ZM's Bree & Clint - ZM's Bree & Clint with Matty McLean Podcast – 17th February 2022

Episode Date: February 17, 2022

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The ZM Podcast Network Kia ora everybody, welcome to the Bree and Clint Podcast Producer Ben is urgently coming into the studio to get some Fijoa lumps They're good man They're really good, I think you're going to love them Did you take one for Anastasia? You want one? I didn't even get her one

Were you going to go out there and eat that beside her? We specifically left those for you both Yeah Also they're not ours So we might get in a lot of trouble I make that man a coffee every day And this is what I get The cheek

You get one One Feejah pineapple There's one left When do you want to tell Ben the fun fact about him? Is that for now or is that for later

or is that for never? Go on It could be for now Is it now? Is that What do you think? I think it's now Do it now?

Yeah Wait What's the fun fact about? Well sit beside your microphone like a professional and maybe you'll get to find out Okay Someone Someone I know has a little bit of a crush on you fact about? Well sit beside your microphone like a professional and maybe you'll get to find out. Okay.

Someone I know has a little bit of a crush on you Ben. I know. That's the reaction. I thought it was a fun fact about me. It is about you. You're the subject. Okay. Do you want to do anything with that information? Nah. What's wrong with the person? What do you mean nah?

No. You don't want to know who it is? I want to know who it is Well I'm not going to tell you if you're not going to do anything with the information You're acting underwhelmed No I won't do anything with the information But I'd love to know You won't do anything with the information? No

What if it's the woman of your dreams Ben? Yeah What if it's Hilary Berry? The woman of your dreams, Ben? Yeah. What if it's Hilary Barry? The woman of your dreams. Married mother of two, Hilary Barry has the biggest crush on you, Ben.

But that'd be cool. Yeah. I'm keen to know. Yeah, we all want to know, but I don't think he deserves to know it if he's not. I'll tell you later,

Anastasia. Also, these are disgusting. Yeah, they are horrible horrible this is the worst we just gave them a four star review on the radio that was genuinely the worst lolly I've ever eaten

but do you like even worse than cherry ripe do you okay don't say bad words about cherry ripe okay yeah that was that's a low bar that was a low blow

do you like Fijawas though ah the jury's out on that yeah I love Fijawas so I think your review reflected that well totally so what did you like Fijawas though? The jury's out on that. I love Fijawas. So I think your review reflected that well. Totally. So what did you expect? What were you hoping for?

Well, I mean, I don't really like bananas that much and the banana lollies taste good. Because they don't taste like banana. We literally told you they taste like Fijawas. Okay, well there are... Look. Ben, what if it's Anna Kendrick from the movie with the cups in it? What's it called?

Pitch Perfect. Yeah, that's a good point. Is it someone I would know? You know old things. I reckon they look at TVNZ. It's New Zealand. There's two degrees of separation between you and everybody. And I'll tell you right now, there is one degree of separation between you and this person.

Who's a single TVNZ person is it a chick or a male it's a chick okay would I have met them no I wouldn't have met them no

oh so this is like from afar she's like oh you're working from a distance I'm keen on their producer does she like outdoors because he likes outdoors

we have talked about that a lot I'm like you'd better get into tramping oh so they're not outdoorsy oh no no no I like outdoors because he likes outdoors. We have talked about that a lot. I'm like, you'd better get into tramping. Oh, so they're not outdoorsy. Oh, no, no, no. But they would be. Perfectly outdoorsy. I have a question.

What are the things that make them like Ben? Like, is it attraction? Like, is it physical? Is it personality? Anastasia's like, I've got a conundrum because I can't figure it out. What could they possibly like about this man he's got good quality so he's really good at buying gifts like thoughtfulness yeah we put that to not good at sharing his feed uh what do they like about him yeah like do they like a guy with a moustache? I think it's the air. The whole package. The aura. The aura?

The vibe. You are in demand. The steez. From one person. Huh? Well, there might be more. Yeah, there might be. Yeah, you get one guess. That's awkward, eh?

Yeah, that's hard. Is the person who finds me hot? I can choose from anybody. On screen or behind the scenes Yeah let's do it You're convinced they're from TVNZ You know Maddie knows people outside of TVNZ No no no but

When we're talking about the one degree of separation I would say the majority of Mutual connections that these two Would have would be through You don't have to be mutual Maddie can be the pivot And they can have nothing to do with each other. Maddie is the degree of separation. He's the between.

There's one degree of separation between Maddie, between Ben and the doctor who delivered Maddie originally, and Maddie is the degree of separation. It's not the doctor. Please be the doctor. I was just making that assumption, because I saw a large group of people that Ben will know, which is TVNZ people

and that's also who Maddie knows I reckon we don't tell them you haven't earned the right but if you come to me one day and you say I think I'm interested is she a hottie? beautiful top tier

from a great family as well I'll just leave it at that cool so Maddie any news for me? From a great family as well. I'll just leave it at that. Whoa. Okay. Cool. So, Maddie, any news for me? Oh, that was good. No, that was good. That was very good.

No. Sorry. Oh, we'll find someone. Just ask your bloody name already. Today's podcast everybody By the way I'm sure you've heard Maddie On our podcast before

If you haven't If you've just joined us Maddie is filling in for Brie While she's away It's so nice to be here I did have to watch myself today though Because um Last time I filled in on this show

Brie said I had free reign To say whatever I wanted And I said bitch And then everyone looked at me like I'd said the worst thing in the world She stitched you up She says worse shit than that She said swamp ass on the show

A week ago Live So yeah We love Matty And he's here Hopefully you love him too Because he's here for a while If you don't I'm so sorry

Enjoy everybody Talk to you soon Bye If you don't, I'm so sorry Enjoy everybody, talk to you soon, bye Good morning everybody, welcome to the show Bree and Clint, Bree's not here but our special guest Maddie's back, hi Maddie It's so nice to see you You're our go-to, you're our impact player off the bench

I'm so happy too because I spent a lot of time when I did try and play some sports at high school on the bench. Oh, yeah, yeah. So it's nice to finally be picked up off the bench. I got the big call-up. I got the big call-up. We appreciate it. Matty, you'll know him from TVNZ, breakfast every morning,

and now he's going to be in the afternoons with you driving home as well. Have you had a good summer? So dreamy. So good. We had a reallyons with you driving home as well. Have you had a good summer? So dreamy. So good. We had a really decent amount of time off as well. They were building us a brand new studio on breakfast. I saw it. It's very fancy.

Very fancy. So we had a little bit more time off than we normally would. Yeah. My partner Ryan and I are both from the South Island. So as soon as we could, we got the hell out of Auckland and went to the South Island. Yeah, that's good. So good. Today on the show, we have one more item to add to our cart.

It's Hayley Sproul's cart today, and she herself has said that she has a quote-unquote bougie AF cart up for grabs. We're only just getting to know Hayley as well. She's new to the ZM family, so you learn a lot about a person by the items they put in their cart. Absolutely. These are their dream items. We'll give you the last one at 4 o'clock

and then you can call us at 5 o'clock to win everything. But we'll start the show with $50 cash up for grabs with Tradie vs Lady. Matty is your quiz master this afternoon. If you would like to take him on and score that $50 cash, call us now on 0800-DIAL-ZM and we'll play

Tradie vs Lady after the Kid Leroy and Justin Bieber on ZM, Bree and Clint. Bree and Clint. Bree and Clint. Tradie vs. Lady. The Tradies vs. the Ladies

every day to start the show to win 50 bucks cash thanks to KFC. The score for the year, the Ladies are on 10 and the Tradies are on the comeback

on 7. Oh, comeback. Yeah, they were down to likeies are on the comeback on 7. Oh, comeback. Yeah, they were down to like, it was like 2 to 10. Wow, okay. Yeah, so it's been a charge from the tradies but will it continue? Let's meet our lady first. She's from the Tron. She's 34 and she grew up with three lion cubs. What? In South Africa.

Welcome to the show, Kerry. Hey, Kerry. Awesome, thank you. Lion cubs. Yeah, we need to know more about this. Hey, Kerry. Awesome, thank you. Lion Cubs. Yeah, we need to know more about this. Yeah, so I grew up on a nature wave and my mum was a bit of a doctor. So in the 50s, I was trying to get my mum to raise me.

We've got a bit of a bad phone line, but I imagine in South Africa the rules are a little bit different. Is that kind of what it comes down to? It's a bit more wild out there? Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, cool. Okay, Kerry, your buzzer is Lady Wait there with us. You'll be taking on our tradie today. He's from Rangiora. He's 19

years old and he got his car stolen last night. Oh, stinkers. Welcome to the show, Elfie. What sort of car, Elfie? We should put a PB out on the radio for it right Hey. What sort of car, Alfie? We should put a PB out on the radio for it right now. What sort of car was it? It's a 1999 Ford Courier, white. Oh, a Ford Courier van.

Oh, yeah, okay. What's the number plate? Have you got like a fancy personalised number plate someone will recognise? No, it's like YG2570. All right. If you see that van, probably don't approach the person. They're a thief and we don't know what they'll do.

You sound like the guy from Police 107 right now. Alfie, your buzzer is tradie. First to get to three correct answers is going to win 50 bucks cash. Maddie has your questions. Good luck, everybody. All right. Are you ready? Yeah, ready.

Question number one. Roughly how many COVID cases did we have today? Lady. 1,560. That's roughly correct, yeah. That'll do me. One to the

ladies. Question number two. Name a brand of smartphone that is not made by Apple. Lady. Carrie again. Oppo. Oppo is a... Yeah.

There you go. Absolutely. Okay. Well, you're on fire, Carrie. Thank you. One more and you've got the win. Question number three. Who are the Black Caps currently playing?

Australia. Lady. Carrie. Australia. No. Oh, no. You're going to kick yourself when you find out the answer as Australia. Lady. Kerry. Australia. No. Oh, no. You're going to kick yourself when you find out the answer as well. That's Africa.

Alfie, it's in Christchurch where you are, so maybe you've got an advantage. Do you want to have a guess? I'm going to say South Africa. It is South Africa. Dang on. You're on the board. It's two to the ladies, one to the tradies.

Question number four. Someone won a record-breaking $11,000 in the cash build-around on The Chase. What channel is The Chase on in New Zealand? Ladies. Carrie. TV2? No.

Alfie, you want to tie it up? One. That's correct. Okay, and question number five. What time is it currently in LA? Is it five, six, or seven? Trudy. Lady.

Alfie. Six. He's done it, everybody. He's done it. What a comeback. Carrie, you were right there. You had it right. Oh, no.

You were so close. Alfie, though, you might not have a car, but you've got 50 bucks thanks to KFC. Congratulations. I see that. Thanks, guys. Brie and Clint. Are you addicted to your phone?

Or do you have a cell phone addiction? Oh, okay. Does that noise trigger you? Hopefully not, because that phone can't do anything. If you have an addiction to that phone, you're just... Way too much snake, right? Yeah, you're living in 1999. Would you say you're addicted to your phone?

Awfully. I'm constantly on it. But when I was on Treasure Island a few years ago, we had to give up our phone for however long we were on the island for. Yeah. And I loved it. It was like a total reset. Yeah.

And it made me go, oh, my God, I don't think I need this anymore. But you could do it because someone made you do it, right? Like you could go without your phone for a few days now if you chose to. Totally. But it wouldn't be the same. And I kind of realised that a lot of it for me is actually just having something to do it's something to do with my hands and that's what smokers say hey they say half the addiction is just something to do with your hands absolutely so i got off the island going i'm a

changed man i'm not gonna i'm gonna put the phone down i'm gonna be more present yeah i was looking people in the eyes i was having deep and meaningful conversations. How long did it last? 10 days. Oh, 10 days? If that. I think I'm even being generous with that. Yeah, right.

Well, it is a real thing. Smartphone addiction is known as nomophobia. Oh, God. The fear of being without a mobile phone. It's defined as when you spend more time on social media or playing games than you do interacting with real people or you can't stop yourself from repeatedly checking text, emails and apps.

I think I'm the second one. I'm definitely that. And the worst part is when you're sitting on the couch at night time and you're watching TV. Yeah. So you're half watching the TV, half on your phone. I can't even put my phone down then. And you don't know what's going on in the show.

Yeah, and then you have to rewind. So how do you deal with it? There's an article out today that says there are some tips on how you can fight phone addiction if you want to, like if you think it's a problem for you. Help me. So here are some suggestions. One, you can do what's called a screen fast,

and that's where you go cold turkey and completely avoid all screens. So they're saying that they're all a stimulus and they're all just a bigger or smaller version of the same thing. So that's TV, computer, iPads. Yep. You'd have to take your smartwatch off. Smartwatch, God.

There's screens in everything now. And you do that, anything from one day right up until one month and that's what you did on Treasure Island and you said that it had good results yeah but then I had no responsibilities so I was literally just on the island fighting Barbara Kendall

you're right you'd have to set up some pretty serious out of office messages that said hey I am working you just have to come and find pretty serious out-of-office messages that said, hey, I am working. You just have to come and find me. You literally cannot contact me in any capacity. No, not on anything that uses a screen. You have to write me a letter or come to the place that I work. Send a pigeon and I'll be able to reply.

Okay, maybe not realistic. Another one, set rules around your daily smartphone use. This is where you schedule times of the day where you don't use your phone at all like before and after work. I think that's more realistic. If you say, right, from six to eight or whatever,

we're putting the phones away. In the bedroom we are connecting as a family, as a couple, as friends, flatmates, whatever it is. That's realistic I reckon. My issue with that is that I tell myself that I use my phone to with that is that I I tell myself that I use my phone to relax. So when I get home from work, I go

cool, time for some phone time. Time for some TikTok, time for whatever and it's like a reward. But doesn't it make sense to only use it while you're working? Because that's the time when you need to be contacted. Absolutely. If you're at home, the people who need to find you are with you usually. And the worst part is when you

You know sometimes You know you go to the movies And you put your phone away And then you get out of the movies And you go Oh my god I'm going to have A thousand emails to reply to Or like I'm going to miss

I've missed so many phone calls and texts Yeah No one has contacted you No No one cares about you It's been an hour and a half You're not that important The last tip for breaking

Your smartphone addiction is to make your phone less interesting. You should change the colour of your screen to grey scale. I've done this before and it works. Really? Your phone is way less interesting. You turn the whole thing into black and white mode and so your brain's not getting all these dopamine hits

from the bright colours and the stimulus and all that. And turn off all notifications. So your phone will never tell you to pick it up. You can go, all right, I need to check my messages or check my calls or something. Right. But your phone will never tell you, hey, look at me, that kind of thing. You should also, I found this one really interesting,

rearrange all of the apps on your screen regularly so your brain doesn't by default just know where it is and they're harder to find. Because you know that thing where you just grab your phone and then all of a sudden you're on Instagram

and you're like, how did I even get here? If your brain doesn't know where to automatically find that app, it makes the experience, there's just one more barrier to enjoyment for the experience. Yeah, I remember back in my single days

when I had dating apps, I decided for a while, because you get so addicted to swiping on Tinder. Yeah. Do you? Well, I did. Very. Then I decided, right,

I'm going to have a whole week's break. But because, yeah, you're right, because it's so second nature, even after I said that I was going to take a break, every five minutes I'd be like, damn it! You're back in there. I'm back in there. Yeah, well, there you go.

If you need some help breaking the habit, those are some tips. Such a first world problem. Totally. A problem that we all really badly have. Bree and Clint. I have a study here that says what the number one thing Kiwis fought with their partner

was last year. Right. Now I want you to look deep into your own relationship and tell me what do you think. Are you guys big fighters in your relationship? No.

The occasional bicker. Yeah. Yeah. But not full screaming matches. No. I've slammed one or two doors in the last five years. That's not bad. That's not too bad.

Yeah. Yeah. We're the same. We're not big fighters. But we bicker. But you have quibbles. Yes. And it's usually around really small, petty things.

Any serious relationship, it's always about small things. Totally. Our big one would be we have very different love languages. Oh yeah? Yeah. What's yours? What's your love language? My love language is physical touch. Okay. So I'm forever going just hug me?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I figure if that's the worst thing you're fighting about, we're doing alright. Is Ryan's gifts of service? Acts of service. Acts of service, yeah. Acts of service, right, yeah, right. If I do something for him, if I help him out. If I don't need to touch you, I empty the dishwasher.

Exactly. Exactly. Okay, cool. Well, this study has revealed that the number one thing New Zealand couples fight about is... Not hearing things properly. Mishearing things, selective hearing. Right.

Not necessarily listening or thinking that your partner isn't listening to you. Is that a thing in your relationship? I don't think so. I think you might have to ask Lucy. If we got Lucy on the phone right now, she'd probably be like, I am forever telling him things and he doesn't listen. Right. Couples over 40 in particular, which I guess is when maybe you could blame it on your hearing going a bit and he doesn't listen. Right. Couples over 40 in particular,

which I guess is when maybe you could blame it on your hearing going a bit. I don't know. 54% of over 40s said lack of listening caused disagreements in their relationship. And 58% of them said that they'd had an argument with their partner in the last month due to mishearing. I do think Ryan often tunes me up, but then I just talk incessantly. So he is from time to time going to miss things.

So what do you do to make sure he has heard you? Jump on top of him, hug him, whisper in his ear. I don't know. I don't know. But I get why that would be a hard thing. That would be a big thing for people to fight about. Yeah, yeah. Because if you're like, I need you to do this thing,

it's really important to me, or here's a really specific detail I need you to remember, and they haven't listened or forgot. They just go, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be infuriating. Yeah, it would be, especially if it's like, I need you to pick up this one thing, it's really important, and it doesn't get through.

Totally. So I guess the message is, talk louder? I don't know. If you want to avoid your fight, start shouting at each other. Yeah, yeah. Bree and Clint. Time for the latest. From iHeartRadio, this is the latest live from LA with Dean McCarthy.

Dean McCarthy's here. Coachella Festival is going ahead. But, I mean, how does it work under COVID with Coachella? Dean? Yeah, great question. So here's the deal. First of all, let me just work under COVID with Coachella? Dean? Yeah, great question. So here's the deal. First of all, let me just set the scene for Coachella. If anyone doesn't know what it is,

it's a huge festival. Everything's outdoor. They've got about four or five stages all spread out. It's beautiful. It's out in Palm Springs. It's just literally in the desert with these palm trees in the sky and there's food stalls and things like that.

This time though, obviously this is the first Coachella since the pandemic started. And basically, they will not require a vaccination. They will not require a COVID test. They will not require masks. Now, what's wild about that, let me tell you, everywhere in America you go, you have to show your vaccine card. Starbucks, you name it, everything. And so I'm kind of a bit like, whoa, it's just a wild thing

that they would pull that off. It's out in the Coachella Valley. It's in a different city. It's not under the Los Angeles Council, I guess you could call it. So it kind of can make up its own rules in that respect. There are a lot of people, 100,000 people. It's pretty cool. I mean, Kanye West is performing, Billie Eilish is performing,

but it is a lot of people in one place. That's what I wanted to ask. You're in LA. Is it still like mask up socially distanced in America or has America kind of moved on? No, they're both.

They've actually moved on. Everything's business as usual, but everywhere you go you have to have your mask on. You know, I'm here doing this thing with Idlers we talked about. Every single day, I get tested every single day. So some things are really intense, like a TV shoot with big stars, and that is obviously really, really strict. But everywhere you go, you have to have a mask on. If you're in an Uber, you always have to have a mask on.

Every plane, you have to have a mask. But it's very much business as usual. I am not surprised Coachella's going ahead, but I am very surprised they're not requiring a vaccination or at least masks or something like that. Full on. There'll be a lot of people wearing them, though. Yeah.

A lot of people will wear them. And it's not going to stop people from going, right? People are still going to turn up. Oh, God, no, they'll be there. Oh, they'll be there. It's so good. Like, it is such, it is, you know, if there's things that hyped up, it is actually as good as the hype.

I was sitting there eating a chicken pad thai at Coachella the year that I went and all of a sudden I hear this, Sherman, I'm paying with your thing. Lauryn Hill walks out on this stage. She wasn't even expected to perform or be there with a little acapella and just sings Killing Me Softly, acapella. And you had a pad thai. Exactly.

What a dream result. And I had a chicken pad thai. And you had a chicken pad thai a dream result. And you had a chicken pad tie. That is the latest live out of Los Angeles with our Hollywood correspondent, Dean McCarthy. The Tinder swindler is still one of the biggest TV shows

in the country. You've seen it? I've seen it, obsessed with it. Stalked him on Instagram. Did you? Yeah. He's not there anymore. No, did Instagram take him down? I think maybe he took himself off Instagram, but he's not allowed on Tinder anymore. Yeah.

And a number of, I think Bumble and stuff have all said, I hope so. Yeah. Bumble, like, we'll take you. You know what? There's room for you on Bumble. You were telling me an incredible story before the show about someone that you know who got Tinder swindled.

Yeah, well, it's a friend of a friend friend but i was talking to my good friend who um we were talking about the tinder swindler and just how amazing it was and she said did i not tell you about my flatmate last year and i said no i haven't heard the story this is absolutely bonkers to me so this um girl met a guy on tinder they were dating for about two months and she said he said to her it was in the middle of the pandemic they were living in London and she said he said to her my

brother has died of COVID okay horrible awful so she said and he said and also my whole flat has COVID I can't get home to where my mum and dad live. I've got nowhere to go. She said, come and live with us.

Okay. Of course, your brother's just died. Let's look after you. But she's got flatmates. She's got flatmates, including my friend. Okay. So he moved in with the flat. They got to know each other.

Really nice guy. They all kind of surrounded him with love. About a month later, he said, my mum has now died of COVID. Wow. Okay. And then a week later said, because of the shock of my mum dying, my dad has died of a heart attack. But by this stage, they'd been seeing each other for about four or five months the whole flat

had gotten to know this guy he seemed so nice so honest trustworthy down to earth they weren't looking for a reason not to believe him

absolutely and what an awful thing to lie about right of course you'd believe you're right that's not a normal person's first reaction

when someone says my parents have died. To go, you're lying. Yeah. Prove it. This is the most horrible, horrible situation. This poor guy has lost, in the space of a few months, his brother, his mum and his dad.

Wow. But one of the friends outside of the flat went, this is weird. Because she was removed from the situation and went, this doesn't sound right. So started doing some kind of FBI detective work. And I love this. I love that you can do this in this day and age.

You don't have to have gone to like FBI training school. All you need is a degree in how to stalk someone on Instagram. It's a thing, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so she managed to stalk this guy on Instagram, then found the guy's brother's Instagram page and was like, for someone who died, it's weird that he's posted something a couple of days ago.

And so messaged him on Instagram. The brother. The brother. And the brother replied going, oh shit, he's done it again. No. This guy had been mooching off girls for however long. Yeah. Moving in with them, living rent free.

This is what my friend said. She was like, he hadn't been paying rent because of course he hadn't. They feel sorry for him. His whole family just died. We weren't going to charge him rent for living with he hadn't. They feel sorry for him. His whole family just died. We weren't going to charge him rent for living with us. Yeah. They'd cooked him dinners.

They'd done all of this stuff for him. And he had been lying the entire time. So what was the swindle? Was the swindle just to get accommodation and food? I guess so. And then maybe it goes further. Yeah. Right.

Yeah. Wow. It's bizarre. And I just thought to myself, you see it on the Tinder swindler right And you think This would never happen to someone That I would know Someone in real life Well it did

We talked about it just yesterday on the show And we had someone who works in banking Whose job it is to like Track down things that look like a scam And she said the same thing You talk to these people Who are on the surface of it Of course

Why would you transfer $100,000 to someone in a different country you've never met? But once you end up talking to this person and you develop a relationship, that's where the con comes in.

Absolutely. And that's where you end up believing anything. Like the woman on the Tinder swindler who went into tens, hundreds of thousands

of dollars of debt for this guy. Exactly. Because like we were saying, you've got no reason to believe someone that you're living with would lie about something like that. Yeah.

But they do. Man, got to get off Tinder, eh? Exactly. Tinder, it's over. Says the married guy. Man, you guys got to get off Tinder. You guys are so stupid. We've got Shanil Lal on the phone soon.

They are the founder of the End Conversion Therapy movement here in New Zealand, which did happen this week. Conversion Therapy has been outlawed. Huge win. Huge win. Shanil will be on the show and we'll talk about what that means. Before then, though, Matty, are you a wordler? Wordler?

Wordler? Obsessed. Are you? I'm obsessed. How long have you been wordling? We are quite a while, actually. I'm on quite a long streak. I don't wordle.

Does it give you a streak? It gives you a streak. I think I'm on about a 60 streak at the moment. I have not lost a wordle yet. So that's 60 days in a row. 60 days in a row of doing it and also successfully doing it. If you don't Wordle, it's a website you go to every day and the whole world has to guess what this...

It's usually a five-letter word, right? It's always a five-letter word. It's always a five-letter word. And you have six attempts to guess the five-letter word. Twitter users are complaining that Wordle is using more difficult words now that the New York Times has taken over. Okay, I'm so pleased. We're talking about this and I'm so pleased I'm not going crazy

because I have been thinking that this last week or two. So you think it's gotten harder? We have had words like, usually it can be a simple word like space. We have had in the last wee while, we had cynic one day. Oh, that's a hard word. It's a hard word to even spell. And it's not necessarily, it's just the figuring out the letters as well.

You've got a two C, because what it does is you'll put the word in and it'll tell you if you've got the right letters or not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you've got two Cs, you've got a Y in there, very hard. Yesterday's word, cork. C-A-U-L-K cork.

What does that mean? It's like a filler that you use in DIY. Oh nah, no one would have got that. No one would have got it. Did you get it? I got it eventually but god it took me a long time. Did you know what it was? Do you Google words before you put them in? Like are you Googling while you're wordling?

No because you don't really because you can't really Google until you've guessed what the word is. That doesn't really help you at all. Right. But I mean, are you Googling to see if cork is a word? Oh, yes, absolutely. So before you punch it in, you'll use a dictionary to go. Am I right?

Am I going crazy here? Well, what's the truth? Has it gotten harder or are you getting dumber? The New York Times says... They haven't changed anything, bro. We're dumb asses. They haven't changed a single thing. Damn it.

Tiger Webb, great name. It's a person. They're a language expert with the ABC in Australia. Said that he isn't sure the game has got more complex either. Said it could be a bit harder. They could have changed something slightly, but at the same time, if you open the dictionary to a random page, you will always find a five-letter word in English that you don't know.

Right. I thought we could test that. I've gone to a random word generator, and I've got three five-letter words that it's generated for us, and I want to see if you know what these are. These could be good word practice for you. I'm terrible because Ryan always says

to me, my partner, what does this word mean? And I try and I know what the word means but I'm terrible at explaining it. First word, N-U-C-H-A

Nucha. Nucha. Do you know what Nucha is? It sounds like it's some sort of like Mexican like dip. No, that's not what a Nucha is. I can use it in some sort of like Mexican dip.

No, that's not what a nootcher is. I can use it in a sentence for you. Please. Matty, I'd love to touch your nootcher. Oh, Clint. So it's on your body. Where do you think your nootcher is? I'm a taken man.

Where's your nootcher? Is it like the skin in the middle of your elbow or something weird? That's your weenus. That's your weenus. Oh, your weenus. Your nuture is the nape of your neck. That little bit in there. Never heard it. Another word, putid.

P-U-T-I-D. Putid or putid. Putid. Is it like I'm exhausted or something like that? No. Putid means decayed. Yeah, like wasted away. One more word Gleet

G-L-E-E-T Do you know what Gleet is? Gleet Like Is that the members Of like the Glee Club From Glee

The TV series No Aren't they Gleeks? Oh they're Gleeks Those are Gleeks Gleet Oh I should have Checked this one first

Gleet is Mucus discharge From the urethra Clint Gleet Thanks for that Well it the urethra. Clint. Gleet. Thanks for that. It might come up in Wordle.

You don't know. It's a five-letter word, man. It could come up any day now. Bree and Clint. Shanil Lal is the founder of the In-Conversion Therapy Movement here in New Zealand. Of course, this week we got the news that it will finally be banned once and for all. And Shanil joins us on the phone this afternoon. Kia ora, Shanil.

Kia ora. First of all, congratulations. Congratulations. Thank you. This is huge news, right? Yep, absolutely. It's been five years in the making and we're finally here. The queer community of New Zealand, if you missed it,

I don't know how you could have, it's been on every Instagram post and every Instagram story and every news story, achieved a huge milestone because you guys managed to get this archaic Instagram posts and every Instagram story and every news story achieved a huge milestone because you guys managed to get this archaic and stupid process of conversion therapy outlawed. I wanted to ask you, how common is conversion therapy still in New Zealand? We don't have a lot of stats, but one in six trans and non-binary people have experienced conversion therapy from a medical professional. Medical profession is probably where it happens the least. So you can only imagine what those numbers look

like in the religious community. You know, that's just the trans community. Gay men, lesbian women also experience conversion therapy. So we don't know every detail of how often it happens, but we know that it's very pervasive. Yeah. And really damaging, right? Yes. What we do know is that if a parent suggests conversion therapy to their child, it doubles the chances of that young person committing suicide. It is very damaging. That is a disturbing fact. That shakes me quite a lot hearing that.

Conversion therapy, the word itself, to me is misleading. The therapy part makes it sound less horrific than i imagine it actually is does the queer community have a different name for conversion therapy well the name conversion therapy just kind of happened uh initially it was called pray the gay away and but the queer community has not given it a name i've called it a state sanctioned torture in the past yeah and you and you say state-sanctioned, of course, the other meme that went absolutely viral this week was the picture of the eight National Party MPs that still voted

against banning conversion therapy. They were tagged in the picture, which I thought was a very good way of getting the message across. Have you heard anything from those MPs, including Simon Bridges, who said, no, we don't think it should be banned? Those MPs were first tagged and then they've removed the tag and they turned off tagging. So finally they've learned to use social media. Yeah, so they are aware that people are very upset

and they are aware of the things that people are saying about them and they are actively choosing not to engage and they're blocking people out. I think it's really ironic that they are shutting down anyone who disagrees with them because the premise of the argument is that banning conversion therapy will eliminate free speech, eliminate dialogue. But that's precisely what they are doing now. So I just call them a bunch of hypocrites. And I remember Simon Bridges when he was the leader of the National Party in 2019, turning up to Big Gay Hour, and he talked about the fact that National supported people's

right to inclusivity, diversity, and celebrating who people want to be, and yet he voted against this. How does that make you feel? I mean, I did not buy his speech for a moment. He is the same person who said that. I'm not really into homosexuality. And I was like, well, your heterosexualhood would be strange. So for starters, it was just a really odd thing for him to say.

And then he voted against marriage equality and voted against banning conversion therapy twice. And then finally, at third reading, he voted against it. I think anyone who believes Simon Bridges is really naive and silly. I've been quite honest that I do not want him to come back to pride again. Yeah, nor should he. I think it's important to not lose sight of the celebration part of this here because it's a victory and your community,

and you said this actually, all of New Zealand should celebrate this victory and we should. I saw the world is beginning to celebrate it because you, Shanil, have been featured by Vogue magazine. Yes, I was posted on Vogue's official Instagram account and I woke up and I thought, holy shit

what? And it's really strange because following the Vogue post, my Instagram account's activity had jumped so much, Instagram flagged my account for review because they think that I'm doing something suspicious. You're not one of those weird accounts that's giving away free iPhones, are you, Chanel?

I am not. And I haven't worn any either, so I'm very lucky. Chanel, you look fabulous on Vogue as well. Thank you. Hey, the whole country is proud of you and the queer community and what you have managed to achieve over the last months and years. So we had to get you on to celebrate. Congratulations once more.

That's Chanel Lull, the founder of End Conversion Therapy New Zealand. Thanks so much. Thank you. Hey, Matty, I haven't told you about this, but seeing as you're here, I want to play a new game with you. Fantastic. It's a game that I just invented.

Okay, great. I actually invented it in the shower this morning. I was like, that'd be a fun game to play with Matty. You know how competitive I am. Absolutely. We want to do this. Especially with this one, you won't want to lose this one.

So please welcome to the first ever edition of The Dilf Factor. New Zealand's latest game show all about celebrity dilfs. Great. A dilf, of course. Very attractive dad. Very attractive. And can I say, there's a lot of them out there. If you stroll down Ponsonby Road.

Yeah. They're just pushing their stroller along. Oh my God, so many. So many. So many. Yeah, right? Your challenge, Maddie McLean, is to tell us whether these celebrities are dilfs or they don't actually have any kids whatsoever.

Ah, okay. So there's no question that the celebrities you're about to hear are attractive. The question is, are they dads? Anastasia, please give Matty his first celebrity. Chris Pratt. Dilf. Dilf? Dilf.

I'm locking it in. He's got a son with Anna Faris. You're confident Chris Pratt is DILF. DILF? DILF. I'm locking it in. He's got a son with Anna Faris. You're confident Chris Pratt is a DILF? Oh, look at him. Oh. That's correct. Nailed it. Well done. You're one from one. Okay, good. We have five celebrities for you this afternoon.

Anastasia. I know my DILFs. Please give Maddie his second potential DILF. Channing Tatum. Oh. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Please give Maddie his second potential DILF. Channing Tatum. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Bit of a bachelor. Yeah, but he was married for a long time.

Jenna Dewan. Yeah. I'm going to say DILF. That's correct. He is. Yeah. Channing has at least one daughter. I know that for sure.

Okay, Maddie, you're two from two. Sorry, I'm getting very distracted by the photos you're putting up on the screen right now. That's magic, Mike. That's Pete Chan right there. I'm just going to put my chair underneath the desk a bit. The man claims to know his dilfs. Anastasia, please give Matty his third celebrity. Leonardo DiCaprio.

Oh, come on. No dilf. No dilf? No dilf. No kids for Leo? He's eternally just dating 20-year-old models. He's not having kids with them. Yeah, but he's never accidentally... No, I'm going to say no, Delph.

That's correct. That one was easy. I just wanted to lead you a little bit straight. Yeah, that was easy. I'm so good at this game. You're three from five. Let's see if you can get five from five. Anastasia, please give Maddie potential Delph number four.

Ryan Gosling. Oh, that is a good one. I know who he's with. He's with Eva Mendes. Yes. But do they have kids? Well, I need an answer. I'm going to say no DILF.

Incorrect. He's a DILF. No. Oh, no. I didn going to say no, Delph. Incorrect. He's a Delph. No! Oh, no. I didn't even know he was taken. I was shook by that. I did know he was taken, but I didn't think they had kids together. Can you imagine how hard it would be to go to school if your dad was Ryan Gosling?

And your mum was Eva Mendes. And your mum was Eva Mendes? God. I mean, you're probably not going to struggle through life, though, are you? That's the hardest thing ever, Delph. I think you're doing all right for yourself. Okay, let's see if you can go out going to struggle through life, though, are you? That's the hardest thing ever done. I think you're doing all right for yourself. Okay, let's see if you can go out on a win. Okay, please.

Anastasia, one more potential DILF for Maddie. Keanu Reeves. Keanu Reeves. If you're just joining us on the DILF Factor, the challenge is to identify whether these people have kids or not. There's no questioning that they're DILF, that they're hot, but do they have kids? I'm going to say Dilf.

Dilf. Dilf? He's old enough. No. He doesn't. He doesn't want kids. He's eternally. Well, I don't know if he's single.

He's not single, but yeah, yeah, yeah. Eternally kidless. Yeah. Well, you got three out of five, which means you're a Victoria in the inaugural. I'll take the win. I'll take the win. I'll take the win. I'm going to get voted back up on Channing Tatum. You're on the Channing Tatum back.

I'm going to be going to play this game again, actually. Anthony. Brie and Clint. Maddie's here filling in for Brie for a couple of weeks while she's off filming a new TV show. And you shared a bit of an awkward conundrum that you've got going on at the moment so well you know you know this better than anyone i'm a marriage celebrant yeah maddie married me and my wife lucy he's good marriage celebration yeah that makes it sound like we're not a thruple i was i officiated your wedding i didn't we added him in we legally added him no he was our celebrant i was in charge of paperwork, so who knows what I put on there.

As my dad said, you had that weather guy, eh? You had that weather guy do your one. He's not wrong. He's not wrong, no. We got a forecast for the wedding and we got a very good celebrant for the day. So someone's asked you to be a celebrant for their wedding.

Yeah, and I don't, you know, I mostly do it for people that I know. So I haven't turned it into a big business. I'm not out every weekend doing weddings, but I do love to have a stand at the wedding expo. No, definitely not. And I forgot to pay the bill of my website, so that got taken down quite a while ago.

Oh no. Yeah. Anyway, so I really only do it for friends or people that I know. And someone came up to me the other day and said, I've gotten engaged. Well, actually, I knew they'd gotten engaged, but they said, we're having our wedding, we're planning it, and we would love you to be the celebrant.

Good, great. The only thing is, this is a guy that I once had a little bit of a thing with. Yeah, okay. And so I'm fine with it. Enough time has passed. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I need to know. So the couple,

was it the guy who you had a thing with that asked you? Yes, correct. Or is he the partner? No, the guy I had the thing with. The guy you had the thing with is the one who asked you. Correct. Okay. Does the partner know that you and the guy had the thing with is the one who asked you? Correct. Does the partner know

that you and the guy had a thing? I don't know. Are you friends with the guy? No, I've never met the partner. Are you friends with the original guy? Yes, yes. You guys had a thing, a thing-a-fling. Long time ago. How long ago?

We were never an item. No. We never dated. No. Oh, we're talking eight, nine years ago, maybe. Right, okay. Oh. Yeah. Do you think, okay, so you need to know whether it's right for you to be the celebrant for this wedding or not.

Yeah, and so I'm wondering, you know, do people even get invited to an ex's wedding? Well, that's a great question. Do you think you would be invited to the wedding if you weren't the celebrant? Right. So it's not an invite for you and your partner, Ryan. I don't think we've gotten to official invite territory yet.

It was more just a would you be interested in doing this role? Yeah. What does your gut say? I mean, if he's asking me, you know, I'm fine with it. Yeah. We've both moved on. Clearly, he's happily engaged. Absolutely, yeah.

I'm very happy with my partner. We've been together for five years now. So plenty of time has passed that I'm fine with it. So I guess if he's fine with it, he's the one that's getting married. Yeah. So if he's fine with it, he's the one that's getting married. Yeah. So if he's fine with me standing there. Does part of you want to say to him though, does your partner know? Yeah.

Because I don't want him to find out on the day before. I think that's probably an important question that I need to follow up. Or the day after. Like imagine after the wedding they get married and then they go, how could you not tell me that the man marrying you totally you used to but at the moment i just went absolutely of course i will yeah and then it wasn't until afterwards that all of these thoughts started to come through my head and i went hang on is this okay should i be doing this i reckon we should put it out there i reckon we've got to crowdsource the answer for this please should maddie officiate

the wedding of one of his old flames? That's what it is, eh? That's exactly what it is. And maybe you've got experience in this. Maybe you've attended the wedding of an ex, and you're like, it's totally fine. Or maybe you attended the wedding of an ex, and you're like, do not go anywhere near it.

Please help us out. Yeah. Did your ex-girlfriend ask you to be the DJ? You know? We'd love to know At the core of it Do you have an opinion On what Maddie should do?

I think you go for it I think If anything It'll be drama It'll be a bit of fun Absolutely And don't we all Have a little bit of drama?

0800 dials at M Where you can text us What you think to 9696 Maddie's here Filling in for Brie For the next couple of weeks And we're just talking about an awkward situation you've got in your other role as a marriage celebrant currently.

I'm so busy. So multi-talented. Tell me about it. Yeah, I'm a celebrant. I officiated your wonderful wedding to your wife, Lucy. Yeah. And so I got asked to be a celebrant for someone that I know. I would consider them a friend,

but also someone that I once had a thing with. Yeah. Brief, very brief. Yeah. But we had a thing. We were romantically linked for a short period of time. And he's asked me to be a celebrant. God, you left your mark, didn't you?

Tell me about it. That person cannot get over you. Exactly. They're getting married to someone else and they still want you at the wedding. I'm thinking of that whole speak now or forever hold your peace. If I ask that and I'm like, oh, wait. I'm the guy with something to say.

What about me? So we put it out there. Is that the right thing for Matty to do? Should he go and be the celebrant at his old Flames wedding? We've got a fellow celebrant, someone from the community, has called up who wants to remain anonymous. Hello, Anonymous. Hi. You have

weirdly been in this situation as well. Weirdly been in the exact same situation. Wow. Okay, so tell me about it. Is this someone that you dated for a long time or is this like me, a very brief fling? Very, very exactly like you. Very brief fling. I'd say about three, four months, you know, on and off. Hadn't spoken

in about four or five years and then I just get this random call saying hey, I'm engaged exactly like you. I would love for you to be our celebrant. And I was like, oh yeah, okay. You know, like going through all the questions and like congratulations and everything like that. Then it came to that, are you going to charge me? And I gave them my usual, you know, flat fee because that's just what we do.

Yeah. And they were absolutely shocked. They were like, how dare you? Like, we've got history. Like, why would you not charge me less than that? And I mean, I'm not hot. Like I don't find myself fabulous. But when they said, how dare you?

Why would you not even charge me, like give me a 70 to 80% discount on your flat fee? I was shocked. And they were like, we can't have you like that. I'm so disappointed. They expected a discount from you because of a four or five month fling that happened years before.

And now they're engaged to somebody else. That is cheeky. If anything, you should be charging them more. That's what I thought. Is it someone that you stayed in touch with? Like after you guys finished your fling, between that and then being asked to officiate their wedding, had you guys maintained a friendly relationship? We maintained a friendly relationship.

We were like acquaintances, but we were kind. If we saw each other in the street, we'd be like, hey, how you going? You know, as you do. Totally. But yeah, it just turned for the worst, and I was absolutely shocked. So I sent in my message, and I was like,

just be careful that potentially you could go down that road, because it wasn't the first time that's happened to me. Yeah. I was like, oh, just be careful. So I wanted to say to you, Maddie, it's happened to me. Yeah. I was like, oh, just be careful. So I wanted to like say to you Maddie, like it's okay but be careful.

Okay, good. Wait, I'm assuming did you do the wedding at the end? No, no way.

It doesn't sound like it, no. Okay, thank you, anonymous, great story. Someone texted and we said like,

do you even go to your ex's wedding? Someone said, I went to my ex's wedding. He married my sister's best friend. Do it. You will feel so powerful. Because I guess it's the ultimate going,

yeah, I'm totally over this person. Totally fine. I'm so fine. Exactly. I'm so over you that I'll come to your wedding and I'll give you a present. Although, is it him going, huh, I'm the one getting married.

Oh my God, that's the other one. He's like, I'm so over you, I'm going to marry someone else in front of you. Exactly. And I'm going to make you do it. God, this stuff is complicated, isn't it? This is where we find out the number one song on your 16th birthday. We'll do it for three people and then the best one gets played out in full.

Here to play birthday banger first is Yaz. Hi, Yaz. Hey, Yaz. Hey. Hello. How are you going? How's your day been? Good, yeah.

A bit quieter than usual, but it was nice. A quiet Thursday is a nice way to be. She's gearing up for a massive Friday, that's why. Hey, Yaz, what's your birthday? 18th of Feb, 1996. All right, Yaz, you were 16 on the 18th of Feb, 2012, and this was your number one song. Wild song.

See, I heard you were a wild one. Banger. That's a good one. That's a really good one. Flo Rida and Sia. Does it bring back good 16-year-old memories for you? Yeah, it does, actually. Do you remember your 16th? Did you do something for your 16th birthday?

Oh, I was a bit of a nerd at school, so probably not. I probably just, you know, went to the movies with my friends. Yeah, nice. Yeah, yeah. Dreamy. That is actually exactly how I'd want to spend my birthday these days. Wait there, Yaz. We'll do a birthday banger for Scarlett.

Kia ora, Scarlett. Kia ora. How are you guys? Good. So good. How are you? Very well, thank you. Good.

Give us your birthday and we'll tell you what your birthday banger is. 23rd of March, 1995. All right, thank you. Good. Give us your birthday and we'll tell you what your birthday banger is. 23rd of March, 1995. All right, Scarlett. You were 16 on the 23rd of March, 2011, and this was your birthday banger. Whoa. Do you love it, Scarlett? Hi.

Oh, are you there? Yes, I think it's perfect. You think it's perfect? Yeah, good. It's a good one. Did you have the sunglasses with no lenses inside them? And the top with the fluoro print on it? That was me.

That was you, good. Bring back some memories. Yeah, good. Okay, let's get a birthday banger on for Scott. Kia ora, Scott. Hey, Scott. G'day, how you going? Good.

How are you doing? Oh, good, good. Beautiful day. Yeah, isn't it? Are you ready for this? I am. All right. I'm imagining a big blokey birthday banger for Scott.

I can hear it in his voice. When was your birthday? When were you born, Scott? The 19th of July, 1989. Okay, Scott. You were 16 on the 19th of July, 1989. Okay, Scott. You were 16 on the 19th of July, 2005 and this was

the number one hit. The Black Eyed Peas and Don't Fuck With My Heart. Do you love the Black Eyed Peas and Fergie, Scott? Yeah, no, they don't go too bad, eh? Yeah, right?

I reckon it's good. They did Friday Jams, our big festival, the last one that happened before COVID. They were amazing. So good. Yeah, they're so good live. They miss Fergie, though. Yeah.

The group is definitely missing Fergie. It's not the same. Okay, wait there, Scott. We need to decide. We've got Flo Rida and Sia. We've got LMFAO And we've got the Black Eyed Peas What do you think the winner of Birthday Banger is Matty?

I'm really good Yep I'm going I've been changing my mind But I'm locking in Wild Ones Are you? Yeah Oh because I'm locking in Black Eyed Peas

Okay that was the one I was tossing up between We'll go to a split vote And producer Ben will decide the winner of Birthday Banger today. Ben, what's it going to be? It's going to have to be Black Eyed Peas because we played Wild Ones recently. Okay. Very recently.

Fair call. Very good point. That means Scott. Yeah, winner. Winner, winner. Chicken dinner, my friend. Awesome guys, Tim. Congratulations.

Brian Clint, here's your birthday bagger From the Black Eyed Peas on ZM When something new comes out We have to stick it in our mouth In what we call It's time for another Brian Clint taste test We taste it so you don't have to.

No one likes sticking things in their mouth more than Matty McLean. So thank God you are here for this taste test today. You're so welcome. I'm doing God's honest work today. It's a well-travelled mouth, so it knows what it's doing. You might have seen these all over your social media feed today. The Fijoa lumps, like media feed today The Fijoa lumps Like pineapple lumps

With the Fijoa lumps This is totally hashtag non-sponsor You're about to get an honest review of these I say that as someone who loves a pineapple lump God I love a pineapple lump I don't mind a pineapple lump But I love Fijoa's Oh okay

Do you remember that Fijoa vodka That everyone was obsessed with for a while? Yes. 42 Below? Yeah, 42 Below. Do they still make 42 Below? I believe so. It was freaking everywhere.

Anyway, that's not what it's about. We're talking about Fijoha lumps. Are they any good? Did you try the peach lumps that they put out last year? No. They were quite good. There's still no pineapple lumps.

They don't have the juiciness of a pineapple lump. I still don't know why Pascal bring all this crap out and then don't bother bringing back snifters. Just bring back the snifters. Is that all you want? That's all I want. There's a snifters block, isn't there?

I don't need a Fijo or a pineapple lump. Just bring back the snifters. Can't you get the block with the snifters in it at the moment? Yeah, but I just want a 1997... Cardboard box of Sniffers. Exactly, like you're at the movies. Yeah, right. Well, I can't give you that.

I can give you a Fijoa lump, though. Okay. So, bon appetit. Cheers. Whack this in and see how it goes. Oh, instantly very Fijoa, eh? Like, straight away that tastes like Fijoa. I mean, it's going to be one of those things where you're either going to love it or you hate it

purely based on whether you like Fijoa's or not. They've absolutely nailed the Fijoa taste. You know how banana lollies don't taste like banana? And arguably pineapple lumps don't necessarily taste like pineapple. I feel bad for eating in front of the microphone. Oh yeah, people hate it when we eat on the microphone. Do you know what? I really like it. I think I prefer them to pineapple lumps so juicy how do they make them so juicy for a solid lolly

how are they always so juicy that i i'm i'm all for it okay what do you think clem yeah i love it i'm quite into that what passes the taste test How many stars out of five For a Fiji alum Look I'm gonna give it A four out of five I'm gonna give it A four out of five Well there you go Totally not sponsored but

But Very good Good luck finding yourself A bag of these Please Pascal Just bring back The bloody snifters No please Pascal

Send us a box of Fiji alums You know how much Advertising we just did Yeah You know how much Our boss is gonna Kick our ass for this We need us.

We need some product. Help. Clint's got a kid to put through college. Skinny dipping. Are you a skinny dipper? I've tried it once in my lifetime. Only once? Once, because I thought I need to give this a go.

With a group or by yourself? With a friend. With just one friend? Just one friend one free hand oh yeah late at night no one was on the beach platonic friend platonic friend female friend right yes okay so no no frisky business no frisky no no no i was long past that phase okay cool um i have done it with friends as well but also in frisky business situations. But I've never initiated it. I've never gone, we should go skinny dipping.

But has it always been an immediate, sure, let's do it? Yeah, because it's usually after a few drinks. Yeah, of course. So there's not much convincing that needs to happen. I think I'm like you. I'm not a huge skinny, I'm not anti it, but it's not a pastime of mine. There's been a list released from a website called Outphoria. Read into that what you want.

They've listed the best and worst countries that you can go skinny dipping. Yeah, see, maybe this is the thing. Two degrees of separation in New Zealand. I would be so terrified that someone would walk along the beach and be like, Matty! Someone's mum? Exactly. Someone that you know. Okay, so the be like, Matty! Someone's mum? Exactly. Someone that you know.

Okay, so the number one, well, let's start with number three. The number three country to go skinny dipping in with 422 nudist beaches and 95 nudist campsites is Spain. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. Although Spain, full of beautiful people. Very hot people. Do you want to go and skinny dip in Spain? Well, maybe you've spent some time in Spain and you've already got a tan.

Right. So everyone looks better with a tan. Or you've done what you do and just go and get a spray on. You point fingers at me. I asked for the same spray tan you got on Celebrity Treasure Island. Thank you very much. Call me out for my spray tan On your first bloody day here I'm getting bald

Number two The second best country to go skinny dipping in Is America They've got 299 nudist beaches 253 nudist campsites Wow And an average annual temperature of Oh it's an

Oh what? An average temperature of 8.6 degrees Celsius no you can't be doing that it's not conducive to skinny dipping you cannot be doing that in an average water temperature of 16 degrees Celsius

oh okay and the number one country to go skinny dipping in apparently according to Outphoria France

they have the most nudist beaches and the most nudist camps of anywhere so they're very pro nudnudity in France. Very liberal. Yeah, true. Very liberal.

True. Yeah. They're all about freeing the net. Yeah, and smoking everywhere as well. So the French love a skinny dip. The worst places to go skinny dipping, China, Russia, Iran, Estonia, Turkey, Belarus. Because you'd literally be killed Or frozen to death

One of the two I think There you go Factor that into your travel When the border opens everybody If you like skinny dipping I mean if you like Going swimming with your togs on Well just waste it baby

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