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Episode Date: August 26, 2025Our most controversial Name in a Haystack yet... What's your unusual dog breed? Bree's thirsty for the cops again. Unspoken show rules - part 2! See omnystudio.com/listener fo...r privacy information.
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It's ZDM's Brie and Clint, the podcast.
ZDM's Brie and Clint, thanks to KFC's new Katsu Bowl.
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ZM's Brie and Clint.
I change your life if you just leave with me for mine.
Afternoon, everybody.
There's a lot going on then.
Excuse the banjo music in the background.
I'm just warming up for naming a haystack this afternoon.
Do you have a feeling?
I've got a feeling in me waters.
About name and a haystack?
Yeah, but I always do.
I've always got a feeling it's not going to go.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I kind of just go into it going,
this is never going to happen, but it's fun to try.
Is it bad that I always feel positive that it will?
No, that's good.
Glass half full.
That's good.
That's the right way to be.
I'm the grizzled old cynic over here.
It's good to have a balance, though.
Name and a haystack is our game we play every Tuesday after 5 o'clock
where we call a random business with a random name.
and if the person just happens to have that name
that answers the phone, we give them cash
and we're up to $1,800.
It goes up every week that we haven't got it.
So how many weeks? 36.
This will be week 36.
Weeks at 36 we've been on this hunt
and haven't found it, so 1,800 bucks it's worth today.
We'll do that just after 5 o'clock this afternoon
after the last secret sound guess of the day.
So, I mean, you can't try and win this game, you know?
You can't.
It's literally luck.
It's more likely that we give it away
to someone who doesn't listen to the Bree and Clint show.
Which is great.
Maybe we'll buy a listener.
An $1,800 listener.
I've been saying it for years,
we should start buying listeners.
So we'll do that soon.
We'll give you two cracks at the secret sound
at 4 and 5 o'clock.
And we'll get into a fresh round of Trady versus Lady
where the tradies are six points behind.
Correct. 50 bucks up for grabs.
If you want it, give us a call right now.
0800 dials at M.
James, Brie and Clint.
It's Trady versus ladies.
Three, two, one, let's go.
The Trades and the ladies.
Trades on 64.
Ladies having a win yesterday, bringing them to 72.
Our lady is in Pukikoi.
She's playing as a team with her daughter.
They, together, are 10 and 52, and they have a dog that plays hide and seek.
Please welcome our mother and daughter team.
It's Holly and Nikki.
Goody, guys.
Hi.
What kind of dog do you play hide-and-seek with?
A black dog, Labrador, cross with a Stephanie.
Oh, cute.
Give your dog a shout-out.
What's your dog's name?
Millie.
Millie.
And who normally wins?
Millie.
I bet she does.
You guys are taking on our tradie today from Hawks Bay.
He's 23 and he loves PlayStation.
Welcome to the show, Kellam.
Good day, Callum.
What's going on?
What's going on?
What's going on?
What's going on?
You and me both, Cal.
What games are you playing at the moment?
A little bit of Roblox and the Witcher.
Oh, yeah, nice.
Very different games.
Yeah.
What came first?
The Witcher PlayStation game or the Witcher TV show?
I think the books.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I think the books, yeah.
But then what came first out of the TV show and the video game?
Really?
Yeah.
Really? Henry Cavill won, right?
Yeah.
He's the Witcher?
He's the Witcher.
Yeah.
All right.
Cal, your buzz is Trady.
Holly and Nicky
Lady. The first team to give us three correct
answers is going to win $50 cash from
KFC. Good luck. Here we go. Question
number one. What type of vehicle
is the Harley Davidson Company
famous for making? Yes, Callum.
Motorbikes. Motorbikes.
Motorbikes is on the money.
One to the Trades. Question number two.
Got to be in quick today, guys.
What animal is known as the
sleepiest animal?
Trady.
Calum.
Calum.
A sloth.
It is a sloth.
It is, of course, a sloth.
Can you see our answers here?
Callum, this is rapid from you.
Yeah, I know.
You're dialed in.
He loves to play the games.
We know that from Cal.
Ladies, you guys need this one to stay in it okay.
Here comes question number three.
Hot on that buzzer when you can tell me who sings this song.
Holly and Nikki.
No, no!
That was a frog.
That means Callum for the steel.
ACDC.
ACDC.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was a dominant tradey performance.
Well done, Callum.
Good job, Cal.
Thank you very much.
Holly and Nicky, I feel like nerves got the best of you today.
Call back and play again, okay?
Well, do.
Thank you.
No worries.
Thanks, guys.
Cal, 50 bucks, we'll get it out to you, mate.
Don't feel bad either.
The tradies needed that one.
They did need to win.
They really did.
Shot Cal.
Let's go.
Let's go.
I love Cal's energy.
Keep bringing that energy, Cal.
50 bucks.
Cash coming your way, thanks to KFC.
What are you going to spend it on, Cal?
Some roadblocks.
KFC for sure.
KFC for sure.
Yeah.
Good answer.
Two piece feed.
But the sounds of Cal, a whole bucket, I think.
It's Tuesday and on Tuesdays we go looking for a name-in-a-hastack.
Burgie.
$1,800 round of name-in-a-hastack.
It's not likely, but we push on and we continue to try
and that is the whole point of name in a haystack.
Attempt number 36 of calling a random business
with a random predetermined name in mind
and if the person with that name answers the phone,
they will win 18-Hastack.
and we, you and I Bree, will have found a name in a haystack.
And this game will end.
And it will end, yeah, it's right, yeah.
Once we find it.
I don't know if we'll get budget for a season two.
Yeah, Ross is already packing his dacks over how much season one's got to.
He's like, oh, I didn't sign up for this.
I didn't know it was going to go to $1,800.
We've got it in a verbal agreement, though, that he will let the game last until it ends.
Yep, it's in a contract.
It's in a contract.
Claudia, what are you choosing for a?
us today. I'll do the name today.
Oh, what name are you got for us? I've realized we haven't
done what I think is one of the most common
names ever. Ben.
Well, we might have done Ben. We haven't done
Katie. Wow.
Okay. Katie's good.
Growing up in high school, every second
girl was called Kate or Katie or Caitlin.
I know heaps of Katie's or Kate.
Which I think is a massive oversight on my
part, so I'm fixing that today. You've gone broad again.
Katie Caitlin.
Catherine? No.
Yeah, Catherine is short of Catherine.
They have to go by Kate.
Yeah.
We're going to say Kate, though, aren't we?
Kate, Katie.
We're going to say, is Kate there.
Caitlin had a push, but Kate or Katie.
Oh, this one, there's a lot of grey area.
Like, if their name is Catherine, you have to kind of give it.
I feel like we lock in Kate or Katie, and those are our board option.
Kate or Katie.
Yeah.
So we've got two names then.
It's names in a haystack this week.
Where does Kate or Katie work, Ella?
Farley Bakehouse.
in the location, in the South Island.
In Fairley?
Yeah, that would make sense.
Not Feely Bakehouse?
Yeah, that's it.
Okay, cool, let's call them.
I think they're Fairly New.
Claudia, please connect us to the Fearylakehouse in Feely,
where today we're looking for Kate or Katie.
Oh, come on.
Come on, Kate.
Come on, Katie.
I hope they're working late.
Yeah, bakers would be home.
Good afternoon, Feely Bakehouse.
Hi there.
This is Bree and Clint calling from Zee.
Who are we speaking with?
You'll be speaking with Kathleen.
Would you like to speak to the office staff?
Oh, my God.
Oh, Kathleen!
Kathleen!
Kathleen! You are not going to believe this.
You are the person that we need to speak to.
Oh, really?
We play a game on this show.
Oh, my God, Kathleen.
Name in a haystack where we call a random business
and we try and get someone with a name that we've chosen to answer the phone.
Today we were looking for Kate or Kate.
Katie, and we got Kathleen.
We're so close.
You couldn't get much closer than Kathleen to Kate or Katie, could you?
No, no.
Here's the real kick in the pants, Kathleen.
If it was Kate or Katie, you would have won $1,800.
Oh, wow.
And that's why it's such a kick in the pants.
Yes, never mind.
Never mind.
You've got a good attitude.
You know, we debated.
before we came on how far we would go
and we decided we would go as far as Catherine
Kathleen didn't even cross our mind
but I mean...
Yeah
That's all right
Sometimes I get called Cass
Sometimes they get called Kathy
But never Kate or Katie
No sometimes
Yeah sometimes
Yeah
Yeah
No it's just not like
I don't know guys
I'm on the cusp here
I don't know
Yeah, I get called all that sort of thing because of Kathleen.
How often do you get Kate or Katie?
Oh, about once every two months.
I think.
I think we want it more than...
I want to give it to her so bad.
I think we'd be doing the 35 other versions of this game are disservice if we gave it.
But Kathleen, we would love to give you a consolation prize if we can.
If you could hold on the line, we'd love to give you something, okay?
Okay.
Okay, hold the line.
All right, thank you, Keith.
Thanks, Kathleen.
We're going to get roasted for this.
I don't know, guys.
Do you understand what I mean, though?
Like, if we give it away now, we've said that it's a hard game,
and are we just trying?
Are we just wanting to make it work?
Like, put a circle and a square, you know?
Because Kathleen is not Katie.
What are some nicknames for Kathleen?
But she doesn't go by Katie.
But, like, customers just call her that every now and then.
I think she gets Kath or Kathy.
Common nicknames for Kathleen include these are the first two.
No way.
Kathy?
And Kate.
That's crazy.
They're the first two.
It's just not quite, though.
If she had a said, people call me Katie.
Yes.
That is my nickname, but she wasn't sure about it.
You know?
Rats.
Oh, I don't feel right.
I feel like we need to know.
impartial judge.
We do.
It's none of us because we want it to be right.
Should it be Ross?
It's not Ross because he wants it to be wrong.
Who should it be?
Soundkeeper Brooke.
No.
Who do we get?
Should we call my mum?
Oh.
Yes.
Yeah, that's what we need to do.
I think we call my mum.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And don't give her any context though.
No.
Just ask her, if you met someone by the name of Kathleen,
what would her nickname be?
What would you nickname her?
And?
Or is it, if you ever met someone?
someone called Kathleen, would you call them Kate?
No, because then you're leading her.
You say, if you met someone named Kathleen?
She gets one shot.
What would her nickname be?
One shot, one shot.
And if Mama Dice says Kate or Katie, do we all agree?
We call Kathleen back and we give her the $18.00.
Okay, deal.
Okay, deal.
Okay, deal.
All right, we're going to call Mama Dice right after this.
ZDM's Bree and Clint podcast.
My nerves can't take it.
We've just had our most controversial game of name and a haystack so far.
The text machine is blowing up.
There's people on both sides of the argument.
I've never seen it more perfectly split down the middle, though.
People are invested.
They've been with us over this 36-week journey to find the name in a haystack.
Quick summary for you.
Every week we call a random business with a predetermined name.
And if the person with that name answers the phone...
That is name in a haystack.
And they win cash.
The money's been jackpotting.
We're up to $1,800.
It's a lot of money.
Today we called the Fairley Bake House.
really looking for Kate.
Kate or Katie.
And at a push, Catherine.
That's what was discussed beforehand.
We got Kathleen, who goes by Kathy and Kath.
Or Kath.
And Kath.
She said sometimes every now and then people who don't know her Kate.
Yeah.
I think.
We have an impartial, what we believe is an impartial judge on standby at the moment.
She can't hear this.
She hasn't been listening.
She hasn't been listening.
So she doesn't know what this is about, right?
She can't hear us right now.
We can't go through all the possible nicknames for Kathleen
because eventually I reckon you would end up close to it.
Yes, but I mean people on the text machine are saying, you know,
name in a haystack is the name and it's not closest name in a haystack.
No.
It's name in a haystack, but we've come up.
It's hard for a reason.
I think this is a fair solution where mama does.
die, who hasn't been listening to any of this, we're going to ask her. This is the simple
question we're going to ask. We're going to say, she doesn't have any context. If you met
a person named Kathleen, if you became friends with them, what would be the nickname you would
call them? For Kathleen. For Kathleen. Okay. Claudia, please put Mama Die through to us now.
She hasn't been able to hear any of this yet. And we'll bring her on.
God.
Here she is.
Daya, are you with us?
Hi, Mum.
Hi, guys.
How you going?
Good afternoon.
Good afternoon, Mum.
Hey, we have a really simple question.
We're not going to tell you really what it's about, anything else.
We just need one simple answer from you.
Okay, it sounds like pressure.
No, don't overthink it.
No, there's no pressure.
Don't ever think it.
We just need your honest answer, okay?
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
So the question is, if you.
became friends with someone called Kathleen, what would you nickname that friend?
Kathleen.
Caddy.
Wait.
Wait.
So their name's Kathleen.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Can we just hear that clearly?
What would you nickname that friend?
Caddy.
Cat. Catty. Catty?
Well, yeah, catty.
Catty.
Can you spell it?
What a, no.
What is the most...
Oh, Jesus, you made this more confusing.
What's the most common...
No, she hasn't, she hasn't said what we needed her to say.
She's just gone as close to what we...
It's literally in the middle.
That's what I normally do.
I'm an average person.
Oh, my God.
What's the most common nickname for someone named Kathleen Mum?
I don't know.
She's the wrong person.
Is it Katie or is it Kathy?
Oh yeah, well Kathy then, Kathy.
Oh, no, now we're leading her.
Oh, she's.
Well, you said a nickname to me.
Kathy is just shortening the name.
I don't classify that as his nickname.
That is literally the definition of a nickname.
a nickname.
I hate this and I hate it being the bad guy.
I hate it so much.
I think it's a no.
When we have to agree on this as a team, okay?
We'll take a vote.
I vote no.
I'm happy to vote first.
I vote no.
I also vote no.
Yeah, it's a hollow victory if we do it.
Yeah.
It's a no.
Even though Mama Dye's made it incredibly more convoluted.
I think, let me just say, I think,
a nickname is more like a pet name.
I don't think it's a short
and that's all name.
Mum, here's this.
She doesn't know what she's talking.
Mum, you know the game name in a haystack we play on our show?
Yes, yes.
We called today, right?
So the name today,
no, listen, listen, let's see what she actually says
and what she thinks.
We called today, the name we were looking for
was Kate or Katie.
And the woman who answered,
her name was Kathleen,
should she win?
Absolutely, yes.
Hang up on Mama Dye.
She's...
Hang up on her.
She's making us look even worse.
I thought she was going to give us clear air.
She just...
She made it so much worse.
All right.
Well, to be fair, we were just trying to make her the bad guy,
but it got pushed back on us.
Calm as a bitch.
We'll stand behind our decision.
We have to stand by our decision.
We have to.
It's a no.
Devastating.
Next week, we'll go searching for a name
in a haystack.
worth $1,850
and we promise we do actually want
to find a winner for us. No, we do, but we
want it to be right, we want it
to feel right. People are saying give her
half the money. No, that's not how it works.
We're not looking for half a name and
half a haystack. Yeah. Okay.
There's a lot of techs. We appreciate
how invested you guys are. We're just
as invested. Can't you see we're standing
on principle? We want it, we
want the money to go, but we want it
to feel right.
I feel terrible.
I was at the dog park this morning.
I love the dog park.
Yeah, because you said it's a good place to head on people, eh?
And you can poo anywhere you like.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which is also another plus.
Because the dog's an icebreaker.
Yeah, exactly.
No, there's a few things I love about it.
I love that, yeah, you get to talk to people.
You know, it is a nice icebreaker, not for that reason.
But, you know, other people and their dogs, you get to see other dogs, which is a great big plus.
You get to see your dog interact with other dogs.
You get to see your dog having a good time,
which literally just fills my heart with so much joy.
It's the best.
And you get to carry a little bag of poo around.
And usually there's a lot of poo-poo bins, which I like,
so you don't have to carry it around for long.
This morning I saw, I love looking at all the different breeds.
Sorry, just, sorry, what's our thoughts on people going to the dog park without a dog?
You know, just to experience dogs and also meet people.
You know, like talk to other dog people.
And would you be weirded out if you met someone at the dog park who didn't have a dog?
I'm fine with that.
I used to do that.
Did you?
Okay.
Yeah, I used to talk quite often.
Okay, then we're fine with that.
If I see that person walking around with a poo bag, then I would start to ask questions.
You know, then I'd be not okay with it.
But this morning, I love seeing all the different dog breeds and asking people, oh, what is your dog?
What kind of breed is it?
this morning I saw a breed that I've one never heard of
and two I've never seen right I was like is that your dog I couldn't figure it out
I was like what type of breed normally I'm pretty good normally I'm straight onto it
I know what it is oh there's a bit of that in there but of that that's that's definitely a bitser
definitely some stuffy in there and I said to the guy I was like oh what kind of breed is your dog
and he goes oh it's a golden shepherd oh have you ever heard of that before no I've never
heard of that breed before and I looked it up
and he was telling me about it. It's a German
shepherd cross with a golden retriever.
Oh my God, dream dog. And
I'd never seen one before.
Yeah. Whoa, cool dog.
Quite rare. I have a golden
retriever and my wife's family always had German shepherds
and so they like the golden retriever
because he's big like a German shepherd.
Yeah. But not as full on. I wouldn't
say there anything alike though.
No. Would you?
Well, I don't know. I don't know. This is my first dog ever.
ever had a dog before?
Very different dogs.
But yeah, he was a very cool dog.
Very cool.
And it got me thinking about what are some of the more unusual breeds?
You know, because you see your Maltises.
Maltese?
Maltese.
You see your Maltese.
You see your Labrador's, your golden retrievers.
But where are the real rare unusual crossbreeds?
Yeah, and also just rare breeds themselves.
Like I was on K Road.
the other day
and this guy
with this huge dog
was huge
and so hairy
no it was an Irish
sitter
which I know
are fairly common
but I hadn't seen
one up close before
and it was
it was a lot of dog
it was a hell of a lot of dog
an Irish setter
yeah and I haven't seen
many of those
yet woman in our area
has an Irish wolfhound
call us and tell us
what your dog is
if it's a rare
or unusual breed
or crossbreed
and then Bree and I
will Google image search
it and then you'll hear us go
Wow.
I've seen that before.
Yeah, yeah.
I googled a few weird and rare crossbreeds.
Do you want to hear what some of them are?
Yeah.
A Pomsky, which is a Pomeranian cross husky.
Mm-hmm.
And you've got a Gobarian, which is a golden retriever cross husky.
Oh.
Then you've got a big...
Oh, golden Siberian.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
And then you've got a Beeble.
A Bijon Freez crossed with a poodle.
A beagle cross bulldog.
Oh.
A beagle.
Bebel, right.
Beable.
Then you've got a doxy poo.
Oh, I don't know what a doxypo is.
A ducks horn and a poodle.
Oh, a sausage dog poodle cross.
Yeah.
There's a lot of different ones.
Can you cross anything?
Can you cross a Griffin with a Great Dane?
I don't think so.
Unless...
Logistically, can you?
Do they do dog IVF?
Yeah, well, yeah.
Do they?
Is that a thing?
Anyway, if you've got a rare or interesting dog breed,
call us, tell us what it is, let us Google it, and tell us about it.
You tell us the name, and then we will try and figure out from the name what the breeds are.
Like the shit poo.
Yeah.
Shih Tzu cross.
Poodle.
Dead is Brankland.
What's the unusual dog breed?
Yeah, what are you running in the dog game?
I met a golden shepherd at the dog park this morning.
Very good looking dog.
Never heard of it until this morning.
I think I like the idea of two dogs the same size as each other
going into each other.
Not like that.
Two dogs the same size as each other making up the new dog.
Do you know what I mean?
Do you know what I mean?
I know what you mean.
Like before you said sausage dog poodle and I was like, uh-uh.
Uh-uh.
So you're not a fan of babushka dolls then?
No.
You show me a dog version of a bubushka doll.
That's very different.
That's a dog and a dog and a dog.
No, but you know what I mean?
Like if you take the biggest babushka doll
and it turns into the smallest babushka dog.
No, I'm not keen on that because it will rattle around.
You need all the intermediate dogs.
Like if you want to cross, if you want to cross like a St. Bernard
with a Jack Russell, go down the dogs.
Mate.
Put some intermediate dogs in there.
Have you ever met a Jack Russell?
He could get it done.
Stacey's here.
Hi, Stacy.
Hi, Stacy.
Hi, guys.
Give us the combo and Brea and I will try and guess what kind of dogs it is.
The name.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Give us the name of the...
breed. Okay, you want me to merge
the names? Oh yeah.
Does it not have a name? Is there a merged name?
Yeah, I don't think so, no.
Okay, we can make one up then. It's a bit hard.
Okay.
Her name is Millie. Yeah.
And she is
How am I going to do this?
Retriever.
A rapid. A rapid.
So a golden retriever.
Rotter. Cross. Repid.
Rapid.
I'm hearing Shepard.
Yeah, Shepard.
So, German Shepard?
Belgian Shepard.
Belgian Shepard.
I need to look up Belgian Shepard.
Okay.
Quite rare, Stacey.
I did send you guys on your Instagram.
Okay, cool.
That's a Belgian retriever.
That's what you've got.
You've got a Belgian retriever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good combo?
She is?
Yes.
She's absolutely gorgeous.
She'd be beautiful.
She is.
Okay.
How many kilos?
She's a little on the heavier side of the moment.
Don't fat shame the dog, right?
Hey, it's winter, it's winter, you know.
How many kilos are you?
Yeah, she has a lot.
Hey, I'm carrying a little bit of extra winter weight.
I don't really want to discuss that right now.
How heavy are you?
And what's your breed, Bree?
Natalie's here.
Hi, Natalie.
Italian and about 78 of the boat.
Hi, Natalie.
Does your specific dog breed have a name?
No, I don't think it does.
Okay, let's make one up.
What do you got?
So she's a blue healer cross-border collie.
Oh, my God.
That's so cool.
And is it a blue or a red healer?
It's the blue kind.
She's a multi, so she's tricolored.
Oh.
So she's black, white, blue and tan.
Natalie, that sounds like you have the coolest dog in the world.
Depends how much energy you have.
Yeah, it sounds like a very frantic dog to me.
I'm saying in terms of looks.
Blue healer is bluey, right?
She's very cute.
Yes, it is bluey, yep.
Very rare in New Zealand.
So not where I'm from.
So the man o'er two, they're breed here.
Oh, okay.
As working dogs?
Yeah, yeah.
No.
This is pets.
This is pets.
Natalie's like my one doesn't work.
Yeah, no, it doesn't.
Does nothing.
So wait, we need a name for it.
Blue Healer crossed border collie.
So it's a healy collie.
A border healer.
A healy collie.
It's a border healer.
A border healer.
A border healer?
A border healer.
Okay, good, we did it.
Thanks, Natalie.
Let's talk to Gigi.
Hi, Gigi.
Hi, Gigi.
Hi, how are you?
Good, thanks.
What kind of dog?
Unusual breed?
We've got a soft-coated wheat interior.
Oh, what is that?
It sounds like you're describing a cake.
I'm so coated.
He's 11 weeks old.
Wheat, oh my God.
It's so cute.
Gigi.
That dog looks like a wig.
There is so much hair that comes off that dog.
all kind of pools on the ground.
These are like big terriers, hey.
Yeah, she's super cute.
Well, we had her five days, so it could go anyway, really.
My God, how exciting, and how long to it take you to find that breed in New Zealand?
Over a couple of wines, maybe an hour.
Okay, so not too hard.
I like this dog, and then I Google searched it, and then we found one.
So just like that, G-J.
It's amazing what can be achieved over a few wines, eh?
Amazing.
Okay, thanks, G-G-G-G-E-R-E-A-R-E-E-R-E-E-R-E-L-U-K-I.
Someone said the most beautiful dog in the world is a saluky.
What's a saluky?
Google it.
S-A-L-U-K-I.
It's the weirdest-looking dog.
S-A-L-U-K-I.
It looks like something out of Lord of the Rings.
Oh, my God, that's so cool.
Mm-hmm.
It looked kind of like a greyhound cross, like, chihuahua.
It looks like a greyhound who's been to the hairdresser and had like a blowout.
Okay, what is a melchee?
Um, a melemmer.
crossed with Shiba Ino.
That's a great guess.
According to this, Maltese cross Shih Tzu, which I thought they were a mulchit.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's a multi-Shut.
Yeah, a multi-shut.
What about a border paps?
A border collie crossed with a Papua New Guinea Pig.
I don't know.
A Papua New Guinea pig.
A border collie cross with a Papillion?
Oh, okay.
Okay.
You know, those little, like, they're really cute.
No, yeah.
Someone else said, we've got a golden retriever cross with a Shih Tzu.
Golden Shet.
A golden shit.
Which obviously there has to be done.
No, no, no.
A shit retriever.
All that.
It's a shit retriever.
Yeah.
Someone else said, we've got a Springer doodle.
Oh, yeah, spring a Spaniel and a Poodle.
And a Poodle.
Someone said, my friend has a dashback.
A Duxund and a back, back.
Ridgeback?
Bridgeback.
Maybe.
Someone else said, we've got a Labanard.
We've got a Jack Russell cross with a pit bull.
It's a Jack muscle.
That's pretty cool.
And someone else said on the text machine
because we were talking about big dogs breeding with little dogs
and they said it's definitely AI.
Oh, okay.
It's definitely, it has to be.
Artificial insemination.
Yeah, right, right.
It has to be artificial insemination.
I've seen them.
It's not AI.
That kind of AI, the original AI.
Yeah, the original.
Yeah, right.
Right, right, right, right.
ZDN's Brancin.
Who is excited for the new Taylor Swift album?
This guy right here.
Me.
Claude?
Yeah.
I knew, producer Ella, this was for her.
I know she's fizzing about it.
My daughters are over the moon.
See, people are having a listening party.
They're having a listening party at home the day it comes out.
It's going to be awesome.
She said that
She talked about a couple of weeks ago
Her 12th studio album
That it's going to be released
I believe on October 3rd is when it drops
It's called The Life of a Showgirl
And unlike her last album
Which had 31 songs
This album has 12
What's your upper limit for number of songs on an album?
I can't handle an album that's got more than
15
15's the number
31 gets too much for me
Some of those Drake albums were pushing like 25 and I'm like,
just give me the best ones.
Yeah, I just want the 15 best.
Just give me the best songs.
That I can really just absolutely thrash over and over again.
Exactly right.
You know?
Exactly right.
Anyway, the Swifties, as they do, have come out and they've done a lot of research,
a lot of weaseling, have tried to figure out what each song is, who it's about.
So she's released the name of the songs on the album.
The track listing.
And the Swifties, of course, has.
have put their heads together
and they're trying to figure out
who the songs are about.
Do you want to hear?
How many Swifties do you think it would take
to solve the secret sound?
I reckon two or three.
Not many.
Yeah.
They're the best in the game.
If they put their mind to it.
Literally the best in the game.
So I've picked out my favourite ones.
The first one is track three,
which is called Opelite.
Opel, October, Libra.
Has anyone noticing something?
Travis Kelsey.
Oh.
His birthstone, his birth month.
people are saying that they reckon that particular track is about him.
People know what Travis Kelsey's birthstone is.
Well, if you know what his birthday is.
Oh, okay.
Yep.
You know what his birthstone is.
Track four.
Oh my God, it was so obvious all along.
Yeah.
I missed it.
Track four, father figure.
People are saying they reckon this is about a bit of a homage to George Michael.
Oh.
Yeah.
Which is quite interesting.
What is Taylor Swift's association with George Michael?
It says it could be a George Michael homage with huge vocals
or a role reversal power ballad
but some predict Taylor flips the script casting herself as the industry's alpha
after nearly two decades on top.
Buzzy, okay.
Track six, ruin the friendship.
You guys can guess who the Swifties think this is about.
Katie Perry.
No, she's done all that.
She's done those ones.
Yes, producer Ella, please.
Lord, Lord, Lord.
Of course, it's Blake Lively.
Or is it Olivia Rodrigo?
I mean, yeah.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Her and Olivia Rodriguez?
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, yeah.
They should be friends, but then they ruin the friendship.
The Swift is saying Blake lively, so we'll see.
Track 7, cancelled.
People are saying, the Swifties are saying it could be about Trump.
Could be about Blake lively again, or it could be about both.
God, imagine putting her in the same song as Trump.
That would ruin the friendship.
That's really rough.
track eight actually romantic another one for Travis the Swifties are saying
and track 11 called Honey another one for Travis Kelsey
Yay it's a love song
Which is very exciting
I thought we could play a bit of a game this afternoon
And no let's let Clint play and just see where he's at
Because he should have a bit of Taylor Swift knowledge
Knowing your daughters are such big fans
You listen a lot
Absolutely so what I'm going to do is
Because we obviously don't know who those songs are about
We're still waiting to hear them
So we can try and figure it out
These songs I'm about to play you
We definitely know who they're about
But does Clint know who
Taylor Swift wrote these songs about
Let's play song number one
When I stare at the phone
He still hasn't golden
And you feel so love
You can't feel nothing at all
And you flash back to when he said
Sing it with me
Forever and always
Oh, when it rains in your bedroom.
Forever and Always, 2008, who's it about?
Jake Gyllenhaal.
It was a good guess, but no, 2008, very early for Jake Gillen Hall.
Damn it.
It was Joe Jonas, who she also said on the Ellen show
that he broke up with her over the phone in like eight seconds.
Yeah, right.
And so she had to write a few songs about him, actually.
What about this track?
I know this one
2014
I know this one
Who did Taylor write this about?
I know this one.
Who?
Harry Stiles.
This one is a Harry-styled one.
Get on there!
A.k.a.
Hay-Law.
Let's move on to track number three.
So this is me swallowing my pack
standing in front of you saying
I'm sorry for that.
One of the more rare songs for Taylor
Because it's a full-blown apology
I know this one
She's apologising for stealing his name
It's Taylor Lautner
Taylor Lawtoner, it is indeed about Taylor Lawton
Yes
What about one of the most iconic Taylor Swift songs ever
Because there we are again on that little town street
All too well
The 10 minute version
I know this one
Because any time we get in the car
And the Apple Maps says the journey
Is longer than 10 minutes
My wife makes us listen to the 10 minute version of this song
And who's it about?
It's about Jake Gyllenhaal
And that's why we don't
Wear red scarves on Wednesday
Like Jake Gyllenhaal very much
Last one
You're doing very well
I like Jeterlin.
One of the best Taylor Swift songs, in my opinion.
Who's this about?
Job in the getaway car.
We were flying, but we never get from.
Don't pretend it's such a mystery.
Oh, so God.
Running.
Who is?
See, I would have said this was about Harry Stiles as well,
but you wouldn't put him in there twice, so.
Wouldn't I?
Oh.
John Mayer.
You're just going with the only people you know that Taylor's with dated.
Or that British guy.
Getaway car, a metaphor for a person.
Who was the getaway car?
It was Tom Hiddleston after Calvin Harris.
Oh, the other British guy.
He was like a getaway car and she was just free and she was escaping.
Yeah, and everyone's like, you left Calvin Harris for that guy.
Hey, Tom Hiddleston's a bit of right.
Thank you for the deep dive, Bray, very informative.
You're welcome.
Dead Am's Brey and Clint podcast.
That is the research alarm on this show
where we get to the bottom of things that don't make sense.
And to me, I've been watching shows lately, cop shows, any cop shows,
especially ones from the UK, I've noticed, any female detectives.
They're always wearing a heel.
They're chasing after the bad guys
They're in a heel
And I call BS, surely not
Makes it that much harder to catch anyone
So we have amassed
A team of New Zealand's leading female
Detectives to get to the bottom of this
First one would like to remain anonymous
Understandably
Hello Detective
Hi Detective
Hello
Thanks so much for joining us this afternoon
Detective
Thank you, question
Do you wear a heel?
No, not me
more.
Wait, not anymore?
When I was a lot younger, I probably rocked about an inch, inch and a half, maybe at times,
but the feet are now too broken, so it's definitely flat.
Do you regret wearing heels early in your career?
If you could go back, would you say, why am I wearing a heel?
I'm catching, I'm Superman here, I'm catching bad guys.
Yeah, no, it would definitely be, go the flat, comfortable shoes.
What is your shoe of choice?
What are you wearing to work?
Are sketches?
Oh.
No, no, you can't be that informal.
So, unfortunately, it's things that almost look like podiatry shoes.
Nice.
You know what?
You know what?
Just flat and black and...
Yeah, the chastity shoes.
Stop trying to throw me off.
It doesn't make you any less hot.
Stop trying to throw me off, Detective.
She will not be swayed.
Well not.
Let's talk to Anonymous Detective number two.
Good afternoon, Detective.
Good afternoon, Detective.
Hello, how are you?
Good, thank you.
Bree, can't stop thinking about your feet, Detective.
Oh, kinky.
She sounds fun.
Detective, tell us, do you wear a heel to work?
No, I do not.
And have you ever?
No, I've worn a smart phone boot, I would say, but no.
No.
Because you're not talking about a boot heel, are you, Brie?
Like the ones you would find on the back of, like, a pair of riding boots or Doc Martens or something like that.
No.
I'm talking about...
You're talking about a high heel.
On a boot.
A pointed heel.
Yes.
And that's not what you're wearing, is it among us?
I do know someone that wears pointed heels, though.
And have they ever caught a criminal in a foot chase with them on?
I would say no.
Yeah, right.
Interesting.
Kick them off, though, and then take off barefoot.
Thank you, Detective.
Thank you, Detective.
You've been very helpful this afternoon.
No worries.
Some text messages.
Female detective here.
Yes, I wore a healed boot to work.
I wear a healed boot.
It puts me about six foot tall, which helps when I'm dealing with male offenders.
Oh, yeah, get the height advantage.
If you have a planned job out on the field, I'll wear more comfy clothes, including sneakers.
Okay, that's good to know.
Someone else said, frontline cop here, news flash.
Detectives don't run at all.
Okay, good to know from the front line.
No detective that is ever, is that a myth as well that we see in the TV shows?
Or is that just shade from the front line aimed at the detectives?
Yeah, like has a detective ever, you know, like we see in the TV shows,
or is that all make-believe where, at one point, they have to take off running?
I'm a female detective and I wear a low-heeled boot.
I'm not often chasing people down, but I could in this show, in this shoe.
Yeah, right.
And then I've named the sort of boat
The Isabel N. See Me Boot is my YouTube.
Okay, all good.
Someone else said, yes, we do wear boot heels.
So, I mean, there is a bit of everything on the TEAS machine.
I think a boot heel is like a big, thick, chunky heel.
Boot heel.
That's different.
But you know the boot heels I'm talking about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because that's what they portray on the TV shows.
Yeah, right.
I think we should just make it standard that they don't have to wear a heel.
Right.
You know?
Yeah.
And then if they do, like I know the front-line cop saying that they don't,
but then if they are caught in a situation where they have to, you know,
run through people's backyards and jump fences and stuff.
Yeah, you're passionate about this.
I like it.
Frontline police officer here.
I've only seen a detective run to the coffee machine.
God, they are throwing shape.
Well, there you go.
I think we got to the bottom of it.
Did we get to the bottom of it?
I think we got to the bottom of it.
But they don't wear heels, sometimes a healed boot.
That was good research from everyone.
Well done.
We pulled together on that one.
Satisfied?
Yeah, I think so.
Nice.
Maybe for a couple of weeks.
I'll come up with something else.
Whatever shoes you're wearing.
Get them back on the air.
Leave them on.
The ZDM Podcast Network.
Let's get classical.
And this is Let's Get Classical, where Brie and I go head-to-head with
Ella, guessing songs, reimagined in classical style.
And Claudia is in charge.
Hello, Claudia.
Hi, Claude.
Are we all ready for this?
Ready.
Ready?
You guys seem very calm and, like, zen.
Well, by comparison...
Sorry, Bree and Clint, you seem very calm.
Yeah, yeah.
By comparison.
This is the biggest game in radio.
I'm taking it seriously.
It's bigger than everything.
Bigger than...
Everything?
Yeah, buying your first house.
Bigger than your first born.
Bigger than...
a fat uncle
we agree
I like just letting her talk
yeah same yeah
okay the way the game works
and it's Bree and Clint versus Ella
these are all classical songs
well pop songs turn into a classical style
and you guys have to guess what it is
okay are you ready ready I've spent
the full budget on the first song guys
have you yeah okay got the full orchestra
involved oh holy smokes
buzzing with your name I need the artist and the name
of the song here is the first one
Ella
Flowers, Miley Cyrus
Very good
Oh
I'm right there
Impressive
Impressive
I didn't hear that at all
I was on your heels
Yeah but you weren't fast enough
She's getting smug, guys.
You're very confident for only having one song.
Maybe after you win the second one, then you throw the shade.
Oh, yeah.
Here's the second one.
What the hell?
Not the hellie?
Oh.
Oh, it's right there.
Oh, no.
Buzzer out.
No, no, no.
You can joke a guess if you have one.
No, you're out.
I don't want to give them anything.
Do you guys want a free guess or we'll keep going?
No, no, no, no.
I don't have a guess.
I don't know.
I'd love to have a guess, but I don't.
Nah, back in.
Can I sing it?
Oh, my God, it's right there.
I can sing it for you.
You have to buzz us out.
Yeah.
Do you want a clue?
Yeah.
No, I hate it when it's a clue.
Why?
What if we get it?
That's a hard one clue.
Since you know it, you'll hear it.
Can we play from the start one more time?
Brie.
Is it, um...
You've got it.
Roses.
Oh!
You can help, Clint.
You're a team.
Outcast, roses.
Of course.
It's probably yes.
But I've had that.
Oh my God, like now that you say it, yeah, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I was thinking along on my head the whole time.
Wow.
Yeah, far out.
If I wasn't going to get that one, I don't know there's any hope for me in this game anymore.
That was hard, though.
That was painful, but yeah.
That was painful.
Like five minutes ago.
Oh, whatever.
I did.
Okay, tie break, tie break.
I couldn't sing it.
I didn't know the lyrics.
Tie break.
This is the last one.
Okay, here we go.
Ella!
Ella!
Daisy's Justin Bieber.
That's the one.
God damn it!
How's good?
Good from her.
She was true.
Congratulations to our person who backed Ella but then just hung up just then.
Do they not realize that they backed Ella for the win and that she won?
Damn.
Oh, well, we'll get them their KFC.
Well done, Ella.
Well done.
Hey, thanks guys.
Fun game.
Bigger than her first house, bigger than her first born,
bigger than her fat uncle Greg.
It's so sad for your uncle that might be listening.
I don't have a fat uncle.
It was a metaphor.
Oh, yeah.
Well, every uncle of yours is going to be thinking.
Is she talking about me?
Oh, no, I love Craig.
Bye, Craig.
It's Z.M.'s Bree and Clint podcast.
You were away last week, was it?
No.
Week before.
Week before.
When you were away, we started discussing some, what do we call?
them show rules
show rules oh the unspoken
show rules yeah the ones that clint don't know
about exactly well no one knows about them because no one
speaks about them they exist but we just don't talk about them
us girls make eyes we're like oh that's a rule
yeah avoid that
I don't know I thought the eyes were for a different
reason oh that could be something else yeah that could be something else yeah
mystery the situation
the menagerie twas anyway there's some fresh rules that you guys want a table
There are because Bree wasn't here for this conversation.
What were the first rules?
We have to, and you know this, Bree.
You do it too, but we have to message Clint Good Morning.
Oh, of course.
Because it sets his day out well.
Yeah.
God, it's so annoying.
I know.
Just another thing to do.
Every day I have an alarm.
Another thing to think about.
Anyway, you weren't here, so there are some more rules that need to be tabled.
Okay.
Just so we're all clear.
Okay.
Because we haven't talked about them.
So we're just starting to get them out in the open.
Yeah.
You know me?
I love rules.
Yeah.
Do you?
I'm being sarcastic.
Well, we all know, and I'll just, like, set this up as an example
and we can, like, spit fire.
But we all know that you have dogs at home, Brie.
So when there's a good show at the end of the show,
we have to, like, line up and pat you on the head.
Because it just sets you up.
Like one of your dogs.
Yeah, like one of your dogs.
I do love a pat.
Much like how if Clint's wearing a hat, like I'm not allowed to wear a hat,
every morning we send Brie a picture, like a full-length picture of ourselves.
Yeah, that's what I do.
can mark off our outfits and so she can be the best dressed.
Yeah, I had to tell them to stop sending nudes
because I was like, this is not the type of pictures that I've requested.
We got a bit confused.
She's relaxed the hat rules a bit.
She's allowing two hat maximum on the show each day.
And you guys have filled the quota.
Yeah, yeah.
I left my hat at home.
And I'm not allowed to wear hats.
That's another unspoken rule.
And when I'm wearing a bra, you can't wear a bra.
Yep.
Shoot, are you?
I'm never wearing a bra.
No, it's your turn today.
Okay, it's my turn.
Don't worry.
I never wear one.
We also, wait, it was my turn
Okay, so for context
Claudia and I take turns making you lunch
So today it was me
I made you a sandwich
What a lot of BS?
Tomorrow, what are you making,
Bray tomorrow?
I would stand for this.
Soup, do you like soup?
Oh maybe a lasagna, actually, I'll do a lasagna.
You have never in your life
made me lunch.
I will not stand for this slander.
I thought that was a pre-requisite.
I thought that's what.
Well, I know they're making your lunch
but I would never expect that from the girls.
No, we made that one up,
but the real rule is that Bree's actually 6'5,
but in all the photos and videos,
we make her a little bit shorter
just to like make her look normal size
because she's got an image to maintain.
So much Photoshop, let me tell you.
That one's double edge too,
because I'm insecure about being shorter than Bree.
So it pulls me up a bit, and it brings Bree down a bit.
It makes everyone happy.
It's like a lot of extra work for us.
I can't believe we're revealing all of these things.
This is crazy.
We also photoshop my boobs to be way smaller, so I'm less intimidating.
Well, proportionally, yeah, 6'5, that's a lot of boob.
Yeah, they're like pretty low to the ground.
Wait, wait, what?
I will not stand for this.
My one good asset, maybe my ass, yes.
My boobs are as perky as they always have been.
So how dare you say that about them?
You take that back.
Take it back.
Take it back.
Sorry, I apologize.
Take it back.
I apologize.
You know that's my one good thing.
It's a very good thing.
Now, unspoken rule, the last one, and this is a big one, so I'm a bit nervous to bring this up.
What else have you come up with?
Now, you admit it on the show that you pooped in the ocean.
Correct.
Off here, the unspoken rule is that you've done it lots of times, and we're not allowed to bring it up.
And lots of places.
Yeah.
The one she's okayed because she said it accidentally, but we don't talk about the other times.
We don't talk about the lake.
When you told.
The lake.
When you told me that we were doing
The fountain at the entrance of Tepapa
The bathtub in the hotel
When we talked about this before the show
And you were like oh we did we did this thing
And it was all going to be a bunch of lies
The Mission Bay Fountain
Claudia's dog pool
The Mission Bay Fountain
The Mission Bay Fountain one is true
The Bucket Fountain
Yeah they're not coins at the bottom of the pool
And the one in Wellington
I regret both those though
Big night you had
But we don't talk about it
But we don't talk about these rules
There are unspoken rules
We don't talk about them
So yeah
Good to clear the air
This was a trap
And can I just say
I do not consent to this again
Yeah unspoken
Yeah unspoken
A ZM's Brinklin podcast
God this name and a haystack thing
Is not going to go away
What are people saying on the text machine
My late mother Kathleen
Okay a K
would be so disappointed in you all.
Oh, and they said disappointed.
They're not even mad.
They're just disappointed.
Someone said if you were considering Catherine with a K,
then you should have accepted Kathleen.
But then lots of people saying it's...
That we have to stick to our guns, you know?
Because if you accept...
Sometimes when, you know, you're striving for greatness,
you need to be the bad guys.
100% you've got to be strict on yourself.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like, it's the same in anything.
It's hard and it's hard for a reason.
Yeah.
And it means when we do get the exact name in a haystack.
It's going to, this is part of the...
There'll be no discussion.
Yeah, we'll go, we're looking for Dan.
And everyone will know.
And they'll go, hello, Dan speaking.
And there it is.
And there it is.
And the moment we'll feel right.
Everyone will be on board.
Someone said, stick to your gun, guys.
don't ruin the game.
Okay.
Hey, thanks.
We appreciate that.
Thanks for the pep talk.
We appreciate that.
We appreciate that.
I can also appreciate people on the other side too.
Someone said you either find the needle or you don't.
And we didn't.
And we didn't.
That's why it's called name in a haystack.
Because it's hard.
Okay, let's get on with birthday banger.
Number one song when you turn 16.
We'll figure out three and play our favourite.
Mike's here.
Hi, Mike.
Hi, Mike.
Hey, how you doing, guys?
Good thank you, mate.
How's your day been?
Oh, hasn't been too bad.
Good day.
Good day.
We'll be better in a minute.
Yeah, I hear you.
I hear you.
What is your date of birth?
29th November, 1982.
All right.
That means you were 16, Mike, in 1998.
And back on that day, this was number one.
One, two, three, four.
How timely they've just announced a reunion tour to New Zealand.
If they have.
Yeah, you get five, Mike.
What do you reckon?
Oh, yeah.
Won't say no to that.
I think it's a good one, Mike.
Everyone loves a bit of five.
Okay, wait there.
We'll do Ann's birthday banger.
Hi, Ann.
Hi, Ann.
Hi, how are you?
Good, thanks.
What have you been doing today?
Just admin work.
Oh, yeah, a bit of life admin, hey?
Oh, yeah, I love it.
Don't we all
Before we do your birthday bagel
Do you think we were right
In our Kathleen, Kathy
Catherine decision
For naming a haystack
No
I was screaming at the radio
Give her the money
Yeah
But that's just because you wanted her
To have the money
Not because you think it was the right name
Right Anne
That's correct
Okay well that makes us feel a little bit better
We're just a-holes
But we're fair
But we're fair.
Anne's kind of right, though.
These are rules that we made up.
They're rules that we can break.
Yeah, that's true.
We're just choosing not to.
That's okay, you're sticking to your guns.
Yeah, we've got to stick to our guns.
It's a great point.
It's a great point from everyone.
Let's move swiftly along.
Anne, what is your birthday?
24th at the 10th, 1970.
All right, that means you were 16.
In 1986, we've done our calculations, Anne, and here's your birthday bank.
The night arise
She's a slice of heaven
It's a great birthday banger
And Dave Dobbin
Dave Dobbin
Foot Rock Flats
Very good
You happy?
Yeah, love it
Love it
Okay cool, wait there
Anne, we'll do one more for Stephanie
Hi Stephanie
Hi Stephanie
Hi there
What do you think?
Do you think yes or no?
You believe we made the right decision
Didn't we, Steph?
I agree to it, yeah
I agree with your decision
And it was a hard call, though.
It was very, very close.
Ah, Stephanie, a fellow A-Hel, a-hole, welcome to the show.
Thank you.
I like it.
Hey, mate, what is your day to birth?
27th of the 7th, 95.
All right, that means you were 16 in 2011, Steph.
And on that day, this was number one.
Oh, it's the one hit wonders.
The Wanted, glad you came.
I love it.
Yeah, me too.
Does Stephanie like it?
I love it.
It's so good.
It's an old school banger.
Okay, wait there, Steph.
We've got to choose between five Dave Dobbin and The Wanted.
All great songs.
Oh, it's hard.
I like them all today.
I quite like The Wanted.
Yeah, I think I'm going with Steph and the Wanted.
Glad you came.
It's a vibe.
Who would have thought.
Steph, you just won birthday banger.
Congratulations.
Woo-hoo, thank you.
And not just because you said that we made the right decision.
Yeah.
Definitely wasn't because of that.
Definitely not just because of that.
Here it is.
Thank you.
Steps' birthday banger from 2011.
It's The Wanted on Zem.
The stars come out and all I counts is here and now.
My universe will never be the same.
I'm glad you came.
That's the Wanted on ZM.
Brian Clint, the winner of Birthday Bangor for,
Stephanie from the year 2011.
Banger.
Wild to think that they were a one hit wonder.
Yeah.
Yeah, they tried hard.
That was such a good song.
Yeah.
I'm sure they would have had other bangers.
Claudia will know.
She looks like she's right in the wanted target audience.
They were a one hit wonder, weren't they?
I think on radio, yes.
But they had a huge following.
Oh no, a huge following.
Huge following.
We're just saying in terms of like having another hit like that.
Yeah, let me think.
They have a great song called Lightning that I really like,
but I don't think any other one really made it.
One of them tragically RIPed a few years ago, didn't he?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
Did we ever play all-time low?
The band.
From the Wanted?
Oh, that's why it's familiar to me.
Oh, what about chasing the Sun from the Wanted?
Oh, that sounds familiar.
Was that a thing?
No.
No.
Oh, wait, I do know this.
Oh, no, I do know this.
It sounds like glad you came.
You'll find I was chasing the song.
Yeah.
It's one and a half hit, one day.
You're right, it sounds like glad you came.
The sun goes down, the universe.
Why both their songs about the sun, eh?
Yep.
ZD.M's Bree and Clint Podcast.
Did you see the story about this Aussie couple
who are facing a bunch of fines
for putting some photos of Uluru
is rock on their Instagram?
Yeah, I did see this.
They're content creators, eh?
Yeah, they're kind of live in a van.
People, you know how there's a bunch of...
YouTubeers.
Yeah, and they travel around.
Make videos of their travels and then post them online.
They are Aussies.
Their names are Brit and Tom Cromy.
And they went to Uluru in the Northern Territory three months ago.
And they made some content about Uluru.
Anyway, they've now been issued a list of potential fines that they could be facing,
20 fines, in fact, because they have published images of Uluru without permission.
Isn't that interesting?
I didn't really realize, like I guess it makes sense for,
especially if they're making money.
Yeah, and I think that's what it comes down to.
Yeah.
No, well, that's what you think,
because I read this story as well and I watched a bit of their video
and she apparently said that it doesn't matter
if it's for commercial, if it's for your own personal Instagram,
if it's for anything, if you're taking pictures in certain areas
in Uluru, then you need a permit.
So I did a bit of Googling around.
There are certain parts of Uluru, you're right, that are sacred.
Excuse me if I get this wrong, but Anungu people hold it sacred.
You can photograph the big rock from most spots,
but there are some spots which are strictly off limits.
And they say they didn't know, and now they're in line for these fines.
I don't think they'll get fined.
It doesn't feel like they will.
But, God, do you.
research if you're going to go and make some content about
Urugu. It got me thinking about other
famous attractions around the world where you're not allowed
to take photos. Yeah, we're about
one of those attractions. Did you know you're not allowed to
take any photos of the Sistine Chapel
when you go into the Vatican? Did you go there
when you went to Rome? Nah, we didn't
go to the Sistine Chapel. It's the Sistine
Chapel that was painted by
Michelangelo? Yeah.
You can't take photos of it in there.
You're not meant to talk in there either
but people do. I think I did
know that. Yeah, yeah. And every
every 90 seconds or so
someone comes on the microphone and they goes,
be quiet, no photos.
And then everyone goes quiet
and then slowly the talking comes back up again
and then they go, be quiet!
No photos!
Anyway, no photos of the Sistine Chapel.
But anyway, like you're going to get a better
photo of the Sistine Chapel than already exists.
Like you're ever going to do it justice on your phone.
On your iPhone.
You're not allowed to take photos of certain parts
inside the Taj Mahal.
Did you know that?
No.
I don't think you're allowed
to take photos of anywhere
inside the Taj Mahal
because it's a mausoleum.
Yeah, I would assume
that you can take photos in there.
Yeah.
But the outside,
one of the most photographed buildings
on the planet.
Stunning. Yeah, yeah.
What a great photo.
You're not allowed to take photos
in the Valley of the Kings
in Egypt.
Which part's that?
So it's where all the ancient wall paintings
are and they reckon that the paintings
are so fragile
that flash photography can destroy the paintings on the walls.
And then the last one that I didn't realize is the Eiffel Tower.
You can take shots of the Eiffel Tower at daytime,
but if you take photos of the Eiffel Tower sparkling at nighttime
and you use them for anything that can be deemed commercial,
including your Instagram content, they'll find you for it.
Because they own the rights to the Eiffel Tower,
like the image of the Eiffel Tower like that.
That's wild.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And too far as well.
Yeah, that's too far.
Yeah.
You know, it's in a public space.
It's literally a landmark.
What about the catacombs?
The catacombs.
Oh, that's a good question.
They're in Paris as well, aren't they?
I feel like I've read somewhere that you aren't allowed to take photos in there anymore.
Like people used to and then they were like...
That's where all the skeletons and stuff are underneath Paris, right?
It says you can take photos down there, but there are big restrictions.
You can't use a flash because it will damage the bones and the carvings.
You can't take a tripod, a selfie stick or any professional camera gear down there.
And you're not allowed to take too many photos, they said, because it's a place of respect.
So you're not allowed to do like a full photo shoot down in the catacombs.
Yeah, like being respectful.
You can't do your street-styled vlog in the catacom.
You can't film your next music video down in the catacombs.
Now you know.
Okay, let's talk about Nazi stolen art.
You wanted it, you've got it.
I think you wanted to talk about it.
But I am, yes, I am.
You don't find this interesting?
I find this interesting.
Mate, you know that I'm a big fan of war history.
Yeah.
I like anything in war history.
I like shows.
I like movies.
For people that don't know,
Nazi stolen art.
Yes.
During that war, the Nazis stole a lot of art.
They stole a lot of art.
They stole a lot of gold.
They stole a lot of silver.
Yeah, yeah, they were stockpiling it.
And not all of the things were recovered.
Most of it wasn't recovered.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so over the years, bits and bobs have popped up from time to time.
Exactly right.
And this is one of those stories.
A bit and Bob has popped up.
Okay, I won't go into all of the details about this piece.
But the art was stolen by Herman Guring, who was the head of the Luftwaffe,
which is the Nazi Air Force.
He's a major, major part of World War II.
Anyway, his daughter lives in Argentina.
A lot of Nazis fled to Argentina after the war
so that they didn't have to go before the Hague.
Anyway, his daughter is currently selling her house.
As you do, when you put your house on the market,
some real estate agents come in and take photos of your house
so that they can put the listing on the internet.
Yeah.
In the photos of her house, which have been listed online,
there above the couch, is one of the priceless paintings
that her Nazi father stole during World War II.
And everyone's gone, hey, wait a second,
that's a priceless artifact that's been missing since World War II.
That's something she probably should have thought through a little more.
Yeah.
Do you reckon she knew?
Of course she knew.
I feel like she couldn't have not known.
And if she knows who her father is, who she absolutely does.
Everybody knows who her father is.
And you go, it's a beautiful painting.
I wonder where that came from.
Dad, where'd that painting come from?
And he's like, I don't want to talk about it.
Actually, I don't know if he ever lived there.
He probably got captured.
So she probably never got to talk to him about it.
Oh, my God.
But still, if it was a family heirloom.
What has the response been online?
So it's got to go.
It's got to go back to...
Of course it's got to go back.
It's stolen.
It's got to go back to the Dutch family who owned it originally.
It's called Portrait of a Lady.
I imagine it will go up for auction at some stage or to go in a museum.
Because it hasn't been seen since World War II, no one really knows what it's worth.
But I put it into ChatGPT.
And ChatGPT reckons it's worth between $300,000 to $600,000 plus this painting.
Holy smokes.
Yeah.
Wow.
Imagine that.
Imagine you're trying to buy the house and you're like, does the stolen Nazi artifact come with the house?
She's like...
Is that a chattel?
You know, it's when they try and put a McLaren with the sale of the house.
You also get this stolen Nazi art.
Yeah.
You know, it's like when people put up listing pictures
and they've taken the pictures themselves
and they're like naked in the mirror.
Yes.
This is like the Nazi version of that.
Anyway, secret stolen Nazi art.
I told you it was a good story.
We do love a Nazi stolen arts story.
Don't we?
Z&M's Brie and Clint
podcast
And that is the end of the show
We've got to get out of here
I've got two episodes of Taskmaster
to catch up on tonight
Last night's and tonight
Last nights and tonight
Back to back
But yes, new episode on at 730
TVNZ2 TVNZ Plus
Who's in the lead at the moment
Jackie Van Beak
Is in the lead
The points accumulate from every episode
Right?
Yes, yeah
Yeah
And at the end that's the person
Who wins the skull
Yes, the big Jeremy Wells' head
But you also have a winner of each episode
Yeah
Yeah
And so
Have you won an episode yet?
Nah
I've come last a few times though
Oh yeah, yeah
Yeah so I mean I kind of
It's kind of like winning in reverse
In the reverse way
Yeah yeah yeah
That's how I'm looking at it
Yeah yeah
Hey tonight might be the night
You never know
You never well I know
And she doesn't sound optimistic
But she knows
Taskmaster 730 TV 2
I'll get it on demand
and we'll catch you guys back tomorrow
Bye bye
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