs. Lady. It's Tradie vs. Lady. Three, two, one, let's go.

There is not a day that will go past where we will not decide who will win, the tradies or the ladies. I think it might be the most important thing on our show. It is. Even if we're live from Sydney, I don't care where we are, we play. Yeah, yeah. And the score sits at 22 to the tradies, 26 to the ladies. Our lady is calling us from Canterbury.

She's 36, and her town has the best bakery and ice cream shop in the country. Welcome to the show, Danica. Hi, Danica. Give him a shout out. What's the name of the bakery and ice cream shop? Garfield. Garfield Bakery and Ice Cream Shop. Shout out.

You're taking on our tradies today. They are from Auckland, they're 23, and their favourite celebrity is Harry Styles. Welcome to the show, Georgia. Hello. G'day, Georgia. Why Harry Styles. Welcome to the show, Georgia. Hello. G'day, Georgia. Why Harry Styles? What do you love about him?

Why not? He's just great. Great music. Great personality for me. Exactly. Great hair. Great hair. Yeah.

Great rig. Great all-round. Rockin' bod. Okay, you took it too far. And those come-hither eyes. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Don't starve me. Let's go with your names as buzzers today. Okay, you took it too far. And those come hither eyes. Yeah. I mean, don't stab me.

Let's go with your names as buzzers today. Georgia, you buzz in with Georgia. Danica, you buzz in with Danica. And the first three will win 50 bucks. Good luck, guys. Here we go. Question number one. Penne, linguine, and macaroni are all types of what?

Yes, Georgia. Pasta. Pasta. She's away and flying. One to the tradies. Question number two. In rugby union, how many points is a try worth? Danica.

Danica. Four. No. Georgia. Five. Yeah. It is five. God, you're off to a flyer.

The tradies on two. You need this one, Danica, to stay in it. Question number three. Buzz in when you can tell me who sings this. Danica. Danica's in. Britney. Oh, it's right in the pocket for millennial Danica.

She's away. One to the ladies, two to the tradies. Question number four. What is the world's largest online retailer? Is it Amazon, eBay, or Trade Me? Georgia for the win. Amazon. She's got it. Well done.

I tell you what, the tradies are a steam train. They can't be stopped. I thought Alibaba would have been bigger. You reckon? Timu. Oh, Timu would be good too. Georgia, well done. You're our tradie versus lady champion today.

We've got 50 bucks cash coming your way. Yeah, very good. No worries. Well done, Georgia. Thank you. Oh, good sportsmanship too. On the weekend, I had an interesting experience with my four-year-old daughter Maggie

who had her birthday and her birthday party. That's right, how'd the new bike go down? The bike was a hit. So she has insisted, parents will get this, she's insisted she's ready for a pedal bike. Okay. She's absolutely not. Like there's no way. What age are kids ready for a pedal bike?

Four to five, but it depends on the kid. Depends on their development. Yeah, my other daughter, Tui, got one at five, and she got on the bike and she rode. She didn't need any lessons. Training wheels? No, no training wheels. Really?

And they tell you you should avoid the training wheels if you can. Do they? Yeah. Is that a thing these days? Is it? No training wheels? Yeah, because it makes them reliant on the training wheels. They don't learn to balance.

What if you're an adult learning how to ride a bike? That's a very good question. You know? Can you imagine seeing an adult with training wheels? Or an adult and their elderly parent running behind them, holding the seat, and they're like, Go, son. I won't let go.

I won't let go. Balance. Don't worry, I won't let go. Use your balance. I'm 48. I don't have any. I won't let go. Don't worry, I won't let go. Use your balance. I'm 48. I don't have any balance left, mum. Anyway, teaching my four-year-old daughter how to ride a bike gave me a terrifying glimpse into what teaching my daughter

how to drive a car is going to be like. Because I think it's exactly the same. I got, I know what I'm doing. That was one of the things. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Because I feel like your daughters are quite different. I don't want to do it that way.

Your eldest daughter, Tui, would be like, yeah, show me how, Dad. She's a sucker for the rules, my eldest daughter. But not your younger one. She's a rebel without a cause. But I just know that that's exactly what it's going to be like. When I have to teach you how to drive a that's exactly what's going to be like when i have to teach you how to drive a manual all hell is going to break loose and all i can hope is that by the time that comes around in what 12 years time manual cars are extinct and here's the thing

are you actually going to be the one teaching her or are you going to do what every smart parent does and get a driving instructor to teach them? Oh. That's what my parents did. Well, technically we learn how to drive. I learned how to drive when I was 10. You know, that's smart. That's smart because you don't teach your kids your bad habits. Well, this is the thing.

And we talked last week about how I got pulled over by the cops for my bad habits. We hire professionals in every other facet. Why wouldn't you hire a professional driving instructor? I'll tell you why. Because it impacts on my dad pride. And I'm like, no, I'll teach my daughter how to drive a car. No, no, no, that's something that I will do.

That's my duty. But actually, pay the professionals. You're probably right. And no one gets hurt. No one gets hurt. She comes home. She can drive. We haven't had a fight.

I wonder if those driving instructors will teach you how to ride a bike as well. I'm sure they're out there. Hire one of those as well. Dead end Franklin. Read an article on the Herald which was talking about things you should be washing, and I feel like I'm not doing a lot. And I want to see what you're doing in your household as well. Yeah, okay, yeah.

You're a pretty cleanly person. I don't think you're on top of your washing. You're thinking hygiene, but it's not hygiene related. Oh, okay. It's things in your house, like deep clean stuff. Oh, God, I walked out of my house on Monday before we flew out. God, what happened? Did you have a fight?

Yeah, and I'm not going back. Walked out of my house on Monday before we flew out. God, what happened? Did you have a fight? Yeah. And I'm not going back. But I saw the shit covered in cobwebs and stuff covered in dust. That's what I mean. And I said to myself, who has the time? Who has the time to just be cleaning their own house their whole life? Yeah. There's just so much upkeep, isn't there?

And as the maid came in the door as I went out, I said to her, God, we appreciate what you do. How long have you guys had a cleaner for now? Shut up. I was joking, but don't talk about the fact we actually have a cleaner. It's only like once a fortnight. We've had our cleaners for six months. Amazing?

Amazing. What kind of stuff do they do where you're like, oh, I wouldn't have even thought of that? We can only afford to have them do the bottom floor of the house. Okay. But they clean the bathroom, the kitchen, the dining room. They vacuum and mop. You know what's a dream is they clean the windows.

Oh, see, stuff you don't even think about. Such a shit job. Yeah, yeah. And they do a good job. They do a good job. Unlike us normies. Okay, producers, you can- Can I justify my cleaner?

Sorry, now I'm the guy who's going to clean it. Okay, now he's worried. I have a cleaner too. Do you have a cleaner? In the flat that I'm in. I don't think it's that unrelatable. I'm a bit self-conscious about having a cleaner. I'm not sure what my cleaner does, to be honest.

They're amazing and they cost $100 a fortnight. Okay. Oh, yeah, that's not bad. Yeah. And I think it's $100 well spent. Yeah, because your house is enormous, so- Shut up. Big kitchen. It's hard to

keep a house that big clean. So many rooms. Let's go through this list that was on the Herald. And we'll see if me or my cleaners are cleaning these things. Yeah, let's see. It's entitled Deep Clean Essentials. So this is what they're saying you should be deep cleaning.

First one on the list is reusable grocery bags. What? On the count of three, yes or no. One, two, three. No. Never have I ever. I've never even thought about it.

I lose them before they get dirty. Yeah. They just disappear. Yeah. That's single use to me. Almost. Oh, here we go. Now he's throwing money out the door.

Okay, next one. Shower curtains and liners. We're anti-shower curtains in this team, aren't we? We hate shower curtains. Can't clean what you don't have. Get rid of those. What about potholders and oven mitts? Oh.

You know, like your... Yeah, yeah. Your big oven gloves. I don't think I've ever washed an oven glove in my life. No, me neither. Have you? No. Neither.

I have. Chuck them in the washing machine. They get manky. Really? Yeah. Nasty. Us too. Next on the list, are you cleaning these things?

Bathmats and bathroom rugs. Yes. Yes. Of course you are. Constantly. Because they go in wet. They seem like a sludge pit to me. They go in the same time as the towels once a week.

I've been in flats or I've visited flats where the bath mat has not only never been washed, it's never been lifted up. And you sit in the shower and this is the sound it makes. You're right. That is tinier waiting to happen. Disgusting. What about bath mats, loahs and poofs?

You don't wash them, they wash you I don't have one so It says on this list you should be washing them How do you wash them? I've got an exfoliating glove Yeah I've got a loofah And I must admit I do wash it every now and then Do you?

Yeah What are you washing that loofah? No. Is it going up your bum when you clean your bum? I'm not telling you that. How often are you replacing it? Oh, every couple of weeks. No, bullshit.

Every couple of weeks. Okay, maybe every two months, I reckon. Nah, I haven't even had that loofah since 2019. No, I have a brand new one. Bring it in and we'll smell it. Yay. It's brand new. Who's using loofahs by the way?

Who's using a loofah? Gross and stinky Wash your legs guys I want to sniff that No The sniff test coming for sure Okay what about winter hats, gloves and scarves? Yeah sure but I don't use them

Nah No I've never washed a hat I'm not washing that It's not cold enough to wear them What about your mattress protector? Nah Wash it Yes but not as often as I wash the sheet.

Same. And it should be. It should be. Your body should be. I don't have one. Do I need one? You don't have a mattress protector? Are you kidding?

No. And you're getting married. Do I need one? What does it do? It protects your mattress. Unless you have a waterproof sheet, you need a mattress protector. Where do you think all the sweat and stuff goes? Your body oils and juices are going through that sheet into the mattress.

Brian and I are pretty gross. There's no nice, clean person out of us that's bad. Yeah, get a mattress protector. Okay, thank you. Or a body sock. Or just borrow Claudia's loofah. The communal loofah. Okay, a few more.

We'll run through them quick. Pet beds and accessories. Like their harnesses. No, a few more we'll run through. Pet beds and accessories. Like their harnesses and No, but it should. Pet beds we do. Just bang them outside. Yeah, air them out for a bit, put them back in. And the last one on the list is stuffed toys. Stuffed animals.

Who's going to admit to having stuffed toys? I don't have any. Well, you would have some in your house because you're the kids. We wash the ones that the dog puts in his mouth and they get covered in slobber. And then that's kind of the cycle. Well, there you go. Like each toy gets a periodic clean because once a week the dog will choose a different toy to put in his mouth and then we yell at him and then it goes in the washing machine.

It's the circle of life. And in the dead zone is Claudia's loofer. There we go. Perfect. Zed-In's Brinkland. Claudia's loofer. There we go. Perfect. Let's get the tea. The Tea. Live from LA with Dean McCarthy. Dean, I haven't given Bree the details on this,

and I think she might poo-poo her little pants when you tell her. Tell us, the big star who has poured fuel on the fires of rumours of a sequel. What's the rom-com Dean? Oh my goodness everybody sit down with me while Jack Black has actually said that he would love to do

a sequel of The Holiday. The Holiday Part 2. Stop it. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wasn't it recently that Kate Winslet went on the record and said, would love to? It's slowly grabbing all the stars. You know who the biggest problem is going to be?

Who? Cameron Diaz, but she has come back to acting. She's doing more movies. Dean, what does it mean when stars start dropping little breadcrumbs like this? This is very intentional, absolutely I think that it's to start the PR buzz I mean, any writer, director, producer, everyone would want to be involved with it

Even if they couldn't get the original directors in that back They would get someone else, right? The only thing you need to do is get the big actors Jack Black's in, Kay Winslet's in, we're all in It's going to happen What's Jude Law up to? Surely he's in, Kay Winslet's in, we're all in. It's going to happen. What's Jude Law up to? Surely he's in.

I reckon he'd be in. He'll be available. You know the biggest challenge they face, Dean, and this will be intentional too, oh my God, once you become cynical about these things, you see things for what they really are.

Do you remember last year, Dean, Jude Law gave an interview on BBC Radio 2 where he revealed that the cottage on the holiday that everybody romanticised about moving to, he revealed that the cottage on the holiday that everybody romanticised about moving to, he revealed that it wasn't real, that it was just a set

and they actually shot it in Los Angeles. Yep. There's a reason they're all talking about it. There's a reason. The crumbs. Oh, they're good at this stuff, hey. It is very Taylor Swift of them. Yeah, yeah.

Can you imagine everyone? It's got such a cult following that movie. There's no doubt that it would do well. The thing is about the holiday too is it's a Christmas movie and we're in March. Is it likely that a movie like this could be in the works to come out in time for Christmas, Dean? Or is that too fast to turn around? I think that, I love your thinking, I wish. I think it might be too fast. I think unless they're already, the script is signed off

and they're just going to go shoot it in the next month or so, but no, I'd be too soon. They do love to drag this stuff out, eh? It's like that Avengers story we talked about last week and they're like, it's coming in 2027. I'm like, well, don't tell me. The trailer's like, some of you will be dead. Some of you will still be here.

Life as we know it may have completely collapsed, but the sequel to The Avengers is on the way. Well, that's very exciting, Dean. Thank you for the tea. So pumped. Oh, yeah. Brie and Clint, we're live from Sydney. ZM's Brie and Clint podcast.

We're live from Sydney because we're going to interview the cast of The White Lotus and The Last of Us. I put that on my Instagram last night that we were going to talk to, particularly the White Lotus cast. Yeah. Bombarded with people. Really? Who are you talking to? Who are you talking to?

Any good questions we can use? No, none. Oh. It was just like all these girls saying, say hi to Patrick Schwarzenegger for me. He's the heartthrob of the season. And I will. If you DM me, I will say hi to him. And we'll showger for me he's the heartthrob and i will if you message me if you dm me i will say hi to him and we'll show you a picture individually for all of you we'll be like hi from tegan said to say hi from caitlin hi from anastasia um and he'll respond

to all of them i um got sent this instagram post by my wife the other day we have a cat she is her name's bowie she's like eight and um she sent me this post of this 30 year old cat i saw this post it's like a world record or something at the moment with the caption imagine if bowie lives till 30 um it's a picture of leslie the oh no millie sorry is it millie or leslie does it really matter at this point? She wouldn't remember her own name. No, Millie is the cat, and she just turned 30. She's having birthday cake with her owner, Leslie, and he's 70. Millie the cat was born in 1995. She was Leslie's late wife's cat.

So the cat has outlived his wife. So it's gone through a couple of owners, lived out a few people. That cat was born in the 90s. That's wild. How do they know? How can they know for sure? We talked about this in the Uber yesterday. Yeah.

You can't know for sure. It's not like you can cut it open and count the rings. But there'll be photos of the cat with his late wife. And I don't know, is there a picture? Were they smart enough when the cat was born to hold up a picture of that day's newspaper probably not is there is there video footage of the cat watching the news coverage of 9-11 like i mean it's a great question who you don't ever know if your pet is going to live to be the crypt keeper no you don't you know like but that is an

old ass cat imagine what that cat sounds. It'd be on death's door. That cat, like its eyes, it looks like it is, I was going to say it looks like its soul has left, but I actually think that cat looks blind. Don't you think? Oh, it's got cataracts for days. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cataracts.

But other than that, I think that 30-year-old cat looks all right. It's in not bad neck. And that's why we need this cat to write one of those New Zealand Herald articles that people who turn 100 do, and the cat reveals its secrets to a long life. And everybody reads it and they're like, please be smoking sex and chocolate. Please be smoking sex and chocolate. If I know Millie the cat, she has smoked all the cigarettes she can

and has had all the sex she possibly could. Yeah. Wow, that's weird to think about. Yeah, I didn't even bat an eyelid at what I just said. that's weird to think about. I didn't even bat an eyelid at what I just said. It's early here in Sydney. The ZM Podcast Network. Live from our hotel room in Sydney.

Shit weather in Sydney, by the way. Yeah, pretty average, isn't it? Yeah, not the Australia experience I expect every time I fly into this country. Yeah, we expect them to lay out the red carpet weather for us. I expect the drums from Land of Down Under to start playing as I get off the plane. Some bloke in a cork hat to greet me and a land cruiser

and me to drive to the city with the windows down. Oh, that sounds like a dream. Maybe next time. Maybe next time. Speaking of Australia, I read this interesting article where this woman was talking about her gym that she goes to. Have you heard in Australia the big trendy thing is lavish gyms? No.

This is like a growing trend here apparently. What's a lavish gym? A lavish gym, and I'll read from this article because this particular gym, it's called Total Fusion. Okay. Such a wanky name, eh? Yeah, yeah. And it has everything at Total Fusion. It's got the total package, LED therapies, float therapies, cryotherapy.

Oh, there's also obviously the gym. I was going to say, is there any weights? Infrared saunas. They've got spa, facials, massages, lasers. Is there a beach press? Yeah. Okay. But this is on top.

Oh, right. And I think some of the different locations also have like physiotherapies within their, dieticians, psychologists. It's a whole package gym. Do you want to know? Psychologists? Yeah. At whole package gym. Do you want to know? Psychologists? Yeah. At the gym?

Yeah. Okay. Do you want to know how much it costs? I don't know, do I? For a total fusion. Considering I quit my gym membership last year when Mkosi lives and I was paying $26 a week. Okay. Which I think is-

I couldn't justify it anymore. Maybe on the higher side but not crazy. No. Ridiculous. You can get a 24-7 gym membership

in New Zealand for like $12-13 a week. Yeah. I pay and I've got like a premium membership at my gym

and I pay $18 a week at mine because it allows me into the Pilates room. Oh nice. So that's why I pay the extra. Is there a psychologist in the Pilates room. Oh, nice. So that's why I pay the extra. Is there a psychologist in the Pilates room? There is a room with massage chairs that allows me to get in there

with my premium membership. But, I mean, it doesn't have all the stuff this gym has. Okay, how much to go to Total Body Fusion? So are you sitting down? Yeah. Apparently, I went to the website to have a look for the prices they don't have the prices on there you have to apply and then they said it's always a good sign yeah which is a great sign so roughly you and just keep in mind this is just for your base fee for a week is around 63 australian

dollars but if you want to add all those extra things in there, so like the wellness package, that's an additional $80 to $100, and then depending on how long your contract is for, it can be more. So if you want it to be a shorter contract, it's more. There's also a crèche there, multiple crèches for kids. So your kid can get some LED therapy? Yes, which is $5 per gym session. That's actually pretty good. Which is not bad.

So the top of the range spa and gym service package is about $250 a week, I believe. A week? A week. Wow. So $1,000 a month. Essentially. But I mean, you got everything there. If this gym could guarantee me results because

this is the thing is that 250 is going to make you any better at going to the gym is it going to make you any more ripped is it going to make you any more fit that you know i don't know am i more likely to go to my 250 gym than i am to go to my 26 gym or to go to my gym that I made from things off Trade Me in my garage you know what's the I mean I feel like the hook is all the extra things the extra things that would be quite fun I saw there was and the creche to be honest in the creche you know drop your kids off there just have an hour off by yourself you go down to the shops drop the kids off at the creche go Go and see the psychologist. Get an hour to yourself.

That's all you want. Okay. Well, not for me, but thanks. I mean, if I had an extra $250 a week, I probably wouldn't spend it on that anyway. No, spend it on my ZipPick. It's ZM's Brie and Clint podcast. We're live from Sydney because we're interviewing the cast of The White Lotus And The Last of Us this afternoon

Not nervous Nah Nah Just all the big stars Not nervous Not worried about making a dick of ourselves I think we were interviewing like 15 people You know what?

If we interviewed Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo Yeah We can interview anybody We've got this Piece of cake We've got this Patrick Schwarzenegger It's not yeah it's

not like it's arnie it's just like a peer of ours um i saw this post today from this guy who very bravely or very stupidly has gone on reddit to talk about how his wife can't cook oh this is dangerous but you need to know from the outset that this is a 50-50 cooking relationship. Okay. Okay? So they both cook. She just cooks really badly. Have a listen. He said, I've been with my wife for eight years, and the only real issue in our marriage

is that I fear she might one day commit food-based manslaughter. We split the cooking 50-50, but when she's on duty, I have to supervise her like a reality TV show judge. She undercooks everything, especially meat, and no amount of polite correction or Google convinces her otherwise. For rice, she uses the ratio of one to two, claiming it's too much water, so we crunch through our rice at dinner time. Pasta, veggies, bread, same story. i'd let it go if it was just me but she loves cooking for our friends as well who are attending fewer

dinners at our house as an act of self-preservation the tipping point for me was when she pulled chicken out of the oven after 10 minutes, claiming pan searing made it fine. Like a steak. That's salmonella waiting to happen. The sides were still pink, and I snapped. I said to her, you are going to kill somebody. She blamed her mum for never teaching her how to cook, and I said, probably too harshly, well, you're almost 30.

There's no excuse for not knowing how to cook. She's quite upset and I could have been nicer, but it's been eight years. How should I have approached this situation? Eight years of crap meals. I'd be pretty angry. Eight years of crunchy rice and raw chicken. The thing that worries me is that she obviously doesn't want to take feedback or no or change no you know like most of the time when people are bad cooks they know like me like

you yeah you're a horrible cook but i am a horrible cook and i and i but it's such a limited range as well i only think that is because it's by choice no it's not by choice i don't think you're naturally by lack of experience yeah by choice because my's not by choice I don't think you're naturally It's by lack of experience Yeah by choice Yeah because my wife won't let me in the kitchen And I will Oh here we go Here we go

She won't let me in She's like come on then She says men can't cook No I will side Well I won't side But I will offer an understanding olive branch to this person's wife Yeah

When I do cook And I go in the kitchen as a bad cook when my wife hovers over me like he needs to hover over her worst case scenario it's worst case scenario and i always get defensive when i'm doing something and she goes don't do it like that do it like this i always it always i always get really defensive like leave me alone i know what i'm doing i don't know but you don't i don't know i don't know what i'm doing because like her i want if i'm gonna cook i want to cook i'll be like hey i want you to have a night off cooking just let me cook she's like but then i'll have a night off eating then i'll have a night of children who won't eat their dinner so yeah

it's a catch-22 um i think his only solution is the same solution that worked for our relationship. Divorce. No. Oh, okay. He cooks 100% of the meals. Retire her from cooking. I mean, it's not a bad idea. He takes over that role and she can absorb something else.

Yeah, dishes like me. Yeah. I'm the king of the dishwasher. You don't even do the dishes. You put them in the dishwasher. No, I load it. I unload it. I scrub the ones that are too big to go do the dishes. You put them in the dishwasher. No, I load it. I unload it. I scrub the ones that are too big to go into the dishwasher.

Okay, we've got a system and it works. Hey, do what you know, I say. Stick to what you know. Stick to your knitting. It's ZM's Brinklin Podcast. I read something earlier today which I didn't know what it meant. So I was like, I need to fill my brain with knowledge. And it's a dating term.

And obviously you and I have been out of the dating game for a long while. Yeah, yeah. So this is, we need to keep up to date. Do we? Well, if you want to relate to the kids. If you want to be dateable once your partner leaves you. Exactly. You should always keep one toe in the dating pool.

If you stay ready, you don't need to get ready. Essentially the term is grey rock technique okay and think of it in the vein of when you start dating someone and you realize at a certain point like it's early days and you realize at a certain point oh they're not for me yeah instead of ghosting them you can gray rock technique them okay okay so unlike ghosting them, you can grey rock technique them. Okay. Okay? So unlike ghosting where you just stop talking to them all together, it's actually the opposite. Rather, you continue to talk to them but in a super dull and unexciting way. Oh.

So you phase them out. So you make yourself appear like a grey rock. Oh, you make them think that you're boring. Exactly. Oh, mean it's still manipulative isn't it it is it is but i feel like i'd rather this than totally being ghosted really yeah okay well let's let's talk because there's not there's an intermediary there's a medium point isn't there you just be honest with the person and you say hey i'm not really into this who's doing that yeah right stupid suggestion from me carry on hey we're just teach me to gray rock yeah this is out of gray really a moron so say you've been on a couple of dates and you realize okay this person's not for me um when they text you you just respond with something really dull. You don't offer anything.

Oh wow, that's cool. Ha ha ha. Thanks. Heart emoji. Heart emoji. Yes, you know where you double tap. Thumb up. Heart emoji. You know, don't ask any questions. You don't initiate conversations and eventually they reckon this technique will

make them believe that you're boring. And they're the bad guy for leaving you. Exactly. That you're boring. That you're boring. And they're the bad guy for leaving you. Exactly. Wow. I found a flaw in it though. What? What if the reason that you want to grey rock someone is because they are a grey rock.

Like they just are a grey rock boring person. There's nothing worse. And then you become a boring person to try and lose their interest. But they're like, oh my God. I found my perfect match i found my soul mate i found my matching rock there is there is uninterested in life as me you know is a massive flaw that is a massive flaw in the technique so again the option to be honest is always there but i understand that that's too hard and it's better just to find your way to

weasel your way out of any situation in life I think be manipulative Yeah, yeah, yeah It's always the What do they say? Lying is always the best policy Exactly Play Zeddy's Brie and Clint

Are you familiar with the term Life imitating art? Are you familiar with that? I've heard it Yeah I've never really thought much about it though In this example The Brie and Clint radio show is art

What we do is art. What we do is art. Who's calling it art? It's our art. It's our art. We pour our soul into this art every day. And just like real art, some people think it's shit. That's true.

You know? Some people like it. Some people would pay good money for it. Some people go, what the actual F is that? And guess what? Good news. You can not listen to it by the touch of a button. Like art. You can close your eyes.

You can close your ear holes. So we are art in this example. And life is what we are living right now. Not just last week we had a conversation on this show about people who ordered Uber Eats to the wrong location. Yes, we did. Bree and I landed here late yesterday in Sydney after a long flight. And we were like, we can't be bothered going out. We're going to get Uber Eats.

And me, who never orders Uber Eats, I said, let me. Yeah, why did you take the lead on this? Because I said to you, I've ordered Uber Eats about three times in my life. And I thought, no, this is the time. This is my opportunity to give it a go. Everybody raves about it. Why don't I give it a go? I'm going to step up here.

I'm going to step up and I'm going to get this done. Plus I've got Claudia's credit card and I really feel like punishing the shit out of it this weekend. You're such a hog of the card. Give me a turn. You can have a turn. I want you to use it. Sweet. We'll both use it.

I want you to use it as much as you can. Claudia is sitting back in the studio going, please don't. I want you to sign that credit card as you can Claudia's sitting back in the studio going Please don't Yeah, I want you to sign that credit card up To as many apps as you've got on your phone You need a new CapCut subscription? I'd love a new CapCut Claudia's your girl Yeah, thanks Claude

So I fire up the Uber Eats app And I'm like, wow, this is what it looks like I can't believe you've only used it like four times I felt like a boomer dad looking down my nose At the app I was like, oh, okay, I found some pizza and we could do this. Anyway, I put together an order for us. Sounded good to me.

I provided. I got the order ready to go. I got us a pizza and some chips and a can of Coke each. You neither hunted or gathered. I hunted and gathered. I did. You did neither. And then I went to put the order through and it said,

sorry, you can't get Uber Eats to your location. It's outside of the delivery area. And I said, why the hell would you show me these pizzas if I can't have them? And that's when I realized that exactly what we talked about last week on the show had happened to me. And the last time I ordered Uber Eats was 2019 when I was in Tauranga. Are you kidding me? And my address was still set to my friend's house in Tauranga. 2019.

The last time you ordered Uber Eats was before COVID. Yeah, correct. Yeah. Wow. It's not for me. Did your friend like the meal that you ordered? No, I got out at the last minute. I managed to get out.

No, we want to use the card. Order Uber Eats for everyone. Imagine he gets a pizza. He doesn't even live there anymore. I read something that I reckon will interest you because I feel like

you would love to be a millionaire one day. Yeah, but who wouldn't? Oh, do you reckon it's at the top of everyone's list? I think it's,

I know you and you would love to live the lavish life. No, I'd just like to retire. Yeah, well, I mean. I don't need to be lavish. Retiring, lavish. Retiring early.

I just don't want to have a boss. That's what it comes down to for me. I don't want a boss anymore. I feel like I'm on the same page as you. That would be nice. I don't want to have to do anything. Yeah, see, that sounds lovely. I don't need to be swanning off on private jets.

I just don't want anyone to say, hey, we need you to go and do this thing. And I want to be able to say, ah, suck it. I think that's a good goal. I read something which might interest you because it's 10 signs that a person might be a millionaire one day. Okay. Which would mean you get to retire earlier. Yeah. So do you want to hear them?

And do you want to check them off? See how many of these that you align with. Are we ready? So this is like astrology for millionaires. These are signs you're going to become a millionaire. I think there's more science to it. Oh, okay. More science in it.

Okay. So number one, so you check these off. There's a pen right there. Ready? Number one, you have a really strict morning routine. You're up at five. You're getting shit done. Yes, I do.

I'm up at six, but yes, it's strict. I reckon you can check yourself off for that one. Yeah. Number two, you learn from your failures. You look at it as an experience to gain something. I feel like I need to make the same mistake a few times. But yeah, I guess. I think so.

I'll give myself a half. Give yourself a half. Yeah. Number three, you're always the odd one out in conversations. When everyone else is talking about Netflix shows. Between you, me, Ella and Claudia, yes, I definitely feel like the odd one out in the conversation. Yeah, but I think that's just because you're in a room full of women.

Yeah. Yeah. So? You can have half. Okay. I think it more means you're thinking about business propositions. No, I'm not that douchebag. And, you know, compound returns and stuff.

You're talking about Chapel Row and I'm thinking about growth. No, that's not how I operate. Number four, you don't watch TV. Oh, no, I watch a lot of TV. Okay, so you don't get one for that. We're literally here to interview stars from TV shows that we're watching. I feel like I would get minus five for that one. The next one, they value time more than money.

So you would rather, oh, you do have a cleaner now. You have a cleaner, which means you value more time. Yeah, I value time over money. I'd rather have free time. Like I said to you at the start, I'd like to be retired, not wealthy. Yeah. So I reckon you definitely get one for that. They always have a side hustle. You do. I do. You do. That's good. Yeah. You're always pitching business ideas. I'm not. No, I hate that. Yeah. Okay. No points there. You're unapologetically

cheap. No, I'm not. I don't think you're cheap. You're obsessed with efficiency. I am. I think you have to be when you're a parent. Yeah, you are. So you get one for that. And the last one, you can't stop nerding out over money chat. I do enjoy listening to you. You love talking to me about your shares, these apps, and whatever you're doing.

I did have a conversation with someone the other day about that Barefoot Investor book. Again. That is literally one of the examples they give. So how many out of 10, out of the signs someone will be a millionaire? Let's see what you got. I got one, two, three, four, five, and two halves. So I got six.

It's more than half percent. It's more than 50%. So what does that mean? You're 60% likely to become a millionaire. I'm going to become 60% of a millionaire. So you'll retire at 60. Yeah. Shit!