ZM's Bree & Clint - ZM's Bree & Clint Podcast – July 7th 2020

Episode Date: July 7, 2020

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Hi everybody and welcome to the Brie and Clint podcast. It's good to be here. Oh sorry no. Oh she's got headphones today. Sorry uh so did you want did you say something producer Anastasia? Oh hello. Yeah I've got a bone to pick with you Anastasia. Yeah and we've also got some admin to do with producer Anastasia as well. So second day in um I uh was very shocked to see that some hot beverages were made by Anastasia for her producer bin. Not you and me, Clint. No. And then they brought them into the producer's booth and drunk them right in front of us. Now, I wanted to give you both, but particularly you, Anastasia, the new member of our team,

the benefit of the doubt. And I said, no, no, no. She might be drinking water from a mug. Because if you go and get a glass of water, you don't generally ask. You don't have to ask if anybody wants some water. You can. It'd be nice if you did. But you don't have to.

You don't have to, though. But I said, I can tell from the way she's sipping that it is a hot drink. And I ran out to the producer's booth and you tried to scull it, but I saw before you had finished that it was a hot drink. Well, basically, I looked over at Ben. He was gazing at you two in the studio with two bottles of beautifully looking fresh water. I believe, would this be a cold beverage you'd think? I thought he looks a little bit parched.

We'd been speaking about Milo the day before, we were both quite parched I thought. And I made the exact call that I wasn't going to distract you guys from the important job of hosting New Zealand's Best Drive Show. What a load of bullshit. I'm not buying it. Let me tell you, like in a family, in my family, if you're going up to make a cup of tea or a hot beverage, you never just make it for one or two members. You make it for everyone that wants one.

No, no, no. Oh, that wants one. Yes. Yeah, right. I was going to say, don't go hard and fast with four teas every time because I won't always feel like a tea. You say, would anyone like a tea? Then I have to drink your stupid guilt tea that I don't even want.

Yeah. And if you do not ask, and I see. Okay, what is this? Okay, so what is this? It's her second day on the job. Is this a verbal warning? Are you going to call Ross Boss? This is a verbal warning.

Okay. Is it? Are you going as far as a verbal warning? Verbal warning. This is one of three strikes, right? Is this strike one? Strike one. Wait, do trial periods still exist?

Is that a thing? Yeah. You're in the 90-day hire and fire, yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, it's not looking good. After that, you can strike out. Anyone up for a couple? Is it too late?

No it's too late And now no one will hold a grudge We'll move on for this I've learnt from my lesson And I would like to formally apologise I accept that apology I can do better Am I allowed to come back tomorrow?

Yeah you are Mate you've still got two strikes You are Sweet What do you want tomorrow? And if you like to live dangerously I'd go right up to your third strike. Do something tomorrow terrible.

I don't know. Cutbury's headphone cord or something. If you had to be on an off day. Yeah, good question. Don't get me when I've got my period because look out. Quick bit of admin. Yesterday was all about nicknames for the producers and James has posted in our podcast family some suggestions.

So I thought we'd just run through some nickname suggestions for producer Anastasia. Producer Anastasia Beverly Hills. You'd only get that if you watch RuPaul's Drag Race, which I've already covered off that no one here watches it. Do you not watch it either, producer Anastasia? I'm not much of a makeup person and I get that a lot where people, and's also pronounced anastasia beverly hills and that's why i call you i don't want to condone that that incorrect name usage so um yeah probably not that one i think anastasia

is quite pretty okay it kind of sounds like pistachio and then i just get hungry yeah how good is sucking a pistachio shell okay there's there's two more suggestions. I'm going to go through them. Second one comes from, oh, actually, Big Gay Gorgeous Al has posted in the podcast group. He suggested producer Anaconda. Yeah, I don't know. I don't want to be called a snake.

No, fair enough. I mean, I've only mucked up the teething once. That's not really snake worthy. I was thinking a big schlong. Yeah tea thing once That's not really Snake worthy I was thinking A big schlong Yeah What? That's what Al

I think Al was as well Yeah That's what he would have And finally Anita has suggested Just a simple abbreviation Of Anastasia Producer Anis

What? Oh my god That's a winner Yeah Is that it? Producer Anis I like that No Anis

Producer Anis A-N-A-S A-N-A-S Although your name Is A-N-I-S isn't it? That's a winner Yeah Is that an anus? I like that No, anus Producing anus A-N-A-S A-N-A-S Although your name is A-N-I-S, isn't it? Her shit I had to think about that A-N-A-S How do you spell it?

A-N-A-S Anus Anus Anus Anus Roll these around You don't have to decide now Someone said they liked

Ruminate on it Let it brew in your mind Like a good strong tea Nice Or a cup of an ass Stop getting the sugar now. Ruminate on it. Let it brew in your mind like a good strong tea. Or a cup of Vaness. Someone in there said they didn't mind my suggestion. What was yours? Did you comment? Which I said yesterday which was producer Disney.

Why? Because Anastasia. Did you mean Fantasia? No, isn't there a Disney character named Anastasia? Oh, right It was coincidentally released the same year of my birth What?

And yeah, my mum was really angry Because she wanted us all to have weird names And then this movie came out What are your siblings' names? Beatrix and Thomasina Damn, girl, your mum went hundy I think you got probably the least strange one Well, no, that's because the movie came out that year

And now there's a bunch of 22-year-olds roaming around. Are you named after the Disney character? No, it's a Russian princess that mum liked the name of. Because that nickname fits really well then. Your mum, where does she buy her weed? Nice. It sounds strong. Sounds real strong.

Just kidding, Just kidding. Just kidding. We've gone hard on you on day two. Yep. Hope you learnt some lessons. Yeah. So this is the school of hard knocks, girl. Welcome to the team.

Yeah. Before we go... Do you want your prison tattoo now or later? The eye drop? Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Unless you have killed someone. Here's a podcast, everybody. Enjoy. no, no. Unless you have killed someone. Here's a podcast, everybody.

Enjoy. Hey, Google. What's the time? It's 3 p.m. Give or take a minute. Alexa, play ZM on iHeartRadio. Playing ZM on iHeartRadio. Hey, Siri, when are Brie and Clint on?

Brie and Clint are on air in five, four, three, two, one. Hi, everybody. Brie and Clint. Go on. No, no, I'll say it. I'll say it. It's fine. Say what you just said to me. So we're talking about how Kurt Cobain's guitar sold a couple of weeks ago.

The guitar that he did his MTV Unplugged with, his Nirvana MTV Unplugged, sold for $6 million. And the sweater that he wore during that sold, I think was last year, for $400,000. Yeah, and I'm pretty sure that's the most expensive guitar in the world. And you said, surely not. Surely there's an Elvis one. Well, I said, surely there's someone like Elvis or, I mean, there's so many amazing artists. And I said Kurt Cobain's cooler than Elvis.

No, no, no, no. Because I never said that Elvis was cooler. You said Elvis isn't cool. Anymore. We're about to have a fight. Elvis will always be cool. Of course he will, but it's Nirvana, and it's like 90s chic. I didn't say anything against Nirvana.

I think Nirvana is cool as hell. I love Nirvana. I'm just saying Elvis is still cool. Okay, yeah, I'll agree with that. If you were a millionaire and you had that guitar from Kurt Cobain or whatever the most iconic Elvis guitar is, I don't know what

that guitar is. Probably the one from when he wore the leather, black leather suit. Okay, yeah, when he was a bit, oh, before he was a bit. When he was real hot. When he was real hot. Yeah. Not the white leather suit. No, no, no. Okay, Elvis is black. This is so, this song. No, no, no. Okay. Elvis is black. This is chat for the gold, by the way. Elvis is guitar.

Yep. Or Kurt Cobain's guitar. And you're a millionaire. Yep. And they're both $6 million. They cost the same. They cost the same. Which one are you buying?

Elvis's guitar. Really? Yes. Oh, okay. Can you play guitar? Absolutely not. Can you? I can do three chords.

You can do more than me. And I can do the Marais drum, and that's about it. See, well, you can do more than me. Good afternoon, everybody. Today on the show, we're going to be playing the Insta Fame game just before 5 o'clock, which I've just realized you can't win a prize on, so that doesn't matter, but it will be fun for us. We should change that.

How can we give away mobile fuel with the Instafame game? We just play for someone. We'll find out a way. Yeah, let's do that today. Yeah, we'll figure out a way. Yeah, okay, that's coming up. What else?

Also, we announced yesterday we're going on tour with our Friday Okie Live. A lot of interest in this. Hopefully we'll have a venue to announce for you this afternoon. TBC, but the Auckland venue

for next Friday is in the pipeline and then we're going Hamilton, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin from there. It's going to be great. I'm so excited. I'm pumped. Next, though, we are wondering whether Bree's phone has been hacked.

Not recently. Not recently. I read this thing online about, it's called stalkerware. And if you've never heard of that before, think of the TV show You, and that's a real life thing. Okay. I'll tell you all the details if you're at risk or if someone may have installed it on your phone.

Yeah, and we'd love anyone who knows about this sort of stuff. Yeah, an expert. To help us out after this. Here's Harry Styles, Watermelon Sugar. Bree and Clint, see them. Speaking of having your pick, I read this thing online, which I was a big fan of the show You, which you also watched.

Yes. If you haven't seen it, it's where a guy called Joe pretty much stalks this woman and he does all these real creepy things where he looks into all of her background and her social media. It's a terrifying story of how much we overshare and how someone can use that against you against you yeah yeah so he monitors her movements and all that kind of stuff anyway it was about this woman her name's sarah i think their names have been changed obviously in this article

but her name's sarah and she explains how her boyfriend at the time will um did a very similar thing to her. He put her in a glass box. No, not that far. But she was finding herself in these situations where he would know all about these private conversations she'd had with people. Right. But she hadn't told him any of it. Red flag.

Well, she was kind of like, it happened a few times and then she was like, wait a minute, this is strange. And then she kind of looked into it a little bit and she learnt about a thing called stalkerware. Okay. Have you heard of that before? I've heard of spyware on your computer but not stalkerware. Yeah, so apparently stalkerware is a type of software

which is designed to run in the background of smartphones without the owner's knowledge. Yeah, right. How terrifying is that? So they can monitor stuff like your location, phone calls, text messages, passwords, contacts, photos, emails. A jealous partner's dream. Well, pretty much. But I was like, oh, so, you know, how do they go about getting this, you know, to work or whatever? So they need to be able to have your phone,

get into your phone and they install it. Yeah. And then apparently I was like, well, how would you not be able to tell then? It looks, they reckon sometimes it can look like a calculator or, you know, stuff like that. They call it an app that you wouldn't normally open. Yeah. And if you don't suspect that you've got it on there,

you wouldn't be looking for it. That's the thing. No, you wouldn't. I've got dozens of apps. You would have no idea. Sitting. That's the thing. No, you wouldn't. I've got dozens of apps sitting in folders. You just hide it in a folder called utilities or something. Put it deep down in one of those folders. And no one would ever see it. Not that we're telling you how to install stalkerware or anything.

This creeps me out so much. Anyway, I was like, oh, I wonder, you know, as if this is actually happening in real life. Apparently, one in ten people have admitted to using stalkerware to track a partner. No. Yes. No. That's what this article says.

That must include people who use things like Snapchat Map and Find My Friends. Well, yeah, I guess so. They must be safe. Because this is like next level. Because one in ten people is not a psychopath who's installing spyware on their partner's phone. Careful, you might be offending one in ten people.

Well, if I am. I'm just kidding. If I am. It seems very high to me. I don't have a phone and don't track me at all. You told me, and this is what I want to do with this. Yeah. Because we were talking about this at lunchtime and then you told me a story about something that happened to your phone years ago.

It was about ten years ago. And it made me go, wait, did you have some sort of stalkerware installed on your phone at the time? So tell me what happened. So I was living in a house with two of my friends and I remember one of the friends at the time, me and the other girl were a little bit annoyed at her because she was quite messy and whatever.

Anyway, one night I was sitting in my room and I get a text message. So I open my phone and I look at it and it was a text message, but it wasn't written to me. Like it was a conversation which I'd never seen before, never been a part of. And to me, it looked like it was directed at my friend who was also living in the same house. Okay. Anyway, so I looked at it and then took me a few minutes to figure it out. And then so I looked at it and then took me a few minutes to figure it out and then another text message came through and then one more after that all directed at this friend of mine who lived in the house.

And you're sure you had your own phone? It was definitely my own phone, had not been drinking because I remember I was about to go to like sport training or something and I was like freaked out and I was like, this is so weird. And then I thought, has she gotten any text messages that were meant to go to me? Anyway, and then I kind of left it and then when I opened

my phone again they were gone. Okay, this is what I want to know because there'll be people out there who know about this stuff. Can anyone explain why Bree would have got her housemates text messages onto her phone Has it happened to you before? That then deleted themselves. Do you know about, it is, it is, but do you know about

things like this? And is there any explanation for it? I've always wanted to know. Yeah, if you do have an insight, or maybe this sort of thing has happened to you 0800 dial ZM. You can text us at 96962 if you need to stay anonymous but very curious. I'd love to know.

Bree and Clint. Cool. We're talking about stalkerware on your phone. Something good to be aware of, so to speak. Yeah. It's in the name. A stalker will install it on your phone so they can see everything you're doing. Or someone.

It could be like your partner that's checking up on you. Like which you could, they could be that close to you. Your partner can be a stalker. That's what I mean. Yeah. they could be that close to you. Your partner can be a stalker. That's what I mean. Yeah, they could be that close to you. It's been around for ages. Old school people will remember when you could put keystroke trackers on MSN Messenger so you could see what your partner was writing

to other people. We're so old, aren't we? MSN Messenger was like. The original text message. It was like Facebook chat. The original, back in the day. Yeah, and you could block people. That was the best bit, remember?

Yeah. So you could be online, but they couldn't see that you were online. Yeah, that was very good. Anyway, something happened to Bree, and I'm wondering if she had stalkware installed on her phone and she didn't know about it. Anyway, I was living in a house with two other girls, and at one point I kept getting my housemates' text messages.

There was three in a row, and I figured out that they were for her because there was specific details that I shouldn't have seen. And I was like, what the hell is going on? Because I had an iPhone and I was like, why am I getting my flatmate's text messages?

So how could you possibly have been getting her messages? And then they deleted themselves. And then, yeah, the next time I went into the phone, they were gone. If there wasn't something running in the background. We're trying to find an explanation.

Melissa, this happened to you. Melissa. Melissa, sorry. Yeah. No, it is. Yeah, same kind of korero. I was messaging my daughter. Well, actually, my daughter had messaged me via PM on Facebook.

You know what I mean? Yeah. And I had commented on a top that I was going to buy. And so my daughter messaged and she was like, oh, nice top, are you going to buy it? And right in front of my eyeballs, someone on my account, but I didn't know how because I've only got one phone,

which I'm thinking has got the only Facebook account I've got. Someone replied on my behalf, no, it doesn't fit. This was happening as I was watching. No, it doesn't fit. And then, not only that, about three seconds later, message removed. You know how you can do that?

Yeah, I'm so creeped out. And you can also fit? That's terrifying. I know. So do you think that there might be something installed on your phone? Well, I don't. I'm in creeped out. And you can also see it. That's terrifying. I know. So creeped out. So do you think that there might be something installed on your phone? Well, I don't. I'm in my 40s, so, like, I'm not too tech savvy. I was like to my girl, oh, how can someone do that?

And my girl was like, oh, my God, I can't. You didn't log into your Facebook on an iPad at Noel Eaming or something when you were checking them out in the shop or something and leave it on there, did you? And you know what? It's not even a fancy phone. Well, to me it is, but it's a Huawei. So it's not like an iPhone or anything like that, you know?

Right. Right. Okay. Because it's interesting because obviously that's through Facebook, which you can log in off other devices, whereas text messages has to come from the phone. Well, let's talk to someone who knows that their phone had been hacked. Mary's here. Hi, Mary. Hi, Mary. Hey, guys. How you doing? Not too bad. Did this happen to you? Yeah, mate. So not with the text messages, but I found some, so basically I found extra apps

in my app. Okay. And I had two Chromes and two of all the google suites i had doubled up so you don't think much of it because you're like oh you know old android brains just make these things and put them there because it's like chrome and google yeah but it was actually spyware um which and of course google save your password so i'm not sure of that tell but my um facebook was getting um quite regularly hacked even when i changed my um password so did you find out who had installed it on your phone who do you think it was i just i yeah it was my ex he was quite he was he knew his way around it systems so but when you said like there were conversations that had been like you'd had privately that were being repeated you're like, what?

Yeah, there was quite a few different things in which I was being hacked as well. That's disgusting. What else, Mary? What else? Emails. All my emails were being... Which makes you go,

because you do everything on your phone these days and it makes you go, how much has this person seen? That's a real invasion of privacy. Yeah, well, not only that, on our Wi-Fi at home, he'd put stuff on there as well, so everything was... Everything in the house was dead tracked. Mary, can I ask, did you end up confronting him? No, because... No, no, no.

No, OK. Nothing got worse to hassle when you break and you're done, because a lot of it I was sort of really accepting, kind of understanding how deep it was. We'd broken up by then, and he was sort of really accepting, kind of understanding how deep it was. We'd broken up by then and he was out of the picture. And that was just bestest to leave it. Did you buy a new phone though? I have a new phone.

I have new Google accounts. I have new social media accounts. New passwords. Excellent. And then actually, to be honest, I'm not really on a lot of social media anymore because I'm still regaining my trust with technology. Well, sorry that happened to you, Mary,

and thank you for sharing with us. You are better off. Terrifying that that can happen, but something to watch out for. I mean, if something weird's going on with your phone. Well, it is, yeah. Have a look at your apps in the background. There'll be places that can tell you too.

Absolutely. If you go to a proper IT specialist, they'll be able to tell you if you are worried about that sort of thing. Totally. Brian Clint from iHeartRadio. This is The Latest. Live from LA with Dean McCarthy.

Dean's on the show with us. Dean, did Kelly Rowland have to get financially bailed out by Beyonce, is the story today? Yes, that is the story today. So Kelly Rowland has actually confessed that she almost went bankrupt because of lavish spending. So, you know, like they became, when they were 17, they became really famous.

By the time she was 20, they were really, really famous multimillionaires. And she's confessed that she blew it all. This is not a rare thing, by the way. It sounds unbelievable, but it's really not that unbelievable because they only get a certain amount, you know, the manager and the agent and everything. And then you've got these big houses and everything costs, and then eventually you're not touring, so who's going to put the bill? The rumor is, she even says in the interview,

she asked her best friend what to do, which translation, Beyonce, girl, can I please have a little bit of money? So apparently she lent her a couple of mil. What? But if you're Beyonce and you're a billionaire, what's a couple of mil? She lent her a couple of mil. I find this all so hard to believe. Like Kelly Rowland, a part of one of the most successful girl groups like ever.

Yeah. And she spent all of the money. And she had her own solo career that did really well. But this is the issue. When celebrities set up a lifestyle that costs money to achieve but then costs money to maintain as well, which is why I worry about Drake with his 747. Like, yeah, you're rich now, Drake,

but do you know how much it costs to keep a 747 in operation? That's why I don't buy a Volkswagen and I stick to the Mitsubishi. Because the services... I love how you're worried about Drake. Don't worry, he'll be fine. Well, you say that, Dean, but imagine what people were saying about Destiny's Child in the 2000s. They'll be like, oh, he'll be fine. Well, you say that, Dean, but imagine what people were saying about Destiny's Child in the 2000s.

They'll be like, oh, they'll be fine. No, I don't know if they had a plane. Everyone seems to have a plane these days. Yeah. Just, yeah, look. Just call it on the plane. It's a good time to buy a plane. I hear there's a lot of planes going cheap.

You can grab some of the Qantas ones that they're parking up in the desert. Air New Zealand's got a couple of planes they're not using at the moment. Careful now. You could get a whole cabin crew at minimum wage at the moment and that's no offence. I'm just saying. I am distancing myself. I'm just saying the aviation industry is struggling and

Bree and Clint, the number one show for aviation news, stands with you in solidarity. I'm sure we won't be getting anything after that. That's the latest with our Hollywood correspondent Dean McCarthy. He's live out of Los Angeles. Brianne Clint. Brianne Clint.

A little bit of a controversial inbox I saw over the weekend, and I'm going to read it out, and I'd love people's opinions on this and your opinion as well, Clint. Right. So this is from a guy, and he's sent this DM and it says, I'm a part of a blended family. My partner Sarah and I both have two kids from previous marriages and we have one child together.

Sarah loves birthdays and parties and celebrating any little event but I've noticed she goes all out for her kids and our kid that we have together but tends to slip a little bit when it comes Ooh. two children. I know her boy's birthday party is coming up and I've told her I won't be attending or doing anything for it. Am I the jerk for not attending my stepson's birthday? Oh, yes. Yeah. Yes.

This is hectic, isn't it? You don't fight fire with fire in this situation. Or as they say, two wrongs don't make a right. Also, we don't know all the details. She could be not putting as much effort into your kid's birthday because she doesn't want to step on the biological mother's toes.

And be seen to be like swooping in there and trying to replace her. And yes, it is your responsibility to do more for your kid because they're your kid. Because then it's also a better argument with the biological mum because it's like, well, they're our kids. Because then it's also a bit of argument with the biological mum because it's like, well, they're our kids. There'll be so many interpersonal politics in a blended family

because there's so many people involved. There's the kids and then there's outside parents and the inside parents and then from the outside parents there's probably step-parents on that side as well. But yeah, you don't, on the face of it, you don't sort this situation out by boycotting the kid's birthday because that's just punishing the kid. Like to me, like obviously I can't comment.

I'm not married. I don't have kids. But it seems like there's a deeper rooted issue within the relationship. Yeah. If you can't communicate, you know, these kind of things. Obviously he said he's talked to her about it and she's... Also, because you said that she said to him, you need to step up and do more for your kid's birthday.

Maybe... Because, again, we don't know and I don't mean to make this guy out to be the bad guy. Yeah. But is he just going, oh, there's a birthday coming up, she'll sort everything out. You need to do it. And so she's going, all right, well, I'll sort...

Which, of course, she needs to, like... I'll sort out my kid's birthday for us. She should look at it as all of their kids. And I'll sort out our kid's birthday for us. But she's doing all of the kids. Yeah, exactly. And then there's one which is just yours originally. Well maybe you could step up and do

this one. Maybe that's where she's coming from. Maybe she just wants him to do some stuff. Yeah, you can text us, 9696. Bree and Clint. New Zealand's, or one of New Zealand's biggest news outlets has announced it will be quitting Facebook in a trial inspired by Principal.

Oh, okay. Yeah, because, I mean, this is something that's actually started to take off on a wider boycott of Facebook around the world. Brands like Coke, I also believe North Face. Starbucks. Unilever. Yeah.

Have all said that they're going to boycott Facebook. Yeah. Because they believe Facebook is not adequately handling the spread of hate speech and misinformation on its platform, and they've decided, no, we're not going to use you anymore. Yeah. We're out. It's a pretty big deal for a news outlet to leave Facebook

because that's sort of how news gets shared now. And not only a news website, but a news website that has 953,000 people following it on Facebook. Yeah, right. It's a lot. Making a stand. Yeah.

Yeah, big. But it would take, for people to be able to leave Facebook in 2020, like everyone would have to leave. Because at the moment it's the main marketplace for all of these things. And to survive, well, people think to survive as a brand, you've got to be on Facebook, right? Yeah, it's like, what, 2.5 billion accounts or something? It's a lot.

It's a lot of people. Yeah, it's that place. I mean, you could always go and post on your Google Circles account. Cool. It is an interesting time. Start up your Tumblr again. Because Facebook owns Instagram as well. So if you're not doing Facebook, you're not doing Instagram.

You can't have either. You can't pick one. You have to leave both. Both. But it is an interesting time like if there is that much negativity towards Facebook, is now the right time for another social media platform to start? Because no one's been

able to because Facebook's so big. Well, I feel like if someone had the idea, they would have already started it. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Maybe I have. Maybe I have. Maybe I have. Have you had the idea? Maybe.

But I've been saying this for a long time. I'm not ready to go to market yet. Okay, right. So just keep it quiet then. I've been saying this for a long time, like, though, I think Mark Zuckerberg and his team have really missed the boat on a lot of different things where they should have been monitoring and doing certain things on their platform.

Yeah. And that's why, I mean, we've seen all these horrible things happen in the last couple of years. Well, they're getting in trouble now too because they won't censor any fake news that Donald Trump puts out. And so they won't. They'll go, it's free speech. He's a president.

If he says it, we have to publish it. But they're going, but it's wrong. You can't. It's wrong. We're living in an age of disinformation and 5G. It's literally the wrong information. You can't do that. So yeah, interesting time. It would be a big shift for Facebook to

leave our daily life though because even if you don't go on there every day, like if you're having a party, that's where you share the invite. It's where you share the invite. It's where you put your photos. It just is where you put your photos. The modern day

photo book. Like my mum has all these photo books at home where she put all of our kids' photos and that. We put them on Facebook. And I was going to get a photo printer but do you know how much photo paper costs? It's a lot. Far out. It's expensive. Yeah, right. And I was going to get a photo printer, but do you know how much photo paper costs? It's a lot. Far out. It's expensive.

Yeah, right. But I do like what's behind it and what's behind this is that they need to be stricter on stuff because people are losing their lives and people are reading stuff that they need to monitor these things. Yeah, it's gotten too big. Exactly. So there needs to be rules put in place.

Because apparently there's only like a few. Because a lot of good stuff happens from social media as well. A lot of really good stuff. You know, but only a few thousand people are actually reviewing, you know, when someone, when you flag something on Facebook. Yeah. Where you're like, oh, this is hate speech or this is whatever. Only a few thousand people are like monitoring.

Get some robots. Yeah. Well, I don't know if robots are the answer. No, get some robots. But this might be a really good movement towards, you know, it being betterly managed. Is it better? Betterly?

Better? Manage better. Manage better. There you go. Is there anyone out there who doesn't have any social media? Ever. Yeah, at all. Yeah.

Oh, well, okay. Anyone listening to us at the moment and you go, the radio is my social media. I've got my phone. You can text people and call people. But you've got no Instagram, no Facebook, no TikTok, no Snapchat, no Tumblr, no

what else? I mean, you might have a LinkedIn for work. We'll let you have LinkedIn. We'll let you have LinkedIn. But do you essentially have no social media? Maybe you used to have it and you deleted it all and you're off and you're clean. Maybe you've never had it. Can we talk to some of those people this afternoon?

Yeah, how many years clean are you from social media? And what's life like? Yeah. Are you happy? Are you happier than us? Do you have more free time? I'd love to talk to them. 0800DARLSZM.

Call us and tell us. Or you can text us as well on 9696. Do you have absolutely no social media? You could have had it in the past and gotten rid of it, but right now, you have none. Call us now. Bree and Clint. The revolution is here, Clint.

Shotgun being Katniss. People are starting to boycott Facebook. Some big brands are jumping on the bandwagon. Coca-Cola, Ford, North Face, Unilever. And now, New Zealand's own stuff. Yeah. It's saying, no, for now, we're – As a trial.

Yeah, for a trial. I read about a leaked email that's come out of Facebook where Zuckerberg has said that, don't worry, they'll all come crawling back. Yeah. Just a party. They'll come crawling back. Just find Zuckerberg a bit slimy and sleazy.

Oh, yeah. Like, I just think he's a bit dodgy. Do you follow him on Instagram? No. Right. He does the weirdest selfies. Yeah, I bet. He's a weird dude.

Zuckbot. We want to know, though, if the boycott is on, are you ahead of the curve? Have you got no social media whatsoever? Maybe you've never had it. Maybe you ditched it a few years ago and you've never looked back. Whatever reason we want to know. You've cleared the slate. Let's start with Fraser, who's new to having no social media. Hi, Fraser. Hi, Fraser. Oh, hello. How long have you not had social media for?

About three months. Okay. And that's everything? Sorry? And that's everything? Yeah, it is everything, yeah. No Instagram, no nothing. Why did you get rid of your social media? Well, actually, I had a really nice phone, but it fell off the roof while I was working, and it got destroyed.

Yeah. So I purchased a cheaper phone, and it actually doesn't have any app capabilities. Yeah. So I've had to go without. Right, you went cold turkey because you had to. So your pages are still there, you just can't look at them. Exactly, yeah, exactly. So Fraser, technically not like your own decision,

but something that has been decided for you. Is life better? Three months in, is life better without social media? Well, I wake up and there's no controversial topics to look at. I would like that. You know, it's kind of nice. You know,

I just take day by day. More carefree, Fraser. Yeah. Yeah, exactly, yeah. I like it. One less drama in your life. Phoebe, you ditched your social media

during lockdown. Yeah, I actually, I ditched it probably actually in February. So it's probably been about six months. Okay. Six months without it

in total, yeah. And Phoebe, can I ask, how old are you? I'm 32 in November. So it's probably been about six months. Okay. Six months without it in total, yeah. And Phoebe, can I ask, how old are you? I'm 32 in November. Perfect. So around our age, Clint. And why did you do it? What made you decide that? I did spend a lot of time on there

and like Fraser said, I'd get into the controversial discussions and debates, you know. That sucked in. And these posts and these posts. Do you feel like you're missing out on anything though? Like if your friends and this post. Do you feel like you're missing out on anything though? Like if your friends are doing something, do you feel like you're missing invites or anything like that?

Not really, because I just think that's the problem is we all live in each other's pockets and each other's lives. It's just a big forum for everyone to kind of see how we live and... Yeah, right. Do you think, Phoebe, you're always looking or like striving to what other people are doing because of social media

and you're not concentrating on yourself? Oh, 100%. Like, you scroll down and you're kind of going, oh, you know, she's all that and their house is amazing and this. Yeah. I want this because she's got it. Constantly keeping up with, yeah, right. You need to focus more on yourself, I guess,

when you don't have that comparison to make or, yeah. Fair enough. Well, yeah, but where does Phoebe put a fire selfie when she takes one, you know? Yeah, I know. Does she just make it her own phone background? She can send it to her friends, text message. Let's go to Tony finally.

Tony, hi. Hi, Tony. Hi. You've never had social media. No, I haven't. Wow, Tony. Okay. Why not?

Are you morally opposed to it or there's just nothing there for you? I just don't think it's making the world a better place. Yeah. I think it does create envy and unhappiness and I think it tends to make people feel inadequate because they look at other people's lives but it's a carefully edited version of other people's lives.

That's definitely true. It's a highlight reel. I've got an app for editing my highlights. Yeah. And are you happy? Yes. Right, okay. Yes. And are you happy? Yes. Right. Okay.

Yes, and I'm happy when I go home and I shut the door and the world is outside the door and I don't bring the world home into my home with me. That's interesting. Tony, if you had to pick one though, which one would you go for? Which one what? If you had to get one, if you had to get one of the apps,

I'd recommend TikTok because you don't have to do anything. You can just watch other people's videos. Although apparently it's a big data harvesting app for Beijing. Yeah, just don't get any Tony. No, I don't get any of those. Just steer clear I think, Tony. Tony's caught life. This is quite inspirational actually. I mean, I'm not going to get rid

of my apps. I'm horrifically addicted and I love my social media. But you know, for you guys, I mean, nam'm not going to get rid of my apps. I'm horrifically addicted and I love my social media. But you know, for you guys, I mean, namaste guys. What a wonderful outcome. I mean, you're like, not for me, but you guys listening should do it. I found out

some very interesting information. Did you? Some very, very funny information. Okay. Why are you saying it like that? You don't know what's about to happen. No, I don't know what's about to happen.

But I'm very excited for this. So I need to first remind you of, of course, we all know the Backstreet Boys. Yes. Right? Do you remember this song from the Backstreet Boys. No, I don't know this one from the Backstreet Boys. It's called The Call. I think it was a part of their comeback.

But don't quote me on that. I skipped that album. But that doesn't matter. As long as you can recognise, you know, that's the song we're talking about right now. I saw that AJ, which is obviously one of the Backstreet Boys, he was talking on TikTok about when they were recording that song. Yeah. And something that went down when they were recording.

Take a listen. We were making the song The Call. We were all in the studio recording our parts. Howie was in the vocal booth. He was singing his harmony, his ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, literally Howie broke wind right in key, right on the beat. And Max Martin decided it was too good to press delete. So he literally put it in the song. It is mixed in musically as either a bass sound or a synth sound, but Howie's Gas

is a musical piece of genius. Disgusting, Backstreet Boys. Disgusting. Can't make this stuff up. And that was the whole TikTok. They didn't even have an example of it, so I thought... Well, they didn't even play you the fart in the song. No, so I

thought I need to go do some digging. Right. I need to find this and I need to see, you know, if we can actually hear it. Oh, let me guess. You've found it. No, we actually have found the part of the song. I don't think you can hear anything, but we'll play it anyway. You take a listen to see if

you can hear anything. Did you hear it? I think I might have heard it. Did you? Yeah, right. It was the last one, right? Well, I think. Do you think it was the last one?

I think you can slightly hear something, but that's when it alerted me to the fact of other Backstreet Boys songs. Right, okay. Yeah, so this is crazy. Take a listen to the very popular Backstreet Boys song, I Want It That Way. I want it that way. Tell me why it ain't nothing but a morning. Wow.

Might have slipped past you. How have I never heard that? I've listened to this so many times, how have I never heard that? I've listened to this so many times how have I never heard that? Crazy how you miss it, right? I know. And it was there hiding in plain sight

the whole time. I thought surely it can't be in another one of their songs. What about the most popular song ever from the Backstreet Boys

Everybody. Yeah, so that one's more subtle, isn't it? That was earlier in their career Weird, because that was the first CD I ever bought That album there And to this point I'd never heard it I think now that I think about it Made them stand out Keeping up to date with the news Just became a little easier As at Herald's new podcast Made them stand out. down what you need to know on the biggest news stories of the day listen to the front page at

nzherald.co.nz slash podcasts and follow us on iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcasts we need to talk um instagram etiquette for a second because someone in this team has been made a fool of and is the victim of, we believe, poor Instagram etiquette. Okay? I don't know how much I want to get involved in this. Also, I didn't realise how much you were involved in it until today. Because you're part of it. You're part of the problem. I'm not part of the problem.

I was a pawn in this selfish game. You were instrumental. You were instrumental. You were instrumental. I knew nothing of the sort. Let's bring the victim on. His name is Producer Ben. Producer Ben, good afternoon. G'day, guys.

Recently, Otherwise known as Thumb. Otherwise, wow, in this picture, he has been referred to a lot of things. Yeah. But you were the victim of There's not even a word for this But there needs to be a word

Someone putting up a post where they looked good And you didn't I didn't look great in the photo That is true It's not one of your best photos It's one of your worst Yeah, that's true I say this lovingly as a friend who I respect

And I value as being part of my life. It's one of the worst photos of you I've ever seen. I'm not great at photos anyway. You do take a nice photo, but when I saw this photo, I was like, what happened? So Ben's wonderful girlfriend, who we also love, put a picture on her Instagram of you two. Couple photo. Beautiful idea. She looks like an angel.

You haven't posted much with her lately. She actually looks in the photo like there is a ray of sunlight coming down from heaven. She had the good lighting landing on her face. I might post it. She looks chiselled. She looks stunning. Yeah. And so I believe she's gone, love this for me,

posted on her page, and hasn't bothered to look at the fact that Ben in the picture looks like he's melting. He looks like a thumb. I had had a few lemonades that night and Bree took that photo and I believe Bree was like, that's a great photo, post it. Really? What are you trying to do to me?

I found out today, I didn't know until today that you were the person who took this shocking photo of Ben. All I did was help some friends out who asked me to take the photo. I didn't make you look like that. Did you encourage Ben's girlfriend to put that photo up? No, I don't believe she ever asked my opinion. Everyone knows the pain of when you look great in a photo, but someone else in the picture.

Yeah, but you couldn't crop them out. It's a hard crop. It'd be weird to crop one person out of a couple photo. Would you have cared if we cropped you out? I don't know what the photo looks like anymore because I can't see it because I reported it. That's right. I was going to bring it up on the screen

and I was like, I can't because I can't see it because I've reported it. Oh, I can still see it. We can see it. Yeah, true. Can we post the photo to our Instagram story? I'll have to check. And we'll just do a poll.

Did Ben's girlfriend do him dirty? Okay, well, let's not put that as a poll. That could mean something very different. No, people know what that means. All right, all right. Oh, no, wait. Oh, I found it. Yeah, you've got the picture there.

Don't laugh. And don't do anything with it because it's on a private account. Yeah. But definitely screenshot it now because there's a chance that she'll take it down. Screenshot the picture. Okay. So we've got it. I've got the picture.

So, yeah. She did you so dirty. She did you dirty, bro. Don't worry. It's happened to me many times. I want to share this picture so bad. I'll ask. But it's an important conversation to have with your friends, right?

You've all got to have sign-off on the post before it goes up. Can you stop laughing? Sorry. It's just funny because it's not me. Again, though, she looks fantastic. She looks great. Bree and Clint. Oh, my God.

I heard she bought all her followers. She would. She's such a bitch. It's time for Brie and Clint's Instafame game. It's the game where we guess how many followers famous people have on Instagram. Normally, it's just you versus me, and no one wins anything. But we thought, no, enough is enough. Yeah, let's bring some people on.

We'll play for them, and they could win some mobile fuel. Kayla got through first. Hi, Kayla. thought, no, enough is enough. Yeah, let's bring some people on. We'll play for them and they could win some mobile fuel. Kayla got through first. Hi, Kayla. Hi, Kayla. Hi. Who's your, which horse are you putting your money on? Pick the winner of the Insta Fame game now and if you get it right, you get free mobile fuel.

I'm going to go for you, Clint. Okay, I appreciate it. TJ, you've got me. Let's do this thing. All right, awesome. All right. All right, I guess All right. All right. I guess I'll take her.

Producer Ben runs the Insta Fame Game. Producer Ben, who's the first celebrity we're playing with? The first celebrity today for the Insta Fame Game is Sia. Sia. What's Sia music? She adopted two 18-year-olds last year, and one of them just had two kids. She adopted two 18-year-olds? Yeah, two 18-year-olds.

So she's a grandma. Yeah, she's a grandma now. How many Instagram followers does Grandma Sia have? Clint, you've put 3.5 million. And Bree, you've put, is it 19 million? Yeah.

Yeah, 19 million. Sia has 5.7 million. How many do the 18-year-olds have? One has 50,000 and the other has 45. Wow, okay, interesting. That's definitely not true. Such a lie. The second person is...

Damn, they could do some influencing. I know. The second person is Chris Hemsworth. Oh, interesting story about him this week, right? Yeah, he is going to be playing the Hulk Holden. Hulk. Hulk. Yeah, he's beefing up.

Hulk Hogan. Hogan. In the Netflix show. Yeah, that's a big buff up. Okay. 29 million for Clint. And Bree, for Chris, you've put 69 million. Nice.

Chris has 43.1 million. He reckons he's going to double in size, Chris Hemsworth, to play Hulk Hogan. Oh, was Hulk Hogan that big? But Chris must be quite lean at the moment. He is quite lean, yeah, usually. And Hulk Hogan was that different kind of 80s muscly where you're taking heaps of creatine

and you're holding on to heaps of water and probably doing heaps of drugs as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, roids. Yeah, roids. Apparently, allegedly. Yeah. The third person for the Instafame game is, and we just talked about

these guys, the Backstreet Boys. Oh. How many Instagram followers do the Backstreet Boys have? In their song, The Call, they have a fart. I reckon they would have lost a few after Brie revealed that fart news just before. 20 minutes ago. The Backstreet Boys.

Clint, you've put 1.1 million. Bree, you've put 7 million. The Backstreet Boys have 2.6 million. Oh, Bree. All right, 2-1 to me. I can take this game here. Okay. Tom Cruise.

How many Instagram followers does Tom Cruise have? I've never been on his Instagram in my life. He's just been given the green light to make another mission impossible. He's been allowed out. How many does he want to make? This mission is sounding more and more possible with every movie. He's been allowed out with COVID. That's the one he's going to space for, right?

He's going to shoot it in outer space. Don't take COVID-19 to space. It's COVID-19 in Rarotonga. They're the two COVID-free places. Bree, for Tom Cruise, you've put $12 million. And Clint, you have put $7 million. Tom Cruise has $4.8 million. Damn it.

We'll have the game to Clint and Kayla. Kayla, congrats. You've won some free mobile fuel. Yay. Enjoy that, Kayla. Are you looking forward to the new Mission Impossible movie? Sorry. Yeah, same.

Free and Clint. Free and Clint. Where do you meet someone these days? Apart from dating apps and bars and friends, exes,

where do you meet someone? RSVP. RSVP? That's what they say. What's that? It's where you meet people. RSVP? Yeah,P? That's what they say. What's that? It's where you meet people. RSVP? Yeah, it's an internet dating website. Is it? Yeah. Oh God, you do know stuff about this. I think that's what their motto is. It's where you meet people. Well,

where's the one that Lady Gaga used to promote? Did she promote one? Yeah. Plenty more fish. Plenty of fish. You've really been out of the game for a long time. Well, I've never been on a dating site. Plenty of fish. Plenty of fish. Yeah. Right. That's essentially like Tinder. So let's... Did she promote that?

Yeah, it was in some of her music videos. Was it? Yeah. On the Beats by Dre laptops. She was doing a lot of influencing before influencing was a thing. Anyway, a friend of mine who is single, I was talking to him last night, and he said that he thinks he may have found somewhere to meet somebody. Oh, like a new kind of hangout.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, hangout? Yeah, it's a venue and it's an occasion. Okay. And he said it to me and we laughed because we don't know if it's that good. But maybe it is. Maybe it is.

And maybe you have to put yourself out there at these things to be able to meet somebody. Well, as your friend who's a woman, I feel like you need my advice on this. Because I will know where the women are. Okay. My friend is not looking for women. Right. So not me then. No. No. Well, you wouldn't know either. No, I wouldn't

know either. But, I mean, relationships in general, like, it could be a thing. Well, so it could be just for like universal. Yeah. Could just be universal for everyone. Yeah. He said he walked past the library where there

was a chess club happening. And he's wondering if it could be a good place to meet smart, sophisticated, like-minded people who are looking for a relationship. So you're telling me not only is the chess club, but it's at the library. Yeah. Yeah, I told you it was a bit out of the box.

I told you it wasn't a bar or a dating app. So you're welcome to weigh in. Do you think that that has the potential for a romantic connection? I mean, I'm not here to judge. You could meet the love of your life at the chess club, which is located at the library. Yep.

I just don't see it. Right, okay. Not for the particular... And why? Well, if we're talking about your mate who's obviously gay, looking for other gay men, I can't imagine there'd be a ton of them at the chess club at the library. Well, how do you know? Have you been?

I mean, I've got a ton of gay friends. Where are they? They're all at Family Bar. Right. But like I said, we're trying not to do bars or dating apps. We're trying to find somewhere else, a different setting. They're very fancy. Yeah.

They hang out at all the cool places like Markets on a Sunday. Oh, delightful. That's where I'd be looking. Yeah. I'd also look at dog parks. You both reach for the same freshly baked croissant? Yes. And your eyes meet?

Very, very trendy. I'd go to the dog park. Yeah. Dog park's a good spot. Yeah. Especially if you like dogs and if you have a dog, perfect spot to meet someone. Any kind of icebreaker like that would be gold, yeah.

I think also – He doesn't have a dog. Oh, okay. That's okay. Maybe he can inherit a dog. Pretend he's lost his dog. I've done that before. Pretend his dog recently passed away and he just wants to be around other dogs.

No, that's not a good idea. No, don't start the relationship on a lie. What about like a mattress warehouse? Because if you meet someone mattress shopping, you can tell a lot by a person about what type of mattress they're going to buy. You can also see what they look like horizontal because you can go, well, let's just try this mattress out. No funny business.

Yeah. But let me just see your side profile. That's kind of cute. And I think one of the best places to meet someone that's not a bar or club is the butchers. Why? A lot of fresh meat. Total meat market I've heard.

Yeah, right. Good. There's some okay ideas in there and some stupid ideas. There's actually some good ideas in there. Let's crowdsource it though because you're not currently dating. No, I'm out of the game. I'm out of the game. Recently-ish, out of the game. Wife and kids. Recently-ish?

That's a stretch. But what are the secrets these days? Maybe you've got a hot tip for where you meet. And this is open to people of any persuasion. I just want to know, where do you meet someone these days that is in a bar or a dating app? Or a dating app. You know where my friend met someone?

Where? Playing Pokemon Go. Oh, out in public. Yeah. Yeah, but we're not Pokemon Going. Bummed into them. We're not Pokemon Going anymore. They're both looking for a Pikachu.

Yeah. This was recently. If you find one of the three people still playing Pokemon Go. It's meant to be. Well, the good news is I'm pretty sure they're single. Clint! Oh, 800-DIAL-ZM or text us to 9696. news is I'm pretty sure they're single. Clint! 0800 dial ZM or text us to 9696.

Maybe this place worked for you recently. Where's the best spot? What's the best place to meet someone in 2020? We need addresses. Alright? Yeah, we need details. Bree and Clint. Where do you meet someone in 2020? If you're single and looking for love,

where on earth do you go to meet someone that isn't a bar or a dating app? You know what's a good idea? Yeah. Go to the movies. Yeah. And just walk in, see someone you like, and just pretend like you've been seated there next to them. Just plonk down next to them.

Yeah. Empty theatre. Yeah. And you're like, oh, it must be fate. Sorry, this is the ticket they sold me. Movies suck, though, because you can't talk. That is true. They're always an awkward date.

My friend is wondering, you've poo-pooed it, but that's fine, whether the chess club at the local library could be a good way to meet somebody. I mean, it depends on him. If he's into, you know, real smart, intelligent, you know, guys that look like more slow-paced. A lot of eye contact, a lot of one-on-one eye contact in that situation. There could be some good talent there. But chess can go on for a long time.

This is what I warned him about. If you get stuck with someone who you're definitely not into and you find that out after your first move, chess can go on for hours. Yeah. And you can't just leave. Yeah, it's awkward if they knock out all the pawns too. Yeah, right. You're just chasing.

Sarah, hi. Hi. So I met my significant other who's currently still my boyfriend at Scouts New Zealand. Oh, whoa. Did you? How old were you? Yeah. So we were volunteering and I was 17. Cute. Good. I'm glad he wasn't a Scout. So I mean that's a very, very specific one. But I guess you're saying volunteering for events and for organisations

can be a good way to meet like-minded people. Yeah. Because you're both charitable, I guess. You know? So that's a good option. That's a good idea. Nigel, hi. Hi, Nig.

Hello. Where did you meet your significant other? Oh, I did, and it was my best mate that met his significant other at a rugby game. I did think about this. Like spectating or playing? Spectating. Right. In like a super rugby game, like a big stadium game?

Oh, yeah, it was like, I think one of the matches at the Blitz World Cup. Oh, right. It must have been the All Blacks playing South Africa, I think. Nige, how did they connect? Because very loud in that stadium. They were literally just seated there by chance. Yeah, right. Okay, well, I guess you checked 50,000 people in a stadium.

There's got to be somewhere there that you're compatible with. You get a match. Cassidy, where do you meet people in 2020? My ex-partner, actually. Okay. I was walking in the rain and I didn't have an umbrella, and so I just saw someone with an umbrella and I went under their umbrella, and that's how I met.

Did that really happen? That's so cute. It really happened, yeah. Sharing an umbrella. Right. Yeah. That sounds like a movie. Okay. Yeah. Well, like a movie. Okay.

Yeah. Well, all right. I'm just going to go stand under random people's umbrellas tonight. None of these have been, yeah, you laugh. That's the thing. None of these are hugely practical. They're quite. You can't just be sitting inside and you see someone with an umbrella and go.

I'm going to try it. I'm in the market. I'm going to run out there and get under that umbrella right now. Jenny, hi. Hi. I met my now. Jenny, hi. Hi. I met my now husband on an aeroplane and we had our first date in the Kauru Lounge. I love these stories. Did you get seated next to each other on the plane?

Yeah, well, there was an empty seat between us, but we chatted over the empty seat. Right. And then what, you went to the Kauru Lounge on the return flight? No, we met on the domestic flight and discovered we were both travelling internationally on similar time flights. So he invited me in there for a wine and I couldn't resist. Oh, so you went in as his guest?

Yeah, that's it. No wonder, Jenny, you made friends. I would have done the same. Okay, so you were going reckon approach people on planes. I know. That's not helpful post-COVID either. Like no one's going on planes. Well, that's true.

Right. Because you can't really, yeah, no one's flying. I met a guy on a plane once. Yeah. And I really hit it off with him. Yeah. But I was quite young. I think I was 17.

He was 19. Yeah. And then this was before social media and I never knew what off with him. Yeah. But I was quite young. I think I was 17. He was 19. Yeah. And then this was before social media and I never knew what happened to him. Oh, and you never changed numbers? You never? No. Oh, that's sad. No, I think he gave me his number.

I lost it. Yeah, right. That sounds more believable. All right. Well, back to dating apps and trawling the bars, I guess. But, I mean, thank you for your love stories. No, we appreciate it. Bree and Clint.

Hey. It's my birthday. It's my birthday. Bree and Clint's Birthday Banger. All right, here we go. Birthday Banger for a Tuesday. We'll take your birthdays and we'll figure out what was number one on your 16th. Let's start with Kat.

Hi, Kat. Hi, Kat. How's it going? Good. How are you, mate? Good, good. I have to say quickly, my daughter Edabel loved her bum candle, by the way, so thanks, guys. Oh, lovely. Did you get one of

the limited edition infamous this candle smells like my bum candles? Yes, correct. Does it smell delicious? It did actually smell delicious, surprisingly. Excellent. Glad to hear that review. My name's on the candle. I had nothing to do with that. No, it was all Clint's idea. No, thanks.

He loved it. Purely for Brie. He endorses it. What's your birthday, Kat? My birthday is the 31st of May, 1985. All right, Kat. You were 16 in 2001 on the 31st of May, and this is your birthday banger.

Oh, damn. We've just took this song on for Friday Oaky last week. I love it, Kat. Do you love it? Is it a good birthday banger for you? Yeah, it's a good birthday banger. Thanks, guys. Yeah, no worries.

I think it's a top-notch one. Top shelf. Wait there. Let's go to Sinead. Hey, Sinead. Hi, Sinead. Hello. Hello.

How's things, Sinead? Yeah, really good How are you guys? Excellent not too bad Let's do your birthday banger What's your birthday? Okay you ready for it? 07 07 92

Wait Sinead Wait Sinead everything you say sounds like You're like mmhmm Everything sounds a little bit like It's her birthday today Oh it's your birthday today Happy birthday for today

Happy birthday Thank you Thank you. Thank you so much. Have you got a good gift or presents yet or not yet? Well, unfortunately, my partner and I are both shift workers, so we've moved our plans to the weekend. Oh. So we're going to have a birthday week.

Yeah, it's good. Birthday week. Yeah, birthday week. And weekend's way better. Okay, cool. Let's do your birthday banger. All right, so you were 16. What year did you say?

92. All right, so you were 16. What year did you say? 92. All right, you were 16 in 2008. And in 2008 on Today, this was number one. Oh, yes. Huge. You had Jordan Sparks in your life. Yeah. Damn, this song won too many times.

Yeah, right? She was American Idol, correct me if I American Idol. Yeah, I believe so. Correct me if I'm wrong. Yeah. And this song was massive. Dated Jason Derulo? Yes. For a long time, I think.

She was with Jason Derulo when he broke his neck. That's right, yeah. She stuck with him, and I think he might have... Chated on it. When he got better. Well, good one for you, Sinead, though. I like the song.

Yeah, wait there. Last birthday banger is for... Forrest. Hi, Forrest. How, Sinead, though. I like the song. Yeah, wait there. Last birthday banger is for Forrest. Hi, Forrest. How we doing? Good, mate. How are you? Not too bad. Excellent.

Let's do your birthday banger. What's your birthday? 2nd and 5th, 1981. All right. You were 16 in 1997 on the 2nd of May. And in the late 90s, this had a number one hit. I want to stand with you on a mountain. What did you say, Forrest?

Disappointing. Disappointing. I love Sauvage Garden. Can you not get behind a bit of Sauvage Garden, even when it's your own birthday banger? No. Oh, mate, you can't see the forest for the trees. I like it.

I like all of them. I'm out. I'm nominating anyone else but me. Okay, no, we'll take it. Yeah, which one? We're going to go for Lady Marmalade. Lady Marmalade. Okay.

That's a big song. But that No Air song, I haven't heard that for ages. We just did Lady Marmalade for Birthday Banger. I know, but we didn't hear the good version. No, we didn't hear the good version. I have to say Lady Marmalade is one of my all-time favourite songs. I'm going to vote for it. Okay, you're going to vote for that?

Yeah. I'm going to vote for No Air, which means we're going to go to a split vote. And for the first time, I reckon we throw the vote to our newest member of our team, producer Anastasia. So you can choose from any of those three songs. What is the song that's won birthday banger today? You can pick from any of the three. Could I please go for Savage Garden?

Oh, she's come out with the dark horse. My mum loves that song. No, I love it. She loves that song. You can. It's an incredible power that you wield as the deciding vote. So the man who didn't want, well done, producer Anastasia. We love it.

This is for Anastasia's mum as well. And also for the guy who didn't want it Well done, producer Anastasia. We love it. This is for Anastasia's mum as well. And also for the guy who didn't want it. Forrest, you've won birthday banger, mate. Yay. Oh, run, Forrest, run. Thanks, Dave. Brinkland, hit him. I'll be your dream, I'll be your wish

I'll be your fantasy I'll be your hope, I'll be your hope. I'll be your love. Be everything that you need. I love you more with every breath. Truly, madly, deeply do. I will be strong. I will be faithful. Cause I'm counting on a new beginning.

A reason for living. A deeper meaning, yeah I wanna stand with you on a mountain I wanna bathe with you in the sea I wanna lay like this forever Until the sky falls down on me And when the stars are shining brightly in the velvet sky I'll make a wish, send it to heaven, then make you want to cry

The tears of joy for all the pleasure in the certainty that we're surrounded by the comfort and protection of the highest powers in the hours that tears devour you I want to stand with you on a mountain. I want to bathe with you in the sea. I want to lay like this forever. Until the sky falls down on me Oh, can you see it, baby? You don't have to close your eyes

Just standing right before you All that you need will surely come I'll be your dream, I'll be your wish, I'll be your fantasy I'll be your hope, I'll be be your love be everything that you need i'll love you more with every breath truly madly deeply do i wanna stand with you on a mountain want to bathe with you in the sea. I want to bathe with you in the sea. I want to live like this forever. Until the sky falls down on me. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, To the world Bree and Clint, that's the winner of Birthday Banger on ZM today.

Four Forest, picked by our newest producer, producer Anastasia, after we went to stale, mate. Savage Gardens, Truly, Madly, Deeply. Here we go, age game. How old is lead singer of Savage Garden, Darren Hayes? He'll be 45, I believe. Lock in 45 for me. No, he ises. He'll be 45, I believe. Locking 45 for me. No, he is 48.

Oh, right. Okay, well, I'll definitely end as 40s. You know he's from Brizzy? Brizzy boy. Does he support the Broncos? I hope not this season. Just take it. Bree and Clint.

Did you know, well, that's fitting, that more than 36,000 people a year search for best indoor gardening songs? Right. Are they using our code word? Well, no. Oh, you're using our code word. I'm using the code word. I was like, damn, our indoor gardening code word is really caught on.

No, but you know what I mean. So what's the phrasing again? Just replacing the words? Best indoor gardening songs. Oh, yeah you know what I mean. So what's the phrasing again? Just replacing the words? Best indoor gardening songs. Oh, yeah. Yeah. On like Spotify or something. On streaming services.

Yeah. And a study. That's risky. Why? To dial up someone else's playlist for the bedroom because you could be, the first song could be good. You're like, all right, yeah,

let's get this thing going. Yeah, yeah, I'm liking this. And the next one could be real weird. And then the next one, it comes in with some Skrillex yeah you're like get in the mood and then you go bangarang you know hey i wouldn't mind bangarang um bit of a tempo change yeah right that song's quite fitting but it involved analyzing about 300 000 songs from playlists with um you know different titles like date night or let's get it on um indoor gardening playlists with, you know, different titles like Date Night or Let's Get It On,

Indoor Gardening Playlist, Netflix and Chill. So I took all these different playlists and it pretty much came up with the top 10 songs that are found on these types of playlists. Yeah, right. Helpful. Yeah. So I thought we could go through a few. Yes, please.

Let's kick it off with number nine on the list. Pony. I mean, cliche, but... It is good, though. It would still work, yeah. It still works. Yep. Especially if you had a cowboy hat in the bedroom.

Do you? No. No? No. How'd you get rid of it? What about spurs? I wore it out. Have some spurs? I wore it out. Have some spurs?

I've got a saddle. My dad has spurs. Right. Like real ones. Good for your mum. Don't talk about my mum like that. Number eight on the list was a bit of slow motion. Different tempo.

Who be this? Trey Songz. Oh, okay. Has Trey Songz ever written a song that wasn't meant for the bedroom? I don't think so. No, I don't think so either. I think that's his niche. It's where he makes his music.

Yeah, it's his pocket. What about The Weeknd makes an appearance at number seven. Listen, boy, I'll give you all I got. Give me all for this is a wicked game. The Weeknd is very... Sensual. Gardening. Isn't he?

Very gardening. Such a good looking bloke. And such a smooth, sexy voice, don't. Yeah, sultry. Yeah, right? I like that. Which is why, let's skip all the way to number three, and it's The Weeknd again.

Oh, cheers. Is this the Fifty Shades one? I think so, yeah. Yeah. Called Earned It. Yep. Coming in at number three of the top ten most streamed songs for bedroom activities. Gardening activities. Gardening activities.

Number two, also the weekend. At this stage, you should just put on the weekend. Yeah, you'd be pretty much at home safe. And you're good to go. Yeah. What do you think is number one? I want to sex you up. Uh, yeah.

Uh, yeah. I want to sex. No? Let's hope you're not singing it. I wanna sex you up. Yeah. Yeah. I wanna sex. No. Let's hope you're not singing it. No, it's this song from Jeremiah. Did you like what you sang? I could f*** you all the time. Do you know this song? No.

The number one. If I put this on. I could f*** you all the time. Okay, that's horrific This is terrible Who chose that part? There's a whole song I'm sure it says other stuff

Yeah true That's the chorus though No that's just No You said get the chorus I did not That sucks is number one I'm just gonna say

It does Where's the usher? It's no crowd pleaser Yeah Like no one in the Like play something we all know bro Where's the Beyonce? Beyonce's got some nice Well let's Yeah. Like, play something we all know, bro. Where's the Beyonce? Beyonce's got some nice soul tree songs.

Well, let's build our own list then. Let's build our own list. Stuff this list. Let's make our own list. We need your help. 0800-DIALS-ZM. We want your input. What is the top song on your playlist?

We're going to release this playlist. Yeah, we're going to. Let's put it on our Spotify, okay? That's interesting that people will be finding this playlist. Yeah. We'll call it Indoor Gardening. We'll be part of your thing. We'll call it Indoor Gardening.

Yes. Let's build the playlist together. 0800DALES.M. What is your top indoor gardening song? Or you can text us on 9696. Maybe it's this. And you're doing the TikTok moves at the same time. No, no, no.

You're very, very coordinated. No. Not good. Our list has been compiled, analysing over 300 songs from playlists as to which are the best songs for indoor gardening. The top ones played. If you're looking for a soundtrack to get you going,

what is it? We were quite disappointed with number one. Quite disappointed. Who was it by? It was by a guy named Jeremiah. I do know him, yeah. Yeah, I know him too. It's just... I can kind of see it.

I can see it, but is that the number one song? I wouldn't say it's the number one. So we're making our own playlist, okay? We're going rogue and we're going to make a playlist for the country. We're going to double the population in nine months with this playlist. Liam's here. Hey, Liam.

Hi, Liam. Hey, mate. How you doing? Good. Take us gardening, indoor gardening with you, mate. What is the song that sets the mood? Specs Bomb by Tom Jones. I love Tom Jones and I love this song, so I'm with you, Liam.

Liam, this is a high tempo song though. Like, there's a lot going on. You know, it depends how fast the gardening's going, you know? Yeah, good point. I think this is early when you first start gardening. Right. Yeah, then you can like, you know. Yeah, right.

Slow down afterwards. Bit of build up. Yep. Always good. Start fast and slow down as you go. Right, okay. Some texts coming in. Someone has suggested some Neo.

Again, like some artists have already identified, I think Neo only makes music for the bedroom. I think so too. Breakups in the bedroom. Someone said this song gets all the exotic shrubs. That's what it said. Sexy Love by Neo. Right, okay. Joe's here. Hey, Joe. Sexy love by Neo. Right, okay.

Jo's here. Hey, Jo. Hi, Jo. Hey. Hey, guys. What are you thinking, Jo? Take us to your gardening spot. So my gardening song at the moment is Jewel Leaper Physical.

Oh. I got you next to me. Jo, you should meet up with Liam because there's a lot of energy in these tracks. Early, early in the garden. This is like an aerobics course. Oh, I love it. Love it. Goes off.

Yeah, right. Okay. I love it, Joe. On you, Joe. Thank you. Talk to Jackson. Hi, Jackson. Hi, Jackson.

Hey, how are you? Good, thanks. Jackson, what's on your playlist at the top of the list for your gardening? Definitely has to be Or Nah by Ty Dole or something. I do like this song Have you had positive feedback about Ty Dolla Sign in the bedroom Jackson?

It was the first one as well It was what? It was the first time indoor gardening as well when that played Oh so it's got a special place

in your gardening heart. You've got good memories of it. Sandra. Hi, Sandra. Hi, Sandra. Hiya. What's at the top of your gardening list, Sandra? I'll Make Love To You, Boyz II Men.

This is definitely in the top ten. It's got to be. Very romantic. I love it. Yeah. I's got to be. Very romantic. I love it. Yeah. I'll listen to you giggling as well. Take you back, Sandra. All right, we're going to put that on our indoor gardening playlist

just after Ty Dolla Sign or Nah. We're mixing it up. Let's finish the playlist off with Laura. Hey, Laura. Hey, guys. How are you? Good. Thanks, Laura. What's finish the playlist off with Laura. Hey, Laura. Hey, guys. How are you? Good.

Thanks, Laura. What's at the top of your gardening playlist? Tempo by Lizzo. Oh. Oh, my God. Yeah, this is good. I got tempo. Laura, I am so in. All right.

How recently have you busted out this song, Laura? When was the last time it got a spin? I bust this song out when I'm in the car as well as when I'm doing a bit of indoor gardening. Damn, girl. That's an exciting ride home. I like that song and Rules by Doja Cat are my favourite at the moment. Rules by Doja Cat, right. There you go.

And In The Calm. This has been a fascinating look inside New Zealanders' bedroom. We really appreciate you. I mean, sorry, inside your gardening shed. Yeah, your garden. We appreciate you being honest with us. Keep all your tools. Bree and Clint.

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