ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 10th May 2024

Episode Date: May 9, 2024

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The ZM Podcast Network. The Fletchbourne and Hayley Big Pod. Great Things at Brewing at McCafe. The perfect start to every day. Hello, good morning. Welcome to the show. Fletchbourne and Hayley this morning broadcasting live from the Polly and Grant Memorial Studio in Wellington.

And as you just heard, Bryn mentioned Transpower last night, shocking the country with news that between 7 and 9 this morning, we must keep our power usage down. Now, is that why you two are charging your watches and phones right now? It's why we're sharing a microphone. We've opted to not have two mics going to support this. Because I don't know. So we're sharing. You'll very rarely hear both of us speaking at the same time for the foreseeable future.

We're not fighting. It's just you're sliding the mic between yourselves. And for those that aren't in radio, radio microphones take a lot of power, almost as much power as an inter-island ferry in one hour. Well, should we knock off at 7? In solidarity. No, we've got a busy show. We're already doing our part.

We've got a busy show today. Do we? Oh a busy show. We're already doing our part. We've got a busy show today. Do we? The top six. Oh my God, can we talk about what we're going to have our eyes on from 7am New Zealand time? Piers Morgan, personally not a fan. Yeah, personally a piece of shit. But he does get some good interviews. He's interviewing, what's her name? The real Martha from Baby Reindeer.

Fiona. Fiona. Into the mic. Fiona. I had to slide the mic. And that's live streaming on his YouTube from Seven. So we're going to have our eye on it. And we'll update you with all the best bits. Juicy bits. You don't need to go anywhere. We've got the best bits. Oh, I'm so excited

because she is, like, even the interviews she's done in newspapers, she's I mean, you've seen the show, she's Delulu. That's what the show, I was like, is she as Delulu? You know how you'll remember someone who's wronged you or worse than they are? I was like, is it Exeggc? But I don't seem it, does it? No, it really doesn't. Exeggc nailed it.

The top six dealing with the cutbacks in power. Top six ways to stay warm without power this morning. Yeah, we'll keep you updated throughout the morning. They're saying between seven and nine are the peak times for the national grid, and that is when we need to cut back on usage. So heating, wear a puffer. You're going to have all these tips in the top six.

Wear a MacPak puffer. Exactly. Thank you, Hayley. Wear a MacPak puffer. We're giving away a MacPak $2,000 prize pack today for Mother's Day. Oh, we should do it before seven so they'll be nice and warm. We'll get a good fast courier. I don't know if we can fast courier it that fast.

Next on the show. If you, well, we actually have a stat in front of us, and then within about 30 seconds, we sort of tore it apart a bit. It's about libido and sleep. Broadcasting from our Wellington studios this morning, we had a little technical issue with Vaughan's microphone. I believe that's now working. That is working, yes.

Oh, Hayley. Yeah, I'm working. But now we're using extra power. Because we were cutting one third of the power required for microphones. New Zealand, if you're waking up and you haven't heard the news, we need to save power this morning because the national grid is under strain. Seven to nine? Turn off the lights, Hayley.

Okay. We'll do our bit. Well, it's not seven yet. No, but we should start now. Start? All right, hang on. I don't know if that's how it works. Oh, yeah, nice. Oh, that's actually quite moody.

It's actually quite moody. We're like nighttime broadcasters. Shout out to the tropical South Dunedin this morning with the warmest temperature in New Zealand. It's currently 10.4. While up the road in Christchurch, it's minus two. It's three degrees in Wellington. It's zero in Hamilton and four in Auckland.

So it is one of the coldest morning of the year so far and hence the warnings. Read the power usage this morning. There could be cuts. We'll keep you updated throughout the morning. Chuck on a puffer. Yeah. Get an extra duvet.

Yeah. Fluffy socks. You'll be right. Although our producer, Carmel, was saying it's quite busy on the roads early this morning, so I wonder if people are just going into work and just using the work air con. Yeah, so that's still not... It's still not... You're still using the power.

It doesn't matter where you are. I don't know. You're still using it. Hey, okay, so I have a study before me. This study has a name. It's focused around women. It's called The Impact of Sleep on Female Sexual Response and Behaviour. Oh, okay.

Because men are horny, tired or fully rested. Men are just always 24-7 horndogs. Well, I mean yeah, I guess so. But this looks at the impact of sleep on hormones, particularly in women, and its impact on libido. Okay.

And it hypothesises based on these results that women, if they got one hour's extra sleep, one hour extra sleep, it would increase their libido by 14%. That's a big jump. Wow, that's a big jump. Now,

I said this, I said, I pitched it to the group. Yep. What we do in the morning when we plan the show is we all get up in front of a whiteboard and we pitch what we want to talk about. What we do in the morning when we plan the show is we all get up in front of a whiteboard and we pitch what we want to talk about. And this was top of my list. And I said this and we all went, oh, interesting. And I said, well, if I'm not, I barely get any sleep.

But as we know, I've had a real bump in my libido. All you're reading is the horny book. Horny books, listening to the horny stuff. Your comedy show which is out. All about erotica. So I was like, well it would be dangerous for me to get more sleep. But you said before you're catching up on years of

a repressed libido due to the contraceptive pill. Yeah, I know. You've got a backlog, baby. Do you reckon I'll flush it out? How many years were you on this pill Crushing your labides 16 And you've been off it for 6 months

Jesus Even working at double speed You've got 8 years of horniness I did want to check because Fletch and I did share a wall last night Do we have the plugs in So there's a joke amongst the three of us As soon as you get into our hotel You you shut the door, lock the door, and play with yourself.

It's what everybody does in a hotel. Why are we paying otherwise? When we checked in yesterday, you guys went to get coffee, but I needed quite a desperate poo. So I went up to the hotel room. Then, like, after a little bit, I was mincing around in the room. Yeah. Getting a fresh T-shirt on.

Mincing? Is that a new term? I haven't heard that one. There was no time because Fletch put a hard time on leaving. We had like 15 minutes. So there was no time for a hotel. But then I heard through the wall

this noise that I thought was Hayley being silly, making sex noises. Yeah. And I was like, bang, bang, bang. Not her room. Not my room. Yeah, remember,

because there was like two rooms between us. But I didn't know what number you guys had because I went up first. But then you heard us coming back from coffee and we're like, uh-oh.

After I've been like, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Oi! So I'm very sorry if you're in room 911 on the ninth floor of the Ridges in Wellington yesterday

and you were trying to have some afternoon delight with yourself or with a loved one. I'm not here to judge. Sorry, I interrupted. Some bastard doing, oi, oi. Banging on the wall. Well, maybe some more sleep.

Maybe that could help. If you've got Lola B. Jesus. Sade's napping two times a day and I'm still not getting it. Yeah, Jesus. Really? See, that's the thing. We've debunked this study quite quickly between the three of us.

Sade probably sleeps three times as much as Hayley, but Hayley's three times as horny as Sade. Yeah, I know. How does that work? Fletch, you get a lot of sleep. How's your labades? Yeah, it's good. Healthy? Yeah, good.

I didn't hear you through the wall. I was just sleeping. I just slept. What did you? Next on the show. What a waste. What a waste of a hotel room. Next on the show, AI will do something waste of a hotel room Next on the show AI will

Do something to your loved ones Who have passed away Yeah I know I don't know how to do that I don't know how to do that I don't know how to do that Not a good idea We'll explain next

You know When you lose a loved one It can be a tough time Indeed I just drop the pace And picture my voice in the air, but it sounds sympathetic in this time of your life. Your voice just sounds sick and croaky.

Yeah, a little. I was like, why are we talking about dead people and you're making it sexy? Why am I making it so sexy? Well, it was only a matter of time before AI said, if they die, they don't need to live forever in a creepy AI way. Oh, no. Apparently now with enough information, you can talk to departed ones. Do you know there would be enough of us with all the hundreds and hundreds of podcasts we've recorded

to put those into AI and to have enough Vaughan Smith? Both voice and photos, videos, your face and stuff. I don't, I don't, do you know what? I feel so conflicted by this because I've been quite lucky in the death department. I've lost my grandparents and like one, you know, my marching coach and her husband. But like, other than that,

I'm pretty like good with immediate family. Yeah. And so I'm like, oh, I would never do this. This is horrible. And they're saying it could digitally haunt you for the rest of your life because you're sort of never really letting go of them. But I'm like, I'm sure I'd feel different

if I lost someone I really loved. And I was like, I just want to have a conversation with them. Like when you're old, like you see those, have you seen that video online of that old boy and they got a photo of his wife and they just basically put of his wife and they just basically put one of those filters on it that can make the face move. Oh, God.

And it was her singing her favourite song and he was like in tears because he said it was like the most beautiful thing he'd ever seen. Oh, I know. But then like. It's a bit creepy because it's not them, is it? I know. It's not them. No, it's not.

I sort of get that like bringing, having a, holding a little video of them doing something, but being able to engage in a conversation with your past husband or something. Yeah. Wasn't this also in a Black Mirror episode? I feel like it was. I feel like everything to do with AI was in a Black Mirror episode. Well, there's a research in Cambridge University looking into the long-term impacts of AI chatbots.

They're calling them dead bots. That sucks. That needs a rebrand. That needs a rebrand. I've got minimal experience in marketing, but I think that needs a – we need to have a brainstorm. Like a sort of afterlife AI AL, afterlife AI. But they're saying it's high risk because of the long lasting psychological harm

that it could cause. Let alone the they're calling it it's fundamentally disrespectful to the dead. Not even going

from their side. Yeah, yeah. And be like, well you're not here so I'll just do what I want with your likeness. And you're a bit like,

do you know because we brother I you know we've got lots Oh, brother. Oh, brother. I, you know, we've got lots of taxidermy in our house. Yes, speaking of disrespecting the dead. Speaking of disrespecting the dead, just let them be. And we had, we were like, would you taxidermy Rolly when the time comes?

That's your cat. In 20 years, my cat. And we were like, maybe. And then I saw a video of a like cat mad couple that had done this. It was shocking. It was haunting. It came out of the box and it's like so familiar,

but so stiff and dead. I was like, ooh, no. You couldn't do it. Brother. Brother. Let them rest. Play. ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley.

Saving power this morning because the national grid is under strain. Well, you said that, but we turned the lights off in solidarity, but I noticed you put them back on. Well, I couldn't see what I was doing. So, I mean, it's essential that we broadcast to the nation. We are in essential service. To tell people that we've got to cut back on power this morning, otherwise there could be cuts.

It just feels hypocritical. Between 7 and 9. The radio runs on batteries. If you've got a battery transistor, get that out, tune in to us on FM. Wind it up, those emergency radios. Otherwise, if you're listening on your phone on iHeartRadio and you've got your phone charged.

That's already charged. That's a great way. That really doesn't count, does it? Listen away. Yeah, I will keep you updated throughout the morning, though. But yeah, it's a very cold start to the day across the country. You are... I will say Dunedin and Invercargill, still on 10 degrees,

but they have lost the warmest place to Kaitaia, 11. Oh, okay. Abami, 11 this morning. Everyone else in very cold, single, low digits. Fletch, stop dancing around. You're putting it off. He needs to issue a formal apology on here. Wow, do I?

You do. I apologise. Not everyone wanted to see that. To those in the BNZ building yesterday in Wellington and those in the Fisher Funds building in Wellington because we were staying at the hotel across the road and I didn't even think about it. I just got changed, got out of the shower.

The man sleeps nude. I sleep nude and I actually slept in a t-shirt and boxes last night. Do you not like hotel sheets? Yeah, hotel sheets but also it was cold and I couldn't get my heater to work. Chilly willy. Yeah, so I was like, don't say you couldn't get your heater to work.

So you went without heating to take the strain off the national grid. I was going to turn the heater on. Paying yourself a hero every opportunity. And then I was like, I better do my bit for the national grid. And so that's why I sleep without a heater. Not that I just couldn't get it to work. Is it the sun or the ice that makes it cold or warm the heater?

Is this guy just realizing? Or do I want the air con on the ice because it's icy cold am i combating the sing the signal the symbol the symbol are you working with it or am i working with the symbol am i putting the sun on when it's sunny or do i want to put the sun on when i want it to feel yeah i always i even have to google l1 at home every time it gets to winter i'm like which one am i doing again i have to google the brand of heat. Every time it gets to winter, I'm like, which one am I doing again? I have to Google the brand of heat pump and the symbols to what they mean. Which one is it? Can't we just go for a universal

temperature? Make it warmer. Make it colder. Yeah. One of our remotes actually says heat, cool, dry. That's great thinking. That's good for them. But again, today we're not doing that because we're saving power. But I do need to apologise because I got out of the shower and then I didn't even think about it.

Gruts. Like, there was even a time of partial nudity. I feel like no apology needed. You're looking great at the moment. I feel like if you live... At the moment. I'm actually with Fisher Funds for my KiwiSaver and I've had a huge bump in KiwiSaver.

Have you? Over nine. Yesterday afternoon, apparently, the office was inspired to make some great investments. What activity was up? I had a friend that worked in an advertising agency next to a hotel in Auckland, and they would always

see nude guests. One of them sat by the window by all the... As you would. They'd email and be like, oh my god, quick, look. And they'd always just go. Of course you would. And there was always stuff happening. I mean, you live in an apartment in town and your apartment faces some apartments. You'd see

some nudes. But you just kind of become oblivious to it. When I got out of the shower, you said, I'm just oblivious to it. And then I just look up and I'm like, oh my god, there's literally office workers just over there. So my apologies. I did pull the curtains after that. Feel free to text us

if you did catch a glimpse. Because as I mentioned, at the moment he's looking good. He's had some rough moments. Expecting a blowout any moment. Anyway, can't say that. I thought we agreed we were all yo-yo except I seem to be stuck in the down

part of the yo-yo. Or is it the up part of the yo-yo? I'm here with boys. Or is it the up part of the yo-yo? I don't know. Because is the yo-yo representing the weight? Or the depths of... Yeah. Or if you've got a tight yo-yo in the hand, and I've got the yo-yo walking the dog,

it's just spinning at the bottom. It's just spinning at the bottom. You have abandoned us in the world of yo-yo. I can't yo-yo up until you yo-yo down. He knows. I'll be back. I'll be back. Have you seen all the delicious cakes out there?

Yeah, you can't keep it up. Play ZM's Fletchford and Hayley. Play ZM's blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This is the Top Six. Yes, blah. This is the Top Six. Yes, hello. The Top Six today dealing with the increased demand on our national power grid this morning and Transpower asking everybody to do what they can. Every little bit counts, they say.

So the latest this morning from Transpower, they say that the situation is still very tight. The cold snap has actually been colder than expected in the North Island. So that's causing the increased load and demand. There's been a low amount of wind generation. So there is still a potential for a shortfall in electricity between 7 a.m. and 9. This is like we're living in a third world country. It's not quite so bad. Have you seen the power lines in Thailand?

They go like this. Literally. When you walk past them. Those power lines, are you like, how does that work? It's like a thousand of them. How's this all going? So you New Zealanders are being asked between 7 and 9, or just now, to cut back on your power this morning. The opposition is blaming the current national government.

They're blaming the previous Labour government, who were blaming the previous national government, who were blaming the previous Labour government, who were blaming the previous national government, who were blaming the previous Labour government. They had Shipley ridden all over it. Who were blaming the previous national government. It's Michael Joseph Savage's fault.

Sounds like a real Muldoon thing, not to build a hydroelectric dam. It's got a tang of Muldoon on it. But yeah, real cold around the country. And the North Island got into negatives. Taumaranui was minus 4.6. Palmerston North, minus 3. Marston in minus 2.

Levin, Paraparaumu and Taupo were minus 1.5. Hamilton, minus 1. It got down to minus 6.3 in Christchurch. It's warmed up. It has warmed up. It got down to minus 6.3 in Christchurch. It's warmed up. It has warmed up. It's only minus one now. Yeah. The North Island,

Marsden and Minus Street, everywhere is like really low single digits right now, looking at temps. Well, I've got the top six ways to stay warm without using too much power this morning as the mercury plummets. Number six on the list. Little morning smooch-a-roo with a loved one.

Oh, yeah. A little bit of get it going. A little bit. God, I'm rambunctious. A little bit of get it going. A little bit of get that. Get up on that caboose. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See what's happening out there. A lot of heat.

Number five on the list. What if you do, if you're like us, and you woke up in a single, you know, in a hotel room? Single. Who said I woke up by myself in a hotel room? I did. What? We were staying close to Parliament. I know, room. I did. What? We were staying close to Parliament.

I know, yeah. You've got the Chloe Swarbrick. Oh, yeah, I know. Wasn't she engaged? Were you doing that thing where you pretend the pillow's a person? I think it was. I think I might have been a pillow.

Number five on the list of the top six ways to stay warm without power this morning is the Mercury Plum. Let's get two of your pals and do a radio show in a small Wellington studio. It's warm in here. It's nice.

We're all in t-shirts. I can feel the cold coming off the window and it's actually quite nice. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's very warm in this small studio with three people. It's lovely. It's cute.

Number four on the list of the top six ways to stay warm without power this morning as the mercury plummets. Put on some bloody socks, Sade, and a sweatshirt. She will have walked out in her sleeping t-shirt and undies in a minute. socks, Sade, and a sweatshirt. She will have walked out in her sleeping t-shirt

and undies in a minute. Oh my God, it's freezing this morning. Every heat thing would have gone on in our house. Yeah. Put on some socks. We've got so many socks.

Put on some leggings. Number three on the list of the top six ways to stay warm without power this morning is it's freezing cold. Just stay in bed. Don't move.

Just call in, like, have a sick day. Yeah, wee into it. You don't want to boil the jug to fill up the hot water bottle, so wee into the hot water bottle. That way you don't have to How hot is your wheeze? It's too hot. It's too hot if you're picking up a hottie. Nothing worse than a lukewarm hottie. No, exactly.

Rather none. We're doing Antarctica for Fact of the Day. The week's theme is Antarctica. Someone messaged saying you should do a fact about the little water bottle. If they're staying overnight on the ice to stop them going out into the insane cold to do wheeze and possibly get frostbite at the tip of the penis.

Oh, we don't want that. They've got a special bottle they wee into and then they cuddle up for warmth. How big's the opening? I'd say standard hot water bottle. Why? You're worried it's too small? No, I'm just like, what if you miss? What if you miss? Oh, God.

Have you got a wizard sleeve you can rethrow? It's all about how big the opening is. Surely any bottle. You don't want to miss and then you're peeing all over your sleeping bag. Oh, because then it would freeze. Yeah, that'd suck. It'd have to be quite a wide, you know, I'm thinking maybe a Gatorade, a Powerade. Oh, yeah, at least.

A Mizon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It Gatorade, a Powerade. Oh, yeah, at least. A Mizon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's got to be a Mizon. You've got a wide opening on your Flash Les Mills bottle there. Yeah. Would you call that wide, would you? I would. Interesting.

More than enough. And then she drinks out of it. Number two on the list of the top six ways to stay warm without power this morning is the Mercury Plummets. Bust out Nana's furs that you're publicly kind of like embarrassed about, but you just couldn't possibly throw out because... Vintage. Vintage.

Yeah, because you've got a few vintage furs that you don't tell Peter about. Oh, it's vintage. All right. It's vintage. You know, I didn't kill the animals. Well, the animal died at a time where it was all right. It's easy waste to throw them out now. What am I going to do?

Just throw them in the bin. That feels worse. On a morning like this morning, pop them on. You'll I going to do? Just throw them in the bin. That feels worse. On a morning like this morning, pop them on, you'll be absolutely warm and look like Crowell and DeVille. And if you get a hole in it and you have to, you know,

patch it with some fresh fur. Rabbits, possums, you've got lots of them. Exactly. Pain in the ass. Yeah. And number one on the list of the top six ways to stay warm this morning

without power, get all your rubbish and put it in an old oil drum. Yeah. And then set it on fire. Okay. And then kind of like hang out around the hot drum. Like the homeless person. You've got to open the windows in the ranch slide.

I'd do it outside. Oh, right. If I could be so bold. Well, I want to be inside. Why am I going outside? It's cold. Do the fire inside. Doesn't seem like a great idea. It'll warm up the whole house. I've only got a small house. Beautiful toxic fuse. One drum will do it.

And it's recycling week, so you've got all those plastics that you can... Yeah. My bin's overflowing. Save on. Gorgeous. That's today's top six. Play.

ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. We'll update you with the latest news at 7. We're pending with the upcoming potential. Excuse me, Vaughan. We're on air. You're just watching a movie. I do apologise. Watching a trailer there.

In seven minutes' time, we have to shut these laptops and go quiet. We've got the same power. In an effort to get the latest on that. Right. Well, we'll update you because, yeah, we are facing potential power cuts. We've got to, as a country, use less power between 7 and 9. So, but don't turn us off. Obviously, we don't count.

No, no, no, no. They've said, other than Fletchford and Hayley, between 6 and 9. All other radio shows are a waste of power. Off. Turn those off. Get them off. But keep us most definitely on. Yeah.

Now, we're in Wellington. And yesterday, here's the thing. We get off air at 9 a.m. Our flight was 10 a.m., and Auckland Airport is quite far from the office. So you do the math. Yeah. Short on time. Also, at the moment, I don't know if they're one of the political, I know the government

organisations that have had cutbacks, but why do they always only have Oh, pin another... There's like seven security things and they only open two of them and there's like a massive line. Snaking. So we didn't have baggage, we literally ran in,

ditched the car, to security, no time. No bags, we didn't check bags, we were straight there, in the line. to security. Yep. No time. No bags. We didn't check bags. We were straight there in the line. Seven minutes. No.

Yes. Seven minutes until boarding. No, check-in closed. Check-in closed. And I know this because I got a notification on my phone saying, check-in closing. You are not checked in. Now, I'm mid snake

in the queue, right? And then I said to myself, I was like, I'll make it through on time and I'll go to the Kauru lounge. Go to the desk. And I'll say to them, I haven't checked in.

Yeah. But I thought I had because I like selected my seat. I thought I'd done it. And then, so I had to do a ditch and run. I left my suitcase with the boys and just sort of wished them good luck explaining that. Yeah, because you know what happened when you left?

It dawned on Vaughn, who had taken your suitcase, what's in your suitcase? Because you had told us. I travel with a friend. You travel with your toys. Yes. You like to. I like to indulge in a hotel room. And then Vaughn was like, well great, now I've

got to take this through security. And then I've got to say it's mine because you're not allowed to take any luggage through there that's not. Yes. So if they said to you sir, can I have a look through your bag? You'd have to be like, yes. And they'd be like, sir, are these underwear yours? Yeah. Yes. And I would say, yes, Paige, granny panties are mine. Are your thing?

Are you trying to pan a choice? You wouldn't be stood there explaining some nice, lacy, tiny things. Sir, this looks quite large. Are you sure this is yours? I've got a kink. For big granny panties. Yeah. And then the other thing.

So anyway, I ditched the bag. I sprinted across. Quick check in. Because you were just going to stay in the line and hope you got through before 9.30. And I was like, no, this is not happening. Well, when I came back to the line and jumped ahead, oh my God, we did a double cut. So I came back and I was like, I'm too embarrassed to say,

can I get back to where my friends are? Because you guys hadn't even gone to the security line yet. But luckily, where I came in, you guys were just passing a point and just cut back into the line. And you checked in. Which was good because the parent behind us had spent a good 20 minutes telling their kid to not play with the thing that makes the lines at the airport and not go under them and not go through them.

And then this adult with pink hair comes in. Hey, hey, kids. And this kid was just like, I've lied to so you know we make it to the flight but then there's this mystery smell yeah so i was i was there and there was in-flight wi-fi because it was an international it was a plane that obviously goes to australia because we're movies and stuff and um i got i hooked onto the wi-fi and that's why I was able to message you. Someone has straight up shat themselves. Because there was, as soon as the plane closed the doors and stuff,

I couldn't even put my finger on what the smell was. If it was poops, it was... Chemically. Chemically. It was one of those ones where you've... Yeah, because we'd get, because I was sitting next to Vaughan and you were on the other side,

but then we'd get a waft every now and again. And then I thought, oh, has Vaughn farted? And then I was like, that's not a Vaughn fart. It's gross and I know that. You do know that. And I was like, that's, it's not a fart. It's something more. It's like a lingering, this shit sitting somewhere that's mixing with something.

Mixing and it felt, to me, it gave off a liquid nature. Yeah, it wasn't good. off a liquid nature. Yeah. It wasn't good. It was not good. Do you know what? I've said this before. I feel sorry for the people that opened the plane doors. I know.

My face was scrunched up the whole time. I was just like, oh, God, bro. But it wasn't you. It was not me. Also, despite the fact that there was a stink, I think the lady who sat next to Fletch and I would have happily swapped with you because Fletch punched her in the head with his bag. Yes, intently.

He smothered her out of his bag and cracked her in the head. And she was like this. And then it happened again with another lady. And then when I was putting away my tray table, I like shut her nice puffer jacket in the thing and put a hole in it. She didn't see the hole that I put in her puffer jacket. And then we got to the, you went upstairs to go relieve yourself of a poop at the hotel. We got there back from coffee and she was checking into the hotel.

She's like, I can't escape them. Yeah. She was like, stop stalking me. And we were like. That's why you never sit in the aisle row at the front. You get everyone. Bags. Bags.

Yeah. All right. We'll update you with the latest in news next. And Baby Reindeer interview is starting in two minutes. Yeah, we're going to update you because Baby Reindeer is the actual, what's her name? Martha. Her name's Fiona in real life. Piers Morgan's going to interview her.

If you haven't seen it, it's the Netflix show that everybody's talking about. Yeah, I'll give you some of the best highlights of that interview as well. So we're in Wellington for a client event in which we had a lovely lunch, a sit down lunch. Lovely lunch. I'd expect the cash flow into the company to be through the roof.

Especially after you're socialising. Vaughan loves socialising. We actually got very, we did well socially. We were hosting groups of chats. More on that later. Yeah, Hayley had a bit of a rough day yesterday.

I did, I did. I was aged up. Anyway, during that, we were at a table, the three of us next to each other and some clients and whatnot. And we got chatting with one of the clients. It was right after there was this delicious tray of meat came out. Oh, that's right. Meat and cheese.

And the vegetarian and vegan meals came out at the same time. Yeah. Meat and cheese. And then more meat. And then more meat. Yeah. And then I finished with a bit more cheese. It was delicious. Anyway, so this guy opposite me,

he got the, you know, he was sharing in on the meat and we were talking about the vegetarian meals and he was like, oh, I was vegetarian for like... 13 years. 13 years? Yeah.

Wow. I was living in London as a vegetarian. Yeah. Which I think would probably be easier. Yeah, they'd have more options. Yeah, definitely. They'd also have more meat. And then more delicious food. You might have more options, but also more meat. Yeah. They do love a shawarma over more options. definitely more options. And then more meat. And then more delicious food.

You might have more options but also more meat. They do love a shawarma over there though, tell you what. Oh yeah. Dry. Anyway,

so he was saying, oh, you know, I gave up vegetarianism and we were like, oh, what got ya? And he said,

it's always one thing. One, something breaks you. And what was it? It was a cheap fried chicken. He said he was, yeah,

it was just dirty, like side of the road, hole in the wall, fried chicken. He walked past and he went, I'm out. Just the smell of it. And he was like, oh no. Yeah. After 13 years. And he ate it and he said, I'm going to be riddled with guilt in the morning and woke

up and he was like, I feel better than ever. Yeah. No Catholic guilt here. I'm back, baby. I'm back on the meat. He was saying this as he was her, I feel better than ever. Yeah. He's like, no Catholic guilt here. I'm back, baby. I'm back on the meat. He was saying this as he was herding into some delicious beef. Right, and so he hasn't looked back since. Never looked back.

Your brother's story is better than that, I reckon. Well, because then we were sharing, because I've never been a vegetarian, but my brother was vegetarian for years, like 15 years or something like that. And then his was, my brother lives in Melbourne, and he came home for a little trip bunning sausage sizzle.

Like staunch, like wouldn't even eat the cheese with the rennet in it. Like was like staunch vegetarian. And then was like, I'm out. And then I think he had like three or four of them. And also no offence to the sausage sizzles outside.

Anywhere they're raising money, they're never a high quality sauce. Not a premium sauce. They're a pre-cooked elbows and assholes, you know? They really are. Anyway, I wanted to, because there's always that one meal that broke it. We all know this person. What is the thing that got you and brought you out of vegetarianism or veganism?

Because even like veganism's the next step, right? Because cheese is, oh my God, it's so yum. Yeah, it's so yum. You can eat cheese anywhere. There's pudding cheeses, there's breakfast cheeses. I bet Vaughan you can make vegan cheese now, can't you? I've tried your vegan cheese. It's good for what it is.

And there's nothing against those that are vegan or vegetarian. Oh, proud of you. But it is a funny story. And these are the stories we want to hear this morning. What got you? What broke you? Yeah. What's the one meal that you just went, I'm out?

Also, I feel like there's a lot of drinking involved in this because people are drunk and kind of drop a little bit, right? Yeah. Drop their guard a little bit. Yeah. But then maybe not. Maybe it is. You're just at Bunnings.

And you smell a sauce. Because you do. You do. In a moment of mental weakness. It just dip onions. And you smell sauce. Of course you do. You do. Especially if it's the onions. I reckon it's the onions. The aromatics. Yeah.

If you've got a sausage sizzle on this weekend, get onions on there, even if you're not going to, like, people aren't going to get, the smell will draw the people in. I tell you what, you just have a little pottle of minced garlic as well. Chuck that on there.

Get the aromatics going. You'll draw people in with all the senses. Okay, 0800DARLS at M. We want to take your calls now. You can text her as well, 9696. What is the food that immediately made you stop being a vegetarian? Still the power. The power's still on?

As far as I can see, here it is. We're doing all right? Can confirm. Yep, the power's still on. Okay, great. Just if you've woken up and you've been under a rock, we've meant to save power this morning. Huge strain on the national grid.

Your wife didn't know, did she? Yes, she did. She just didn't care. That's how she lives. This is how she rolls. He's loved that. Did you tell her to turn that? Because you can see on the app, right, are the heat pumps on? No, I can't see on the app if the heat pumps are on.

You wish you could, though. Yeah, I certainly do. I certainly do. I've got to upgrade that. Yeah, definitely. Right now, we're talking about the food that snapped you out of vegetarianism. Because we're at a client event at the moment. That's why we're in Wellington and chatted to a guy yesterday.

His was cheap fried chicken. My brother's was a sausage from the Bunnings sausage sizzle. Yeah, and we're getting some amazing stories. So whether it was veganism, because there's all kinds, pescatarians. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What broke you out of your snap? What snapped you? Nicole joins us.

Good morning, Nicole. What got you? Hey there. Eventually it was the crispy chicken snack wraps from McDonald's. Dude, dude. I saw crispy chicken in the text and I was like, is it the McDonald's one? Yeah.

How long had you been a vegetarian? Well, probably like five years, but my friends all seem to have this great game where they try to feed me meat. And so they would, like, if I'd get, like, an onion sausage sizzle, you know, just the onion but no sausage, they'd chuck a bit of sausage. Ooh!

Wait, wait, wait. Brother ooh, brother ooh. Wait, you would be at a bunning sausage sizzle and just get bread and onion. Actually, though. No butter. And sauce. And sauce.

No, marge. Bit of marge. Bit of marge, vegetarian friendly, innit? Oh, yum. Oh, wow. So wait, were you at Nonald's or were you at the drive-thru? Oh, no. The time I remember we were having some sort of picnic in the park

and they all got McDonald's and they brought me, they were like, you need to have this chicken snack wrap. I was like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. And then they started eating one. They're like, there's one here for you. I was like, nah, nah, nah. When you're saying nah, nah, nah, I think it goes, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. And you gave in.

You gave in and you've never gone back. Well, technically, yeah, I did go back. Oh, did you? But this was after many snack wraps, many snack wraps. She had like 20 of them and was like, right, I've had my fill. Current status? Vegetarianism?

Current status is meat eating with lentils in my meal. Oh, yeah, okay. Fair enough. Well, we should all be eating a lot of plants. Vaughan's like that. I should eat plants. The thing I eat, eats plants. So you are sort of eating

plants by proxy. We're working on Vaughan's gut health, Nicole. Thank you. Ben joins us. Ben, what got you? Yeah, so this was actually my sister. So she was three years vego over in England. Yeah.

And she moved back here, and we were walking past St. Pierre's, and she went in and had chicken and rice. Jesus. Chicken and rice. That doesn't even smell. She wasn't lured in by the smell. It's in a plastic container. Yeah.

What was it? There's a picture of it in the window. It's the mayo that gets you.'t lured in by the smell. It's in a plastic container. Yeah. What was it? The picture of it in the window. It's the mayo that gets you. It's the sauce in the mayo. Yeah. Okay. And then got her after... Smell of cold cooked rice.

And fishy seaweed. Broke her. Ben, thank you. Some messages in. My sister was vegetarian and I idolised her. That's nice. So at the age of 13, I went vegetarian too. Mum was not happy about it.

After three weeks, she'd had a gutsful. She bought every type of salami from the supermarket. That broke me. My sister lasted a lot longer but finally broke. It was McDonald's nuggies. It was chicken nuggets. Chicken nuggets that got her. Show spawn.

Breaking people. Somebody said, I went from vegan to beef nachos. That's a vegan, isn't it? No, so you were vegan. And then you go, so beef nachos have got beef, sour cream. Yeah. Cheese. Cheese.

A lot of cheese on the top. She went for the deep end of the pool. Wow. And that got me issues. Like, I've not looked back. Quite a few people were messaging it about their kids who have a stint as a teenager, as a vegetarian. Yeah, you do. You watch one video, eh,

from Peter of the Pigs and the Peanuts, and you're like, it's my personality now. Yeah. I'm a teenager. And as a mum, that would be so annoying, cooking a whole extra meal.

They'd give you the charge of cooking their own meals. Yeah. And bacon sandwiches tend to be the way to break them back. Yes. Yeah. It's the way to break them back. Yes. Yeah. It's the smell of bacon, eh? Yes.

My cousin was a fully-fledged vegan until he smelt fried chicken one time, and he just crumbled into a heap of fried chicken and ate his way out. Whitebait patties at Christmas? Oh, it's not really a meat. You'll be all right. It's got eyes, though. Yeah, lots of tiny eyes. And sometimes you can see the little eyes.

In my head, I'm always like, that's cracked pepper. That's cracked pepper. Cracked pepper, cracked pepper, cracked pepper. Whee! My vegetarian friend said, what are you eating?

I said, it's biltong. They'd never heard of it. I said, it's a processed plant. After the first few pieces, she wouldn't stop. I said, you better stop because it's meat. And I was just kidding before.

And she eats everything now. She's back. It was biltong. Oh, wow. Biltong I said, you better stop because it's meat. And I was just kidding before. And she eats everything now. She's back. It was Biltong. Oh, wow. Biltong. A chewy way to re-enter the meat market. Yeah. Chewy right away.

A few Christmas dinners. Yes. Just with the glazed ham. I had a couple of friends that were vegetarian or vegan other than Christmas. And they gave themselves a day off because mum would cook a big bloody lamb and a ham and all this and they'd be like, well, I'll just have the day. I'll have the day off. It also sounds like they didn't want to be teased by the entire family.

It's just easier. Uncles are always very forgiving of a different lifestyle, aren't they? Yeah. And we're certainly not endorsing tricking your friends. No, respect their decision. It's pretty rough. You shouldn't trick your friends. If you want to waft a. No, respect their decision. I mean, it's pretty rough. You shouldn't trick your friends. If you want to waft a bit of crispy chick their way.

Very soon we're going to talk about Baby Reindeer. I've got it going on in the background. Oh my God, so this is streaming. Subtitles on. This is the first interview that she has done. Unfortunately, it's with Piers Morgan. It's fine. I'd say he's been shockingly neutral for Piers.

Right, okay. My take on it so far, we're going to put some clips together. Jared's on it on the other end in Auckland, but my take on it so far

is deny, deny, deny. Yeah. I'm getting quite an angry vibe from her. Do you want her to smile, love? Are you saying give us a smile? I Are you saying give us a smile, love? I'm not saying give us a smile. He's so much prettier when he smiles.

Is he telling her to warm up the place? Don't say that to her. She'll get your number. Never leave your line. Play ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. Play ZM. I haven't stopped harping on about the fact that the comedy festival is on right now. It's started.

It's off. And not just the nationals. the internationals are here as well. And we are delighted to be joined by the host of the Guilty Feminist podcast, Deborah Francis-White. Thank you so much for having me. It is an unqualified delight to be here. Oh, my Lord. That's the nicest way a guest has ever responded

to an introduction. An unqualified delight. I aim to be the loveliest guest you've ever had. We were well on track. Oh, we've had some lovely guests. That's my only goal today. Right. Now, if you haven't listened to the Guilty Feminist podcast, which would be honestly an absurd notion, it's had

isn't it like over a hundred million? It's nearly 200 million now. Wow. Okay, that's amazing. Now, I went on the website guiltyfeminist.com and here's an example of it that I've taken from your website. I'm a feminist but is the statement. One time I went

on a women's rights march and I popped into a department store to use the loo and I got distracted trying out face cream and when I came out the march was gone. That did happen to me and I was really awful because I just had to put my sign in a bin I remember that listen I'm not proud of it but I confessed it thinking they'd all kick me out of the feminist club it's one of the first things I ever confessed on the show and honestly tens of thousands of women have said to me I also left a march earlier just people get a bit claustrophobic, their back hurts.

It's a lot. Nearly everyone's left a protest earlier. People who go to protests, nearly everyone at some point has gone, I can't do this anymore. But the thing is, you turned up and you were counted. If you carry that in the body, if you think, oh, I'm the worst one, and you go home, you carry guilt. Do you know what guilt turns into if you carry it on the body?

Cancer. Cancer. I was going to say shame. But it's so interesting that you've immediately gone for cancer. the body? Cancer. Cancer. I was going to say shame. But it's so interesting that you've immediately gone for cancer. Oh my God. Yeah. So shame, shame what it does is it drags you down and it makes you

less than you are. You carry that round and then you are in a situation where you want to speak up because something's unjust or unfair or unequal in some way for yourself or for somebody else. think you might think well actually it's all right for me but there are you know hold on how are there any white women on this project and this project is also going to affect indigenous women in this country I need to speak

up because I know someone who'd be brilliant in this room right now yes if you carry shame and you think I'm not actually that great a feminist or I'm not actually that good an activist or I'm not really very good at changing the world because you're holding on to all of this stuff, you are less likely to speak up when it actually matters. So that's why I think we need to accept that we don't have to be perfect to be a force for meaningful change because anyone who reckons they're doing it all the time,

they're thinking all the right thoughts, they're saying all the right things, they're doing all the right things, they're not. That's a lie. That's made up. Nobody is Instagram perfect all of the time, they're thinking all the right thoughts, they're saying all the right things, they're doing all the right things. They're not. That's a lie. That's made up. Nobody is Instagram perfect all of the time. No, I'm trying to think of an example of

when I've been a bad feminist. I mean, I've got a very massive boyfriend and I weaponise my incompetence daily. You have a very massive boyfriend. Yeah, I do. I like to try to tell all guests that come in the studio about how massive your boyfriend is. Giant of a man.

Massive he is. Yeah. So you weaponise your femininity. So it's sort of like, I'm a feminist, but not when it's time to put the penis out. Like, I'm strong and dependent, but when I'm like, I don't want to do that. You know, turn into a bad feminist for a short period of time.

For a short period of time. For someone to do something for me. Yeah. Give me tickles and gifts. You know, like, how bad is that? I'm a feminist, but not when there's a mouse in the house, is what you're saying.

Mouse, I can handle. But if there's a M-O-T-H in the house, yeah, I'm no longer a feminist. Wow, you have to spell it. She can't say it. She's actually come a long way. She didn't even used to be able to spell it. Yeah.

I have phobias like that, but I'm not saying them on the radio. No. Well done. As part of the festival, you're doing a live podcast recording. That's right. The Guilty Feminist has always been live since day one because we wanted to do stand-up comedy and I sort of think, you know, you don't

really know what's funny or interesting unless there's an audience there giving you that feedback. Yes. So I really like doing it live in front of an audience. So day one in December 2015 was our first show. We did it in front of a live audience. We had 30 people in the audience. I knew half of them by name.

Yes. That's how most live audiences go these days. Yeah, that's how it started. But then the next show we had 200 people. The next show we had 500 people. And then by 2019 we were playing the Royal Albert Hall. Wow. We played the Palladium, Sydney Opera House, Wellington Arena.

Wow. And I will say the Wellington Arena was maybe my favourite show we've ever done. We did that February 2020. I thought, well, this show is absolutely peaking. The only way is up, I thought. March 2020, he landed back in London and then was not allowed to leave my house legally for the next two years. So that was a tough time because we had to do it all via Zoom.

And, you know, to go from the Wellington Arena to Zoom, I've got to say, was a come down and a half, baby. But honestly, there's something about Wellington and the Guilty Film. It was the first time we ever went there. We'd never been there, so we didn't think anybody would really know who we were or anything.

My friend Grace Petrie, she's a queer protest folk singer and she's a lot more fun than she sounds. You've got the trill, you've got the trill thread there. She is so funny. She is so funny and she is such a brilliant and inspirational singer. She does her own stuff and we always cover I Will Survive at the end. She gets everyone dancing.

She's so wonderful. And she and I walked down the street in Wellington. Neither of us ever had been there. We couldn't get down the street for people stopping us because they loved the podcast there so much. Wow, that's awesome. Yeah, we went into a lesbian bar and they just said, your money's no good here.

And they just gave us free drinks. And I was like, this is what, we just love Wellington so damn much. This is Hayley's dream for walking to a bar. Especially a lesbian bar. You were probably trying to pay with British pounds and they're like, that's no good here. And you took up a massive tab and then just buggered off. Yeah, how pissed were you?

I think that's very much, when they said your money's no good here, we assumed we were famous. And it turns out we just stole their drinks. No, they were just so lovely. And I feel like that show at the Wellington Arena kept me going through lockdown because we used to listen to it all the time to go, remember when? Because they were just, what I will is new zealanders know how to bring

a rock concert to a podcast recording yeah they just are so i and i think some of it same in australia but they say some of it is because we've flown 24 hours and they're they're i was gonna say because we often just i feel grateful you haven't forgotten us they're just like you flew 24 hours thank you but i genuinely do feel a connection to new ze audiences and and I that show in Wellington I we used to send it because I used to take I was taking video from the stage and used to send Grace video of this I remember sitting on that stage I was with the incredible Cal Wilson who so tragically we lost last year so surprising and shocking and uh I've never done a show in New Zealand without Cal before so I I'm I'm already feeling like crying just talking about doing shows without Cal.

Luckily, Michelle Aycourt, who was one of Cal's best mates, is stepping into the breach. Another hilarious woman. Oh, my God, she's amazing. And so she and I are going to co-host all of the shows. But I would love it if all of the Guilt Feminist fans would come out because it is the first time I've done it without Cal and I'm going to need you.

Need some support. So you're doing Christchurch, Auckland and Wellington. That's right. Christchurch on the 11th of May. Auckland at the Bruce Mason Centre on the 14th of May. And Wellington at the Opera House

on the 15th of May. Deborah, thank you so much. Guiltyfeminist.com. Go to live shows, book the tickets and best of luck. Thank you. Thanks for having me.

Play. ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. Now at this stage, you know, because we've been asked by Trans Power, the people in charge of the power. Yep, you got it. Good boy. To save power this morning, to conserve power, because it's very cold over most of the entire country.

Currently minus one in Hamilton. It's four degrees in Auckland, three in Wellington. Crash, it's just sitting on zero. And I googled current Transpower New Zealand usage. Oh my God, they've got a live graph. Oh, I like that. You know how they're like, hey guys, New Zealand, save power. Oh, we're using more than usual. Guys. You can literally see the dip from when people wake up at like between four and five to now. And although to be fair, it's kind of a bit less than last night. Or is it the same?

It's exactly the same, isn't it? So nobody in New Zealand at the moment is using any less power. I'm turning the light out again. I actually just messaged a friend who put up a picture in the spa saying great morning for a spa. It's not a great morning for a spa. The general advice was we don't use hydrate devices. It's not a great morning for a spa. The general advice was we don't use hydrate devices. It's not a good morning for a spa. Don't worry guys,

I've just turned the light off. Oh, that seagull's huge! I know, it was right out here. There's a yuck seagull right outside. Oh, there's a yuck seagull. It's closest I've ever been to a seagull of that size. Excuse me! What's happening to my left ear? There's an iPad charging and an Apple Watch charging.

That's not my iPad. I'm charging my watch. Are you charging the iPad? Should we not be charging? But watches don't take much power. And neither do iPads. Okay, unplug it. They're off.

Okay, nah. The graph has not moved. The Transpower grid has not moved. Refresh the page. I've turned the line off and two charges. Surely. No, it's actually, it's gone up more as more people wake up. We'll just turn those back on then.

Now, we're currently broadcasting in our Wellington studio. Yeah, and we went to a client event yesterday. And you know me, I'm a Wellington girl. Shut up. I'll stop you before you even say it because you went around telling the whole event that I was from Rangiora. I don't remember that. It was not part of my consciousness. Well, you kept telling people you were proudly from Wellington.

I said I'm happy to be home, happy to be home, proud Welly girl. Do you know who was born in Wellington? Me. Yeah. Well, when you say you're a proud knacky boy, I will be calling you out. So I was excited because the three of us were here and I was like, well, let's go out for dinner.

We'll go to one of my favourite places that I've been to four years since I was at high school. My dad and I used to go at least once a fortnight and have lovely food. Vaughan and I, we went years ago. Years ago. Yeah, it was great. So I suggested it, booked it.

Booked it hot on five. Yeah. And I was excited. And then yesterday, quite a lot of Gen Zs there yesterday. Yeah, millennials. I would have said millennials. Millennial Gen Z cast, young people, younger than us. And they were there and we had some lovely chats with some clients and some advertisers.

And then I said, they said, where are you going for dinner? Oh, what are you doing tonight? I said, oh, well, we're going out for dinner. Where are you going? One of my favorite places. Where is it? And I said the name of the restaurant, which I won't say because I stand by them. Yeah.

And then it was a collection of about four women that went, oh, yeah. And then Fletcher's face just goes, why is it bad? Is she taking us to a bad restaurant? And they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I just think there's like better places in Wellington now that are a bit more like, you know, up to date. And I was like, excuse me. Wow.

And Hayley was, you were quite salty. Genuinely. You were salty the first four times this happened. Yeah. Because I think it happened six times.

Yeah. Six different times. Six different times I said where we were going for dinner. Because I left Wellington seven years ago. I have been in Auckland for quite some time. And I sort of didn't believe them. In fact, at one point, the group of four went away. And I said, I don't know what the hell they're talking about.

You know? Yeah. These woke youngies. I said, they've got no idea what good food is talking about. You know? Yeah. These woke youngies. I said, they've got no idea what good food is if it bit them on the ass. These woke youngies? You make it sound like we're going to some Confederate diner. We was going to South New Zealand while we're eating like it's 1820. Some grits.

No, I was just like, they don't know what they're talking about. But then we made friends with another couple of, you know. Locals. Locals. Locals. Who, again, were a really good band. And I was like, I'm loving the company. This is great. I trust them.

And then I said, where are we going for dinner? And I said, da-da-da-da-da. And they went, oh, no. Oh, Hayley. Yeah, I know. Oh, get with the play. And then, so I was bullied out of enjoying one of my favourite Wellington restaurants. And we went to a place that they recommended, which was amazing.

Well, it was exceptional. Yeah. But we don't know that my place wouldn't have been. So anyway, I'm back in Wellington next week for my show, which opens on Wednesday. And I was like, I'll just take myself for a little solo day. Take yourself back. Yeah. Kind of on the down low.

Judgment free. No pressure of impressing or Fletch and Vaughn with my restaurant recommendation. I don't need a lot. I just need food. I know. I'm a simple man to please. It was good food though. It was great food.

Where we went was honestly. But it was funny watching you being bullied over the afternoon out of your booking. And then we just didn't turn up for the booking because it was like 10 minutes till the booking and I was like so sorry if you had a booking for me yesterday. I didn't turn up but I will be there next week. Baby Reindeer

has taken the world by storm basically. It's a Netflix series written by Richard Gad is that his name? Yep. Yeah. And it. Which he also plays himself.

He plays himself. Yeah. And at the top of the show, it says, this is a true story. And that's what Piers Morgan in this interview said at the intro. It doesn't say based on real events or based on a true story. It says this is a true story and so it's about him as an Edinburgh comedian performer being stalked by someone

who visited him at a pub and the character's name is Martha and it's a harrowing story of stalking. It's a rollercoaster the stalking's a part of it. Yeah. There's one particularly hard-to-watch episode

that deals with sexual assault that's got a big trigger warning at the start of it. Yeah, that happened during this time of his life. Yeah. Anyway, so everyone after this show has been trying to find the real Martha, and they've found her very easily. Well, she put her hand up, and she said,

my name's Fiona, and I'm not happy about how I've been represented here. Yeah. And so Piers Morgan, who she chose for being a great professional broadcaster,

had an interview that literally wrapped 30 seconds ago and you can now watch it on his YouTube. We've been like kind of dipping in and out of this interview. I think the subtitle's on for the whole hour.

It is like as unhinged as you would expect, right? She's crazy. Yeah. And so it was basically like here's what he said.

What's your response to that? And I believe there has not been one single part of that show that she hasn't denied. Here's some clips of some of her denials, I guess. I think what you're saying is there is a possibility that you send a lot of emails.

No, I didn't say that. But that it doesn't mean that you did the more serious things. Yeah, I am not saying at all that I sent loads of emails. You maybe misheard playback the interview. What I'm saying is a handful at most. But if he does have 350 voice messages. I know that he doesn't. And it's your voice.

He doesn't. And everyone can now hear your voice. Unless he was taping me in the holy arms. Or he just kept them on his phone. I didn't phone him. You sound unconvinced, but I didn't phone him again. I mean, what? So is your point that you,

are you challenging him to reveal this evidence? No, I just would, I would challenge him to leave me alone. Because you're calling him a liar and you're calling Netflix accomplice to these lies. I didn't use those words. I said the story and the play, the Netflix show is not true. No, but if they say that you sent 41,000 emails, 350 voice messages. Well, they are completely wrong. you sent 41,000 emails 350 voice messages

They are completely wrong. They're completely wrong. So they are lying. They are lying. Yes, okay, yeah, in effect he is lying and they are lying they have billed it as a true story so has he, and it's not. It's blatantly not. Even if the

email thing was true, the rest is not. Even if the email thing was true, the rest is not. Even if the email thing was true, the rest is not. And he also asked her about the, you know how it's always like sent from my iPhone, even though she doesn't have an iPhone and was sending the emails from a laptop. And she was like, I'm not a tech, Wes. I don't know. I couldn't do it.

I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, I know. It's like, what? So she's accusing him of these 350 voice messages that he says he has. She's accusing him of recording her at the pub without her knowing. And then what, editing them to sound like voicemails? Yeah. Okay.

At the end of the interview, he says, you could just be lying about this whole thing. She says, I don't lie. I don't lie. I tell a white lie. And she's a terrible example. She says she has no criminal record because at the end, you know, spoiler alert. But she does so? Well, here's the thing.

I mean, these are all things that can be proven very easily. That's exactly what Piers Morgan said. He's like, well, if there are 41,000 emails, there are 350 voice messages, that's all stuff that Richard Gad, the creator and the victim, says he has. So I guess the ball's in his court now to be like,

this is everything she's denied and here's the evidence. She's called him a psychopath. She says her boyfriend's a lawyer. They're exploring to sue both him and Netflix. She also said she's only met him five to six times. Yeah.

Tops. Piers Morgan said to her, if you had to guess, how many times? Five, six? Yeah. Five to six times. Yeah.

In total. Well, I guess over to you. She's been with this boyfriend now for five years who's a very high profile lawyer. Important lawyer. She also wanted everyone to know she's got lots of friends. Yeah, he asked her about relationships

and she said, oh well I did tell your producers relationships were off the cards but I've had many. Many relationships. She has denied literally everything that's happened in that. She went into the pub not saying that she didn't have enough money to get a meal. She was having a meal. She was chatting with friends.

She was just chatting. Just had banter with him. Had banter with him. Oh my, it was a wild interview. So it's, Piers Morgan has streamed the entire interview on YouTube. So you can watch the whole 55 minutes. I would. It's an interesting watch. It's, yeah.

I'm now like, how many days until Richard Gagg comes out with the receipts? He has to do a follow-up interview. 100%. He has to bring the receipts. And also, I'm waiting for one of those British tabloid sites like the Daily has to do a follow-up interview. 100%. He has to bring the receipts. And also, I'm waiting for one of those British tabloid sites like the Daily Mail to do a language... The body language expert. A body language expert breaks down.

Because she was... Blinking a lot. Blinking a lot. And then the side eye, and always grabbing a cup of water. Looking around the room. Yeah. It's a wild interview. My favourite line from that was, are you challenging, like Pia says to her,

are you challenging Richard Gadd to prove, to bring the proof to light? She's like, no. I'm challenging him to leave me alone.

And I was like, yeah, well, that's what you want, isn't it? Play Zed-N. Let's vote on Ailey. Play Zed-N. Ah, Woolworths

or Countdown or Three Guys, if we're going to go to the history of the supermarket and what it's called, has faced a little bit of a problem. They had a promotion called the Big Night In Promotion and it offered people a chance to win 4,000 reward points, which were there because this has replaced the one card. Oh, yes, I've got that. Equal to a $30 voucher.

There was a mistake, however, and you have won a prize notification email, which was only intended for 1,000 people, was sent to 80,000. Well, they have to honour. No, they're revoking them. Are they? No, you've got to honour.

They're revoking them the absolute fastest. This is the second thing that's gone wrong with this. Because do you remember when they were launched? People found that loophole where if they joined multiple times and linked the points. They'd get the sign-on. Like when everyone signed on for KiwiSaver. And they got a little Kickstarter. Yeah, and then people were going in and spending their bonus.

And they shut that down pretty quick. But not before like several hundred people took advantage of that loophole. Okay, it is $2.4 million worth of vouchers that they've sent out there, rather than 3,000. Is that right? 80,000 people received it? Yeah. Yeah, times $30.

It's $2.4 million. Oh, wow. Okay, so they're not honouring those. Yeah, but $2.4 million to us is not the same as $2.4 million to Woolworths. To a supermarket. Yeah, okay. So they're revoking them. You can't do that.

Surely it's like a consumer law thing, right? Honour the price or, you know, something in there. I don't know. What they've just said that... Well, it said that they were going to be added to the account within the next three days and you could redeem them in-store or online. So I guess they just sent again being like, nah.

Jokes. Earlier today, you may have received an email from us about your big night in prize draw for last week telling you you'd won a prize. Unfortunately, we made a mistake and sent that winner to some customers that weren't drawn as winners. Whoopsie doopsie do.

We're sorry to inform you, you were one of those customers. Ouch. Yeah, so I just thought, just had to let a courier into my front door. Sorry, courier. He's got a second time in a row. He just goes off and goes, open.

Open. Also, what sort of bat cave is this guy living in that he can just be like, open, Alfred, open. What are you ordering? Why are you getting so many packages? No, I'm just getting cat food. I'm getting cat food. You know you can get that.

You go to Woolworths and use your $30 voucher you received. I get the big bulk things and it's getting delivered. Also, do you know there's a loophole? Have you ever bought cat food from the multiple places you can buy cat food online? No. You can get auto delivery and they take like 20%

off. But then you can cancel the auto delivery. Loophole. Oh, but you still get the subscription fee. Well, I think it's a loophole. I'm going to try it. Nice. So you get 20% off. If you subscribe

to the regular auto renew. So you get 20% off. If you subscribe to the regular auto renew. So you would go like subscribe, order bag. And then every 10 weeks get one automatically delivered. Yeah. Or 20 weeks or whatever you choose. You pick your delivery thing. And you get this like 25% or 20% discount. So I was like, yeah, I want that.

Yeah. But I'm like, I don't know when I need another bag. So I just quite. That's not even up to you. It's up to Major Marts. But apparently you can just like cancel. So there's a big loophole there. Is it a loophole?

Am I like breaking the law? You're under arrest. The police are here actually. You're in big trouble. I don't know. It just feels like it's a good loophole. It feels like it's a good loophole. Storming down the hallway because you saved 20% on a cat biscuit.

Well, I have to save 20% on cat biscuits because I can't use my $30 Woolworths voucher now. God, you'd think he was going through a hard time. Yeah, just a remote 30 seconds ago, a'd think he was going through a hard time. Yeah, just for our remote you 30 seconds ago he voice opened his door. He's alright. He voice opened his door. He can afford cat food. It's Sabrina Carpenter, registered master builder. Espresso on ZM824.

I actually, no, I don't know if she's registered, to be honest. That was good from her. That was a good dad. Was that a good dad joke? That was really good. Thank you. You could have said Sabrina, teenage witch, carpenter, registered master builder. Like, that's just.

That's a lot, though. That's a lot to take on. That's a lot. It's a lot. For an amateur like you. Thank you. He's learning. Right now, it's time for.

Fact of the day, day, Day, Day, Day. We did have some feedback last night at our client event about the Fact of the Day jingle. Oh, my gosh. Someone came up to us and they said, I would never thought I would have listened to you. But you hooked me. Other than that, I was like, sorry. It's a device.

Kids love it. But then we heard from somebody else that their child still sings along every morning. And she wanted to clarify she likes Fact of the Day, just not the jingle. Just not the jingle, yeah. Well, this one goes out to that person. Okay. Oh, great. I'm goes out to that person. Okay.

Oh, great. I'm actually going to remember her name. She was lovely. I don't think she did. I don't think we asked. Well, it's Antartris. Give me Julie vibes. Julie.

Yeah, she's classy. Yeah, classy. Julie. Classy Julie. Well, we've had a few people submit facts for Antarctic Week. It's been a fun week for Antarctic facts chilly brrr

lying great today because it's cold and that's what it's like being in Antarctica most of the time I did really like the blood waterfall in Antarctica

what? there's a blood waterfall in Antarctica with the blood of seals from the killer whales no quick just quick it was a

it's an old it's a water source that's been pushed up from underground and as it goes it goes through iron deposits, and it grabs it, and then when it hits the oxygen, it rusts because it's such fine particles. And so it looks like blood, but it's just rusty water. I'm going to have a little googly.

Rusty water. You look up the blood waterfalls of Antarctica. But I want to talk today about Antarctica and Tinder. Oh, okay. Oh, my God. It was a lonely December night in Antarctica's McMurdo Station, the American base down there

in Antarctica. These blood waterfalls are insane. It looks like... Oh my god, Google that. Yeah, good. Google that, unless you're driving. Do that later. Oh my god. Bookmark that for later. That could be a really good desktop for this. Maybe send it over. Actually, that would be nice for Mac OS update.

Simona, I think we're up to now for Mac. I'm over Yosemite and all that. Yeah, yeah, beautiful. Anybody's counting? It was a lonely December night at McMurdo Station. An American scientist, before he got stationed in Antarctica, had used Tinder. Oh, yeah.

Now, this was when internet was available but limited. Yep. Not in the old days. I was reading a Reddit article to see if this is actually true, this story. I couldn't find anybody really debunking it,

but there was a Reddit article saying somebody was based there back in the day when internet was, like, super limited, and they basically had enough internet allowance per week to get two emails,

just text. Just text, no pictures. Wow, okay. When they were down there. Mom, Dad, I'm doing fine. Saw a penguin. Alive, X, X. They could satellite phone and radio communication.

Right. A little, not as easy, again, not as easy as today, but they could do it. But they said, obviously, this was after that. 2014, a lonely night. He had had Tinder when he was in America. In Antarctica, he was, like, bored. And he's like, I wonder if this will even work here.

Yeah. Opens it up. Where would he find? New Zealand? Well, maybe he gets someone from Southland. You might get a Southland Sheila. Yeah. And they're the best Sheilas on the planet.

Depending where in Antarctica you might get a bottom in South America. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's a bit better. The bottom of Chile, Argentina. Might get a little bit. Yeah. Unless somebody's down in the Auckland Islands. Anyway, he opens it up, finds a match, finds somebody in the area.

Wow. It's like, match, because you are the only one. Yep. Next time he opens up his phone, he's got a notification. I've had a official match. Wow. She was camping at the time, and she was in the tent in the dry valleys. Okay.

And she was using satellite internet as well. Okay. It popped on Tinder as well. Well, she didn't even know she had her Tinder open, apparently. Right. It had been in the background

and just, she got the ding notification someone's trying to match with you and she's like, oh my God, opens it and it's like, oh funny, matches,

they catch up for a cute date. Oh my God, did they shag? She was so, no word of shagging took place. If you're in Antarctica, you be shagging. She was leaving the next day, though. Ew.

How long do you need? So that's what... He's like, if she'd been staying, we could have been having some more dates. We could have caught up a few more times, but we did, like, catch up really quickly in passing and have a good laugh about the fact that we'd matched on Tinder. Yeah.

And we may indeed be Antarctica's first Tinder match. Wow. Here's why we haven't matched on Tinder. Yeah. And we may indeed be Antarctica's first Tinder match. Wow. Here's why we haven't heard any more. Okay. After it. Oh, she got eaten by a killer whale. Well, she killed him. She killed him.

No, no. Murdering Antarctica. The National Science Foundation in America wanted no more of these sorts of stories to come out as they were wondering that they were thinking that they would lose their funding for serious scientific missions if it was trivialized by polar passion. No, it humanizes them. We always love love. Yeah.

I mean, let's say in person without Tinder, there's been some Antarctic hookups. Oh, 100%. You would have to when those storms hit and they're stuck inside. Yeah. Canoodling. For days and days, you're going to have to have a little canoodle. Imagine if you're in your Antarctic intake and you all land and then you're like, great. Yeah. Canoodling. For days and days, you're going to have to have a little canoodle. Imagine if you're in your Antarctic intake

and you all land and then you're like, great. Yeah. I reckon your standards are going to drop. Looking around. Day by day.

Nothing like isolation to drop the standards a little bit, you know. Day by day, they drop. Desperation and time equals standards lower. So today's fact of the day is there has been

one reported successful Tinder match in Antarctica and it's been pretty quiet ever since. Fact of the Day is there has been one reported successful Tinder match in Antarctica, and it's been pretty quiet ever since. Fact of the Day, Day, Day, do, do. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Play ZM. I've talked about this before, that I've never been on the dating apps,

never been on any of them, but I have many a friend who is having a harrowing time on the apps that have been available to us. But now there's a new one and it's been made here in New Zealand and the creator, Emily Hazelwood, joins us. Good morning, Emily. Good morning. So why, when there is Tinder and Bumble and Grindr and Hinge and Tuesday, wasn't there one that you could only talk on Tuesdays or something like that?

Did you think, I'm going to make a dating app? Yeah, very good question. I think a lot of them don't rely on compatibility, like what actually counts, what makes you work out of the app. And so, yeah, we just thought, you know what, let's actually make one that cuts through all the noise, gets rid of what's the dating fatigue that I think, you know, your friend and obviously a lot of Kiwis are dealing with.

And yeah, and prove out that you can meet your match in the digital world. But yeah, meet someone that you're actually compatible with, not just, you know, that's physically attractive or the algorithm puts in front of you. Yeah. Cause that, I would say that's the main thing, right? Like there's no, is there an algorithm on your, your other dating apps or is it just like, um, hot? Yep. Hot. Yeah, yeah. It's totally. So the more swipe rights you ask, usually based on your image, that's the sort of algorithm that they'll be basing their matches off. So for us, it's more about your attachment style,

your personality type, your values, you know, if you've got kids or wanting kids, all those sort of key things that make people actually last. So the other dating apps, if you're a minger and no one's swiping on you and you're not getting any matches. Your fantastic personality is not shining through. You just can't. That's what people are finding, right?

I felt like you both pointed at me. No, my fingers just sort of around. That's where your fingers went. But that's like how they work, right? No six pack. Yeah, you're stuffed definitely I know

and it's terrible right because I think it's us girls that are actually the ones that are being a bit harder on the guys the guys are giving girls a shot where us girls

I think it's like the top wife to see to something of men that actually gets wiped what you've actually said across there is men are not fussy

at all yeah whenever I see an article and it's like this trick always works for women in bars. I'm like, is it turning up? Because that's all that's required.

So your app is called Amor. Amor, A-M-O-R. A-M-O-R. And so this algorithm you've, have you created this algorithm? Yes. Yeah, so what you do is you sign up, you jump through these 60 questions that are all multi-choice, are quite easy to get through, usually takes about 10 to 15 minutes.

And then what that does is it builds your profile, telling you like, you know, what you are, you know, if you're anxious or secure and whatnot. And then every Sunday at 4pm, we'll allocate you matches that are 70% plus compatibility with you. What? So on a Sunday? Oh my God, I would love that at the end of a weekend, actually. A little treat. I know. And then you can head through to the week. We had, I think, hundreds of messages exchanged in the last 24 hours, but hopefully those people are all teeing up dates for this week. So yeah, it kind of cuts through the calendars, I guess, for busy people. Emily, you are probably too young to remember this, but when I was

young at school, there used to be a compatibility test where you'd put your name and then loves and then their name and you'd see how many corresponding letters there were and basically whittle it down until it was two digits. And that was your compatibility percentage out of 100. That's right. It sounds very solid, the maths side.

The maths. You can't argue the maths. You don't have to do all this tech. Yeah, they seem way ahead of us. So this is currently, you've launched it and it's currently New Zealand only. Is that right? Correct. Yeah, we launched, I think, two weeks ago.

We've got probably 400 people on the app already, which is cool. So Christchurch, Auckland and Wellington predominantly are the open cities. But then once we've got regions with, I think it's 50 plus members, then we unlock your region. Right. And so you get these matches and then what happens? Do you have a certain amount of time to talk to them? Yeah, I mean, you've got that match.

You can read their profile, learn about them, and then jump into chatting. So no, we don't take them off you. It's only until you unmatch them or the other person unmatches you that you'll lose that match. Right. I love this. So it's only until you unmatch them or the other person unmatches you that you'll lose that match. Right. I love this. So it's a subscription base. So you pay for a subscription.

You're out there. This is for people, I guess, that are actually like being authentic, are really looking for that love connection, right? You're trying to do something deeper and a little bit more meaningful than just your endless swiping through, I'm going to say, the D-bags.

No, totally. The people we've got, it's wholesome, eh? And we've got people from 18 to 75 that have figured out exactly who they are and what they want. Now, are they connecting to 18 and 75? No! Do you still select an age range or is it all just

in a pot? No, don't you worry, you definitely select things like gender and age and all those. Emily, what have you got in place to stop the gays turning this into another app for just cheap hookups? Don't blame the gays, Vaughn. I've actually just had a gay ask me what's her plan to stop us getting in there and corrupting this. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Look, to be honest, like if you find someone that matches you, it's up to you. I mean, ideally, you're only going to get up to three matches. So hopefully we stay very clear from the hookup culture. He just said three is not nearly enough. Three a day, like, three an hour. There are other apps for you. Yeah, yeah.

He's realising that. So that's a good question, though. It's all sexualities, all genders? So we're currently female, male, non-binary. We are looking at expanding that out for, you know, all the range of different options out there. We're just currently working with the community to understand how that would work from a functionality,

yeah, from an algorithm side. But we love the gays, the straights and everyone and anyone. We will make it work. I love that. Well, exciting. So it's downloadable Apple and Google Play? Correct. A-M-O-R.

A-M-O-R. Amour. Amour. Emily, thank you so much. I look forward to trying it when I get divorced. Thank you, Emily. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley, silly little pole, silly little pole.

It is so silly, silly, silly that the silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole. Silly Little Pole came up because I saw, I think it was a TV show. They were talking about the end of the loaf of bread and they called it the ends. No, it's the crust. I call it the crust. We call it the crust. And we also call the bit around the outside of normal slice.

The crust. The crust. Which I believe is the New Zealand thing to do it. Right. I don't eat the crust. Neither. Yuck. Like I chuck them out.

I'll put it back on a loaf of bread like till the end. Yeah. Same. Keep it fresh. Kind of keeps it fresh. That's in my mind too. It's like a little plug. What do you call those things that you put on the end of your books?

Bookends. Bookends. They hold your books together. Yeah, they do. It holds the loaf. Yeah. But I'll let them rattle around the freezer for a couple of years. Oh yeah. If it's a freezer bread. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They'll rattle around and then every now and then if I've got a shocker of a hangover and there's no toast, it'll get toasted. I toast it if there's no toast but if there's no toast, it'll get toasted. I toast it if there's no toast, but if there's another loaf, I'll,

it's the pigs, all of the animals on the farm. You've got to make croutons, guys. Oh, yeah. Cube it up. Yeah. Chuck it in a pan

with some olive oil. Now, I don't do this all the time. I don't like croutons. Am I allowed? Is that a controversial thing? If they're like the croutons of this soup,

I'm like, hold those. I don't need mouth stabbers. Unless you make them yourself. Am I allowed? Is that a controversial thing? If they're like the croutons of this soup, I'm like, hold those. I don't need mouth stabbers. Unless you make them yourself. I like making them myself because they're light, not those like real tight ones. Well, what is the end of the piece of bread called? It's got various names around the world.

In Norway and Sweden, they call it the skulk. Skulk. The dupka in Poland, the... Oh, careful with your Germans and the K-Ns. It's got a whole lot of names from around the world, but we asked you,

what do you call it? Well, 85% of people call it the crust. Yeah. 11% of people call it the end. 2% call it the heel and 2% call it the heel. And 2% call it something entirely different. The heel.

The heel. That's a very popular one around the world. That sounds American. Yeah. The butt. Does Jared call it the heel? You suggested the heel, producer Jared. Is that what you call it?

Yeah. The heel. Because it's all crusty and dry. And then yesterday you didn't know what road patrol was. I'm starting to think South Africa's a bit weird. I think it's a bit off there. Not the best education. Yeah, right.

The heel. Okay. Nikki messaged in saying our family's always called it the butt. The bread butt. I kind of like the bread butt. I must admit. I like the bread butt. I kind of like the bread butt. Yeah. I must admit. I like the bread butt.

Yeah. It's the knob, Nikita. So we've had a Nikki and a Nikita and they both call, what are you chasing around the studio? A fruit fly.

Don't. Your manky banana. It's not my manky banana. It's your bag of fruit. No, it's your manky banana. You brought that in. You brought that in with a manky bag of fruit.

He's bringing in fruit flies now. I'm not bringing in fruit flies. With your ripe muffin only bananas That banana's got a good few days left in it No, it is good for a loaf, a cake or a muffin Nicky's the butt Nikita's the knob Knob?

The knob Okay No, we don't call it the knob No, it's a knob of butter It's not a knob of bread Knob of bread Jesse said we have always called that the butt So that's another vote for the butt It seems the butt could be popular It's the a knob of bread. Knob of bread. Jessie said we have always called that the butt. So that's another vote for the butt.

It seems the butt could be popular. It's the crust, says Ash. Any other answers come from people here? It's by me now. I am listening, Vaughn. It seems like no one's listening. There's a fruit fly in the air and it's yours. It's not my fault.

I think you got it. It's just a big bag of manky fruit. I think I just got it. No, his fruit is fresh. Yours is manky. So Ash says it's a crust. Anyone else who answers anything differently clearly has rocks in their head. Yeah, the toast crust.

Big call for rocks in their head there. That would be a dad bum. Everyone else leaves it sitting in the packet so my dad gets stuck eating them. Charlotte says that that's Charlotte's idea. We call it the outsider, says Liz. Oh, yeah. Weird. The outsider's an unusual name. Dad's toast is what we've always called the outsider, says Liz. Oh, yeah. Weird. The outsider's an unusual name.

Dad's toast is what we've always called that, says Polly. Oh, Dad. It's the knobby, says Adam. The crust is the outer edge that runs around the perimeter of each slice, and the thing that's all crust is called the knobby. No. The crust says it's crusty as a crusty thing, and that is crusty and called a crusty.

Okay. And, oh, my God, it's definitelyy as a crusty thing, and that is crusty and called a crusty. Okay. And, oh, my God, it's definitely heel technically from a baker. Oh. From a baker. Okay. Well, we must listen. Do you know what's the best? It's not the best part of a loaf,

but it is often the best part of a cheese and bacon loaf from the bakery. Yeah, we're talking about a loaf of bread, it's the worst. Yeah. But if you're getting a... Fresh baked. A salad. A fresh baked loaf. If we're doing a loaf. If we're doing a loaf, it can, with enough butter, be probably the king worst. Yeah. But if you're getting a... Fresh baked. A sourdough. If we're doing loaf.

If we're doing a loaf, it can, with enough butter, be probably the king piece of the bread. It'll take a tooth out. Yeah. Yeah. But it's delicious. The baker says the heel technically,

but we just call it a crust. Everybody knows what you mean by that in this country. Oh, another one in the bag. It's a Versace bag as well. If you enjoyed that, give us a rating and a review and be sure to tell your mates. You don't sound sincere there, boy. I'm just reading what's written here.

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