ZM's Bree & Clint - ZM's Bree & Clint Podcast – March 18th 2019

Episode Date: March 18, 2019

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Kia ora everybody, Brianne Clint here. Welcome to the podcast. Today will be a different kind of show. If you subscribe, you might have heard on Friday where we put in just a little marker to say why there wouldn't be a show because of the terror attacks that took place in Christchurch. Today's show is very much the first show you would expect after that, right? Yeah, it's a very different show to anything probably you and i have ever done um and it was more about reflecting and bringing you some of the amazing stories that have come from this horrible tragedy talking to people who were there um and just sharing that love and support to the whole community hard show to put together if i'm speaking really honestly because um everybody

is still hurting but everybody is still hurting, but everybody is still reeling as well. Everyone's still figuring out how to cope. But at the same time, it's the hard bit is fine. It's our job to lift spirits, right? Yeah. As a show.

So we've tried to bring you stories of hope throughout the show today as well. Also, if you're listening, if you're one of the people who subscribe to this from overseas, this might give you even more of an idea what it feels like in New Zealand at the moment because it is a strange feeling. It's a really, really foreign feeling as a Kiwi in this country at the moment. This is something that the people of New Zealand have never had to deal with and this is the first time that a tragedy like this has taken place here in New Zealand.

Lots of interesting people on the show, including people in the media, people in the community and people of the Muslim faith as well. So here you go. Here's our podcast. Kia ora everybody. Bree and Clint here. Monday afternoon. How's everybody going? How are you going? This time on Friday we were just learning about things that were happening in Christchurch and trying to update you as much as we could. And over the weekend I think people have, you know, just started to really deal with what's happened.

It didn't hit me until Saturday night, personally. That Friday show that you and I did was the single hardest radio show I've ever had to do. And then you got off air and you're kind of just like still running off the adrenaline of the whole situation. And it wasn't until Saturday night I was sitting there on the couch and I just burst into tears. And I was just sitting there and

Lucy was cooking dinner and my wife and she was still talking away to me and she wondered why I wasn't replying and she came over she's like oh no it's finally hit you so it's going to hit different people at different times it still hasn't hit for some people I think what's happened yeah and I think you know everyone will deal with it in the way that they need to and I just want to let people know if you listen to our show every day or if you need someone to talk to, you're always welcome to call 0800DIALS at M. You're welcome to text 9696 at any time.

We're here for you just as much as you're there for us and that's what it's about. It's about coming together now to help grieve. Friday was all about an emergency and just getting through it. Today is about reflection. We are going to hear from a bunch of different perspectives around this tragedy. And by that, I mean,

we're going to have some representation from the Muslim community on the show today. We're going to have some strong voices from Christchurch on the show today. We're also going to try and have some stories of hope, some uplifting stories out of this because it is a very sad, very all-consuming event. And if you don't have hope in this,

then I think things can get really, really dark, really, really fast. So that's what we're going to do today. Including next, we're going to talk to a young man named Sohail Din. He is a representative for the auckland university muslim students association he's 19 years old we're going to get the perspective of a young person within the muslim community three days on from what is new zealand's darkest day he's going to be on the show with us to share his thoughts next. This is Ali Golding and close to me,

Bree and Clint. This is ZM. Even though we're ZM's Bree and Clint, the podcast. We're joined on the show this afternoon by Sohail Din. Now he's a representative for the University of Auckland Muslim Students Association. And the reason we're speaking with Sohail is because I think it's important

not just to get perspective from the Muslim community on the show this afternoon, but also from people, young people, people that are our age. So Sohail is because I think it's important not just to get perspective from the Muslim community on the show this afternoon, but also from people, young people, people that are our age. So, Sohail, good afternoon. Hello. Good afternoon. Thank you so much for speaking with us. Now you're 19 years old, you're not in Canterbury, but you are in Auckland and you're a part of the

Muslim community. So we wanted to check in with you first and foremost and say, how are you going? How are you feeling? Well, for me, I'm feeling okay, but the general atmosphere and stuff has been very different and in terms of how I feel on a personal level, I think the change in atmosphere has really shocked me and I very much do not know how to respond to a lot of the things that are going on. So Hal, when you say

change in atmosphere, can you give us some examples? I guess this is growing up in New Zealand. We obviously dealt with things like, you know, you know, casual racism things, but there was never a moment where I didn't feel unsafe as a Muslim person. Yeah. But, you know, after what happened on Friday, I think the general sentiment amongst the Muslim community was a real strong and unexpected sense of fear.

Do you feel that now, like three days later? I know it's not a long amount of time, but is there a sense of fear with you personally at the moment? Personally, yes, but I think the main thing is that after following what happened on Friday, the general reception from the New Zealand community has been, you know, I'm speechless of how supportive and appreciative New Zealanders are. And I'm truly grateful to be living in such a country where something like this can happen

and people are just willing to reach out and be supportive. Because we're a very small, the Muslim community is a very small community, especially amongst young people. And when this happened in the beginning, we were just so disheveled and lost. But after seeing all the responses coming in from friends and family and walking around and just seeing people who are willing to help, willing to be there for you, you know, it really alleviated a lot of the stress and pressure and, you know, fear that a lot of us Muslim people had.

What do you want to see happen from here? Obviously, there's a lot to happen as far as even just the funerals, the memorial services in the not-too-distant future. But what do you want to see change? If one good thing can come of this, what would you like it to be? I think the one good thing that I'd like to see come out of this is just everyone being a lot more supportive towards each other because I think this issue itself isn't just an issue

that Muslim people have to face. Obviously, the situation affected all of us as New Zealanders. And the sort of solidarity that we Muslims have, you know, experienced following this event, you know, I'd be appreciative if this sort of, if this same sort of energy and this support and this continues for, you know, all minority groups around, you know, New Zealand. Because at the end of the day, we all belong to different groups, ethnicities, ethnic backgrounds, gender, you know, all this. But, you know, all this. But,

you know, it'd be great if we were all united under the fact that we all live in New Zealand, we're all Kiwis. And it'd be great if we just had continued the same sort of the same level or even better solidarity that we have now. Just to be kinder to one another. And just maybe Sohail, like even in the midst of this, educating ourselves a little bit better on the different communities and the different ourselves a little bit better on the different communities and the different minorities to have a better understanding of just everyone. Exactly, yeah.

That would be, yeah, I could not ask for more because when we learn about each other, we find a lot of times that there's so many things that we have in common. Okay, so Hale, hey, I speak for everybody here at ZM and I think I can easily speak for everybody who listens to this station as well. We stand with you.

We're horrified by what happened last week and we're hoping for a better New Zealand for everybody at the end of this. So thank you very much for speaking with us. We're with you, Sohail. Thank you so much. That is Sohail Din. He is with the Auckland University Muslim Students Association.

There are some beautiful text messages coming through on the text University Muslim Students Association. Bree and Clint, the podcast. ZM. There are some beautiful text messages coming through on the text machine, and we are replying to as many of them as you can. If you need to share something this afternoon, that's what we're here for, and you can text us on 9696. At any time. It's amazing to see around the world the love and support and the outpouring of just messages from famous people.

Yeah, it's blown me away. I don't know about you, how far reaching this has gone. I guess it is a global event, but it's weird just being from little old New Zealand and seeing other people reflect on it as well. It's actually really humbling to see some of the people that have weighed in on this. Christine Aguilera, she tweeted this.

She said, the news about what happened in New Zealand is devastating, heartbreaking to the Muslim community in Christchurch and around the world. We are with you. We will keep fighting back with love. Drake actually stopped one of his concerts and he said this. I want you to know that when there's terrible things going on in the world, you know, we can still look around this room tonight and see something beautiful because we got people from all races, all places, all religions. And look, and we in here showing love tonight.

So I want to send my love to all the families that are affected. We're praying for you. And I want to spread more love just like this across the world. Paris, I'm proud of y'all tonight. I love y'all. Was that in Paris then? Yeah, he was in Paris performing. Right.

And stopped down the whole concert, just to say that. Kim Kardashian has weighed in on, obviously there's been talk about the gun laws here in New Zealand. Jacinda's come out with some strong words about what is going to happen in the future. And Kim Kay has said, just 24 hours after the Christchurch shooting, New Zealand banned semi-automatic guns. America take note. Why can't we elect officials that put public safety over gun manufacturers' profits? That is really interesting.

I mean, we haven't banned them yet. Jacinda is saying that a ban is possible. They're talking about it. I saw just before Trade Me have banned them. So up until now, and still you can actually buy guns on Trade Me, which I find bizarre in itself. Yeah, see, I didn't realise that. Trade Me have pulled down all

semi-automatic weapon sales from their website. Drax Project, the boys from Drax Project also posted this on their Instagram. To the people who did this, your empty ideology of hatred and prejudice will never win. You've only taught people to be even more thankful for diversity and decency than we have ever had before.

To our Muslim brothers and sisters, to the people of Christchurch, we love you and our hearts are breaking with you. Peace. Lovely from the boys from Drax. And Sam Neill also tweeted this. When you're in tears, it's difficult to express oneself as clearly as you would like.

There is so much more to be said. Today, we are mostly thinking about all those souls lost, weak with their families, and grieve with our beloved Muslim community. Yeah, beautiful words. And they keep coming. I saw the Sydney Opera House was lit up with a fern on it. The train station in Amsterdam had the New Zealand flag on it. So I think it means a lot.

It definitely means a lot to me as a New Zealander to see the rest of the world mourning with us as well. Let's go to Christchurch now and talk to a good friend of the show and broadcaster on our sister station, The Hits, Brodie Kane. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Hey, guys. I can just say that, well, yes, you haven't asked me a question,

but I'm just going to rip straight into it. Yeah, go on then. Well, it's been a really, I think for a lot of people down here today, a really weird day insofar as we had the horror and the trauma of Friday, the weekend wallowing around completely lost and hurt and broken and then that weird, very weird feeling of having to go back to work and in some ways try and I don't want to say normal because it's not normal at the moment,

but I think people are trying to figure out how to go about their business. So it's been a really tricky day, actually, and trying to figure out your sense of purpose, I guess. Yeah, this is the first day you guys had to get up and go back to real life since then. Have you been down and seen the big flower memorial that's going on? I went back there today and I was completely overwhelmed

in a, I guess, moving way in terms of that memorial today. There are I could not even estimate how many flowers and teddy bears and messages and flags and love hearts and aroha that is there right now. It's on a massive, massive scale.

It would be at some places two to three metres deep of flowers, and it's probably over 100 metres long, and there are people everywhere just spending time there talking crying hugging laugh you know it's just a it's a very very special place but also it's surreal because you've got that going on and then you've got a hundred meters of satellite trucks and the world's media in there as well. So it's a very surreal experience. As someone who grew up in Christchurch, Brodie, where do people from Christchurch go from here? How can you guys, I guess, repair or band together now in Christchurch?

Where can you go to from here? It's probably going to be more so what we're able to do, not today and not tomorrow, but in the weeks and months and actually years coming. And so I don't have the hard and fast answer, but I mean, I was thinking and I was talking to my mum on the phone yesterday and I was like, there must be at some point some sort of volunteering and stuff that we can do in the midterm once people are able to bury their loved ones and I talking and keep being there and being a presence and sticking strong with the messages that we want in terms of the gun laws. And then we, I guess, as I say, as we move into that next phase, then we have to, I guess, seek guidance from within the Muslim community

and ask how we can help further on. Yeah, what they want. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, bizarre time, and we're trying to check in with as many people in Canterbury, of Canterbury, as we can. So, Brodie Kane, thank you for talking to us today. We appreciate it.

Thank you, and thank you to everyone around New Zealand as well for all your messages and the amazing outpouring of love and support. As horrific as this time is, all your messages and the amazing outpouring of love and support. As horrific as this time is, I feel really proud of what we're all doing. So thank you up there as well. Yeah, good message.

Thanks, Brodie. No worries, team. Today, trying to bring you some of the stories of hope to come out of New Zealand over the last three days and some of the stories of human kindness as well, including one that I saw this morning. Did you know that people in Christchurch, because obviously the police are working around the clock at the moment and other emergency services as well,

people in Christchurch are bringing out lots and lots of home baking for the police. That's amazing. And you know how they've got like the booze bus where they would normally breath test people, take them off to the side of the road and they take you in there to do your evidentiary test afterwards.

That bus is acting as a bit of a hub for some of the police around the quarter at the moment. And it's serving as like a tea room where they've got all the home baking that people have brought down. Having a bit of a tea and bicky. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like a full cake stand.

Apparently there is so, they're not saying stop bringing it. I think the message is please bring more. More. Keep it coming. We keep wanting more, yeah. Yeah, but it's like this cafeteria, tea rooms of homemade baking that people are bringing down to the police, which is awesome,

which is a really nice story to come out of this. So cool. And there's so many amazing stories that are coming to light over the last couple of days. One of the stories that we found actually was from a florist who lives in Christchurch. Her name's Ginny Fagan and she works at Charmed Flowers in Wigram in Christchurch. And she put the call out. She said she wanted to do something.

She felt like as a florist that flowers, you know, bring a bit of light to the situation. She wanted to create tributes to all 50 victims. And she knew that she couldn't do it by herself. And she put a call out on social media. And within hours, people turned up. This is her talking about it. Everybody loves flowers. And I guess flowers transcend all languages.

So I thought I want to be able to create some tributes for these people. 50 bouquets for 50 lives lost. She couldn't do it alone. So she put out a call on social media. Within two hours, I had over 60 people here and I had another 200 people messaging me saying, I want to help, what can I do? Everybody felt the same as me.

Quite overwhelming when you see it and you see this army of people in action creating these things for strangers who have passed away because of it, right? I think it symbolises something more. It symbolises that, you know, this pure act of hatred and terror that this person tried to bring upon to the world. Instead of dividing us,

which is what they wanted, it's actually bringing people closer together. Isn't that the most amazing bit? And doesn't that just fly in the face of everything that coward tried to prove, that people are banding together? Like this florist is, she has gone out of her way to find how to appropriately do a tribute for the families, the Muslim families of this. There's even a message to them in Arabic on all the bouquets.

And that's a foreign culture to these people before this event and not anymore, right? And I mean, that's such a great message. Yeah, and we are enjoying those messages and we are trying to bring you as many of them as possible this afternoon. ZM Spree in Clint, the podcast. The boys shared a message on their Instagram over the weekend. The people who did this,

your empty ideology of hatred and prejudice will never win. You've only taught people to be even more thankful for diversity and decency than we have ever had before. To our Muslim brothers and sisters, to the people of Christchurch, we love you and our hearts are breaking with you. It's a good message from the Drax Project, guys. What we're doing today is trying to bring you some stories of hope. It's the end of what is the first day back in routine for everybody in New Zealand and especially Canterbury. So you're probably feeling really exhausted at the moment on your way home from this.

So we're just bringing you maybe some lighter stories today too. Yeah, there's this one story that has gotten a lot of attention out of Australia and it's a bit of a controversial one because it's about an Aussie senator. His name's Fraser Anning. I think that's how you pronounce his name. And, I mean, he's copped a lot of stuff over the last three days for stuff he has put out there off the back of this Christchurch shooting.

Yeah. So, essentially, he wrote after the shooting that he believed Islamic immigration was to blame for the shooting which i think everybody is in agreeance is wrong even people in australia but what awful insensitive timing to spout your opinion as well the thing that i love most about this story is the petition that has come off the back of this about this guy and people wanting to essentially kick him out of parliament. How many signatures? At this stage, the last time I looked, it's over a million people,

which is one of the biggest petitions ever in Australia. That's your favourite bit? My favourite bit is... Well, I just think that's amazing to see how many people disagree. My favourite bit is the guy that you've probably seen on Instagram over the weekend, who they're calling Egg Boy. And I don't want to use words that are too strong, but...

He's a teenager who went to this guy's press conference and cracked an egg on his head. He didn't throw an egg at him. He walked up very calmly behind him, got out his phone and filmed it as he cracked an egg on this guy's bald head. You can hear the crack here if you listen carefully.

I don't know. He really called that guy's, that Anning guy's bluff too because he turns around. He hit him. He did. He hit a kid over it. Yeah, he hit him a few times. Which really showed his true colours. That guy, I checked in last night, Egg Boy, whose real name is William Connolly,

last night had gone up to 300,000 Instagram followers. Wow. He's become a cult figure. There was a give a little set up to raise money for his legal costs. The police let him go, by the way. The police let him go straight away without charge. They raised $40,000 for this kid's legal costs. Have you seen now that Egg Boy is donating all of that money

to the victims' families of the Christchurch shootings? Which I think is legendary. It is, I mean, he did crack an egg on a guy's head, but it is, as far as protests go, it's a pretty good one, right? I mean, you know what it's done. It's obviously, we're all talking about it now and we're talking more about this guy's terrible views.

So I guess it has brought to light the whole situation as well. If you would like some advice from Egg Boy himself, this is an Instagram story that he posted. Don't egg politicians. You get tackled by 30 bogans at the same time.

I learnt the hard way. Bree and Clint, the podcast. ZM. Joining the show this afternoon by TVNZ breakfast host and Christchurch boy, this is Jack Tame. Hey, Jack. Hello. Kia ora, guys.

Jack's a good mate of mine. Me and him went to broadcasting school together, and I know he is Christchurch proud. You at Kashmir High? Were you at Kashmir High, boy? I am indeed at Kashmir High. I'm very impressed. Good memory. Yeah, and Jack is there at the moment covering everything

that's going on. Whereabouts are you at the moment? So, I'm just like just about 100 metres from Agley Park at the moment. It's weird, eh, because I was here for the, I live in Auckland now, but I was here for the earthquakes as well as a journalist. And, you know, when we were all here for the earthquakes,

I guess it was kind of similar in that there was the world's media and, you know, there were heaps of reporters and news teams in town. But obviously the attention here at the moment is kind of centralised on a couple of areas. So last time, whereas, you know, there were like cordons everywhere and road cones everywhere and all that sort of thing, most of the attention at the moment is focused on a couple of places, like the big memorials at the moment. Jack, what has it been like for you, obviously, as a broadcaster

and someone who's experiencing a lot of this stuff firsthand and you're from Christchurch, what has it been like for you on a personal level? You know, I'll be honest with you. I've spent quite a few years overseas as a correspondent and things and I was a reporter in the US that had to cover a lot of massacres in the US. So I remember, for example, covering the Sandy Hook massacre. In fact, I remember in 2016 covering the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, in Florida, and in that, 49 people died. And it's really interesting because I distinctly remember

thinking when I was covering that story, and 49 people had been killed by this, you know, by this crazed person who was threatened because the people inside this nightclub were in the rainbow community and were different to him. I distinctly remember thinking, I want to go home. Like, I'm sick of having to cover these kind of stories. I'm sick of covering massacres and grieving people

and people who have died unnecessarily. People who have died at the hand of evil. I want to go home because it's not a risk there. So honestly, I don't think I've got to the point where I can actually believe that, you know, the city I grew up in has become a venue of such an appalling, disturbing act. It is like the Prime Minister said,

and like everybody is saying, it is unprecedented. It's territory we haven't been in together. We haven't been in before, but we are doing it together. And Jack, we appreciate the coverage that you're doing down there. Do you need a sleep?

Do you need to go for a nap? Yeah, I'll go for a nap. Yeah. Okay. All right. Thanks, Jack. That is Jack Tame, TVNZ Breakfast host.

ZM Spree and Clint, the podcast. Today on the show, it's not like one of our normal shows. We're not doing what we normally do. It doesn't feel right today. Instead, we are sharing stories and messages from Christchurch and from around the country from people who have been affected and people who are still in it at the moment as well. People are hurting and people are grieving and we're right there with you and I think the most amazing thing that's come out of this and the thing

that I feel is just the sense of community coming together and being there for one another. It's really easy to get caught up in the numbers too I think and get desensitised to that 50 number which is the number of people who lost their lives on the day

and 48 people still injured, some seriously, including very young people. I think it's really important that you keep people, and I think people are doing a great job of this, but keep the people in mind in this sense. I've seen a lot of Instagram accounts now that are actually publishing the stories of the people who were involved and the people who passed away.

And there are some really dramatic, really heroic stories. There's heroes in amongst all of those people. And I think they're the stories that we need to focus on. Those people who, you know, there's people who gave up their life so that someone else could, you know, live. And I think, I mean, such amazing stories from such kind and amazing people. We have here something that you might have heard with Fletch Vaughan and Megan this morning.

I think it's a beautiful package that they've cut together. It includes messages of condolence and support from people all over the country who listen to ZM. They got you guys to send it, I think, via Instagram and it's all been cut together into a package. So this is it. This is a bit of a tribute.

Bree and Clint, ZM. This is one of New Zealand's darkest days. It is clear that this can now only be described as a terrorist attack. To the Muslim community within Aotearoa New Zealand, I stand beside you with my head bowed and my tears have been flowing, knowing that nothing I say or do will offer much. My heart goes out to the Muslim community of New Zealand and to Christchurch. May you find peace in this tragedy and feel the aroha of New Zealand for you.

We love you and you're so welcome here. I am so sorry that it has taken such an event to show you that. Our thoughts and our prayers are with those who have been impacted today. Christchurch was the home of these victims. I really hope that the victims here eventually feel safe again, because we really want them to. To any Muslims here in New Zealand who may be scared to go out in traditional dress, I'm going to be that weird white lady

smiling at you if we make eye contact. It's just my way of letting you know that I'm an ally. Our hearts are breaking with you. You are welcome here. You are wanted here. You're loved and you will be supported. You're as much a part of this country as I am. We were not a target because we're a part of this country as I am.

We were not a target because we're a safe harbour for those who hate. We were chosen for the very fact that we represent diversity, kindness, compassion, a home for those who share our values. And those values, I can assure you, will not and cannot be shaken by this attack. Apologies don't change anything, but I am so sorry. I won't be praying for any change, but I promise to take action wherever I have the opportunity to.

This is not the Christchurch we know. This isn't what our country is about. We know this tragedy isn't you. We know New Zealand. Zealand have been so hurt, but you will stand together and you will recover. Christchurch, we will get through this. We've had some hard times, and I know we will rise up again with love,

compassion, strength and kindness. Keep your loved ones close and spread kindness. Our community is stronger than hatred ever will be. We can all come together and become better than this and stronger than this. To New Zealand, may this be a defining moment in our history, but not only for the tragedy that it is, but for the change it makes to our attitudes. May we be more loving, accepting and compassionate from this day on. We are a proud nation of more than 200 ethnicities,

160 languages, and amongst that diversity we share common values. And the one that we place the currency on right now is our compassion. I love you and I'm sure this happens. He aha te mea nui o te ao. He tangata, he tangata, he tangata. Kia kaha. Kia kaha. Kia kaha and know that you're one of us. You always will be us. You are us.

You are us. They are us. Bree and Clint, the podcast. ZM. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has just spoken. Our producers are just taking the audio down at the moment and we'll bring you some of that very shortly, including some of the announcements that she's made, I think around guns as well.

So we'll get that to you in the next 10 minutes. Before then though, we wanted to talk, because you know that helpless feeling of, God, what can I actually do in a situation like this? We wanted to talk about some of the practical ways that we know that you can actually try and help at the moment. Yeah, there's a few different things that's happening. Obviously in a situation like this, everyone just wants to help.

And it's actually amazing to see how many people are willing to put their hand up to say, I'm here. We talked before about the number of people just offering home baking to the first responders and the emergency services in Canterbury. That's a cool story. And that is a cool thing that you can continue to do unless you're a bad baker because it's real awkward if you get given baking and it's like real dry and then you have to eat it.

The thought that counts, mate. And you're like, oh, thank you. And they're like, go on, try some. You're like, oh, it's so good I need some water. Thank you so much. I'm going to save this for later. There is the text and call line that's doing the rounds that if you're feeling like you need to talk to someone or you just want to try and make sense of

everything, the text or call number you can call at any time. And this is anyone. You might not be in Christchurch. You might be around the country and you might have loved ones affected, you might not, but you can text or call 1737 at any time. And that's free? Yes. 1737. I want to look at these give-a-littles because these keep going crazy in the best way. So there are two main ones.

The first one is the victim support, the official victim support give-a-little page. Yeah. I just checked it. It is currently at $5.5 million. Wow. Given by people in less than three days. Isn't that unbelievable?

That is incredible. I watched a thing on the TV this morning with one of the directors of that group, and he said, I want people to know who are donating to this that none of it will go to operating costs. None of it go to us running the service, which, I mean, I wouldn't be upset if it did. I wouldn't personally, if they had to use it to cover some of their own costs. None of it go to us running the service, which I mean, I wouldn't be upset if it did. I wouldn't personally, if they had to use it to cover some of their own costs.

But it works with victims directly ongoing as well, because some of them all need support right now. Some of them will need support in a couple of months when it all sinks in, because some of them have also lost the main breadwinner in the family as well. So they don't, until the money dries up, I mean, they might not need help yet. And then ongoing, things like therapy and support for the years to come. The other one that is doing, is going well on Give A Little

is the Canterbury Muslim Community Trust. Now, this is the one that I donated to over the weekend. And the reason I donated to this one is because they're obviously, they've set up this page and it's official and it's verified. So they're obviously a group that needs help as well. And maybe it will get to that community, the Christchurch Muslim community a little bit faster.

Maybe it has to go through less red tape to get to them. I don't know. But that one is also at $89,000 already. That's amazing. Because obviously we're thinking about the wider Muslim community and they need help and support in this situation as well. The other one's giving blood. We talked about this on Friday.

It was kind of a knee-jerk reaction from us to go, geez, go and give blood right now. I've just checked the NZ Blood Facebook page. Yes. And they're still saying they're stocks. You call it stocks? Yeah, blood stocks. I thought blood stocks was horses.

Yeah, stocks, reserves. The amount of blood they've got healthy at the moment. Okay, great. But if you do want to do something, they said you can sign up and then they'll give you a message when they need some blood. They'll get in contact that way. Perfect. So, yeah, there's some small practical things

you can, if you feel like helping, that you can do. Another good thing you can do is keep reporting stuff on social media that you see that is hateful, harmful, or just not helpful. Let's get rid of it. Report it, delete it where you can, if it's on your page, that sort of thing. And then also spread the support, spread the love,

and just talk to each other and care Carhartt New Zealand. Yeah, and keep sharing good things. Exactly. Like this one. I've got something here for you. This is from, it's a recording that we've got of the Westminster Chorus. Now these guys are one of the world's top choirs. It's a big

group of singers. They are a former, if you know your choirs, they're a former choir of the world. They're a Pavarotti trophy winner and they've also toured New Zealand know your choirs, they're a former choir of the world. They're a Pavarotti trophy winner. And they've also toured New Zealand a couple of times, but they're not Kiwis. They have done a rendition of Pokarekareana,

and we're going to play that for you to keep sharing good things this afternoon. Bree and Clint, have a listen to this. ZM. Kare, kare, aha, nawaia roto nua Fitia tuko ehine, marino ana e Oh, the podcast. We just mentioned before that Give a Little page, which is going gangbusters, the one that's at $5.5 million.

I'm refreshing the page. It's going up. It's going up. It's going up $100 every 10 seconds. Amazing. It is just there have been 71,355 different people donate to it so far. And we were talking about earlier just things that you could do and if you're sitting there wondering what can I do to help and I think this is a really great text message that's come through from Julia

and she said, another suggestion of a practical way people can help the Muslim community now is offering to walk with them, wait at the bus stop with them so they can feel safe and loved. And I think that's such an important message. Even if it's you see someone from the Muslim community, even giving them a smile, letting them know that you're an ally. And learning a bit more about a different culture, I think is what we can take away from this. We spoke to someone earlier on the show whose name is Sohail Din. He is a member of the Auckland University

Muslim Students Association. And we said to him, look, if one good thing can come out of this, what would that be? And this is what he said. I think the one good thing that I'd like to see come out of this is just everyone being a lot more supportive towards each other because I think this issue itself isn't just an issue that Muslim people have to face.

Obviously, the situation affected all of us as New Zealanders. The sort of solidarity that we Muslims have experienced following this event, I'd be appreciative if the The sort of solidarity that we Muslims have experienced following this event, I'd be appreciative if the same sort of energy and this support and this continued for all minority groups around New Zealand. Because at the end of the day, we all belong to different groups, ethnicities, ethnic backgrounds, gender, all this. But it'd be great if we were all united under the fact that we all live in New Zealand and we're all Kiwis. It'd be great if we just had the same level or even better solidarity

that we have now. Which I think is really really well put as well. Yeah, super important message. Also check in on your mates. Like everybody everybody, doesn't matter who you are has been affected in some way by this obviously some a lot more than others but everybody is processing this

in different ways. How are you going by the way? Are you okay? It's one of those moments and, I mean, Friday was one of the hardest radio shows I've ever had to do and I know it was the same for you. Yeah. And just reporting on and giving updates on this thing that I couldn't believe was happening.

Yeah. I'm sitting here and, I mean, I'm a visitor to this country and I've been here for over a year now and I just love this country so much because of the people that live here and how accepting they are of people. Yeah. I spoke to some Australians on the weekend as well and I don't think it's fair, but they said that they were feeling a weird sense of guilt about it as well because the guy was Australian. And I don't think you should. I absolutely don't think you should.

But I am interested in how you are feeling as an Australian having to hear that, having to hear that this person is from your country. That was a really hard moment for me on Friday because, I mean, yeah, I call New Zealand my home now. Like I love this place and to hear that someone from the country where I'm from has come over here and has done this horrific thing

was really hard for me to kind of comprehend. But I think out of all of this, the thing that I, and the reason why I love this country so much is that I don't feel that guilt or blame from anyone here. No. And I don't know anybody who thinks you should either. The outpouring of love and support and aroha from across the Tasman has been major too.

Yeah. Even just the signing of petitions to remove people from over there who are in positions of power, who hold views that can cause events like this. You know, it's major and it is felt and it is important. And I hope that, yeah, it brings, I mean, I feel like it's going to bring our two countries closer together because, I mean, both countries, New Zealand and Australia,

such safe, amazing places to live. And I hope that we continue to show the love and support that has come from this devastating tragedy. Music is really powerful in moments like this. Like it has the ability to just sort of wrap up a feeling and sum up a mood. And I've been looking for that song because that's what we do. We do radio and we play songs in between and I've been trying to find the right song. I heard a song today that I think is appropriate and it sums up how I'm feeling.

I think you and I both think that this is the spot where we would normally do Birthday Banger on our show and we're not going to do it today because we are not doing our normal kind of show. Instead, we're going to play this song as a bit of a tribute from us to everybody who's been affected like this, in particular, the Muslim community of New Zealand

because let's not forget this was an attack on you guys and you guys are feeling it the most. So this is a song by Emily Sandé. This is called Sparrow. Bree and Clint, ZM. I got wind beneath my wings. I think this time I'm going to make it till morning. Bree and Clint, the podcast, ZM.

Today's been a very different show for us. We've tried to reflect on, obviously, the tragedy that happened on Friday and we wanted you guys to feel like you could text in or you could call us any time with how you were feeling or if you had someone to thank or just with whatever. And we've got some really amazing texts that have come through all show actually. Yeah, you've been manning the text machine or womaning the text machine all day today and you've done a great job replying.

Some of them have been pretty full on, so you've done well there. But what, we're going to read some of these out now? Yeah, I'd like to read some of them out and some of them are just thank yous to people. Some of them are really touching as well, so we'd like to read a few of those texts out now. Sure thing, yep. So this was a text we got early in the show and it said, Respect to you guys for having an open platform for people to discuss Friday's incident.

Some people heal by talking and I would appreciate it if you could do a huge shout out to Matt and Tracy from My Father's Barbers in Rickerton. This couple has pulled so many resources and people together to help the community. It's quite astonishing how much two people have accomplished. Here's another one. It says, I'm a nurse at the emergency department at Christchurch Hospital. I just wanted to say a massive thank you to everyone that has sent us food and drinks and kind messages.

To the coffee shops and carts around the hospital that kept us caffeinated on the weekend. To the police that kept us safe. Our whole team, doctors, nurses, aides, ambos. We started Friday different people to who we are at the end of that day. And I just want to publicly say thank you, thank you, thank you to everyone that has offered us support in any way. That's awesome. Here, this was a short one that everyone that has offered us support in any way. That's awesome. Here, this was a short one that came through. It said,

This one, support. I think we should also say a big thanks, not just to the emergency team and hospital staff, but to the hardworking men who are busy, probably, and women actually, busy preparing all the graves for the funerals. They have been working nonstop throughout the weekend to help fellow New Zealanders be at peace. This was another text that came through and this was from Jack who was in Christchurch. He said, I've been blown away in the last few days. The strength and love of the Muslim community is unbelievable. After everything they've suffered and gone through, they still find time to share love and support by making food to give to any of us preparing their burial grounds. Their strength, love and no fear attitude is exactly what we will cast away

this evil and other evil in the world. Truly inspiring and such a beautiful culture they portray. God, that is powerful, that one, isn't it? Amazing. Hey, Bree and Clint, Shaz here. We live in Christchurch. We took our kids to Dean's Ave today to lay some flowers and to show our love and support. The sadness was overwhelming, but man, That's awesome.

This was from another person who's in Christchurch, and they said, I work for a charity that teaches English to adult refugees and migrants. Our Christchurch centre delivers classes in one of the mosques that was targeted. While we mourn and cry, we will continue to do what we can do to help new Kiwis feel at home

and live their best new lives here. Our text line's always open. If you want to use it, you can text us on 9696 and we will share what we can. Okay, let's take a break. We'll be back in a moment. ZM Spree and Clint, the podcast. Like we've been saying all day today, our phone lines are open, our text machine's open if you do need to call through.

Hi, Dave. Hey, guys. How you doing? Yeah, going good. How are you, mate? Yeah, a lot better from the other day's tragedy and just wanted to say a massive thank you for all the love and support you guys have given us.

It's so rad. Are you in Christchurch? Yeah, yeah, I'm just driving around at the moment. I was going to go down and offer my sleeper cab to Jack, who sounds like he needs a nap. We talked to Jack Tame, who is the breakfast reporter on air before, and yeah, that guy's been working

around the clock, man. And that's his hometown, too, so you can really see that he's feeling this as well, right? Oh, man. It's so nice to have everyone come together at this sad time. We are all just one big family, apart from the nasty people.

Hey, you're on air at the moment. What's your message for your city? You're obviously a Cantab. What do you want to get out there? We're going to stick together. We're going to get through this. We're a strong community. We're all the same together.

Just love and love, that's all we've been given. I'm sad for all the families that have lost people, but if there's anything anyone can do, just ask for help and stick together. Hey, Dave, we really appreciate you calling through and being a part of the ZM family as well. Kia kaha to you, Dave. Yeah, thank you so much for your support, guys.

That's so cool. Bree and Clint, the media again just before. God, she is just non-stop, isn't she? I mean, you think, you know, she's running on absolute fumes at the moment, isn't she? And she's got a new baby. Yeah. She is, she's setting a great example. It's her job, and she's acknowledged acknowledged that and she is doing her job,

but you have to take your hat off to her in a situation like this. No one wants this job. What an amazing job she has done over the past three days though. The images of her showing up to the memorials and stuff in traditional dress as well and just like scenes of her embracing people who were crying. It's really powerful stuff. You just don't, you don't see that stuff from world leaders. And I just don't think a leader like her comes along very often.

No, we're very lucky. Super lucky. And I'm so lucky to be living in this country right now when she is the leader. And I don't want that to sound political. It's just I think we have, in a situation like this, I think we have a great leader who is doing a great job. She has just spoken on guns. She has drawn a line in the sand and she has,

it's been very clear from the moment this happened that things were going to change with guns. She said that on Monday, they will announce what the law changes are going to be, which means within 10 days of the attack, the laws will have changed. Because it's interesting, and obviously this has brought to light some of the gun laws here in New Zealand, which, I mean,

I didn't realise this, and I don't know if you did either, but I didn't realise that the gun laws here in New Zealand are different to Australia. I didn't know that either. Are they stricter in Australia? They're stricter. Because you guys had a massacre, right? Exactly right.

It was the Port Arthur Massacre. And after that, John Howard, who was the leader at the time, brought in very similar rules that Jacinda is talking about. She's just come out and made this statement about guns as well. You can surrender your gun to the police at any time. People are in fact already doing this. I applaud that effort. And if you're thinking about surrendering your weapon,

I would encourage you to do so. Really interesting, eh? So it's almost like, look, we'll wipe the slate clean for a moment. If you've got one, you shouldn't have, bring it in. That's exactly what they did in Aussie. It's the only way you're going to get them. Thousands of guns were surrendered. Every day this thing gets more and more interesting

and things continue to change and I think that's the right thing. So proud moment, proud Kiwi moment there. That's cool ZM's Free and Clint the podcast if you enjoyed this podcast why not give ZM's Fletchbourne and Megan a listen too subscribe on the

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