ZM's Bree & Clint - ZM's Bree & Clint Podcast - 23rd April 2026

Episode Date: April 23, 2026

How long should a voice note be?  Clint's Whistle-Off.  We need to talk to Producer Ella about something...  Small talk training doesn't go the way we planned.  See omnystudio.com.../listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Show requested, so here it is. As long as you've got da-da-da-da. It's Zat-M's Brean-Klin podcast. Zat M's Brean-Klin, thanks to KFC. The Zinga-Stinger is here for a good time, not a long time at KFC. Z-Ams, Breanclin, there's no raise I'd rather be. What's going on, everybody? Welcome to another Brean-Klin show.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Unfortunately, we don't, unfortunately, we don't have Brie with us today, which is a shame, but she will be back on deck tomorrow. She's all good. She's just not here today. We got some fun stuff on the way for you guys. I didn't realize this, but we're giving away tickets to see Charlie Puth. The Puthster. The Puthmeister.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Puth in the booth. And the way we're going to do that is we're going to play a Charlie Puth song. So not only are you listening for your Olivia Dean track of the day, I've decided you're listening for your Charlie Puth track of the day too, which is any Charlie Puth song because we're not playing a lot of them. So it'll stand out. So when you hear Charlie Puth, first Puth, through, oh, 800 dials at him.
Starting point is 00:01:05 You can have two free tickets to see the Puthmeister live. Gonna do that after 5 o'clock. You're Olivia Dean track of the day. I know you're a busy person, and I know you're doing your best to listen 24-7. So I want to make that a bit easier for you as well. Let alone the one you love, the Olivia Dean track of the day,
Starting point is 00:01:22 which if you hear it and get through, could get you to Los Angeles to see her live. I'm going to play that between 4.30 and 5, Olivia Dean between 430 and 5 okay to sit yourself a little alarm In fact I'll do it for you
Starting point is 00:01:38 Hey Siri See an alarm for 430 called Listen to ZM Did that work Claudia? Yeah it's gonna go off 430 thanks a lot Yeah Very good
Starting point is 00:01:52 And lots of other stuff going on too Including roast or toast Free Tickets to the Roast of Brean Clint That's all coming up later But first things first Trady versus Lady Ladies, update score 32. Trades update score 26.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Who's got it today? If you think you are feeling quick and bright and clever, today could be your day. So pick up the phone. 0,800 dials at them. There's 50 bucks cash. Thanks to KFC up for grabs. In today's round of Trady versus Lady,
Starting point is 00:02:20 which we will play straight after this. Play Zatins, Bree and Clint. This is the main event. Trady versus Ladies. We're short one Bree Thomasdale today, so I'll need some help to keep the scores, but we'll get it done. It's 26 tradies, 32 ladies. Our lady is calling from Queensland. She's 34, and she loves mountain biking.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Welcome to the show, Yaya. Hello. How you doing, Yaya? Yeah, I'm very good, very nervous. Is it freezing in Queensland right now? Because I'm in Auckland and it's Auckland freezing. It's freezing, probably. But it's sunny.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Do you know what temperature around about it is in Queensland? because we're freezing here in Auckland and I think it's about 12 degrees. It's 11 here. Oh, okay. Oh, not too bad. But there's snow in the mountain, so it feels colder. Yeah, yeah, okay. You're taking on our trady today from Christchurch.
Starting point is 00:03:16 They are 27 and they're having a baby in August. Their first child, please welcome to the show, our tradie, Ethan. Good day, Ethan. Hello. How you doing? How you going? Yeah, good. Good.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Are you getting in Super Round this weekend before baby arrives and you're on lockdown? Yeah. Yeah, I've got the weekend. You're a chiefs man, right? That's what I heard you were saying. No, definitely not. Chiefs mana. Chiefs money. Chiefs hard. Chiefs all day, right? Nah, not for me. Well, sorry about the horses then. Ethan, your buzzer is Trady.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Yeah, yeah, it's lady. The first team to three correct answers gets that $50 cash from KFC. Here we go. Question number one. Oh, and look, it's about what we just talked about. Super Rugby Super Round kicks off in Christchurch tomorrow at the brand new stadium. Name that stadium. Trade it. Ethan? One New Zealand
Starting point is 00:04:05 Stadium. I would have accepted that, or Tecaha, both would have done. Seems rigged. But they weren't. I wrote those questions before we got the people, I promise. Question number two. Kaylee Rose Amstutz is the real name of which pop star? Is it Lady Gaga?
Starting point is 00:04:22 Chapel Rhone or Billy Elish? Lady. Yeah. Yeah? Billy Alish. No. Free guess, Ethan? Chapel Rone. Chabell Ron.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Two points, Trades. Yeah, yeah, you need this one, okay? Yeah. Buzzin hard. As soon as you get a whiff, you buzz in hard. Who sings this song? Ethan's in there. Justin Timberlake?
Starting point is 00:04:50 It's a Trady Down Trow. Ethan, can I get a Chief's money and you can have $50 cash thanks to KSA? You can't do it. Oh, we'll give it to Yaya then. Yeah, I'm taking. Yeah. I can't do the Chief's money. Surely you've got a chief smother in you.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Nah, not for me. I'll get in trouble. Yeah, you will. Oh, I can't take the money off you. You still get it. And yeah, yeah, we're going to find you some KFC chicken dollars because I know you were nervous and I think you did a great job. So we'll sort you out too.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Thank you for that. No worries. Trades get a much needed win. They're on 27. The ladies stay on 32. Zat-Ams Bree and Clint Podcast. We need to settle an important topic, which I feel like has been plaguing the group chats for a long time.
Starting point is 00:05:37 even the group chats, the one-on-one chats. What is the maximum permissible length of a voice note? At what point does a voice note stop being a bit more convenient for you and start being a whole lot more inconvenient for the person that you send it to? I know you maybe have an idea in your mind. There's a number that comes to everybody's mind straight away. I guarantee you, it's not as long as the voice note that our producer Claudia received yesterday. Yeah, it came out of the blue as well. So it wasn't like a reply to anything. The first message in the chat. What? Cold?
Starting point is 00:06:10 Yeah. Okay. It was a cold voice note. I feel like it deserves this. I feel like, because I know the number. Yeah. And I feel like it does deserve this. Can we have context?
Starting point is 00:06:18 Who's the person? It's a group chat of old school friends. So this went to the whole group. Yeah. How big is the group? Five people. Five people. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Claudia, how long was the voice note that went to your five-person group chat? Nine minutes and 23 seconds. A-e-ex-squeez me? Excuse me? Exquis-me? What? Did anyone listen to that? I assume there's two people that I can guarantee did.
Starting point is 00:06:43 This is not a joke. We put out shorter podcasts than that. Such a good point. The Bree and Clint Show Daily release shorter podcasts than that one voice note that that person did. And that's just them. It was a one-way conversation. I'm almost impressed that somebody can talk to themselves for nine minutes. Maybe they need a podcast.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Like even when Bree's away, I need to talk to you guys. That person, that wasn't meant to be an insight. Even us. God, okay. I did start listening to it though. Yeah, that was going to ask, did you listen to it? I listened to a third of it. And in the first, I'd say, the first 30 seconds, he went, among other things.
Starting point is 00:07:21 He? He? Yes. I 100% assumed that it was a woman. No. Why did you think it was a woman? I don't know. My bias, I guess. In the first 30 seconds, among other things that he was saying, he said,
Starting point is 00:07:32 I don't really have anything to talk about. And then went on for another nine minutes. I know you didn't listen to the whole thing, but in the four minutes you listened to, were there large pauses? No. It was continual. There was no pauses.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Nine minutes continuous. He was talking about his partner's family and explaining in great depth all the family members and then went, oh, actually you guys don't know these people. I'll move on. Oh, my God. And it was like a life update. It was real cute.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Life hack for anyone who might not realize this. Did you know that you can play voice notes, At least on Facebook Messenger, you can play voice notes at 1.5 and at 2 times. Did you put the fast speed on? So at 2 times, I'll still take 4.5 minutes. Correct. Damn. Correct.
Starting point is 00:08:15 It'd be twice as fast and still just as boring. God. Okay, so I think we all agree, 9 minutes is too long. Yeah, that's definitely on too long. 9 minutes is off the table straight away. Two things I want to ask people that are listening right now. 966 or 0800 dials at them, the maximum length of, a voice note that you're willing to listen to
Starting point is 00:08:36 what is your number what's the maximum for you and also can you contribute to this what's the longest voice note you've ever received because does it cut you off eventually it does surely it's not more than 10 minutes I was going to say 10 but it could go to half an hour I would have thought five until you received the nine and a half shall I send you one and you can listen to the whole thing
Starting point is 00:08:56 yeah yeah you you send me a 10 minute voice note and then give me the weekend to digest it and then quiz me on its contents next week I will and I'll put the juiciest bit at the end. I'll do one too. You'll have 20 minutes. 96.96. 0.800 at M.
Starting point is 00:09:10 How long, what's the maximum length you will allow a voice note to be? And also, supplementary question, what's the longest voice note you ever received? And who is it from? Dead is Franklin. We are settling in important debate, though. What is the maximum permissible length of a voice note after our producer Claudia was assaulted with a nine and a half minute voice note? which she didn't listen to the whole thing, which is fair enough.
Starting point is 00:09:36 But how do you know there wasn't something in the back half about you? You know? That's the good point. It's interesting when they start talking about you. I assume that one of the others would have told me. Yeah. No, that's assuming that what the others listen to it as well. True.
Starting point is 00:09:49 So we're asking what's the longest you feel a voice note can be? And also, what's the longest voice note you've ever received? Lydia's here. Hi, Lydia. Hello. What's your opinion, Lydia? Do you vibe a voice note? or do you hate them all together?
Starting point is 00:10:03 I'm such a voice note queen. I love a voice note. And I used to have long drives home from work at not. And my boyfriend once sent me a voice note that was 14 minutes and something. I don't remember exactly what it was. So that proves that you can break the 10 minute barrier. That's what we were wondering how long they can be. You got a 14.
Starting point is 00:10:25 So my question is, why didn't your boyfriend just ring you? Why didn't you guys just have a phone call? It was late. He was asleep by the time I finished work. Oh, right. So you guys couldn't call. So you leave it to the long. Yeah. Okay. And did you send it? I thought it was cool and like unique. And then it was like best of both words. I got to hear about his day and he got to his sleep that he needed. And while you're driving, I guess it's nice. I get that. I get that. Yeah. Did you send a 14 minute voice note back?
Starting point is 00:10:52 Probably. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty close to 14. Okay. All right. You're pro the voice. So what's the maximum length? You reckon? No maximum. I think under 20. Oh, the 20 is too long. 20 minutes. Okay, Lydia, thank you very much. Let's go to Vanessa on 0-800-000.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Hey, Ness. Hi. Tell me about your voice note experience. What are you thinking? So, me and my long-distance best day, who's in Africa. I'm in Auckland. We just got into a habit of messaging each other every day.
Starting point is 00:11:25 And we get up to, like, it could be like 16, 17, 17, 19 minutes. Yeah. This is a podcast about our lives. Again, why don't you just have a phone call? Just because our schedules don't quite line up and it's just we can message whenever we like. We go on the school drop off. Do you listen to the whole message at once
Starting point is 00:11:43 or will you listen to a bit and then go away and come back to it? Sometimes if I'm stuck in traffic, otherwise definitely have to break it up a little bit. Yeah, right. This is blowing my mind. I thought people would think the nine-minute thing was the upper maximum. But you're up to 17 minutes with your voice notes. Yeah, nine minutes isn't easy. listen to me.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Okay, so what's your cut off? Lydia said maximum 20. What do you think? Yeah, I would say about that too. Might have to be broken up into two. This is not what I was expecting. Thank you, Vanessa. Page is here.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Hi, Paige. Hi, how are you? I'm good. What's your opinion on the voice notes page? How long can they be? Maximum. I reckon there's no limit. No limit.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Well, I once got one that was 45 minutes. On what app? Because we got a message from someone saying it cuts off at 30. This is on Snapchat. You can do a 45-minute Snapchat. Yeah. God, can you imagine the data that would cost to download?
Starting point is 00:12:42 That's outrageous. Because me and my long-distance boyfriend at the time, the time zones and our schedules never lined up. Yeah. So we would always just send voice notes about our day. Yeah, yeah. When we woke up or when we went to bed, we could listen to each other and see how the other person's day was. I get that. That's nice.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Are you Gen Z page? I am. I was born in 2006. Can I just poll our Gen Z panel? We've got producer Ella and Brooke from the night show out there. Are you guys pro voice note? And are you vibing a 45 minute voice note? Are you down with that? Pro voice note for sure.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I've done probably three, four minutes. Wouldn't be surprised if I've done max five. Whenever Ella voice notes me, she always opens it with it. Sorry, I know you hate a long voice note. And it's like 48 seconds. I know. You've given me the rule no longer than a minute. So I have to stick to a minute with you.
Starting point is 00:13:29 But 45 minutes is crazy. That's like an episode of a TV show Okay, Brooke G&D panel voice note Be filled with the most hottest piping team I'm not listening to 45 minutes if the kicker Paige was it 45 minutes of juicy juicy juice? No, it was just random shit that happened Oh sorry, I'm in my language.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Nah, she sounds like she'd put a good 45 minute voice note together. Yeah, we're really split And I'm wondering if we're split down generational lines here because people are like a 26 minute voice note. I love them. Me and my besties send 20 minute voice notes all the time. And then others that are going, none. I hate voice notes.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Longest voice note I'll listen to is two minutes 30. I will say it's very easy to hit two minutes 30. If you're a yapper, it is very easy to hit two minutes 30. So me personally, five minutes. Claudia, you'll cut off time. We haven't managed to reach a conclusion, by the way, but Claudia, your maximum link. I'll happily do two.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Five at a push. Two minutes. Yeah. Yeah, all right. I ain't got time for that. I love a voice note though. All right. Yeah. Send them my way.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Solid 90 seconds. Delicious. If you can hit it in 90 seconds. Wow. Yeah, that's a vibe. All right. ZDames, Brian Clint. This is the tea.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Right, White Lotus season four. What do we know? This is a real TV event, the White Lotus, when it comes out, when they reveal the cast, when they reveal the location. And we are being dripped. fed a bit of information about season four, including the location. What have we had?
Starting point is 00:15:04 We had Thailand. We had Italy. Where was season one of White Lotus set? Does anybody remember? I haven't seen it, but was it Bali? Could have been, but no, I don't feel like they would have gone Bali and then Thailand. Where was season one? Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Hawaii, that's right, and I had Sydney-Sweeney on it, amongst others. So season four will be in Khan on the French Rwrench Rwry. Riviera, which is Ula-la. It has to be Ula-Lah. It's a show about rich people doing bad things. So that's where it's happening. But who will be in it? They always get an incredible cast,
Starting point is 00:15:39 and we already know that they have an incredible cast for this one, because it's led by Helena Bonham Carter from Sweeney Todd and every other Tim Burton movie ever. She's amazing. She'll be great on this. Steve Coogan is on this season of White Lotus as well. Steve Coogan is Ellen Perman. Hartridge, amongst other very funny comic roles you will have seen him in.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Chris Messina, who you'll know from the Mindy Project and Sharp Objects as well. Plus, there is a Kiwi connection to this season of the White Lotus. We had Morgana O'Reilly last season, this season, Caleb Jonti Edwards, who plays Ash James on Shortland Street, is in the cast of the White Lotus, which is huge. And so cool, I wonder what the Kiwi connection is. I wonder if they have like a talent scout down here, or if Morgana was just a... So crack up, they were like, we have to get more Kiwis in there. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:32 But that's what we know about season four of White Lotus. They are shooting it now. So I reckon we get it early next year. But nobody knows. And that's the T. This is for the good whistlers out there. And I said before, if you are a good whistler, stick around. Because it could finally win you a prize.
Starting point is 00:16:50 When was the last time good whistling got you anywhere, right? Not even many songs have whistling in them anymore. Lots of songs used to have whistling in them, didn't they? They really did. Sitting on the dock of the bay, isn't there like a big whistling part of that? That's your go-to? The whistling solo. What's your whistling song in your mind?
Starting point is 00:17:06 The inappropriate one. What one? Oh, blow my whistle, baby. Oh, okay, you say it. Yeah. That's all right. I don't want to get in trouble. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:16 That one. Nice one. This person is one of the world's best whistlers, and he was invited to perform the national anthem ahead of a baseball game in America. Four-time whistling champion and member of the Whistling Hall of Fame, Chris Ollman, who will now honor our nation with his rendition of our star
Starting point is 00:17:34 Spangled banner. He's got trills in there. You guys don't look that impressed. I'm just laughing at the big breath that he had. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a big nose. You're in the presence of greatness here. This man is a member of the
Starting point is 00:18:18 Whistling Hall of Fame. Is there a more annoying Hall of Fame to be a member of? Yeah, it's quite, um, piercing. Here's the big finish. We've got to go to the big finish. Okay. Oh, no, it's not here yet.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Okay, here it is. Here it is, here it is. Okay, go for it. Go for it. Yeah, we've got to applaud that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well done. You know that impressed, Ella.
Starting point is 00:18:57 So I want to hear you right now on the spot. I want to hear you whistle the New Zealand National Anthem. Oh, okay. Are you ready? Are you ready? Yeah, I can give you a backing track. Okay. Yeah, but I'm going to, it's going to be mostly you.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Oh, okay. But I'm going to give you backing track. You ready? The lips are moistened Three, two, one New Zealand National Anthem, go No, you can't giggle It's a bit flat
Starting point is 00:19:24 What you are learning live Is that you can't smile and whistle at the same time No, you can't I just want to sing it Claudia, you take over Here she goes It's too high I'll take over
Starting point is 00:19:45 Oh, it is high, yeah. Am I the best one? Now are you impressed by that other guy? Yeah, I still think it's pretty well. I won. Here we go, big note, guys. Are you ready? All of us.
Starting point is 00:20:00 It was quite high. I was doing the Māori version. Me too. Me too. You can tell, yeah. You can tell. Here's my challenge for you guys listening, for the good whistlers listening.
Starting point is 00:20:27 My challenge is, call up and whistle a popular song. If I can guess, the song that you are whistling, you're going to score a prize this afternoon. Could be 50 KFC chicken dollars, could be anything, okay? But I need to be able to guess it. You need to be so good at whistling the song, preferably a song that's a big song. A song that ZM plays, like a classic, something like that. If I can guess it, you win a prize.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Could be great. Could be some of the worst radio we've ever done. There's only one way to find that out. The ZM Podcast Network. Welcome to a good old-fashioned whistle off. We just heard from a member of the Whistling Hall of Fame who whistled the Star Spangled Banner and nobody was impressed.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Nobody in this room was impressed. But I don't think you appreciate how good, how hard good whistling is. So I've opened the Whistling Hall of Fame to some people who claim to be good whistlers and their challenge, whistle a song that I can guess. And if you do, you'll win 50 KFC chicken dollars this afternoon. Paul is on the line.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Paul. Hello, Clint. How are you? Big whistler, Paul. I've been known to whistle a little bit over the years. All right, I'm going to give you the floor. I want you to whistle, preferably the chorus.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Don't do a long build-up for me. Of a song that you think I'll know, and if I can guess it, you win KFC, okay? All right, let's go. All right, let's do it, Paul. Oh, he's a good whistler. Oh, my God. This guy's incredible.
Starting point is 00:22:18 I know it. I know this. I can hear it. There's no fault on you. I can hear it. Call you. me a clue of, because I know what it is. I know the tune.
Starting point is 00:22:26 He's nailed it. A movie franchise. Do do, do do do. Is it Star Wars? No. The other multiscerous. You're a wizard. Oh, it's the Harry Potter theme.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Is it the Harry Potter theme? There's Harry Potter. Very good, Paul. You win free KFC. Congratulations. Thank you. You genuinely, can I just say before you go, you genuinely are a very good whistler.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Oh, thank you. You had the warbles in there as well. It was amazing. Let's go to Kim on a good-fashioned whistle-off. Welcome to the whistle-off, Kim. Hi. Hi. You reckon you're as good as Paul?
Starting point is 00:23:12 I'm not sure. I've been singing for a lot. Sorry, whistling for a long time. Okay. Like professionally? No. I'm just old. They don't get you up in bars to whistle to people or when they can't get a band?
Starting point is 00:23:26 No, no, I sing. You sing. Okay. All right, so you can hold a tune then. Hopefully. Okay, Kim, the floor is yours. When you're ready, whistle away. I'm going to see if I can guess what song it is you're whistling.
Starting point is 00:23:38 All right. Oh, we've got an issue with the phone line on, Kim. Sorry? Kim, I'm going to need you to whistle directly into the phone. I think your phone might be muting it, thinking that it's wind. Go on. Oh, okay, hang on. I'm just going to turn my car off completely.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Okay, all right. Hear me now? Yeah, I can hear you now. Can you hear me? Yes. Okay, let's do it. Let's do it, Kim. Go for it.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Oh, the technology's doing Kim dirty here. Oh. We're going to come back to Kim. We're going to go back to Kim. Let's carry on with the whistle off. That won't stop us, okay? Let's go to Renee. Hi, Renee.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Hello. Now, you're not on a car speaker or anything, are you? No. No. Okay, you whistle a song if I guess that you win free KFC. Take it away. Okay, do you want the chorus or do you want me to start it from the beginning? Whatever you think is the most recognizable part.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Do that bit. Okay, yeah. Okay, go for it. Pink Pony Club, Chapel Rhone. Yeah. Bloody good, Renee. You've won free KFC as well, and the whistle off. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Very good. So that's the other trick is go for something just so impossible to get wrong, and then you win. Dominique's here. Dominique? Hey, Keota, Clint. Kiota, Big Whistler, Dominique? Yeah, I've been whistling since I was little. I like whistling to the birds and that.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Do you? Can you do a bird call? Like, do they ever try and back? Can you do like a to-y or anything? A bit of a... Oh! Yeah, that's like national radio with the bird calls, isn't it? All right, Dominique, when you're ready,
Starting point is 00:25:33 whistle a tune that you think I can guess and you could win free KFC. So it is. It's the Fuji's in Killing Me Softly. Yeah, let's go. God, how was it, how good was the reverb on Dominique's whistle? Are you in a bathroom? Yeah, I thought I come in the butt room
Starting point is 00:26:03 and sound a bit better. Bro, you are a professional. That really gave a depth to the whistle that I appreciated it. Oh, yeah, thank you. Yeah, free KFC coming your way as well. Oh, me, thank you for that. Don't tell the Tui's.
Starting point is 00:26:17 I'm thoroughly impressed with that. I'm gutted that we didn't get to hear Kim's whistle, but it just wasn't quite coming through, was it? It was not quite coming through, but I don't doubt that she has a good whistle on her. Well, there you go. Don't let anybody tell you that your whistle.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Wrestling skills are useless. Yes, producer Ella? I reckon we do that again. That was fun. We need Brie here for it. The good old-fashioned whistle-off. Yeah, that's good radio. Bree would take it so seriously, too.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Yeah, she's competitive. There's not a challenge we've ever done, which she hasn't tried to fight me to the death of. So, yeah, we'll do a whistle off with Bree. It's ZAM's Bree and Clint podcast. Bree is off today, but both of our wonderful producers are here. And we need to have a talk specifically. with our producer Ella.
Starting point is 00:27:04 God. Hi Ella. You don't know what this is about, do you? No, I saw this on the sheet. We need to talk to Ella. Dot, dot, dot. We do. And Claudia does know what this is about.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Claudia, you would agree we need to talk to Ella. Yeah, you definitely need to talk to her. My heart is beating so fast. It's a couple of things that have happened today in the last few days that I know you're aware of. What do you think the thing is that we need to talk about? Then I'm bad at emailing people. What's the email thing?
Starting point is 00:27:30 Oh, is that not it? Why, what's the email thing? Oh, I just need an email. Did you get in trouble for not reading your emails? Yeah. It's not that. What? Now I just added myself.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Okay, not that. What else do you think it is? I don't know. Did you get me a dog? I asked for a dog. No, I didn't get you a dog. Oh, okay. I really don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I'm not going to get you a dog out of nowhere. It's not how dogs work. No? My phone's not working. Ella. Yeah. The Billy. Ilish movie is about to hit cinemas in New Zealand.
Starting point is 00:28:07 On the 5th of May, would you like to attend the New Zealand premiere of the Billy Irish film in 3D? Yes. For those that don't know, I don't know if there is a bigger Billy Irish fan. Okay, this is a good thing. Then our producer Ella. Yes, I would love to go to the premiere. I got Ella the Billy Irish perfume for.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Christmas one year and you would have think that I did get her a puppy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh. The 3D concert film for Hit Me Hard and Soft is that one that shot by James Cameron who did Frickin Avatar and I talked about to him about it
Starting point is 00:28:53 when I interviewed him last year and he said he just popped out for a bit. He didn't ask the film company and just went and made the Billy Irish film, yeah. Oh my gosh. So it's that one. Do you want to go? I have a ticket for you if you want to go. Yeah, will you come with me? Well, that's the catch you have to go with me.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Oh, that's fine. Oh, you're fine with that. Yeah. Oh, great. I thought that was going to be the downside, because I got the tickets and I get a plus one. So if you want to go, you can... I'll be your plus one.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Oh, you just taking... Bring me along just to film content for you. No, I'm actually genuinely trying to do something nice. Okay. I mean, I did do this horrible prank on you, which gave you anxiety for the last two and a half hours about this thing. Literally. No, no, it is just a gift.
Starting point is 00:29:33 That's very kind. Can I come too? Oh. We can fight for it if you want. Nah, you can have it. I'll get the dog. Yeah, Claudia, I got you. I'll get you a dog.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Yay! Thank you. A ZM's Breedclin podcast. Did you guys know that we're getting another streaming service? We're getting another streaming service. How many is that now? Like 24? I think it's like 48.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Oh, like 57. I think it's about 14012. Oh, that's it, 1412. So what do we got? We've got neon, Netflix, Netflix, Apple, Disney, Amazon. Hulu's in Disney. Oh, it's too. Disney's quite good.
Starting point is 00:30:19 It's got heaps of them in them. Disney's got Hulu, Disney and... Star Wars. Something else. Harry Potter. Star? Is it Star? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Oh, you're Star. Disney Star, yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, very good, very good. There's other ones that I'm missing, too, because I know that every month when I check my credit card bill I said to my wife, wait, we don't have Apple TV, do we? She goes, oh yeah, there was something I wanted to watch.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Literally, I realize I'm spending $70 a month on streaming services. None of us used to have Sky. I remember when I was at school, only the rich kids had Sky. And then everyone was like, just get Netflix, bruh. It's only $14 or something. And then you don't have to have Sky. And now, slowly but surely, we have more streaming services than ever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:02 And it costs more than Sky. And you're like, it's easy to forget, though. That's where I'm wearing. It just rolls over. I also, my other streaming service is SkySport. I pay for that one. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah, and I love that one.
Starting point is 00:31:13 That's kind of my non-negotiable, that one. The other ones I can sort of take and leave, tune in for a bit, tune out of, tune out of, tune in for a bit. Anyway, we're getting HBO Max. Which is the new one we're getting. Wasn't that with neon? Yes. So poor neon.
Starting point is 00:31:26 This is where it gets controversial. Yeah. So on June 16, we get HBO Max, which is going to take a lot of the really good shows that are currently on neon. They're going to take White Lotus. I was going to say. We talked about White Lotus before. If you want to watch the next season of White Lotus, you're going to have to have HBO
Starting point is 00:31:40 Max. They're going to take The Pit. No. Which, I mean, that season of the Pit that we just watched. Have you finished it yet? Yes. Babi Jan Dow. Babi Jan Dal.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Babi Jan Dal. That's going over the new Harry Potter TV series that they're working on. Of course. That's HBO Max. Euphoria? Euphoria. Last of Us. Last of us.
Starting point is 00:32:05 The Wire, Succession, the Penguin, Game of Thrones, all the Game of Thrones. And I imagine the Game of Thrones spin off, like... House of the Dragon. Dragon, Dragon, or whatever it's called, House of the Dragon, sorry. I'm not a game of Throne. Dragon on the throne. Dragon, Mar, Dragon, across your... It all goes to HBO Max.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Holy Eaggers. And old stuff too. friends, Rick and Wardy. They're doing a... I have no idea who asked for this, but they are doing a new spinoff of the Big Bang theory. Oh, that was me.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I asked for that. Oh, you're the person who asked for that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was Young Sheldon not enough for you? No, I need more. See, Young Sheldon has its own spinoffs. Young Sheldon has a spinoff. Doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:32:54 Georgie and his brother? Or am I thinking of something else? Maybe like they were about to work on it? Is, is... The Big Bang Theory are multiverse. I think so. Are there infinite spin-offs of the Big Bang Theory? And the Big Bang Theory was the Avengers.
Starting point is 00:33:08 They were all together. Is there a Big Bang Theory timeline where the guy is hot and the girl is a nerd? You've gone too far. Yeah. Yeah, you really have. Anyway, chuck it on the pile. How much? Do you know how much?
Starting point is 00:33:26 Get a paper. No, no pricing yet. What's one more? At this date. In this economy? At this stage? What's one more? What's one more?
Starting point is 00:33:34 What's one more? Hmm. Oh, and you're on YouTube premium too, aren't you, Ella? Well, I wasn't going to be. That one counts. Yeah. Anyway, there you go. That's the hot goss.
Starting point is 00:33:44 I just bringing you the news, okay? Don't, I don't make the rules. I just bring you the news. Play Z-Ems, Bree and Clint. No, what food for the celiacs going forward is a news story out today that, unfortunately, they're changing the recipe of peanut M&Ms, which up until now were gluten-free. I know, but no longer, I know.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Boo! Bo! Let the celiacs have peanut M&Ms. Life's hard enough. People really do sympathise with celiacs, I feel. Well, anybody with dietary issues. But celiacs in particular, life is so hard. I have a friend who is properly celiac and we'll go to a pub and I'll be like, oh, two beers.
Starting point is 00:34:29 And he's like, no, I can't drink beer. I'm like, oh, of course. So he has a gin. tonic even though he really wants a beer. And they're like, oh, get us some fries and he'll go, only if you're willing to ask the bar if the fries are cooked in a special gluten-free friar. They have to have two friars.
Starting point is 00:34:43 So he can't even have the bloody potato chips. So, yeah, there's, I won't go into, I won't bore you with the details, but there's a certain malt extract that's in there or some cross-contamination from wheat in the peanut M&Ms, which means, bye-bye. So what's the food like that that got taken away from you? Either because they changed the recipe, and it doesn't agree with you anymore, or your body just decided out of nowhere, like my friend Matt and tomato sauce,
Starting point is 00:35:11 we don't eat that anymore, bro. I'm your body and we don't get to have that anymore. Sorry. Lynette is here. Good evening, Lynette. Hey, how are you? Well, what's the food that got taken away from you, Lynette? All peanuts and all other nuts.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Did you develop a peanut allergy later in life? Yeah, when I was 20. God. What happens to you? What happens you have you eat a peanut, Lynette? Anaphylaxis. Like my throat closes up. I come out and hives.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Can you die? Yeah, yeah. I've been told quite a few times that I can't do it because I will die. God. And there's peanuts and more things than you realize, isn't there, Lynette? Yeah, and I grew up on smooth peanut butter. That was my favourite. Do you reckon you OD'd on it as a kid maybe?
Starting point is 00:35:57 Possibly. But it's the worst because I know that I liked them. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what I'm going to slip, you're like a recovering peanut addict who just can't have them. You can't even have one.
Starting point is 00:36:09 You can't even, you can't let yourself. It's not good. Thanks, Lynette. We appreciate it. Taylor's here. Hi, Taylor. Hi. What's the food that got taken away from you?
Starting point is 00:36:18 Cruely ripped from you, Taylor. Mine's cherry. Cherries? Yeah. I had no issues having cherries or anything. Cherry related my entire life. Yeah. And then I got pregnant
Starting point is 00:36:32 with my first child. Now I can't have cherries and the same as a previous caller like anaphylaxis. Anaphylaxis from a cherry. God. Like devastated eight years later because in summertime it's like cherry season and I can't have any.
Starting point is 00:36:48 You know what Bree's mom got us for Christmas this year, Taylor? A whole crate of cherries. Well, can't relate. I know. Sorry about it. That's the hormones, eh? That's the pregnancy hormones thing, eh?
Starting point is 00:37:00 It changes your whole fricking body. Yeah, absolutely. Yes, I know, pretty gutted for my part, but that's alright. Those goddamn kids. Can you have those, are they called glass cherries? What are the fake jelly cherries? Can you have those? I haven't tried. I'm too scared to. Don't risk it. I can't, like, I can't hold like a cherry juice. Like, nothing with cherries in it.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Like, it just, yeah, it's just not worth dying. Boo! It's not worth dying. No, not over a cherry. Thanks, Taylor. Someone said cabri cream eggs. I used to love them when I was a kid. I had one last week. and it was 40 minutes on the toilet. Off one Cadbury cream egg. Is that what it would do to you, Ella?
Starting point is 00:37:40 You know how you said you don't have the cheese because of the dairy, which is weird because you're vegan anyway, so why are you eating cheese? I had a bit of drinkies. Do you know what's in things? Because you know how you said you don't eat cheese because you're trying to be gluten-free?
Starting point is 00:37:53 No, I'm not trying. I'm just vegan, so I don't eat cheese. And you're vegan, but you eat cheese? Yeah. Do you know what's in thing? Yeah, I just got mixed up and I was trying to be like, yeah, yeah, I relate to that.
Starting point is 00:38:03 But no, I just had some drinkies, and I was like, well, I better be a safe girl and have some free cheese pizza. You should have had some gluten is what you should have had. Yeah, I guess so. Someone said, oh, this is devastating. My husband can't have bacon anymore because his body decided out of nowhere that he's allergic to nitrates. Also, a lot of supermarket pies and sausage rolls as well. You lost bacon pies and sausage rolls overnight. God, that is a tough hand to be dealt.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Someone said they can't have coffee anymore. Imagine finding out that you're allergic to coffee. You'd have to get on the, what's everybody having now, the white monster. Have you seen how many people are drinking white monster, Claudia? First thing in the morning? Yes. Oh. Start their day with a white monster.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Oh, I could never. A bagel and a white monster at the day. Anyway, thanks for your messages, everybody. We appreciate it. We're going to do a fresh round of birthday bangers next. If you would like to know the number one song on the day that you turned 16 years old, we can do that for you this afternoon. We've had some great birthday bangers this week.
Starting point is 00:39:10 ZD.M.'s Bree and Clint Podcast. Inclient. All I want with my birthday is a birthday banger. This is birthday where we find out the number one song in your 16th birthday. We do three of them, and the best one wins and gets played out in full. TJ's going to go first. Evening, TJ. How are you going?
Starting point is 00:39:28 Good. How's your day, Be? T.J. Fabulous. Fabulous. Fabulous. Okay. What's your day to birth,
Starting point is 00:39:35 teach? Let's do your birthday banger. 16th April, 1986. Okay. By my math, that means you were 16th of April 2002 and on that day, this was the number one song.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Shakira, what do you reckon? I mean, it's not too bad. It's not too bad. I think it's a very good birthday banger. From Shakira, Shakira, we're never, wherever. Wait there, we're going to do Journey's birthday banger. Hi, Journey. Hi, guys.
Starting point is 00:40:12 How are you doing, Journey? Good. How are you? I am just crossing everything that I have that your birthday banger is Journey. You know? Yeah, fingers crossed. That has to be. If Journey's birthday banger could be Journey, don't stop believing, I think we shut the segment down. I think that's, I think we've peaked.
Starting point is 00:40:34 I think that's as good as it gets. So what is your date, what's your date of birth, Journey? It is the 29th of September, 1996. Now you might hear that and go, oh, no, good. Journey were abandoned the 70s, 80s? Uh-uh. Journey had a big comeback in the 2010s with the show Glee. So what if, what if, by some miracle,
Starting point is 00:40:59 Journey, don't stop believing, went back to the top of the charts on the day that Journey was 16, which is the 29th September 2012. Well, let's find out. Stupid one direction. I dared to believe, Journey. That was the problem there. And it's no One Directions fault.
Starting point is 00:41:30 It's still a good song. What do you think? I'm putting my vote. You're putting your vote to what? To Shakira. Okay, Junie, thank you very much. One more birthday banger for Haley. Kurae.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Hi, guys. How's your day been, Haley? Good, thank you. What if your birthday banger is Haley Westerner? Oh, I'd just imagine. Just imagine. It would be almost as good as journeys. What is your day to birth, Haley?
Starting point is 00:41:56 6th of October, 1982. All right, Haley, my friend, you were 16 on the 6th of October, 1998, and on that day, this was the number one song. A bona fide banger! Yes, awesome. True simulation theory. Bree and I have talked about this song this week. We've played part of this song this week
Starting point is 00:42:20 when we talked about the film Armageddon that this is from. Do you remember that one, Haley, when Bruce Willis went up to the asteroid and put a nuclear missile inside it? Absolutely. Yeah. Okay, wait there. We have to choose between Shakira, 1D and Aerosmith.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Claudia, panel of two. I'm wondering if I should make the one I actually want to make. Okay. Stop eating, okay? No, I can't. We'll go to panel of two, Ella. I want one direction. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Yeah. All right, panel of three, Claudia. Do what you want to do in your heart of hearts. Can we please do one direction? I just did myself out of a vote. Yeah, good one. Hey, Journey, congratulations. You're the winner of birthday banger this afternoon.
Starting point is 00:43:10 From 2012, here's 1D on ZM. Hey, girl, I'm waiting on you. Zinclair. Tonight let's live while we own. Bang her from 1D, that is Journey's birthday banger from the year 2012. I, Claudia, for those who don't know the law of our show, Claudia's the biggest One Direction fan, and I've got a feeling that she actually wanted to vote for Aerosmith,
Starting point is 00:43:35 that she did vote for One Direction, but deep down in her soul of souls, she wanted to vote for Aerosmith, didn't you? Yeah, it doesn't come up much, and it gives me, like, the feels, you know? Like, it feels like I've had my success moment in a movie, and I'm like, punching the sky. No, it's the perfect crescendo, isn't that that song? And we can't play it. Moment's gone, but...
Starting point is 00:43:52 Oh, it just feels good. It would have definitely been a moment. Yeah. And you know what? I would have voted for it, but I got outvoted. Would you? And if Bree was here, she would have voted for it. Oh, I've made a mistake.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Actually, no. I stand by it, I still love One Direction. We just need someone else who was born on the 6th of October 1982 to call through tomorrow. A birthday banger. Sixth of October, 1988 two. And that's not rigging it. If it happens that way, it happens. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:21 I could stay awake just to hear you breathing. Oh my God. Okay, next on the show, I would like to put everybody through some small talk training. I know everybody says they hate small talk. I'm like, oh, I don't want to have to sit through small talk with my neighbors or with my kids' friends' parents. I've been reading up on small talk. Okay, and apparently there's a way to do it properly So we're going to do some small talk training
Starting point is 00:44:52 And some small talk practice This could help everybody And we'll do it after this on ZM Oh Claudia, look what you deprived us of ZDEM's brain clint Who here is a fan of small talk Nobody, nobody would say outwardly that they're a fan of small talk, right?
Starting point is 00:45:17 Yeah, not me Do you feel like it's important though? It definitely is. It helps you meet new people I know people who are like, I hate it, I will never do it. I'm like, no, no, you will. Yeah, you have to. It's social lubricant. It's the, it's what keeps this whole thing moving, right?
Starting point is 00:45:33 Yeah, work-related and all that. Without small talk, what are we? Without small talk, what are we? We're just strangers who sit in silence, which I know some people prefer. But at some point, someone is going to have to talk to someone. If we were going to continue to breed as a species, somebody is going to have to make the first move. And that could be small talk, guys. That's not.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Yeah, shock or not. Crap. You come to me. I've been doing some reading on Small Talk today. And it says kind of obviously the reason that people hate Small Talk is because it feels fake. Because it's repetitive and because it seems pointless. And also, and this is one I think will relate to you, Ella, and a lot of people, you don't know how honest you're supposed to be. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Yeah, I said much. And you're like, well, actually I'm constipated. I have a rash. So how should I respond to that? Good, good. How are you? I hate that though because again it feels superficial. How are you?
Starting point is 00:46:25 So why do we do it? It says in this piece that I've been reading, Small Talk reduces the initial awkwardness between strangers. Because at the start it's all awkwardness. There's no common ground. It helps you read each other quickly. It's a trust check, a vibe check and a status check. Because very quickly you'll hear if someone has,
Starting point is 00:46:45 if they've got like a sinister tone in their voice. If they've got a posh accent, you'll know that they are richer than you. You know? Or if they're like, oh, fine. That's a bad vibe check, bruh. How are you? How are you? Not good.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Oh, failed the vibe check. I'm getting a call. I got to go. Leadable. It's a low risk entry point to a conversation small talk. So how do we have better small talk, guys? Any ideas? Have a prepared topic.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Open-ended questions. Yes, Ella. Wow. Yes, Ella. Well done. Okay. So instead of. How is your weekend?
Starting point is 00:47:23 Yeah. You could ask, what was the highlight of your weekend? Yes. What was the best thing you did on the weekend? Instead of how's... This one is so well-intentioned, but I struggle with it. How's the family? You could say,
Starting point is 00:47:38 what's... Hey, have you in the family been anywhere cool recently? Mm. Hey, did you and the kids do anything cool on the weekend? Hey, have you taken your partner on a... I'm then planning a date? Have you and your partner been anywhere cool recently? Cute.
Starting point is 00:47:52 See, that's a little bit more interesting small talk. Instead of, how's work been? Ask literally anything else. That has to be the worst small talk question. Oh, so how's work? Good. Fine, what do you care? I like it.
Starting point is 00:48:05 I love my job. How's work? Oh, it's work. Yeah. No, I do struggle with the, what is it? Just being not, it feels fake. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get that, I get that.
Starting point is 00:48:18 So I like these. So now that we have trained ourselves, I've been through small talk training. Oh, God, are you going to make us add it out? I'm going to simulate small talk between Bree, oh, sorry, Ella. Oh, you miss her. I miss her so much. Between Ella and Claudia.
Starting point is 00:48:31 You are situated in a smoky bar. Are you strangers? Yep. You've arrived alone and you've both been set at the bar. Your options are, talk to no one or talk to each other. Okay, ready? We're both smoking at the bar, by the way. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:48:46 That's even cooler. Well, hey there. Hi, uh, you'd do anything fun on the weekend? Yeah, well, I just landed from Boston. Oh, what's your name? My name's Geoffrey. Jeffrey? Yeah, from Boston, you say.
Starting point is 00:49:06 That's cool. I just flew in. Sorry. Sorry. Why does your character have an accent? He's from Boston. Can you just be you? Can you just be you?
Starting point is 00:49:14 It's small talk. It's just you two. You're in a bar. Start again. Oh, okay. Sorry, I've been cut. Hey. Hey, is it alright if I sit here?
Starting point is 00:49:20 No, no. Stop, stop. What? That hay was like you knew her. You don't know each other. Okay, sorry. You're strangers. Start again, sat again.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Not a bossy director. Um, hey, do you, is this a seat taken? Oh, no, all yours. Good, this is good. Yeah, hey. What's your name? Oh, I'm Ella. Are you here alone?
Starting point is 00:49:37 Yeah, I'm here by myself. Are you also here alone? Yeah, well, funny story I got stood up. You got stood up? Oh, well, who was the person you're supposed to be meeting? A hot firefighter. Wow. You guys have instantly bypass small talk.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Yeah, no, I'm sorry. No, no, I don't know if it's good or if you're bad. I don't know if you're good at not avoiding small talk or if you're bad at this roleplay. You've done it. I like your jumper. Thank you. You never asked my name. What's your...
Starting point is 00:50:07 Oh, my God. Oh, my God, I did the swear word. That's my first swear word ever. I'm so sorry, everyone. We bypassed the small talk straight to the big talk. Oh, my gosh. Am I going to get fired? Do I'll beep it.
Starting point is 00:50:21 That's the small talk simulator. I'm so sorry, New Zealand. My mum will give me a spank. A smack. Is that Charlie Po? Play ZM's Brian Clint on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, and live weekdays from three on ZM.

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