ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley Podcast - 25th May 2022

Episode Date: May 24, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:43 apply. And Vaughn, currently in the air, you'll hear us say this, currently flying to LA today, and then in LA and Disneyland for the Star Wars celebrations. He's beside himself with excitement. Though I say this, he was so unprepared. Did you see his Instagram last night? He hadn't even packed and he was leaving in like 30 minutes. Yeah, his wife shot a message and said,
Starting point is 00:01:04 look, I'm so worried about him. I said, look, he's't even packed and he was leaving in like 30 minutes. Yeah, his wife shot a message and said, look, I'm so worried about him. I said, look, he's Stacey's problem. Now, this is Stacey, Ross Boss's wife, who works at Disney. He's her problem now. They're off together. So last minute, so last minute. But we have put in our request for American lollies. Me, particular white M&Ms, because you can't get them here.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Yeah, I was trying to think about the American lollies that I love and you can't get them here. Yeah, I didn't, I was trying to think about the American lollies that I love and I couldn't think of any so I've gone a classic Toblerone. But you can get that here. But I'm out of practice with a Toblerone and there's something exciting
Starting point is 00:01:35 about when someone comes back from overseas and you're like, what did you give me? And you're like, can I fit this whole giant triangle in my gob? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:44 And then it gets stuck on the roof of your mouth. It bruises the roof of your mouth. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and then your dentist is like, what have you been up to? You're like, no, I haven't, no. They can tell. It's Toblerone. Because dentists can tell if you had a giant Toblerone in your mouth.
Starting point is 00:01:56 They can. They can tell. And they know it. Because it hits that spot and they know. It does. Yeah. And they're like, gosh, this girl really loves Toblerone. God, how much Toblerone are you eating, Hayley?
Starting point is 00:02:06 A lot, a lot. It's my favorite chocolate. I can't stop. What are you going to do? So anyway, that's all I've requested is just a big old Toblerone. Something you can get here in New Zealand anytime. Yeah, but what kind of freak, what kind of psychopath goes to the shop and is like, oh, I'm going to get a wee choccy as a treat.
Starting point is 00:02:23 I'll get a Toblerone. A foot and a half long. See, that's how long they are, right? Yeah. Yeah, they're huge. No, no, no, no. Toblerone gifts only. Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Thank you, Rachel. Good morning. Welcome to the show. Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Three minutes past six. Minus Vaughn, who is currently three hours out of LA at the moment. Two and a half hours. But he did just message
Starting point is 00:02:50 us, so I imagine they've got on-air Wi-Fi on his flight. Yeah, we got a picture of him coming down off a Zopla clone sleeping pill. And I imagine a couple of whiskeys at this point. Yeah, didn't look the best.
Starting point is 00:03:06 But yeah, he's off to, if you don't know, LA to Disneyland for Star Wars celebrations. Lucky thing, eh? Is a dream come true for him? Yeah, I think he'll be in tears. I think he's going to embarrass himself at some point, especially if Ewan McGregor turns up. Yeah, well
Starting point is 00:03:22 we've got Ewan McGregor on the show end of the week. He'll be a puddle. Oh, I know. How embarrassing. And you're broadcasting from home, not because you have COVID, but because the great New Zealand biscuits and cake... I'm glad to see you're such a big fan of the show.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Home Economics. The great New Zealand Home Economics Bake Off. The great Kiwi Bake Off starts filming today and I'm so excited. I just want to wrap this up so I can go on set and eat cakes and biscuits. But yes, I am from home, so you're in the studio by yourself, you big lone. Very alone. Alone in the studio. But we do have a couple of guests joining us today on the show. Ursula Carlson will be with us at about 20 past 7 this morning. She's got
Starting point is 00:04:05 a new tour. Yeah, she's been touring around Australia, absolutely killing it, to be fair, and playing to like thousands and thousands of people every night. And finally, she's going to give it to us now. All right. And check to her about her new show. Also, Ben Barrington, 10 to 8
Starting point is 00:04:21 this morning from Shortland Street, who has been Vaughan's stunt double before. So it'll be like Vaughan's hair to talk about the 30th year of Shortland Street. I reckon we could get Ben to just stay. Just stay for the days that Vaughan's away. It's a great idea. No one will notice he could do the top six. Well, we have a space coming up that is possible.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Okay, let's do it. Next on the show, trends. Yeah, I'm down with all of the trends. And I've actually got the hottest wedding trend of 2022. Despite my wedding being miles away. Wedding trends. We're talking wedding trends. We're talking wedding trends. And I don't mean flower crowns or ginormous.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Was it Versace trains? If you've just seen Kourtney Kardashian's third wedding to Travis Barker. Too long. Did you see this? The train was too long or the wedding was too long? All of it, yeah. Just enough. You've had three weddings.
Starting point is 00:05:27 You've had calm down. Yeah, but those are not the trends. Apparently the hottest wedding trend for 2022 is pets. Bringing your pets to your wedding. What's that? What's the adage in film and TV or entertainment? Never work with pets or children. Yeah, pets and children.
Starting point is 00:05:45 It's impossible. It's impossible because you know, they just do what they want. You can't talk to them. No. They're unruly. But apparently it's the hottest trend of 2022 is having your pets involved because they're like, it's the biggest day of your life. All of your loved ones are there except for your beloved
Starting point is 00:06:02 pets. So people are either just having them attending the weddings or, you know, like getting them involved. You would have seen like little puppies running down the aisle with a little ring attached to his collar or something like that or just having them there as guests. So people are chiming in and saying why they wanted their pets at their weddings. One couple said it was very important to us that they were there on our big day
Starting point is 00:06:28 because they are the two creatures we spent the most time with and the two creatures that bring us the most joy. I will say looking at these stories, predominantly dogs. Don't know how it would go, Fletch. You couldn't have a cat at a wedding unless it was one of those chill old cats. You know those cats that are always on the counters of dairies or like shop cats shop cats that are chill that would just sit there and don't mind a hundred people that's not my cat i mean your cat's an indoor cat so for starters
Starting point is 00:06:57 he'd be like what oh i had freak out he'd run away yeah and rolly yeah rolly is unruly hates uh hates strangers hates hates people. Also, seeing your cat this morning on the, because you're broadcasting from home, I can see on the Zoom, your cat has a Hitler mustache. Does he? Raleigh? Kind of does.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Come here, I need to see your problematic mustache. I mean, it's not like exactly, but it's, you know, it's under the nose. He's definitely got like some strange markings. Okay, I'm going to try and get him in later. We'll take a picture and we'll put it to the people, whether or not my cat is Hitler reincarnate. So most people are bringing dogs, but some people bring in their horses. I guess that can, but then they can be spooked as well.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Imagine if a horse gets spooked and does a runner through the tent, the marquee. Yeah, you're getting drop kicked by a horse on your wedding day. No thanks. No. I'm going a pet-free wedding when it happens, and I'm probably also going to go a child-free wedding. Also, when it happens, you've been waiting nine years. You've been engaged nine years.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Not quite nine years, but've been waiting nine years. You've been engaged nine years. Not quite nine years. But yeah, I am waiting. The ring's starting to burn a bit of a hole on my finger. I tell you what. One day. When the day comes, Rolly won't be there. And all these trends will be yesterday's trends. Yeah, Rolly can't be there either.
Starting point is 00:08:19 What if I choose to do like a woman's day shoot and then everyone just talks about my Hitler cat? I can't be having it. ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. ZM Fletch Vaughan and Hayley, born currently on an Air New Zealand flight to Los Angeles, on his way to Disneyland for Star Wars celebrations. Let's hope he sobers up before he gets there. He's had a couple of whiskeys and a little Sleepy Deepy pill.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Could look at least somewhat like coherent when you go through customs at LAX. Yeah. They have guns. It's a scary place. They certainly do. When is the last time you used a payphone box? Oh, God. Like, it would have been when I was like a teenager.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Because when I was a teenager, phones were still quite fresh, like cell phones were still quite fresh. So, yeah, it would have been when I was a teenager, ran out of credit maybe, had to ring my mum with a 20 cent coin. But you still, because they turned them into card phones at some stage, eh? And then that was really hard because you'd have to go to a dairy and get a card. But then, of course, now everybody has a cell phone
Starting point is 00:09:25 and there are 2,000 payphones left in New Zealand. You mean toilets for drunkards? Yes. Let's be honest. Like one, I saw one this morning on Auckland's Queen Street that had been hit by a car. I'm assuming not ram rated because there's nothing in there. What are they going to steal?
Starting point is 00:09:47 Try to get the coins from the machine. But they don't use coins anymore. They're just card slot things. So I'm thinking that was an accident. Although in saying that, all of the stores, you know, like all the flash stores on Queen Street now have like security people outside them. Like Chanel and Louis Vuitton.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Yeah, just in case someone ram raids them. But there are 2,000 payphone booths nationwide. And they're going to start getting rid of them. Spark is hanging up on the phone booths. Apparently, the council will start in June. 180 phone booths will be switched off on Auckland's North Shore and East and Wellington South in the first year. And then, yeah, just phasing them out.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Why didn't they convert them into something cool like a kissing booth and then a little changing room? A spark changing room. Yeah, or they could have had one with mirrors and stuff and you can go in and touch up your mascara. Yeah, but they all smell like piss. They all smell like piss. That's the problem. So apparently
Starting point is 00:10:51 call volumes on phone booths have declined nearly 70% over the last four years. Approximately 90% of phone boxes are still being used for an average of less than three minutes a day. Yeah. Because they did day yeah oh because they did a while ago they did put like free wi-fi hot spots on the top of them so if you're a smart customer
Starting point is 00:11:11 you could use them but i mean they were a pretty average at best i think yeah ever heard of like 4g yeah you don't need wi-fi when we're out and about get data exactly some data um and also a fun little side fact um there are half a million households that still use the phone, you know, have a phone line that's copper wire that isn't the internet or naked broadband. Yeah, so there are, but I'm imagining old people, right? Older people, yeah. Definitely, or like people like Aaron's parents, for example,
Starting point is 00:11:42 they use their phone line predominantly. Like if you want to get hold of them, you ring them at home. Yeah. On their phone line. But we got rid of ours when we were like, when I was still living at home when I was a teenager. So years ago. You don't need it.
Starting point is 00:11:56 And also some areas can't get broadband, right? Like in the middle of the whops. Yeah, true. In the middle of nowhere. I mean, that's on you for choosing to live in the whops. Hey phones, not that you probably cared because you for choosing to live in the WAPs. Hayphones. Not that you probably cared because you weren't using them anyway, but RIP.
Starting point is 00:12:10 It sucks that they're not, like, cute and vintage like the ones in London, like the weird phone boxes, because then you could, like, buy them and be like, look, this is cute, but, like, our ones are so ugly. Yeah, nobody's putting a Spark phone box in their backyard as a vintage kind of a centrepiece. Oh, a little greenhouse. You could have as a little greenhouse.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Oh, yeah. Nice idea. Grow your herbs. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. And Rolly the cat's on Zoom. Yeah, I'm just trying to show you. It's not a Hitler moustache. It's one-sided.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Look at me. Anna, what do we think? Is that a Hitler moustache on Rolly? Rolly? What are you saying? It's a semi-Hitler moustache. It's one-sided. It's a lopsided.
Starting point is 00:12:52 That was a great timing meow too from Raleigh. That was fantastic. He's a good boy. Now, someone who's not having a very good day, the Swedish employees of a company called Klana. Now, Klana is like a buy now, pay later service. Like, you know, lay buys. Yep.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Like Afterpay. The Swedish Afterpay. Swedish Afterpay. I can't afford it all now, but I want this thing, so I do the Klana. I'm going to Klana it. Really want this jacket because it's so cold at the moment, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:25 but I can't quite afford the whole thing, so I'll do Klana. Anyway, the employees of Klana, they've got 7,000 employees, 700 of whom received an email the other day. Okay. And it was a prerecorded video message from their CEO laying them off as a group. Oh, wow. 10% of their company were laid off after receiving this group email that they were all BCC'd into
Starting point is 00:13:55 so you couldn't see who else got it. Got fired. Wait, are you allowed to do that? I feel like no. Like bulk fire people in an email with a pre-recorded video message? Surely there's an HR issue, right? Like about well-being?
Starting point is 00:14:11 I think so, yeah. No, it all just went like, you know how when we're at work and we're like chatting and then all of our laptops go ding? And we're like, oh, we've all received the same email. It would have just been like that except the email was like, hey, hey, Klana.
Starting point is 00:14:29 It's the guy who wanted the jacket. He's like, hey, Klana employees, I hope you're having such a lovely day. We no longer need your services, so like goodbye to you. Apparently they're citing the war in Ukraine as why the value of the company's gone down and why they can't afford to keep these 700 employees. Highly volatile stock market and a likely recession on its way.
Starting point is 00:14:53 But still, do it face to face, right? Yeah, I know. But if you were the CEO and you had to fire 700 people, that's exhausting, isn't it? Yeah. Guess what? You make a big line and everyone in the line knows what's coming, so maybe it is the best way to do it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Yeah, you have them in the waiting room, 700 people in the waiting room, and one by one they go in and they come out in tears. Yeah. And eventually I reckon the rest of the group gets it. And you just wouldn't bother going in, right? Because you just know. Yeah, you'd just be like, I guess I'm getting fired, I'm not gonna stick around for this. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:15:25 I don't think there's any good way to fire 700 people in one go. As long as there's enough time to steal something from the stationary cupboard, from the staff kitchen, take a ream of photocopy paper, you know, just. Well, they can absolutely afford it. The company is valued at currently
Starting point is 00:15:41 30 billion. Oh, wow. Okay, times are tough, huh? 700 people? Yeah, times are real tough for Klano. So apparently, according to this study, men who maintain a sexualised presence on dating apps are less appealing to women.
Starting point is 00:16:03 So sexualised appearance can be anything from a shirtless photo to sort of explicitly saying in their bio, I'm just here for the sex. If they have that, apparently women perceive them as being less competent and more prone to risky sexual behaviour. Right. Well, I mean, obviously that's why they're on there, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:16:32 That is why they're on there, but they're seen as less trustworthy and way less appealing to women. So, okay, so say you're a guy and you're on your dating app, but you're not that way inclined and you're wanting something serious, a shirtless like photo, that is bad idea. That's a no-no.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Even if you've got the goods, maybe a tight little t-shirt so we can sort of think, I think he's got the goods, but we don't need to see the goods right out the gate. So in this study, they got a bunch of people and they gave them some fake profiles,
Starting point is 00:17:06 fake Tinder profiles of both men and women. And in the men's ones, they were looking at different characteristics of masculinity, including like people who are showing off their muscles, but maybe not their full, you know, not nips out. They had a t-shirt on. Their sexualized appearance, as in like shirtless or wearing a shirt.
Starting point is 00:17:29 And relationship motivation, as in like, I'm here for a committed relationship or I'm here just for a fun time. Right. And then after viewing all of the profiles, the general gist of the outcome was that, yes, like if they were having, if they had either explicitly said in their profile,
Starting point is 00:17:46 DTF, or if they were having, if they had either explicitly said in their profile, DTF, or they were shirtless, given their best little pose, that the perception of the man was that they are not competent in both life and the bedroom. Right. I guess it's that like the perception of overcompensating for something perhaps. Yeah. What does it say about like people that have pictures of their cars or a big fish? Nothing on
Starting point is 00:18:10 the cars. They didn't study cars or big fish. Okay. I would say overall we've had Tinder long enough to know that that's like just that's not the goer. Right. But would you rather swipe on someone that's got a big fish or has a six pack? Or a car, a really sick car bra.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Oh, I reckon I'm going sick car bra. You're going to go lowered sick car. Yeah, I'm not all about the ab life because that just makes me think that we're not going to go out and like eat delicious pizza all the time. Yeah, that'll be limited. That's putting him off. Yeah. I like a little squishy.
Starting point is 00:18:44 I like a little squishy sitchy. Yummy, yummy, yummy. In my tummy. It's so rich and good. Oh, yummy, yummy. A segment of the show where we take a look at new food items and trends. This one, I don't think this will come to New Zealand, but it's in Australia. But it is something that you could easily make at home.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I do. I actually can imagine this coming to New Zealand because we have a version of both of these things that they've combined. So they're calling this the ultimate Australian mashup. Now, SPC, which is their watties, from what I can see, they can everything, fruit, tomatoes, and they do the baked beans. And this product. Good for an apocalypse.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Yes. Very good for an apocalypse. Yeah, just like watties or anything in a can. Yeah. Great. Do they, does stuff in a can go off? Like, are there dates on a can? No, isn't that the thing of canning?
Starting point is 00:19:42 It lasts forever? Until you're in your apocalypse and you open a can and it's mouldy. Would you eat it? Would you eat it? The zombies are on their way. Well, you have to. You have to eat it. There's no other food.
Starting point is 00:19:54 So the ultimate Australian mashup, baked beans with Vegemite. Yeah. Now, how do we feel about this? Well, sometimes when I have baked beans, I love baked beans. Yeah. I'm a Wadis gal. Yeah. Now, how do we feel about this? Well, sometimes when I have baked beans, I love baked beans. Yeah. I'm a Waddy's gal. Yeah. But when I have baked beans, sometimes I get my toast and I put butter on and then I put
Starting point is 00:20:14 marmite on. Yeah. And then I put baked beans on top with a bit of chaise. Because I've started putting the marmite on when I have like eggs on toast and it's revolutionized my breakfast at the weekend. Marmite on when I have like eggs on toast and it's revolutionised my breakfast at the weekend. Marmite goes under everything. Marmite under smashed avocado on toast. Marmite under eggs.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Marmite under baked beans kind of works. But I think this is like mixed through it, which makes me feel like it'll just be like salty beans. Like a bit, yeah. Because I'm imagining if you were to make this yourself, you'd put in some baked beans and then you'd get a teaspoon of Vegemite or Marmite and you'd stir it in and it would kind of go in with the juice, right?
Starting point is 00:20:49 And then it would be like a yeasty Marmite-y Vegemite juice. Tomato-y Vegemite-y. I think you could definitely try this at home. My hack that I do with my baked beans, which I think Waddy should sell, because we've got baked beans with sausages. Yeah. Wow. I mean, sausages, that's a loose
Starting point is 00:21:09 sausages in commas. Sawdust sacks. As I put in, and my friend taught me this, just the tiniest little bit of curry powder. So you put your baked beans in a little pot, and then you add in a little bit of curry powder, like your classic, just, you know, supermarket curry powder.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Yeah. They pop off. Wow, okay. That was some eggs and maybe a little chilli oil on top. And then some Marmite? Oh, yeah. Now you're talking. I don't know if I put Marmite under my curried beans.
Starting point is 00:21:37 It's a step too far. Live a little. Live a little. I reckon we can expect that Wadis will retaliate and do a Marmite baked beans. It's asking for it, isn't it? It really is. But then you've got the Marmite and then you've got the Vegemite people. They want their version.
Starting point is 00:21:52 I sleep around. You sleep around. Yeah, I sleep around. I think that's called bimite. You're a bimite. I'm a bimite sexual. Some days I feel like a little mom and sometimes I feel like a little veggie. And there's no judgment here.
Starting point is 00:22:06 You do whatever you like. There's no judgment and there's no preference. It's like love is love. Yeah. You know what I mean? Love is love. I'm reading more and more about this and it's really dark. So there was a guy called Casey White in the States who was a suspected murderer.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Okay. He'd had a number of charges like, you know, like robbery and gun charges and the likes, but he was a suspected murderer. Right. He was in a detention centre being detained before his... Court appearance. Court appearance. He sounds like a top-notch bloke.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Really like just like soul to the earth good man. Yeah. Yeah. And then, so that's Casey White. And then, what's her name? Shevicky White of no relation. Okay. So they're not related or married or anything.
Starting point is 00:22:58 But she worked at this detention centre. In fact, I think she was like the executive something or other. Like in management at the prison. She was in a higher role for sure. Vicky White. So apparently she helped him to escape from this jail, basically. She said that she was, you know, taking him to XYZ, da-da-da-da-da. They had become romantically involved.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Little did everyone know. Okay. And she had helped him get out. And then they were on the run for 11 days. I remember seeing this in the news. Yeah, yeah. It was massive. It was like the biggest hunt.
Starting point is 00:23:41 They called it the Casey White man hunt. And they were at the biggest hunt. They were on the run for ages until 11 days later, they caught them. Big like cop car chase, everything. So they've detained him and for reasons
Starting point is 00:23:55 she is no longer with us. Anyway. I did read that, but yes. Yeah. So anyway. Well, she ran a prison. She knew what she was in for. Let's put it that way. She was going to be in a lot of trouble. And apparently she had announced her retirement. She'd been working there for like years and years and years
Starting point is 00:24:10 and was like, I'm going to retire. Really? And when I retire, guys, I'm off to the beach. And everyone was like, that's so nice. You deserve it. You work so hard. Little did they know that she was having this affair and like broke out a suspected murderer.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Anyway, so apparently for the majority of their time, they stayed at an Indiana motel where they were bunking down and hiding from the police. Those ones that you see on American movies or TV shows where they, it must cost like $30 a night. There's a big neon sign. It's called Motel 41. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:43 There's like, there's not fancy at all. It's straight out of a crime film. You can imagine the hideous duvet in my head. The duvet is multicoloured. Multicoloured. It's a quilt. It's a quilt. It's a quilt.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Which means you know they don't wash it. They can't take the cover off it. Yeah. Yeah, if you put a blue light in there, oh, the things you would see. Oh, totally. So apparently that motel and the room they stayed in has received an unprecedented, we all know that word now,
Starting point is 00:25:14 amount of calls and interest, and there is now a wait list to stay in that room. Isn't that... From people who are just like fascinated by this case. Isn't that morbid? Really morbid knowing that in there, like especially the outcome, like she's dead, he's in prison, he's murdered someone. It's so weird.
Starting point is 00:25:34 And I guess it's like this sort of, I don't know, dark kind of curiosity that's made everyone want to stay in this room. They've got a wait list to even stay in there. And they've upped the price of the room. It was usually like the going rate for the room was $75. They've doubled it because they're like, we can make some money out of this. Wow, okay.
Starting point is 00:26:00 But this reminds me of like, do you remember Dark Tourist? Yes. The David Farrier, the Netflix show that he did, yes. Yeah, and it was like people who travel to places for specific kind of morbid reasons, like whether or not, yeah, like a murderer stayed there or like this is the hotel room that Aileen Wernos was in or something like just like really weird reasons
Starting point is 00:26:32 that people stay at places. See, I don't think I'd want to stay in a hotel room where fugitives were or someone was murdered or died. Like, do you think people would try to stay in the room Whitney Houston died in at the Beverly Hilton? Absolutely. But do you think they would just say stay in the room Whitney Houston died in at the Beverly Hilton? Absolutely. But do you think they would just say, we're not telling you, right?
Starting point is 00:26:50 Maybe they won't advertise what room it was. But I bet you could Google and find out. Or it's like the hotel from The Shining, the, like, ski resort place. Oh, see, I would stay there because that's a beautiful hotel. It's beautiful, but you're going to tell me you're going to walk down the hallways and not think that some kid is going to be biking behind you in a little trike? See, I would say I haven't done this, but I've been to Chernobyl in Ukraine,
Starting point is 00:27:16 which is dark tourism, right? Like that is a place with high levels of radiation. Yeah. But it was like the most fascinating place I've ever been in my life. I mean, I know that's why people travel to like old detention camps and stuff because I guess there's just this sort of morbid curiosity to be around strange things.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I haven't travelled specifically for something kind of left field, I guess. But like, I have, I've been to Thailand a number of times, but every time I go, I always say, like whoever I'm with, oh, we've got to go to the hospital because there's a hospital museum in Thailand. And I know that people who have been there
Starting point is 00:27:57 will be listening now going like, yeah, I've been there and I know what it is. What kind of, what do you mean? Like just old hospital beds? Yeah, it's like attached, no. It's attached to the hospital and it's a little museum bit and you go in
Starting point is 00:28:08 and it's all like mummified bodies of murderers and like, What? I don't know, like, And you've been
Starting point is 00:28:17 multiple times. I've been three times. Oh, that is morbid. It's so dark and when you go in and there's like all these, I won't get into it.
Starting point is 00:28:24 I mean, you do collect taxidermied things, so. Yeah, I've got a bit of a dark side. Maybe you've got a dark side. But we wanted to ask this morning, is there a place that you've gone on holiday that's a little bit left field because, I don't know, it was on a TV show or something infamous happened? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Yeah. Like when my dad went to Memphis, I guess. Oh, because of like Elvis. Yeah, because of Elvis. And I think that you like see the toilet that he died on. You're like, that's a bit, that's a bit sad. Yeah, that's a bit morbid, right? But then millions of people would have seen that toilet by now.
Starting point is 00:29:01 I know. But we want to know, yeah, the left field holiday destinations you've been to and why you've been there. Alright, 0800 DARS at M. If you've been somewhere a little bit left field on holiday and why, a motel where fugitives stayed after breaking out of prison
Starting point is 00:29:17 has doubled its rate, its nightly rate, and now has a wait list because people want to stay in the same crappy motel room as these terrible people they're not even like there's nothing redeeming about these people they're not like they weren't robbing banks and then giving the money to the poor no no it's not a robin hood he's a suspected murderer um and the thing is with this it's kind of confusing as well as like they're not even infamous yet. This is a fresh case.
Starting point is 00:29:46 They've only just sort of caught the guy, and people are already, yeah, there's a wait list. So we want to know if you've ever gone on holiday, you've been somewhere, and you've gone somewhere infamous, a bit left field. Maybe it was a bit grim. Sheila, whereabouts did you go? I haven't been yet, but I'm planning to next year.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I'm going back to the UK to visit family, and I'm going to do a Jack the Ripper walking tour of Whitechapel. Oh, okay. I would probably find that quite interesting, actually. Yes, very notorious. I only found out about it, a friend of mine, I found out a few years ago, something like her great-great-great-grandmother
Starting point is 00:30:27 was one of the victims, Catherine Eddowes. And then she said she'd done the tour, but ever since then, we've always had the kids with us. So kids are all grown up now, and we're all going to go on the tour. Oh, wow. Do you have a main suspect? Are you a big Jack the Ripper fan?
Starting point is 00:30:41 Do you think you know who it is? Yeah, I've got two series. One was a book by Patricia Cornwell, and it was a German artist called Walter Sickert. Okay. You can Google that. And the other one, they say, might have been a mortuary attendant
Starting point is 00:30:55 who attended about four of the mortuary at the post-war time. I like the one where it's one of the royal family. Yeah. Yeah, I think that was his son's row, wasn't it? Probably Prince Andrew in a former life, I expect. May have been, Sheila. Thanks for your call.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Will, whereabouts have you been on holiday that's a little bit left field? We went to Dead Valley in the United States. My grandparents had been there way back in the 80s and said how dangerous it was and freaky, so I thought that's a bit of us. So is this between on the road between LA and Vegas? It's sort of a detour out
Starting point is 00:31:32 of the way. If you go, we drove back to LA from Vegas and it took about 10 hours. Right. And it can get too ridiculously hot, right? That's the idea of it. Yeah, so we were there and it was 54 degrees. The record was like 56, but it is the weirdest feeling.
Starting point is 00:31:51 And so what kind of stuff is that area known for? Death. Death. The heat. Like driving there like Will did and the car doesn't start and you literally bake to death. Yeah, literally. No, yeah. I like don't stop on the side of the road.
Starting point is 00:32:05 But we're like, nah, we'll get out for a little run up the road. So what happens when you stop on the side of the road at Death Valley, you open the door, you're just like, how long can you actually stay out in 54 degrees? Well, we were only out there for about two minutes and you could literally feel like the water evaporating out of your eyes and off your skin. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Oh, my God. Okay, yeah, don't stop. You shouldn't be stopping. Yeah, no. It's so cool, though. It's like going to the moon. It's like a freaky landscape. Wow.
Starting point is 00:32:32 See, I would probably do that. Yeah, you've actually hooked me a little bit. Yeah, but then I'd be that one person, the car doesn't start, and then I die. And I see this is why. They have rangers everywhere to, like, stop and help people. Like, I'm pretty used to dumb tourists dying. Okay, so they're prepared for us. and Lacey, this is why. They have rangers everywhere to like stop and help people. Like they're pretty used to dumb tourists dying.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Okay, so they're prepared for us. All right, well, thanks you, Cole. Shannon, where was the left field place you visited on holiday? Well, my partner is obsessed with World War II. So when we went to Europe, we hit everything. We went to Hitler's bunker, Hitler's holiday home, two concentration camps, Schindler's factory and yeah, that was pretty much it.
Starting point is 00:33:12 It was pretty incredible. It's kind of a strange feeling like I've been to Anzac Cove and when you're there, I mean like obviously you get photos and stuff but you're like, what am I taking photos of? Do you smile? Like hey, I'm here in Hitler's house. Yeah, the concentration camps were the worst, I think.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Auschwitz and Poland had the weirdest, airy feeling. Yeah. Yeah, they do. Wow, what an experience to go somewhere like that. Thanks, you called some messages in. Someone said they've been to Robben Island in South Africa, which is the prison where Nelson Mandela was held for 20 plus years. Very surreal walking past his prison cell.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Yeah. They said they felt ashamed to be white. Good feeling to have sometimes. My husband and I went into the catacombs in Paris. I know lots of people have done the catacombs in Paris. What's that? It's all made out of like human skeletons.
Starting point is 00:34:10 No, thank you. Super weird. Went to the Westwood Cemetery in Hollywood where Marilyn Monroe and a bunch of other celebrities are buried. See, I don't get the visiting a cemetery to see a dead celebrity. See, I've been to Jim Morrison's grave in Paris
Starting point is 00:34:25 and also I believe Chopin, Frédéric Chopin is buried there. And when I went there, we were like, let's go see Jim Morrison's grave. And we were like, where is it? And then you get this like, waft of marijuana. And I was like, I reckon it's over there. And then we went there
Starting point is 00:34:41 and there was a dude like drinking a beer and having a cry. Good for him. Yeah, a lot of people go into the things like the tombs and the crypts and stuff all made out of 4,000 skeletons of human bodies. Remember the film Into the Wild? Yes. And it had the bus and the guy who like ate something weird. Great film. Yeah, a guy, someone went there to the bus.
Starting point is 00:35:06 By the way, they've helicoptered the bus away now. So you can't do that anymore. Oh, you can't do that anymore? There's this incredible video of them helicoptering the bus away because tourists were getting stuck and dying as well, like he did. And someone messaged him just saying, I've been to North Korea. So I guess that's just... Oh, that would be incredible.
Starting point is 00:35:24 I'd love that. I would be too scared. What if I did something arrestable? Yeah, because you'd be very arrestable in North Korea. Yeah. A lot of dark stuff that maybe is not appropriate for 7.24 on a Wednesday morning. Right. A lot of like dark places that people go,
Starting point is 00:35:41 but it's just a morbid thing to kind of go somewhere, I guess, and sort of picture it in your mind. People do. All right, next on the show, she's announced a couple more dates for her New Zealand show. Ursula Carlson joins us next if she wakes up because it's very early in Australia.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Play. ZM's Fletchvorn and Hayley. I believe we may have Ursula with us now live on air. Morning, Ursh. Hi, how's it going? Yes. Yay, we got you. How are you, mate?
Starting point is 00:36:12 Here we are. Yeah, I'm good, thanks. How are you? Where are you and what time is it? I'm in Melbourne at the Langham, room 23. Oh, no, we don't need to know all of that. Ursh, protect your safety. That sounds great.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Because I'll leave keys downstairs for you. And it's 5.30. 5.30. It sounds very flash. Is it so flash that they don't push two single beds together and call it a king? And you feel the crack? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:40 And when you turn around, you're like, oh, my God, I'm in deep. I'm in deep. And then, no, you're not having a fever dream. Although it is pretty dated. I'll give you a quick tour just like that. Look at that. Wow. You could do with a bit of a freshen up.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Yeah, it looks like you're at your nana's house and it could be haunted. You know, but, you know, I like the 80s. Yeah. I'm into it. You suit it well. Hey, Ursh, so you've been over in Australia for quite a while now, touring around your show to sell out audiences all around the continent of Australia.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Yes. The biggest show, 7,000 people, is that right? Yeah, at the, as you see, at the big theatre in Sydney. That's amazing. And now you're going to be touring around New Zealand. We're lucky to have you. Well, I mean, I've got to do New Zealand because otherwise I can't go to the supermarket.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Because everyone's like, well, thanks. Very nice of you to tour New Zealand. But no, I mean, you know, I've postponed this tour two times now. And so I'm just fizzing at the bunghole to get to it. Are we allowed to say bunghole? Yeah. You can say bunghole. Yeah, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:37:49 You won't believe the things I get away with saying, Ursula, on TV. I'm on the radio. It's outrageous. No, no, I've heard. I've heard my mum reports back. Like, I listened to Hayley this morning, and she sang a little song. Oh. And it wasn't all, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:03 A little song. Mum's a big fan. Oh, I love that. I, yeah. A little song. Yeah, mum's a big fan. Oh, I love that. I'm a big fan of her. Now, it's personal. I remember a couple of years ago maybe, you started talking about the concept of the show and what you wanted it to be.
Starting point is 00:38:17 You're kind of an anomaly a lot of the time, very private woman, and it's personal kind of is a bit more intimate, would you say? Yeah, yeah, it is. I, you know, because now we live in a time where it's TikTok and it's, you know, where people overshare absolutely everything online. And, you know, I don't put anything online. But then I think, you know, we've all had had a two and a half years, you know, the last two and a half years, we've all lived it. We've all eaten our way through it, except those people who've lost weight through it,
Starting point is 00:38:48 which, quite frankly, there's not enough beeping that could go on in the show. You need to describe to you. Those people who go, I have never been fitter through the back end of this. I'm like, you know what? I want to come over to your house and fight you in your front yard.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Just hand-to-hand combat. I'll punch you with a banana. Not that I have a frozen one in the freezer. Does your mum do that? Does she freeze them? Anyway. That's sort of side chat
Starting point is 00:39:17 we can do later. So then I thought, you know what? It's time. I've been touring. This is my 10th year of touring, and I sort of always just skirt around stories and never really talk about myself. But then I thought, no, this year's the year. I'm going to open up a bit to the audiences,
Starting point is 00:39:36 and I have been, and people are loving it. They are. It's insane. You've got like, you're like next level. You're super famous over in Australia. You've got like, you're like next level. You're super famous over in Australia. You've got mega fans. What's the feedback been? Like after the show, do people come up to you and they're like,
Starting point is 00:39:52 oh my God, Ursula, I love you. No, because it's COVID. So I've been having the most boring tour where I would do the show and then immediately come back to the hotel. So I've really, for the the last six years I've been touring with the same guy, Tom, and he's the 6'4 giant that goes everywhere with me and it's just me and him on the road. And, you know, so we just go back to the hotel, drink a bottle of gin
Starting point is 00:40:20 and watch trashy TV. So my biggest challenge, I think, on this tour hasn't been staying away from people. It's keeping Tom off Grindr. Especially Melbourne. Tell you what, it's good for that. I've had to say to you, you cannot pursue rogue dick on this tour
Starting point is 00:40:39 because... Are we allowed to say rogue dick? You said it twice. Yeah, it's fine. I'm not say rogue dick? You said it twice. It's fine. I'm not saying rogue dick again. Okay. Why not? Are you filming any of these for a new,
Starting point is 00:40:54 do you have a new Netflix show that you'll be doing? Because the last one was great. Oh, thank you. I have filmed a couple of them. I filmed a big one in Sydney. Yeah. you um i have filmed a couple of them i filmed that big one in sydney yeah um and you know um let's just say it's going to be um cute whenever people come over to visit now because i can't do like old school whip out the album and go have a look at my trip now i can go let's have a sit down and look at this rough cut of my show. Yeah. And then I've got some backstage footage, but it's
Starting point is 00:41:25 mainly if Tom passed out. After the grinder. Yeah, no, no. The grinder sorrow, because he can't go and grind it. With this tour, because you've gone so huge with it, like for example that show, and I'm sure lots of the shows
Starting point is 00:41:41 you did in Australia, Ursula's gone to the level where when you do stand-up, there is a screen projected behind you so that people in the nosebleeds can see you. But in New Zealand, some of your venues, you're going a little bit smaller, like Bruce Mason in Auckland, it's
Starting point is 00:41:58 not our biggest theatre. Some more intimate venues around the country. I have added another one, so if I add them up, then it's sort of a bigger one. So I could have a little screen. I'll have my laptop on stage. Yeah, yeah, just a little like that. Which one do you prefer though?
Starting point is 00:42:15 Like the massive kind of like arena feel or the more intimate venues? I mean, they're both at their benefits. Like I, there's nothing I love more than a grungy pub gig. You know, I love when you walk out and, you know, you sort of stick to the floor and it sort of weirdly smells like urine and the entire audience knows itself. Hey, shout out to Taranaki. You know, you just kind of, I love the small audiences,
Starting point is 00:42:41 but then those big ones, when you walk out and it just kind of, that audience sort of punches you in the face when they're screaming. I'm not, you know, I've played in Brisbane, I played the arena and I actually, it tears my eyes walking up to the microphone because it's sort of overwhelming. But yeah, I don't really have a preference
Starting point is 00:42:58 because, you know, it's like your kids, you don't have a favourite. I mean, everyone's got a favourite. Everyone knows who they have a favourite. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to you don't have a favourite. I mean, everyone's got a favourite. Everyone has a favourite. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, the one who doesn't smear peanut butter on the couch. When you're still pulling the plastic off it and you haven't had any Scotchgard on it. Yeah, you love your plastic-covered furniture.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Well, I'm excited to see it. You're absolutely incredible. We're lucky to have you back in the country. I think you go to livenation.co.nz for tickets? Live Nation, the new dates are in Auckland at Bruce Mason and the new show in Tauranga at the Addison Theatre and you're touring all over the country as we
Starting point is 00:43:33 mentioned at the start. livenation.co.nz for all those details. Please don't get tickets or voyagogo. Oh no. I can't believe you're charging me $400 a ticket. Girl, if I charged $400 a ticket, I wouldn't be living in Henderson and fighting with my neighbour about throwing
Starting point is 00:43:50 stuff in the alleyway. Ursula, thank you so much. Thanks guys. So this is, I feel like it's time that we stop this. It's 2022. We need to just be honest because apparently women in heterosexual relationships with men
Starting point is 00:44:11 are still withholding honest sexual communication. And the reason they're doing it is to protect their partner's perceived masculinity. You're fragile. Male egos. Male egos. Yep. Male egos. Just keep lying to us.
Starting point is 00:44:28 So it's like things about like communicating, you know, what you like in the bedroom, that kind of stuff. Still faking it all the time, apparently, according to this study in the Social, Psychological and Personality Science Journal. Right. So you know it's legit.
Starting point is 00:44:44 We are still just, we're holding back from our communication because we don't want to offend the men. I would say communication is a strength in my relationship. You just say it. Yeah, shall I get Aaron in and we'll tell him some things? Well, you're broadcasting from home. I am broadcasting from home. Aaron!
Starting point is 00:45:06 Is he asleep right now? No, he's not asleep. He's wide awake. Right, okay. So we took to social media to ask our listeners if they would have, what is the thing that they would critique about their partner and what it would be?
Starting point is 00:45:25 Anonymously. Anonymously. Anonymously. Is it anonymous? I was about to read names. Okay. Oh, no, the names have been scribbled out. Yeah, do it anonymously. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Here, anonymous says, and these are from females about the ladies, relies on his parents too much. Okay. Still leaning on mummy and daddy. How are you going to have that conversation with your boyfriend without it being a big argument and then hurting his feelings forever? I know.
Starting point is 00:45:49 I mean, I think if this is a man who is still relying on his mum and dad too much, then that's a bigger conversation than just get off the phone to your mum. Here's a critique that they haven't been honest about with their partner, his teeth. His teeth, there's a dead one right in't been honest about with their partner. His teeth. Oh. His teeth.
Starting point is 00:46:06 There's a dead one right in front. Oh, right. Okay. It ruins his smile and he refuses to floss. But I don't think flossing is going to fix a dead tooth. I think you've got to get a new tooth. No, that's an implant situation. I'd start saving for that one.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Another anonymous message. I wish he was more romantic. I guess things like dinners and flowers and rubs and sweet nothings. Yep. Some hug vouchers. Get some hug vouchers. Yeah, hug vouchers are always good. Get some hug vouchers. Oh dear, his bad breath
Starting point is 00:46:37 is another anonymous message. Buy some mouthwash. Listerine. Wear a brown Listerine. That really burns the bloody back of the throat. Yuck. I'm a plexer. It's a little more gentle. It's more gentle. No brown Listerine all the way. Brown is just the worst colour
Starting point is 00:46:54 for a mouthwash. That's what it should come out as. It's so strong. It's so strong. His disgusting flatulence. That's an anonymous message. He's missed out on a lot of indoor gardening due to this. Very good. Wow.
Starting point is 00:47:09 How he's a dirty little creature sometimes. Oh, no. I can't read that message. Clean your things, bro. His man bits. Yeah, his under man bits. Oh, wow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Have a shower? Is he showering? There's some smelly boys in here. He needs to use deodorant, but he just won't. Another message, he's too much of a people pleaser and needs more boundaries. People are really loving the chance to just sound off. He's very wasteful about everything, including money.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Does my head in. Never asks how my day was. That's no good. That's maybe, we need to communicate these things to our men. Well, yeah, ladies, just say maybe, hey, listen to the Fletch Vaughan and Hayley podcast today at this time marker. Yeah, there was a good bit.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Really subtle. Really subtle. We're joined in studio. The mic is now working. Ben Barrington, good morning. Good morning, guys. There we go. Gorgeous, gorgeous voice for radio. We were saying, Ben, we might just get you to sub in for Vaughan,
Starting point is 00:48:11 as you guys often get sort of confused for each other sometimes. Well, we get subbed in visually. Yes. Yeah, that's where it ends. And there was a time, we did a little gag a few years ago now, where I came in here to this very building one day and put Vaughan's outfit, his uniform with the raglan shirt and and the beanie you were his stunt double and walked around sort of talking to people were talking to me as if I as if I was Vaughan and
Starting point is 00:48:35 you guys filmed it and it was yeah but and then and just now we were saying Vaughan should come into Shortland Street we should do it a little bit where yeah where I go oh excuse me drop my stethoscope and duck down and Vaughan pops up and starts treating the patient to see if they notice. We've probably got about the same medical
Starting point is 00:48:53 knowledge and ability. We were just saying we were hoping that you'd be able to check Fletcher's heart rate, which is typically ridiculously low. It gets low while I sleep.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Yeah, when I wake up, my watch is always like, did you die last night? Well, this early in the morning, it's typically ridiculously low. It gets low while I sleep. When I wake up, my watch is always like, did you die last night? Well, this early in the morning, it's to be expected. A low heart rate is to be expected. What is that? Stethoscope. I've got a special Shortland Street. Is this an official stethoscope? Are they real?
Starting point is 00:49:18 That is an official Shortland Street stethoscope endorsed by the $2 shop.... The $2 shop. By the $2 shop. And some drama school trained actors. Right. Do people actually hit you up in real life for medical advice
Starting point is 00:49:38 thinking you're actually a doctor? Has that happened? Yeah, that's kind of like a little joke that people do, but we do get asked from time to time by people if we are medically trained. Are you actually a doctor? I have people say to me, are you actually? Right.
Starting point is 00:49:54 So are you actually a doctor? Because I suppose you learn some of the language right, but when you're saying it, you probably don't know what it actually means. Is it that obvious? We've got to get the skinging tagging cord into the urethra. Well, it's funny what you pick up. It's funny what you pick up.
Starting point is 00:50:13 And sometimes my mother, for instance, her social group are getting on a little bit. And she'll often say to me, oh, you know, poor old so-and-so's had to go into hospital. Turns out she's got a, you know, what's called a da-da-da-da-da. And I'm like, yeah, I know what that is. I actually know what that is. Yeah, I know what that is. Wow. An abnormality in your kidney that causes a da-da-da-da.
Starting point is 00:50:34 I'm like, yeah, I remember that from a few months ago. So Shoreland Street, 30 years of Shoreland Street. It's a Kiwi institution. How long have you been on now? Well, I've been on seven years this month. Wow, okay. Which is really weird for me because I think that's almost a quarter. That's a quarter?
Starting point is 00:50:48 Yeah, that's intense. Of that time. You've been part of so many iconic moments. I mean, Poonami, obviously. Oh, of course. I'd forgotten that. Do you have a storyline from your seven-year tenure? Not that it's over.
Starting point is 00:51:06 I'm not giving away any spoilers. What have you heard? I don't know. I don't know. But do you have a storyline or like a moment from the show that really like pops out to you as one of your favourites? I think maybe the Poonami one because I get reminded of that one. All the time.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Even though at the time we didn't really think it was going to kind of catch on and be a big deal. You didn't think that Poonami was going to catch on? No, because the pace of the show is so quickly and we've got a lot of comedy stuff in the show at the moment, a lot of comical characters. So we have a lot of these scenes where someone eats a peanut and their eye swells up or they slip on a banana peel or this or that. And so really at the time, we were just like,
Starting point is 00:51:55 oh, this is funny. The pipes in this house, we bought a dodgy and there's an overflow of... And it was just like, oh, this line, you know. And we literally did it a couple of times and then just, right, pack up, move onto the next. I had to get into a suit and go into the hospital to do another scene.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Do another one. And it just really didn't give it another thought. Yeah, right. And then once it was on Jono and Ben, I was like, actually, that's... You've made it now. That is quite wacky. I can see why people enjoyed that.
Starting point is 00:52:19 The ad that's been screening thanking the sponsors and kind of celebrating the 30 years is so well done. So amazing. Yeah. It's done. It's so amazing. It's incredible. It's just a walkthrough of Shortland Street. There's some blasts from the past. Was that fun to film? Yeah, it was a lot of fun to film in there.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Like you said, there's a few old infamous faces pop up in that ad. Who would have, I did not foresee Rangi in the lift. Rangi's dead. I think Rangi, seeing that ad, I think he's just been preserved. Yeah, has he not aged? Something about the air in that lift. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:52:53 I also thought the same. I was like, Rangi is looking good. Rangi is looking really good, right? Like he's, that uniform, you know, the pressing on that uniform. Yeah. I just thought, right, he's just sat in there and they've just done something to the air pressure
Starting point is 00:53:08 and just kept him exactly like he was 25 years ago. Him and the Frisco's lady. Just don't age. I know, Tammy. The lovely Tammy. The most delightful person I've ever had the pleasure of meeting. And she was so thrilled to be there, so thrilled to be a part of it
Starting point is 00:53:23 and standing there on the set with us. I just watch the show all the time. I'm such a big fan. Ben, you've been doing lots of things to celebrate the 30th anniversary, these special videos with some old cast and lots of interviews and stuff. You were on Breakfast and Seven Sharp and the likes. Is there a special sort of cliffhanger in the works for the week or a special episode or anything like
Starting point is 00:53:48 that? Well, I really, tonight's episode is going to be a banger and I just quickly want to mention as well that Sky City have been really really kind enough to light up the Sky Tower tonight. Really?
Starting point is 00:54:04 In Shoreland Street colours? Auckland Sky Tower will be lit in blue and orange to commemorate 30 years. Yeah, so if you can tear yourself away from the screen, Aucklanders, maybe while the ads are on, look out your window and you'll, yeah. But tonight there's a few old faces as well and some special guests
Starting point is 00:54:25 and one particular very famous character from the past that we get asked about all the time. What's happened to this person? Will they be coming back? And all I will say is when you see this person, you might choke on your muffin. Oh, my God. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Okay. Now I'm trying to think about who it would be. Now I'm trying to think That's a big deal. I know who that is. That's a big deal. Okay well Do you know who it is? You can watch it tonight on Shoreland Street.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Ben Barrington thank you so much for coming in this morning. My pleasure. Thanks for having me guys. Play ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. Play ZM.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Well I want to see this man's video on that is that Scottish? Yeah I don't know. I'm not very good at that. There is a man from Scotland. Oh, that's all right.
Starting point is 00:55:09 That's sweet. Yeah. I'll fall out of that quite quickly. There's a man from Scotland, and I will say a very handsome man. His name is Patrick Campbell. Okay. And he shared his experience on TikTok
Starting point is 00:55:21 after he was looking for love. He went on Tinder and found a gal and they really hit it off. Now, I don't know how this has happened in terms of like how far. Don't you put like a
Starting point is 00:55:38 distance thing, like how far from you? Yeah, you can put a distance thing or you can go all over the world. Yeah. Yeah. So they were talking they were talking, no it's gone. They were talking and they hit it off so he thought, I'm going to come and meet you
Starting point is 00:55:53 whereabouts are you based? And she was like, Chicago. I'm in Chicago. Oh wow. So he was like, you know what? This could be something. So he flew 8, you know what? This could be something. So he flew 8,000 kilometres from Edinburgh to Chicago with stopovers along the way to have this date with this girl. Wait, so not even like, he wasn't,
Starting point is 00:56:17 they didn't have some kind of four month, like get to know each other, semi-online relationship and then move in, move in with each other. It was just a date. Just a date. So there's a little, I mean, they were talking and stuff
Starting point is 00:56:31 and like really hitting it off. Like they were chatting and I think that he just went, I really think this could be more. So he just jumped on a fly. There's a really sweet video shared on her page. Her name is Bridget
Starting point is 00:56:45 on TikTok, of her waiting to pick him up. They see each other at the airport. They have a huge hug. They go out. They're walking through the streets of Chicago, holding hands, fancy dinners. And then does he go home? I think he's gone home, but I think that they
Starting point is 00:57:01 have plans to meet each other again. Right. That's a long way to go for a date. I know. That's a long way. A really long way to go for a date. But the thing is, it's worked.
Starting point is 00:57:12 They're saying like, this felt right. And so we did it. And we're so glad we did. I think they've found love. I think they've found love. In a hopeless place. In a hopeless place. The hopeless place being the huge distance between Edinburgh and Chicago.
Starting point is 00:57:27 But this got us thinking, you know, we want to hear the beautiful love stories of how far you went for a date. Like maybe you were in Hamilton and you went all the way to Auckland for a date. From Hamilton to South Auckland. You got in your Corolla and you hit State Highway 1 and you went on a date. Like that's still a big ask, right? To go to another city. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Like for a date, basically. I do have a friend who met someone online and then finally flew over to Barcelona to meet them. What? So they went from New Zealand to Spain? Yes, but in fairness, they'd been chatting for probably like a year. Oh, okay. This was like many, many years ago where like that kind of online dating was really hot. Yep. And so, I mean, that was epic. And that, I mean, they ended up together for a while, not together anymore. But yeah, how far have you gone for a date? How far did you
Starting point is 00:58:22 travel? What did you, what did you give up? What did you sacrifice? Did you have you gone for a date? How far did you travel? What did you give up? What did you sacrifice? Did you have to get on a plane in New Zealand to go on a date? Or did you have to put in a long roadie? I mean, I don't know if we're going to beat Chicago or, you know, Europe or whatever. But, I mean, maybe we'll start small here in New Zealand. We'll start small.
Starting point is 00:58:41 The number to beat is 8,000 kilometres. So we'll see if we can beat it. We are down the bottom of the world. So, I mean, as long as someone's... Anywhere is far. Anywhere is far. But yeah, maybe just in New Zealand, you had to go into Ireland.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Yes. Maybe there was a ferry trip. I don't know. Maybe you had to spew on a ferry. Maybe you went down to Stewart Island. Also, like, what if you went on this date and it was just average? I want to hear the good and the bad.
Starting point is 00:59:10 We've asked how far you have travelled for a date. A guy in Edinburgh found love on Tinder and flew all the way to Chicago in the United States for this date. It went very well. But we want to hear if you've done something similar, how far you've gone, whether it went well
Starting point is 00:59:25 or whether it was a bit of a fizzler once you got there. Whether it was, you know, the length of New Zealand or just between, I don't know. Maybe you went from, you know, West Auckland out to East Auckland. East Auckland is miles away. That is scary when the Sky Tower is so tiny. And then you get lost. You're in East Auckland, you're like, where's the Sky Tower?
Starting point is 00:59:46 Where am I? So how far have you gone for a date? Melissa, this is your brother. How far did he go? So he went from New Zealand to the Philippines. Oh, wow. Okay. That's a long way. How did that go for him? Yeah, pretty good. So they have been married for
Starting point is 01:00:02 like nine and a half years. They have four children. Ah, so it worked out all good. So they have been married for like nine and a half years. They have four children. Ah, so it worked out all good. Yeah. Oh, that's a nice ending. Did they have to move here or does he stay there now? So they moved here and then now they actually live in Australia. So they've been there for like a little bit in between the two, but they've been living there maybe for about five years.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Oh, wow. Okay, so it all worked out. It was worth going all the way to the Philippines for a date. Shelley, how far did you go for a date? It's actually my now husband. So we, yeah, we both met on holiday in Port Douglas. Okay. I was there with my entire family for my uncle's 70th birthday.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Yeah. As you do. And then we met in the pool and we hung out for a couple days there I had to fly home and the day I flew home he booked flights to come and visit me in Wellington from Sydney
Starting point is 01:00:56 where he was from we hung out for another weekend and then that was it, he decided to move further Oh wow, so just like that and now he's your husband. Yeah, we've been married for six years, together for eight, and we've got two kids.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Wow. Happy story. Happy story. It is. Shelly, thanks for your call. Amber, I'm just choking up here with all this love. Amber, how far did you go for a date? So I actually got on a plane to Blenheim from Auckland.
Starting point is 01:01:32 From Auckland. Okay. That small plane, had you been to Blenheim before? No, I hadn't. It's a very small plane, very small airport, lovely, lovely town. Yes, yes, it's actually a beautiful town. Yeah. Do they not have traffic?
Starting point is 01:01:49 They only just got traffic lights, didn't they, recently? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, yeah. A lot of roundabouts pre that. And how did the date go, Amber? It went really well. We actually ended up into a relationship, but the reason I actually called
Starting point is 01:02:05 was because I laughed at the fact that you said driving from Hamilton to Auckland in your Toyota Corolla. Me and that person obviously broke up and I'm currently driving back to Auckland from Hamilton in my Corolla from seeing my partner. Wow. See, what you're saying there is I hit the nail on the head there with that summary. Excellent. Brilliant. Wow. See, what you're saying there is I hit the nail on the head there
Starting point is 01:02:25 with that summary. Excellent. Brilliant, Amber. That's brilliant. Thanks for your call. Some messages in from people. We have hundreds of messages in. This is incredible.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Beautiful stories of love. Someone said, I flew from Palmerston North to London. I mean, I don't think they do direct flights from Parmy. I think you've got a couple of stopovers. A couple of stopovers. For a second date, we spent 10 days tripping around London and two days in Paris. Best trip ever. They just said whether or not they're still together.
Starting point is 01:02:56 A lot of people going from New Zealand to Australia for first dates. This person ended up staying for two weeks and then ended up moving over. Was together for two years but not now. Which is pretty cute. My partner and I are a
Starting point is 01:03:12 Tinderella success. I moved from Dunedin to Hamilton after eight months of back and forth. I'm looking for some real good ones. Ottawa to Clevedon. Those are two suburbs in Auckland. Huge for a lunch first date. They've been together for five years.
Starting point is 01:03:28 But you know what? Now though, with petrol prices the way they are, that's still an expensive first date. Oh, I would only date strictly in northwest Auckland if I was still single. Auckland to Hamilton. Oh, here we go. Not a date, but after
Starting point is 01:03:44 six months of meeting my partner online, I, without ever meeting them in person, moved from Ireland to New Zealand. I'm still here four years later and we're still together. Wow, that's amazing. My high school boyfriend secretly drove from Wellington to Kaikoura to go on a date with my best friend. Obviously, we broke up.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Yeah. Yes. Now this is a huge one here, not quite beating the 8,000 kilometres. I live in Napier. I went all the way to Hastings for a first date. Yeah, that's a big drive, isn't it? We've got 1,000 kilometres.
Starting point is 01:04:17 My hubby and my first date was going to a wedding. He travelled 1,000 kilometres to meet me there and I was his date. Auckland to Sydney, New kilometres to meet me there. And I was his date. Auckland to Sydney, New York to New Zealand. People are prepared to do anything. I mean, how hot are these Tinder photos? So someone said here, and they haven't given the details, I travelled 10,779 kilometres
Starting point is 01:04:38 for my first date with my now husband. Lots of... There are so many happy stories. So many happy outcomes. Hawaii to Auckland, Tauranga to Invercargill. Guys, just, I think if you're on Tinder, broaden the circle of how far they can
Starting point is 01:04:56 be from you. Because a lot of people finding love. Although this was pre-pandemic, airfares are a lot more expensive now. Yeah, I'm trying to California. So many happy stories. Everyone's getting married, Beautiful. Although this was pre-pandemic. Airfares are a lot more expensive now. Yeah. I don't want to. California. So many happy stories.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Everyone's getting married. Everyone's getting married, Aaron. He's asleep. As Hayley broadcasts from home while her fiance sleeps. Everyone's getting married but us. No response. No response. Play.
Starting point is 01:05:23 ZM's Fletchvorn and Hayley. No response. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Well, today's fact of the day, and I'm in charge today. I'm not going to let the power go to my head. No, good luck out there, though. I support you. With Vaughan transiting to Star Wars land, world, Nerdville, Disneyland. I'm in charge today of fact of the day, and today's fact of the day, it does involve airline travel. A broken $3,500 guitar cost United Airlines $180 million.
Starting point is 01:06:11 What? That is today's fact of the day. Now, this goes back to 2008 when a man called Dave, a Canadian musician, was traveling on United Airlines. And it was apparently at a stopover at Chicago's O'Hare Airport where baggage handlers chucked his guitar. Because, you know, I think now they have the big containers inside. They load them into big containers and then they put the containers in. Yeah, so they don't individually hiff them in. Whereas back then, I think they'd have the big ramp,
Starting point is 01:06:43 which was like an escalator, into the cargo hold and they'd just chuck the bag. So you can still see that sometimes. And apparently they chucked it and so when he got to his destination, he's like, United Airlines, you've broken my three and a half thousand dollar guitar. And he's a musician. Yeah, so he's useless without it.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Yeah, they were just like, we don't want a bar of this. Because a lot of our airlines, like I know in New Zealand, they put a thing on your ticket, right? We're not liable. And you sign for it when you check in. Yeah, when you go to the oversized baggage bit. So it's on you.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they're also too big to carry on. Because they'll never fit in that machine that you have to put your bag into. You'd never fit in that. No, you can't slip it into a tray. So I guess you're screwed. You've got to have a put your bag into. You'd never fit in that. No, you can't slip it into a tray. So I guess you're screwed. You've got to have a good case. Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:26 But anyway, he's like, you owe me a $3,500 guitar, United Airlines, to which they said, no, we don't. Get lost. Yeah, we're not liable. And that is when Canadian musician Dave in 2009 released a diss track. A diss track?
Starting point is 01:07:42 A diss track. A country music diss track. A diss track? A diss track. A country music diss track. Wow, it's a lot softer than the usual diss tracks. Yeah, it's, how long is this? Four and a half minutes long. Great music video with baggage handlers in the back, breaking his guitar, throwing the guitar around. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Well, that caused United Airlines stock to go down 10%, losing $180 million. Wow. As a direct sort of effect. Yeah, because it went crazy. It was one of the year's biggest viral videos back in the days. Yeah, there weren't many viral videos. It got a lot of airplay.
Starting point is 01:08:30 But he didn't see a dollar of it. Other than... He was rich in comeuppance, is that the term? Or he was rich in karma, I guess. So millions of views on YouTube and many people awarding it.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Time magazine named it number seven on its list of the top viral videos of 2009. Jeepers. It's been featured on many media and TV shows. And yeah, the stock price effect, yeah. Just plummeted then. $180 million in value. Wow. Dropping, yeah, massively. That'll teach them to never bloody break a guitar again, won't it?
Starting point is 01:09:05 Well, you always, because, yeah, I mean, it's a lot of money to pay out, but I guess they never saw that one coming. I travelled over to Edinburgh with a $2,000 keyboard and I arrived and it was broken. But there's nothing you can do about it. When I say broken, two of the keys at the top, it was an electric piano, had like popped out from rough handling. Yeah, I just clicked them back in. I made a hell of a fuss about it. When I say broken, two of the keys at the top, it was an electric piano, had like popped out
Starting point is 01:09:25 from rough handling. Yeah, I just clicked them back in. I made a hell of a fuss about it. So it wasn't broken? My keyboard is broken! That was me at the hotel when I got there and then I went, click. And it was fine. Alright. But does travel insurance get that though, right? Yeah, travel insurance configs it. Alright, well
Starting point is 01:09:42 today's fact of the day is that a $3,500 broken guitar once cost, in 2009, United Airlines $180 million. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole. Today's silly, silly, silly little pole. Do you prefer going out for brunch or dinner? This is a toughie. This is a real toughie.
Starting point is 01:10:38 I mean, we all like takeaways and eating out. So any excuse, if you can afford it. I know, but dinner, dinner, usually. If you had to choose one. If someone said,
Starting point is 01:10:49 okay, it's Saturday, or say on Friday, you're like, okay, this Saturday, we're going to either do brunch or dinner. Dinner.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Which, you're going to go dinner. Yeah, because it's dinner and drinks. It's the clincher for me. But then brunch can also be bottomless. I know, and then brunch turns into dinner and you're like,
Starting point is 01:11:05 I've got to go home at some point. Yeah. Yeah, I think dinner, I think more variance in the food, not always in the mood for eggs. Sometimes I want something a little spicy and yeah. Well, this one is a tight one. Okay. Only 46% brunch, 54% dinner.
Starting point is 01:11:25 It's close. I thought, yeah. Brunch is% dinner. That's close. I thought, yeah. Brunch is good, though. It is good. Especially if you've gone out for dinner the night before. Is it more of a casual social thing, brunch? Whereas dinner might be like more... Oh, we've got to go out to dinner with the Joneses.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Yeah, and it's late. Yeah, it gets late. And then it could end up boozy and then you might regret it. There might have been regret with past dinners. Yes, usually more expensive. Yeah, that's late. Yeah, it gets late. And then it could end up boozy and then you might regret it. There might have been regret with past dinners. Yes, usually more expensive. Yeah, that's true. Dinner. Though I have had myself a fair share of like $38 brunches.
Starting point is 01:11:52 And you pay the bill and you're like, sorry? Because you get two moccas and it adds up. A couple of moccas, maybe a mimosa, a main and then a sweet treat afterwards. It all adds up. And then you're like, how much? Yeah. Some feedback in. Catherine, brunch is mostly food I can make myself
Starting point is 01:12:08 at home. Pancakes, French toast, full works. That sounds like an absolute boomer there. I know. Dinner means I can do, I have things that I wouldn't normally cook because I'm the only one that likes it, like lamb or pork belly or fresh homemade pasta. Oh, yum. That's a good way
Starting point is 01:12:23 of looking at it, actually. You can always slap an egg in a fry pan. Another person, a ragtag, count a ragtag, says brunch is eggs and bread and they charge you 29 bucks for it. Dinner is an experience and it's more appropriate to get drunk.
Starting point is 01:12:39 Yeah, fair call. Not wrong there. Maria says breakfast, going out at night time feels like it's just too much energy. Yeah, if you're that person and you just want to go home, dinner can be a bit of a punish. Brittany says definitely brunch because you can go day drinking afterwards. There's a theme. There is. There's a theme for people's choices here.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Yeah. Oh, Jess says dinner, more days of the week that you can go out for people's choices here. Yeah. Oh, Jess says dinner. More days of the week that you can go out for dinner and more options. Jess, I encourage you on a Monday morning to give yourself some brunching. The nine to five gets in the way of the brunch. Yeah, exactly. Amy says brunch because dinner is too close to bedtime and your girl is 112 years old in a 33-year-old body.
Starting point is 01:13:21 I can relate. Speaking our language. Oh, Robin, brunch. Boozy brunch, though, and home into trackies before four. What could be better? Actually, that sounds nice. That does. That sounds really good. Put on a movie, wake up the next day and be like, oh, I got drunk and I feel all right.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Okay, after all of this, I vote brunch now. Oh my God, nearly every message is like dinner. You get to match it with wine or beer. You can have a drink or dinner all the time unless it's bottomless brunch. You bloody boozers. Well, silly little poll in favour of... Dinner, but only just. Play ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Right now, we are going to talk to someone I would describe as the queen of meal prep with the cost of living so crazy high. We're going to get you some tips now to make the supermarket shops a little bit cheaper. Catherine joins us now. She runs the daily menu. Good morning. Hi, good morning. How are you?
Starting point is 01:14:15 Good. Now, you must have a giant freezer. I was thinking the same. Yeah, well, when I did this meal prep, my freezer was actually full. So I had food stored in like four different freezers across Hamilton. So I was driving around like mad to pick it all up when it was all done. So how did this all start out for you? Well, it all started back in 2017 when I got into, I guess, bulk cooking
Starting point is 01:14:38 and cooked 62 meals for $100, and that post went viral. And then I just had thousands of people contact me asking for help with budgeting and with how to cook just basic family-friendly meals. So then I launched the Daily Menu, which is my meal planning business. I've just been doing a little bit here and there just to try and help families out where I can just to save the money and feed their family good food. I was having a look at some of the recipes that you do. Because when I think about a meal that costs $2.62 and bulk cooking and on a budget,
Starting point is 01:15:07 I think pasta and a tin of tomatoes and that's probably all you can afford. But no, you've got like a whole range of delicious meals. It doesn't have to be boring. Yeah, exactly. And that was the whole point of it. I shared 10 different recipes, so there was kind of something there for everyone
Starting point is 01:15:19 that they could have a go at. And yeah, definitely doesn't have to be boring, same meals over and over. And a lot of it is finding out what ingredients can overlap across a range of different meals so that you're not wasting food, you're actually using up everything that you do buy.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Do you ever, I mean, I know that you're about saving money and using everything, but you've got to be guilty of a limp carrot every now and then in the back of the veggie drawer. Oh yeah, of course. Just going to pull it out. Yeah, no different to any other Kiwi Mum.
Starting point is 01:15:49 But yeah, where I can, we try and use up whatever we've got left. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what are some tips for people getting started? Because it's kind of a catch-22, though, because you've got to be able to buy everything in bulk to then make all the bulk food. But if you're living payday to payday, that can be tough, right? Yeah, definitely. So you don't have to
Starting point is 01:16:08 cook the whole lot all at once. I just did that like I said to share a range of different ideas. So you could just choose one of those recipes. So I have already scaled the recipe up to feed sort of 10 people. So you could just have half of that for dinner, eat it fresh and then freeze the other half. And that's a really good way to get started. And you can kind of slowly
Starting point is 01:16:23 build up your freezer supply that way. The other idea is you could work with some other families. I had the idea of a group of mums getting together and you cook one recipe each in bulk. Then you kind of get together and pop all the meals around and you can pull your freezer up. Yeah, like a huge range of meals that way. That's a fun idea.
Starting point is 01:16:38 That's a good idea, yeah. What about, because I, when I used to do sort of meal prep to get ahead, I would get to about day two and then think, I just don't want that anymore. How do you avoid wastage like that? Yeah, so look at ways that you can recreate a meal. So you could do, for example, like a big batch of Mexican mince. And don't have to freeze the vegetables with it or anything else,
Starting point is 01:16:59 just the mince by itself. And you can use that for sort of 10 different recipes. You've got nachos, burritos, different wrap tacos. Oh, mince on toast with the poached egg on top. Mince on toast. Oh, yeah. God, you're amazing.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Or just like that, I was like, oh my God, that's so many dinner options. Yeah. Yeah, so that's just one example. And then there's like casseroles. You don't have to do
Starting point is 01:17:17 the whole lot all at once. You could just do like the main portion or like a roast chicken and gravy and just freeze that. So if you can do the meat portion, which generally takes
Starting point is 01:17:23 the longest to cook, and get that frozen into portion sizes for your family or for yourself. Do you have tips for like, if you're going to unfreeze meat, like are you microwaving it or are you reheating it in the pan? Like what are some,
Starting point is 01:17:35 because that's the problem with meal prep is sometimes it doesn't unfreeze that well. Unfreeze very well. Yeah, I mean, it depends on what the meal is. I mean, if you're freezing, say, a casserole, for example, in the chicken casserole that I shared, it hasn't got a huge amount of vegetables in it because sometimes when you reheat it, it goes really watery
Starting point is 01:17:51 because the vegetables hold the water. And I also included like a kumara mash or you could do pumpkin mash instead of potatoes because potatoes really hold the water and you don't want a big watery kind of puddle that you're trying to eat. So it's about being selective with the ingredients that you are freezing as well.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Amazing. So many great tips. Yeah, I ingredients that you are freezing as well. Amazing. So many great tips. Yeah, I'm already inspired. $2.62 per meal. I mean, that's cheaper than a pad thai from Uber Eats. Oh, yeah. Well, how many pad thais from Uber Eats would you get? So many.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Maybe two weekly. Yeah. Hey, if somebody wants some tips and to know more, whereabouts can they go? So we just go to the Daily Menu on Facebook or thedailymenu.co.nz. You can trial my meal planning free for seven days. And then from then it's $5 a week to subscribe. So hopefully it's affordable for everyone if they need a bit of extra hand.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Yeah, that's cheap, isn't it? That's really awesome. Yeah, you're going to be helping a lot of people at such a tough time, Catherine. So thanks so much for talking to us. Oh, thanks very much. We love you. Thanks for the chat.

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