ZM's Bree & Clint - ZM's Bree & Clint Podcast – July 30th 2020

Episode Date: July 31, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi everyone and welcome to the Bree and Clint podcast. G'day. Just a quick PSA in case you skip the intros. There won't be a Friday podcast today. This week. This week. There won't be a Friday podcast. Yeah, Clint's taking the day off, so blame him!
Starting point is 00:00:17 We're doing some best bits tomorrow. But you've heard all those because you've heard the podcast. So... Yeah. Yeah. So just in case you're going Oh bloody podcasts are working Bloody Ben where's the bloody podcast
Starting point is 00:00:29 There isn't going to be one tomorrow There'll be a podcast again on Monday There is a podcast today Yes And don't harass Ben It's not nice Ben's away Yeah Ben's away at the moment too
Starting point is 00:00:40 So So Leave Ben alone Leave him alone Alright Be nice to him Nah Everyone is nice to Ben Are they? Most of the time I think so I like alone leave him alone all right be nice to him nah everyone is nice to ben
Starting point is 00:00:46 are they time i think so i like to whip him a bit yeah sometimes he deserves it though most of the time doesn't he um okay what do we need to cover off today oh i got a dm this morning actually about you um someone yeah somebody listens to our podcast in aust Yeah And they said that they are a truck driver Okay This is their shout out actually And I'm sorry I've forgotten your name Good shout out Forgotten their name
Starting point is 00:01:13 They'll know who they are They start work at 3am every day Yes And they said that our dulcet tones Wake them up faster than any cup of coffee ever could Which I was like Well I think that's a compliment. Is that a compliment? Yeah, I'll take it as a compliment.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Get some charging. I will take that as a compliment. He also harassed me for backing down to you on Birthday Banger a few days ago and not playing Cher when I wanted to play Cher and you didn't. You back down a lot in Birthday Banger. Not because I come after you. You let me take the fall most of the time.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Be honest. Most of the time you'll let me pick first. Go on. To see what the vibe is. Test the waters. And then a lot of the time you just can't be bothered
Starting point is 00:01:58 with the whole like not going with me. So most of the time you'll just be like yeah okay I'll go with that one. Sometimes the segment's dragged on a bit. Yeah, see, I knew it. Sometimes.
Starting point is 00:02:08 I knew it. But if I believe in something, I'll vote for it. That's a good way. That's how we've got our impartial voters now. Once we figured that system out, it was much easier. Clint believes in a style of radio where even he likes to disagree on things just for the beauty of radio.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Not true. Oh, it's true sometimes. Not true. Come on. I like debating. It's true. I was a debater at school. That is another way of saying you lie.
Starting point is 00:02:38 And I enjoy an impassioned conversation. To have the opposite opinion. No, but I will never say something that I don't believe. I'll never. I won't. Because you can't. You can't. So I'll never say something that I personally disagree with.
Starting point is 00:02:52 If I think something will vex you a bit, I'll give you a little rev up. Yeah. It's way more exciting. Oh, don't worry. There's been times where I've done the exact same thing to you, but you think that I'm not. Well, then you are just as guilty, okay? No. What song did we choose?
Starting point is 00:03:10 When you wouldn't let me play Cher, what song did we play? Was it Avril Lavigne? No. Anastasia, do you remember? Can you hear me? Yeah. Oh, did that work? We only just turned you on.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Oh, sweet. Now, Producer Ben's gone, and I didn't know how to turn my mic on. I really, I really... He's not gone. He'll be back. Yeah, he's coming back. So he's gone for today and... No, we've already said he's away.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Yeah, I know. Sorry, I was just doing a reset. Oh, good one, Anastasia. I'm just doing a reset. Well, I don't know. Someone might have joined the podcast a couple of minutes late. Do you know what song beat Cher? Pardon?
Starting point is 00:03:44 Do you remember what song beat Cher? Pardon? Do you remember what song beat Cher In birthday banger? Oh it's on the long list Can you guys buffer? Yeah we can buffer Yeah I honestly can't remember I can't remember what I had for dinner last night
Starting point is 00:03:54 It doesn't matter Look life is short This is like after a long birthday banger We've just got to wrap this shit up People don't care about these intros We can hear producer Anastasia just talking to herself I'm back Okay, what was it?
Starting point is 00:04:12 What was the show song? Turn Back Time Was it Girlfriend? There you go, Avril Lavigne Do you stand by that decision? Absolutely Was that on Monday? Are you sure it wasn't Do You Believe in Love?
Starting point is 00:04:25 No, it was Turn Back Time. It was Turn Back Time because it was a slower song. And that's why she didn't get it. And it was a Monday and that's why I picked Girlfriend. Yeah, something more upbeat. I'm pretty like down the middle with those decisions. Black and white. You're the
Starting point is 00:04:41 fence sitter in this relationship. I think You're the fence sitter In this relationship I think you're the biggest fence sitter I'm black and white I don't know if I agree There we go fence sitting Here's today's podcast reminder No podcast tomorrow
Starting point is 00:05:00 We'll have another one for you guys on Monday See ya Just quickly Lots of manual drivers out there. I know. I feel like our community is coming out. If you're in a manual car for us right now, push the clutch in and give it a big rev just so everyone knows. And then ride the clutch around the corner
Starting point is 00:05:17 just like your driving instructor told you not to. And then drop the clutch and do a fat skid. How good's a skid in a manual car? This is our version of the long weekend group toot. It's the Thursday afternoon group burnout. So put your car into first and away we go. Brought to you by Bree from Queensland and Clint from Rotorua. Oh, I love a manual car.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Hey, here's some interesting news. Apart from hand washing, James Hamblin has not used soap for five years. What? Yeah. And he's a doctor. He lectures at the Yale School of Public Health. And he warns that our obsession with being clean is harming the microbiome that keeps us healthy. I don't know what a microbiome is.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Yeah, I'm not sure what that is. I think it's like your germ aura. I think it's like your germ force field. Because you know how, this is what I assume it is. You know those ads for Bliss K20, that probiotic thing? Oh, yeah. And there's the good bacteria and they fight the bad bacteria. In every tablet or whatever it is?
Starting point is 00:06:26 Yeah, I think that's microbiome. I don't know, but that's what I assume it is. Right. Yeah, he's come out and said he hasn't used soap for five years, apart from when he's washing his hands, and he said that's the way to go. What, on his body? Yeah, yeah. He said we've been brainwashed into thinking that we need soap.
Starting point is 00:06:39 He doesn't use deodorant either. Oh. Yeah, and he's a doctor. Oh. He's a doctor. His fragrant zones would be very, very fragrant. Well, does he smell? Because if, here's the problem. Of course he would. But here's the problem. You know how it's very hard to know if you smell? No, no, I can tell when I
Starting point is 00:06:56 smell. But if you didn't use soap for five years, you'd get used to the smell and you might go, I'm fine today. If I had to pick between using soap to wash my body or wearing deodorant, I'd pick deodorant. What would you pick? Deodorant. No, soap. Soap. I'd have more showers.
Starting point is 00:07:13 And you wouldn't? Yeah, I'd just increase the rate of showers. See, I don't smell that bad. If I wear deodorant, I don't smell. So does he smell? This is what his girlfriend says. Okay. Yeah, but she's biased.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Yeah. She said. Don't believe it. She said he smells like a person, which means. Oh, that's not a good review. Which means he's fragrant. Yep. That's not good.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Not a good review. Yeah. But I mean, look, people are trying all kinds of things. As long as you're washing your hands, because this is, I mean, baby, this is a pre-COVID world. You need to be washing your hands. Wash damn hands. Yeah. See, I mean, I'm a big advocate.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I didn't use soap in the shower for ages because I'm really, like, allergic to a lot of stuff. Yeah. But the deodorant one. Were you using Dove instead, like, with one quarter moisturiser? No, I was using nothing. Oh, okay. So you've done this.
Starting point is 00:08:04 I have done the no soap thing before. Yeah. But like I said, I'm not a very fragrant person. And if I wear deodorant, I'm fine. Yeah, right. Yeah. Like I still wash myself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Yeah. And that's what he's doing. Just a quick rinse. A quick no. Can you imagine how bad his towels would smell? Oh, see, yeah, that's not good. You'd want to be washing your towel basically after every wash. How bad is it when you...
Starting point is 00:08:27 Towel gets a pong? Yeah, and you're like, why is my towel pongy? You know what that is? It's a bacteria. It's bacteria. Yeah, because you're wiping your butt crack. You know, any time that you smell or something smells, it's bacteria. That's what's causing the smell.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Think about that when you put on your gym gear and it smells a little bit whiffy. It's because it's full of your own bacteria. Oh, well, I beg to differ. It might be that you've left it in the washing machine a bit too long. And bacteria has grown. Ew. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Yeah, that's the worst smell. I've got a question this afternoon. Like this doctor, do you not use soap? And I don't... I want to know the deodorant one too. Okay, and do you not use deodorant? Well, one or the other too. Not for eczema or skin irritation reasons. Yeah, because that's why I the deodorant one too. Okay, and do you not use deodorant? Well, one or the other too.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Not for like eczema or skin irritation reasons. Yeah, because that's why I didn't use it. I think that's quite common. Yeah. But are you just an advocate for no soaping and no deodorant? Yeah, you think you don't need it. Is this your lifestyle? We'd like to talk to you this afternoon.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Hashtag no judgment, babes. We just want to talk to you, okay? Call us on 0800-DALS- dials Or you can text us on 9696 No soap, no deodorant, is it you? Brian Clint James Hamblin, Dr James Hamblin Of the Yale School of Public Health Says cool it with the soap guys
Starting point is 00:09:37 Apart from hand washing, cool it with the soap No more soap, you're damaging your microbiome No, I need to wash My underarms and my other parts. You know, he said the less he used, the less he needed. He said, you know how some people say. Of course he's saying that. I know, I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:09:54 But the only reason I keep coming back to it is because he's a doctor at the Yale School of Public Health. You know how people say if you don't wash your hair for long enough, it starts to wash itself? I had a friend, and this is no joke. Actually, I think she lives in Wanaka these days. Anyway, this is no BS. She did not wash her hair for a year and a half.
Starting point is 00:10:14 And what's her hair like? It looked fine. Yeah, right. I'm fascinated. But you've got to go through that bit first, right? We should call her and ask her how long it's been. We've asked you this afternoon, do you not use soap or deodorant? Or one or the other?
Starting point is 00:10:27 Or neither? And we actually have some people who have called through. Michelle, hi. Hi, Michelle. Hello. You're soap free? Yeah, 90% of the time, yeah. And how come that is, Michelle?
Starting point is 00:10:41 Like the good doctor, I think, and I use myself as an example the less you use, the less you need it Yeah, interesting I don't mean to be rude but do you smell alright? Well, I work in a rather large office and no one has ever said anything to me
Starting point is 00:10:59 No one's jumped across your computer No one's said, hey Michelle, you're a bit whiffy That's right, and I work with people who would say that That's good You wash your hands though with soap, right? Of course When there's time, why wouldn't you?
Starting point is 00:11:17 Fascinating Okay, thanks for the insight Michelle, we appreciate it Jo's here too, hi Jo Hi Jo Hi guys Do you use both? I mean, do you not use both of these things? No, I use the other.
Starting point is 00:11:29 It's not the soap. Okay. Why don't you use soap? I just think I'm washing my hair every two or three days. Yeah. I'm washing my clothes nearly every day. I work in a position where I get, you know, an early childhood blend, sandy and dirty constantly.
Starting point is 00:11:45 So my clothes are smelling fresh and clean with free-baked softener. I just think that's going to be delicate to be constantly washing off chemicals. Yeah, right. It's a good point. Wash the clothes, don't wash the body. It's a good point. And I guess your workmates,
Starting point is 00:11:59 aka the kids at the early childhood centre, there's a very strong chance that you would never be the worst smelling person at your workplace. I wouldn't be, but in saying that, they would definitely tell you if you felt bad. Yeah, or some kid goes, Miss, you don't smell very good. And you go, David, you literally pooed your pants three minutes ago. You really want to talk about this, David?
Starting point is 00:12:21 You really want to point fingers, David? David, come on. David, you're in your third pair of pants this morning. God, you stinky bugger. Thanks, Joe. Appreciate the call. Thanks, Joe. Bree and Clint from iHeartRadio.
Starting point is 00:12:34 This is the latest live from LA with Dean McCarthy. This story's been bubbling away for a while now. We've even covered it. We've talked to someone who says that they've experienced it. But, Dean, there's an update on the Is Ellen a Big Meanie story. Yeah, I like how you put that. That was a very nice quote, Clint.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Thank you for that. Well, there is a bit of an update and the update comes in the form of a formal investigation by Warner Media into the Ellen show being, and I quote, a toxic work environment.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Let me give you some background on this. So basically, apparently, according to the report, one current and 10 former employees have come forward alleging that there is bullying. They haven't specified Ellen. Well, they may later as we kind of do more of an uncovery. But for now, it's the three executive producers have been accused of bullying. That's a lot of people to come forward. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:25 I love Ellen and I don't want to go there. That's a lot of people. Ten to come forward. And that has obviously spiked Warner to do their own investigation. Now, which was supposed to be a private investigation, it's now become public. Everyone is hearing it. Everybody is talking about this.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Is Ellen a monster? I don't know. Jury's out. I hope she reveals the results of the investigation on her TV show. They do like a big drum roll and they're like,
Starting point is 00:13:53 all right, is the Ellen show a toxic place to work for? Let's find out. Oh, yes. It's a yes. I just feel like it's a bit of a witch hunt.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Maybe, yeah. And I feel like in today's day and age, everything's a bit of a witch hunt, Maybe, yeah. And I feel like in today's day and age, everything's a bit of a witch hunt, you know, where we're just looking. Yeah. And you know what? She might not be very nice.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I'm not saying that no one is right, nothing's true, but I'm just a bit sick of all these things where we're just trying to bring everyone down. And either way, damage is done. Like, we've been talking about this thing for three months now. It's a long time. Reputationally, it's already there in the background, right? So, interesting.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Is her show back on TV yet, Dean? Like, are they filming in the studio and dunking people and dancing? Yes, it's such a great show. No, they're not actually doing it in studio. She's been doing some stuff from home. It doesn't have the same energy or vibe. But, you know, so hopefully they get back in the studio. Honestly, guys, they're not going to be getting back in the studio
Starting point is 00:14:46 anytime soon. Like, LA is a hot spot. Like, we're not even going to the gym. I can't even go to the gym. So I don't think I'll be back in the studio anytime soon, to be honest. If you're not going to the gym, then yeah. Dean's been binge-pressing his couch.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Oh, no, I've got a home gym, but I'm not going to an actual gym. Of course you do, Dean. That's Dean McCarthy. He's our Hollywood correspondent live out of Los Angeles. Bree and Clint. Okay, cool, got it. do, Dean. That's Stephen Carthy. He's our Hollywood correspondent live out of Los Angeles. Bree and Clint. Okay, cool. Got it. Sorry, behind the scenes panic here.
Starting point is 00:15:12 We're under control. We've got it under control. No, it's fine. I saw there was a list that got released and caught my attention because I've lived in the 21st century. Oh, yeah, you're a 21st century girl. I am. And it was a poll that was done on Twitter asking people
Starting point is 00:15:26 what is the best TV show of the 21st century. Oh, right. Okay. The golden age of television. Yeah. I was like, oh, I'm in for this conversation. Yes. I need to be here.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I want to give a few honourable mentions. A few of the TV shows that were up there but got knocked out were Stranger Things, Peaky Blinders, which I know you like. Love Peaky Blinders. And The Wire. Oh, people froth over The Wire. I've never watched it, but it's like cult following type. I studied, I swear I studied it in uni.
Starting point is 00:16:00 People put that and Mad Men in the same category. They reckon it's amazing. Yeah, yeah. And Sopranos. Yeah. These are the three are the three like most the best critically acclaimed tv shows yeah well um i've got a top three okay these are the top three that came out on top coming in i just need to check which one i'm going to play so when you say three play the one that says anastasia is number three so tv show number three on this list. Can we play out the themes?
Starting point is 00:16:26 Which one? It'll be number one. Okay, so number three is number one. You can't remember, can you? No, I've got your list up here. The list that you sent me goes one, two, three. Let's just rough it. Let's just wing it.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's wing it and see how we go. The one that starts with... Come on, we can do this. The one that starts with what? Okay, yeah, we're going the other way. Okay, we can do this. One that starts with what? B. Okay, yeah, we're going the other way. Okay, so when you say TV show,
Starting point is 00:16:50 the third biggest show, I play button number... Hold on. Three or one? B is one for me. B is one. So if the show starts with B... So you play three. Three, okay, got it.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Cool, got it, got it, got it, got it. Cool. Got it. Got it. Got it. No one would know really listening what's going on, but this is pure absolute havoc. Okay, let's do this. Let's do this. So coming in at number three. The three biggest shows of the 21st century.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Got it. Century, yeah. This is number three. You don't even know what it is. This is The Office. Yeah. The Office US though. It didn't specify. Right is. Is it The Office? Yeah. The Office US, though. It didn't specify.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Right. It just said The Office. People love The Office US. I've never watched it. I would have thought The Office UK would stick to the original, but yeah, cool, sweet. It was either or, I think. Oh, I got it.
Starting point is 00:17:38 It was either or. Coming in at number two for the best TV show of the 21st century is this show. Shame about the ending. The Game of Thrones. Such a cult following, wasn't it? It was on track to be the most important TV show of all time until they kind of ran out of ideas at the end, maybe.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Need to get some new fresh writers. Maybe. Well, no, they can't because there's just one guy who writes it all. Is it? Yeah. He writes the books and he stopped writing. He couldn't write to keep up with the TV show, apparently. Yeah, they went faster than he could write the books.
Starting point is 00:18:13 They should have done what they did with Friends. Change the writers out. Yeah, they keep firing and rehiring writers. It's smart. That always works, doesn't it? What do you think's number one? I don't want to say because I don't want to ruin it. Yeah, because you've
Starting point is 00:18:25 kind of been given a hint. Same with everyone else. This was voted the top show of the 21st century. Piss off! Someone has done it. What are the chances?
Starting point is 00:18:39 It was not me. I mean, I would argue, but I know Brie agrees. Well, congratulations, Big Bang Theory. Wait, surely not. It's not. Clint is winding me up. I hate the Big Bang Theory.
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Starting point is 00:19:50 Gone by lunchtime. Grab one now wherever you get your podcasts. New season of The Bachelorette starting in Australia soon. And I'm going to announce that I will be The Bachelorette. Congratulations. Thank you so much. Yeah, it's Bachelorette Australia, but it's filmed here in New Zealand because of COVID.
Starting point is 00:20:08 All on Zoom as well. We've found every single male and female Australian living in New Zealand, and Bree's going to date them all. So, no. As fast as I can. This year, the Bachelorette is two sisters. One called Ellie, who was on a season of The Bachelor and lost, and her sister.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Why do you have to add and lost? Well, because otherwise you've got to explain what happened with The Bachelor. Like, why is she not with The Bachelor anymore? Yeah. True. She lost. She came fifth. I always find it interesting when they say you came fifth.
Starting point is 00:20:44 You didn't come fifth. You lost. It's not the Olympics. Everyone who didn't get The She lost. She came fifth. I always find it interesting when they say you came fifth. You didn't come fifth. You lost. It's not the Olympics. Everyone who didn't get the bachelor lost. Like, if you come in third, do you get a medal? Yeah. Yeah, it's not how it works. You go, well.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Like, do you, if you come in first, second, and third, do you get to go on the podium? I almost got them. Second. I got this silver medal, though. How cool is it? I missed out by 0.25 of a second Like do you train before you go on The Bachelor?
Starting point is 00:21:08 I set a new PB though I'm very happy with my efforts And I'll be lifting for four years time Do they get track suits? Here's some scandal about the new season of The Bachelorette though Two sisters like we said One who's been on The Bachelor and lost And her sister
Starting point is 00:21:20 A person in Australia has said publicly That the sister broke up with her boyfriend to go on the TV show. Wait, so which one is this? Which person? Which sister?
Starting point is 00:21:33 Becky. So which, how, is she the older? She's the older one who wasn't on The Bachelor. Who wasn't? No.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Right. And they're saying that they recruited Ellie? Ellie. Yeah, they recruited her and then they come up
Starting point is 00:21:44 with the sister idea. They're like, get your sister on. We'll use her as well. And she's like, nah, she's dating someone. And then the sister goes, that's fine. I'll just dump him. That's what's being alleged. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Whoa. So she would have had to go to her boyfriend and say, hey, it's over. And naturally he would go, why? And she'd have to say, because I'm going on The Bachelorette. It's me. Yeah. Because I'm going on The Bachelorette. It's not you, it's me. Yeah. Because I want to go on a reality TV show. She could lie and say, oh, I need some time to find myself.
Starting point is 00:22:13 But eventually he's going to see the billboard. She could lie like everyone else does when they break up with someone. Let's be real. More often than not, you're not telling the person you're breaking up with the full truth. Telling them a version of the truth. Yeah. And her version would have had to include something about her going on a reality TV show to date 25 guys.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Or maybe she breezed past it and then he's just realised it now. Yeah. Why are you breaking up with me? I need some time to find myself on The Bachelor, Channel 10, starting September 31st. Yeah, just whisper it. Easy way to get out of it. Which is a pretty stink reason to find out that The Bachelor, Channel 10, starting September 31st. Yeah, just whisper it. Easy way to get out of it.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Which is a pretty stink reason to find out that your girlfriend's leaving you. But I don't know. Do what you've got to do, I guess. Well, I need to know the details. Like, was it serious? Don't know. How long were they together? Yeah, don't know. Were they on the rocks?
Starting point is 00:22:59 Don't know. Maybe this pushed her to realise. Yeah, there's lots of reasons why it could be. But he will just hang on to the fact that she left him to go on The Bachelorette. That'll be the main takeaway for him. You know, one time on an old radio show that I did, we were talking about one of the bachelorettes
Starting point is 00:23:15 and her ex-boyfriend called our show as we were talking about it and just pretty much dragged her through the mud. Whoa, and that's the risk you take going on a show like this. Her dirty laundry is now getting aired in a different country. Yeah, it's not fair. I don't agree with it. Because we don't know the details. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Okay, yeah, I'm with you. Can you imagine? Let's talk about some of your breakups. No, no, we're good. Give us names. When I go on The Bachelor. How many breakups have you had? When I go on The Bachelor, my dating history is public knowledge.
Starting point is 00:23:42 You're married. You're never going on The Bachelor. Exactly. Yeah. Oh, 800're never going on The Bachelor. Exactly. 0800 dials at M this afternoon. What's the dumb reason they gave you for breaking up with you? What's the BS that they spun in the breakup conversation to
Starting point is 00:23:58 get out of it? It might have been something that you knew was a lie or it might have been something that was true and you're just like, you are so stupid. You're breaking up with me and you're just like, you are so stupid. You're breaking up with me because you're going on rugby team trip? Like, I appreciate your honesty, but that's the reason you're going to break up with me. No one's that honest.
Starting point is 00:24:16 0800 dial ZM or you can text us on 9696. We can keep your name out of it if you need to. You can remain anonymous. What's the dumb reason they gave you for breaking up with you? Bree and Clint. We're just asking you a question. What's the dumb reason that someone breaking up with you? Bree and Clint. We're just asking you a question. What's the dumb reason that someone broke up with you? There's rumours that the new bachelorette in Australia broke up with her boyfriend so she could go on The Bachelorette.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Which I argue with you that I don't think it's that dumb. Yeah, and there's a really good argument for that, actually. Because she gets to go on a show and meet a bunch of hot, eligible bachelors. Yeah, I get it. Maybe she wasn't happy. She'll get to do a skydive. a bunch of hot eligible bachelors. Yeah, I get it. Maybe she wasn't happy. She'll get to do a skydive. She'll get to do a high ropes.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Yeah. She'll get to do a... Wind and dined. She'll get wind and dined. Yeah, okay. So maybe it's not a dumb reason. Maybe that one's not a dumb reason. But there'll be some dumb reasons out there.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Absolutely there will be. Oh, we didn't quite get them. Damn it. Maddie McLean, TVNZ's Matty McLean messaged in. What did he say? He said, my partner Ryan is listening to your show at the moment and he said I should message you about the guy who once broke up with me and told me, you just don't wow me.
Starting point is 00:25:17 What is that? That is such BS. You just don't wow me. So many people have texted through. Someone texted through and said someone broke up with me. A guy said he loved me too much. Yeah, wow. That is such a cop out.
Starting point is 00:25:33 A cop out. Because it's not true. Just man up. It's not true. And tell her the real reason or just dump her and leave. You're just not into them. I love you too much. I love you too much and that's why I have to leave you.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Hi, Luca. Hi. What's the dumb reason to leave you. Hi, Luca. Hi. What's the dumb reason they gave you for dumping you? Well, to be fair, they didn't actually dump me. They wanted the best of both worlds. I got a text one day from my partner at the time. Oh, I'm really, really mad. And I was like, okay, well, why are you mad?
Starting point is 00:25:58 And she goes, oh, because I'm trying to apply for The Bachelor, and I've written all my answers and it won't let me push submit. Wait, your partner told you they were trying to apply to be on The Bachelor? Yeah. All together. And that's the way they decided to break up with you?
Starting point is 00:26:17 No, they didn't break up with me. They wanted to do it both worlds because they weren't going to, you know, do it with him. They were just going to go on cool dates. And wait, wait, did they get on the show? No, I broke up with them pretty much straight away. Wait, so you broke up with them, but did they end up going, you don't have to name names here, but did they end up going on The Bachelor?
Starting point is 00:26:35 I don't know. It was quite recently. To be fair, I didn't really pay attention to anything after that. I was like, no, I'm staying away from The Bachelor. That's unbelievable. Someone else texted her and they said, I got dumped on my 21st birthday at the party because apparently
Starting point is 00:26:52 I had too many friends. That's why they're breaking up with you? What? Because you've got too many friends. Brittany, what's the dumb reason someone gave you for breaking up with you? I gave them a dumb reason. I told them that I didn't like their mother, but it was really because they didn't let me ride their horses.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Why couldn't you just say that, Brittany? Yeah, why couldn't you say the horse one? I feel like the mum one is way harsher. Because then I'd have to admit that I was only dating them because I wanted to ride all their horses. Oh, true. Yeah, I see. And obviously they're invested into this.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Yeah. What was your opinion of their mother? Oh, no, she was nuts. Oh, true. Yeah, I see. So you went for the jugular. And obviously, they're invested into this. Yeah. What was your opinion of their mother? Oh, no, she was nuts. Oh, right. Okay, so there was some truth in it. Out the gate nuts. I don't know how they have a partner now. I love the idea of just dating someone so you can ride their horses.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Yeah. Must be nice horses. Do you really like horses, Brittany? I would really like to not pay $90 a horse ride. Fair enough. She's got a good point. I mean, it's a great point. Someone on the text machine, this one's an interesting one, they said, I'm a
Starting point is 00:27:53 female and I was seeing this guy who said he could no longer date me because my job made him feel not manly enough. Wow. I text them back and I asked what job it was. She's a helicopter pilot. They were emasculated by your helicopter pilot. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:28:10 You don't need that guy. You don't want that guy. No, don't need that insecure guy. That's an awesome job. That guy's got some serious issues. I would love to date a helicopter pilot. Yeah, it'd be awesome. I wish my wife could fly a helicopter.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Hi, Debbie. Hi. Debbie, tell us what was. I wish my wife could fly a helicopter. Hi, Debbie. Hi. Debbie, tell us what was the dumb reason someone got broken up with? Because I had evil eyes. What? But it was really because he was trying to hook up
Starting point is 00:28:37 with my sister. There you go. And did he? Did he? No, no, because he was trying to get with me, he got with me so he could get to my sister, but found out that she already was in a serious relationship and there was no budget. When you found out the truth, did you give him evil eyes?
Starting point is 00:29:02 Oh, yeah, a bit more than that. Yeah, right. I know what you're saying. Thanks, Debbie. We're just asking you a question. What's the dumb reason that someone broke up with you? There's rumours that the new bachelorette in Australia broke up with her boyfriend so she could go on The Bachelorette.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Which I argue with you that I don't think it's that dumb. Yeah, and there's a really good argument for that actually. Because she gets to go on a show and meet a bunch of hot eligible bachelors. Yeah, I get it. Maybe she wasn't happy. She'll get to do a skydive. She'll get to do a high ropes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:34 She'll get to do a. Wind and dined. She'll get wind and dined. Yeah. Okay, so maybe it's not a dumb reason. Maybe that one's not a dumb reason. But there'll be some dumb reasons out there. Absolutely there will be.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Oh, we didn't quite get them. Damn it. Maddie McLean, TVNZ's Maddie McLean messaged in. What did he say? He said, my partner Ryan is listening to your show at the moment, and he said I should message you about the guy who once broke up with me and told me, you just don't wow me. What is that?
Starting point is 00:30:04 That is such BS. You just don't wow me. So many that? That is such BS. You just don't wow me. So many people have texted through. Someone texted through and said someone broke up with me. A guy said he loved me too much. Yeah, wow. That is such a cop out.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Because it's not true. It's not true. And tell her the real reason or just dump her and leave. You're just not into them. I love you too much. I love you too much and that's why I. Just man up. It's not true. And tell her the real reason or just dump her and leave. You're just not into them. I love you too much. I love you too much and that's why I have to leave you. Hi, Luca. Hi.
Starting point is 00:30:31 What's the dumb reason they gave you for dumping you? Well, to be fair, they didn't actually dump me. They wanted the best of both worlds. I got a text one day from my partner at the time. Oh, I'm really, really mad. And I was like, okay, well, why are you mad? And she goes, oh, because I'm trying to apply for The Bachelor and I've written all my answers and it won't let me push submit.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Wait, your partner told you they were trying to apply to be on The Bachelor? Yeah, when we were together. And that's the way they, is that the way they decided to break up with you? No, they didn't. They didn't break up with me. They wanted to do it both ways because they weren't going to, you know No, they didn't. They didn't break up with me. They wanted the best of both worlds
Starting point is 00:31:05 because they weren't going to, you know, do it with him. They were just going to go on cool dates. And wait, wait, did they get on the show? No, I broke up with them pretty much straight away. Wait, so you broke up with them, but did they end up going... You don't have to name names here, but did they end up going on The Bachelor?
Starting point is 00:31:21 I don't know. It was quite recently. To be fair, I didn't really pay attention to anything after that. I was like, no, I'm staying away from The Bachelor. That's unbelievable. Someone else texted her and they said, I got dumped on my 21st birthday at the party because apparently I had too many friends.
Starting point is 00:31:40 That's why they're breaking up with you? What? Because you've got too many friends. Brittany, what's the dumb reason someone gave you for breaking up with you? I gave them a dumb reason. I told them that I didn't like their mother, but it was really because they didn't let me ride their horses. Why couldn't you just say that, Brittany?
Starting point is 00:31:57 Yeah, why couldn't you say the horse was? I feel like the mum one is way harsher. Because then I'd have to admit that I was only dating them because I wanted to ride all their horses. Oh, true. Yeah, I see. to admit that I was only dating them because I wanted to ride all their horses. Oh, true. And I was a year invested into this. What was your opinion of their mother? Oh, no, she
Starting point is 00:32:13 was nuts. Oh, right. So there was some truth in it. I don't know how they have a partner now. I love the idea of just dating someone so you can ride their horses. Must be nice horses. Do you really like horses, Brittany? I would really like to not pay $90 a horse ride.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Fair enough. She's got a good point. I mean, it's a great point. Someone on the text machine, this one's an interesting one, they said, I'm a female and I was seeing this guy who said he could no longer date me because my job made him feel not manly enough. Wow. I text them back and I asked what job it was.
Starting point is 00:32:50 She's a helicopter pilot. They were emasculated by your helicopter pilot. And you know what? You don't need that guy. You don't want that guy. No, don't need that insecure guy. That's an awesome job. That guy's got some serious issues.
Starting point is 00:33:03 I would love to date a helicopter pilot. Yeah, it'd be awesome. I wish my wife could fly a helicopter. Hi, Debbie. Hi. Debbie, tell us what was the dumb reason someone got broken up with? Because I had evil eyes. What?
Starting point is 00:33:19 But it was really because he was trying to hook up with my sister. There you go. And did he? And did he? And did he? Did he? No, no, because he was trying to get with me. He got with me so he could get to my sister, but found out that she already was in a serious relationship
Starting point is 00:33:41 and there was no budget. When you found out the truth, did you give him evil eyes? Oh, yeah, a bit more than that. Yeah, right. I know what you're saying. Thanks, Debbie. Call me what you want, I'll be what you want. I've been here a thousand times.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Hey, hey, you're falling for another. I don't even bother. I could do it all my life. So tell me if you wanna, cause I got this feeling. I wanna hear you say it, cause I can't believe it. With every touch of you, it's like I started dreaming. Guess heaven's not that far away. And I'll be singing.
Starting point is 00:34:28 You're breaking me. You're breaking me. You're breaking me. I'm just. The rhythm that you play when you're breaking my heart. You know that I can't get you out of the system. Yeah, right from the start, you played with my heart. And I'll be singing la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. You're breaking me la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la.
Starting point is 00:35:04 You're breaking me la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. You're breaking me. You're breaking me. You can do whatever. I'll be here forever. Spinning round inside this room. Won't you come on over? I'm a sucker for you. Wishing we'll be out here soon.
Starting point is 00:35:23 So tell me if you wanna. Cause I got this feeling. We'll be singing. You're breaking me. You're breaking me. You're breaking me. I'm just right here. The rhythm that you play. You know that I can't get you out of the snow. Yeah, right from the start. I'll be singing me James Franklin Vintage tea, brand new phone High heels on cobblestones
Starting point is 00:36:35 When you are young they assume you know nothing Sequined smile, black lipstick Sensual politics When you are young they assume you know nothing But I knew you, dancing in your Levi's Drunk under a streetlight I knew you, hand under my sweatshirt. Baby kissed it better. I am when I felt like I was an old cardigan under someone's bed. You put me on and said I was your favorite. A friend to all is a friend to none.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Chase two girls, lose the one. When you are young, they assume you know nothing. But I knew you, playing hard and seek and giving me your weekends. I, I knew you, your heartbeat on the high line once in 20 lifetimes. I, and when I felt like I was an old cardigan under someone's bed. You put me on and said I was your favorite To kissing cars and downtown bars was all we needed You drew stars around my scars, but now I'm bleeding Cause I knew you, stepping on the last train
Starting point is 00:38:41 Marked me like a bloodstain I, I knew you. Tried to change the ending, Peter losing Wendy. I, I knew you. Leaving like a father, running like water. I, when you are young, they assume you know nothing. But I knew you'd linger like a tattoo kiss i knew you'd haunt all of my worries the smell of smoke would hang around this long
Starting point is 00:39:15 cause i knew everything when i was young i knew i'd curse you for the longest time chasing shadows in the grocery line. I knew you'd miss me once the thrill expired. And you'd be standing in my front porch lot. And I knew you'd come back to me. You'd come back to me. And you'd come back to me. And you'd come back to me And you come back
Starting point is 00:39:46 And when I felt like I was an old cardigan Under someone's bed You put me on and said I was your favorite Zeddy, Bree and Clay, that's new Taylor Swift. It's called Cardigan. Interesting story today. A guy's been busted trying to smuggle a shitload of cigarettes into New Zealand. Really?
Starting point is 00:40:12 He's been caught at the border. A Malaysian man was trying to get 2.2 million cigarettes into New Zealand. I assume to sell on the black market. How many packets is that? I don't know. Actually, I don't know. It's a good question. Let me Google it.
Starting point is 00:40:26 2.2 million divided by 20. So there's 20 ciggies in a packet. So is there 20 cigarettes in a packet? On an average packet. Actually, we'd probably ask producer Anastasia. Producer Anastasia, how many ciggies in a packet? Yeah, I think it's 25, isn't it, normally? 25, okay.
Starting point is 00:40:42 2.2 million. Yep. So divided by 25. Divided by okay. 2.2 million. Yep. So divided by 25. Divided by 25. Yeah. Equals. Equals. 100,000 packets.
Starting point is 00:40:50 100,000 packets of cigarettes. How many, like, suitcases was he bringing in? I think he was doing it in a container. Oh, container. Did he get extra baggage? He's just walking through with a really full puffer jacket. He goes, I think I need more room in the overhead. I just think of the Wolf of Wall Street
Starting point is 00:41:08 where they're trying to bring in the money and they strap it to their stomach. Yeah. Oh, maybe he strapped it to himself. Like, imagine strapping a bunch of money blues to your tongue. He's bringing it in for personal use and he's put as many behind his ears as he can. He's like, I'm going to smoke that, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:41:21 No, they're for me. Anyway, he's tried to evade $2.7 million in tax and GST on the ciggies. That's why he's doing it. Right. And then hock them off on the black market. I assume. I don't think he was going to smoke them himself. At least I hope not.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Here's a question. Smuggling cigarettes, and you get caught, less time than other drugs? Oh, I don't know. I don't know. Because you're not getting done on the drugs one. On the legal. You're getting done on a fraud one. A fraud.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Yeah, yeah, and a tax evasion one. Yeah, that's interesting. We've asked you guys a question this afternoon on our Brie and Clint Instagram. Do you smoke? Like in 2020, are you a smoker? Anastasia, what do the numbers look like on that? Yeah, so it's pretty positive on the no side. 87% are saying no and only a small 13% for the yes.
Starting point is 00:42:10 That's how I feel it would be. That's the numbers I would expect off that. Yeah, same. I thought this afternoon, because I've got no idea how much a packet of ciggies actually costs, let's find out. I've never bought a packet of cigarettes, so I wouldn't know. And I know they go up by 10% every year in New Zealand.
Starting point is 00:42:25 I'm going to say they're like $20. $20-something? $8. Anastasia, what's a good brand to ask about? Can we go B&H's, Benson & Hedges? Benson & Hedges, 25s? Yeah, let's go 25s. B&H, 25s.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Not that I know. Definitely incriminating yourself, Anastasia. I don't know anything about this. Do you realise that? No, you're not knowing anything. You are incriminating yourself. Hi, mobile, Do you realise that? No, I do not know anything. You are incriminating yourself. Hi, mobile cutting. Hi, I'm just after a price check on a pack of B&H 25s.
Starting point is 00:42:51 B&H 25s. Who are you from? Where are you from? Just a customer who's hungry for a yummy, yummy cigarette. Oh, yeah. Just give me a second. $43.90. What did you say?
Starting point is 00:43:01 $43.90? Yep. $43.90. Whoa! Okay, thanks very much. Talk to you later. Bye. What did you say? $43.90? Yep. $43.90. Whoa. Okay, thanks very much. Talk to you later. Bye. Okay, see ya.
Starting point is 00:43:08 $43.90 for a packet of cigarettes. That is astounding. That is astounding. I can see why he did it now. I would do that. Was that a large? Do cigarettes come in specials? No, that was a regular packet.
Starting point is 00:43:19 You're right. I can see why that guy smuggled in 2.2 million cigarettes. That's like two bucks a day. Brie and Clint. $450 of mobile fuel to give away very shortly with What's the Plot? If you can take down Brie. Before then, though, I've got a question for you girls around weddings. And I say you girls because I'm going to ask you, Brie,
Starting point is 00:43:39 and then we're going to ask our panel of women as well, our producers today, producer Anastasia and producer Georgia. Glad you remembered her name just then. I did remember it. You've met her enough times. I did it. I nailed it. He struggled. Did you see that? He struggled.
Starting point is 00:43:58 It's such an uncommon name, Georgia. I've got it. It sits next to you every day, but that's alright. I've got an ethical wedding question for you guys, okay? Oh, okay. Brie, Anastasia and Georgia. The other girl. The random that's here.
Starting point is 00:44:12 The fill-in. Hey, you. Hey. Give me a tea. You, fill-in. I wouldn't mind a tea, actually. Wait, this is... I feel very...
Starting point is 00:44:21 Wait, who are you? Guys, I need to ask my question. I need to ask my question. I need to ask my question. How do you feel? Oh, first of all, have you guys all been bridesmaids before at a wedding? No, unfortunately. I feel really... That says a lot about you, Georgia.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Yeah, I know. Georgia hasn't. Brie, you've been a bridesmaid? I have, yeah. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride. Oh. And Anastasia, have you been a bridesmaid? Yeah, bridesmaid, flower girl, done it all.
Starting point is 00:44:44 You've done it all. I've been a flower girl too. That was a way done it all I've been a flower girl too That was a way better gig You've been a flower girl Doesn't count, Georgia Hey, were you an adult flower girl? No, it was my mum and dad's, thank you What? Oh yes, that's a pity invite
Starting point is 00:44:59 Yeah, they had to You were flower girl by default They were like, who's she? Here's the question Here's the question for you guys How do you feel about being asked to pay for your own bridesmaid's dress at a wedding? I don't actually mind that Well, you've never been one
Starting point is 00:45:16 Yeah, so you can't comment Let's start with Bree, who has been a bridesmaid before How do you feel if the bride goes to you, yeah, you've got to pay for your own? I think depends on how much the dress is. Yeah. Because I have been, there's been certain weddings where they picked a really expensive dress, which I think is a little bit rough,
Starting point is 00:45:36 but they were willing to pay half. Yeah, and was it a dress that you would wear again? No. No, so therein lies the problem. No. And, Nastasia, how do you feel about paying for your own bridesmaid's dress? Yeah, I'm pretty on the fence with Bree there, too, that, like, if it's expensive, I don't
Starting point is 00:45:52 think that's reasonable. But, like, I've had that occasion where it was a really expensive dress, and instead of paying for half, it was such a nice dress that it was available for rent at some rental places. Oh, that's good. So I could actually just spend 70 bucks and return it the next day. Jeez, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. I'm always of the opinion it's like,
Starting point is 00:46:09 it's your wedding. I didn't ask you to get married. Why should I have to pay? So like at your wedding, here's my question. Yeah. Did you, you paid for the groomsman's suits? Yes, I did, yeah. And is that always the case? No. No, no, this actually goes both ways. Yeah. Grooms have to pay for their suits sometimes too.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Did Lucy pay for her bridesmaid's dresses? Yeah. So it was the same. There's a post that's doing the rounds at the moment where a lady in the UK has said that she's a bit miffed about having to pay for a bridesmaid's dress. How much was it? Because of the price. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:38 How much was it? She said, look, I've got the money to pay for it, so I'm just going to pay for it. But? But I'm going to have a rant online about it. The dress that she was asked to purchase to be a bridesmaid at her friend's wedding was 350 pounds, which is 670
Starting point is 00:46:54 New Zealand dollars. Must have been the Fritz Bernays. Clint, did you see a photo of it? No, there's no picture of it. She's kept herself anonymous. She's just gone on Mumsnet and posted about it. And had a bit of a vent. Had a vent.
Starting point is 00:47:07 She's not going to be dumb enough to put pictures up. No, that's, jeez, that's friendship suicide. I mean, even talking about it in the first place is probably a friendship bender. Do you imagine the bride, she's like, well, I'm not paying for these, so I'm going to get the most expensive one I can find. Right? Yeah. That friendship would be over, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Yeah. If you're asking the bridesmaids to pay for their own dresses, which is pretty normal, I think, do you have to give them price options? You've got like, here's an entry-level dress, here's the one I'd like you to get, and if you're feeling really wealthy, maybe you could get something off the top shelf.
Starting point is 00:47:37 It's actually not a bad idea. Yeah, right? And then it becomes competitive between your bridesmaids to see who gets the nicest dress. Everyone turns up in the cheapest one. Brie and Clint. Time to watch the plot. Once upon a time, there was a girl.
Starting point is 00:47:53 She was smart, debatable, talented, athletic. Not really. Picking a movie based on just the plot line? That she can do Brie and Clint's What The Plot Our movie guessing game where you take Brie on In a game of rapid fire movie plot guessing I just realised this is like my version of The Chase
Starting point is 00:48:21 It is I'm The Chaser Yeah, yeah You're the Aussie Destroyer. Come after me. The Aussie destroyer. This week, all movies that are on the brand new Neon app.
Starting point is 00:48:33 They're all on Neon. So just for playing, Amy, you've won yourself a Neon subscription already. Congratulations. Thank you. Yay! You'll now be going for the grand prize of $450 of mobile fuel. Oh, my God. It's a jackpotted amount.
Starting point is 00:48:50 It goes up every week that someone doesn't beat Bree, and this is the 10th week in a row. Oh, no. I'm getting more and more nervous every week. Bree really wants it to get to $1,000. I really want you to get the $450 right now, Amy, okay? Your buzzer is your name. Don't wait for me to finish the movie plots.
Starting point is 00:49:07 If you think you know what it is, buzz in and give it a go. Okay. Good luck, everybody. Movies on neon. That's your only clue. All right. First movie. This film is a slick crime caper in which a thief recently released
Starting point is 00:49:24 from prison rounds up a team of... Brie. Brie. Ocean's Eleven. Is correct. I had to be one of them, but I was like, it has to be the first one.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Could have been any of them. I know, but be a bit hard. Ocean's Eleven. Well done. You're one point up. Here comes the second movie. You're going to need this, Amy, to stay in the game, okay? Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:47 All right. Let's go. Cat. Cat is a beautiful, smart, and quite abrasive person to most of her fellow teens, meaning that she doesn't attract many boys. Unfortunately for her younger sister, Bianca, house rules say that she can't date until Kat has a boyfriend. Bree.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Oh, I know this one. 10 Things I Hate About You. 10 Things I Hate About You. Is that the Heath Ledger one? It absolutely is. Absolutely correct. Yes! She's got it.
Starting point is 00:50:26 I should have known that. You should have known that one, Amy. That one was... I should have. Yeah, right. But it's a movie that you haven't seen for a while. I know. You know?
Starting point is 00:50:34 Yeah. I've watched it a million times. Tough luck, Amy. We got that Neon subscription for you, though. Congratulations. Sorry, Amy. Awesome. All right.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Thank you. No worries. And $500 up for grabs next week in What's the Plot? What a rush. Don't screw it up, mate. You're onto a good thing. Well, don't put any more pressure on me. Bree and Clint.
Starting point is 00:50:51 I want to know from people, how did your parents punish you when you were a kid? Did they get creative? You know, did they take certain things away? Or did they set traps? Traps? Yeah. Like dig a hole in the backyard and put some potato sacks over it?
Starting point is 00:51:07 I don't know. Maybe they like hid your PlayStation in a certain way where you couldn't get it or something. Yeah, right. Okay. I don't know. There's a story doing the rounds at the moment about a woman. She's copying it a little bit actually. People are on the fence about whether this was like too harsh or not.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Has she gone too far? Has she gone too far? It was her 15-year-old daughter's birthday party and her and a couple of friends, the mum said they could have the party out the back and, you know, hang out and do whatever. Yep. Anyway, so the stepdad was there with a bunch of his mates
Starting point is 00:51:42 and she got into an argument with the stepdad and she was like, can you get out of our way kind of thing. Who's arguing with the stepdad? The daughter. Okay. The one that, it's her birthday. It's her birthday, yeah. Anyway, so they had a bit of a disagreement.
Starting point is 00:51:55 The mum said, look, go apologise to him or else you're not getting your birthday present. Okay. Anyway, the daughter refused and said she was going to a friend's house. So the mum literally returned the laptop that she bought for her daughter. Oh, no. As punishment. She actually did it? She did it.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Because I know lots of parents who say they'll do it and then say they've done it. Yeah. But don't actually do it. Oh, no. So she actually went and returned it, and then she was looking for, like, people online. She was like, have I gone too far? And what's the consensus?
Starting point is 00:52:32 People are on the fence. Some people are like, you know, kids need to learn that there are consequences, and other people are like, you can't, you know, give someone a gift with it, you know. It's a great present. It's quite a major present. And if the kid is in the wrong, then you can't reward them with a laptop.
Starting point is 00:52:48 But you know what you could do? She could earn it back. From the store with money. No. Well, I wouldn't have taken it back, but I would have been like, you're not getting it until you show me that. Okay, so do I think this mum's gone too far? I'm going to be a great parent.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Yeah, you've got to be diplomatic. Everyone's a great parent in theory. It's when push comes to shove and she's calling you a B-I going to be a great parent. Yeah, you've got to be diplomatic. Everyone's a great parent in theory. It's when push comes to shove and she's calling you a B-I-T-C-H. Yeah, it's going to be difficult. That's when you've got to keep your calm. Under pressure. No, I'm good under pressure. And not chuck the laptop in the pool.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Yeah, true. If the kid is in the wrong, then I don't think the mum's gone too far. I think she's done well. I think she's stood her ground. Oh, it's a little bit harsh. Right. You're going to be the harsh dad. No, I think I'm going to be a pushover.
Starting point is 00:53:25 I'm going to be the cool mum. I think I'm going to be a total pushover. Did your parents punish you? They had a good one. If we were fighting over the PlayStation, they used to try and take the games off us. Didn't work. We'd find the games.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Yeah. They'd try and turn the TV off. Wouldn't work when your TV worked. Come on, you're the boomers, not us. They eventually resorted to turning the power off to the house. Oh, smart. But then that affects them. I know it does, but they didn't care at that stage.
Starting point is 00:53:53 They're like, these kids can't reach the switchboard because it's up high in the laundry. Flick the power off to the whole house. Game's gone. Game can't be saved. And that's our punishment. That is smart. What about your parents?
Starting point is 00:54:03 I feel like your farming parents would have had some creative punishment. Oh, there were some creative ones. My dad would take the keys off my motorbike, and also our bush-bashing car that we'd drive around. He'd take the keys to everything. Who are you, Mad Max? We're farm kids, right? And then, of course, I grew up in a family where—
Starting point is 00:54:22 If we misbehaved, Dad would cut off our supply of two-stroke. Seriously, Dad would cut off our supply of two-stroke. Yeah. Seriously, he would. He'd be like, I'm taking that two-stroke oil away from you. You're like, well, I'm going to seize this engine up. No more Yamaha MX. No, and then I grew up in a family where my parents, on the occasion, would hit us with a wooden spoon.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Oh, okay. And there was one particular time... On the bum. On the bum, on the bum. We'd always get hit on the occasion would hit us with a wooden spoon. Oh, okay. And there was one particular time. On the bum. On the bum, on the bum. We'd always get hit on the bum. And my mum told me she knew the exact moment where she knew that I was too old to be smacked anymore. Is it when you told her you liked it?
Starting point is 00:54:57 No. That's weird. Sorry. I actually, yeah, that was real weird. Inappropriate. No, it's when I was saying to her, I'd say to her, I'd be like, that didn't hurt. I'd be like, is that all you got?
Starting point is 00:55:15 Right. And that was all she had? Yeah, and then she'd call in Big Steve, my dad, and I'd absolutely... And he'd come in with the barbecue spatula. Yeah. Right, okay, let's take some calls on creative punishments from people, shall we? Yeah, how did your parents punish you?
Starting point is 00:55:32 And maybe you're the parents and you're pretty proud of a punishment that you've dished out to your kids. You staged some psychological warfare on your kids for playing up. Yeah, 0800DIALZM. What was the punishment that you got given as a kid? Or you can text us on 9696. Free in Clint. $500 up for grabs shortly with the merge, thanks to Neon.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Did your parents get creative with the punishments when you were a kid? Yeah. So many texts coming through on this. It's ridiculous. What is it, creative parents or children of creative parents or creative parents texting us? I think it's a bit of both. I just want to read out a few.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Someone messaged us on Facebook and they said, her name's Erin. She said, my older sister had to sit at the dining room table, call all of her friends to tell them that her birthday party had been cancelled because she had been too naughty. Ouch. Oh, that is rough. We also had a woman named
Starting point is 00:56:28 Alison who's listening from Aussie message us on Facebook. She said my mum used to melt my Barbie dolls in front of me but only slightly so they looked really messed up with the arms and legs at all angles. That's sadistic. That is savage
Starting point is 00:56:44 Alison. That's like a horror movie. They don't melt the whole Barbie because mum knows that she'll have to go and buy another Barbie. She just horribly disfigures the doll to make sure you've learned your lesson. Samantha, hi. Did you get a creative punishment? Hey, yeah, I did. So my mum would
Starting point is 00:57:00 headlock the pantry so my brother and I couldn't raid the food when she looked at the phone. That's brilliant. That seems less punishing and more just like self-defense. She knew that you guys were hungry, hungry hippos. Well, it was awful because there's always fruit. There's fruit in the fruit bowl. So she'd always leave out the healthy stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:17 But you don't want bloody fruit, do you? Yeah, yeah. The chips and the lollies weren't left out. It was always the boring crap. There's nothing more wounding that a parent can say than when you go, mum, I'm hungry, and they go, well, there's fruit in the bowl. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Sorry about that. Have a banana. Tell me the last time an apple filled you up, mum. Hey, you stay away from apples. Yeah, exactly. When you were craving lollies and you settled for an apple. I've never eaten an apple and gone, yum, that's enough. Yeah, they have a slot.
Starting point is 00:57:44 I have. Really? There's my dad's an apple and gone, yum, that's enough. Yeah, they have a site. I have. Really? My dad's an apple farmer. But you're lying. No, I'm not. You've never had a delicious meal of apples and gone, oh, that's just what I felt like. Yeah, I've had a few different varieties. Let's talk to
Starting point is 00:58:00 Steph. Steph, you're a mum, so did you dish out the punishment? I certainly did. What did you do, Steph? When my kids started swearing, I would make them write out words from the dictionary. That's a punish. Yeah, right. Like all the real long words.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Oh, no, like if they said an S word, it would be words from the S part of the dictionary. That's clever. Did you end up raising very intelligent, highly articulate children because of it? I'll let you know when I'm done. Oh, you're still going. Yeah, right. Okay, cool. I like that.
Starting point is 00:58:35 I feel like the premise is, here's a bunch of other S words you can say other than that one. Yeah, they're like sphincter. Mum's like, damn, backfire. Literally. Sam, hi. Hello. Helloincter. Mum's like, damn, backfired. Literally. Sam, hi. Hello. Hello, Sam.
Starting point is 00:58:49 What was the punishment? My sister got a tattoo when she was 13, so my dad hates tattoos. What? Yeah, he hates tattoos and piercings. That's the part I'm not shocked at. Wait, wait, wait. Yeah, Sam. 13's quite young for a tattoo. Who tattooed a 13-year-old?
Starting point is 00:59:04 Oh, one of my older brother's friends. Whoa. So this is a backyard job. Yeah, he kind of for a tattoo. Who tattooed a 13-year-old? Oh, one of my older brother's friends. Whoa. So this is a backyard job. Yeah, he kind of wanted a dummy. Yeah. Of course he did. Oh, well, yeah. Okay, so.
Starting point is 00:59:13 What did your dad do? He put skin thinner in her moisturizer so she'd never get another one because it hurt too much. Oh, jeez. Whoa, that is. And did she get another one? I feel like your sister is stuck in the middle of some quite... Did she ever get another tattoo? No, she hasn't.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Oh, well. We ask this question on occasion, and we ask it with love. What part of New Zealand did this happen in? Huntley. Right, that's enough said. Thank you very much, Sam. Thank you for calling, Sam. And we'll finish with Rachel.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Rachel, what's the punishment that you got? Well, I actually dished it out. My wee fella, his cell phone died unbeknownst to him. But the same day it died, he had a real meltdown. Okay. Grabbed one of his toys, held it against the wall and dented the wall. Oh. So I grabbed his phone and him, took him outside,
Starting point is 01:00:08 threw the phone on the concrete and said, right, you damaged my stuff, I damaged yours. Hasn't stepped out of line. Rachel! But you knew already that the phone was actually broken? Yeah, I knew it was already dead. Oh, you're an absolute genius. Yeah, you called his bluff.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Wow. Yeah, well, my mum never did. You see, you just wind your mind and she let you away with stuff. So the one thing she taught me was to follow through. Follow through. And if you have to break a few phones in the process, well, so be it, Rachel. Yeah, you know what happens, Rachel, when you don't follow through? They end up like me.
Starting point is 01:00:39 So that's a warning for everyone listening. Thanks, Rach. Appreciate the call. Thanks, Rach. Appreciate the call. Thanks, Rach. We're going to do birthday banger next. If you want to play with us, phones are open. 0800 dials at M. Bree and Clint.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Hey. It's my birthday. It's my birthday. Bree and Clint's birthday banger. All right. Time to figure out what was number one on these three people's 16th birthdays. Chantel, hi. Hi.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Hi. How are you? I'm good. How are you? Not too bad. What'sth birthdays. Chantel, hi. Hi. Hi. How are you? I'm good. How are you? Not too bad. What's your birthday, Chantel? 16th of February, 1993. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:12 You were 16 in 2009 on the 16th of February. And in 2009, this topped the charts. They belong together. Nice. Kelly Clarkson, My Life Would Suck Without You. Do you like it? What a banger. What a banger, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:33 That is a banger. She had a lot of bangers, didn't she? She got a lot of powerful, emotional bangers. Yeah, let's get Thomas on. Hey, Thomas. G'day, Tom. Heya. What's your birthday?
Starting point is 01:01:44 21st of the 1st of 93. All right. You were 16 in 2009 on the 21st of May. And, Thomas, this is your birthday banger. It's a love that I've come from around and it knocks you down. Kerry Hilson. Kanye and Neo. What a banger, eh?
Starting point is 01:02:03 What a banger. What a banger. Knock you down. It's a regular on Friday Jams. It's a good song. You like itanger, eh? What a banger. What a banger. Knock you down. It's a regular on Friday Jams. That's a good song. You like it? Yeah, it's a banger. Yeah, good.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Okay, cool. Two from two so far. Let's round it out with Shelley this afternoon. Hello, Shell. How you going? Good. How are you, mate? Good, thanks.
Starting point is 01:02:18 That's good. Let's do your birthday banger. What's your birthday? 2nd of July, 2nd of July. Four. Okay, you were 16 in 1990 birthday? 2nd of July 1964. Okay, you were 16 in 1990 on the 2nd of July. And Shelly, if you can hear us
Starting point is 01:02:32 I can hear the ocean in this, Shelly. This is your birthday banger. Daddy cool. The eagle Rock. You like that, Shelly? It's okay. It's okay. It's okay.
Starting point is 01:02:50 All right, wait there. We got in some serious trouble for playing that song once. Yeah, didn't we? Ross was like, why this? I want it on the record that that's not why I'm not voting for that, though. Okay. I'm not voting for it because I'm worried about what Ross would say. In fact, Ross is away.
Starting point is 01:03:06 He's up a mountain skiing at the moment. Yeah, he wouldn't even know. Is Ross skiing? Yeah. Or actually... Well, he's not snowboarding, is he? He's there. Whether he's taking...
Starting point is 01:03:15 I can't imagine a six-foot-nine guy like Ross skiing. I think he might be tobogganing. Oh, yeah, I could picture that. I think he might just be sitting around having a beer, actually. Make a snowman. Yeah, make a snow angel. Yeah, and be at the mountain pub. Kelly Clarkson for me.
Starting point is 01:03:32 That's the winner. Yeah, I'll go with you on that. You agree? Okay, let's do it. That means, Chantel, you've won birthday banger. Yay! Oh, thank you. Enjoy your arvo, Chantel.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Here we go. Kelly Clarkson, power ballad for Birthday Banger. Brian Clint, Zidim. Guess this means you're sorry You're standing at my door Guess this means you take back All you said before Like how much you wanted anyone but me said you'd never come back
Starting point is 01:04:13 but here you are again Together now Forever united here somehow You got a piece of me And I see My life Would've started without you Maybe I was stupid For telling you goodbye Maybe I was wrong for
Starting point is 01:04:53 Trying to pick a fight I know that I've got issues But you're pretty messed up too Either way I found out I'm nothing without you Cause we belong together now Forever in the light and here's the light You got a piece of me is
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Starting point is 01:05:43 is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is It's so dysfunctional I really shouldn't miss you But I can't let you go Cause we belong together now Forever united here somehow You got a piece of me And I'm the thing My life What it's all about Peace. Kelly Clarkson on ZM.
Starting point is 01:07:00 That's the winner of Birthday Banger. My life would suck without you. Have you ever watched her afternoon show? No, I haven't. I've heard your review of it, though. I mean, it's all right. You just asked me what my favourite Kelly Clarkson song was. Yeah, I just realised I'm playing a live version.
Starting point is 01:07:19 I loved Breakaway. Yeah, that's... Oh! Yeah, that's good. I related so much to this song. I remember when it came out. It's a country girl. Oh, just, you know, as a teenager. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Oh, and this part too, yeah. Hey, this is exciting. We've got a $500 prize and a Neon subscription to give away next. If you know your TV theme songs. Yeah, this is the game for you. Be listening out for that to play next. We're actually going to give you a preview of the songs today. Oh, we are?
Starting point is 01:08:01 Yeah. Okay, cool. So we want you to call if you can identify correctly these two TV theme songs that we've merged together because, of course, Neon and Lightbox have merged, so we've merged some TV themes together. Makes sense. If you can tell which two TV shows these themes are from, you can call now.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Bree and Clint. Bree and Clint's The Merge. With Neon. This is such a cool prize. Neon's merged with Lightbox to bring you some of the best and binge-worthy TV series and movies. There's so many on there. Titles like The Handmaid's Tale, Game of Thrones, Love Island,
Starting point is 01:08:34 Breaking Bad, just to name a few. It's really good, and it's available on more devices now as well. The new Neon app. And to celebrate, we've got a Neon subscription and $500 cash to give away with our game, The Merge. That's right. All you have to do is we gave you the two different Merge TV themes earlier, which we're about to play again, and you just need to tell us which two shows they are.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Lisa's here. Hi, Lisa. Hey, Clint. How are you? I'm good, thanks. How are you doing? Yeah, good. Let's see if we can get you 500 bucks.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Here's today's TV themes. All right, Lisa, what are we dealing with there? What have you got? I reckon it is the in-betweeners and Sex and the City. Exactly right. Lisa, nice job. I reckon it is The Inbetweeners and Sex and the City exactly right Lisa nice work $500
Starting point is 01:09:28 and a neon subscription for you amazing thanks so much do you watch both of those Lisa oh well used to watch
Starting point is 01:09:36 Sex and the City much more like when I was younger back in the day and obviously then back in the UK as well The Inbetweeners
Starting point is 01:09:42 so yeah The Inbetweeners is just a classic, right? And it ended and it was perfect and it's just there forever. It's such a fantastic show. And you can re-watch both. Amazing. Oh, that's amazing, guys.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Thanks so, so much. And $500 worth of garlic bread to eat while you watch it. So, perfect. Congrats. You can sign up for your 14-day free trial right now at neontv.co.nz. T's and C's apply. Next on the show, we haven't harassed her for a while,
Starting point is 01:10:08 so we're going to get your mum on the phone. Yeah, just for that reason. Just to harass her. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much. Okay, all right, now I'm down. If you like that, then stick around.
Starting point is 01:10:17 That's the sort of stuff you enjoy. This is the show for you. Bree and Clint. I actually heard Fletch Vaughan and Megan talking about this this morning, but it was the conversation around Prince William Has come out and said that he once bought Catherine a terrible gift No excuse If you're the future king of England There's no excuse for buying a shit gift
Starting point is 01:10:38 Well he said it was really early in the relationship Doesn't matter And he believed it wasn't He didn't think it was a bad gift He thought it was a good gift. If you're the future king of England and you don't know what to get them, get them a county estate.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Yeah, they'll love it. Get them a Clydesdale. Get them a car. Yeah, get them a horse and carriage. Get them a Rolls Royce. You've got so many options. What was the gift? Well, let's see what you think.
Starting point is 01:10:59 He bought her, as a romantic gift, because it was early on in the relationship, a pair of binoculars. That is a gift. Not good. That's a gift that he wanted. Yeah. He wanted a cool pair of binoculars.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Yeah, not good early in the relationship. Either that or he's into birdwatching, and I imagine that is something that he's into, birdwatching, quite boring. And he's gone, oh, I'll get her into birdwatching. Yeah, this will be great. Yeah. It's like when fishing guys get their partner a fishing rod because they think it's a good way to justify doing more fishing.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Yeah, and they get a pink one. They go, babe, we can go fishing together. I thought it'd be fun this afternoon to, you know, rile my mum up a bit because she has always went on and on and on about my dad buying her really crappy gifts. Oh, is your dad a bad gifter? Apparently.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Right. So I thought what we can do is you call her like it's just you calling and pretend like I've told you that she's gotten a lot of good gifts from Big Steve. Oh, tell her I need to get Lucy's birthday present sorted. And has she got some tips for me? Hello? Oh, hello. Mama Di, it's Clint.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Oh, hi, Clint. How are you going? How are you? That was a very sultry hello. Have I disturbed you from something? No, I'm babysitting, so I just wanted to be a bit quiet. Oh, okay. No worries, no worries.
Starting point is 01:12:21 That's fine. I understand. Hey, I just wanted a little bit of advice because Lucy's birthday is coming up later on this year and I need to get her a present. And Bree always says that Big Steve gets you the best presents. So I was wondering if I could take some advice from stuff that he's got you in the past.
Starting point is 01:12:39 Oh, what a mop or a broom. He did not get you a mop. I don't think so. No, he fared income dead and I don't think he'll ever forget it. Well, I won't ever forget it. No, he's not the best person. Hang on, hang on, hang on. I need to make some notes.
Starting point is 01:12:55 So a mop, you're saying that's a no, that's a bad gift? Yes. Okay, don't get a mop. Absolutely. And was the broom better received? Absolutely not. No, don't get a mop. Absolutely. Was the broom better received? Absolutely not. No, okay. Because I felt like shoving it where the sun don't shine.
Starting point is 01:13:10 What if I pitch it as like a cord-free vacuum cleaner? No. Right, okay, no. Anything that's mechanical, most of it, no. What about perfumes? Has Big Steve ever got you a good perfume? Yeah, normally at Christmas time he was buying perfumes every Christmas. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:32 For some reason he's gone off that. Mum, that's because we would buy the perfumes and just say Dad bought it. I was just about to say, Brianna, the only people that buy me presents are Brianna and Amber because they get together and they actually do it. Yeah, and they're good at it too. Yeah, I know that. Don't worry, don't worry.
Starting point is 01:13:51 If I want real advice, I will go to Bri. I'm asleep, Clint. He was good in the beginning, but I think it was his mother. Okay, that's been very helpful. I really appreciate it. Birthday's not until November, so we've got lots of time to work on this. No, I'll tell you the worst part. No, that's been very helpful. I really appreciate it. Birthday's not until November, so we've got lots of time to work on this. No, I'll tell you the worst part. No, that's it.
Starting point is 01:14:09 We're wrapping you up. No, the worst part is when he comes home and he wants to buy a gift for one of his mates and he hasn't even bought me a birthday present. Jeez, I tell you. You better start buying grog for me, I think, because I'll start drinking. Bree and Clint. Jeez, I tell you. You better start buying grog for me, I think, because I'll start drinking. It has been a while, but I feel like it's my duty to bring some aviation news to the table. It is your duty.
Starting point is 01:14:36 It's both of our duties, and I'm glad you've taken on the burden today. Yep, I recognise that we haven't been doing it, so here I am. And this is quite interesting to me, and I mean, well, you and I love aviation-based news. It's our passion. You know, it's our passion.
Starting point is 01:14:48 We love any of that stuff. But I saw this thing on the internet which was talking about how much it costs to hire a private Boeing 787 Dreamliner. Oh, right. You can hire those. There's one in the whole world that you can hire privately. A jumbo jet. Apparently, yes.
Starting point is 01:15:08 There's only one. And anyway, I was watching this thing online and it was talking about this one private Boeing 787. It's huge, humongous. I'm trying to think who would hire it. The Kardashians. They wouldn't get a jumbo. They'd just get a private jet, like a
Starting point is 01:15:26 Lear, surely. I swear, Kim, I've seen on her Instagram before, her and Kanye hired a jumbo jet before. Really? I'm pretty positive. Okay, well then I need to know how much it costs to hire one. And I mean, princes and... No. No, not princes. Well, they'd have their own.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Well, actually, maybe like Saudi princes and stuff. Yeah, that's what I was thinking, yeah. But Prince Harry would cop it majorly. No, not him, but like, yeah, not princes. Well, they'd have their own. Well, actually, maybe like Saudi princes and stuff. Yeah, that's what I was thinking, yeah. But Prince Harry would cop at majorly. No, not him, but like, yeah, like Saudi princes. Anyway, on board there's like a master bedroom, lounge rooms. Oh, you're going to sell me on it first before you whack me with the price. Yeah. Bunch of dining rooms.
Starting point is 01:16:00 There's pretty much, there's no seat on this plane. So there's actually a section on the plane where all of the staff can sit. Yes. So obviously. You mean there's not much there's no seat on this plane so there's actually a section on the plane where all of the staff can sit yes so obviously you mean there's not like aisles there's not like rows no no no but oh there would hope to be couches and pool tables yeah for the people hiring it but for your staff so say your bodyguards or you know whoever works for you yeah they all get to sit in like a first class for the band you've hired to play on board the plane. Yeah, like a first class style. There's a gym.
Starting point is 01:16:28 There's multiple bedrooms. You know, it's lavish. Okay, I'm sounding good. I'm keen to hire this plane. If you want to hire this private Boeing 787, it's going to cost you around $70,000 an hour. So I've done the math. Wait. So I've done the math. Wait there.
Starting point is 01:16:47 I've done the math. Yeah. So one way from LA to, say, Sydney will cost you around $1.1 million. Whoa. So round trip. Yeah. So say you're in Sydney and you're like, I want to hire a private plane.
Starting point is 01:17:03 $2.2 million round trip. What if I just want to shoot to the mount for the weekend? It's only a 35-minute flight. That'll cost you a cool $100,000. ZM's Free in Clint. The podcast with mobile smiles. Register, fill up, redeem points for rewards. Easy.
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