ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 13th of February, 2025

Episode Date: February 12, 2025

DUOLINGO KILLED THE OWL WHAT YOU SHOULDN'T SAY IN A JOB INTERVIEW  TOP 6 OTHER WAYS MCDONALDS CAN SNEAK INTO WANAKA  SNAPCHAT STREAK SLP - WHAT IS THE BEST PEN COLOUR?  TAYLOR SWIFT MAD...E THE NRL A BILLION DOLLARS  SHANNON'S HACK FOR AIR TRANSPORT WHAT DID YOU ACCIDENTALLY CONSUME?  VAUGHAN'S GOT A MOUSE WHAT ARE YOU AND YOUR PARTNER FIGHTING ABOUT RIGHT NOW?  FOTD  PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR CASSIE BRIT'S EX DID A POD See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:30 From the ZM Podcast Network, this is Flesh, Fawn and Hayley's Big Pod. Brought to you by Chemist Warehouse, the biggest brands at the lowest prices. ZM's Flesh, Fawn and Hayley. Good boy Bryn. Thanks Bryn. Good boy Bryn. Good boy, Bryn. Thanks, Bryn. Good boy, Bryn. Good boy. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Happy Thursday. Yes. Still no winner for Secret Sound. Nope. ZM's $50,000 Secret Sound, $10,000 the current jackpot. Your next chance is coming up at 7am this morning. Just before the news, listen up for the activator.
Starting point is 00:01:04 To win the cash, just guess the sound. Win the cash. There's that sound again. It's always when you think you've got it, because in my head, I'm like, it's like paper or wood. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:22 And then it'll come out that it's like a fruit. You know what I mean? You're like, okay, well, I was well off. I was well off. All the previous guesses, keep an eye on the ZM Secret Sound Instagram page. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:36 I go up every day because if you get through the line. You don't want to be someone that's guessed something we've already had. It'll be a public. Yeah. What's the word? Roasting ridic. It'll be a public Yeah. What's the word? Roasting ridicule. Flogging. Yeah. Are the top six on the way? That is correct, Fletch.
Starting point is 00:01:54 The top six is on the way. The top six ways McDonald's can sneak into Wanaka. Wanaka, the council, I guess it's up to them, eh? Yeah. Have declined the resource consent for McDonald's to open one of their steamed ham franchise burger outlets in Wanaka. I did love the news headline, Wanaka tells Maccas to burger off. Oh, that's nice.
Starting point is 00:02:18 It was good. I do appreciate when the news outlets take a little time to come up with something punny. Yeah, I like that. It was good from them. Yeah, it's good. Well, you're going to deal with this in the top six. Top six ways to come up with something punny. Yeah, I like that. It's good from them. Yeah, it's good. Well, you're going to deal with this in the top six. Top six ways McDonald's can sneak into Wanaka.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Yeah, good. Really good. Because what the council don't know won't hurt them. Next on the show, some really sad news. An icon, a legend has died. And is it sad or is it just fantastic marketing? I think it's a bit of both. This is so good.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Play ZM's Fleshborn and Hayley. Hola. Bonjour. Konnichiwa. Kia ora. Ni hao. Had no idea you were bi. Yeah, I'm actually trying. There's way more than bi there.
Starting point is 00:03:05 I'm poly. You're polylinguo. I'm poly trying. There's way more than bi there. That's poly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm poly. You're polylinguo. I'm polylinguo. Polylinguo. And do you know how I came that way? Duolingo. The language learning app that Fletch, you've used for many years. Give us a little bit of your Spanish.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Not many years. Many, many years he has slaved away learning the beautiful Spanish language. Do you know, I think I'm still on Dr. Shawnee's family plan. Are you? And I haven't been using it. Oh, my God. He's going to be so upset. Well, people are upset, actually.
Starting point is 00:03:30 The world is upset because Duolingo made an announcement on Twitter, or X, whatever you call it, I don't care. And it was, they changed their logo, which is the owl. It's a bright green owl. That's their sort of mascot for the brand. And suddenly the mascot had X's over its eyes and they released a message saying, it is with heavy hearts that we inform you that Duo,
Starting point is 00:03:56 formerly known as the Duolingo Owl, is dead. Authorities are currently investigating his cause of death and we're cooperating fully. TBH, he probably died waiting for you to do your lesson, but we will never know. We're aware he had many enemies, but we kindly ask that you refrain from sharing why you hate him in the comments.
Starting point is 00:04:12 If you feel inclined to share, please also include your credit card number so we can automatically sign you up for Duolingo Max in his memory. We appreciate you respecting Dua Lipa's privacy at this time because people would always tag her. Anyway, Dua Lipa came out and this time because people would always tag her. Anyway, Dua Lipa came out and then she also did a tweet saying,
Starting point is 00:04:29 till death do apart, broken heart. Good from her. Good from her. And then on Duolingo's TikTok, they uploaded a video of two sort of other mascots crying, carrying a dead corpse in a coffin. It's brilliant. Brilliant marketing from them.
Starting point is 00:04:46 So I guess that they're just rebranding, right? Like they'll be rebranding, getting rid of the owl, but they did a whole, like there's a mascot, like a man in a green owl costume with his arms over in sort of vampire position in a coffin. And the quote says, guys, duo died, BT dub, I'm deaf, so I hope this is a sad song. It's so good. Why have they got rid of the...
Starting point is 00:05:12 I don't know. People are like, well, maybe they're just bringing him back. Because I always wondered why it was an owl. It's because owls are wise? Yeah, maybe. Animal tropes going? I don't know. I think this is a full sort of marketing scheme to follow.
Starting point is 00:05:27 The memes that have come out are so brilliant. So funny. It's great marketing because everybody's talking about it. They've obviously got their marketing person obviously has a great sense of humour because then they did a sort of in memoriam, you know, black and white as you would
Starting point is 00:05:41 the front of a funeral pamphlet and the font they've chosen is papyrus and I just think that that's funny. Do you know what I mean? It's just really great. In lieu of flowers, please do a Duolingo lesson. It's really great. They're not being ashamed about asking for your money either, which I quite like from brands. When they're not trying to bullshit you, like, come and get a free week and do it. And in memory of the owl, you can all have a free week or whatever.
Starting point is 00:06:12 It isn't as good as come and pay us money. Give us a credit card detail. Give us your money. That's how a business works. Well, watch this space. Is the owl really dead? Are they going to replace it with something else? The thing that I like the most is how much the internet is like blowing up over this.
Starting point is 00:06:29 So good. Over a cartoon owl. Every single news site, every like pop culture site is just all about this. Play ZM's Flesh, Vaughn and Hayley. A recruiter has come out with some well used phrases that she says you've got to change up. So this is for the person who is interviewing, like I'm giving the job. No, this is for the person answering. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Like if I'm coming to you for a job. Yeah. And you're asking me questions. You will one day. And I say something like, I'm excellent at networking. Right. Is that good or bad? Because I hate networking.
Starting point is 00:07:08 It's the absolute pits. I hate talking to people that I wouldn't talk to if it wasn't. I'm really good at it. I hate it. Well, so apparently this phrase might sound like a great opinion for a role that requires making good connections, but it also risks sounding arrogant, according to...
Starting point is 00:07:27 I thought it might, the risk of it might sound like they just love getting on the piss. Oh, yeah, that's true. Like, you might have a, I love networking. I love going... And it's like, getting a woo.
Starting point is 00:07:37 How many paid a while? So it's a new guy in hand. Yeah. She recommends being more specific, saying something like, I successfully establish and nurture business relationships. If you said that to me, I'd be like, you've used AI. Yeah, I was like, I successfully establish and nurture business relationships. If you said that to me, I'd be like, you've used AI.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Yeah, I was like, you've AI'd it. Another one is, I'm versatile. That's versatile. You shouldn't say, I'm versatile because you sound like a garage. No. She just says it's quite vague. It is very vague. You should say something like, I adapt to new situations fast and like change.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Yeah, that's a way better sentence. Still got a little bit tinge of AI. Another one, people quite often say in a job interview, I'm good with technology. She says, it's 2025. Everybody has to be. It's surprising if you're not. We can all literally make movies.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Exactly. So she recommends saying something like, I like to use the newest technology to increase my productivity. Okay. I'm sort of hearing this. Yeah, be specific. Yeah. I pay close attention to detail is another thing people say in job interviews all the time.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Yeah. What do you say instead? She says, I carefully review my work to make sure it's accurate and of high quality. That's Shift F7. It took too long. I was thinking about the other day that the original, kids will never know the original AI, which was highlight word, Shift F7, thesaurus it, find a replacement to make it look different. They'll never know.
Starting point is 00:08:58 They'll never know that. Copy it from the internet. I was slightly younger, which was copy it from Wikipedia. Yep. And then use the thesaurus. Shift F7. Shift F7. Which made it look even more obvious.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I'm using ginormous words. Another thing people say in job interviews all the time, I work with a strong ethic. She says, it's better to say I manage my time well. It's better to say I work with a strong ethnic. And then bring out your massive brown friend. A huge jacked
Starting point is 00:09:28 Polynesian guy. I will not go anywhere without my strong ethnic. Again, she says be more specific. Something like I manage my time well and take care of a variety of obligations. Be more specific. I don't go anywhere without my specific island friend. Another thing.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Be more specific. Fiji, Tonga, I'm not sure. Another thing people say all the time in job interviews, I have perfect time management. Well, that's not true. That's unrealistic. Well, what do you say instead? I have efficiently guided teams to accomplish project objectives.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Oh, shut up. No one talks like this. I have proficiently objected by my time. I think however you say these things, the key is be more specific. Yeah, don't just say, I'm good with people. I'm good with technology. I'm good
Starting point is 00:10:18 with time management. Yeah, because everybody like Googles before a job interview what are some things to say? And these are kind of what she's always hearing. Isn't the thing they say, the question that always stumps everyone is like, what would you say is your greatest weakness? And then you're like, oh, how do you reveal a weakness without being like. I care too much.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I care too much. Probably like binge drinking. Play. ZM. Fletch said before Wanaka has told McDonald's to burger off Other headlines
Starting point is 00:10:57 Da da da da da Not loving it The shoving it That's from the press That's probably the weakest one The Shove-in-It Well someone already used a good one Yeah
Starting point is 00:11:10 Yeah yeah yeah They had to come up with something else Do you reckon they do? Do you reckon newspapers are like Quick I'd write the headline And get it up Before I'd even written
Starting point is 00:11:16 The body of the Get it up Headline Breaking news Breaking news And then story to come Yeah yeah yeah Story to come
Starting point is 00:11:22 McDonald's is Told to burger off Story to come Yeah Fr, yeah, yeah. Story to come. McDonald's is told to burger off. Story to come. Frantically write a story full of spelling mistakes. The locals have been finding this for a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:32 And so, yeah, it's not happening. Well, they're lost. Yeah. God, I love a nuggy. Do you know, I just, under this
Starting point is 00:11:40 Googling Wanaka McDonald's for the headlines, there's a McDonald's story. What is the smallest town to haveaka McDonald's for the headlines. There's a McDonald's story. What is the smallest town to have a McDonald's? Garrison, Minnesota is the smallest city to have a McDonald's. Population of 210 people. That's got to be by a motorway though.
Starting point is 00:11:56 That has to all be there the entire time. If you live here, every meal is McDonald's. That's the deal. It's got to be on some kind of junction or freeway or 100% truck stop. I wonder if this will spell an end to the trailer wars of Wanaka. Have you seen the trailers? Somebody parked it up, like it's McDonald's with a cross on it, and next being like, we love McDonald's,
Starting point is 00:12:16 like people just park their trailers with homemade billboards on it. Anywho, I've got the top six ways McDonald's can still sneak into Wanaka. Okay, today's top six. Number six on the list six ways McDonald's can still sneak into Wanaka. Number six on the list. Hold a clown convention and Ronald just never leaves. Sort of an asylum of sorts. Well, and just has like a trestle table of Big Macs. Start small, build up. He's done it once, he can do it again. Yeah, good idea.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Hey, does anyone want any burgers? That was really good. Thanks. Was it? Yeah, that's what he sounds like. A little bit creepy. Do we have a... I thought he was a, I guess we must remember every time we're in the car.
Starting point is 00:12:51 No, he's more like, he's more like this. For sure. What? Yeah, he's like, do you want to eat my burgers? I don't think he is. I'm sure he is.
Starting point is 00:13:01 I will agree to disagree, Vaughn. I'm just saying, you know. Yeah. He gives off that energy. I'm running McDonald's. That's nightmare to disagree, Vaughan. I'm just saying, you know. Yeah. He gives off that energy. I'm running McDonald's. That's nightmare fuel is what you're doing. Why? Number five on the list of the top six ways
Starting point is 00:13:12 McDonald's can sneak into Wanaka. McDonald's? We're not McDonald's. We're Irish hot dog outlet O'Donald's. O'Donald's. O'Donald's. Oh. Wank, wank, nudge, nudge.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Do you want a nugget? While you're here? No, we don't do nuggets We do Wink wink Chicken bits Yeah yeah yeah Chicken bits
Starting point is 00:13:30 Chicken bits With Chinese sauce Ah delicious Chinese sauce Number four on the list Of the top six ways McDonald's can sneak Into Wanaka
Starting point is 00:13:37 The historic Kadrona Hotel Just got a drive through And McFlurry's An inch by inch Every day The golden arch Has just become
Starting point is 00:13:44 More and more obvious. Yes, great. You know, like they say, a frog in a pot and you slowly boil it. Yeah. They don't know. It just sort of starts coming out of the pot. Yeah. A little bit, a little bit, a little bit.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Then before you know it, oh, yeah. They won't even know. Number three on the list of the top six ways McDonald's can sneak into Wanaka. Cromwell. You're up. They'll drive to get it. Yeah. How far is that drive? Chuckaka. Cromwell. You're up. They'll drive to get it. Yeah. How far is that drive?
Starting point is 00:14:07 Chuck it in Cromie. Like 50 minutes. Yeah. It'll be worth it. Go over the hill to Queenstown. Yeah. Or the hill though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Yeah, the hill. It's flatter on the way to Cromwell, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Better, more fuel efficient way to get your backies. Number two on the list of the top six ways McDonald's can still sneak into Wanaka. We've got to make McDonald's the hero that everyone loves. Let's say the Wanaka tree
Starting point is 00:14:28 has a disease and it's going to die. It's going to die and they're going to lose the neat pictures. Well, who has the cure? It is this large purple scientist who has the answer. What's his name? It's Grimace. He administers the vaccine, saves the day, saves the tree. Everyone's like, all is forgiven. Please come.
Starting point is 00:14:44 But he's going to have to go please come but he's gonna have to go in disguise because he's too recognisable he's gonna wear a white lab coat he'll be like oh my name is
Starting point is 00:14:50 nope same voice I don't think he talks yeah and he has to be like I'm Grimace or something like that you know
Starting point is 00:14:55 then he's gonna get cancelled for putting on an accent he's a mere Grimace the scientist the Italian scientist. And number one on the list of the top six ways McDonald's can still sneak into Wanaka. It's simple.
Starting point is 00:15:14 McDonald's just needs to be an American billionaire who builds an underground end of world bunker. Yes. And that until end time also sells nuggies on the side. Okay. Because you know that Wanaka will bend over backwards for those billionaires. Yeah, they will. They need them to survive. Here's a trillion dollars.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Let me do whatever I want. Yes, sir. Wanaka, the home, the cut home to billionaires. No, I think they also hate the billionaires more. Yeah, I think I'd rather they weren't here, to be honest. Disturbing their beautiful place. Let them build their weird underground sex dungeon escape bunkers. That is today's top six. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley. So as of yesterday, the record for the longest Snapchat streak has been beaten for the top spot. Beating Leslie and Zainab it's Katie and Erin in the top spot. Wait, did Leslie and Zainab break their streak? Well, yeah, I imagine
Starting point is 00:16:15 so. So the top people, so the new record is 3,662 days. What? Because I've got a 523 day streak. Who with? Not even close. My daughter. Okay. Not even close. Are you literally in the same
Starting point is 00:16:31 house and she'll send you a streak? Oh, she does it when she wakes up in the morning. It's part of her morning routine to keep all of her streaks. It's a massive thing with the... I honestly thought Snapchat was gonna die. So I was on Reels last night and then a guy was like, hey, you know if your partner's on Snapchat that they're cheating on you, eh?
Starting point is 00:16:53 Because like why else would you have an app with disappearing photos? Disappearing messages and stuff. I'm just saying, there it is. I was like, for me Snapchat was huge like in 2013 because of the filters. It's still been going, yeah. And it's just been going along. The puppy face. The puppy face.
Starting point is 00:17:08 There. Yeah. And now it's sneaky messages. But anyway, so yeah, I guess maybe Leslie and Zaina broke their streak because in came Katie and Aaron with 3,662 days and counting. I also love that there's charts. I've got the top 20 Snapchat streakers. Because how long is that?
Starting point is 00:17:28 Is that 10 years? Yeah, 2015, which is when they started counting the streaks. That's crazy. So these people have just been every single day. For me, I'm like, if I'm trying to get on this chart, then it's anxiety.
Starting point is 00:17:41 It's like, oh God, I didn't go on my app today and I've got to do this. That's what the, totally, they get freaked out about their streaks and if their streaks are going to end. Yeah. But I'll get a message and it'll be like, dad, a streak! So what has to happen for the streak
Starting point is 00:17:56 to continue? Send each other a photo. Not just a message. Yeah. You have to send a photo. Because didn't she go on camp and she wasn't going to have her phone, so you had to do her streaks So somebody else Took care of her streaks Yeah
Starting point is 00:18:07 And that's what She's like the one Everybody turns to When If they go away Yeah people do this Like some of her friends Went off grid with their family
Starting point is 00:18:15 And they said to Indy Please take care of my streaks And she's like You have my word So they log in To each other's accounts Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:18:21 Oh my god For what For the streaks For the streaks. For the streaks. To go in, take one photo, write an S on it and then send it
Starting point is 00:18:29 to everybody in there. Write an S on it? For streak. So there's no purpose to it. You're like, it's just a photo of somebody.
Starting point is 00:18:36 No, exactly. So you could just go like that, it doesn't matter. Just put an S on it and then someone, then you're not offended by a shitty photo
Starting point is 00:18:42 because you know that person's only sending it for the streaks. But sometimes do you send something worthwhile? I always bang a different filter on it because there's always a different filter at the start. That's actually a hot little filter on it. But for you to do this for 10 years, that's like...
Starting point is 00:18:57 Stressful. It's so stressful. Every single day. My thing is, have you left time zones? Because sometimes we lose a day. I wonder about time zones. Well, we're so far away. You know, when we want to go big travelling, we do leave time zones.
Starting point is 00:19:12 But if you come back from America, you could miss a whole entire day. You could miss a day. And so that would affect your streak. So then what are you doing? Can you schedule a streak? Well, you'd probably ask the pilot to divert to Honolulu or something. Pop down, land somewhere. Yeah, land somewhere.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Do you mind just touching down in Dubai? We've just got a strike. Yeah, I just. Please, knocking on the cockpit door. Please, please. This is an emergency. My strength is about to expire. ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Silly little po. Silly little po. It is so silly little pole, silly little pole. It is so silly, silly, silly that the silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole. Today's silly little pole. Colourpenny are using fools. So yesterday during fact of the day
Starting point is 00:20:06 we got a little distracted. We got distracted by those pens that had the four colours in them. You said EpiPen, I said four colour pen, both great pens. A little bit of a sidetrack there. Someone told us there's now a four colour pencil that's black, blue, red and mechanical
Starting point is 00:20:23 pencil. Because we were giving green a right old roaster. Oh, we were giving green assholes. And apparently those greens used by pharmacists. Pharmacists. A few other people said they use green in their profession. So we, today for SoliloPo, you can only pick one pen colour. What is it? Blue, black, red or green?
Starting point is 00:20:41 You know what? Results, yeah. Green hasn't done the worst. It's red at 1%. What? Red at 1%. What? Red at 1%. Interesting. Because I suppose if you're only giving it one colour, it's not red.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Would you write a Valentine's Day card in red? Yeah, because of the colour of love. Because of the colour of love. Or blood. Or blood. I would write a note and be like, I wrote this with my own blood. Because I love you so much. My heart bleeds for you.
Starting point is 00:21:03 My heart bleeds for you. Green got 3%. Okay. Here's perhaps one of the most controversial Cilindral poll results. Black at second place. What? 39%.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Blue, 57%. Wow, okay. They were all a blue pen. It's so weird that we write in blue. I mean, I don't... On the computer, it's black. Yeah, I wouldn't mind. Why is computer font never in blue? I mean, I don't... On the computer, it's black. Yeah, I wouldn't mind. Why is computer font never in blue?
Starting point is 00:21:27 I mean, I know you can make it blue, but the default's black. Yeah. Good call. Don't know, but all my quills and stuff, when you see really old, you know... They were black? They were always... Indian ink is blue. I wonder if it goes back to that.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Indian ink is blue. I'm really looking into this. This could be a good deep dive. Bit of a hyper fixation for you. Get in on that. Could be. For the day. Why is it? Could be. When did we move from black, you know, from quills and such to blue? Look me in the eye please, Hayley. Black generally
Starting point is 00:21:58 says Alexandra. Greeting cards have black writing in them so you've got to use black to match. Oh yeah, I hate that. I hate that. I hate that. I hate when you use a blue in a Christmas card or a birthday card, but it's got to be the same. And it's got half season's greetings
Starting point is 00:22:10 in the card in black. See, they put it in black. If they put it in blue, you'd be like, the hell? Alexandra Rose's a great point. Something I've never thought about, but yeah, it does look a bit... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:18 It looks a bit queer, doesn't it? Actually, it's a bit awfully queer. A bit of queer. Very queer. Ali says, black pen is elite and goes with anything. Yeah. Neve says, I picked green because you guys were hating on it and I felt like green was, you were being really, really mean to green.
Starting point is 00:22:35 So now I'm actually searching out a green pen to use primarily. You're being mean to green. Yeah. I love green. It's my favourite colour. It's not my favourite colour, pen ink. And also they've swayed the results by voting green. Yeah, they voted green. It's my favourite colour. It's not my favourite colour, pen ink. And also they've swayed the results by voting green. Yeah, they voted green.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Blue, but definitely a thin bit is the best. So Tishan, we're not talking about types of pens. Join us on another day. We're talking about colour of ink. Tip wits. Because I love a thick tip. We like a thick tip. Green for pharmacy. Can't live without it, says Catherine a thick tip. Yeah, a thick tip. A thick tip. Green for pharmacy.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Can't live without it, says Catherine. There's one of our pharmacist listeners. Caitlin says, black is too aggressive for everyday use. That's why I voted blue. Really? Aggressive. I've never thought a black pen is aggressive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:18 I mean, a black vivid or sharpie, aggressive. Oh, exactly. Oh, red. Red is more aggressive than black. Because red's an aggressive ink. Yeah. I'm a nurse. I prefer black for my charts and blue for my notes.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Unsure why, but that's how I roll, says Victoria. Interesting. I wouldn't argue with a nurse. Yeah. Neither. Courtney says, blue is elite. My handwriting looks better in blue. Blue for life.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Oh, okay. Blue for life. Blue for life. That's a commitment. She's a lifelong bluer. Yeah. Red's too harsh. Green's too playful.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Black's too depressing and scrawly. Blue just fits better with the handwriting. Okay. All right. I like printed things in black, but I like my handwriting blue, says Kayla. And finally, Kate. My dad only signs his name in blue to stop people photocopying it. I don't know if he's alone in this paranoid thought,
Starting point is 00:24:07 but blue is hard to photocopy, black very easy to photocopy. You can tell something is photocopied. Yeah, dad also didn't want to get one of the new driver's licence back in the day with his photo in it because they were scanning his eye retinas for the government database. There is something. Historically, blue ink was used to differentiate
Starting point is 00:24:23 original documents from copies. We're making carbon copies. Oh yeah. The blue was the original and the carbon would have been black. I always remember blue carbon being blue. Those sheets that you slid between the thing when you were doing something. Intriplicate.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Interesting. I think this needs further investigation. It will be. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. So, you would have seen that the Super Bowl was on Monday our time and huge, it was amazing.
Starting point is 00:24:56 The game has just gone crazy. Great wrap up. Hayley, no one cares about the game. I mean, People in America do I literally watched the halftime show And that was it It's all for the halftime show
Starting point is 00:25:08 And the ads Yeah Or To see Taylor Swift In the crowd So they started dating Her and Travis Kelsey
Starting point is 00:25:16 Started dating in 2023 Yep And Then she started Like it was kind of secret For a while And then she started Attending the games
Starting point is 00:25:24 And everyone would be like What's she wearing And like who's she sitting with And sometimes it was kind of secret for a while. And then she started attending the games. And everyone would be like, what's she wearing? And, like, who's she sitting with? And sometimes it was Blake Lively and da-da-da-da-da. And so everyone was sort of, like, eyes on her for the Super Bowl where Travis Kelsey's team was playing. And then at halftime, they had nothing on the board. So they were losing.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Yeah. And eventually lost. And they were doing that thing where they sort of pan on the board. So they were losing. And eventually lost. And they were doing that thing where they sort of pan around the stadium and at one point they went on Taylor Swift's face and the audience booed. I feel like it would have been the opposition team more than
Starting point is 00:25:55 anything, right? No, no, no. It was real football fans that paid a fortune to go and see the football and she's a distraction from the game they love, which is dragged in all of these, what they would call fake football fans. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:11 And she's making the game about her. Well, she's not doing it on purpose, but through her own celebrity. And now all these Swifties are suddenly like, we love football. And they're like, get out of here. That's Carwen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's Carwen.
Starting point is 00:26:23 You've got a Kansas City Chiefs jersey now, don't you? Okay, one, no, I don't. But also, I will not take the slander. I love the Super Bowl. I sit down and watch it every year. This year was hard. Really? Did you watch it previously to 2023?
Starting point is 00:26:35 Fully. I've watched it the last, like, five years. I used to watch it with my mum. It's so fun. I'll take the slander. I never watched it before, Taylor, and now I'm all about it. Yeah, there you go. Thank you, Shannon. For being honest, we appreciate we appreciate that yeah and then i lost all the money because i
Starting point is 00:26:49 think she lost money because she put a bit on the boyfriend that's right well i know i get this thing that they're like you're not a real fan you know it's like people uh at a my chemical romance concert and you're like you only like the black Black Parade. We've been here since day one. Well, it's like any concert, yeah, if someone's there for a one hit song that was on the radio, but you like all the albums. Yeah, fake fans. The NFL fans should be thanking her. They should, because
Starting point is 00:27:15 yes, there's more attention on the NFL than ever before, but there is more money. So since Taylor Swift has been publicly dating Travis Kelsey, she has been publicly dating Travis Kelsey, she has raised, well, not raised, but brought in the equivalent of $1 billion into the NFL in, like, advertising, basically. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:35 So the fact that there's more attention on the NFL has boosted viewership, has boosted the amount of people that are, like, investing in it. The news stories that come from that and the advertising on that. And then advertisers are like, well, all eyes are on NFL. We're going to do this. Also, like all the social media platforms, like the NFL social media, all of the players' social media,
Starting point is 00:27:58 they've gone up millions and millions and millions of views. So they're getting more revenue. To the tune of, in American dollars, $992 million. So nearly a billion dollars. That's insane. Since she's been hanging around. I mean, say what you will, do you know what I mean? Like that's
Starting point is 00:28:15 money talks. Money talks, bullshit walks. Join me for more motivational stuff soon. That sucked, that didn't feel motivational. Win the morning, win the day, vibe attract your tribe. We need to get a ginormous pop star to date like an all black and then bring in a ton of money to New Zealand and the New Zealand Rugby Union and that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Yeah, Shakira. Shakira. She left her husband, didn't she? Because he cheated on her. Also, side note, may I? Who would cheat on Shakira. Shakira. She left her husband, didn't she? Because he cheated on her. Also, side note, may I? Who would cheat on Shakira? Who do you think you are to cheat on Shakira? Her breasts are small and humble,
Starting point is 00:28:53 so you don't confuse them with mountains. That's the perfect breast. She's got strong legs like her mother. That's right. So she can run for cover. Wait a minute, is that Missy Elliott who run for cover? Run for cover. Yeah, she certainly did run for cover.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Yeah, she did run for cover. Anyway, I mean, say what you will about it, but that's a lot of money. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. Now, is today the day that Shannon gets five stars max for Shannon's hacks? Yes. It's a segment where producer Shannon comes on the show
Starting point is 00:29:23 and pitches us a hack. So what happened was last year we thought, let's give her a go. And it's been an abysmal sort of failure ever since. I think the most we've had was three stars for putting pads on my feet in the gym shower. Something I now do every day. That was if you had forgot your jandals. If you forgot your jandals for the gym shower. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:45 What is the nature of this hack today, Shannon? A travel hack to help you. Great. Ooh, Fletch is going to be judging this harshly. You know I love my travel hacks. Perfect. Well. Yeah, the fishing vest day. That was such a good one. The fishing vest with all that. All the pockets. Little pockets
Starting point is 00:30:01 and stuff. That's genius. Let's see Jetstar weigh that one. Yeah. People get real upset when you get a sore ear when you're taking off or landing. Oh, I hate that. Do you know who really does? Babies. Babies. That's why that's the whole reason behind the Air New Zealand
Starting point is 00:30:23 lollies, isn't it? Yes. Don't put one in your baby's mouth. And chewing gum to kind of, you know, pop your ears for landing. But as you said, the worst part is when the babies start crying. I know, poor things. And even if you're not babied yourself, it affects you. I'm not babied. There's a word for people who are babied, parents.
Starting point is 00:30:41 I like babied better. If you're a parent or not a parent yourself. Or you don't have it. So this is for anyone that's on a plane, thisied. Parents. I like babied better. If you're a parent or not a parent yourself. Or you don't have it. So this is for anyone that's on a plane, this hack. Okay. Exactly. Basically, I've found on TikTok someone called The Air Nurse. Trustworthy, right?
Starting point is 00:30:57 Oh, no, hang on. Because you, just the other day, you had a fact from a doctor who turned out to be a naturopath. She was banned as well from the medical journal. Who told you to cure cancer with baking soda. Yeah, not my finest moment, but I trust the air nurse. Okay. So she has said you ask your wonderful flight attendants for two cups and two warm paper towels. Well, they're clearing the cabin and preparing.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I don't know if you hear the bing bong. Flight attendants prepare the cabin for landing. Yeah, that's what they're doing. They don't have time to get you two cups and a couple of towels. How are they heating up these paper towels? That's all they're doing. Are they wet? Yeah, like steamed.
Starting point is 00:31:34 They don't have the time or the resources to steam a couple of paper towels for every Tom, Dick and Harry. All I'm imagining is, you know, the Asian steamers, the bamboo steamers? Yeah. They've got those in the back over a jug. Yeah, the Asian steamers, the bamboo steamers? Yeah. But they've got those in the back over a jug. Yeah. If you could ask for the dumpling steamer, I think that would be good. Okay. But the hack is, and this has come from a nurse,
Starting point is 00:31:53 you put a paper towel... Put the nurse on... TikTok. Thank you. Yeah. You put a paper towel in each cup and hold it over your ears. Imagine big headphones. Wait, so the cup is between the ear and the cup. The towel. Paper towels in the Wait, so the cup is between the ear and the cup? The towel. Paper towels in the cup.
Starting point is 00:32:08 In the cup. Like screwed up? Yes. Okay. Then over the ear. And then over the ear. Imagine an over-ear headphone and hold it there. What does it do?
Starting point is 00:32:17 Fix it. Wait, so hang on. You haven't actually worked out the medical... It says the steam releases the pressure. You're steaming your earache away. Do you know what? I think this would feel nice regardless. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:32 And so imagine on a little baby, just headphone them up with some cups. I don't know about that. I don't know. I'm born, you've had a baby. You've had two. Are you babied? I am babied. I'm dual babied.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Thank you. Dual babied. Not babies anymore. Do you just put steaming hot towels in a cup up to babies' ears? Babies don't even like wearing hats. No, but you hold them. They're crashing its head around. You've got two people holding glasses. They have a choice.
Starting point is 00:33:00 They chose to cry. I'm choosing to shut them up. Okay, then we've got two texts from two separate flight attendants. Here we go. Please don't ask. I haven't seen them but it's something along the lines of please don't give passengers any more ideas about what they should be entitled to.
Starting point is 00:33:15 The first one says every flight attendant right now is like and then they've changed their text to all caps F-ing hell no. And then the second text is this hack is correct. That's what their text to all caps F-ing hell no. And then the second text is this hack is correct. That's what we used to do as a flight attendant. The steam
Starting point is 00:33:31 releases the pressure. Maybe not on a baby, but it does work. Okay. But could you just do that when you get home? Yes, I've seen this on a plane and the kids stop crying. But how we get, my question is how we get in these hot paper towels. Maybe if you're flying bougie, don't they give you a towel? So this only works for business class?
Starting point is 00:33:49 I am narrowing who the hack works for. At the start. Yes. Don't you get the hot towel at the start? What if you sat on it? What if you sat on it? It cools because then you're going to have wet pants and a cool towel. Yeah, you're only getting the hot towel as soon as you board the plane.
Starting point is 00:34:00 My ears aren't going crazy then. They're going crazy when we land it. Yeah. Okay, well, if we find a way to heat... I got it. Go to the bathroom and then turn the tap to hot and then wet thing. Doesn't really go hot, though. Doesn't go hot enough. They go lukewarm to avoid
Starting point is 00:34:13 getting burnt. Yeah. Okay. Maybe bring on a dumpling steamer next time you fly. I don't know if you can bring on a dumpling steamer. It's getting too many points of... It's getting a bit silly now. Too many steps now. We've really got a mixed response to this one. It does work. A lot of ex-flight attendants saying this really does work.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Well, yes, but it's impractical. It is impractical. And it's just not possible. What about when they ask you for a cup of tea? But again, that's early on in the flight. It's too early. I'm going to give this a two. It's not your worst.
Starting point is 00:34:44 It's a 2.5. Okay, you're giving it 2.5 stars. I'm giving it two this a two. It's not your worst. It's a 2.5. Okay, you're giving it 2.5 stars. I'm giving it two. Vaughn? Yeah, just to the inconvenience of flight attendants having to do this en masse. Carwen, you wanted to chime in? It would be like two to absolute max. I just thought, what if you get two cups of hot water instead of like a tea,
Starting point is 00:35:02 drink the hot water real fast, pop it on your ears. Yes, Carwen. But it's too early in the flight. The ears don't hurt at that point. But this is the thing, you're getting this on landing. You don't drink the hot water until it's deli time. But then it's cold. You put it in a Stanley in a thermos. Somebody said take a thermos. But I don't think you're allowed
Starting point is 00:35:18 to take a thermos on a plane. No, you can't. Why not? Can you not take a thermos? Yes, you can. Domestic. A pressurised thermos full of boiling water that you could throw in the face of the pilot and take down your A320s. I don't think you will get it out. I can't even bring my bloody monobrow tweezers on,
Starting point is 00:35:32 let alone a violent weapon like a hot thermos. I've told you, why don't you just sort the monobrow out before your two-day weekend? Like, why do you have to take your monobrow? He does tell me all the time. He's like, what are we doing about this, house? What are we doing about that?
Starting point is 00:35:45 And then you forget, and then it's not until you're about to get on the plane that you remember. No, it's not eyebrows, it's eyebrows. Okay, so what are we giving that two points? That's two. I will say a lot of people have come in saying you can do this with a few essential oils instead of the hot water, and it does also work.
Starting point is 00:35:59 But that wasn't your hack, Shannon. It wasn't your hack. Yours was to inconvenience everybody. Everybody on the flight deck. Yeah, no, it's a two. I'll take two. That's a two. 2.2 wasn't your hack. Yours was to inconvenience. Everybody. Everybody on the flight deck. Yeah, no, it's... I'll take two. It's a two. 2.2.
Starting point is 00:36:09 2.2. 2.2. Thanks, guys. 2.2. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley. This is so great. There's a woman named Lulu. She had an experience online.
Starting point is 00:36:18 She had a new roommate at university. And she was like, do you know what I'm going to do to welcome you into our... What are they? Like a dorm, I guess. Yeah. I i'm gonna make you a nice cup of tea and then um the girl receiving the cup of tea was like that's so nice thank you so much and she drinks it and she's like and you see on her face that something is very off with this cup of tea and you're thinking to yourself maybe she's more of an earl than an English breakfast. Sure. Not the problem. What she thought was a tea bag was actually
Starting point is 00:36:47 a small bath bomb. So a soapy bath bomb. Do they do them in bags? They do them in these little sachets that look like a single serve tea. They were the OG bath bombs, those things. Fragranced sachets. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Because some of the bougie tea bags look like that now. You know, like the posh things. Yeah. Fragranced, like, sachets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because some of the, even some of the bougie tea bags look like that now. You know, like the posh ones. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they're very posh. Very posh. You have a cup of posh tea, do you, mate? Well, it must be nice over here, the 1%.
Starting point is 00:37:15 No, I've just got. I'm grabbing it in our face. I've just got bell black tea. Yeah, I've just got green tea bags that are just bags. Yeah, I use cheap tea. Yeah. All the time. I'm not going fancy with your single packages.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Teas for people who are like, coffee? Oh, no, thanks. I'm a bitch. Oh, boy. Remember when we went through that phase? It's true. Where you would make us a cup of tea? Remember we went through a little phase last year?
Starting point is 00:37:37 We had a little cup of tea. Oh, how did we make you a cup of tea? No, you just said that you don't drink tea. No, but I'll make you a cup of tea. Like, what am I, now I'm having tea? Yeah, I'll call you a little bitch once I give it to you. Yeah. So the funny bit is that you don't drink tea. No, but I'll make you a cup of tea. Like, what am I, now I'm going to have a tea? Yeah, I'll call you a little bit once I give it to you. Yeah. So the funny bit is that the girl consuming the tea
Starting point is 00:37:48 is like trying to play it cool. I think she just thinks she's had a horrible cup of tea. Oh, no. Until in the end, the girl's like, oh, my God, I know what I've done. It's a bath bomb. Anyway, easy. And that girl just gelled it.
Starting point is 00:38:00 There's like that time I accidentally made lemon meringue pie with salt instead of sugar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And my dad was just like, oh, it tastes I accidentally made lemon meringue pie with salt instead of sugar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And my dad was just like, oh, it tastes different to other lemon meringue pie and sat there and ate it. And then I tasted it. I was like, dad, how did you eat this? He's like, well, it wasn't nice, but I wasn't letting it go to waste.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Oh, dad. Well, this is the thing. It also reminds me of when you used to go into Lush and they had those soap bars that looked like white chocolate. Oh, my God, the whole thing just looks like a fudge store. And your mouth was always like, maybe just this one is fudge. If you didn't have a
Starting point is 00:38:31 way to find out. If you didn't have a sense of smell, Lush would look like a weird candy shop. Like a kid made candy and then sold it in a shop. Like if you've been into Remarkable Sweet Shop in Queenstown. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Oh my God. You just go like lush, as in lush food. Yeah. Anyway, this is what we want to know this morning. What did you accidentally consume? And what I love about this is like she didn't know. It wasn't like she was like, I'm going to try this. Is it funky?
Starting point is 00:38:58 She just accidentally made this awful cup of tea for her friend. Which was a bath bomb. Which was a bath bomb and she drank it. So that's friendship. But what did you accidentally consume? I love that. People with the eyesight, with bad eyesight,
Starting point is 00:39:13 mix up things like this all the time. Oh yeah, totally. Oh, what was... Madeline Sami did this on set and she thought it was like a little water thing and she went to spritz her mouth. It was a really dry mouth and it was 100% alcohol,
Starting point is 00:39:29 you know, to clean makeup. Yeah, clean it. To clean makeup brushes. And was like, no, no, no. Okay, 0800DARLS at Amazon number. Call us now. I text through 9696. What did you accidentally eat or drink?
Starting point is 00:39:41 I just opened up the text machine and the first one I read was my husband accidentally drank antifreeze. I'm like, how are we doing that? How are you still alive? How is he still alive? He might not be. Actually, there's no confirmation he is alive.
Starting point is 00:39:53 But I feel like you wouldn't text into a radio station and be like, whoa, my husband drank this and died. Unless it was a good insurance policy. We want to know what you accidentally. And then, yeah, he drank it. Yeah. Yeah, he drank it accidentally. We want to know what you accidentally And then yeah, he drank it. Yeah, he drank it accidentally. We want to know what you accidentally consumed.
Starting point is 00:40:08 There was a woman who made her friend a cup of tea but it wasn't a tea bag, it was in fact a bath bomb. And the friend didn't want to say anything, so she just drank it. It would have been very soapy. It would have been so soapy. Quinton, you've done this exact thing with a cup of tea? Oh yeah, very
Starting point is 00:40:23 similar mate. Cup of tea, early morning, quite tired, just mix it up until half in the dark. And as I was drinking it, I felt little bits sort of go past my lips, and I thought, oh, fuck, that's a bit odd. Was it? You know, sometimes the teabag gets a rip and you get the little leaves.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Yeah. Exactly, right? So I sort of just went by and thought, no, no, it's probably just some tea just ripped out the bag. But then as I turned on the light line had a look in my cup. I was there was just ants floating You know why though I had a look in my sugar bowl was in So you'd spoon the answer
Starting point is 00:41:05 Sugar I think you can say no I turn the now I don't have sugar with my tea anymore after that. Good way to wean off of sugar. I thought you were going to say, now I turn the light on when I put sugar in my tea. That would be a good idea too. Brilliant. Quentin, thank you. Rachel, what did you accidentally consume? Petrol. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:41:21 You weren't doing that siphoning thing? Yeah, that's how you know the petrol's coming. No, it was the pump water bottles that you normally have watering. Yeah. Yeah. I picked one of those up and took a mouthful, and as I drank it, my brain was like, fuck, that's not water. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:41:39 That's not water. Yeah. Wow. Why was there petrol in a pump bottle? The funny thing was it was beside the fire. We had an inside wood burner.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Sarah was using petrol to start the wood burner. Everything about this is wrong. Everything about this is wrong. It's wrong on so many levels. Rachel, you can buy fire starters. Little safe petrol is very dangerous to start fires with. Rachel, you can buy fire starters. Yeah. Little safe petrols.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Very dangerous to start fires with. It wasn't me using it. If my mother had been there, I would have understood because she always uses bloody petrol to start fires. Inside the house, she uses petrol to start fires. Well, she used to. She's dead now. She burned herself alive.
Starting point is 00:42:24 She burned her house down and she was still in it. We're lucky to have Rachel on the phone. This is wild, Rachel. Wait, how much of a swig of this petrol did you consume? Literally just a mouthful. And I was so crook. Yeah, a couple of days
Starting point is 00:42:39 before I... What does it taste like? Was it 91 or 95? Yeah. I wouldn't know. It tasted like shit. Okay, probably 91 then. Yeah. It doesn't have the good stuff in it. Nah, 95 tastes better.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Yeah, if you had it gone 95, it would have been delicious. Rachel, thank you. Oh my God. My mum is known for this. She once ate sunscreen off a van floor thinking it was ice cream. Who's eating ice cream off a van floor?
Starting point is 00:43:02 I'm sorry, but no, no. The five second rule, no rule applies to ice cream on the floor. Who are these? Who are our listeners? And the same mother ate a piece of fire lighter that she thought was icing that had just fallen off a cake,
Starting point is 00:43:14 but it was a little bit of... Oh, okay. I might do that. How yum's icing? Icing's yum, but... Again, I'm not eating it off the floor. It's good to know they're using fire lighter and not petrol. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:43:26 actually. Yeah. Also, how bad are our listeners at starting fires? Please don't. Good dry kindling. Join us tomorrow as we talk through the very simple act of lighting a safe fire. Especially indoors. Yes. Indoors. My mum used to put stuff in
Starting point is 00:43:42 milk bottles and put them back in the fridge. The worst thing I've drunk in that situation was cooking oil. Oh. Thinking it was juice. You don't put cooking oil in the fridge. No. Cooking oil belongs in the pantry. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:43:53 I also drank breast milk that way. That I can understand. Yeah. You're putting milk back in the milk container once it left the other milk container. What colour top would best breast milk be? Because there's already blue, green. No, there's already silver. Gold top.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Gold top, yeah. Gold, it's the good stuff. My kids made little soaps for their great granddad for Christmas. He ate them thinking they were lollies. When I was a tech in the workshop, another tech put carburetor cleaner in my V that I had sitting on my toolbox like a prank. I had a skull without knowing
Starting point is 00:44:24 and I couldn't get rid of the taste for a day and a half, but I got him back. I staple-gunned his ass while he was looking under a glove box. Lads. Lads, lads, lads. Lads. My husband licked something off his arm. My husband licked.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Now, they've had it auto-corrected. They've had it auto-corrected, and it's auto-corrected to bored short. Yeah. Off his arm, thinking it was kiwi onion dip. Oh, bird poo. Bird shit. Yeah. Bird shit.
Starting point is 00:44:52 And as he licked it, he said, that isn't dip. As he licked it. But also, have you been eating chips in the last half an hour? Like, is there a reason for dip to be on your arm? Has the dip been on the, yeah, exactly. Exactly. Oh, this is dangerous. You should always check this.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Is it the tramadol one? No. Somebody said, my partner will do a thing that if there's only a few pills left on a pill sheet, he'll just slip it in with another sort of pills. I just took four 50 gram microgram Panadols. Is it micrograms? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Yeah. Well, they're 500, aren't they? Pennies. Four 50 gram tramadol because he'd put it back in with the panadols. You don't be mixing up those. Please don't take four panadol at once. No, I was gasping at my husband had a luncheon
Starting point is 00:45:40 sandwich, but it was dog roll. Am I just a cunt? That's right. Those are more or less the same things anyway. I'm so concerned about our listeners. Are we alright? We need to be running visual checks. Yeah, yeah. Have a look. Have a sniff. What are we eating? Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. Now it became abundantly clear to me upon opening the hot water cupboard where of course we keep our board games because where else would you keep them? Where else do you keep them? Ours are in the garage. In a cupboard.
Starting point is 00:46:10 We don't have cupboards in our house. They must stay dry. Right. They've got to be dry. No one wants a wet scatter grease. We keep a lot of things in our hot water cupboard that aren't towels. What's the perfect place to hide things? Because our hallway cupboard is also our hot water cupboard.
Starting point is 00:46:23 It's a bi-cupboard. We're on gas. I don't have one. I feel sorry for you. Yeah, I feel sorry for me. What a wonderful place to put a slightly damp towel back, knowing that the hot water cupboard will take care of the rest. It's going to suss the rest.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Where's your hot water cupboard? In my bathroom. It's hidden, eh? It's hidden, yeah. He's got a secret hot water cupboard. Lux. Yeah. I wonder what else is in there.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Secrets. It's his panic room. And he's panicking mostly because he's in a secret hot water cupboard. Lux. Yeah. I wonder what else is in there. Secrets. It's his panic room. And he's panicking mostly because he's in there and he's just drying out. It's too small. It's very much just like a cupboard of hot. So I opened it up, dragged a towel out, and that's when I also dragged out a couple of little mouse plops. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:47:02 And a mouse. When we first moved into this house house We had a rat infestation Yuck Infestation I would have burned The whole house down The rats Do you not like them
Starting point is 00:47:13 I've been running No I hate rats I've been running A real rat elimination Situation Especially the So you had rats Yeah in the ceiling
Starting point is 00:47:21 Because the rats That you get at your place They're monster rats They're Norwegian ship rats Huge You can tell that you get at your place. They're monster rats. They're Norwegian ship rats. You can tell because when you catch them, they're like. I saw a rat over summer that was like the size of a small cat. Oh, no. And it ran in front of me and I was just like.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Where? In New Zealand or when you're overseas? South America. Tropical rats. They're all rats. So the rats are gone and we haven't had mice. Because I think when you've got rats, they take care of the mice. Do they eat them?
Starting point is 00:47:47 No. I think so. Do you think rats and mice are friends? No. We don't associate with your kind around here. It's like us and big gorillas. All right. It might be the odd situation where there's a harmonious interaction
Starting point is 00:48:00 but most of the time I'd say it's pretty competitive. Yeah. So yesterday I had to drag everything out of the hot water cupboard and the girls are both sick at the moment. So they were sitting in the hallway with a bucket each because I said if the mouse runs out, just plump and then sit on the bucket. It's like the board game.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Mousetrap. Mousetrap. Oh my God. Which is stored in the hot water cupboard as well. And it's nice and dry as a result. It's nice and dry and the box is sturdy and not moist and damp. So then I unloaded everything out of the hot water cupboard. And that was a real eye-opener as to how much linen and stuff we have.
Starting point is 00:48:32 As well as all the other things we kept in the hot water cupboard. Wrapping paper. Perfect place for it. Nice and dry. You know what? Emptied it all. No sign of the mouse. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Where's the mouse? He's in your house. I like to imagine he hitchhiked outside when we were – and I hope it's a he because if it's a she, then it would be my slits. What time was this? Yesterday afternoon. What time?
Starting point is 00:48:54 I don't know, three? Oh, he would have been at work. He was at work. Nine to five. Well, I've got bad news. He's coming home to a house because everything's going to need to be washed and everything's just... He's going to come home and be like, where's all my stuff?
Starting point is 00:49:08 Where's my stuff? Actually quite rude of you. I was going to play the board game with my children tonight. Human trap. Yeah, where the hell's my stuff, man? Oh, no. I don't know where the mouse is. The cupboard's completely cleaned. Everything's kind of outside waiting to be washed. Wait, so you're telling us
Starting point is 00:49:23 this is an ongoing saga? It's an ongoing saga. Oh, my God. Watch this space. But the good thing is I cleaned it out and cleaned up all the mouse poo. So if there's more mouse poo in there today, it's fresh mouse poo. Fresh mouse poo? But I also, you know what?
Starting point is 00:49:34 The best part of the whole thing? What? There was a couple of holes where, like, the pipes go to different parts of the house. Well, that's where he's come in. Well, I thought so. So you know what I got to play with yesterday? Fill a gap stuff. Space Invader.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Yes, I love that stuff Oh I like it so much And I just probably Used a whole can On two small holes Just cause So now I imagine In the ceiling There's just this
Starting point is 00:49:56 Massive bum mountain Massive mushroom cloud Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley 58 times a year Apparently couples Are arguing About
Starting point is 00:50:04 Money So that's More than once a week Yeah Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. 58 times a year, apparently, couples are arguing. About money. So that's more than once a week. Yeah, it is. That's got to be the big one. I mean, you get it, right? It's stressful. And probably, I mean, I don't know, when was this study done? But now more than ever, right?
Starting point is 00:50:18 People are tightening their belts. Yeah, I got home the other day and told myself off for spending too much at the supermarket. Shut up. Did you smack your own bum? Did you smack your own bum? I feel like we could do without you. Do you want to pop off, make a coffee, go to the toilet? Do you need to do anything? I was like, do you need that?
Starting point is 00:50:32 And then what did you say? I said, yes. I was like, okay. And then what did you say? Okay, well, that was an easy argument. I won. I always win the arguments in my house. That's really hard. Because I'm arguing with myself. Do you think as well,
Starting point is 00:50:48 like everything costs so much at the moment, right? So that's stressful. Then there's job losses everywhere. So that's stressful. Less money is coming in. Then we're inundated with social media where we're seeing people with like all the fashion, all the travel, all the things they want. The perfect life.
Starting point is 00:51:03 The perfect life. You don't know behind the scenes that they've ticked that item up. Yeah, and you're sitting there being like, well, why don't I have these things? And maybe that's what I want. And the most common things people argue about in a relationship, sex, money, and children. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Yeah. Like, why did we have them? Why did we have sex? Now we've got these children and they're costing us heaps of money. God, they do feel interlinked. Sex, money and children. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:51:30 So the children, the most fun this is arguing, before they even have children, they'll start fighting about what names. That's not a great start. Yeah. You can discuss. I don't think you should fight about what you want to name your children. How are we going to raise these kids?
Starting point is 00:51:46 Yeah. Kind of something that also should kind of be discussed before you have them, I think. You want to know that the person, you and the person share principles and values. Yeah. Making another human. Yeah. But do you think you would have 50 something arguments about money a year? Yeah, probably. I mean, the scale
Starting point is 00:52:02 of the argument. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe a little bit of, why did you need that? Or like, we've been in a... The scale of the argument. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe a little bit of... A disagreement. Did you need that? Or like, we're in financial trouble. I mean, we've been in an absolute spending frenzy with the house. So the money situation was, I guess, heightened. Definitely. Lots of arguments.
Starting point is 00:52:18 I mean, it's just... You need money for life. It's a... Yeah. Well, let's open up a can of worms. The day, the day before, the day of romance.
Starting point is 00:52:29 The day before Valentine's Day. What is, what is the one, what is the thing that you and your partner are currently arguing about? Oh, yes. Maybe you left work today
Starting point is 00:52:37 and maybe it wasn't resolved last night, this argument, or it's a fresh this morning argument, or it's an argument still going from the weekend that you're holding your ground on. If you call and your partner doesn't,
Starting point is 00:52:47 we'll side with you. We'll just make you feel good. Oh, we're on your team. We're on your team. If you call, we're on your team. If you call or text him, we're on your side.
Starting point is 00:52:54 You know what? No, actually, I can't promise that. Because you might be wrong. I'm a swayer. I'll sway. You're just going to side with the callers.
Starting point is 00:53:02 You're just going to side with them. He did this and I'll be like, oh my God, you should leave him. And then he'll call up and be like, yeah, but she did this. And I'll sway you. I'll sway you. You're just going to side with the callers. Yeah. You're just going to side with them. I'll be like, he did this, and I'll be like, oh, my God, you should leave him. And then he'll call up and be like, yeah, but she did this. And I'll be like, she sounds awful. Right. Yeah, I'm going to sway you. You'll just side with the caller.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Okay. Yeah. Well, we want to take your calls now. 0800-DARZATM. Text in 9696. God, this feels dangerous. It does. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Yeah. What are we doing? What are we doing? Let's blow love apart. What are you and your partner currently fighting about? The day before Valentine's Day. Research shows that couples fight about money, what was it, 58 times a year? Yes, that's more than once a week. More than once a week.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Sex, money and children, those were the top topics for fighting. I mean, it was all sex, drugs and rock and roll. Now it's sex, money and children. And argument. Probably the lack of the first topics for fighting. I remember it was all sex, drugs, and rock and roll. Now it's sex, money, and children. And argument. Probably the lack of the first one. Yeah. So we want to know what you're currently arguing about. And we wanted to time this the day before Valentine's Day.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Yeah. And you know what? Ooh. I hear some of them are dating. Do you know what? Golf. I reckon golf must be up there for argument causing. Currently, someone said, argument, twilight golf.
Starting point is 00:54:05 So I'm doing the whole kid's bedtime routine by myself multiple times a week, am I? While you're at the clubhouse. Bring on dark nights when you can't go and play golf after work. Yeah, that's going to wear thin, isn't it? Anonymous, what are you and your partner currently arguing about?
Starting point is 00:54:21 We're currently arguing because he won't stop vacuuming. Okay. Wait, if he wasn't vacuuming, would're currently arguing because he won't stop vacuuming. Okay. Okay. But wait, if he wasn't vacuuming, would you be arguing? No, because the context is it's everyone who has a baby or a new baby knows that the bedtime routine in the evening is the most stressful of the day. And so you've got bath time, you've got dinner, you're trying to cook dinner for yourself.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Yeah. So he puts his headphones in and decides to zone out and vacuum and do chores rather than helping with the baby. We're not zoning out. I'm trying to cook dinner with the baby. Oh, I can see why you'd be angry. Can the baby ride the vacuum cleaner? Well, he's pulling it around.
Starting point is 00:55:00 No, the baby does love the vacuum cleaner, but my partner just puts his headphones in and takes the vacuum to another room. Yeah. No, no, no. What's he doing? Have we talked about that in a structured and constructive manner? Oh, shut up now. Yell at him.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Yeah. I yelled at him. Yeah, yell at him. I just yelled at him to stop vacuuming. Well, because you called, we're on your side. We're on your side. Yeah. I'm kind of on your side.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Yeah, I'm on your side. That's how it goes. Anonymous, thank you. Shelley, what are you and your partner currently arguing about? Hi. Yes, I think I do. Wait, don't argue with us.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Shelley sounds fun to argue with. I think I deserve a diamond engagement ring after being with my partner for five years already. Yeah. And he thinks that it's not worth the investment and that the money should go towards our mortgage, which does not feel fair.
Starting point is 00:55:55 I feel like I'm an investment. Oh, okay. You're trouble, I can tell from here. Shelley, mortgages are boring money, eh? Boring money. How much is this diamond ring going to cost? Watch Fletch.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Everybody watch Fletch. How much is this diamond ring, the one you want, how much is it going to cost? Like five grand. Oh no. That's a nice holiday. So what's...
Starting point is 00:56:16 That is a bloody lovely holiday. It's also a chunk of the mortgage. It's also a chunk of the mortgage. Where are you going to live? Oh.
Starting point is 00:56:23 What is the option if not a diamond ring? Oh, I've already bought one, and we had to get CZs in it instead of diamonds. CZs, yeah, cubic zirconia. Is there a chance that, I mean, look, I'm on your side. Because we're on your side. Diamonds are a girl's best friend.
Starting point is 00:56:43 We all need a little diamond here and there. But could you make a commitment to replace the cubic zirconia in the future? Oh, yeah. Well, in five years, I want it replaced with a diamond. Make it 20. When we first started dating, I said he had five years to pop the question. Oh, you're a nightmare. Go on. It's five years in March, so to be honest,
Starting point is 00:57:08 we're running out of time. So you've already got the ring, but it doesn't yet have any sparkles in it. No, it's just in his bedside table. So like, whenever he feels the need, I guess, in his brain. Is he okay? Can we get a photo of him
Starting point is 00:57:24 with today's paper, please? And a photo of him With today's paper please And A video of him saying He's not being held under duress Shelley you're fine Five years Are you kidding We're on your side Shelley
Starting point is 00:57:33 I waited eight And now we're at fourteen Fletch is not on your side I can tell that was not $15,000 It's so much money Yeah but it's also It's a big investment
Starting point is 00:57:41 You wear this for the rest of your life Apparently Not statistic Good luck resolving this Before Valentine's Day, Shelley. Yeah. Moissanites. Moissanites. Moissanites.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Moissanites. Look like diamonds. As hard as a diamond. Quarter of the price, Shelley. Yeah. Rhiannon, what are you and your partner currently fighting about? So, last night he decided to tell me he bought another thing off Tramie for a dollar that he's going to fix, which I'm absolutely yooing about.
Starting point is 00:58:10 I love the tone in your voice. Honestly, he drives me nuts. I did threaten to outbid him, and I wouldn't pick it up, but I didn't want to. Wait, you wanted to outbid him so that he lost and then just not pick it up but I've got 100% feedback on Trade Me and I didn't want to ruin it
Starting point is 00:58:34 have we even found out what he's purchased for a dollar to fix up so last night he bought a gas heater and it was like the description was like not being used in like 10 years doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:58:48 AKA burns your house down. Doesn't work on a gas heater. I'm going to fix it. I don't even need a gas heater. We've got a heat pump. I don't even know
Starting point is 00:58:56 what it's going to do. What is he doing? Oh my God, I love this. What's he doing? Does he just need a project? I need to know what else he's got at home
Starting point is 00:59:04 that he said he's going to fix up that he hasn't fixed up because that's the vibe I'm getting off this guy. Okay, so lawnmowers are the normal go-to. Yeah. He's a builder, so he buys lots of tools all the time off like, yeah, Trade Me or boot sales.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Yeah. Honestly, our shed and garage are just endless of crap. Oh, Rhiannon. He needs a clip around the ears. Oh my God. Water energy. Well, it needs to be nice and toasty in the next winter. With the heat pump and gas.
Starting point is 00:59:31 On your side. Some text messages in. Far out. There's so many people are alleviating the pressure. I love this. Venting this morning. We are in the process of buying a house in the town where I grew up. I lived. I grew up
Starting point is 00:59:48 in. He's never lived there before and he wants to buy houses that he's saying is great value but I'm telling him it's a bad neighbourhood and he's like, it'll come around and I'm like, I'm not living there while it's coming around. I asked my husband to go to a comedy show and
Starting point is 01:00:04 plan the date. I asked what he's doing for me for Valentine's Day. He said, I'm going, I'm having to go to the comedy show with you. That's your present, my presents. That's kicked off an argument. My husband and I are currently arguing about the cat and the dog. He is always getting grumpy with the dog, but never tells the cat off. And he gets mad when I accuse him of having favourites.
Starting point is 01:00:23 And I get mad when he's being of having favourites and I get mad when he's being mean to the dog. They must receive love equally. Right, okay. Seems like a silly thing to argue over
Starting point is 01:00:32 but hey, we're on your side. My partner recently suggested we put aside 10 minutes a night to talk after work just about life in general and catch up.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Lovely idea. So the other night I asked him about his day and he fobbed me off so I turned it into a passive aggressive bitch and angry cleaning session instead of actually
Starting point is 01:00:46 sharing why I was upset with him. Yes. Now, because I do this, I passively aggressively clean the entire house when I'm feeling annoyed at Aaron. But then all he gets is a lovely clean home. Do you know what I mean? He's not losing. I need to stop doing that. My husband's mad because I keep wearing
Starting point is 01:01:01 his clothes and keep saying I bleach his clothes. He's mostly mad because my response was clothes and keep saying, I bleach his clothes. He's mostly mad because my response was to mock him. So I started mocking the baby instead and said I was being childish. This is our morning argument. My husband and I are currently arguing because he wants to have a dartboard in the lounge
Starting point is 01:01:19 on the mantelpiece. And I'm saying that's going to look ugly, but he is adamant that he can't play outside. It's too windy or it's too sunny. Is there a garage? No. Oh, no. You can't have a dartboard in there.
Starting point is 01:01:29 My husband has been snoring since the day we met. And lately I've started snoring due to a blocked nose and he wakes me up in the middle of the night to tell me I'm snoring too loud every night. Big fight. My husband has Friday night boys' nights and he keeps coming home, doesn't shower and gets into bed with his grotty feet.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Told him if he does it one more time, he's sleeping in the car. My husband is... He's not short. He's not short. He keeps going all day. I love this so much. My husband has weaponised all of his incompetences.
Starting point is 01:01:54 But now I have told him what weaponising competence is and he says, don't you dare say weaponising competence. And we argue. I asked my partner if he knows what a washing basket looks like. He stared at me. So he threw his dirty boxes and undies right at his face. They go on. We've got so many.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I love this. We argued last night because my husband finally said out loud every episode he wants the chaser to win, and I want the contestants to win. And we've had a bit of a tiff about it. It depends who it's chaser, and it depends the cockiness of the panel. You always want the contestants to win, not panel. You always want the contestants to win, not everyone. I always want the panel to win,
Starting point is 01:02:28 especially when there's one. There's only one left. Yeah, when there's one left. Yeah, when there's one, I always want them to win. Or if they, even if I don't like them, if they've got heaps of money,
Starting point is 01:02:35 I want them to win. Yeah, I always want them to win. I like to imagine they take that money directly off the Chaser. Yeah. Thank you to everyone who messaged.
Starting point is 01:02:43 There's so many. Play ZM's Flesh, Fawn and Hayley. Right now it is time for... Fact of the Day, Day, Day, Day, Day. He's about to crowbar in a shellfish fact of the day. Shellfish week here at Fact of the Day. Loving it. It makes you genuinely loving it.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Thanks to Big J, Big Johnny, Big John Dog. Johnny Martin. Well, I have found that we all eat shellfish. Well, not all of us. We've learned about the allergies and stuff this week. Someone else that loves shellfish. Someone else not all of us. We've learned about the allergies and stuff this week. Someone else that loves shellfish. Someone else. Something else.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Sea otters. Oh, yeah. I often forget them when people say, what are your favourite animals? But I've really got a soft spot for the otter. I've got a fizz in my nose. I'm crying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They are one of those ones.
Starting point is 01:03:39 The cute ones make you want to cry. When you see them at the zoo, they're always so playful. Playful and they hold me. Like skidding around. Yeah, so playful. They're playful and they hold me. They're playful, they're rascals. They fall asleep floating on their backs, holding hands with each other so they don't get lost. Well, that's romantic. And today's fact
Starting point is 01:03:54 of the day is sea otters have a favourite rock that they carry around to smash open shellfish with. Where do they keep the rock? In their little bag. In their little pouch. They have a pouch. They have a little pouch. We're like not worthy of them. We're not worthy. Do you remember when the otter escaped from Auckland Zoo
Starting point is 01:04:10 and swam to Rangitoto Island? Off you go, little guy. Is Jin the otter still? No. RIP. That was many years ago. I know. I'm so sorry to... But I saw the otters at Auckland Zoo at the end of last year. They're so cute.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Oh my god. We've got them in New Plymouth. Remember we went to the Newters at Auckland Zoo end of last year. They're so cute. Oh, my God. We've got them in New Plymouth. Remember we went to the New Plymouth Zoo? They had some lovely otters. Oh, my God. They're just so beautiful. So they put a lot of time into finding their perfect stone. Like when you find a good skimming rock in a river.
Starting point is 01:04:43 I've got to an age where if I find a really good stick or stone I'll keep it. That's a sign of a hoarder. I've got a really good stick and it was too short for me
Starting point is 01:04:52 but I said to August and we just watched Lord of the Rings I said what do you think you are actually crying. Is everything okay? You love hoarders. I just am looking
Starting point is 01:05:02 at photos of them and their little feet stick up. It's just so nice I reckon we've found Hayley's winner wish If she gets sick Why wait to play with hotters To get sick
Starting point is 01:05:13 Well I don't want to get sick That's me knocking on the door Of Auckland Zoo Can we come and play with the hotters I'd take a nap I'd lose a nip. I'd take a nip. I'd have a nip. I'd lose a little finger. What a story.
Starting point is 01:05:27 What a story. Who took that? Where's your little finger? An otter got it. It's in an otter. And people would be like, how? And you're like, oh, I just went to the zoo and it bit me. And they did warn me.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Their heart feels so open. Just because I've looked at otters. They do not seem to express preference for stones or rocks of a particular shape. Yeah. They don't have to be smooth, sharp, flat. They're open-minded. They're liberal. I love that.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Instead, they choose them based on their own personal preference to rock and size range. They're always between 6 and 15 centimetres depending on the size of otter. If I was an otter, I'd get one of those white rocks with black speckles in it. Have you ever seen one of those? And you're just like, cool rock. That's different. Yeah, that's a cool rock. Or like a greeny one.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Do you remember when I found, I thought I found some Ponamu at the beach the other day. At the beach and I blessed it. Yeah I blessed it for him. Was that just a smashed bottle that had washed around in the sea and taken off the sharp edges? We'd had a couple of Miami wine callers and I thought I'd found like a couple of thousand dollars of Ponamu. He was like, Keota, look at this I've found a little bit of Ponamu.
Starting point is 01:06:21 And I gave it a little blessing. Thank you. Well they use these rocks. Maybe, I don't know, the strength of this rock that you're describing because that's also a very important facet. It's got to be made of the right thing
Starting point is 01:06:32 so they can smash open. Shellfish. Shellfish. And do you know what they do when they find one that they love and they've already got one? What?
Starting point is 01:06:39 Give it to their best friend. They give the rock to the best friend. Now, if Shelly from before is still listening, that rock doesn't cost $5,000 and isn't a massive diamond. It's just a nice rock from someone that loves you to signify your love. It doesn't need to cost a fortune.
Starting point is 01:06:55 We should learn more from Otters. Is this what that documentary was about? The man who lived in the middle of nowhere with Otters? He had an Otter. Otter. Otter. One Otter. Singular Otter.
Starting point is 01:07:04 I'm changing my desktop background to an Otter. Because of how happy I feel. Foundters. He had an otter. No, otter. Otter, one otter. Singular otter. Oh, yeah. I'm changing my desktop background to an otter. Okay, great. Because of how happy I feel. Found a nice picture of an otter. Well, today's fact for Shellfish Week is that shellfish are eaten by otters and otters have a favourite stone that they keep with them
Starting point is 01:07:16 to smash open shellfish and eat them. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Well, I've been absolutely glued to her videos on TikTok, which kind of reveal a lot of the ways that she catches people cheating. Because this is Cassie who's joining us, who is the founder of Venus Investigations,
Starting point is 01:07:55 basically a private investigation company trying to catch boys doing the dirty. Hi, Cassie. Hi, how are you guys? So good. Good. So we how are you guys? So good. Good. So we were just talking about this off air. When you think of a private investigator,
Starting point is 01:08:11 you think of, what were you saying, Fletch? In the movies, it's always some washed out cop who's like 60, maybe retired. Chain smoking. Chain smoking. Yeah, he's in a dingy office. Yeah. Alcoholic.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Yes. Whereas, Cassie, you run a fully female private investigation company called Venus Investigations, which feels like young and fresh and hip. How did you even get into this line of work? Yeah, so basically some friends and I were sitting around talking, having wines. One of my friends was talking about how she thought her partner might be cheating.
Starting point is 01:08:45 And like you guys said, the idea of a PI is normally this guy in a trench coat, smoking a cigar, going, don't worry, love, I'll find your hunkies doing the bad on you. So, you know, we didn't really see that as a viable option. You know, we wanted to find out if he was cheating. So I started to look into exactly what it takes to be a private investigator. And I kind of got hooked on, you know, solving a mystery, helping women, and it kind of all just spiralled from there. Well, you are a white woman.
Starting point is 01:09:11 In this day and age, you believe you can solve any crime because of the amount of crime podcasts you listen to. I mean, the podcast is next, right? I'll just solve every unsolved homicide in New Zealand. So on your TikTok, you share little snippets, right? So you actually offer a full service to people wanting, you know, a private investigator. But you give little tips on TikTok like how to background check your dates, the number one sign that your partner is cheating, which was, we talked about this on air, cash withdrawals.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Is that right? Yeah, that's a big one. People are much smarter these days. It's not sort of the usual things where they're both driving to a hotel, kissing outside the hotel and going in. Like people are aware that they're being watched. Everyone has a camera these days. So it tends to be those sneaky tricks.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Another one is that people are like using the notes app on your iPhone where you can create a shared note with someone and you can delete it and pictures at a password. So that's a real big one we're finding lately. I know most people aren't even aware. Like your partner's cheating. You might check their messages. You might check their WhatsApp.
Starting point is 01:10:10 You're not going to check their notes app. Oh my God, Cassie, that is genius. Not that I'm planning an affair, but like I wouldn't. I tell you what, ASIO needs to hire some of these cheaters because they are onto it. They should be spies. Yeah. So what is your, like, so someone would call your company.
Starting point is 01:10:28 So you can go on your TikTok and have a look at these little snippets and get some clues on how, like, you yourself can do this. But if I was worried that my partner was cheating on me, I'd call your company and then what happens? Yeah, so we have an initial chat sort of working out exactly what's going on for you and what success in this sort of thing looks like to you. Some people want that definitive proof, that clandestine picture of them kissing someone else. And some people, there's enough signs that sort of make it obvious that that's enough for them.
Starting point is 01:10:55 They don't necessarily want to go that expensive, me in a car with a bunch of cameras telling the partner. It's more, you know, we can find the information some other way. That's enough for them. And then I give a day by day update if we do end up doing surveillance of what's going on, they get photos, they get videos, they get a time log. It's very comprehensive. Have you like been tailing someone and just thought, this is crazy? Like, have you ended up anywhere bizarre tailing someone? I mean, not necessarily bizarre, but there was one recently where the partner was at a football game and he was going out afterwards
Starting point is 01:11:26 and she thought, you know, if he's going to do the journey, it's going to be when he's had a few drinks with the team after the game. And I thought, there's going to be a football field. I'll take my little dog, my little puppy is, you know, a distraction. I'll be there in active wear. Again, white woman in active wear, walking a dog. Not very normal. Very normal.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Exactly. But then as we were starting to leave the stadium, I got her in the car and she started pooping all over the car, had a little upset stomach. So I'm trying to tell this guy, camera in one hand on the dash cam, try to stop this dog from pooing all over my car. And I was like, you see the glamorous side of PI work? And then there's this.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Oh, my God. Do you ever get people approaching you and giving you this, you know, lead and then you get there and they're not cheating? And you're just like, no, he's actually fine? I think the majority of the time people are right. Like we kind of know in our gut when something's going on. I find the times where they are incorrect is when they've been cheated on before. Because, you know, if you've got that history,
Starting point is 01:12:19 you sort of everything becomes a sign, everything becomes a concern. So generally you've got that history. They might not be cheating, but otherwise, like women, we're told to like be nice, not listen to our instincts. But at the end of the day, our gut knows what's going on. So what would your, like you're a pro at this at this point, what would your three things to look out for be? I think number one, any change to routine,
Starting point is 01:12:41 whether that's a big one we're seeing lately is new hobbies. You know, suddenly they've always hated country music and then suddenly they're like, gee, I mean, Morgan Wallen's all right, isn't he? I think I'll go. I mean, country music is having a resurgence. It was a weird one. I'm an obsessed fan, but not everyone is.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Yeah, right. Any change to routine, any change to the way they're spending their time, you know, if they're getting home late from work, obviously a classic, but for a reason. The other one would be if they're just sort of reacting to you differently. That can be pulling away from you, but it can also be becoming really affectionate. I've got flowers for the first time and we've been together four years.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Yeah, like making up for it. That is a sign of guilt. Yeah. And again, I know I've already said it, but back to your gut, like really, there may not be these hardcore signs you can put your finger on, but you know when something's different. If you've been with someone for a few years, you know when something's off.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Well, I think so. I don't think I've ever been cheated on. I've never had that feeling where I've gone, oh, I think something's up. So hopefully that means that I haven't been. Or they were just real good. Why are you putting that in my head, Cass? Why did you do that?
Starting point is 01:13:43 Wait, what? No, I'm sure they were lovely. I always joke, Cassie, I always say, I would almost applaud my partner if he cheated on me because it seems so implausible. Like, he doesn't know how to work a phone. He, like, he doesn't, like, it just would be almost funny to me. He'd need your help to cheat.
Starting point is 01:14:02 He'd need tips from you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He'd need tips from you, yeah yeah he'd need tips from you actually to be like how do i do this so do you only uh find cheating men or do you find cheating women for men as well look it's mainly for women whether that's women who are in a partner with a man or another woman we do occasionally do that other work but that's really where my passion is for you know helping other women whether both cheating but then also background checks when they're starting to date someone as well because obviously you can work out a guy's hinky before you get too deep and get those feelings
Starting point is 01:14:32 that's the ideal situation oh my god this is just amazing if you want to check her out on tiktok venus investigations um there's so many great little tips and tricks there especially head of valentine's day you know they might be buying two bunches of flowers, right? Probably in the same order when the email comes to their partner. I mean, some of them aren't smart. Oh my God. Well, Cassie, thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:14:54 This is absolutely, I don't know, I'd love, like, it's like, PI is such an interesting career and I love seeing behind the curtain. So we appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Play ZM's Flesh, Fawn and Hayley. While Sam Asghari filed for divorce, behind the curtain. So we appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Well, Sam Asghari filed for divorce 2023, I believe it was, from Brittany. And Brittany did her tell-all book. Had a little bit about him in there. Not too much. But he'd done a podcast. Sam Asghari done a podcast. It's called The Vile Files.
Starting point is 01:15:24 Why did he choose this podcast? I've never heard of this podcast before I had to ask who he was The man was on a bachelor Oh okay right He was on a bachelor's handbag That would actually be a good take on the bachelor The bachelor's handbag You've got to compete for the
Starting point is 01:15:39 He gives you a chicken a bag and you're through the next round Yeah nice nice If it's dry I'm sorry you don't get a rose. But this is a big get for a podcast. Yeah, because for a while, I mean, he's just remained pretty quiet about the whole thing, the whole relationship and the divorce. They just came out with statements being like, you know, we love the time to get the time to move on. So there's a couple of things.
Starting point is 01:16:01 The big question that they wanted to ask him about is about the conservatorship. No, she didn't explain. Somebody called me and said, oh, just so you know, this is this and make sure you're obeying by our rules. You don't have much to say, especially if you're just a boyfriend or someone that's just there.
Starting point is 01:16:18 You know, maybe I was afraid they're going to maybe make me not see her and things like that. So you have to be gentle and provide support as much as you can. Yeah, so the whole time he's all about respect. Actually, he's a real catch. That sucks for Brittany.
Starting point is 01:16:33 He's hot and he's really respectful. But he said, you know, because Jamie, the father, was the one who was running the conservatorship. And he was like, I had to show respect to my father-in-law as well because otherwise, yeah, basically he could have stopped me from seeing her. And then everyone was like, why did you remain quiet the whole time? And he spoke about that. There was an article that came out, oh, he has a gag order.
Starting point is 01:16:52 None of that. That's not what it is. What I do have is an upbringing with a lot of respect and what I do have is morales and sometimes when it's a personal life and something so personal, I don't go into details and I don't like talking about it. I get it. There's a lot of fans
Starting point is 01:17:08 and there's a lot of questions and it's almost weird if you don't talk about it. So he didn't have a gag order on the conservatorship, but he did say that he had to sign an NDA during the divorce. Right.
Starting point is 01:17:22 So he signed an NDA saying he wouldn't say anything negative about Brittany or anything like that. But when on this podcast, basically, I mean, me and Georgia were just there with our hands on our hearts being like, oh my God. So sweet. So sweet.
Starting point is 01:17:33 I'm guessing the NDA is finished, right? Is that why he can talk about it even now? Yeah, maybe. And even he's so respectful. But he doesn't have anything terrible to say about her. He also got asked, I know we're out of time, he also got asked about his response to her knife dance when she came out with the knife. Oh, yeah. And in the next video, she had like cuts say about her. He also got asked, I know we're out of time, he also got asked about his response to her knife dance when she came out with the knives. And in the next video
Starting point is 01:17:48 she had like cut cuts all over her. Everyone was like, Hon, why are you dancing with these knives and why didn't your husband try to stop you making these kind of mad dancing videos? When your wife's got a passion, you just let it run. Dude, no! Swinging sharp metal objects around.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Legitimately. How are you supposed to stop the woman with the knife? This is legitimately him He said like Why would I ever want to stop my wife Doing something Expressing herself in the way that she chooses to express For Britney it starts He said I always encourage you
Starting point is 01:18:15 He called her a genius artist The likes of Michael Jackson Wow He was like I had full respect for her as a creative And he saw the social media videos Which which she kind of gets roasted for, as part of her expressing herself. And he was fully on board.
Starting point is 01:18:30 I mean, I think this would be a really good lesson because we're obsessed with Britney because of her whole journey from child pop star to madwoman dancing on the internet. With knives. It's called The Vile Files, the podcast, if you want to go check it out. Georgia Burt is next. Not a fan. Honestly, neither.
Starting point is 01:18:48 Who is that chick? Why is she here? Who even is she? She's got her knives out and she's ready to do a crazy dance. Crazy dancing. Shivers, guys.
Starting point is 01:18:59 10 out of 10 podcast. That one? Yeah. I think two of us were 10 out of 10 and one of us wasn't. Well, who was that? Which one?
Starting point is 01:19:04 We'll just leave that. We'll just leave that there. Well, if you enjoyed today's podcast, give us a rating and review. Please do. Unless it's a bad one. Oh, yeah. Don't bother. Yeah, no, don't.
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