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Hello, welcome to the Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley podcast. Thanks to McCaffey. Great barista main coffee on the go.
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Well, just a quick stumble, but I think as you'll see,
I was a broadcasting professional.
I really pulled that back.
You really did.
Yeah, thank you.
It was almost unnoticeable.
Had we not highlighted it.
Thank you.
Crazy ep coming up.
We're split across the globe.
Yeah, you're off to the bake-off now?
Yeah, I'm off to bake-off, so I'm broadcasting from home,
but I'm healthy as all hell.
But Vorney, schniffles.
Yeah, schniffles schmidt.
When you say healthy as all hell,
is that because you're not eating the baking goodies every day?
I am eating the baking goodies every day.
So I'm filming The Great Kiwi Bake-Off at the moment.
I've learnt, though, because season one, holy moly,
I ate like everything of everything.
And then at the end,
I nearly needed to check into a rehab facility for sugar.
But now I'm a little bit more picky choosy.
But there is, so on Bake Off, there's like some downtime
because sometimes the bakes are like four hours,
five hours even sometimes.
And you don't need to be in there the whole time.
So we've got this little cottage that we hang out in,
me and my co-star Pax
and the two judges, Peter and Jordan.
And I thought I'd help pass the time
and I taught them Monopoly Deal.
Do you guys play Monopoly Deal?
So we've got a pack of Monopoly Deal
and we've never played it.
But given that the Smiths are embarking
on a seven day lockdown,
I'm thinking we should definitely take this up.
It is so good.
It's like quick Monopoly, but you play with cards.
Oh, yeah.
It's really, really, really fast.
But you know that thing when you're like,
hey, guys, I've brought in a game.
I'll teach you how to play it.
And then we were like, great, let's do it.
Let's get into the games.
We played three games, and I won all three of them.
And now I just sort of feel like, one,
it wasn't entertaining for anyone,
and two, probably they just don't like me anymore.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
As someone that has been taught a game, it's the sweet, sweet moment
where they finally beat you that is going to be like,
you've got to keep smashing them.
It's like when you first beat your parents at sport.
Remember when you were a kid and you'd play cricket and your dad would,
like, crack it and just be like, go get that.
And then you finally one day you crack him over the fence.
And it's a great feeling.
You've just got to keep absolutely slamming them
so that when they do finally beat you, it's such a great feeling.
It was supposed to be a light, fun way to pass the time.
And now they're sort of, oh, you won again.
I mean, I have had practice at sort of, you know, flipping houses before.
So maybe that's what's helping me.
You are a monopolistic landlord, yes.
I am.
Anyway, I'm going to bring in another game.
I reckon Scrabble.
I'm pretty good at the old Scrab.
Oh, yeah.
See, this is going to end in tears.
Take in, what's that game that you're not allowed to play anymore, Vaughn?
Cranium.
Cranium.
Yeah, take in Cranium.
No, we've got two more weeks left of shooting.
I don't want any murders on my hands.
There would be a killing.
Thank you, Rachel.
Good morning.
Welcome to the show.
Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.
Three minutes past six with Hayley broadcasting from home again
as she hosts the great baking, Cooking and Key Show.
The Great Kiwi Antique Show.
That'd be fun.
That would be.
The Antique Biscuits Program.
Yeah, very old bickies.
You're just down the road from the set,
so you're broadcasting from home.
But Vaughan, you're broadcasting from home
because you have the vid.
I do.
I have the novel coronavirus.
God.
Of course, first established as one that you simply must have
in Wuhan, China in December 2019.
It's taken this long.
You've got a fancy American strand, though, don't you?
Yes, I've got the Disney brand,
which I can't pass on to you or I will face copyright.
You have to actually go to Disneyland to get this one.
I've got to subscribe to it.
Oh, you've got Disney Plus Coronavirus.
Yeah, that's cool.
Lots of content there, but not quite the whole in-park experience.
It certainly made you sound a lot, your voice sounds a lot deeper this morning.
Sexy is the word you're looking for.
Sexy is the word I was reluctant to say, Hayley.
Yes.
Whenever I get, well, that's a trip straight to HR for you, Mr. Fletcher.
I'll take the compliment from Hayley, but you're not as attractive,
so that means it's sexual harassment.
What was I going to say?
Oh, I always think about that when I get sick.
I'm like, man, why can't my voice sound like this all the time?
Yeah.
Do you always sing? I always jump in the bathroom I get sick. I'm like, man, why can't my voice sound like this all the time? Yeah. Do you always sing?
I always jump in, like, the bathroom or something and sing, like,
You're gonna fast go.
Like, so we're running around.
So your dream is to be Tracy Chapman.
Yeah.
Tracy Chapman went sick.
I do the Halo theme song, that real choir, that.
And then shower.
It feels good.
Okay.
Coming up on the show, more free fuel this morning.
Our retro petrol time machine at 8 o'clock.
Listen out for the activator.
The top six on the way.
Embarrassing for the Prime Minister and all the journalists following her
as she meets the President today.
Well, yeah, they're dropping like flies with COVID.
But also the plane broke down and it's stuck
in the roof. Again.
COVID.
Is that COVID? Yes, it is.
It's a laughing.
It's a dangerous combination of laughter and COVID.
Our plane broke
down.
God, we're so budget-y.
I like to imagine
it just landed like a backfiring car.
It was like...
Like, poked in, and then the door's stuck.
Someone has to pry it open.
Door opens, and then she's like,
G'day, guys, it's the New Zealand contingent.
We're here to meet Joe Boyden.
And in the background, they've got Lion in the Gutter playing.
And when the door
comes open
a Swap-a-Crate bottle
bounces down the stairs.
Oh, sorry.
Such a New Zealand arrival.
But given that
that's broken down
I've got the top six ways
for Jacinda
and the press delegation
to get around
to future events.
Alright, next on the show
parents have admitted
to doing something
in secret.
I don't think it's so secret.
Vaughan was like, I do this.
We 100% do it daily.
If I was a parent, I'd 100% do this too.
Play.
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Well, a study's been done in
the United Kingdom
into parents...
How very professional of you to address it by its full title.
Well, I am half British.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain, Scotland, Wales,
and the northern part of Ireland have commissioned a study.
Yes.
And it's found that basically parents feel that homework now is too hard
and they are turning to home assistants like Alexa, Google Home, all those ones for help.
Yeah, absolutely.
I get asked questions that we watch the news when we have dinner every night.
And if there's a question I don't have an answer for, I'm like, ask Alexa.
And where she sits at the dinner table, she just turns her head and is like, hey, Alexa, and asks.
It's great.
Does Alexa always have the answer?
Sometimes she'll be like, this is what I found on the web. And I'm like, remember, Alexa, and asks. It's great. Does Alexa always have the answer? Sometimes she'll be like, this is what I found on the web.
And I'm like, remember, Google it after dinner.
No, because you can't.
I remember when I was at high school,
you're not allowed to use Wikipedia as a reference.
But what now?
Do you just cite your source?
Yeah, I guess so.
Alexa.
Alexa, 2022, location, dinner table.
Yeah.
Well, more than two-thirds of parents have turned to Alexa
or Google Home to ask about their children's...
Alexa's talking shush because we said her name.
Shush, you'll wake the children, Alexa.
Oh, gosh, she is hopping on.
Oh, yeah, she's...
Shall I see what I asked her?
Because I don't know what she's telling me.
No, just tell her to shush.
Just say, Alexa, off.
Alexa, turn off.
Alexa, you're getting a little bit lippy.
Also, with the parents polled,
children aged between 6 to 13 found almost...
They all used assistants to help with their homework.
Three-quarters claim schoolwork...
These are parents.
Three-quarters claim schoolwork is more difficult
than when they were in the education system.
Probably more difficult because they had to like
find it in a book if they didn't know the answer.
At least when I was at school,
not school, but when I was at high school,
we had beautiful Wikipedia.
And then you used to sort of,
I used to, yeah.
We had, so we had Encarta 95. Encarta 95. Oh, yes. beautiful Wikipedia. And then you used to sort of... Jesus, did you? Yeah, we used to...
So we had Encarta 95.
Encarta 95.
Oh, yes.
But teachers knew everybody would hand in an assignment on Mars
and it was just literally copy and pasted out of Encarta.
You had to get clever.
You had to use your thesaurus there.
Yeah.
We used to, when you had to source your, you know,
put at the bottom your source of...
What is it called?
You had to APA, IPA, IPA is the beer, isn't it?
Yeah, gorgeous.
I love it.
APA also a beer.
Yeah, an American parallel.
Yeah, you used to have to put your sources at the end of your essays and stuff.
And then obviously like everything was Wikipedia.
So you'd just make up sources and be like www.crazyinfoaboutfrance.com.
And the teacher was never checking that.
They went paying $2.50 an hour.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the birth of misinformation
and how to spread it effectively.
Started by Queen Margaret College in Wellington by 1H Sproul.
So also, and I don't know if you feel this, Vaughan,
but two-thirds of parents say they felt embarrassed
for not knowing the right answer in front of their children.
No, you should never be embarrassed for not knowing the answer.
You never stop learning, do you?
You just Google it.
Well, some people definitely do.
Some people are like, I know everything I need to know.
I won't adapt.
Bless them.
They're horrible, horrible close-minded folk.
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Netflix is listening, apparently.
Not that creepy listening where, like, you Google listening
or you're Facebook listening.
And they're like, no, it's an algorithm on your friends,
but they've been Googling.
Yeah, no one believes that.
You're listening.
Netflix have said they've heard from multiple people about,
you know, at the start of an episode,
if you're watching a series, it gets to episode eight,
and it'll be like previously on,
I'm just going to use Ozark as an example,
as I finished Ozark yesterday.
Oh, how good.
Phenomenal show, by the way, if you've not watched that.
It's all done now.
You'll be able to absolutely binge it.
But they'll be previously on Ozark,
and they'll recap a character you haven't seen for six episodes.
Yeah.
Or something that happened in episode two and you're on episode eight and you're like, well, now I bloody well know that character's coming back.
Yeah.
And then when they show up, you're like, well, that's not a surprise.
I hate that.
Yeah, I hate that. Yeah, because you're like, otherwise, why would they remind us of that storyline?
Yeah.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Refreshing on that.
And they've um it will be
able to be disabled oh that's good yeah like autoplay is on that sort of thing is disabled
so you can sort of like you just go from the top of the air yeah by default you can skip the
previously ons because it makes sense because like there's nothing better than watching a show that
you're like okay i've got a hang of it and then some old watching a show that you're like, okay, I've got a hang of it, and then some old character comes back
and you're like, what?
Them?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's the twist and it, you know, the main point of the show.
But it's spoiled for you.
Is it Netflix that gives you the option at the start of a new season
to skip the recap?
If that's, sometimes they'll do a recap of their own little episode
and it's like
when it says skip titles,
it'll say skip recap.
Yeah, right.
If you're just binging it
and you obviously
don't need to recap
because you've watched
a whole season
in about six hours.
Yeah, but if it's been
a year between seasons,
sometimes that recap's good
and you want it.
And episodically,
it was like
when we used to watch,
for example,
Lost or Prison Break in the mid-2000s week to week.
Yeah.
There was so much weird shit happening that it was good to have that recap at the start of the weekly episodics.
But if you're just absolutely just lining up shows and just binging them as quick as you can, I don't think you need the recap as much. You can go into manage profiles
and change
the recaps and the
automatically play next episodes and stuff.
Oh, fantastic. Stop
spoiling the show for yourself.
I might also turn that on because often I'll
fall asleep and it'll
just keep going and I'll wake up three
episodes later and not being able to
remember where I was. Yeah, me too.
They need a function that, or
maybe a camera on your TV that if it
notices your eyes close, that it just
pauses. Yes, because they do have
that one where it's like, are you still watching?
Just to remind you what a piece of
crap you are that day because you've been watching
10 episodes and it's like, surely she's still not
here. Surely someone needs to get up
and do something. Go get up and stand
for 10 minutes. But yeah, something that like a camera
that sees that your eyes are closed and like
shh, shh, shh. Yeah, but then what else
is that camera going to be watching, you know?
It'll be seeing that you're drinking
Coke and it'll start pushing Pepsi.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Alright, 19 past 6
next on the show. Well, physios
they've been seeing an increase in a particular injury.
Apparently.
So physiotherapists around the world have been saying
they've been seeing an increase in a particular silly,
kind of embarrassing injury.
Is it necks? Is it a neck injury because we're down on our phones like this, hunched over?
Very close.
It's a thumb injury from being on our phones so much.
So because since COVID hit, we've been using our phones at least 50% or more, more often
than we usually do.
We're just sitting, they call it doom scrolling.
So bad.
Oh my God, oh my God, the world, doom scrolling.
And apparently it's seen a huge increase in thumb injuries.
People going to pain clinics, physiotherapists,
everything for having sore thumbs
from scrolling too much on their phones.
And one physiotherapist chimed in saying,
this is because the tendons around the thumb
are working in an abnormal way.
So, you know, like,
when you think about functional movement,
like if you work out at the gym,
you're like, oh, these are actually things,
like pulling up, like we actually do that.
And then you have movements that you go,
I will never, ever replicate this.
This movement with your thumb, the scroll, is abnormal.
It didn't exist.
Like, there was no need for our thumb to move in an up-down action.
What about counting money?
What about counting, you know, at the bank, how they count the money?
They go...
Yeah, but that's more sort of down and round like that.
This is just that straight up, up, down.
Yeah, you really wouldn't do that for anything, would you?
There's no use for it other than like...
This is how I do nipple play.
Oh, just the thumbs.
Have we not been doing this for millions of years?
Thank God people...
You're too aggressive.
Thank God the listeners can't see the Zoom screen right now, Vaughan.
No way.
You've got to get cancelled for something.
It might as well be nipple play.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's coming for all of us.
So apparently it's not a normal movement that we make.
It's causing irritation, inflammation, aggravation to the tendons around the thumb
because they're moving in a strange way.
Irritation to the joint itself.
It can even lead to things like arthritis.
Or if you've got arthritis in that joint
it can make it even worse
people are injuring their thumbs from being
too scrawny. Only fine
weren't we all meant to have padded tennis thighs
or like oval thumbs by now
weren't they saying that was the thing
the first time I heard that was in the
90s when video games
like there was you know the first Playstation
controllers yeah
everybody's playing too many video games our thumbs are was, you know, the first PlayStation and... Controllers. Yeah.
Everybody's playing too many video games. Our thumbs are going to be like pads. Give me a break.
Hasn't happened, has it?
Well, they say that
it's good news that
if you injure your thumb from scrolling
too much, it shouldn't be permanent.
If you get a little bit of treatment, a little bit of physio.
This is coming from a physio, though, so I have a feeling...
This is like when you're all better and the physio's like,
come back and remember to keep doing your stretches.
You're like, no, I will immediately stop doing stretches the second I leave here.
Nobody does the stretches.
Re-aggravate this injury in a couple of months' time.
And then come back and claim, much like I tell the dentist I floss,
come back and claim that I've still been doing the stretches.
Yeah, absolutely.
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From the self-driving ZM think tank, this is the top six.
What should I do with my lozenge?
I don't know, but you just chose the worst time to stick it in your mouth.
When I was lozenging at home with COVID,
I just put it on a little piece of paper on the desk.
I'm going to balance it on the handle of my coffee cup.
And then you always lick your fingers.
Yeah.
Is that a manuka?
Are you going a manuka lozenge or have you gone a strepsil?
No, no, no.
These ones.
Oh, these ones are called butter menthols.
They're a yuck.
I know those.
A Vicks Vapor drug.
You need to get a manuka honey.
Get some of that goodness in your throat.
I'm more than willing to do COVID influencing too
if anybody wants to send me lozenges.
I know those Manuka honey ones you're talking about though.
Those are legit lozenges.
Yeah, you could become the Simone Anderson
of the COVID influencing world.
COVID influencing.
Yeah, that's actually a great idea.
Pay partnership with Lemsip.
Yeah, hashtag gifted.
But that's not today's top six.
Today's top six is looking at our broken down Harkery plane.
If you currently Google Jacinda Ardern, it goes Jacinda Ardern net worth.
This is like autocomplete.
Like, what do you want to Google about Jacinda Ardern?
Yeah.
Jacinda Ardern net worth.
Jacinda Ardern Harvard speech.
Jacinda Ardern plane.
So it's plane that we click on to tell you that our press contingent,
which is in the U.S., on the Prime Minister's U.S. trip,
has broken down in Washington.
Great, though, because when they finally decide to spend
hundreds of millions of dollars on a new plane,
the press can't bitch about it because they were the ones
that were stuck in Washington on a broken plane.
Do you know what?
Mike Hoskins isn't on that plane, so I'm pretty sure he'll be bitching about it because they were the ones that were stuck in Washington on a broken plane. Do you know what?
Mike Hoskins isn't on that plane so I'm pretty sure
he'll be bitching about it.
Yeah, true.
So it's one of two
RNZAF Boeings.
This Boeing was nicknamed
Old Faithful Betty.
Has been anything but
because of its breakdowns
in the past.
Aren't they like 30 years old?
Oh God, they're older
and we buy all of our
military stuff secondhand, right?
Very rarely do we get something brand new off the production line.
I think we bought them off an airline, an airline in Europe or something.
We thrifted them.
We bought a secondhand.
It's so embarrassing.
So I found a story.
I think it's charming.
I think it's got a wicked New Zealand charm about it.
Our plane's broken down.
Yeah.
Can we just leave it here while it gets fixed?
But Mexico have a brand new plane that they don't use.
We could get that one.
Yeah.
Because they spent $200 million on a new plane
and then the new president got elected and he's like,
oh, we don't spend money on things like that,
so he doesn't use it.
And now they rent it out for parties.
And there might be some coke in the cargo hold.
Oh, yeah.
That is very naughty to say.
But she can bring it back and sell it,
and that can fund the gas for the next trip internationally.
Perfect.
Okay, so what you're saying is we should fund our Air Force with drugs.
Drugs.
Cocaine, yeah.
Legalise drugs and all the drugs and use all the tax revenue garnered off the drugs
to buy things that will assist the country.
It's just smart.
It's a wild plan, but I think it might work.
I've got the top six ways for Jacinda and the press delegation
to get around given that our plane's broken down.
Number six, a hot air balloon.
I'm not talking about one of those ones you see
at balloons over the Waikato, though.
I'm talking about like a blimp.
Oh, okay, cute.
Could you imagine that, though, hovering into the White House lawn?
Yeah, it's a bit slow, isn't it?
Because they've got to let the air, the gas, don't they,
and then turn it off?
No, no, no, no, not a blimp.
There's no gas, gas, and a blimp.
It's constantly, you know, like a Hindenburg.
Yeah.
Oh, God, that'll end in disaster.
Yeah.
I mean, you loop on. It's like a tug down? Yeah. Oh, God, that'll end in disaster. Yeah. I mean, you loop on.
It's like a tugboat.
Yeah.
And then you just pull it in.
We can't lose Jason Walls in a blimp accident.
Oh, my God.
He's my hero of the press gallery.
Is he?
Is he your favourite in the press gallery?
Well, he's in my top five.
Oh, my God, you've got a top five faves in the press gallery?
From all the COVID
we've seen. Tova's not in there anymore. Tova's not in there.
Tova's out. Tova's out.
Jessica? Jessica goes first
now. Jessica always goes first.
And then Jason and then Henry. Henry
Cook. Yeah. Yep. Who else
rounds out your top five press conference?
Well, there's Derek's always in there.
Derek. Derek? Who does he
work for? He's the Herald. Yeah, he's the Herald.
He's from the Herald.
And is it Audrey?
She's always in there.
She asks the hard questions.
You're just naming names now.
Cassie's in there as well.
Cassie's my favourite.
Sure.
Jeremiah does well.
Well, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
I don't think he was a press reporter.
He's a very good friend of mine, though.
He had a lot of good wine, and I'd like to help him drink that wine.
Why did you continue that dad joke?
I don't know.
Ailey, naughty.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Never regret a chain dad joke.
Number five on the list of the top six ways to put Jacinda in the press delegation.
Get around.
Submarine.
How rad would that be?
I don't know.
Washington, D.C.'s landlocked, Vaughn.
I don't know if you can get a submarine in to meet the president.
What's the closest? What's the closest? I thought Washington, Dughn. I don't know if you can get a submarine in to meet the president. What's the closest?
What's the closest?
I thought Washington, D.C. had a port.
No, they've got that pond out the front, though.
There's a pond, yeah.
Imagine, how did it get there?
It pops up in that memorial thing that they have in Forrest Gump.
Yeah, the Pond of Remembrance, I think they call it.
Also, you are wrong.
It's not landlocked.
You can totally...
I'm looking at a map now.
You can... It's like... Yeah, look, it's not landlocked. You can totally... I'm looking at a map now. You can...
It's like...
Yeah, look, it's not going to be an easy journey.
You've got to go in down by Newport.
Is that...
Newport is in...
You can't...
Yeah, no, you can see the ocean in the background.
I don't know if you can get into there on a submarine.
Baltimore's got a massive...
I only know this because of season two of The Wire,
which was focused primarily
around Baltimore Port, but it's even
further up that harbour. Oh my god, I thought it was
further in. Oh yeah,
okay, well I apologise.
Famously, you've got a
problem where you always think it's further in.
Sheep is
you too.
Yeah, die. Die for that
inappropriate joke.
Number four on the list of the top six ways
for Jacinda and the press delegation to get around.
Steam train.
I don't think we do like a modern train.
I want an old school steam
locomotive. Okay. Number three
on the list. I'll start getting through them now.
It feels like it's dragging on.
Number three, sail ship.
Okay. Well, as we know, it's not landlock Number three, sail ship. Okay.
Well, as we know, it's not landlocked,
so they could get in to meet the president.
They could totally get in there.
We know this now, yeah.
Sort of a replica of the Endeavour, maybe.
Yeah, for sure.
You know, for that real authentic feel,
one of the more traditional Pacific Island,
I'm thinking Moana.
Yeah, nice.
Moana, where she gets the ships,
you know, the fleet out there again.
Number two on the list of the top six ways for Jacinda and the Press delegation to get around.
A Holden Commodore wagon or a Ford Falcon wagon.
Very Kiwi.
Very Kiwi, very reliable.
Those things went forever and those back seats were absolutely massive.
And number one on the list of the top six ways for Jacinda and the Breast delegation to get around,
a Rocket Labs rocket.
Yes.
A very homegrown Rocket Labs.
Why don't they make a rad rocket that can just blast off here and land wherever I believe in them.
They're capable.
They can totally do it.
That is today's top six.
We're joined on the phone by a man who's about to embark on a road trip across this lovely country of ours, Sir John Koo, and good morning.
Morning, how are we doing?
Good, thank you.
Good, so what's happening on this road trip?
You're a mental health ambassador.
You're trying to help Kiwis deal with it and everything.
So what's happening on the road trip?
Yeah, this is actually to promote and raise money
for our curriculum-based school programme called Mighty,
which we created a few years ago.
So Mighty is sort of a fresh approach
to teaching mental health education to our kids at school,
to our tamariki.
So, you know, what we wanted to be able to do
is give our kids, you know,
the sort of IQ and EQ of mental health
and give them all the tools for what this world throws at them.
I totally like, they've started teaching financial literacy at school,
which is something that was never taught
and people have to deal with every single day.
I can say I have used Pythagoras' theory once or twice,
but probably not as often as I will have used, you know,
something to try to see where I'm at,
a sort of a self-reflection on my own mental health.
So, yeah, of course, why shouldn't this be taught in schools?
Well, that's right.
And look, our suicide rate is one of the worst in the OCD,
and that's exactly our goal.
You know, we want to have the best mental health in the world.
And if we want to do that, you're dead right.
It needs to be taught like a subject, you know, English, maths, and science.
Because like you say, financial literacy is fine,
but you're also going to need something to deal with what this world throws at our kids.
And if we're going to do that, then for us it's most important
to be able to have a curriculum-based programme.
See, what we studied, we facilitated for one year, right?
And what we wanted to be able to talk about was
if our mental health's not that good in the country,
what do we need to do differently?
Three things came out.
We need to teach our kids at primary school,
because the stats say that by the time they get to secondary school,
they're going to need these tools.
The second thing is don't put any additional pressure on the schools,
like financially or human resource-wise.
And the third thing is it needs to be co-designed
because what might work in Vakagal or Mangere or Otara
might not work in Rumerera or Northland.
So, you know, we send a coach in, we co-design it,
and, yeah, we're getting some fantastic response.
At the moment, we're in, you know, in 70 schools
and working with 12,000 kids.
And eventually, we've got 300 schools on the waiting list,
and we want to get to all schools, which is 1,200 in New Zealand.
Yeah, I mean, the time is definitely now, isn't it, John?
Because, I mean, there's the idea that our children
are at greater risk of mental health issues now,
being on social media, having such access to the internet
and everything that they're dealing with at the moment.
COVID, they went through that.
We didn't have to go through that as kids.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, you know, and I'm way older than you guys,
but, like, when, you know, when I didn't get invited to a party, it didn't really matter, you know, and I'm way older than you guys, but like when, you know, I didn't get invited to a party, didn't really matter. You know what I mean? I found out on Monday, I didn't get any TikTok sent to me or, you know, success for me was a Morrie 1000 van and I paid my dad off with interest. But, you know, nowadays, everyone's beautiful, the pressure, social pressure on our kids. Also the information overload. We get more inputs in one day
than our grandparents had in a lifetime.
So I think technology and society pressures
have really overtaken everyone actually,
but we need to teach our kids how they can deal with that.
So that's what the tour's about.
We're starting next month.
We're driving through the country
and we're raising money to
continue our work.
Is there a precedent?
Has this been done anywhere in the world, John?
Where it's like officially worked into school curriculum
and the results are
positive at the other end of it?
Yeah, it's a really good question.
When we're facilitating, we look all around
the world for programs
and a lot of the programs are outstanding.
There are outstanding programs around the world,
but not a lot of them are curriculum-based.
And a lot of the programs, the people go in, upskill the kids,
and then go out.
But this needs to be taught every single day.
It needs to be intertwined into the school's curriculum.
So, you know, that's what we wanted to do.
We commissioned the Auckland University
to actually build a curriculum around this. It was based on a Māori model called the
Mana Model. And so that's what we've done.
So is the hope of this that young people have the ability to articulate their feelings better,
talk about mental health more, and have the intelligence to recognise it?
Is that the sort of dream?
Well, you want a job?
You want a job?
Exactly.
You nailed it.
I'm not very honest with you, too.
I left high school in 2007.
We never learned anything like this.
And my family learnt the hard way how to deal with mental health, unfortunately.
Exactly, and so did I.
I wish I had had this when I was younger.
And so you did, right? That's exactly what we want to do. We want to teach the kids
how to recognise and understand their feelings. Then we want them to have the tools and the
ability to deal with those things. And we believe that if we do that, then they'll be able to start
dealing with the things that life does throw at them and we'll have a better rate around our mental health.
So that's exactly what we're trying to teach.
But I keep coming back to this.
It needs to be curriculum-based.
It needs to be something that gets taught every single day.
And that's what we're seeing.
The 70 schools that we're in are really getting some fantastic results.
It's amazing.
To get behind it, you can text MIGHTY, M-I-T-T-E-Y, to 2449.
It donates $3.
Or head to themightydrive.org to get behind it.
Sir John Kirwan, thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us this morning.
I appreciate your support. Thank you very much.
Play ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. Play ZM. taking the time to talk to us this morning. I appreciate Little Pole. Silly Little Pole. Silly Little Pole.
Today's Silly Little Pole is looking at ice cream.
Do you chew your ice cream?
As in, like, do you bite it?
You know, every now and then you'll see a list and it's like,
these were the star signs of cereal pillars.
And it's like, Ted Bundy was a Capricorn.
I don't know if he was,
but you know that list
and it's all like,
oh, there's no Sagittarius
on the list.
This should be the true test
for cereal pillars.
Why do they chew
their ice cream?
100% the Zodiac Killer
and Ted Bundy
bite into ice blocks.
I mean,
do we mean chew it
as in like...
I thought you meant chew.
I'll bite an ice block.
That's the same thing, right?
We're talking about ice cream.
If you've got an ice cream in a cone, for example, or in a bowl,
do you, like, lick it?
Or do you, like, bite it?
Well, ice cream in a cone, lick.
But ice cream on a spoon, you've got to bite it off.
Nothing's worse than a grown adult having a spoon of ice cream going...
No, but you don't bite it.
You just kind of...
You lip it.
You lip it.
You lip it off.
Yeah, close it off with your lips and then...
And then once it's in your mouth,
there's no more mastication.
There's no more chewing.
No, you swirl it around until it melts, right?
Yeah, yeah, it melts in your mouth and then you swallow it.
Yeah, but then some people, they chew it.
Oh, once it's in your mouth?
Yeah.
Okay, no, I'm jumping.
I'm majority, not minority.
I thought you meant, because when I have an ice cream,
I don't lick an ice cream.
I am Majora, not Menorah.
I don't lick an ice cream.
I munch an ice cream.
Now, I will munch a Memphis Meltdown.
No, but that's a nice block.
But it's not. It's an ice cream but that's a nice block. Yeah, right.
It's an ice cream in the form of a block.
Ice cream stick.
It's an ice cream stick.
I'll plate those.
Okay, so we've got some messages in.
Hannah says,
the only thing more sensitive than me is my teeth.
That's it.
It does hurt the teeth.
Totally, feeling that.
Feeling that, Hannah.
Alicia asks the good question,
how do you even chew ice cream?
We could ask Producer Jared as he is an ice cream chef.
This is where this started from, Producer Jared.
You chew ice cream.
Yeah, so like I have a bowl of ice cream.
I put some ice cream on the teaspoon and I put the teaspoon on my mouth
and then I go...
There's nothing to it.
Why don't you just swirl it around your mouth
So that it melts
Well what if there's like a little bit of goody gumdrop jelly
That could get stuck in my throat
No no no
You're adding clauses
As a rule
Obviously you can't just suck down a jube
You've got to chew that
Well you can wear down a jube
You can absolutely wear down the jube
You've got to invest in time.
As a child, sometimes I would spit the jube back onto the spoon
and save them all for the end.
Same, same.
That's gross.
If my children did that now, I would absolutely let them have it.
But as a child, it was one of my favourite things.
You would have got a hiding for that in the 90s, surely.
I had to do it very subtly.
If they've got crunchy bits.
Crunchy bits like bickies or gold rush things.
And even those, I'll kind of mush them around with my tongue.
And the ice cream.
I don't like biting when there's cold.
Do you chew soup, Jared?
Are you a soup chewer or a yogurt chewer?
Yeah, yogurt and soup both get a courtesy chew.
God, it's weird.
Is this a South African thing?
I don't know.
I don't think so. Jared, if it does anything no one else does, it automatically becomes a South African thing? I don't know. I don't think so.
If Jared ever does anything no one else does,
it automatically becomes a South African thing, by the way.
Someone called Jalen's messaging saying it does.
It depends on the flavour.
If there's chewy bits, then yeah, you've got to chew it.
Otherwise, no, just lick the damn thing.
Yeah, but then you're chewing the thing.
You're not chewing the ice cream, are you?
You're chewing the...
Yeah, you're chewing it once the ice cream's dissolved
and you've swallowed it.
Josh says, sometimes I chew it if I've been a bit gobble guts
and put too much in my mouth at once.
No, Joshy gobble guts.
Oh, Josh.
Eyes bigger than his stomach.
Yeah.
Matt says, I absolutely cannot watch someone bite into ice cream.
Ice blocks are even worse.
Just thinking about it puts a tingle down my spine.
Yeah.
See, I'll suck on an ice block to get the flavour out,
but then once the flavour's out and it's kind of lost its integrity,
I'll bite it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But see, do you bite it or do you kind of like,
I bend it so that it just snaps off.
I don't put my teeth through it.
I've got an ice block in the freezer. I could go and really give you a. I don't put my teeth through it. I've got a nice block in the freezer.
I could go and really give you a,
I don't know what I'd do.
I don't know if we've got time
to watch you gob an ice cream.
Our final message is from a Yarrid,
I think, Yarrid pick stock,
saying only legends do this.
Soup and yogurt get a courtesy cheer as well.
He stands by his son.
He does stand by his examples.
Alright, our silly little poll.
Next on the show, what it means
if you go to festivals,
it's actually good for your health?
No, it's not.
At the moment, is it? Because I just went to a festival
and I can tell you my health is on
the decline. Okay, COVID aside,
why it's good to go to a large gathering,
we'll tell you next.
Imagine Dragons.
ZM.
ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
But a study has found that mass gatherings, like festivals,
are good for us.
Now, this does not mention anything about the pandemic.
Yeah. Like, they're not good for you. Now, this does not mention anything about the pandemic. Yeah.
Like, they're not good for you in terms of when there's a pandemic
because you could get COVID and be sick.
Well, that, yeah, because I've avoided COVID for two and a half years,
but just got it at a festival, the first festival I've been to.
What do you reckon was worse, Vaughan, for you,
knowing how
you love big groups?
What was worse, going there
and getting COVID or going there and just being
surrounded by thousands of
strangers? Well, once I
had a lorazepam, which
relaxed me significantly regarding
my social anxieties about crowds.
Yeah, but the COVID thing, like people, that many people,
people had to have COVID.
And Americans just don't.
Like masks, there was nothing.
There was no social distancing or anything.
But I was wearing like a, what are they, KN95s?
Masks the whole time.
Gorgeous.
Snug fit, everything.
But, you know, that's life.
It didn't work.
I knew it was a risk.
I knew it was a risk.
Well, studies found that people that went to, like, you know, it's life. I knew it was a risk. Well, studies found that
people that went to festivals
and had a great time, they felt
more connected with all of humanity
and were more willing to help distant
strangers. This is me.
This is absolutely me. When I'm in
large crowds, I do have this
feeling of being like,
he tangata, he tangata, he tangata.
That's how I feel. I'm always like, the people, man. But I thrive off of being like, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata. Like, that's how I feel. I'm always like,
it's the people, man.
Yeah.
But I thrive off of
being surrounded by
bodies and people.
Yeah, but even I think, like,
you're there for a common cause, right?
Yeah.
Like, the Star Wars celebration
I went to,
like, people that went on stage,
like Jon Favreau,
who did The Mandalorian,
said the cool thing about this
is look around,
every single person here loves the same
thing you do. Yeah.
And you do feel like part of a big
thing and there was like this
there was no, I didn't see any aggro in there
when we were walking, we were walking from
the convention centre down to Disneyland
for the Star Wars night and everybody
had their Star Wars lanyards and
they were in some Star Wars t-shirts and this guy
coming the other way was a grumpy dad
and he didn't like move out of the way
and I like banged him into him with my shoulder.
I was like, oh, sorry about that.
And he turned around and like went crazy.
Can't you walk in an effing line?
Everybody else was like,
everybody that was like walking
towards the Star Wars thing was like,
hey man, calm down, relax.
We're all here to have a good time.
Get into the vibe.
You bonded.
Do you reckon he gave you COVID?
Do you reckon that was you COVID? Maybe.
Do you reckon that was the connection?
That could have been.
So, yeah, things like festivals, pilgrimages, ceremonies
make people feel more bonded with their own group.
And, yeah, they make you...
A pilgrimage.
You basically did a Star Wars pilgrimage, didn't you?
If you make it to the end of it,
because in my mind a pilgrimage happened in the 1800s
where everyone had typhoid and was dropping flies
and bears would just take some of the people on the journey.
So a pilgrimage to me is if you make it to the end,
you are significantly bonded with these people
because you're the survivors that made it.
Yeah, you've been in the trenches together.
It's like going to war.
Yeah.
That would be, yeah.
An unbreakable bond.
Yeah.
I mean, is there anything to do with the fact that, you know,
most of the time at festivals people are all...
Pinging?
...have a little bit of help to find a deep connection.
I love you, man.
I'll never forget this moment.
Maybe a bit of that as well, sure.
Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. So there's been so many conversations recently Maybe a bit of that as well, sure.
So there's been so many conversations recently about our supermarket duopoly and how basically for as long as that continues,
the cost of food is going to stay pretty high
because we don't have any other choices.
Well, yeah, they're making like a million dollars a day, aren't they,
the two supermarket companies?
Absolutely.
I mean, we do have choices.
There's your Faroes, your Boriches,
but, you know, you have to have like a million dollars
to shop at those.
Sure.
Well, apparently, and so there's the big news
that Costco is on its way, very close to us.
But do they, they do a lot of the bulk stuff
because I've been to a Costco,
but do they don't, fruit and veg and stuff in your staples?
I think they do, like, everything.
Right.
Well, the government this week announcing that they're acting on
a lot of the Commerce Commission's findings, aren't they?
Yes, they are.
So they're going to make it easier for new players to come into –
players sounds wrong, doesn't it?
To enter our market.
Yeah, well, basically new players in the monopoly game.
I'd be keen for sort of a player-based supermarket.
But not a player.
They're playing sort of like 90s rap on the supermarket.
The supermarket for the players.
Right.
Yeah.
Couple of 40s, couple of 40s, exclusively 40 apps.
Yeah, you get a membership.
You've got to prove that you're a player
and then you can go and buy cheap bananas.
Well, now it's not only Costco that might be,
well, is coming to New Zealand.
There's rumours that Aldi could be joining.
German?
Grant Robertson was, yes, German-based,
but very popular in the UK and Australia has them as well.
I've seen them in Australia when I've been there
and I feel like, is it also people rave about them online
like they do Costco and they've got weird things there?
Like it's supermarket stuff, but then you can also buy like a paddling pool or something.
Is that right?
Yes.
That is so British.
It's like a Kmart meets a supermarket.
You can buy like clothes sometimes.
But cheap though, eh?
Really, really cheap.
And so because of our situation with our supermarkets,
Aldi have been making noises about wanting to come over.
Obviously, this would be like a little bit down the track.
They've got to build a massive building and all that kind of stuff.
But Grant Robertson was talking about it
and he said that they could be one of the players,
one of the players that are looking at the New Zealand market.
Right.
Well, Andy's called through.
Andy, from the UK, you use Audi all the time.
Yes.
Hello.
I'm there about once a week doing my shopping.
Right.
So they've got everything a normal supermarket has,
but what else do they have?
So it's everything your normal place has got
and then the knockoff discount brands
about half the price but then in the middle they sell the greatest selection of rubbish you could
ever want so in the same aisle you can buy like a canoe a circular saw a pizza oven some harry potter
bedding wait a canoe? The middle aisle?
The middle, the middle.
Is that the famous middle aisle?
That's the thing, right?
Yeah, they literally call it the Isle of Aldi.
The Isle of Aldi.
Oh, wow. I want a circular
saw and a canoe and a Harry Potter
immediately.
It's madness.
You can pick up such weird things.
You get to the checkout,
you look like you're planning some grand expedition somewhere.
Well, yeah, especially when you've got a canoe and a Harry Potter duvet.
Milk, sugar, eggs, butter, bread, canoe, Harry Potter duvet.
So are they, in the UK, are they like the cheapest supermarket?
Because I've been to the UK before and it's very,
it's all cheap to me when you go to the supermarket. Tes it's very, it's all cheap to me. Which are Tesco's
Sainsbury's as the two biggies?
They're about half as expensive
as anywhere else so they really are
undercutting the market and they're killing
it right now with the cost of living rise so
that's why we go there all the time
and you know, you never know when you're going to need a patio
heater so it's always worth going to look for one.
You never know.
Pick up a patio heater, a chainsaw always worth going to look for one. You never know. Pick up a patio
heater, a chainsaw, 18
cans of spray paint
and you're away for the night. What a great time.
Oh yeah. Do they have a booze?
No, carry on.
I was going to say there's a knock-off booze
as well, so you can get all your alcohol
but discount brands instead.
So it's twice as strong with half the flavour.
I don't know if they're going to let that fly. Twice as strong with half the flavour. I don't know if they're going to let that fly.
Twice as strong with half the flavour!
I don't know if they're going to let...
That's how I like my booze.
They're not going to let that fly
here in New Zealand.
No.
We've got too many booze stores as it is.
They're not going to let Audi
come in with a...
Maybe we won't have the booze
but do they have a bougie section?
You know how some supermarkets
have that sort of organics,
bougie aisle?
Do they rock in there?
Yeah, they've got some herbal, organic-y stuff,
but it all depends on what they've got in stock in the week.
You can always pick up your vitamins and nutrients there.
They've got a really decent knockoff Barocca that works quite well.
Oh, a knockoff.
Now, Vaughan, how would you...
Vaughan, you do a Barocca.
You do a Barocca every morning. Would you do a knockoff Barocca? Itn, how would you, Vaughn, you do a Barocca. You do a Barocca every morning.
Would you do a knockoff Barocca?
It really depends. I'm pretty OG, but if
it was okay,
I probably would. Okay, well they're half the
price. Amazing. Andy, thank you so much
for sharing the Aldi.
It's Aldi. Do you say Aldi or
Aldi? We say Aldi,
but, you know. Aldi.
I googled it. I googled it and it said it's Aldi. Aldi. So say Aldi but you know. Aldi. I googled it.
I googled it and it said it's Aldi.
Aldi. So you're wrong but
it don't matter because you're charmed.
Brilliant. Andy,
thank you for sharing and yeah, hopefully
we get another supermarket chain.
In 2021, Aldi's
revenue was $21.1
billion US dollars.
They've got 11,000 stores around the world.
Nice, just to support a nice small family business.
In 2001, Aldi Limited was incorporated in New Zealand.
The company did not expect to open any stores in the near future
when they were asked in 2019.
Oh, I was going to trademark the name before they came
and then sell it to them like extortion-wise.
They got you.
But then in America, have you heard of Trader Joe's?
Yes.
Yes.
That's just Aldi.
That's just a rebranded Aldi.
Because you know how Americans don't trust anything
that doesn't sound like it's a down-to-home product.
Trader Joe's.
Sure.
Play ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley.
I feel like I'm going to ruin everyone's day with this story.
This is a wild story.
As a young woman who has an older brother,
this makes me so embarrassed.
It amazes me the lengths people will go to
just to get a big TikTok video.
Like, don't share this stuff.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, this is a silent shame that you just hope your close group of friends
never finds out about because you will be relentlessly tormented.
This is not worth two million views on TikTok
and the whole world knowing this.
Okay, if you don't like cringy material, I don't know.
Just turn us off. I know that I shouldn't promote us. No, you don't like cringy material, I don't know. Just turn us off.
I know that I shouldn't promote us turning us off.
No, you don't say that.
Just say...
This is a bad story.
Just say stick through the story.
Okay, yeah, dig your toes in.
We'll get through this together.
So there is a young woman in the UK.
Her name is Kendra.
And she works as an exotic dancer in a strip club.
She's also an OnlyFans.
She does a number of things.
Very comfortable, loves her job as a stripper.
And she was working a bachelor party at da club.
And, of course, there's lots of lights and, you know.
A bit dark.
It's really dark and there's a spotlight in her face and everything.
And it wasn't until she had taken off all her clothes and was as naked as the day she was born
that she noticed that the bachelor was her brother.
Was her...
Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
Sibling.
Like, what do you know?
Your brother's getting married and, like...
No, so this is the thing.
I know, but this is the thing.
I mean, yes, you'd know that.
But people get married all the time.
She'd probably do bachelor parties every single weekend.
Yeah.
And everyone was going, like, how did you not notice?
How did you not notice?
But there's, like, a video, and it is so dark,
and there's, like, blue and green and pink lights and stuff,
but they're very subtle and
like a club. It's club lighting.
Yeah. Because everyone
was like why didn't the brother say like stop
or like. Did he not
notice either? No.
So he didn't know that this was, I mean I don't
know if he even knew that his sister was an exotic
dancer. Also I'm guessing everyone
would have been quite drunk at this stage.
That's the stag do part where
everyone's quite trollied. The general
vibe. Still, I think you'd sober
up pretty quickly, wouldn't you? Very.
And I'm not, it's
not like sort of in a bra and
undies, like she was, it
was gone. All the clothes were gone. Okay,
so, and then they were like, stop,
that's my sister.
Yeah, well they both sort of realised and she just kind of ran away.
I know, I was like, wouldn't you notice your brother's friends
and be like, hey, there's that guy.
But I guess with the lights and it happened so quick
and she just came out and she was like, wow, okay, so.
I know, the debate, everyone's like, why didn't he notice?
Why, why did it get this far?
It's gone viral, obviously, online.
She shared her experience on TikTok.
But she said, like, when you're working and you're dancing like that,
you're just kind of in work mode.
You're like almost in autopilot.
Like, I know my routine.
I deliver that.
I'm not really connecting with the guy as much as maybe you hope
that they do connect with you.
Yeah, people are just absolutely mortified by this oh my god that's horrible this is like that time um i was out for dinner with my mother
in law and my wife and in hamilton and um my mother-in-law said oh now so-and-so's daughter's
just started dancing down the road we should go and say hello and we walked in there was a cover
charge i was like what and we walked upstairs and we went a cover charge, I was like, what?
And we walked upstairs and we went around the corner
and they're like, there she is,
and she was like topless on the stage in her undies
and my mother-in-law's like, hi!
She's like, no, no, no!
Yeah, so that happened.
You went to a club with your mother-in-law?
And it was boobies, yeah.
Oh, my God.
And she knew the boobieslaw. And it was boobies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. And she knew the boobies,
and she'd known the boobies since they were like a little...
Oh, my God.
No, that's not cool.
That was weird.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with strip clubs.
Oh, no.
Of course not.
But it's just the family element of it, eh?
It's like you don't want your dad to be there.
Oh, anyway. Maybe dad would be good to be there. Oh, anyway.
Maybe dad would be good to have there, though.
But what if dad was like pay-up chumps, like going around saying,
Oh, my God, like a proud dad?
No.
That's my girl.
Yeah.
That's my baby.
You put away that $5 and you get out a $20.
Yeah, exactly.
That could be handy.
So incredibly awkward.
And I just want to know if there's any more stories like this out there
where perhaps your sibling has shown up at just the worst time
or you've bumped into them in a moment where you're like, oh, that's...
I don't know if we're going to get the kind of level of story we've just said.
I know, but you just never know, I guess.
Yeah.
But there surely be times when someone's gone on a date
and maybe they've gone back to someone's flat
and they've not realised it's also their brother's flat.
Oh, yeah.
You know, and then...
It's their flat, mate.
Yeah.
I'm going home.
I don't know if we're going to find this kind of level of awkward story.
Let's just say I love to just start a Wednesday
just feeling like my skin is crawling off
and I don't want to go outside.
All right.
Well, 0800DARZATAM, give us a call.
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When have you bumped into a sibling at the worst possible time?
Play ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley.
Play ZM.
I regret doing this.
I'm seeing some of the messages coming in
and I don't want to talk about it anymore.
We want to know when you've bumped into your sibling
at the worst possible moment.
Yes, this was on the back of an exotic dancer in the UK
was working a bachelor's party.
And as the lights sort of cleared,
she realised the bachelor was her very own brother.
But too late, she was already butt naked.
Too late for all parties involved.
Incredibly awkward. I don't know
how the family's going to move forward from this.
Nicola, when did you run into a sibling
at the worst possible time?
So, I had been doing
some online dating
and had been casually seeing this guy for a wee
while. Okay. And probably
about a week. Like, nothing serious.
But there'd been some indoor gardening and, you know,
they're there. Anyway, I got a puppy,
lost interest, about a year later started dating.
Can I just hold on
for a moment, if I might, because
this is the second time I've heard this phrase
indoor gardening in the last, like,
ten days. I know what it is.
I know what it is. Okay, Hayley will explain
it to me off here. Everybody knows what it is.
Everybody knows. Anywho. But why as a
society have we settled on indoor gardening?
Because you're kind of bushwhacking.
You're whacking through the weeds.
Wait.
No, because then that...
Wait, so hold on.
Wait, so nobody's trimming their pubes anymore?
Is this what's happening?
Isn't that what it is?
Is it maintenance?
Are pubes out of control post-pandemic?
Probably.
I don't mind.
I don't know what's going on with everyone else.
Okay, so you're indoor gardening with this guy you've been seeing.
Just, like, really casual.
It's probably maximum about a week.
And anyway, so I get a puppy and I lose interest.
So about a year later, I started dating this guy quite seriously.
And it just happened, he said,
you know, I'd really like you to meet my family.
And I was like, oh, this is so lovely.
Now, during the indoor gardening experience,
the little casual times,
the guy had had like an apartment
below his parents' apartment.
And I had met his mom, which was, she was a delight.
And anyway, so the serious guy April Fool's Day I thought this was the ultimate April Fool's joke he pulls up to the same house
and I'm like surely surely not I'm like this is the best I'm like this is the best April joke
and like honestly this could not get any better I'm like you are one classy act, this is the best April joke. I'm like, honestly, this could not get any better.
I'm like, you are one classy act bait.
This is good research.
And yeah, he introduces me to his family.
And I think his dad's comments at the end of the evening was probably the best.
He's like, well, and he gave me a kiss on the cheek.
And he's like, well, now you've kissed all of us.
So it was his brother's house.
Wow. Did they not look good? I'd met his brother. house Wow Did they not look
I met his brother
I met his mum
Did they not look
Did they look the same
Not at all
Not at all
Oh wow
So you just had no idea
If I had the same surname
I should have maybe
Picked up something there
Wow
Who had the better garden?
Who had the better
agapanthers?
It was a wee while ago. We're talking at least
a bit of a decade and a half ago now.
I wouldn't know now.
Well, amazing. Alright, we'll keep your texts coming in.
Your calls, 0800 DALES at
M9696.
When did you bump into a sibling at the worst possible moment?
We'll get to more of those next.
Some wild stories coming in.
I hate this.
Just sharing horrendous stories about when you've bumped into your sibling at the wrong time.
Some of which I believe, Vaughan, we will not be taking to air.
No, no.
But there's a story from the UK of an exotic dancer
who was working a bachelor's party,
and the bachelor, surprise, it's your brother.
And then she admits this online, like, just...
And now we're talking about it in New Zealand.
Yeah, like the other side of the world.
If it's a smallish town, you'd know your brother was having a stag do.
You'd think so, right?
A certain amount of things.
You'd be like, I might take Saturday off.
Anonymous joins us.
Anonymous, when did you run into a sibling at the worst time?
Hello, is this me?
Yes, it is, yes.
Oh, my God, hi.
Hi.
Hi, Anonymous.
So me and my boyfriend at the time,
who's no longer my boyfriend,
sort of lived quite far away from each other.
And he was due to come over,
shared his time that he was about to arrive.
So I was like, I'm going to spice things up, you know, surprise him.
So I bought a bit of a six-wing outfit
to put on to greet him at the door.
Okay.
So I do that.
I'm like, okay, he's arriving in like a minute.
This is exciting.
I'm nervous.
I'm all ready.
And this costume didn't cover much at all
so the doorbell rings i've got my axe ready and i open it and it's my dad and my brother
you always do the little piece you're gonna have a little peeping hole
yeah but i'm not tall enough to do that. You're tall enough to see through the pee-pee hole? No. Oh, no. The whole outfit was a peep hole.
How tall is a peep hole?
I've got two problems with this.
I've got two problems with this.
Who has a pee-pee hole so high in the door
that not even a child can see through the pee-pee hole?
No, but the thing is, I'm not even five foot.
Right, so you might need a little, like, plastic hippo
that kids have to brush your teeth.
Yeah.
I feel like that would ruin my whole aesthetic I was going for, though.
It's not a sexy look, is it,
to greet someone with a plastic purple hippo step.
So what did the brother and sister say?
The brother and dad say, rather.
They just screamed and turned around,
and then my boyfriend at the time arrived right behind them.
This is why you never turn up to anyone's house unannounced.
Yeah, I know.
And then my brother just turned to him and was like,
I think this is for you, mate.
And they both drove off.
And my dad didn't look at me for a very long time.
I love that story.
I love that story so much.
That's also a great thing to say when you give your daughter away
at a wedding to you walking down the aisle and then you're like,
I think this is for you, mate.
Anonymous, thank you for sharing that incredible story.
Some more messages in.
So many wild stories.
Some of them we cannot repeat on air.
Did you send the text about the lockjaw?
Do I want to?
Well, let's just say the lockjaw, it wasn't traditional lockjaw,
which I thought was locked open.
It was lock drawer locked shut.
And a sibling was called for assistance.
Yeah, right.
That may need a pod outro maybe.
That could be a special.
Actually, there's a few of these that could definitely be podcast only
at the end of the podcast situations.
Yeah.
Oh, my God, so many.
This happened to me.
I was dancing, paying my way through uni.
One night, saw my dad and a few of his mates front and centre.
No.
Makeup, wigs and lighting helps hide your face,
but I quit after that night,
and I couldn't look at my dad in the eye at our next family event.
I don't know if dad...
But also, dad didn't acknowledge.
Dad didn't acknowledge.
Maybe dad didn't...
I mean, you know your own kids, right?
Oh, my God.
You'd know them anywhere.
Oh, yeah, that's awkward.
You notice their birthmarks, everything about them.
Funny, my daughter's got the same birthmark in Nisga'a
as this exotic dancer.
Christine?
A friend of mine was driving through town with his friend
and they said, wow, that chick's pretty hot.
And as they got closer, everybody was like,
hey, isn't that your sister?
Well, today's show broadcasting all over the place.
Hayley, you're filming
Bake Off today,
so you're from home.
Vaughn, you're from home
because you now have COVID.
I do.
I have COVID-19.
Mate.
I don't know what strain I've got, though.
I think this is definitely more of an ommie
than adults. Like, I'm very light
on symptoms. Have you got your smell
and taste? Yes.
It's dull. It's dulled somewhat,
but I can still smell and taste.
So, yeah, I don't know
what that means for what strain it is.
Would you have been on, because yesterday's news alert popped up
with the deaths, which were like, what, 27?
I know.
Was that a couple of days?
Maybe.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, because there were like 8,000 cases yesterday,
and we're just kind of in that, well, I mean, because I've had it,
I'm just kind of ignoring it and pretending it's gone away now
like most of the world.
That's what it takes to be a sensible, functioning member of society, I mean, because I've had it, I'm just kind of ignoring it and pretending it's gone away now like most of the world.
That's what it takes to be a sensible, functioning member of society.
Ignore all problems that aren't yours anymore.
Yeah.
Thoughts and prayers.
I don't know if my numbers, I might be in today's numbers.
Yeah, thoughts and prayers for Fletch.
Keep them in your prayers.
Oh, God, thank you for that.
A lot of messages on Instagram.
Well, it's good.
They're not working, are they for that. I've met a lot of messages on Instagram. Well, it's good. We're healing you from the inside with the Lord.
Yeah, somebody sent me thoughts and prayers.
I said, keep those for Fletch. And they said, okay, I've just redirected my thoughts and prayers to Fletch.
Yeah, go for it, go for it.
So I appreciate that.
He needs all the help he can get.
It's like when you move house, you've got to redirect on your mail for six months.
Yeah, I will be automatically redirecting my thoughts and prayers to Fletch. Right.
But you're a bit sniffly. Just for ongoing
deviance. You're a bit sniffly?
Yeah.
I haven't been coughing. I haven't been
sneezing. I've got like a tight throat.
Blocked nose. Headaches.
But I'm just like slamming.
What are those things called? Panadols. Paracetamols.
Whatever they are. Yeah, right.
I'm not endorsing any specific brand of headache pills.
Well, just a generic brand, Panadol.
Absolutely.
I've opened the gates today.
I will be a COVID influencer.
I'm more than willing to peddle your cold and flu products.
Right.
You're willing to do some cough syrup?
Put your name to a cough syrup?
I love cough syrup.
At the moment, I love Irish moss, but I'm more than willing for money.
You know what I had before, and it's real yuck.
I don't want their money.
Robitussin.
Oh, do you not like that?
I like a Robitussin.
No.
It's the only flavour we've got.
I've always seen.
I'll see what flavour it is.
Hold on.
Yeah, there should be an RTD that is like the yum.
Robitussin and vodka.
Yes.
Come on, Smirnoff.
I don't know if Smirnoff Soda,
who are sponsoring our Bangers Bingo Tour,
would be open to that.
Maybe we'll just make it to go on.
You could be also open.
I've got the yellow one.
I've got the yellow Robitussin.
What's the yellow one?
I don't know.
It doesn't look like it.
Maybe the pink one.
Oh, raspberry flavour.
Oh, yum.
Why is raspberry in a yellow box?
Come on, Robitussin.
Do I have to think of everything?
Well, don't slag them off because you could be an influencer for them.
And you could also do lozenges.
You could influence lozenges.
Oh, yeah.
I'm big on a honey lozenge.
If anyone's got any honey lozenges.
Right.
I'm big on a honey lozenge.
I'm more than willing to influence anyone.
But I have put up my little stick there, my
rat, which went black real
quick. Real quick. I had a big
thick red line straight away.
I did a time lapse
yesterday and somebody who deals with these
said to me that looks like a day three
or day four. I said well funny because
a day ago I was in Los Angeles and tested
negative.
But I don't believe I caught it on the plane
because I did a bit of reading and not my own research.
I let the actual scientists do the research.
And it takes a few days to nest to really get into you.
So I will have caught it when I was at the super crowded Disneyland
or Star Wars convention.
Yeah, no, you wouldn't have caught it off the plane.
Because you landed and it was there.
Yeah, you were wearing a mask too all Totally. All the time at Disneyland too.
And then you do this thing, you're like, where did I get it?
And you start running through.
Like there was times where I had an iced coffee
and I would like drink from it and then just hold it.
And I thought someone might have walked past and drippled it.
But I mean, I count myself very lucky.
Was it the Jabba the Hutt layer themed orgy you went to?
Maybe.
Not possible.
I kept my mask on the entire time.
Oh, okay.
And also, they had the full costume.
The upstairs mask and the downstairs mask.
Oh, I always masked up downstairs.
That's just my rule throughout life.
Yeah.
Right, okay.
But I've been hearing from people who have significantly worse symptoms.
So I'm not going to be one of those people that gets COVID and then says,
oh, it was no worse than the common cold
because people are dying from it
and everybody's experience with it is completely different.
Well, and the long term because I hear from so many friends as well
because like me, I still can't do cardio.
Like even walking up a hill the other day,
I was just like, my chest got all tight.
And that's nearly three months later.
So yeah, there's a lot of people.
When are you going to stop blaming COVID, Fletch?
And just admit it.
You're unfit.
You're unfit and you're old.
Lazy and old.
No, but even like people of all ages and all fitness types as well.
No.
And people that like just have chronic fatigue and like sleep 14 hours
and then still feel shit.
It's like, yeah, a lot of people going through some horrible times at the moment.
So, it's certainly something to be taken seriously.
And, of course, you unpacked your Star Wars nerd stuff last night,
all your lightsabers at home.
Does your wife know how much money you spent on those?
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Business expense?
Well, let's just say it was a few episodes of Have You Been Paying Attention really came in handy
for lightsaber spending.
Right.
So that's in an account that someone doesn't see.
But were we talking about something else completely?
I think we were talking about something else.
Oh, my.
Is Sade in the background?
She's still in bed.
If you missed it, we actually talked to,
sorry, at the end of last week, Ewan McGregor about Obi-Wan Kenobi, He's still in bed. If you missed it, we actually talked to yesterday,
sorry, the end of last week, Ewan McGregor,
about Obi-Wan Kenobi, which is the six-part streaming event.
It's now streaming only on Disney+. It's so good.
The first two episodes are out.
We're due another episode this week.
I'm a Star Wars fan and I love it,
but if you're just Ewan McGregor, you will love it
because it's very Ewan heavy.
And it's just such a good series.
I'm loving it.
ZM's Fletchvorn and Hayley.
The Mighty Jetstar have done some research.
I guess they're looking into flight habits post-pandemic now that everything's changed, the way that we're...
Well, you may not know this, Hayley,
but our very own executive, Anna, is a Club Jetstar member,
I believe.
Oh, la, la.
Yeah, she's very posh.
I actually have had to say farewell to the Club Jetstar membership.
Oh, no, lapsed membership.
Why have you let your membership lapse?
Wow.
You were one of their most ardent vocal supporters.
I was.
No, well, I got a mortgage,
and now I can't be flitting to Christchurch for $49, you know?
Of course.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I'm not a Club Jetstar member.
You're not going to get a club into city.
Do they do a club into city?
Oh, yeah, that's class. I able to get a club into city. Do they do a club into city? Mmm. Oh yeah, that's class. I don't want a
club into city. Then you could go down to
Christchurch for $12. But it
would take me 18 days.
It's very scenic.
Very scenic. Beautiful though. Great way to see the country.
And boy, what a country it is.
Well, they were looking at
how our
travel habits have changed post-pandemic.
And one of their biggest findings was that the majority of us are booking our tickets close, really close to our date of travel.
Which is wild to me because it's only more expensive.
I know, but how many times have you set up a trip six months in advance now and been disappointed every single time when it gets cancelled?
So people are just going like, let's just wait and see.
Like say we want to go away in three weeks time.
Let's just wait and see and make sure everything's going to be okay
before we book.
Most people now are booking even five days out.
Oh, wow.
For domestic travel, by the way.
I guess if you get COVID, you've got to stay at home.
Exactly.
And then I guess if you don't have the insurances or you don't get the right flights, you just lose that money.
Yeah.
The most spontaneous travellers are under 35.
We're reckless.
Yeah.
I guess.
With 58% having booked a last minute trip in the last 12 months within two days of travelling.
And they also looked at, like, how much we're desperate to travel and what we would give up in exchange for free flights.
67% of people claimed they would be willing to give up chocolate.
68% giving up takeaways.
Wait, for a free flight where?
Because if it was to London...
To your dream destination.
OK, so far away London
for example, how long would you have to give up chocolate
for? Ever? One month. One month
would be the time period.
No takeaways for a month, no chocolate for a month.
Oh, I know, only 60 seconds. Well, so they're not in my
lounge. They're not going to see me eat
the chocolate. I know.
I'll just tell Jetstar I didn't eat any.
I mean, if they did measure this,
I'd have to install cameras.
You'd have to eat chocolate in the shower.
That's a bit creepy, yeah.
48% of Gen Zers say they value travel over social media.
So they'd get rid of travel.
They only travel for social media.
That is absolute horse nonsense.
Yeah, because when they travel, they go to Bali,
they go to the swing, and they're like, hey.
I know none of them ever take any photos for social media
when they go on holiday.
I want to go to Bali and walk on that plane wing
that goes over the cliff.
Have you seen that video?
No.
No?
Yeah, there's one of those.
Sounds terrible.
I am going to Bali soon.
Well, you should do that.
But you've got to get a drone, so it looks really cool.
How do I sort of go, like, I'm going to Bali soon,
but I'm going with friends.
How do I, like, get the photos I want,
but, like, you know, make it seem like it's not for the gram?
I don't know.
It's impossible.
It's for the gram.
Yeah.
North Islanders are apparently,
we're more likely to organise a trip with a less than two weeks notice.
Okay.
And the South Island is slightly less.
They tend to be somewhat more cautious.
But even this, get this,
47% of people give up caffeine for a month
in exchange for free flights.
42% of people would give up having sex.
Sexifies.
I'd rather give up having sex
because,
like,
I don't get a headache
when I don't do that.
But if I stop drinking
coffee for a day,
I start getting
a throbbing headache.
I know,
but I love that people
are like,
oh my God,
giving up sex
for a month.
Oh my God,
no,
I'm like,
how often are we
supposed to be doing this?
Yeah.
How long have you guys
been in relationships for?
I was checking
with everybody.
Play.
ZDM's Fletchvorn and Hayley.
Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. I just feel like I don't have COVID when I'm singing, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
It really makes your voice whole, doesn't it?
Yeah, it does.
It's like the illness doesn't exist.
Again, thoughts and prayers to you, Fletch.
My inbox on Instagram is just full of people that are like thoughts and prayers.
I don't need them.
They're rubbish.
Keep them coming.
I can actually hear the Lord in your voice now.
All of the Lords.
All of them.
The lot.
Well, I do have COVID-19, as most of the world has had by now.
But today's fact of the day is can I give, well, I looked into,
can I give COVID to my animals?
Oh, yeah.
There's been a lot of talk about that, right?
Like, can you even pet your animals?
I'm running a menagerie here.
Yeah, I remember that from really early on in the pandemic, eh?
People were like, dogs are getting it.
Yeah.
Well, maybe there was tigers.
There was, like, zoo creatures.
That's right.
Because there were zookeepers who got COVID
who just had to go to work
because the animals needed to be looked after
and they were the...
It was kind of, if you're the least sick,
you get in there and the zoos were shut.
It doesn't mean the animals just fend for themselves,
although that would be a great reality show, I think.
It's wild, eh, that we've put animals to a point
where they cannot fend for themselves
yeah just open the doors and see what happens um so i looked into it and it was a canadian
government website that um i found regarding if i can give animals um covid so farmed animals
there's no uh evidence so far to show that like my cows or my goats could get COVID from it.
However, mink could give COVID to other minks and to people.
Do you remember when the Danish...
Yes.
They culled all of them.
Mass culling of mink.
Yeah.
So what about companion animals?
Cats.
Yes, you can give COVID to cats.
And cats can give COVID to other cats but not to other humans.
Will the cats get sick?
Like, will they get really sick?
Did Major Murray Fluffington catch COVID from you?
No, I don't think he did.
I think maybe Rodley's had COVID before but not from us.
Got it from the neighbours.
Because he's sneezy.
He's a sneezy boy.
Yeah, right.
Dogs apparently can't.
Okay.
Ferrets can spread COVID to other ferrets.
And hamsters can get COVID spread to other hamsters
and possibly to other people.
There's more research needed.
I mean, that's on you for owning a hamster.
Honestly, it's 2022.
Is it hamsters you can't get in New Zealand?
Or is it hamsters you can't, but guinea pigs you can in New Zealand.
We're guinea pig people.
What about wildlife?
If you're out in the bush with COVID and you sneeze on a beaver, for example.
Sneeze on a beaver.
We've all sneezed on a...
It's a lifelong wish to sneeze on a beaver.
Of course.
If you sneeze on a Eurasian beaver, it can get COVID and it can give it to other beavers.
A Eurasian beaver?
A Eurasian beaver.
That's the European Asian beaver.
That's not your North American beaver.
The mink, the American mink, you can give that.
Gorillas, yes.
If you were up in the foothills of Kenya
visiting the gorillas in the wild and you sneezed on one,
it would have COVID and give it to other gorillas.
Also, after you sneeze on it, probably rip your arms off.
Yeah, yeah.
I wouldn't be worried about that.
I wouldn't be close enough to sneeze on one.
You're rude.
You're rude.
White-tailed deer, yes, you can give them COVID
and possibly deer can pass it back on to people as well. Oh, wow.
Okay. And wild cats, lions,
tigers, jaguars, cougars, fish and cats,
Canadian lynxes and snow leopards
can all get COVID from humans
and pass it on to other
cats. Goodness me.
Well, yeah, make sure you stay clear
of your Eurasian beavers and jaguars
and... Damn it, I was just about to buy
myself a Eurasian beaver. Well jaguars and... Damn it, I was just about to buy myself a Eurasian beaver.
Well, don't.
I won't be staying away.
Once I'm done with this,
I'll be going back to the Eurasian beaver.
Okay.
Good.
Good for you.
One of my favourite animals.
The way they can dam a creek
and create an entire ecosystem is to be admired.
It certainly is.
It's stunning work.
They're stunning, stunning creatures.
So today's fact of the day is you can give some animals COVID.
Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.
Yeah. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.
Play ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley.
Play ZM.
Time now for the impossible finding topic.
We've found a story, a topic that we think is impossible.
We're not going to get any calls on it.
I'll give you the impossible.
I'll give you the topic right now and then tell you the backstory.
We are looking for someone who can be 32 years old, living at home, never having left.
Never having left.
Always lived at home.
Not move out for 10 years, then come back for a few to, you know, do some intense saving or move back just before they go in their OE.
Never left.
So that would, I think it'll be a lot of people
dobbing in like uncles and aunties
or older family members, right?
Yeah, I would.
Who are still living at home with their parents.
Never having left.
Is there a Guinness record for this?
I'm not talking about,
and I also like not including people who needed care,
like their parents might have, you know,
they might have needed care
and their parents can, you know, continue to have needed care and their parents, you know,
continued to give them care into their adulthood.
That's what I'm not talking about.
Talking more along the lines of this story,
a woman has consulted the internet,
which is never a great idea.
Don't ask me.
It's full of jackasses.
She said she's 28 and she's been seeing a guy who's 32
and has never lived anywhere other than in his
mother's house. He's lived with his
mother every day of his 32 years.
Never went flatting, never
left home. Oh, wow. But then
if she, she's probably one of those mums
that doesn't want her little boy to leave.
Even though her little boy's 32.
Totally, but those sorts of mums can
have them, like, move around the road
and still pop around and do all their washing and everything.
Yeah, true.
He's never left the house.
He's lived there for 32 years.
So that sort of situation.
Apparently his reasoning was he was saving for a house but had no savings.
Okay, right.
So it was a terrible excuse.
Yeah, terrible excuse.
There would be a red flag, right, if you go on a date with someone
and they're, like, in their 30s or 40s
and they've never been independent,
flatting or living away from home ever.
Huge red flag, right?
Yeah.
Well, it depends if you're in the same boat, maybe not.
But then whose parents are you going to live with?
Either you're about to say depends how hot.
Well, I mean, that goes without saying.
That's the unspoken rule of the world.
Hot people will get away with this.
Anything, yeah.
Anything goes.
So we are looking now, and with the impossible phone-in topic,
is there somebody listening now who either can beat 32 years straight living at home
or knows of someone that has been living at home more than 32 years?
Because that's a long time.
Never went flatting, never nothing.
Always lived with mum and dad.
A man, how did this even come about, this story?
She consulted the 28-year-old, was dating this 32-year-old,
and she asked the internet,
is it weird that he's never lived anywhere other than home with his mum?
That's right.
And he said he's doing it to save money, but he's got no savings.
So we want to know if anybody
can beat this. 32?
32 years
never having lived anywhere apart from
home with mum. Right.
Nikki's called Nikki. This is your
sister? It is, yeah.
She can't beat 32. She is 32.
Oh, wow. Okay.
And she's never left home.
She's never lived anywhere other than home, no.
But she's done it to pay off her student loans
and buy a house on one income in Auckland.
What?
So it did actually work for her.
No, no, no.
So is that fair on mum and dad that she's just
merging off them so she can...
Oh, no, no.
No, she's paying board as well.
And, like, she's legit, like,
she makes dinner a couple of times a week,
does the housework.
Like, she's legit boarding at home, basically.
And does she rent out the house in the meantime?
Yeah, currently.
But then, okay.
So she'll just be there forever, do you think?
Oh, no, no, no, definitely not, no.
So mum and dad are moving in a couple of years,
and so when they move, she's
moving, basically. She's either going to move into
her place or buy another place. I thought you
just would have wanted to move into your own place and
move out of home ASAP.
Nah, well, I mean, like, my parents are really
cool. Yep. Okay, right. Yeah, and
she's super independent anyway, so
yeah, it just works really well for everyone.
Wow, okay, well, 32, we haven't yet beaten 32, and that's the aim of the Impossible Phone yeah, it just works really well for everyone. Wow. Okay, well, 32.
We haven't yet beaten 32,
and that's the aim of the Impossible Phone-In Topic.
Thank you, Nikki.
If you can beat 32 years of either yourself
or someone that you know living at home.
All right, the Impossible Phone-In Topic.
A woman has asked the internet for advice.
She's dating a guy that lives at home.
32 years.
It's a huge red flag.
Never.
Said he's doing it to save money, but doesn't have any money saved.
So is that the real reason?
Who knows?
So we need to beat 32.
Now, we've had a call that was 32 years, a sister, somebody's sister living at home.
But she's got a house out of it, and the parents sound cool,
so that sounds like a great deal.
And she was paying board.
So can we beat that?
Liam, good morning.
Hey, how's it going?
Good.
This is your uncle.
How old was he still living at home?
45.
Wow.
Okay, current record, Liam, 45.
Yeah, I think he was just comfortable
and had sort of no reason to move out.
And was mum just like, don't leave, I'll make you dinner?
Yeah, I think it might have been a bit of that, yeah.
Wow, okay.
And then did he finally move out?
Yes, he actually met his current wife and that's sort of the reason he moved out.
Wow, okay.
And so he met a woman that was like, yeah, okay, I'll overlook that.
Basically. Basically.
Wow.
Because there'd be so many things you wouldn't have, like skills-wise, right?
Like he probably never did.
Did he ever do the washing at home?
I'm actually not 100% sure.
I wasn't really old enough when, this was quite a while ago now.
Right.
Yeah, I think he did, but I'm not 100% sure on that one.
Yeah, I mean, if you're going to get married and meet, they're totally going to mama you, right? Yeah, he... Yeah, I think he did, but I'm not 100% sure on that one. Yeah, I mean, if you're going to get married and meet,
they're totally going to mummer you, right?
Yeah, basically.
If you're living at home until you're 45.
You're going to need to find someone who's into that.
Yeah, Liam, thank you.
Hannah, can you beat living at home at 45?
Yeah, my dad's been living in the same house his entire life
and he's 63.
With parents?
Pardon?
With parents.
Yeah, my parents, my mom, my dad.
Oh, wow, okay.
Yeah, so he ended up buying the farm that he's on now off his parents,
and they moved out, and he stayed, so he's never lived anywhere else.
Oh, right, but his parents have left. But his parents let and they moved out and he stayed. So he's never lived anywhere else. Oh, right.
But his parents have left.
But his parents...
That's the way to do it.
But still, yeah, hasn't known anywhere else.
No, never.
Wow.
Okay, Hannah, thank you.
63.
We can beat that, though, I believe, Kerry.
How long living at home?
76 years.
Who was at home for 76 years?
My great-aunt. She lived in the home she was brought home for 76 years? My great aunt.
She lived in the home she was brought home in the hospital to.
The house she was born in was the house that her parents died in and she lived with them the whole time they were around.
76.
And then she stayed, once they died, she stayed in the house.
No, she sold the house after they died.
But she lived in that house with them for 75 years.
Oh, my God.
And why do you think she didn't move out that whole time?
Did they just look after her?
They were a very devout Catholic family.
And she dedicated her life to the church and to teaching kids.
And part of that meant that she never married.
And back then, if you were an unmarried
young woman, you certainly don't leave home.
So that's where she stayed.
Wow, 76.
Teasing parents. Incredible, yeah.
Kerry, thanks for your call. Some messages in.
Someone messaged, I used to work
in a rest home and a resident never left home
until his parents died and he immediately sold
the house and moved into a rest home because he
lacked the life skills to take care of himself.
He was 58 when he moved into a rest home.
No, no, no.
That's too early to move into a rest home.
It's too early to be in a rest home.
You need to be in a retirement village, right?
And then you go to the rest home.
Yeah.
But then I guess if you've got the money...
Even a retirement village.
I mean, I could probably really, like,
pop off in a retirement village
because it's just chilling
and old mates bitching and whinging
and a garden to put her about in.
And you'd love the talent show nights that they do.
You'd love to show off there, wouldn't you?
I'd go do a little dance for everybody.
That would be absolutely fantastic.
But yeah, we can't beat that, that 76 years.
Living at home.
And then the minute the parents die, selling the house.
But there's quite a few. 48 years living Living at home. And then the minute the parents die, selling the house. But there's quite a few.
48 years living with her mummy.
If it wasn't for me coming back home, she'd still be living there.
Wow.
So got her out of that.
Yeah, somebody, people have said there's different cultures
where one kid's pretty much got to stay to make sure the family's looked after.
Right.
And yeah, totally.
Even if you had to sleep out, that you could put up with Christine and Ian 24-7?
How do I put this nicely?
Without writing yourself out of the will.
We're just, we're finding many things to argue about.
Mum will do that thing where she's about to say something
really inappropriate and she goes,
we don't say things like that in front of Vaughan.
He gets a bit iffy about things like that.
Play.
ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley.
And now for a podcast extra.
The messages that we couldn't read out when we asked people today
to call in and text about the times,
the worst possible times you've bumped into a sibling.
And we've also got a lot of family members stories.
I think the worst, like for me being a gal, dad,
the ones about their dad turning up at the worst time.
At the strip club.
And they haven't told them they work there.
Oh, my gosh.
The ground could not swallow you up fast enough.
Vaughn, can you imagine?
No.
I simply refuse to.
I'm on enough COVID painkilling meds and cold and flu medication
that I can completely block that from even possibly being part of my imagination.
Good boy.
All right.
Well, some messages that we couldn't read out on air.
Some of them just for time's sake.
So someone said, I went home with a guy.
We were in the middle of doing the deed. And his phone started ringing. And I looked over, and it was for time's sake. So someone said, I went home with a guy. We were in the middle of doing the deed.
And his phone started ringing.
And I looked over and it was my brother's face.
So I answered the phone.
And it turned out they were good friends.
It wasn't my phone that was ringing with my brother.
Because obviously we never talk on the phone.
So when he was calling, I thought it must have been an emergency.
However, he was calling this guy that I was...
Oh, that is...
...fat-hacking in cheesecake with.
Awkward.
Wow.
Someone said it wasn't a sibling.
My son accidentally sent me a naked photo that was meant for his girlfriend.
So there's a son to a mum.
Oh!
Oh, no.
Yikes.
I was 15, absolutely smashed at Mission Bay Beach.
Police showed up with a paddy wagon and started rounding everybody up.
And I noticed one of the cops was my big brother
So I hid in a bush
He wouldn't let you off though right
You know Vaughn's brother
Wouldn't have let him off
Philip would have locked you up
He would have tased me and said that's just the law
That's just how it is
Someone said I thought i was home alone
uh about to get in the shower decided to go to the loo first naked walking down my 13 year old
brother came out of his room yeah i was 17 at the time just stood there it was very very awkward
when i was younger one day we had a had a cubby full of exotic literature.
Exotic and erotic literature.
I don't know where this cubby was.
It doesn't sound like it's somebody's home.
Like a cubby hole or like a drawer.
Sounds like a tree hut that the boys made and they've put their filthy mags up there.
Right.
With friends flocking through a magazine and one of their sisters was in it.
What?
As what? As a model?
As a model, as a nudie.
Oh God. As a nudie model. And you can't
escape that because they're still, so they're
just like there. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, there they are right there.
Oh, so many of these.
Lots of awkward
mums and dads thing, people.
There's just an age where you're not hanging out with your siblings naked anymore,
and it is well before any of these stories.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's definitely when you can both still fit in a bath comfortably without your feet touching.
That's it.
It's okay.
Yeah.
Without those feet touching.
Goodbye.
It's got to be put away.