ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley Podcast - 25th February 2022

Episode Date: February 24, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The ZM Podcast Network. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Hello, welcome to the Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley podcast. Thanks to McCafe, try the refreshing McCafe iced coffee. Available now at Macca's. Hayley's just looking down at her lavender shirt because she's just sneezed all over her breasts. I thought it would be funny. So I felt a sneeze coming on, a tickle in my nostril.
Starting point is 00:00:24 And I felt the sneeze and I was like, I'll just sneeze into my shirt and then I thought it'd be fun to say, piss off as I did it. But I didn't think that the S would sort of force the snot and the spit forward. It all happened, didn't it? Yeah, and it's gone down the shirt somewhere.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Now that's a, you know, that's a COVID symptom. Sneezing and runny nose. Yeah, but I'm allergic to a lot of things too. So I think that's a, you know, that's a COVID symptom, sneezing and runny nose. Yeah, but I'm allergic to a lot of things too. So I think that's what's happening here. We've been taking RAT tests here every day. So we know we're not COVID positive. And still none of us have got it, which is surprising.
Starting point is 00:00:59 But I'm sneezing like a madman lately. I don't usually get hay fever. I don't, I was like how, I thought yesterday would be the day that we would all text and be like, oh, it's positive. I feel like we're waiting because we've all been really tired this week. Yeah. We had a funk week. I've actually enjoyed this week significantly more than I thought I would.
Starting point is 00:01:18 After a big weekend, I thought I was going to really suffer. Oh, I've been suffering. Yeah, you're right. And, yeah, I've been sneezzy and just feeling more tired and sort of unwell but cough uh-oh was that a tickle you know you just cough and you're like this is it i've got it and after you do those rat tests you've just had something so far up your snows that it starts running and it starts like dripping into your throat so you start and so you're waiting for the little line to come up or not come up as it has so far.
Starting point is 00:01:45 And you're like, nope. Yep. Yep. Oh, wow. So who's going to be first then? You will be because have you got social events this weekend? I've got a big social weekend again. I know.
Starting point is 00:01:58 You're a mad woman. During the absolute peak of the Omicron. I need to keep socializing because I know I'm going to have to stay inside soon. And I go mad. I recharge on the energy of others. And I can't do it via Zoom anymore. I'm an energy vampire. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I need it. All right. Well, good luck. Monday, I promise you, I'm going to bring it in. And she's not talking about a slice that she's been teasing the recipe of all week she's talking about covid thank you rachel good morning welcome to the show
Starting point is 00:02:34 fleets for an and hayley two minutes past six friday friday getting down on friday what are you doing uh it's just This microphone stand's broken And I Been the Mr. Fix that I have Have used a rubber band To hold it at standing height So I quite like to stand
Starting point is 00:02:53 While I speak I think this one's broken too Yeah there's no Yeah cause Vaughan always Swaps it out Cause Bree uses that one And then she changed it back And then both of them
Starting point is 00:03:01 Are now broken I think Yeah So I don't know who broke it Me or Bree But somebody broke it. That's alright, I'll just sit here with a broken mic stand. You should find a rubber band. Well there are worse problems in the world
Starting point is 00:03:11 Hayley. Oh like what? Don't even go there. It is dark out there. I sat, I didn't I wasn't on the toilet for 10 minutes but when I get up in the morning at 4am the first and only thing I can manage is going into the bathroom and sitting on the toilet for 10 minutes, but when I get up in the morning at 4am, the first and only thing I can manage is going into the bathroom and sitting on the toilet
Starting point is 00:03:27 and hopping on my phone. And it was not a nice 10 minutes on the phone. The world is in a state. It's a bleak place, isn't it? It is. With the Russian invasion of Ukraine. That's why it's never been more important to laugh out louder with Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Holy shit. Are you in an agency pitch? Are you in an agency pitch to get someone to buy advertising on this station? It's a bleak world out there, ladies and gentlemen. And that's why we think plumbing world needs to get on board with Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley for laughing out louder. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Coming up on the show. So in laughing out louder. Yeah. All right. Coming up on the show. So in the top six. Yeah. The New York Times have printed a list. 11 mistakes you're making that escalate arguments with your partner. So I've got off the back of those. Yeah. The six ways to really escalate a fight with your partner.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Those little hot buttons that you know will get them going. Oh, baby, baby, baby. That look on your face just said you know a couple. Mine is... That look on your face just said you know a couple. It's that, you know, when you're having a fight. You say it back to them in a... You say it back to them in a little voice.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I can't believe I'm 32 and still use that. I can't believe I'm 32 and still use that. I can't believe I'm 32 and still use that. All right, well, it's coming up in the top six. Your chances are going to win. All thanks to Vodafone Super Wi-Fi. We've got a prize pack up for grabs, including a Samsung A7 tablet. And we're going to do that at 6.30.
Starting point is 00:04:56 You've just got to guess the popular pop culture moment or the song that is buffering, sadly, without Vodafone Super Wi-Fi. It's coming up. Up next, though, we've got the pin numbers that you should avoid and some that we'll suggest as well, which then I feel like
Starting point is 00:05:12 maybe you shouldn't use because we've said them on air. Yeah, and then we'd know your pin number. Then we'd know them. Yeah. Is this another leak? There's been a leak of pin numbers? There has been. Oh, it's so easy. I've got to do something about it. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Play. ZDM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. Well, we all know that password databases have always been hacked and then leaked. Oh, and you find the most common passwords like QWERTY or 12345. Yeah, absolutely. Or password, password1, password2022. Yeah, absolutely. Or Password, Password1, Password2022. Yep.
Starting point is 00:05:47 How many people just went, shh. Password2022 is my one. Stop giving it away. Well, a data scientist at Facebook, Nick Berry, has released a new list. He's analysed the password databases that have been released and named the most popular PIN numbers currently. So there are a few websites where you have PIN numbers, eh?
Starting point is 00:06:14 Yeah, or like there's a few apps on your phone now where instead of having a big password, you can just have a PIN number. Mostly, I don't know, your banking apps, which is attached to all your money. But then that's why if you've got two-factor turned on, they normally text you if there's a new login, right? So you're safe there.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Love two-factor. The top three, number three was zero, just zero. One zero or four zeros? Zero, it says. But I imagine it'd be four zeros because you can't really have a one, did you? You can't have a one, did you, Pippa? No. So let's say it's zero, zero,? Zero, it says. But I imagine it'll be four zeros because you can't really have a one, did you? You can't have a one with your pin. No. So let's say it's 0000.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Yeah. Number two, 1111. And number one, of course, is 1234. Who's still got 1234 as their pin? Guys, we really need to change it. We know someone that had their purse stolen, their wallet, and they just tried their birthday. Oh, yeah, that's a classic.
Starting point is 00:07:05 You know, an easy number like that. Absolutely. The other top ones on that list, you've got 1122, 1212, 2000, 222, 2, 3333, 4444, 5555. Anything really basic, 6969. Are there many in the 19 and then birth year? There'd be lots of those, surely. Not in the top 15. Are there any, what would it be?
Starting point is 00:07:28 One. No, that wouldn't work because there's no number at the bottom. Two, five, eight, zero. Yeah, yeah. No, that's not on here. So you can keep that one. Is that yours? Don't tell anybody.
Starting point is 00:07:41 And so they've said they've got the database of how many, the least popular pins. Okay. At the number one on that list. Is that number one? At 0.000744% of people. Yeah. Are you ready?
Starting point is 00:07:57 Yeah. 8068. 8068. Because it couldn't be, it could be a birth year. The last two could be a birth year for someone older. Where's my phone? Born in 68. But 80 isn't a birthday, is it?
Starting point is 00:08:09 And zero is not a month. There you go. That's probably why. Probably why, yeah. 7063 is in there. 0859. I'm going to call out some people's pin numbers. 8398.
Starting point is 00:08:22 7637. I mean, it's basically just a random connection. Yeah, it's no like triangles or squares yeah there's no pattern there's no rhyme or reason no
Starting point is 00:08:30 exactly do you have an easy pin number yeah uh oh and I'll say it don't say your pin number no I'll say that it's easy
Starting point is 00:08:38 it's only easy because I have had it since I got a bank account. Oh, and when you're young, you're like, I'll remember this. I'll remember this because it's this and this and this. Yep. And then I've just, I don't have the ability to change it. You know, like in my head, that's like 20 years.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I've had the same pin number since I first started it. Me too. First EFPROS card. Yeah. How'd you get that? Was that the phone number of someone you liked? Oh. Is that yours?
Starting point is 00:09:10 Of course it is. Wow. So you're forever connected to that person. And I always forget. And then I'll, I think my kids ask me what that phone number is. Oh. It was like just some girl dad used to like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Your old man used to be a bit of a stud. It really threw me when it was the apple that came up with the six. You know, you had to do six rather than four. So you just did your four and then rolled it around. The first two. Yeah. Well, I think my bank, you've got to do five. So I just add. The first one again.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or the last one. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So I was like, don't come at me with five. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or the last one. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So it's like, don't come at me with five. Yeah. Well, there you go. If your number's on that list.
Starting point is 00:09:49 That would be so easily hackable. Two-factor authentication. Always. That's what you need. Always. And don't use any of the top pins. One, two, three. If your pin number is one, two, three, four, seriously, today, go to your bank and change it.
Starting point is 00:10:06 And then take a good look at yourself. And then look in the mirror and be like, I'm better than this. Look in the mirror and say, maybe it's 4321 for me. It's not on the list. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Well, another file from the Boomers versus Millennials. I was going to say we always win, but we don't. Houses.
Starting point is 00:10:31 They did that. Yeah. So this is a study out of America, and it has found that millennials are more likely to whinge about pain during daily activities than baby boomers. So 76% of millennials compared to 59%. Like, ow, my back. But that's because baby boomers gobble Panadol
Starting point is 00:10:52 like they're a yummy little treat. Like my mum's like, oh, something's on the horizon. Pop, pop, pop, pop. They love painkillers. It's true. Because I'm not a painkiller person. It doesn't make sense to me. I'm like, I'd rather find out what's causing this pain.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Yeah, and then you're like, oh, I haven't drunk water since January. And then I'm going to drink some water for the first time this year. Yeah, I've been out in what can only be described as insane summer heat, and I haven't touched anything non-alcoholic for three days. Yeah. So out of everybody surveyed, nearly 70% said that they wish they could replace one of their body parts with a new one that works better.
Starting point is 00:11:32 What would you replace? The spine disc, my disc that's slipped in front of its other disc. Vaughan, what are you replacing? Everything. You're getting new everything? Well, yeah, you'd get new, what about calf muscles? No, that's purely cosmetic. Yeah, all I can think about is like,
Starting point is 00:11:51 maybe I'll get like a tummy tuck and maybe like a breast lift. Just the lot. If it's a bit of joint, I'll take it. I'm not a very painful person, but when I do have pain, like this week I've had nerve pain in my left knee. Oh, yuck. And it's just this annoying little clustery, tingly thing. And Aaron hasn't heard the end of it.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Well, regardless of age, nearly four in ten people would opt for a new back. Wow. Yeah. Well, back pain is like when it's right in the middle of everything, isn't it? Yeah. It's the centre of your being. But they do reckon that it's because of working from home and just being in a pandemic for two years,
Starting point is 00:12:30 spending so much time on the couch at home, on your bum, in bed. Even before that, millennials loved to whinge. Whinging about pain was almost a personality trait. Do you think it's because like... Everybody's got a friend that just is like always sore or always something. On the womb owning side of things, do you think it's because
Starting point is 00:12:52 like some of it could be around boomers were having more babies and once you've experienced baby birth pain Nothing compares. You're just like I can handle anything. Whereas like millennials, we're not doing it as much and so we're softer. We need to pop it out. So hard enough.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Hard enough and pop a couple of kids out. Don't admit that we're softer. That's ground we can't get back. We are softer. Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah, blah. This is the top six. God, I'm glad Sade's asleep.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Because. The New York Post has printed 11 mistakes you're making that escalate arguments with your partner. It's actually a really good list because you'll read through it. You'll be like, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. But at the same time, it could always be worse. So I've got the top six ways to really escalate an argument with your partner. Those little hot buttons that you know kick things off.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Yeah. Number six on the list. Now, the New York Times said a big mistake you're making when you argue with your partner is you argue about more things, more than one thing at once. Yes. Why not argue about everything at once? Is this the right time to bring up
Starting point is 00:14:01 that time you asked them a question in the car in 2011 and they ignored you? But you know they heard you? Yes, yes it is. Pile it on top. Let's make a jenga pile of arguments. And one wrong move could send the whole tower crashing down. Do you like to pull a memory from a long time ago?
Starting point is 00:14:24 Oh, I'm very good at it. Well, let's not forget. Yes! That's pretty much just like putting your finger into a random jenga brick without even checking its volatility. What about that, Tom? Bam! Number five on the list are the New York Post said one of the big mistakes
Starting point is 00:14:41 you're making when escalating arguments that can escalate arguments with your partner is avoiding eye contact. It apparently tells them you're not open to conversation. So why not give them full pukana eyes and look so hard into their eyes that you see the creation of the universe. Don't you dare blink. Don't you dare look away. I'm sure that'll go down well. Yeah. Stare straight through them. Or do that thing where you dare look away. I'm sure that'll go down well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Stare straight through them. Or do that thing where you look past them. See how much you can, when you look past them in the depth. Oh my God. Like you don't exist. You're like, yeah, like you're just like. I'm sorry, are you present?
Starting point is 00:15:15 You are so important to me, I can't even focus at your depth. That would rock me up. Where are you looking? I've done that before. Just look through. Where are you looking? At your face. Yeah. Number've done that before. Just look through. Where are you looking? At your face.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Yeah. Number four on the list of the top six ways to really escalate an argument with your partner. The New York Post said you're arguing at the wrong time. Oh, okay. When's the wrong time to argue? I say keep them on their toes. Have you remembered something that angered you in the middle of lovemaking? What a great time to kick it off.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Want to have it out in the middle of childbirth? Why not? Let's get to it! You're doing so well, babe and you know that this isn't really your strength. Yeah. I'm really surprised that you're not making a bigger deal about this. Girl.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Rah! Number three on the list of the top six ways to really escalate an argument with your partner. The New York Times says, you're focusing on your differences. You should be focusing on your common ground. Common ground? We are at war. There's no common ground here.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Every square inch of metaphorical land is up for grabs. At this stage, you're not even the same species. You have nothing in common with this person. How could you ever have been in a relationship with them? Go for the jugular. Number two on the list of the top six ways to really escalate an argument with your partner.
Starting point is 00:16:39 New York Post said you are giving them the silent treatment. That's closing off communications. What? I've had arguments with people in the 1990s who I haven't spoken to since. Post said you are giving them the silent treatment. That's closing off communications. Um, what? I've had arguments with people in the 1990s who I haven't spoken to since. If you don't want the silent treatment, you've come to the wrong
Starting point is 00:16:54 stubborn Irishman. And imagine if I was female. I could do it twice as long. You'd get to heaven and you'd still be like, I win. I'm not talking to you. I'm not talking to you. Nothing to say.
Starting point is 00:17:06 I'm not talking to them. And number one on the list of the top six ways to really escalate an argument with your partner, the New York Post's list of 11 mistakes that you make that'll escalate arguments is that you're arguing when you're too tired or hungry. Want to add another to the party and make it a threesome? Want to be tired, angry and a little bit drunk? What a hell of a time to express how we're all really feeling about things. Yes, I drank on an empty stomach in two hours sleep.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Why? And then point out that the other person is drunk. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're drunk. I'm not drunk. You're drunk. You're only saying that other person is drunk. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're drunk. I'm not drunk. You're drunk. You're only saying that because you're drunk.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Yeah. We'll see about that. Maybe you just need to calm down. Why don't you go whip yourself up a sandwich, babe? I think you need something to eat. Why don't you calm down, you psycho? Is that a bonus one? Call them a psycho.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Good bonus. I mean, it goes without saying, it's the definitive king of the list. Christ, you're being a psycho. Make yourself sound, even if you start the argument, make yourself sound like the real level-headed one
Starting point is 00:18:17 by immediately labelling the other person a psycho. That's today's top six. Play ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. If your nana or older woman in your life has become somewhat of a feminist, I'm going to drag her right back to the 1940s. Time for her to get back into the kitchen. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:18:36 That's it. Cue the ad break. No, that's all I have to say. No, there's been a new study that looks into the effects of activity on older women and their risk of dying from cardiovascular diseases. And it turns out that chores like washing the dishes and other household chores can slash an older woman's risk of dying from cardiovascular disease by almost two-thirds.
Starting point is 00:19:02 A previous study, they look at, they could say daily life movements or like moderate activity because we all know as you get older, the best way to have a long life is to keep moving, stay active. But previous studies looked at things like running and walking, like what you kind of imagine movement to be. But this study looked at daily life movements. Right. So anything from driving, doing the dishes, cooking, walking, cleaning.
Starting point is 00:19:30 The gardening, pottering around in the garden. The gardening comes with a bit more risk associated. Indeed. It's quite physically demanding. Cut themselves on a rose. They'll be bleeding for weeks. They'll bleed out right there in the middle of the garden. Amputate, indeed.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Yeah, so they said people who spent four hours a day performing these daily life movements were 62% less likely to die from cardiovascular or coronary disease. So get Nan or Grant in the kitchen. Get them up and about. So they don't have to join
Starting point is 00:20:01 a blimmin' aqua yoga class. Aqua yoga? Aqua jogging. Aqua drought. So they don't have to join a blimmin' aqua yoga class or a- Aqua yoga. Aqua jogging. Aqua yoga. She's a drowner. Aqua yoga. All right, we're going to do a downward dog.
Starting point is 00:20:12 It'd be easy though, I'd imagine, or sort of a weightless environment to do yoga. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Maybe I've just created my own brand of exercise. Yeah, so it doesn't have to be things like that. Things like even getting dressed, dressing themselves, preparing meals, doing the dishes.
Starting point is 00:20:31 The day I can't dress myself, I'm going to become a nudist. Oh, just nude the whole time. Yeah, baps out. You'll need to live somewhere warm. You can't go to the dining room. By the time I'm old, the whole planet's going to be warm,
Starting point is 00:20:43 to be fair. Everyone's going to be dry. Yeah, but you can't go to the dining room at the Ryman with your baps out. Absolutely I can. I'm an old woman. Maybe Ryman will have a nudist Ryman by then. They'd be mad not to. It's the future. It's many, many years away from me.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Anyway, so it's Christmas dinner. Tell mum to do the dishes. Yeah, for her house. And she's like, I cooked the meal. Be like, yeah, but four hours a day you need of these daily movements. You've done two. You've done two, mum. Come on.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Come on. Get to work. I can hear that heart race. I'm sure that'll go down well. It will. Play. ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. There are five love languages.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Acts of service. Gifts. There are five love languages. Acts of service. Gifts. If you were with someone and their thing was gifts, would you be a bit like, no. I would be. I'd be like, no, no, no, no, no. We're not mad. I'm not giving you gifts.
Starting point is 00:21:36 I'm not buying you gifts all the time. Is that like surprises? Oh, my God. What a ball, like. It's not gifting, like cooking food, because that's acts of service, isn't it? Yeah, that's acts of service. That would fall under running an errand, cooking a meal, completing a household chore, act of service.
Starting point is 00:21:51 So what is the gifts? Gifts is give thoughtful and meaningful gifts of any size without an occasion. What a grubby little capitalist. They just say more, more, more. Reedy guts. Physical touch is another one. Hug, kiss, hold hands.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Quality time. Give your partner undivided attention via exclusive time together or words of affirmation offering verbal compliments and words of appreciation. Quality time. Quality time, bottom of the list for me. No, see, when I Googled this, I think I was more quality time. I'm a quality time guy.
Starting point is 00:22:19 That hands down. Like the gifts thing, not happening. Sade's acts of service. Like on Valentine's Day, all I did was rearrange the hot water cupboard, down. The gifts thing, not happening. Sade's acts of service. Like, on Valentine's Day, all I did was rearrange the hot water cupboard, rolled the towels, stacked the things, and she was just like, get in the bedroom
Starting point is 00:22:33 and take your pants off. If she was away with the girls at her mum's one weekend and when they got home, I'd like proper clean the house. And she was just like, get in the bedroom. Would you like to see how I'm abreast? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Whereas I'm a quality time. Yeah. Do you have a different language for giving and receiving? You know, like you like to give acts of service, but you like to receive
Starting point is 00:22:56 gifts or quality time. I don't know. I don't know either. Perhaps. I'm a physical touch. Handsy. Are you a real PDA hold hands kind of a... We'll hold hands, but I mean more in our relationship, not publicly.
Starting point is 00:23:11 You're more physical than I thought you would be, though. Yeah. Oh, me and Aaron. Yeah. Yeah, you couldn't keep your bloody hands off and let that barbecue, could you? Let's just see what's happening in the bathroom. I'm kidding. Well, that's a nice bathroom.
Starting point is 00:23:22 I want to know how recently we've had a bathroom that's been christened by somebody. So yesterday, we are building a new deck at our house. Yeah. Tearing out the old one and adding a deck so it matches the rest of the deck. Big old deck. Big old deck out the front. But we're also pulling down our garage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:43 So there's a little wee deck on the side of the garage and so I was like, this would be a good practice. Is that the one I vomed on that morning? Yep. Yeah, good. Did you spew on the deck? Yeah. Rough night.
Starting point is 00:23:53 That deck, when I was pulling that wood up, you said, I'm surprised your acidic vomit didn't melt through it. It was old and very withered. You couldn't vomit over the deck? I didn't make it. I didn't make it. I didn't make it. I had to get the hose out and just... Good boy.
Starting point is 00:24:09 That's wild. So I was like, this will be a good little practice. Unbeknownst to Shada. I went out there to practice. See, I'll do it myself. And then Shada came out and she's like, do you want a hand? And I love that. That's the quality time.
Starting point is 00:24:21 But maybe it's a little bit of acts of service. But anyway, I was like, and we were out there. No phones. Yep. Just me and my wahine toa and a couple of crowbars, some hammers, a bucket for the nails. Because that's the other thing. When I was pulling it apart, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:24:36 I'm not going to do that thing builders do where they just rip shit and bust and nails go everywhere. I was like, we're leaving a tidy area. And we just spent the afternoon pulling apart this deck. And I tell you what, I said to her, I said, I love doing stuff like this with you. And she's like, do you? I thought like, you know, I'd be too slow or whatever. I was like, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:24:55 You've been very helpful. And then, yeah, so we did like, we worked together the entire afternoon. There wasn't a single argument. We worked in unison. We had teamwork going on. Not a single argument. You're doing manual labour. I know.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Renovation-style labour. I know. Zero arguments. She hit something and it hurt her at one stage and I thought, I'm going to get blamed for this, but I didn't get blamed for that. That was swept under the rug. We went on.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Nice. I know, no arguments. Maybe you could go on the block together. No. Oh, my God, no. Absolutely not. It would be the end of us. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:25:29 Was the magic there? I don't know. It was hot, too. It was quality time. Jesus, it was hot. Yeah. It was quality time. It was uninterrupted.
Starting point is 00:25:37 We talked, and the kids were doing their homeschool stuff. They were inside. What a beautiful event. Yeah, but later on we had a really good argument. So, you know, it all balances out. There's got to be balance to the force. Play ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. Play ZM. Well, it's time for the
Starting point is 00:26:00 impossible phone-in topic. We think we may have finally found a topic so impossible that you can't call us with a story. Yeah. It hasn't happened yet. I feel like this one's impossible. We may not have anyone, but if we do,
Starting point is 00:26:14 oh my God, I'm so excited to hear this story. Because this is amazing. You might have seen this already because it's been going everywhere. Scientists accidentally captured a brain as it was dying. So there was a patient that was being treated for epilepsy who was hooked up to an EEG, an electro-neutrophilic am. Is that superficial?
Starting point is 00:26:35 An electro-neutrophilic am. Okay. And then he was hooked to that. And then as he was hooked to that, he had a heart attack suddenly and died. You feel bad when you stress them out. You freaked them out so badly, he dies. It did mean that the 15 minutes surrounding his death were all recorded on this EEG.
Starting point is 00:26:56 There was an increase in a really specific type of brain wave known as gamma oscillations, which are linked to things like memory retrieval, meditation and dreaming. So what they've kind of worked out from this is they think that as we die, in the moments before we die, we do see a kind of film reel of our life, of our favourite memories. Like they say, your life flashes before your eyes.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Yeah. But this is like the first time ever that they've actually captured that that might be true. As our body shuts down, our brains just keep going. It's quite beautiful, actually. Unless you actually hook someone up and then killed them, you wouldn't capture that, would you? Like, it would have to be by chance. Exactly. That's why this is a first.
Starting point is 00:27:38 They're saying there's going to be more studies, but I don't know how you're going to do it. Hook old people up to ECGs constantly? Forever and just wait for them to die. Yeah. Anyway, so what this got us thinking was we want to ask if anyone listening has ever died. But then come back. No, no, no. Died and not come back.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Oh, no, but they won't be able to come back. That's why it's the impossible vote. Yeah, yeah. No, but yeah, had a near death experience where they might have slipped away. Yeah, this happens all the time. People are medically dead. For a few minutes or something. And then they are brought back.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Yeah. Doesn't it flood your brain with DMT? What? Just like a... A horma. It's a naturally occurring thing in the human mind, but it doesn't, like, happen that often. But then it's also in psychedelics. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Yes. It's a DMT dump. Is that what happens? So it kind of puts you at peace. So someone that had medically died, and this is why we know that your life flashes before your eyes. People say this, don't they? Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:34 And that people talk about maybe seeing a white light or, you know. Yeah. We want to know, if you ever have died, what did you see? What happened? Did your life flash before your eyes? Did you see a light? Did you follow the light? Or did you just wake up and you're like, why am I in a hospital? You woke up
Starting point is 00:28:52 and they were like, dude, you died. You're like, oh wow. I'm so hungry. And you didn't get the dream flashes or anything, yeah. I'm really hoping we might hear from someone that they have died. I'm fascinated by this.
Starting point is 00:29:07 It is the impossible finding topic. I'll wait $800 at M if you have medically died and come back. I'll wait $800 at M. Medically died? Have you died?
Starting point is 00:29:17 Yeah. Well, like, yeah. Like, have you actually died? Like, has your heart stopped? Your things... There's a shutdown, a reboot. All right, well, you can text as well, 9696. We're either going to come back next with some amazing stories...
Starting point is 00:29:34 Or nothing. And we'll just chat for a bit. Well, the impossible finding topic, a topic we think is so impossible that nobody will call us. Yeah. Comes off the back of a discovery this week. Yes, scientists were accidentally recording the brain of a man and he died. They were monitoring him for other symptoms.
Starting point is 00:30:00 He had a heart attack and he died. And they caught the moment he died and believe that before he did, the waves in his brain were playing back happy memories from his life. Just another way the human body is so amazing that it knows that this is it. So here's a highlights reel. What if people are in my highlights reel? Previously on life.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Yeah, like what kind of highlights? But then the series is cancelled. Yeah. And you never get to finish. Yeah, how, like what highlights? But then the series is cancelled. Yeah. And you never get to finish. Yeah, how, like what highlights? Stuff you've forgotten? Stuff that's good? Yeah, what if there's people that you're like,
Starting point is 00:30:31 I don't want to see them, I don't want to see them? Or there's anxious stuff that's unfulfilled? Remember that time that you said to your mum, I hate you when you're 13 and it still lives on in you? Or like a weird episode of Saved by the Bell that you can't get out of your head. My head's full of all this dumb stuff. Like, I absolutely massacred my friends at 90s Trivia at the weekend.
Starting point is 00:30:49 And they're like, is this all your brain's full of? I'm like, maybe. So what if I die and it's just like this weird... Pointless. Maybe a weird last moment for you. We asked you, have you died? Philippa joins us. Good morning, Philippa. Good morning. Have you died? Philippa joins us. Good morning, Philippa.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Good morning. Have you died? Yes. Philippa. Philippa, Philippa, Philippa. It's not impossible. It's not the impossible phone-in topic today. What happened?
Starting point is 00:31:16 I was in a speedway sidecar accident in Australia. And I died on the track and was revived a few times and then flown in an induced coma and stayed for a couple of weeks in the coma. Holy moly. So walk us through what happens. Do you remember the crash or is your brain like, no, that's not worth remembering?
Starting point is 00:31:35 No, no memory of the crash at all. What's the last thing you remember before? Arriving at the track. Wow. And then what's the first thing you remember after? It's about three weeks later. I remember just waking up. I've got a couple of verbal memories in ICU.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I can remember hearing things, but I don't remember seeing anything. So fascinating. And does that kind of feel like a dream? Yeah, yeah. I had some pretty wicked dreams of feel like a dream? Yeah, yeah. I had some pretty wicked dreams on the drugs. Yeah, girl. I wonder if because of the
Starting point is 00:32:11 sort of violent nature of the way that you died, you know, like there was too much going on, you know, whereas this person in this case that we were looking at slipped away quite peacefully. Yeah. Whereas you, I mean you, that's incredible. So you didn't get like a highlights reel
Starting point is 00:32:28 that you can remember? No, nothing. Didn't see a light? No. Maybe then instead her brain did its best to just blank it out, blank it all out. So you can move on. Did you wake up a different person? Did anybody note any like personality differences?
Starting point is 00:32:44 I was probably nicer for a while but I'm back to normal now. Grateful for a second shot at life. That shit warped in pretty quick. Why you pull me back
Starting point is 00:32:53 for a pandemic in World War 3. Phillip, you're amazing. Thank you so much for sharing this morning. Anonymous has called up. Anonymous,
Starting point is 00:33:00 you've died. Yes, on the operating table. Oh my God, tell us what happened. Yes, on the operating table. Oh, my God. Tell us what happened. So when I was 13, I ended up breaking, completely snapped both bones in my arm and was having the surgery to get steel plates put in.
Starting point is 00:33:17 And throughout the surgery, I ended up having a lot of bleeding and I ended up dying on the table for about 45 seconds, maybe a minute. And during that time, I actually experienced an outer body experience. Oh my God, tell us more about that. So basically an outer body experience, it means that you're like, you're, I guess you could call it an aura is like out of your body and you can physically look at yourself. So my first initial thing of seeing was me looking down at myself on the table as in seeing everything that was going on. And then like not even 10 seconds after that, I'm thinking of my parents.
Starting point is 00:34:03 I'm in the waiting room, sitting in the chair next to them, looking at them, trying to talk to them. They can't see me. They can't hear me. And I didn't know what was going on. And then not even a little bit after that, I woke up and I was waking up physically. I've got goosebumps.
Starting point is 00:34:20 That is absolutely insane. And so when you woke up and you were back in your body, were you like immediately, oh my God, I've just been out of my body? Or did it take you some time to remember that this had happened? No, I still remember like it happened yesterday. I still haven't had the courage to tell my parents what I went through at that time. And I'm now 25 and I still remember it like it happened yesterday. Wow.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I'm doing it. 45 seconds. Yeah. Oh, my God. Well, we're happy you're alive and thank you so much for sharing. Thank you very much, Anonymous. Paul joins us. Paul, you've died as well.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Absolutely. Oh, my gosh. How long were you RIP for? You sound chipper for a dead guy, Paul? Yeah, well, I was on a job site in Riverhead building a deck for my sister's best friend. Oh, now Vaughan's doing some deck renovations. And Hayley lives in the, we live in the area.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Uh-oh. Is the ghost of Paul going to wake me up tonight? And I was carrying bags of concrete, and apparently I looked at my mate and looked straight through him and fell face first down onto the ground. Oh, you just drove dead. They all came running over to me, and yeah, there was no pulse. So my mate Scott Harris, got to say Scott Harris.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Scott Harris. Scott Harris, ladies and gentlemen. Scotty Harris. Scotty Harris. He did PPR for 11 minutes. There was first responder, ambulance, fire engine, and two police cars turned up. So I really hope no one else was sick that day.
Starting point is 00:35:57 And he did CPR and they rushed me off to hospital, resuscitated me several times along the way. And when I woke up, had people leaning over me going, say something, say something. Because the doctors did say there was a possibility I could have had severe brain damage or lack of oxygen to the brain. And I said, get out of my face. And people turned around and said, that's why he's a cockroach. And so for my 50th, Scott Harris, got to say his name again.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Scott Harris. He got me a number plate cockroach for my 50th. That is so good. Because you can't kill Paul. Wow. So the moment that you, what actually happened? Did you have a heart attack or? They don't actually know.
Starting point is 00:36:48 I've been sick over the years with various things. That's why I think post-op really sticks. Yeah. And to boot, two years later, I was on the footpath on Lincoln Road. A car mounted the curb and hit me at 70 kilometres an hour. Jesus Christ, Paul, just die already. Wow. So did you have a moment where, like, you had a highlights reel,
Starting point is 00:37:14 your life flashed before your eyes, or you just don't remember anything? No, I just don't remember anything. I felt, obviously, really crap when I woke up. But, yeah, I was just grateful, you know? Yeah, yeah. Because I don't know if I'd do 11 minutes on you, Vaughan, of CPR.
Starting point is 00:37:34 I'd probably give up after four. You're very mouthy with the CPR from my experience. I was lucky he'd done St. John's as a kid and a teenager because, you know, I wouldn't be here. Sorry, sorry, who did the CPR as a teenager?
Starting point is 00:37:51 Scott Harris. Scotty Harris! Scotty! Scotty Harris! He's a good man. Paul, don't die on us. Thanks so much for sharing with us. He won't.
Starting point is 00:37:59 He can't. He's a moron. He's a cockroach. He's a cockroach. Scotty Harris ran him over on Lincoln Road and he still didn't die. All right. Hey, thanks, Paul. Oh, and by the way, the guy that ran me over on Lincoln Road got five months in jail.
Starting point is 00:38:13 That was it. Yeah, good. Oh, no. He wants more. Yeah, but he didn't kill you, did he? He tried. He tried. He won't die.
Starting point is 00:38:22 All right. Thanks, Paul. Next on the show. I was going to say, heaps of other amazing stories as well. Thanks, Paul. Next on the show. I was going to say, heaps of other amazing stories as well. Thanks, everybody, for sending them in. It's the final ranking. I want to say I only just hit that note. I listened to it.
Starting point is 00:38:36 The final. Now, final rankings, it's become a Friday tradition. We take a look at different things things and we argue and rank them. We've done the sampler biscuit box. We've done a bag of lolly snakes. We've done the
Starting point is 00:38:49 favourite box. Today, nuts. This is on the back of yesterday, me feeling a little peckish around about this time and I opened up
Starting point is 00:39:00 one of these little you know, macro whole foods nutty and nice. Hayley's the person when you go somewhere and there's catering, fills her bag up at the end of the day. Me and Vaughn did a photo shoot the other day. I've got a bag full of little nuts.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Is that from TVNZ? Free nuts. This is TVNZ budget. Okay, so that's taxpayer nuts there. This is taxpayer nuts. No, we took it from the 60% not owned by the taxpayer anymore. We took it from the private division. We made sure.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Right. We made sure. Okay, great. And I was eating it yesterday. In it is some kind of like chocolate thing, which is obviously the best bit. But in it is a mixture of almonds and walnuts
Starting point is 00:39:33 as the nuts provided. And I was snacking on a walnut. And I was like, walnuts are the superior nut. And the look on your face, Fletch. Disgust. I agree.letch. Disgust. I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Disgust. Walnuts as a child. My memory is just like gathering them so my granddad could mow the lawn. And then you had to dry them out. And then the outside part came off. But you were still months away from enjoying the nut. They're yuck. They're good on an Afghan biscuit.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Oh, my God. They're so buttery and sweet. Because you eat it with the biscuit and the icing in it. And it's fine. Or smashed up as part of a slice. But by itself. It's a dry old nut. It's horrible.
Starting point is 00:40:10 It's not dry. It's the opposite. It's oily as. It's so fatty and buttery. In terms of more versatile nuts, cashews and almonds are my faves. Cashews are the most versatile nuts. Cashews have the exact same texture as a walnut. Stir-fried? No, they don't. They've got a nicer taste. They're have the exact same texture as a walnut. Stir-fried?
Starting point is 00:40:25 No, they don't. They've got a nicer taste. Yes, they do. They're soft. Yeah, but they've got a nicer taste. But almond, we're not thinking of almond. Are we considering flavoured options or are we only doing plain? We're doing plain.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Because I'm saying there's nothing more versatile than a cashew. You can have a sweet cashew. You can have a savoury cashew. You can have a plain cashew. The cashew is the most versatile nut. Nude. We're going nude. Otherwise, a scorched almond wins.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Or the skinny almonds. Oh my God, the skinny almonds. I introduced my mother to skinny almonds the other day. Do you know what she said to me? What? Damn you, Vaughan Smith. Damn you. She can't say no to a scorchy, but she only gets them at Christmas. The white chocolate with raspberry dust.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Oh shit. You know who would love one of those? Scotty Harrison! gets them at Christmas. Yeah, of course. The white chocolate with raspberry dust. Oh, shit. Oh, shit, boy. You know who would love one of those? Who? Scotty Harris! Scotty Harris! We need to organise to send Scotty Harris
Starting point is 00:41:12 a bag of beautiful Let's get Scotty a nut-based gift basket. Almonds are so bad. When I think of almonds, I think of being on a diet and having... Almonds are boring.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Almonds are a little afternoon snack. They're boring. They have to be roasted to smithereens and deeply salted or dipped in chocolate. For your consideration, if we're talking just a plain nut, I would like to present to the panel pistachios. It's bougie.
Starting point is 00:41:34 It's too bougie. What are you talking about? Macadamia? How much money? Imagine, if I was to buy, what's the brand? Allison? The Pick and Mix. The Pick and Mix brand of pistachios.
Starting point is 00:41:45 I would get so many more almonds than pistachios. The pistachios, even if they're in shell, you've got this whole task. You've got to crack them open. You get them in your mouth. But you just said before you don't want to work for a walnut. Why are you prepared to work for a pistachio? Because it's not worth the work.
Starting point is 00:42:01 You open it up, there's a little green treat. You're like, get in me. And then you... No, you can't snack on pistachios. That's your worth the work. You open it up there's a little green treat. You're like, get in me and then you... No, you can't snack on pistachios. That's your privilege talking there. I don't care. I work hard. I don't care for pistachios.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I work minimally primarily for pistachios. And you make a little pile of the shells beside you to show everybody how good you are at eating pistachios. What, do you snack on a bag of pine nuts as well, Mr. Moneybags? Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I wouldn't even class pine nuts in this.
Starting point is 00:42:28 They're simply an ingredient for a pasta. What about a macadamia? Yeah, delicious. I mean, again, great chocolate coated, but we're only doing nude nuts, aren't we? Macadamia's a lovely nude nut. Yeah, they are. Lovely nude nut. But see, again, way better than a walnut.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Walnut for me is right down peanut. Walnut feels all English to me. Do you need to eat one as a reminder? Where are we with peanuts? We haven't even mentioned. Peanuts aren't even on the list. They're a budger nut. No one's picking peanut as a favorite.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Unless it's a spread or an M&M, I'm not interested. Yeah, peanuts. As a spread. Yeah. Get a grip. It's walnuts. So good. I feel like we're at an absolute stalemate.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Yeah. Because Vaughan and I, but we're majority. We're cashew. Are we cashew, almond? Cashew for versatility, but pistachio is my favourite nut. If you're pistachio, I'm walnut. I'm pistachio. You're cashew.
Starting point is 00:43:17 If we're eating a nude nut. See how almond got no votes? It's a bad nut. Almond's a boring nut. I can't believe... Are they too easily acceptable? The taste of the walnut was so good. No.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I'm the only one... What about a Brazil? We haven't even mentioned the Brazil. That's a big nut. That's a big nut. You're getting a lot of nut per nut for a Brazil nut. It seems insane. It's a dry nut though, a Brazil nut.
Starting point is 00:43:41 It can be part of a mix, but it's not the hero. It's a real moisture minimiser. Pecans, we're not going to go there? No. Too wrinkly, says the girl who loves a walnut. I love a pecan, but again, as part of a pecan pie. Probably my favourite pie, actually, pecan pie. So we don't agree on this?
Starting point is 00:43:56 We're not here to rank pies. It's nuts. The ranking goes. Pies next week, though? Absolutely, we can do. Walnuts, cashews, pistachios. Mine, pistachios, cashews, macadamias. Oh, yeah, I'd probably go the same.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Pistachio, cashew, macadamia? Or, yeah. Pistachio, cashew, macadamia. Whatever the decision here, walnuts, we can agree, are bottom of the list. We don't agree. It's old English. It's always like... It's so creamy. It's like a treat on Downton Abbey. Yeah. It's old English. It's always like... It's so creamy.
Starting point is 00:44:25 It's like a treat on Downton Abbey. Yeah. It's oldie times. Oh well. I'm just going to eat my bag of walnuts. Nice and loud. A new study is looking at our phone usage and Here we go.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Yeah, it's not good. No. It's not good. The biggest stat out of it, 6 in 10, 60% of people couldn't cope without their phone for one day. One whole day without the phone. Could you do it? Why would we...
Starting point is 00:45:00 I can't even turn the microphone on. If I didn't have it, I'd be all right. Like what about when we went canoeing in the Whanganui River? It was like we didn't have reception the whole time for like two days. But this is even including not having it to take photos. Oh, okay. So it played a role as a camera quite extensively there. Yeah, it looked at that about how people use their phones.
Starting point is 00:45:24 A lot of anxiety around, I don't know how to get anywhere without it. Yeah, it looked at that about how people use their phones. A lot of anxiety around, I don't know how to get anywhere without it. Oh yeah, maps? Yeah, they said 13% of people don't know their way to work without their phone. What? 13% of people couldn't drive themselves to work
Starting point is 00:45:38 without their phone. No, that must be people that live in like really big cities. I don't know. Drive it once, you know how to get there. No, but Aaron uses his all the time. Google Maps always on, no matter where he's going, because he reckons there's always going to be a faster...
Starting point is 00:45:51 That's what I was going to say. Faster route there. If you use it for traffic, sure. But if you just don't know how to get somewhere... Or a lot of people have anxiety around not knowing what the weather's going to do, and they use their phone for that. I see.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Big weather check. Yep. Big on the weather's going to do, and they use their phone for that. I see. Big weather check. Yep. Big on the weather check. 68%, two-thirds, rely on their phones to take photos and they're not having the ability. It causes anxiety. See, phones are a one-stop shop for what used to be spread around everywhere. Teletext for the weather.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Newspaper for the news. A camera to take things. Satnav or before that, a map book to get somewhere. It's the news. A camera to take things. A sat-nav or before that a map book to get somewhere. It's the point. So it's like saying people couldn't go the whole day without the newspaper, the TV, a photo, a sat-nav, a car. Yeah, it's not just like social media or anything. They said one in eight people claim that a dying battery,
Starting point is 00:46:42 a battery on like 6%, gives them actual anxiety. Yeah, that's true. Calling it a nightmare scenario. You do get like that when you're out and you're going, oh. Especially when you're like in a... Is it like a charger? Yeah, if you were travelling in a city, you don't know your way home and you're like 6% and that's how you're getting home, maps.
Starting point is 00:47:01 I'm definitely addicted to my phone. I get anxiety when I don't have it for like an hour. There's a story about a Minnesota mum. She, when her son, he's just turned 18. Did you see the story as well? I did. He was 12 and she said, if you stay off your phone and social media, I'll give you $1,800.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I don't know why $1,800. For how long? Six months. Six years. Six years. I think she said like, you can't do this.1,800. For how long? Six months. Six years. Six years. I think she said like, you can't do this. I bet you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:29 And he said like how much that you can't stay off social media. And he did it for six years. He's just finished. Yeah. And he's 18. Okay. So maybe $1,800 because he was, if you can get to 18, I'll give you $1,800. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:41 I'll pay you $1,000 for. No. No. It'll be $3,000. $3,000 for every you $1,800. Oh, yeah. I'll pay you $1,000 for... No. No. $2,000? It'll be $3,000. $3,000 for every year? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Still an uneven amount. But yeah, he's claimed the $1,800. No, I won't do it, Mum, only because it's an uneven amount. Yeah. Either knock it down to two or put it up to four. I simply won't deal in threes. But he sounds like you.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Stubborn. You're so stubborn. I bet you can't do that. And you're like, I'll show you. Bet I can. I'll never do it again I easily live without social
Starting point is 00:48:09 But I'd need the maps and camera Maps and camera Music Maps, camera, music It's all the cool stuff Yeah that's another thing Music isn't it Like
Starting point is 00:48:16 Yeah Podcasts, music Whatever you're listening to Wherever you're going iHeartRadio has it all Is that where you're going with that They really do The app
Starting point is 00:48:23 Yeah it's an ad for the company. I mean, actually. I heart Radio. If you want to take it that way. Just be sure when you're searching, it's EM after the Z, not B, because there's rabbit hole stuff there. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Oh, this is perfect timing too, because I literally just got an email now. A shipment from order is on the way. It's like heroin. I need more of it. So Aaron and I, this year, we bought a house at the end of last year and we're doing a major renovation on it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:01 I don't know if you know this, but renovation is quite expensive. Yes. I don't know if you know this, but there's a bit of a shortage of supplies at the moment. Is there any jib board? They've got no jib board. I guess this is my friend who's doing renos. Yeah. He said their builder offered to buy back the jib board that they bought.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Yeah. And he's like, but we don't have any spare. He's like, I'll pay you twice. I'll pay you twice what you paid for it. Yeah. Because there's a six month wait on it. Is there a black market jib board? Dude, this is a huge supply issue.
Starting point is 00:49:29 This is the stuff on your walls. This is your walls. This is your walls. Don't be going kicking and punching. Could I just cut some of my walls? And gift it to me? Well, yeah, and I could just sell it on the black market. Absolutely, but then you'd be left with just framing.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Famously hard to get off in one piece, jib board. Once it's been properly applied with nail. Don't you have a lot of concrete in your apartment as well? We have got some walls. Yeah, shorter supplies and everything costs a lot because the limited supply they do have, it's hard to get here because of COVID. So everything is costing.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Costing money, money, money. That's all we talk about at the moment with these renovations. So relatable. It's so expensive to renovate my Auckland house. Anyway, so he's sort of brought up, I'm a shopper, I'm a spender, not a saver. And he's sort of mentioned
Starting point is 00:50:20 in passing a little bit, you know, we're going to rein in the spending. He says we, which is good language to use. He You know, we're going to rein in the spending. Like he says we, which is good language to use. He means me. We're going to rein in the spending a little bit. Especially because everything, it's not just gym board. It's everything is more expensive. Nails, screws.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Petrol. No, it's not. It's just like life. Plaster, paint. Vegetables. Floorboards. You can't decorate. You have to do the vegetables.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Roofing. Petrol. Carrot wall, you psycho. You can smash up a beacher and paint your wall come into my kumara house no no i need jib okay i don't need food i'll forgo the food i'll forgo the fruit fruit and veg anyway so we mentioned you know he's sort of done it lightly and then what brought it up oh Oh, my wardrobe is exploding. And he was like, you need to sort the wardrobe out. Why is it so full? I was like, well, I just added a few things.
Starting point is 00:51:14 And he was like, don't you work on radio now? What does it matter what you wear? He doesn't know. And anyway, so he gave me another rock up yesterday, like you have to stop spending. And I agree. I'm just in a spot of trouble because, yes, I've agreed now, but I still have outstanding packages on their way. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:33 And I don't know how to sort of be like, yeah, but I did that before we had this conversation. Yeah, right. How many packages are outstanding? I think like five or six. Two of them are sheets of which we both benefit. Okay, yeah, that's fine. So that's two.
Starting point is 00:51:53 A dress. He could benefit from that, though, because you're wearing it and you'll look beautiful. Because I'll look like a hot, sexy mama. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, and people will be like, damn, boy, you've got a hot, sexy mama. Yeah, damn, you've got a set of legs on her. Yeah. You lucky boy be like, damn, boy, you got a hot sex with mama. Yeah, damn, you got a set of legs on her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:06 You lucky boy. Okay, that's two packages to go. I've got, well, I've got two dresses. Okay, so two dresses. Two dresses and a pair of shoes. And two sets of sheets. Okay. But then I would have established yesterday.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Yes, you're right. Okay, so that's another one. But my old one's broke. Yes, you're right. But then I that's another one. But my old one's broke. Yes, you're right. That's where you, but then I do already have some things on the way. So don't think I've ordered
Starting point is 00:52:30 post-college conversation. But it's too late because I was like, yeah, I totally agree. I totally agree. You get them sent to work. I know, but it's too late. I've already sent them.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Some of them are coming from Australia. So, and now that like, he's got some time off at the moment. So he's constantly home for the courier. Whereas usually
Starting point is 00:52:44 when he's working, I can like get home, so he's constantly home for the courier, whereas usually when he's working, I can get home, divert. Yeah. One thing he learnt is like, I've tried this and now he's onto it. I will say it's gifted. You say someone gave it to you. I'll buy things and be like,
Starting point is 00:52:58 where did you get that dress from? I'll be like, oh, the brand sent it to me. They just asked me if I wanted it. They just went, yeah. There's a receipt in here. I think they have to send that for their tax purposes. Yeah. So I don't know how to divert these packages or where to hide them.
Starting point is 00:53:09 You need to just say, chat, chat, chat to the courier. Yeah, get a secret box. Always the same courier. Semi-rural, it's always the same courier. Always. Have a chit-chat. Okay. Have a chit-chat to them.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Just get them to like poke it in the hedge. There is a hedge. Or just leave like a HelloFresh box out. Oh, yes. And he puts it in that and then you tape the box up. But we leave like a HelloFresh box out. Oh, yes. And he puts it in that and then you tape the box on. But we don't order HelloFresh. Say they sent you one. That's always sending people one.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Yeah, but then I'll be cooking my same boring dinner and he'll be like, this sucks. Say, oh, it was rotten. Let's destroy the HelloFresh brand. I guess HelloFresh sent me a rotten box. That's why we're having this awful chicken dinner. All right. Vaughn's pick for Friday flashback is next.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Struggling. Well, I had one and you two were like, I don't think that's appropriate. Then I found another one and you were like, you can't play that one this week. Which is a great song, but perhaps just with current climate. A little tone deaf. A little slightly tone deaf.
Starting point is 00:54:04 The first one or the second one? Both. The first one. What about the second one? That was perhaps the one. That's a banger. That's a banger, but it's also somewhat offensive.
Starting point is 00:54:12 It's offensive. Okay, so get back to searching for a Friday flashback because it's coming up next. Play ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. Play ZM. ZM's Add to Cart. All right, add to cart. Adding all kinds of goodies to our virtual shopping cart throughout the day.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Listener suggestions this week. And the first item. This is Christina from Tauranga has chosen our card today. It is a sun shelter. A fancy looking one, you know, that you pop up on a beach or a camping site. I always see people put those up on the beach. I'm like, it's a lot of effort, isn't it? Like, why are you at the beach if you want to be in the shade?
Starting point is 00:55:00 Because you want swift access to the ocean, but you also want to sometimes retreat from the sun, the harsh New Zealand sun. Into a sauna. You open up the back, breeze comes right through. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's bloody good. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Bloody good. All right, we'll put that down. Georgia will give you the next item at a cart at 11 o'clock. And then again, two and four if you're the first through at five o'clock this afternoon. You can list everything in our cart. You win it all. I'll walk you through the process this morning.
Starting point is 00:55:34 It's been a journey. I thought, what a week for the R.E.M. song It's the End of the World. Because that is such a good song. It's got a real pick on it. It's got a good speed. It's been in of the world. Because that is such a good song. It's got a real pick on it. It's got a good speed.
Starting point is 00:55:50 It's been in a lot of movies, hasn't it? It's from the 80s. It's one of their earlier songs. I've got a little... It's got a catchy hook. Do you want a little taste? Do you want a little taste? A little sample. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Go to the... Go to the hook. It takes like, we established this before, it takes like a minute to get there. Yeah, it's a whole... It's hard to pick when the hook's coming because it's just four words. We're ages away.
Starting point is 00:56:18 As we know it, it's the end of the world. Great song. You guys thought it was... Well, it's an inappropriate Vaughn. It's the end of the world as we... Great song. Great song. You guys thought it was... Well, it's an inappropriate vaude. Russia's invading the Ukraine. Well, it was just everything's happening, isn't it? Like, climate change seems to have really been like,
Starting point is 00:56:35 oh, COVID's getting the attention, is it? Well, take this, everybody. Here's some extreme weather. So I feel like, you know, it definitely feels like it. And then I thought of another song, sort of a 70s disco number that's popular because of TikTok. Rasputin.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Because it's about this... Yeah, again. About an appropriate... A Russian. But I don't think he was part of the... Unappropriate. Unappropriate. His name is literally Rasputin. An appropriate. A Russian. But I don't think he was part of the Putin. An appropriate. An appropriate. His name is literally Rasputin.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Which means not the Putin when translated from. It feels a little pro-Russia. That's what I was worried about. It feels a little pro-Russia. I don't want to come across pro-Russian. A lot of good Russians out there, but at the moment, they're getting a bad rap. So I've done what anybody can do at any time.
Starting point is 00:57:26 You've fallen back on a classic. Fallen back on the perhaps the most reliable woman that I've ever known, that I haven't really ever known, personally. But you feel like you do? But I feel like I do. She's got a hell of a story. She lived
Starting point is 00:57:42 in New Zealand for a while, didn't she? She did. She owned land in Wanaka. She's got Kiwi energy, eh? She lived in New Zealand for a while, didn't she? She did. She owned land in Wanaka. She's got Kiwi energy, eh? Yeah. She connects with the land. You can imagine her lining up at the Wanaka New World. And then her husband, who she owned the land with and had produced a multitude of her songs,
Starting point is 00:57:56 who she met through his role as her producer, left her for her friend. That's right. It was a really interesting podcast. Yeah. 90 Songs of the 90s. Oh,. Yeah. 90 songs of the 90s. Oh, so good. The episode on Shania Twain is just like, it made me love her even more.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Same. My father, I think, would still say his favorite musician of all time. Huge Shania guy. Huge Shania. Who would have thought, eh? Who would have thought? Huge Shania guy. So, um.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Shania Twain, by the way. You just dropped the Shania in there. Oh, yeah, Shania Twain. I think Shania's synonymous without the Twain even now. Yeah. Of course. I don't know a lot of Shanias. I would have thought there would have been a boom of Shanias
Starting point is 00:58:39 in the late 90s, early 2000s. It'd be coming through now, but... This was released just before Christmas in 1998. There was an original album version. However, I think we're playing the dance mix edit, which charted a whole lot better, including an absolute top status, number one in New Zealand.
Starting point is 00:58:58 From the Queen herself. It's your Friday flashback. ZM. herself. It's your Friday flashback. Sit in. You're a regular, original, I know it all I would think you're special I would think you're something else Okay, so you're a rocket scientist That don't impress me much So you got the brains, but have you got the touch? Now don't get me wrong, yeah, I think you're all right.
Starting point is 00:59:46 But that won't keep me warm in the middle of the night. That don't impress me much. Uh-huh, yeah, yeah. I never knew a guy who carried a mirror in his pocket And a comb up his sleeve just in case And all that extra hotel in your hair I'd lock it, cause heaven forbid It should fall out of place
Starting point is 01:00:16 Oh, oh, you think you're special Oh, oh, you think it's something else Okay, so you're Brad Pitt. me warm in the middle of the night that don't impress me much yeah You're one of those guys who likes to shine his machine Yeah, baby, take off my shoes before you let me in I can't believe you kiss your car at night Now come on, baby, tell me You must be choking, right? Oh, oh, you think it's something special
Starting point is 01:01:20 Oh, oh, you think it's something else Okay, so you got a car That don't impress me much Oh, oh, oh So you got the moves, but have you got the touch? Now don't get me wrong, yeah, I think you're alright But that won't keep me warm in the middle of the night That don't impress me much
Starting point is 01:01:44 That don't impress me much. Don't impress me. Oh, oh, oh, girl, you think you're cool, but have you got the touch? Now, now, don't get me wrong, yeah, I think you're all right, but that won't keep me warm on the long, cold, lonely nights that don't impress me much. Uh-huh, yeah, yeah Okay, so what do you think? You're Elvis or something? It's your Friday flashback on ZM Shania Twain
Starting point is 01:02:19 and it wasn't a remix. It wasn't the radio edit. It's the CD version. That was OG. That was the slow- It's the CD version. That was OG. That was the slow- It's the CD version. I just feel like with everything that's happening in the world at the moment, it was quite nice to just lean back and have a bit of a-
Starting point is 01:02:31 It was. It felt good. Calm country energy. No, you felt good to lean back. You messed up, Morn. Lean back. You messed up. Can I say you messed up?
Starting point is 01:02:38 Because if it was up to me, we would have played R.E.M. is the end of the world. And I was like- Wouldn't you rather get texts of people being like, oh, this is a bit slow, than people being like, this is immensely offensive, given the situation in Ukraine. They would have been leaning into it. Someone just messaged in,
Starting point is 01:02:49 I would have totally leaned into the REM end of the world. In an ironic sense. Is that person messaging Ukrainian? Pardon me? Are they a Ukrainian? A Ukrainian citizen? Well, I hope not. Somebody said,
Starting point is 01:03:03 the gold-r a Brad Pitt diss track At the height of his fame and good looks Was absolutely a baller move from Shania Twain Now here she explains this in this podcast I'll give you a quick rundown She said she needed one person That summed up A really, really good looking guy
Starting point is 01:03:19 And she said Brad Pitt Was what she could fit because she had two syllables Oh, it couldn't be George Clooney. No, three syllables. At the time, you name any other heartthrob of the late 90s that rolls off the tongue as quick as Brad Pitt. Freddie Prince Jr. No. There's five.
Starting point is 01:03:33 There's too many. Yeah. So what? You think you're Brad Pitt? Josh Hartnett. No. Yeah, couldn't have done it. Leonardo DiCaprio.
Starting point is 01:03:41 So what? You think you're Leonardo DiCaprio? That don't impress me much. Am I a bad person? All right, into am I a bad person. We received a message in. We have, but this one's true to my heart. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:56 I read it and I was like, get a grip. We'll see what you think. Help, guys. It starts. Help, guys. My boyfriend friend. Boyfriend? My boyfriend. It starts. Help, guys. My boyfriend, friend. Boyfriend? My boyfriend.
Starting point is 01:04:07 My boyfriend. My boyfriend isn't getting the hint after five years together. And this is where I said get a grip because I waited nine. I'm 28. I want kids and I'm ready to get this show on the road. We've talked about marriage and kids, so I know we're both on the same page, but why isn't he locking this down? Am I a bad person if
Starting point is 01:04:27 I give him an ultimatum? A date. Like a proposed by June. You go like, by the end of the year, I want to be engaged. And by the end of next year, we're going to be wed. Now, five years together, it's a long time. And if they've already discussed marriage and kids,
Starting point is 01:04:44 I'm like, that's great that you know you're on the same page. As I mentioned, I had to wait nine. It's now been 11 and we're still not married. So don't get too excited that the engagement suddenly means you can have a wedding on the horizon because that's also not happening. But it also blows my mind that someone can be like, I want to be with you forever, but unless you ask me a question, I'm willing to leave.
Starting point is 01:05:06 It is strange. Yes. That's like guns drawn. Yeah. Sort of like there's two ways this can end, happily ever after or you will never see me again. Yeah, you're the love of my life. And the difference is going to be one question.
Starting point is 01:05:19 I so aggressively want to spend the rest of my life with you that if you don't ask me to do so, I'll find someone else. I will find someone else. So that always makes me feel they just want a wedding more than they want the person. Because the person can be committed to you without... Absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:37 I mean, if you live together... It's a diamond in a piece of paper. ...legally tick. Yeah. That's committing anyway. Yeah. Well, you're entitled to half of all his worth. Here's something to throw
Starting point is 01:05:48 into the mix and I would love to wonder what people would think of it. Why doesn't she ask? Well, yeah, she can, can't she? Absolutely. Which is another thing that makes me feel she wants the fairy tale more than the prince. My best friend married her
Starting point is 01:06:04 husband. She just started planning the wedding. So best friend married her husband. She just started planning the wedding. So there was no engagement. She was just like, here's the date, we're getting married. And he was like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:06:12 It's a baller move. Went out, took him shopping, bought the ring. Da da da da. Okay. So there was no like on the knee moment.
Starting point is 01:06:18 It doesn't need to be. If what you want is this kids and marriage thing that you've talked about, does it have to be, because it might be something he's uncomfortable about, does it have to be, because it might be something he's uncomfortable about, does it have to be some big romantic on-the-knee proposal? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Because that freaks people out. Do you think if you wanted kids immediately, you would have waited nine years? No, but if I wanted kids, marriage isn't part of that decision for me. But I understand if she wants the, like, you get married and then you have the kids thing. Nine years, no, too long. I can't believe I waited too long. We're at a standoff.
Starting point is 01:06:52 I told you, I mentioned this a few weeks ago, that Aaron had the ring for a year. Yeah. It's wild. I was so angry. I thought you knew it was happening. Yeah, I know. But then you're like, why not? I think it just makes, I think there's a lot of pressure in this sort of heterosexual setup for the men to do some kind of
Starting point is 01:07:10 amazing proposal that she can tell her friends about. And I don't think it needs to be that. Especially when every week in the news someone's hired at a movie cinema or done a flash dance mob thing. Exactly. Or mowing it into a hill. Reanimated Aladdin. That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:07:28 And then so every week there's a story like that and you're like, well, I'm not going to beat that. No, exactly. I would say to this person, I would say, this is how much I want. Do you want to get married? And they'll say yes. And say, well, look, you don't have to ask me. I'm just going to start planning the wedding. Will you marry me?
Starting point is 01:07:43 I'd ask them. And you can go ring shopping together and choose your just going to start planning the wedding. Will you marry me? I'd ask them. And you can go ring shopping together and choose your dream ring. Spin on the head. All right, well, maybe you've been in this situation. Give us a call. 0800 DALS at M. You can text as well, 9696.
Starting point is 01:07:58 Is she a bad person for giving her boyfriend a marriage ultimatum? Yeah. A marry me or it's over. It's big. It is. But maybe you've been in the situation you're as frustrated as she is. Yeah, has anyone actually listening left someone because they didn't propose?
Starting point is 01:08:11 Am I a bad person? Well, a message we received in, an ultimatum. Yeah, a woman has messaged in, her boyfriend isn't giving the hint after five years together. When's he going to propose? Am I a bad person if I give him an ultimatum?
Starting point is 01:08:25 Like, propose by this date or I'm out of here. By Boxing Day. By Boxing Day. Get Christmas out of the way. Maybe New Year's. Boxing Day sales. Like the 5th. It's a busy time of the year. It's so busy. April, is she a bad
Starting point is 01:08:41 person for giving an ultimatum to her boyfriend? I think she's a bad person Wait, what makes you think this? I was with my now husband for 12 years And it was kind of always the understanding Yep, one day we'd get married And, you know, it would have been nice to get the old Down on one knee
Starting point is 01:09:03 But it was literally walked outside and sitting on the outdoor table and it was, should we do it? And I was like, okay. And that was it. That's nice. But then that just sounds like you guys, just pretty low key and. Yeah. Like you're together.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Yeah, but at the end of the day, I was always going to be with him forever, regardless of whether we were married or not. Yeah, that's. Kind of the point we were making, right? Like, do you want to be with him forever regardless of whether we were married or not. Yeah, that's kind of the point we were making, right? Like, do you want to be with him forever or not? Exactly. I don't need nothing fancy. He's the one for me. Yeah, I think unless it's for religious purposes,
Starting point is 01:09:36 if your belief system is about marriage, it's genuinely a party and a piece of paper, isn't it? Exactly. And it's spending a whole lot of money for everybody to, like you said, have a party and a piece of paper, isn't it? Exactly, and it's spending a whole lot of money for everybody to, like you said, have a party. Drink your booze and eat your food and then go on. Well, it sounds like you can have a nice party on the deck.
Starting point is 01:09:52 We've got the outdoor furniture. Yeah, exactly. Don't need to spend all this money on a wedding. All right, April, thanks for your call. Kerry, what do you think? Is she a bad person for wanting an ultimatum? Is she a bad person for wanting an ultimatum? Is she a bad person for wanting an ultimatum? I mean, it depends on how you see it of the ultimatum.
Starting point is 01:10:12 To me, it was something I wanted to be together with the person and we were together for three or four years and he didn't know whether he wanted to get married or not. So I sort of said, well, hey, if you don't know, then I'm obviously not the one for you. So this depends on how it all comes out, really. Was it that he wanted to, he wasn't sure if he wanted marriage in terms of what that is, or he wasn't sure if he wanted like a long term future with you? No, he didn't. He was like marriage. He just, married, and they were kind of in an open relationship, so we say.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Oh, hello. Yeah. So he thought it was just a piece of paper, and to me it was completely different. Right. Just sort of marriage differently. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To me it was like, I want to have a family with you and all the rest. So we ended up, I said, well, if you don't know, then obviously I need to kind of move
Starting point is 01:11:07 on if you're not sure. And so we ended up splitting. We, I moved out for about, we still saw each other kind of. And then we got back together six years later. He ended up proposing to me in Zundies, which was fantastic. Sort of Darren. You got back together six years later. No, no.
Starting point is 01:11:34 So we'd been going out six years and he finally asked me to get married. And then we got married about a year later. We've been married for 23 years, but together for 30. Oh, there you go. It all worked out in the end. Kerry, thank you. Kelsey, what do you think?
Starting point is 01:11:48 Is she a bad person for wanting an ultimatum? I think you've got to be careful about how you word the ultimatum. Yes. So, yeah, if she said propose or I'm out of here, then bad person. Yep. But I gave my partner the ultimatum of you have until the end of the year to propose otherwise I'm going to do it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:09 That's an ultimatum that you're getting married either way. You're not going to leave you. I'm not leaving you. Yeah, but we're getting married. And we'd already talked about it. We'd only been together a year, but I was like, yep, you've got until the end of the year to propose otherwise I'm going to do it. Handbrake there. Only been together a year. You're like, do it by the end of the year or I. Can't break that. Only been together a year.
Starting point is 01:12:26 You're like, do it by the end of the year or I'll do it. Wow. Jesus. There's a bit of an age gap. He's quite a bit older. He wanted kids already. Right. I was like, Cole, we're in this for the long haul.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Yeah. Like, if you want kids and stuff, this is where I'm at. Let's get it going. And how long did it take him to propose? Only a couple of months, and it was very low-key, down on one knee before he went to bed one night, and his PJ is, like, very chilled. Could he get back up again, or is he dead?
Starting point is 01:12:54 Hell yeah, how old are we talking? It's not that big. He gets down, he's like, and I'm going to need a hand back up. No, no, no, there's eight years between us. He was only in his mid-thirties. Early thirties, yeah. Amazing. Kelsey, thanks so much for your call. Some messages
Starting point is 01:13:11 in. Is she a bad person for a marriage ultimatum? I gave an ultimatum and we just celebrated our eighth wedding anniversary. Does he want to be there though? So that worked. But then I like the wording that Kelsey said. Yeah, same. Like, look,
Starting point is 01:13:28 you've got this date, otherwise I'm just going to move things along quicker. Someone said it's not just partying in a paper, it's awful once you have kids and people's constant judgment, constant questioning if they're yours because they have his last name and not mine. But you could just snaffle his last
Starting point is 01:13:43 name. Oh, you absolutely could. I'd just start using his last name. Snaffle up his last name. Oh, you absolutely could. Yeah. I'd just start using his last name. Snaffle up his last name. Unless it's a bad last name. Proposing is a lot of pressure and it's not a competition, but I did it at sunset on a boat in Santorini. Oh my god. It's not a competition.
Starting point is 01:14:02 It is funny though, when you are waiting to be proposed to and you go to a romantic area, there is something in you that's like, no, no, no, no, no. I remember being in Thailand on a remote island being like, now would be nice. Nope. But it was what, in his undies in your room?
Starting point is 01:14:16 In his undies in a flat that we were staying in short term. Very romantic. It was, actually. It was nice. Play. ZDM's Fletchvorn and Hayley. Romantic It was actually It was nice Today's fact of the day Is about Slavbard. Slavbard.
Starting point is 01:14:50 It's a Norwegian, it is part of the Kingdom of Norway. It's an island far north of Europe though. Very, very far north. So much so, where did it tell me the climate? The average summer temperature is 4 to 7 degrees Celsius. Oh, yeah. Goodness. Barmy.
Starting point is 01:15:09 That's 4 to 7, not 47. Oh, it's an archipelago. It is an archipelago. An archipelago. A series of Islands. I believe that's how it's pronounced. Yeah. Islandes.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Wow. Oh, it's way away from Norway. Way, away, way, away. Slav, bard. Well, it stood for, the etymology of it is Viking, old Norse word, slav meaning cold. Yeah. It's particularly cold here.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Slav, bard, and bard meaning edge or like ridge. Right. The first explorers that discovered it, the Vikings, and then whaling stations and stuff. It's kind of very inhospitable, very, very cold, very hard to live in. Mining operations there. But today's fact of the day is it's illegal to die there.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Oh, okay. Why? It's illegal to die there. They don't have a morgue. Oh, yeah. If you know that you're unwell, if you know that you're dying, you've got to go back to the mainland of Norway, where you will be looked after.
Starting point is 01:16:17 They've got a pretty good public health system over there, those Scandi countries. They look after their people. They do. But it just can't handle the dead bodies. Right. Plus, there's lots of polar bears. So I feel like if you die, you probably attract the bears.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Yeah. You don't want to like look, be like granddad. And he's out in the garden. I mean, nothing's going to grow. It's too cold. But granddad. And he's outside and you're like, oh no. So when you say it's illegal.
Starting point is 01:16:45 It's illegal. Like they won't got a taste for it. So when you say it's illegal. It's illegal. Like they won't allow you to do it effectively. The government won't allow you to die there. If they know you're going to die or if it looks like you're going to die, they get you out of there as soon as possible. But what if you die suddenly? Would you get a fine? I guess they'll just take you away. They'll get you out of there.
Starting point is 01:17:00 It looks like big buildings and stuff on there. Mining. Mining, right? Yeah, mining. There's like abandoned Russian stuff on there. Mining. Mining. Yeah, mining. There's like abandoned Russian mining. It's amazing. It looks fake.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Do you know what else is there? The seed? Yeah, the seed vault. The seed vault. With all the seeds from all over the world. For the future. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:18 For the future. It looks amazing. It's insanely picturesque, the photos I've been looking at. Bananas. Does the Seed Vault have... Pumpkins? Karaka?
Starting point is 01:17:30 Pohutukawa? I think so. I think you submit... Porphy? Yeah, you submit... And there's a backup Seed Vault. There is? There is, and it was in...
Starting point is 01:17:40 Where was Gaddafi? Libya. There was one in Libya as well and they were considered the backup but they did have some stuff in there that was pretty important so when there was civil war there they sent it all up to Slavbard. They like scientists did this. Was it a podcast
Starting point is 01:17:56 I listened to? There might be a documentary about this rogue group of scientists that went behind war lines to like extract seeds and then get them up to Slavard. So I found a story from 2016 it says here the first ever samples of New Zealand
Starting point is 01:18:11 seeds have arrived at the seed vault. Fantastic! Have you got what we sent? Here's some school children with some glad bags full of seeds. You won't beat a pahutukawa but it would never be summery enough there for the red. No, but they're not saying they're going to plant them.
Starting point is 01:18:26 No, no, no. Yeah, I know, but they don't get to enjoy. They're harbouring them, but they never get to enjoy them. No, I know. See the beauty of them. We gave them a doctor from Ag Research, left New Zealand with a precious cargo of 1.8 kilograms of ryegrass and white clover seeds,
Starting point is 01:18:40 and their wild relatives. No, they didn't send them the huckery grass that the cows eat? I'm mowing mine the whole time. It's a pain in the ass. 726 packets of seeds. But all different varieties. All different, of all kinds of stuff.
Starting point is 01:18:58 Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's 4.5 million seed samples there. Yeah, it's pretty rad. Definitely look that up. I know that if you're a scientist working there and then you've got to be sick. That's per type. 4.5 million types of seeds
Starting point is 01:19:11 with about 500 seeds of each type. So there's 2.25 billion seeds there. Wow. God, let's hope the polar bears don't get in. They've got to lock on the stalk. They've got to make
Starting point is 01:19:19 a bloody good muesli. Oh my God, yes. All the seeds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have they got chia? Yeah. They don't have everything. What were you going to say?
Starting point is 01:19:30 Ryegrass. You're like, why are we sending ryegrass to the seed vault? It contributes $15 million a year in New Zealand. Jeepers. It contributes $15 million a year. Yeah, I don't know what that means. I've never seen ryegrass in the wallet. Farming.
Starting point is 01:19:42 Ryegrass pulls its weight. I guess because your farmers grow it, so it's all... It would be way more than that. In a roundabout way, you mean. In a roundabout way, yeah. It would be more than 15 years. Well, I don't know, Vaughan. That's what the article says.
Starting point is 01:19:53 Break it down! Break it down! Do a quiz on seed facts. You're on big ryegrass money. I accuse you, sir. At the moment, this was in 2016, there were 860,000 packets of seeds in the seed vault. So good.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Amazing. So you can't be buried there, though, because the permafrost means that your body will never decompose because it never gets warm enough. There would be corpses lying around. Yeah, yeah. Like when I climbed Everest. I had to go over all those fallen mountaineers.
Starting point is 01:20:23 Indeed. Yeah. Made it all the more horrible. He stole that jacket off one of them too. I thought that was a bit disrespectful. I was cold. I was cold. You were just like, it looks vintage, but I know it is vintage.
Starting point is 01:20:32 An absolute bleak fact to tag to the end of that. And he took the jacket. Jesus. So today's fact of the day is Slavbard, an amazing island that you should definitely spend some of your weekend time having a quick gurgle of. Mum's just asked if ryegrass is a cereal or a grain. Oh, don't get us started, Mum. Rye.
Starting point is 01:20:52 That's a very good rye. Rye where you can make bread out of it. Yeah, don't even. Tell you what's not a cereal. Oh, do you know what's the scientific name? Do you know the scientific name of ryegrass? Cical cereal. I guess that's another one for the Biv and Vaughan Cereal Alliance.
Starting point is 01:21:09 So today's fact of the day is Slabard, an amazing island north of Europe. Norway. Under the Norwegian flag. It's illegal to die there. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Ryegrass. We're talking about rye and how it's sent rye. And we were all like, what's ryegrass done for us? To the seed vault in Norway so it's safe. A ryegrass grower has messaged. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:21:52 Do we have ryegrass growers listening to the show? We do. On the regular. That's incredible. We need to talk about ryegrass more. To get that ryegrass market. Yeah, exactly. Ryegrass market.
Starting point is 01:22:02 We are ryegrass growers. We do it for the seed. It has grown 12 months of the year. And then they just go through when it's high, take the seeds off, sell them international. Huge international demand for New Zealand ryegrass. What do they put? Do they put it in bread or something? No, they plant it.
Starting point is 01:22:16 I'm assuming they then plant the grass so they can have a crop. We grow ryegrass. We cut it off and sell it to people so they can grow ryegrass. Ryegrass. And then they sell it for more ryegrass. We cut it off and sell it to people so they can grow ryegrass. And then they sell it for more ryegrass. They're probably doing it for the bread. Right. Give a man ryegrass.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Give a man ryegrass seeds and he'll feed him for a life of bread. And then he'll be able to fish. He'll fish for a week. Plant. And then he'll be able to fish. Give him the seeds. He'll fish for a week. For the plant. And he'll grow a grass.
Starting point is 01:22:48 Guys, put this straight on a bumper sticker. Boom. And he'll grow a grass. Yeah, he will. Boom. Absolutely. Thank you for messaging in.
Starting point is 01:22:55 Also, you've been saying I want to see your machinery too. Please send me videos of your machinery doing its thing. You've been corrected on the Slav. It's not Slav, but it's Sval.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Sval. Do we have some Norwegian listeners? So do let us know how... I only know Norwegian swear words. Okay, right. I want to call out a behaviour because I want it to end. Okay. It's 2022.
Starting point is 01:23:16 I don't think we need to be doing this anymore. Is it invading other countries? Yeah. Is it denying science? Yeah. But more importantly, stop phone calling
Starting point is 01:23:29 and leaving a message. It's not on. We can't do it anymore. It's 2022. Voice memo, text, email. Do you know Ross Boss has the ultimate. His voicemail is don't leave me a message, text me. Yeah, I might say that too. I'm not going to check this. Flick me a message, text me. Yeah, mine says that too.
Starting point is 01:23:45 I'm not going to check this. Flick me a text. The only personal excuse for leaving a voicemail is my nan. I'll say if it's nan, drop me a voicemail. I'll call you back. Or I'll say it's your number, I'll call you back. That's actually just answered my problem because I'm going to have to do that when I leave today is change my very warm and welcoming
Starting point is 01:24:01 voicemail thing. How does your voicemail go? I can't remember. It's just, I think I say a joke because often when I get a message, it'll be like, oh, Hayley.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Oh, Hayley, Hayley. You've got chlamydia or something. No, I don't. Anyway, but yesterday, yesterday, before 12pm, I'd missed three phone calls. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:23 All of whom left a message. And it just like spiraled anxiety in me. But like, who are these people? What do they want? Now I've got to listen to this thing. And worse off, then I called my inbox and it was like, you have three new messages and 15 saved messages. And I'm like, I don't know how to delete them.
Starting point is 01:24:41 I don't know what the number is. I always either press three or five. I feel like that does something. Three or five. But one of them is like, I don't know how to delete them. I don't know what the number is. I always either press three or five. I feel like that does something. I hate three or five, but one of them is like call them back. Oh, no. And one of them is delete. Now, are you Spark? I'm Spark.
Starting point is 01:24:52 So Spark had the thing where you can have the, it transcribes your messages. You get an app, voicemail, Spark voicemail, and it goes through, it's sometimes terrible at translating. Yeah, but it gives you the gist of it. And then you can literally press delete. And it goes through, it's sometimes terrible at translating. Yeah. But it gives you the gist of it. And then you can literally press delete and it's gone.
Starting point is 01:25:11 I need it. I don't know why it gives me such anxiety. I always feel like maybe it's from my days as like a broke freelancer where I was constantly thinking it was like ACC or IRD or someone just wanting something from me. Money. Money. Money they didn't have. You just paying your levies and taxes like a normal citizen. Sometimes.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Anyway, I just think in 2022, that's not how we communicate. No, text. Text, email. Email. That voicemail to text thing, it's happened more than once. People will be like, hi, Vaughan. And it translates into, hi, hon. So it sounds really like Patsy.
Starting point is 01:25:51 Yeah, yeah. Really Patsy. Hi, hon. It's Rachel here calling from so-and-so. Yeah. I think we've got to cut it out. Hear me now. No more calling.
Starting point is 01:26:01 If it rings and rings and rings, hang up. Yeah, change your voicemail too. Just don't, hey, you're hearing this, don't leave a voicemail. If your phone rings and you don't know the number, do you just let it ring, divert it? Sometimes. Yeah, sometimes when I'm feeling brave, I'll answer it. But my idea is if it's a cell number, I'm always like,
Starting point is 01:26:19 they can just text me. Yeah. But if it's like a landline or something, I'm going to imagine it's like a doctor or some kind of appointment thing. I'll answer that. Yeah, right. I just don't want to answer my phone at all unless it's like my mum. But then also the last year there's been so many spam calls.
Starting point is 01:26:35 Oh, so many. Do you get those? I love talking to them. You say my favourite is to lean in, engage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Tell me more. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:42 Okay, I'm going to change my voicemail to quite an aggressive. Leave a message only. Yeah. No, no, no, don't leave a message Don't, just, I'd say hang up Just don't bother with me Hang up, I don't want to talk to you I have seen this because I'm always on my phone I'm choosing to ignore you Goodbye Hailey, silly little pole, silly little pole. It is so silly, silly, silly that the silly little pole,
Starting point is 01:27:09 silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole. So I just figured out you've got control of turning our mics on and off, but if we just push these, we can overrule you and just turn it back on. Only if your fader is up. But the faders, that one's just, you reach over from there and slide all three up. And we can stick along. You don't have as much power as I originally thought, Carl Fletcher.
Starting point is 01:27:33 He's a puppet. I'm a puppet, yeah. He's a puppet for Putin. No, he's not. Puppet for Putin. Puppet for Putin. A silly little poll today. This really triggered a lot of people.
Starting point is 01:27:44 Yeah. And I'm really surprised at the poll results We're wondering if it's a large out of Auckland voting here No, it's just introverts and socially anxious Gen Zers And people who secretly don't like their friends Okay, well today's silly little poll we asked you Do you secretly miss lockdown? Now 67% of people said, yeah, I loved it.
Starting point is 01:28:06 Now, this is purely lockdown for its non-economic impact. This is just purely on a social, oh, damn, can't go anywhere, shucks. Being inside, can't socialise, despite losing your job. Just over it. Most of my socialising online. Yeah. So I'm fine. I liked it. Just over it. Most of my socialising online. Yeah. So I'm fine. I liked it.
Starting point is 01:28:27 I hated it. Hated it, hated it, hated it. Even the first one? Hated the first one. Loved the first one. Saved so much money. Did big shops. Lived how I used to live when we were kids.
Starting point is 01:28:39 Like one shop a week. Big shop. Yeah. Dinner was, you knew what you were having for dinner because you purchased it at the start of the week. Oh no. No, no, no. It was bad. knew what you were having for dinner because you purchased it at the start of the week. Oh, no. No, no, no. It was bad.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Completely over it. Especially the last lot. So that last one was particularly bad last year. And it was also particularly bad because it was Auckland. Yeah. And then everyone out of Auckland was having a lovely time. Friends from Wellington messaging, Christchurch messaging. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:00 How's this going? You'd see everyone partying. Dude, I'm inside. Yeah. Yeah. So some responses in. Tom said, I'm a courier driver. Enough said.
Starting point is 01:29:10 Little calm face. Yeah, Tommy. Courier driver. Tomo. Tom Tom. Hard. Yeah, because they didn't give any lockdown. They just were dealing with everybody ordering a thousand things.
Starting point is 01:29:18 I mean, Hayley's still reaming them. Oh, I know. I've hit the couriers hard. Keeping them in business, though. Keeping them nice and fit. Got a long driveway. Robin said, and she's, I believe, the careers hard. Keeping them in business, fine. Keeping them nice and fit. Got a long driveway. Robin said, and she's, I believe, a school teacher. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:29 Online teaching sucks. It's like being a kid's TV presenter. Ask a question, smiling at the screen and get nothing back. I was Dora the effing explorer. That was, that, I, teachers did the hard yards there because, you know, the misbehaving kids, they could mute them. Yeah. But then the kid could just walk away. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:49 And they'd be like, well, get back here. No, they're not coming back. Carmen said, I miss it because I saved an F load of money in lockdown. Yeah. Yeah, we saved a lot of money in lockdown too. I didn't because I bought so much booze and did so much online shopping. You'd get drunk and then that would fuel
Starting point is 01:30:08 more online purchases. Online shopping. And then they'd turn up and you'd be like, what is this? My God. You'd find a little note attached to sober Hayley.
Starting point is 01:30:17 Yeah, to sober Hayley. Branch out. Molly said, no, I hated lockdown. I miss takeaways in restaurants too much. Yeah. Jess said, I effing hated lockdown I miss takeaways in restaurants too much yeah Jess said
Starting point is 01:30:27 I effing hated lockdown because I have children and that's an issue you probably have to keep dealing with for a while there Jess because you're legally
Starting point is 01:30:35 obliged to look after those children until they're 18 horrible well there was a study in the UK that I'm just looking at that surveyed people
Starting point is 01:30:44 between 8 and 18 years. One third of them said they were happier in quarantine than out of it. Really? Children? Because they didn't have to go to school and be teased? Yeah, I guess it is hard to be a young person. But I was thinking about this the other day. What's the impact, the long-term impact of growing up in a pandemic
Starting point is 01:31:00 and not going to school and not having the social dances and the dating all that kind of stuff. Will everybody be more introvert when they're adults? More anxious and introverted. Introvert in person, but more extroverted online. Maybe. It's easier to be extroverted online.
Starting point is 01:31:15 We'll wait till we're all living in the metaverse. And John says us non-Aucklanders only really had the 2021. The one last year didn't really count. Yes, that's why I think the vote skewed a little bit. Yeah. Because if you all had to do the Auckland one, you'd be... The Auckland one was bad. Yeah, the last one.
Starting point is 01:31:31 I don't know why, but it was the general consensus. Everyone was like, this one's so much worse. What was the... Weather was getting into spring, so maybe we'd been in winter and then it was getting into spring, so we're starting to get some nicer weather. Maybe that didn't help as well either. So there you go.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Silly little poll. 67% do miss a lockdown. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.

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