ZM's Bree & Clint - ZM’s Bree & Clint Podcast - 30th September 2025

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

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Dead Am's Brie and Clint. What's going on, everybody? Bree and Clint, no Bree. She's still off-sick, hoping to be back with us tomorrow. How about that, Nicole Kidman's, being the lead story in the news today. Imagine if your divorce was the lead story on the news. You know what I'm hoping for?

Like, I hope she's okay. But also, remember her iconic photos when she got divorced from Tom Cruise? Yes, and she walked to the divorce office cheering. Yes, I want that part too. I think the difference there is that Tom Cruise was, I mean, don't quite me, a bit of an A-hole. Yeah. I don't think Keith Urban's an A-hole. No.

And I don't think Tom Cruise is an A-hole either. But that was, I think that might have been the Tom Cruise of the moment. I don't know. I don't know. It is sad, though. How long were they together? 19 years. 19 years. We were talking about this before the show.

And we are going to get Dean on our celebrity correspondent to pick the whole thing apart. I mean, it's the biggest story of the day, the Nicole Kidman divorce, clearly. It did get us thinking that if Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban aren't forever, maybe nothing's forever. All these iconic couples are breaking up. And I'm like, maybe nothing's forever. Yeah, the vibes are a bit low here. Breeze away as well. And that's just sparking rumours that Brie and Clinton are breaking up.

Oh, you can't break up. I know. You just got engaged. You literally got engaged. She's leaving me for Keith Urban. She's on a plane. You know who's going to be excited, Kaylee Bell. Oh, yeah.

She fricking loves Keith Urban. I actually haven't thought of that. And she's just released a new album, so she could be touring on doing something in America. Watch out, Keith. Big show on the way. We will give away a double pass to Jelly Roll this afternoon. How good. Jellyroll's looking good.

Yeah, he is, isn't he? He slimmed right down. He's doing a Megan Trainer. I mean, an extreme version of the Megan Trainer. He's kind of got matching teeth too, to be honest. If Megan Trainer, and I mean, this is not a comment on diet culture, but if Megan Traynor has to drop those lines from all about that base now that she's lost all the way, which she didn't have to do,

but she did drop the lines, does Jellyroll have to change his name? Is that what his name was about, though? I don't know, I assumed that. It was a childhood nickname. from his mum. Because there's a big fella. Jelly Roll. Yeah, yeah.

He was a squishy man. Maybe he could do a new era, reinvent himself. Anyway, he's coming to the New Zealand and if you want to see Jelly Roll live for free, we will play a jelly roll song between five and six, and if you're the first person through

on 0800 dial Z-M, you can have two free tickets to go and see him live in concert. Trady versus Lady next, where shock horror, the Trades have fallen behind again, but only by one, so they can draw it level again.

At some point, to take the lead, the tradies are going to have to win back-to-back games. And they have done that in the past. I know they can do it, but they'll have to do... They can't take the lead before Thursday on this show anyway. So, who's up for it? We need one tradie and one lady to call through and play. 50 bucks cash from KFC on the line.

But really, it's about the glory, isn't it? It's about the honour and the prestige. It's about the mana of a tradie versus lady victory. And if you want it, 0800 dial ZEM. We'll play next. Play Z-Dames, Bree and Clint. No, Bree, Trady versus Lady time. It's Trady versus Ladies.

Three, two, one, let's go. This is Trady versus Lady, where the ladies are ahead by one, just one. The scores are 79 Trades, 80 Ladies, and our lady today is calling us from Wellington. She's 20, and she was born on a Friday the 13th. Spooky, welcome to the show, Emma. Hello. Hello, Friday the 13th. Are you a goth?

No. No. No spooky elements. Do you like Halloween? Is it one of your favourite holidays? No, I guess that it tends kind of become a good luck, like a lucky number in our family. Oh, nice. You've owned it.

Okay, you're taking on our tradie today from Dunedin. He's 48 and his bengal cat says good night to him every night. Welcome to the show, David. Hey, I think. I know those bengel. they've got a hell of a meow on them, don't they? Yeah, yeah. Our boss, Ross Boss has got a Bengal, I think,

that he rescued from the desert in Dubai. They're a whole different kind of cat. Yeah. Yeah. I could go on with cat chat for hours. But we've got a game to play. David, your buzzer, is Trady. Emma, yours is lady,

and the first person to give me three correct answers gets $50 cash. Good luck, guys. Question number one. Lewis Hamilton, Ferrari Formula One driver is in the news today because he's had to put his dog down. What is the traditional colour of a Ferrari? Trady.

David. Red. Red. Rosso Corsa, in Italian racing red. One point, Trades. Question number two. Big news today that one of the world's top three most famous gingers, Nicole Kidman, is getting divorced from Keith Urban.

What country is Nicole Kidman from? Trady. David. Australia. Australia. Two points, tradies. Geez, your backs against the ropes already here, Emma. You're going to need to get this one, okay?

Yeah. It's the music question. Tell me who sings this song. I mean, I could, but why would I want to. Emma? Lady. Is it Selena Gomez? Well done.

She just got married yesterday or the day before or over the weekend. She's married. One point, ladies. Two points. Trades. Question number four, what was the name of the singing group that Camilla Cabello was a part of before she went solo? Yes, Emma. Was it Fifth Harmony? It was Fifth Harmony.

Geez, she's back in a big way. And we're at tiebreak. This is for the win. What is the name of the holiday here in New Zealand where we celebrate Māori New Year? David, David. Martyriki. Margariki's correct. Well done.

Oh, he's a wonderful in the past. David, you've won half the battle. You've got the tradies back to level. Congratulations. Thank you. There's $50 coming your way. Thanks to KFC.

You enjoy that. Thank you. Say hello to the cat for us. We'll do. We're all works in progress. Right. None of us are perfected ourselves. yet, right?

Speak for yourself. Oh, okay. My wife is very quick to let me know where I could do with some refining. That's good. I know, it keeps me humble. It does. I don't dare say the same thing back to her.

That's the correct choice. Which is the correct choice. You've perfected that, yeah, right? I've perfected my marriage diplomacy. But, look, I'll freely admit, I've got an issue with eating too fast. You guys... Oh, my gosh, you do.

You guys have witnessed it because you have to watch me. eat my lunch here at work? I mean, we don't have to, but you choose to eat in front of us. It's painful. It's painful for you. Imagine being my digestive system. Well, honestly, the sounds you make when you're like, gurgling down the food. Yes, it's disgusting, okay?

You're like a little piggy. I often think, you know how they have those messy mats for dogs, which slow them down where they have to like put their snout through the maze to get to the food? I often think my lunch should be in that. If you put a tortilla down, anything you drop will land in it, and then you've I've got a burrito to eat afterwards. My issue is nothing is falling. Oh, everything is going directly into my mouth.

I read something today, which has changed my whole perspective on eating. And look, I know this sounds stupid that a man in his late 30s should be learning how to eat correctly. But here I am. Here I am. Being vulnerable, okay? And offering and showing you my foibles. This thing that I read about, about, what was actually about, what's about digestion as a whole, actually. And I know this is very, like, basic stuff for people.

But some people will find this helpful, okay? Okay. It said, when eating, try chewing each mouthful at least 10 times. And we know that one. I know that one. Chew your food. Someone said, yeah, chew your food. Someone said 20 times to me once.

I just get bored with counting. It's the same with brushing my teeth, how you meant to keep the toothbrush on each tooth. Are you not brushing your teeth? Three seconds. No, I'm just, I am brushing my teeth. How long? Two minutes.

until my toothbrush buzzes me. Oh, okay. Yeah, you're good. No, no, that's not the bit. That's not the bit that blew my mind. The bit that blew my mind was the advice that you should try putting your fork down in between bites. So when you're eating, you take a mouthful,

you put it in your mouth, and then you place the fork down. Because, yeah, you usually just wave it around in your hand for a bit, like it's taken up a scoop. And then shove it, keep shoveling, keep shoveling. You've got a full mouth. It's disgusting. I am disgusting. It is disgusting.

Oh, I'm glad you finally realized. It said, put the fork down. and enjoy the surroundings in which you are consuming your food. Being more present. Be more present. Be aware of your surroundings. Yeah. So did you try this then?

I did. Okay. How to go? Very good. Any indigestion? No, indigestion. I did not choke on myself during my lunch today. God, you're gross.

Do you not have breakfast or anything? Is that why you're scuffing it down? I don't know. I don't know. If it's like a desperate or if it's like a big family thing, you know, they say children from big families. They're always worried that the food's going to get taken off them by another kids. They're like, hom, mum, mum, mum, mum.

If I eat it, you can't have it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I put myself out there now. Well done. And I thought we could ask you guys this afternoon on 0800 dial ZM. What is the thing that your partner needs re-house training on? What's the basic life skill that they should have mastered by now? And yet here you are explaining them which hand to hold the knife and fork in,

Which machine does the washing and which machine does the drying? I had to train my husband to not get grumpy when he was in work mode. And so in COVID, he fully was like, once work hit 9 a.m., I couldn't talk to him, I couldn't sit next to him, breathing on him. It was too much. And he's gotten a lot better. He's nice now. Yeah, good.

How to train your husband. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Movie coming to you soon. The less exciting version of it. of how to train you a dragon. Oh, 800 dials at M where you can text to 9696.9. It might be something that you know that you personally need the training on.

Or the pet project that you've got with your partner, the thing that they need retraining for. That is Franklin. I learned the mind-altering fact. What even is it? The idea that to eat your food like a normal human being, you should place the fork down between mouthfuls. It's honestly changed my whole perspective.

I am going to try it because I do eat faster. Have you got the same problem? I don't think I get indigestion, but I noticed that when we were out with my couple friends, Ryan and I, my husband, we finished first. You're finished too early. It's awkward, eh? And we have seconds. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I'm going to try out, let you know how it goes. Before we had kids when me and my wife used to still go to restaurants, I would be finished. I'd have to, like, slow myself down. Yeah. Like, I'd have to, like, take huge breaks because otherwise my meal would disappear. And it's boring when you're, like, done. And you feel like a bad person. So we want to know.

what do you have to train or retrain your partner to do? Ashley's caught up. Hi, Ashley. Hi, I. What's the thing that you're training? Is it your boyfriend? Yes. I'm trying to train him to text me back.

Oh, a classic. It's just he'll be off at work or whatever. And the only thing he will never ever reply to is if he's going to be at home tonight or not. Oh, really? It drives me mental. Is he non-committal? Is he like, oh, maybe I want to go out? Maybe I don't.

Is that what it comes down to? I don't know. I don't know, maybe it's just a time thing. Like, I don't want to really commit to that time that I'm supposed to be home. Have you considered sticking an Apple ear tag to him so you know where he is at all times? I have considered that. That's kind of the height of rudeness, actually, isn't it, to not text back about that? A little bit.

Like, you can have dinner ready and everything, and it's like, are you here or you're not here? So I'm just not bothered. Stop making it. Just stop making it, Ash. Yeah, I'm just like, well, you didn't text me back. You didn't text me back, so stuff you. Thanks, Ash. That's great.

We're asking, what did you have to retrain your partner about? Someone said how to clean the food scraps out of the catcher in the sink. Oh my God, that's one of the most disgusting parts of the house. It's just the bit that catches the food from going down the drain. I'm incessantly cleaning that thing. That's a good habit. I'm always tipping that thing into the food scraps bin. It's so gross.

Do you have an insincorator? Nah. Those are gross too. Because you're like, you just dump everything in it. But then you don't remember the fact that that gets dirty too. It does get dirty, yeah, yeah. I used to stick a whole lemon down my insincorator to clean it and then turn the insincorator on and then it was lemon fresh.

But no, I don't have an insincorator now. Claudia, we often joke about your living status, which is currently alone. Yeah, in a flat with other people. But is it nice, is it nice to not have anyone whose habits annoy you? The problem is... Everything in your life is done your way. To a point, the problem is that I live with other people

and I'm not in a relationship with them so I can't tell them what to do. So they have the same habits as a partner would, but they're essential a stranger. But you have no say. I have no say. And so I just have to live in it instead. You can't passive-aggressively moan to them

because they'll be like, see ya. Yeah, and things, if you do ask them, like, hey, can you tidy up after yourself? You then have to live to that same standard. And I'm not prepared. Which you don't have to do in a relationship. You can bitch and moan about things in a relationship and then not do them yourself.

Do as I say, not as I do. That's so true Okay, thanks everybody Brian Clint We're going to get the goss On the Nicole Kidman Keith Urban divorce If there is any goss

Dean McCarthy will know If there is any What happened? Do you guys reckon Keith cheated? No You don't reckon? Nah You don't reckon?

I think they've just been together So long they grew apart Well, you reckon 19 years Is the limit? Yeah, not quite 20 You can tell why she's the single one AEL She doesn't believe in love anymore It's like everything will end

Z.N.' Let's get to L.A. and get the Goss with D. McCarthy. The T, live from L.A. with D. McCarthy. This is a real shock headline that came through today, Dean, and it's the biggest story in Hollywood. Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman are getting divorced. Yeah, separated for now. I'm so sad to be reporting this,

but let me just tell you what we know so far. So 19 years, Clint, they've been married. 19 years in Hollywood? I mean, you know, they have two beautiful children together. They have, they're both so kind and loving, and everyone tells me that in Hollywood. So what's happened is Keith Urban moved out of their marital home in Nashville. He actually already has his own place. He got a second place.

He's living there. It was his decision to separate. Nicole Kimman, apparently, according to my sources, wanted to try and make it work. So that is what multiple sources said. Wow. She wanted to make it work. Yeah. But he has called for separation.

No plan. or word on an actual divorce just yet. But honestly, we're all so surprised by this. As you know, I spent a lot of time with Keith when we did American Idol and obviously Nicole just I've interviewed her a million times. Both of them are the nicest people you've ever met in all your life. I'm really shocked. I'm really shocked.

Keith, they're both, they're both Aussies. Keith was actually born in New Zealand. And he seems like a very, I know he's Hollywood and everything, but he seems like quite a grounded, normal dude. Yes. You know what? That's the best way to describe. He's such a grounded normal dude.

And she, even though she's one of the biggest stars in the world, she's also very grounded and normal and sweet and humble. Like, I don't know. I don't know what happened. I mean, I'm just throwing this out there. Her film schedule has been wild. I mean, she's been very busy to last year. Her career has popped off again, hasn't it?

She's doing all these film and TV projects against you, that Nine Perfect Strangers thing, which is a wild show. It's sad news. Has anyone seen the person who, coincidentally at the same time, has popped up on TikTok claiming to be Nicole Kidman's daughter that she's never acknowledged. Have you seen this person, Dean? No, I haven't seen that. It's total bullshit, but it's crazy, it's crazy timing.

She's just, she's just ginger. She's kind of vaguely, she's ginger, she's got pale skin, curly ginger hair. And she's like, Nicole Kidman is my mother. She kept me locked in the basement for the first 15 years of my life. Wow. Yeah, which is weird timing. Yeah, that sounds like Nicole. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

Maybe Keith found out, and that's why he had to get out. Anyway, that's the tea on the Nicole Kidman, Keith Urban Divorce. Very sad news, and it's straight up from Dean McCarthy in Los Angeles, our Hollywood correspondent. Dead Am's Bree and Clint podcast. Lewis Hamilton is in the news today, legendary Formula One driver. He currently drives for Ferrari. He's in the news because he's had to put his dog down.

It's very sad. Lewis is 40 Yeah, I know right Lewis Hamilton's 40 Yeah Wow The dog The dog's not 40

No the dog is not 40 I was like That's a Guinness World Book of Record Yeah yeah This is not a sad story This is a happy story The dog made it to 40 No Lewis Hamilton

The driver Is 40 He's not married He doesn't have kids And he said his bulldog Rosco was his best friend Oh that's sad They were together like all the time

I know And I often I'm sure he doesn't doesn't want it reduced to this, but I always look at these guys, these people rather, who are so committed to the cause that they haven't done anything else, or not that he hasn't done anything else in life, but you know,

like he's so single-minded. He's Formula One, Formula One, Formula One, doesn't mean you don't get lonely, and so he had Roscoe, and now he doesn't have Rosco. Oh, poor little guy. Poor little guy, the dog. Oh, the dog. Poor little Lewis. Poor little Lewis. Oh, the guy, Lewis. I think you do

have to be quite little to get into those Formula One, But yeah, we're talking about the dog. Lewis put out a statement for the dog, saying after four days on life support, fighting with every bit of strength he had, I had to make the hardest decision of my life and say goodbye to Roscoe. He never stopped fighting right until the very end.

I got to put this out here. Yes. I didn't really consider the fact that pets could be on life support. Neither did I. Neither did I. Was the dog sick? Sorry, I pulled my headphones out. What'd you say?

Was the dog sick? Like, was he old? No, they didn't put him on the life support because he was doing well. No, shut your face. Honestly. I know he wasn't doing well, but how? Like, was it? Oh, I don't know.

I don't know. That's private medical information for the dog. I don't know. I've found the same clarity about the life support thing. And so I've done a bit of investigation into how much it costs to put an animal on life support. So I use chat GPT. Of course. And it estimates that four days, which is what Roscoe, Lewis Hamilton's bulldog got,

four days for a dog on life support in the UK is between 6,000 and 12,000 pounds, which is as much as $27,000 for the four days on life support. And the dog still died. That's a good chunk of money. Yeah. I suppose he has a lot and lot of... So this is where it gets interesting. You can.

If you're Lewis Hamilton and you're on a... 100 million plus a year, you don't care. No, you just want to save your friend. You do want to save your friend. You do want to save your friend. But I mean, that's a lot of money. That's a lot of money. And often, often, especially if it's your best friend,

often you just need time to make the decision. And if you can afford the time, then. Do we know how old the dog was? 40. Yeah, 40. Didn't you listen? Yeah, how old was the dog? I'm not actually sure how old the dog was.

I think he was a British bulldog, right? And they have a few health. He was a bulldog. Yeah. With the squishy nose. And he lived in Britain. So, yeah, I guess he's a British border. I wonder if he drowned.

I know a bulldog that my friend was looking after. And he ran into a lake. What a rogue connection. Are they not good swimmers, bulldogs? No, they sink. Not funny. Not funny. But they're massive.

I'm fascinated by how much people are willing to spend on their pets. We did the same thing with our cat Ziggy, who also ultimately died. You spent 30 grand on her? No, not 30 grand. Ziggi was 40 years old. God up. Get that cat. Yeah, we spent 30 grand on her over 40 years.

It's pretty good actually. No, but we spent thousands of dollars on this cat who had a weird mystery bacteria. Oh, yeah, didn't she pee everywhere? Yeah, she did all kinds of things. And then also ultimately died. How old was your cat? When we put her down? Seven.

Oh, that is young. Yeah, I guess. thing. Yeah. I want to hear from people who got a crazy medical bill for their pet. Cat dog, horse, horse, God, horse bills would be out the freaking gate. Or just actually any pet bill. Did you pay a crazy amount of money to relocate an animal from overseas?

Or did you get a quote for it? And you're like, no. No, we're not spending this on an animal. I know rural folk and town folk will have different opinions on the amount of money that should be spent on the animal. And I guess it depends on the animal as well. The ZM Podcast Network. We're talking about Lewis Hamilton,

who has had to put his dog down this week, who was on life support for four days. We don't know the actual cost, but chat GPT estimates the cost of keeping a dog on life support for four days could be as high as $27,000. Not necessarily. Someone texted in and said that their dog was on oxygen overnight, like a tube down the throat

and sometimes that counts as life support but even that tube overnight and their dog cost them two grand for one night on the oxygen so we're asking what's the crazy amount of money that you had to spend chose to spend or asked to spend

on an animal? Sophie's here hi Sof what's the animal first of all what are we talking about he's a dog okay what kind of dog Palm Ski Cross with a griffin Okay, sounds expensive What was the bill?

Six grand for one night In Doggy Hospital Yeah We got home and he was foaming at the mouth And having seizures So we had to take him to an emergency vet And yeah, we're a little bit shocked by that What did he eat in?

They have no idea They had to pump his stomach And do all that kind of thing and but, I mean, we'd do it again. He's our little boy's best made. Well, that's the question I need to ask. Because Lewis Hamilton spent all this money and his poor dog still didn't make it. Did your dog make it?

He did. Hell yeah. Yeah, absolutely fine. Okay, six grand. I think it's at the light end of the scale. Let's go to Chavon. Hi, Chavon. Hi, how are you?

We're good. This is your parent's dog that they spent a crazy amount of money on. Is that right? Yes, that's correct. Okay, give me the details. So he's been run over twice. Oh, okay, not by your parents. Once by my dad.

Oh. And then once by one of his workers. Okay, yeah. So he, yeah, got run over twice, got since their small animal vet emergency twice. Yeah. Once in Hamilton, once in Auckland. Okay. And they've spent upwards of $25,000.

Oh, 25 grand. Yeah. 12 and a half grand. They're a very loved dog. Oh, absolutely. And if they're empty nests. That dog is their baby now, isn't it, Chavon? Absolutely, yeah.

He's 16 years old now. Plus, if you're the one that ran it over, you would feel so guilty. No, no, no, no, no, your dad, you know? Like, he's in there, he's running over, and your mum's like, you better bloody pay for it. You bloody ran him over. Yeah, absolutely, yeah. Okay, and he's still with us? That dog's still okay?

He is, he's retired. He was a working dog. He comes up, he went to work with my dad. Yay. But he's retired now. He lives his best life. He gets everything that he wants. Good news.

the $25,000 robot dog. Thank you, Chabon. Annie's here. It's our first cat in the very expensive pet segment. Hi, Annie. Hello. Give us the details.

I'm listening to our first time call us. Oh, there you are. Welcome to the show, Annie. Great to have you here. Thank you. What's the details? What did you have to spend on your cat? So about 20,000 in total so far.

so we got a rescue tap from Auckland when we moved here and three months later she got poisoned so we spent about thousand on that before we insured her and then we moved back to the UK thinking it was for good so we thought well we'll take her and it was during COVID times so we had to pay through the nose for that so that was 10,000

did the Ken have to do two weeks in a COVID hotel no not going to the UK But then we only stayed there for a year So within a year we came back and thought Well, we can't leave her there Because she hated the cold And she was grumpy only Since seeing poisoned

She became the grumpiest cat ever And so we paid another 10,000 to bring her back And my husband can't It cost $10,000 to relocate a cat From the UK to New Zealand Yeah Wow And you have to do quarantine

when you come back this way. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. And she's still grumpy, and she walks out of the room when you walk into the room. She's just not a friendly cat. You're like, for 20 grand, I expect a bloody hello. Thank you very much.

Yeah, pretty much. I mean, this seems like a strange thing to say, but 20 grand well spent? I think so. There it is. My husband doesn't. Yeah, he's like, well, that wins me a motorbike. Well, then he doesn't get to pat the cat. You know?

Exactly. Not that your cat wants pets. Anyway, thanks, Annie. Let's go to Kirsten. I know $800 at him. Hi, Kirsten. Hello, how are you? I'm good.

I'm looking at your numbers. Yours is outrageous. Yours is out the gate. We're talking about a dog. Give us the details. How much money have you spent on this dog? Yeah, so I only calculated this myself a couple of months ago and was shocked. So she's 15.

For the first couple of years of her life, she's going to doggy daycare, $300 a week. I did that for a few years. I moved to Australia and then back so relocation costs and then she had quite a few like health issues and specialist visits over the years.

So total came to close to 100K. Does it blow your mind when you work it out like that when you go? Oh my God. Oh wow. I could have a deposit on my house now. I've spent a house deposit on my dog. Yeah.

Yeah. So crazy. I mean. Is it your best friend? Is the dog your best friend? Yeah, she's my world. She's my baby. Yeah.

But at the start of that dog's life, if someone had said to you, this dog is going to cost you $100,000 over how old is the dog? She's 15. Oh, it's not too bad. I mean, you break it up like that. What are we looking at about $8,000 a year on the dog? It's still a lot. Well, good on you, Kirsten.

We appreciate you. you calling through. Someone here has said they spent $3,500 repairing their rabbits, broken leg. A broken leg on a rabbit for $3,500. Someone spent $9,000 for 24 hours in the hospital for their dog. 40 grand to bring a horse over from North America worth every penny. And then some people who got these crazy bills and they couldn't pay it. And that's the flip side of it, right? If you don't have the money and you can't pay it, then you have to make that horrible decision, which is where pet insurance is bloody good. I've found that pretty good.

I mean, it didn't work with our cat, Ziggy. She was so sick that she burned through the pet insurance, and like we said, still ultimately died. But you don't know these things. You don't know these things at the start, do you? You don't know whether they're going to make it or not. Grim.

But that's life. Thank you for your messages. And shout out to all the very expensive of pets out there and the $100,000 dogs listening to ZM. It's ZDM's Brea and Clint podcast. I really like the new Justin Bieber sound. It's good, simple.

Do we think he got an invite to Selena Gomez's wedding? No. No? True, I didn't invite my ex to the wedding either. Stupid question. Yeah, that was really silly. Are you a bit of a belieber then? Am I a believer?

Yeah. I've never been anti the bebes. But now you said you really like him, so you're a believer. No, I said, no. You're a believer? You like his music. He's just softy now, I think. I think he would turn into him into...

I'm not a believer, but I'm not... So you are a believer. Jesus. No, we're moving on. This is Let's Get Classical. Me versus Ella, guessing songs in classical style. I'm looking at the entries that have come through or the people that have been selected.

or whoever's text in for the winner, 95% of messages coming through, going for Ella. No pressure. So, yeah, there is no pressure on me. Thank you, I'll tell you. I'll do you proud. Will you?

Yep. Will you crumble? Never. Claudia's in charge, Claudia. I have put together what I think might be slightly harder than usual game, but we shall proceed. This is Let's Get Classical.

It's pretty simple. These are pop songs redone in a classical style. and Clint and Ella are guessing what they are. Pretty simple. Are you ready? God, I hope it's all Justin Bieber songs. Because you're such a believer. You would say that.

Here's your first song. Oh. Oh. I know it. Oh, it's very topical. Very topical. Can we get another clue? Um, we were just talking about them.

It's not Justin Bieber. Clint. Selina Gomere's hands to myself. Correct. Oh my gosh, of course. Oh, you're kidding me. I heard that little bit that went, I mean, not good, but.

way what I want to. Damn, well done. Okay, kind of a fluke. Only got it off the clue, but yeah. Really harder than usual. Yeah, one point for Clint, but here's another one. Ella! Ella, say-so, Joja Cat.

She got it. Woo! I recognized it. I still wouldn't have got it. What a bag of The first time Doja Cat Has ever been played on a piano, do you reckon? It works quite well though

Okay, tie break Ella Did you expect us to be here? Yes, let's go You did expect it, did you? Yeah, I thought so I thought it could happen Yeah Okay

I'm humble Oh, Ella Ella I need Rockstar smash mouth What what? Hey So close.

I knew you were going to say that. No. All-Star by Smashmouth. Oh, bum. He got it. That's not right. That's right. It's right.

You're an all-star. Get your game on. Go play. Hey now. You're a rock. What is that? What is that? All-star.

All-star. Vinny, I can't believe you backed me for the win. And it's done you well this afternoon. You've got 50 KFC chicken dollars. Thank you so much, Clint. You never doubted me, eh? No, I believed in you all the way. You're a Belieber.

You're a Clint Roberts Belieber. And Clint, I saw you at the rugby game. Did you? Did you come down to the fan zone before the All Blacks game? Yeah, I got my T-shirt signed. By Scott Barrett? Yep. How good, what a great day, eh?

Yeah. Sweet as fun. Hey, you enjoyed that KFC, okay? Thank you. sweet as is ZM's Brinklin podcast Time for another round of Brooke Explains

Brook Explains Brook explains Brooke has become the person I defer to when I want to know about something And when I need to know something I'll ask you Yeah okay Fair

When I can't be bothered asking chat GPT I go hey Brooke can you research this thing for us And I give way more of a realistic human like us answer then chat gbt i like to think so yeah yesterday it was announced that bad bunny is going to be the super bowl half-time show at the next one he was far from the favorite taylor swift was actually the favorite um as far as the bookies were concerned to do the half-time show adele was whispers as well really like fake AI images were spreading all over twitter yeah yeah but no they've gone with bad bunny

so today i've got you in to answer a very simple question brook who's bad bunny the question on one's lip. Who is Bad Bunny? I first found out about Bunny, Bad Bunny, when he featured on this song with Cardi B called I Like It Like That. That's right, yeah. And then he dated Kendall Jenner and then I found out about him again. He looks like Devin Brooker in sports terms. He, I don't know who Devin Brooker is But he's, Bad Bunny's very handsome He is extremely good looking Tall Dark and handsome

Puerto Rican Puerto Rapper, songwriter He is One of the biggest streamers And I just think Kiwis Maybe don't think he's a big deal Because he's not a big deal here This is exactly why we're talking about it

Yeah He's not a big artist in New Zealand Surprise, surprise So we don't think that he's a big deal But he had the biggest global streams on his latest album, 2 billion streams on Spotify, making him the first to do that with an album in history. He headlined Coachella last year.

Yeah. Which you don't get to do if people don't know who you are. But a lot of... And I know there's people listening to this right now going, oh my God, how do you guys not know Bad Bunny? I reckon four out of five people don't know Bad Bunny yet. Yeah. Right?

Yeah. But I've watched a few of his stage performances. He's obviously in some sense filling the boot of Kendrick Lamar. Oh, how do you reckon? Because Kendra Kumar performed at the last half-time show. Yeah. And he's going to perform at this half-time show.

Yeah. So you kind of want to up the ante or stay on that same wavelength. Yeah. He's not, I can't see him doing the big shenanigans. A lot of people were saying for a bad bunny halftime show, he'll bring out a lot of his collaborators that he's worked with. Oh, okay. Cardi B, Drake, Travis, oh, hopefully not Travis Scott.

Well, he could. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Dancers, Puerto Rican dancers. Does Bad Bunny have any songs in English? Yes. He does? Yes.

Okay. But I'm going to say 90%... But mostly not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He has, like, a lot of his earlier songs. Right. A couple of English, but, like, his latest album, full. Yeah.

So that's going to be interesting for the crowd. Yes. The crowd work is going to have to be really spot on from Bad Bunny. Mm-hmm. To get a bunch of Americans. It's such a big stage. And I've always thought it has to be, like, such a crowd pleaser. Like, it has to be, like, like,

like that's just something for everyone. Yeah. But then Kendrick Lamar last year, I reckon four out of five football fans probably didn't know who Kendrick Lamar was before that performance. Yeah. So.

And that got them rocked up. Yeah, right. Okay. Yeah. Anything else? I, well, I'm surprised with the pick for Bad Bunny, for the political state that America's in to pick Bad Bunny.

But also, I feel like, like, wouldn't they just want a country singer? But American fans would just want some, I don't know Oh no you're so right You're so right Guitar strumming It would have been the easy choice Yeah

To get Luke Combs out there Right exactly Yeah yeah yeah Yeah but that doesn't get So good on the Super Bowl For doing something Yeah Different

Yeah good on the Super Bowl And Apple music In Apple music Yeah yeah Questions Ella No I just saw this online Apparently Jay Z picks the act Yeah he does

Super Bowl act Yeah but he still has to get signed off By the NFL They still have to approve it Ah Yeah but Jay Z's rock nation and produces the halftime show, which is why they had Rihanna.

It's how they got. No way! Yeah, so I thought I'd sprinkle that fun fact in, but very interesting, Brooke. Is that why he wouldn't have picked Taylor Swift? No, Jay-Z and Taylor Swift were right, aren't they? What's Jay-Z got against Taylor Swift? Ah, nothing, nothing.

Just hate to see another woman doing well, you know how it is other than his Queen B. Jeez, shots fired. That's Brooke explains. Rock Explains What did Jay-Z ever do to you? He hate to see me doing well. I was taking over Queen Bee's Hive.

Um, Bad Bunny. Also Adam Sandler's Caddy in Happy Girlmore 2. Oh yeah, yeah, he is too. That's probably his most public claim to fame here in New Zealand. Play Z-Eams, Bree and Clint. No, Bree today, she's off sick, which is a shame because it's a Tuesday. It's a Tuesday? Yeah, and I'll choose as we go searching for a name in a haystack.

Oh, we didn't get to sing it. A name in a haystack. See, we need Brie here. We're going to do it. We have to do it. Yep. But I mean, if it goes today and Bree's not here, I'll feel guilty about it. Me too.

Yeah, we said that last week as we are when you're away, Clint. We just don't want it to go. Oh, my God, I missed last week's one. Yeah. Well, we're at $2,100 cash for this game. And if you've never heard of it, if you've never heard it, One of our producers comes up with a name, independent of the other producer who comes up with a business. And if the person with that name answers the phone when we call that business,

that person is going to instantly win $2,100. You could buy a washing machine with that. You could buy a washing machine with that. And a phone. You could buy a washing machine and a dryer with that. And some chickens. And some chickens. Okay.

Who's got the name for us this week? I do. Today I want to search for a hot, sexy breeder. Bridgett. What if she's not hot or sexy? Well, she still wins. Yeah, she still wins. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We won't ask those questions. No, we'll just assume. Yeah. If we get a stinky Bridget, that's also fine. Yeah. Claudia, where does Bridget work? I'm going down to, I think, quite a fun location. Today, we're going to Lannock Castle in Dunedin.

Larnet Castle. Larnet Castle. Yeah, okay. What's that? New Zealand's only real castle. Really? Yeah. Beautiful location.

You can stay there. I do tours of Larnet Castle, beautiful grounds at Larnet Castle. King and Queen live in there once. Yes. No. No, I think a... A princess. May have?

Lord lived there. I just connect the phone call, okay? We're looking for Bridget, and if she answers the phone at Larnet Castle today, she wins $2,100. Good luck to all of us, but not too much luck, so I don't want it to go a breeze away. A little bit.

Thank you for calling Lana Castle. Please hold, and we're with you as soon as possible. Do we think that was... Is that Bridget? That was the Lord? Of the manor. The master? Yeah.

No, he's not answering his own phones, surely. Good afternoon. Welcome to Larnock Castle. You're speaking with C.J. How can I help? Oh, hi, C.J. It's Brian Clint calling from ZM Radio Station. How are you? Hi, I'm good. Thank you. And yourself? Well, thank you. I hate to be the bearer of bad news. We play this game called Name in a Haystack. And if your name was Bridget when you answered the phone, you would have won $2,100 today. Well, that's a shame. There's no one that works here that's called Bridget. It's a real shame. I know. Well, it's better that no one works there because they still wouldn't have won.

even just for working there. So then I'd have to say, you'd have to tell Bridger that if she'd picked up the phone, she would have won, it would have become a whole thing, but anyway, it wasn't to be. Oh, worse.

How's Larnet Castle today? It's great, thanks. Yeah? Yeah. Anything exciting going on? Any exciting guests staying at the moment? No, not today. No.

Okay. Well, I'll leave you to it, C.J. Thank you for your time. Thank you so much. All right. Okay. Okay, see ya. Okay, bye.

Oh, well, there we go. Not even close. Not close. And I think CJ wanted to wrap us up, too, so. A little. How's the castle? Yeah, good. It's fine.

Any guests? No. No. No, she was lovely, but yeah. I've never been to Larnet Castle. Neither. It looks awesome though. Does it snow in Dunedin?

Because being in a snowy castle would be really cool. I believe it can snow in Dunedin. Wow. No, it's too close to sea level. No, it snowed in Auckland once. Wouldn't be surprised. I saw that. Snowden and rode a real one.

Yeah, wow. Okay. Namman Haystacks survives another week. $2,150. Next. ZDM's Brie and Clint podcast. No Brie today. Someone texted and said,

Hey guys, did Brie party so hard after that Broncos win that she's got a two-day hangover? No, but she's hoping to this coming weekend when we go to Sydney. So, stand by. She's just unwell at the moment, hopefully back with us tomorrow.

I have a neighbour out where we live who has decided that it's time for them to pick up the bagpipes. And I'm not anti-bagpipes. I want to say that from the start. I know some people are passionately anti-bagpipes. But I'm not. We're actually deep in watching the TV show Outlander at the moment.

And, I mean, it's got us excited about everything Scottish, particularly my wife. But what I can't tell the difference between is good bagpipes and bagpipes, which might sound slanderous to the bagpipe community, but I don't know. And that's why we've got a man who knows his bagpipes on the phone. Ross, good afternoon. Good afternoon. How are you doing, Clint? Doing well. Are you a Scotsman, Ross? I sure am, yes.

What part of Scotland do you hail from? I'm from a small island on the west coast of Scotland called the Isle of Aron. Okay. Yeah. It's beautiful. And do you pipe? Do you pipe? I do. Yes, I've been playing the bagpipes.

It got pretty patriotic when Braveheart came out and decided to pick up the bagpipes Is that one did it for you? The movie Braveheart going into the bagpipes. That's pretty cool. Sure it was, yeah. Yeah, so did the bagpipes then. Have you watched Outlander and how true to life is that show? I haven't watched it enough to comment, I would say.

Okay. Yeah, I guess I've been priced my bagpipes instead of watching that one. Fair enough. Okay, so my neighbour's now into the bagpipes, and they started playing them at 8 o'clock at night on Sunday, And I was like, strange time, seems time to pick up an instrument like that. Because there's no quiet way to play the bagpipes, is there, Ross? Not the bagpipes, no.

There is a practice chanter, which a lot of people learn the bagpipes by playing the practice chanter first. Okay. And it usually takes up to, you know, it takes months to learn that first and then onto the bagpipes after. So it's a good effort to get onto the bagpipes after. In the first place. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, six months. Yeah, six months of learning. So, yeah. Well, I'm going to play you. I went out with my phone this afternoon around lunchtime because the pipes fired up again. And I'll say Tuesday at lunchtime, perfectly acceptable time to be bagging on the pipes. But I'm going to play you what I've recorded. You're going to have to listen quite carefully.

But you tell me if this is an experienced piper or if this is someone who has no idea what they're doing, okay? Sure. Okay, this is what I'm getting from my neighbour. I love the bad. The Inver just going to be able to here, Ross. pretty good effort. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, some nice techniques there. No, they did really well. Are they new to their bagpipe journey though? Because what I'm

saying is I don't know, I can't really tell the difference. Is that someone who's learning the bagpipes? I say it's a bit of in-between. A bit of in-between. That would be my honest opinion. Yep, yep. They've maybe just decided to pick them up and get them going again or they've, yeah, or they're just practicing just to get things right.

So, no, a really good effort. 100%. Where do you get a set of bagpipes from? If someone listening to this has gone, you know what? I want to do that. I want to be in the Christmas parade. I want to be in there with the band.

Where do you even get a set of pipes from, Ross? Yeah, so, yeah, if you're wanting to get into the bagpipes, the Invercargo pipe band, they're always looking for new recruits. Yeah. So that's a good place to start. And they actually offer a set of bagpipes if they're available for you to borrow

until you can actually buy your own. So obviously a lot of bagpipes They get imported over from Scotland And there's a place in Timaru That actually sells the bagpipes as well And a few others as well around New Zealand too Oh, there you go But yeah

So Invercargo Highland Pipe Band Is a good place to start, that's for sure Ross, our resident bagpipe expert Thank you very much I appreciate your time Oh, you're very welcome Thanks very much No worries

Brian Clint, we're into a birthday bangor next If you'd like to know the number one song on the day that you turned 16, we can do that for you now. That is, Franklin. All I want to my birthday is the birthday banger. We haven't given away those jelly roll tickets. If you're hanging out for those, they will go before 6 o'clock when we play a jelly roll track. Right now, though, we're going to do a birthday banger, which is the number one song on the day that you turned 16, and Brad's going to go first. Kura, Brad's.

Hi there. How's your day, been? Oh, yeah, pretty good. Yeah, beautiful. Okay, let's do your birthday banger. Brad, what's your day to birth? 12th of the 7th, 1990. Okay, Brad, you were 16 on the 12th of July 2006.

And on that day, this was the number one song. Lily Ellen smiled. She was one of the biggest stars in the world in 2006. What do you reckon about that for your birthday banger? It's all right. It's all right. We'll wait to see what the others are first, I think. What are you hoping for?

I'm trying to think it was big in 2006. Justin Timberlake. Would you have been happy with Justin Timberlake? Yeah, probably better. Yeah. Okay, no, fair enough. Wait there, Brad. We're going to Jesse, who's going to do their nephew's birthday banger.

Hi, Jesse. Hello. It's for Madison, and it's 30 for September, 2014. for 2009 and he turned 16 today. Today, oh, happy birthday. Did you say Madison? Yes, it is. Happy birthday, happy 16th birthday, Madison.

You're 16 today, and the number one song today is Olivia Dean. What do you reckon, guys? It's okay. What were you hoping for? It's got to be something that's big right now. What's your favourite song right now? I do like Justin Bieber. Justin Bieber would have been good.

Big Belieba. Me too. Okay, wait there, Jesse. You're a nice auntie for doing that for medicine. We're going to do Ashley's birthday banger last. Hi, Ash. Hi. How's your day been?

Not bad, yourself? Pretty good. Yeah, going well. You're the last birthday banger of the day. What's your date of birth? Fourth of November, 1992. Okay, Ashley. You were 16 in 2008.

And on your 16th birthday, this was the biggest song. Kings of Leon, sex on fire. What do you reckon? Still a season, a banger back then. Still a great drinking song. It's a great drinking song. great driving song. It's a great wedding song.

Okay, wait there. We're going to decide between Lily Ellen, Kings of Leon and Olivia Dean. I might bring in your help today, Cordia. And I will caveat this by saying, we're going to play that Olivia Dean song in like 10 minutes. Great point. I do love that song, though. And we can dedicate that to Madison when that happens.

That's easy enough to do. So really, Kings of Leon or Lily Ellen? I feel like it's Kings of Leon for me. I feel like it's Kings of Leon. It's going to be Kings of Leon. It's going to be Kings of Leon. Ash, well done. You're the winner of birthday banger today. Bang.

Reportedly, a song about STIs. STDs, what are you supposed to call them these days? Bernie downstairs. You know what I mean. It's also Ash's birthday banger from 2008. Z-M. Kings of Leon on ZM, Brian Clint. That is the winner of birthday banger for Ashley.

It was number one on the 4th of November 2008. ZD.M's Brean Clint podcast. This next story is about wine, which is completely coincidental. There are three types of stories that will always make this show. Stories where they say that chocolate is good for you. Stories about... Planes and boats. Oh, four.

Okay, yeah. Anything to do with paying. and boats, we'll always make the show. And space. Space news, yeah, yeah, yeah. You were quite hot on fish news for a while. Fish news. Okay, there's a low bar for content on this show, okay?

We'll pretty much talk about anything. I like the stories about how much alcohol is good for you, but I generally like it when they're like, you should have two glasses of wine a night. I'm like, yeah, I should. I deserve it. And if it's good for my heart, so be it. That's just a bonus.

This is not one of those stories. And this is going to be a tough listen for wine drinkers to be. honest. But, you know, take it with a pinch of salt and a glass of wine. Dr. Anya Topiwala. Crushed it. Nice. I haven't even been drinking. Studies the effects of alcohol on the brain, specifically. Not your whole body, not your liver. Who cares about that part? Yeah, who cares about that part? Getting you liver. Where am I going to get a new brain? She studies alcohol's effects on the brain at Oxford University. So she's... Reliable. You'd argue, yeah. Yeah, you'd hope so. What do we learn from COVID?

Trust experts or something. Believe scientists. Go on a walk. Yeah, yeah. Spread your legs. And don't talk to your conspiracy cousin. Okay, I'm going to hit you with three facts. They're going to shock you about wine.

Okay, I'm ready. From this person, Anya. First of all, how much wine do you drink? I'm not much of a wine drinker. No? Yeah, every now and then. Every now and then. How much wine a week do you drink?

Oh, a glass. Okay. Yeah. Ella, how much wine are you drinking? Yeah, only if it's an event Or if I'm offered it But I like it Three glasses of wine

According to Dr. Anya Three glasses of wine per week Starts to shrink your brain What? Shrink it? Shrink it It's ridiculous Mine's already quite small

Six glasses of wine per week That's just per week That's not even a glass of night Iron begins to accumulate in your brain And that's not a good thing What? It's not like we need iron in our bodies. You don't want iron in your brain.

This is bad news, man. 12 glasses of wine a week. It's quite a lot. Which I would put at the upper end, too. How big is a glass? 150 mils? Yeah, yeah, what kind? Is it we doing RSA pour?

About five glasses in a bottle, so... You know what a glass is. 12 glasses of wine a week. You are at risk of long-term brain damage. Oh, my gosh. Like dementia. Oh. Yeah.

That's not good news. I know. How did this make the cut? Yeah. How did this make the shot? the show. I'm not a fan of this. Neither am I.

I might not do lots of wine glasses throughout the week. But when I do have it at an event. You have it all at once. Yeah. We're not doing 12 a week. We're doing 12 a night once a fortnight. Exactly.

Which she said is worse. Oh my God. By the way, she said the binging and then the withdrawal that your body goes through is actually worse for you than like a slow and steady sustained. Oh my golly. Is this all wines or just reds or just breads or just pinks or... It's all alcohol.

She's just singled out wine. I'm not inviting her. Sorry. I'm not inviting her to a B.Y. No, no, no, no. What a buzzer. Yeah, hard. Anyway, I'm just bringing you the news, okay?

I'm not telling you what to do. I'm just bringing you the news from Dr. Anya from the Oxford University who says your brain is shrinking from just three glasses of wine a week. Ugh. Boo. The ZD.M. Podcast Network. Strange request from our producer Ella today, but she wanted us to help settle an argument around what cutlery

you use with which meal, because you and your husband can't agree. No, and every night, I'm so shocked because I, he cooks and I get the cutlery out, and every night I have to gamble what he like would want. I'm always wrong. I'm going to make a prediction here and say that

Ella is going to be the outlier. Me too. Yeah. Me too. I reckon the man who cooks the food knows what it should be eaten with. But we'll give you the benefit of the doubt. You give us the meal. Bill Ella, and Claudia and I will tell you what cutlery, we believe, is the correct cutlery to use with that meal. Okay, I'm going just pasta. What kind of pasta?

PNA. It doesn't matter what kind of pasta. Tell me a type of pasta that doesn't require a fork. Thank you. Good man. Fork. Good woman. Wait, what does he think it should be eaten with?

I believe he's a spoon man. With spaghetti? I'm going to say fork. I can't think of a... Can you... Pasture that needs a spoon. Tiny macarones. Obviously you can eat pasta with a spoon.

If you must. But there'll be Italian nunnas rolling in their graves at the idea of it. Okay, maybe we were wrong, Claudia. Maybe, okay, give us another one. Give us another one. Curry. Curry, okay. Fork.

Spoon. Spoon. I'm a fork girl too, Clint. Because you can't get all the sauces and stuff with just a floor. Yes, you can. That's what the rice is for. The rice is there. Oh, no, either either, but spoon.

he's a spoon man too I think that's wrong All right we're going out for takeaways I think it's lazy Claudia Oh how dare you I do yeah okay you're going up for takeaways Yes and we're going to get Thai We come home it's pad tie

What are you using? Chopsticks Chopsticks or a fork Fork or chopsticks correct Not a spoon I was just trying to be fancy with my chopsticks I'll use my fingers then Fork fork you can't spoon up pad Thai It's too sticky

Good man It's too noodley Now I believe He'd probably lean towards a spoon over a fork. How does that work, though? Are you living with a baby? I told you. It's not me.

Do his spoons have plastic handles? And do they clip into his plate? How'd you know? Okay, last one. And then you guys can spit some dinner ideas to me as well. What are you going to do with mac and cheese? Oh, fork. Fork.

Fork. Thank you. Is he a spoon man on a mac and cheese? Yes. Because he likes to scoop. No, this is a baby. This is ridiculous. I'm so glad I'm not in a wrong.

I'm so sorry. Thank you. Does any other dinners come tonight? I feel like a lot of other things. Stop the conversation. I've just chat GPT what is the correct utensil to eat curry with. Yeah. It says it depends on the type of curry and the cultural context, but here's the general rule.

Indian carries, traditionally eat them with your right hand. With your bread. If using a utensil, spoon is preferred. No way. Not a knife or fork. Thai curries. Yeah. Typically eating with a spoon and fork.

Curries, yes. Japanese curries, yes. Spoon. No, I like stabbing the toes. Malaysian or Indonesian curries. My goodness. Fork and spoon. So, and here it says, if in doubt,

spoon is almost always correct for curry. Well, well, well. Spoon and fork combo for Southeast Asian carries in your right hand if you're eating in a traditional Indian style. Oh my God. Am I more wealthy than you? I stand corrected. And I called you lazy for that.

You did. How dare you? Yeah. I mean, I won't apologize. You never would. We wouldn't expect that. Buzzy. Yeah, Buzzy, man.

All right. I'll go tell Ryan now. No, no, no, no. Don't tell Ryan anything. Don't concede defeat. Just keep going. No, just quietly change to the spoon. I don't want it.

And he'll go, oh. Oh. Someone's come around. A spoon lady. And you go, shut up. Play ZM's Brian Clint on Insta, Facebook, TikTok, and live weekdays from three on ZM.