ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 14th November 2024

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

Places kiwi's are travelling the most Jon Benet Ramsey Doco Top 6 Signs the tourist's are back Married couple shares bunks SLP - Do you poop at the same time everyday? Are you named after a ficticious character? Bad news Brad Shannon's Hack People's sexiest man announced What loyalty programme are you addicted too? Fact of the Day Vaughan's been diagnosed by Shannon Making friends in New Zealand is hardSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The ZM Podcast Network. The Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley Big Pod. Great things are brewing at McCafe. The perfect start to every day. Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley on ZM. Thank you, Bryn. Good morning. Welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.

We need to get Bryn a lemon sip or a strepsil. Or some kind of lozenge. Sounds like he could benefit from a... Well, he's been to Coldplay and I think he's got a bit of a sniffle. Right, so he went to Coldplay with a cold. Yes. And then he's here to play. He's here to play.

Goodness me. Hayley's away today. Colonoscopy day. Yeah, spoken about this, getting the colonoscopy. Yeah, we've just got to get that checked. Right, it's a yearly thing now. Don't muck around with those. No. That area. That can be hiding all sorts of goodies. I've never had one. Well, you've had one. Yep, just got to get that checked. Right, it's a yearly thing now. Don't muck around with those. No.

That area. That can be hiding all sorts of goodies. I've never had one. You've had one. Yep. I've had two. Well, I've done the prep for two. That's right.

It didn't work. And then the next time was much better. They needed a larger, smaller hose, didn't they? A longer hose. Longer hose. Longer hose. No, they needed the different painkiller. Oh, yeah. The first one didn't work. Yeah, that needed the different painkiller. Oh, yeah.

The first one didn't work. Yeah, that's not good. But then I got propofol. Sweet, sweet Michael Jackson propofol. What can go wrong? Proper F. What can go wrong there? Yum, yum.

The top six is coming up. We've had a whole bunch of data out. Yeah, apparently tourism numbers are almost back at pre-pandemic levels. Okay. Yeah, and Kiwis are starting to take more holidays overseas again.

Yeah. Those numbers are getting back up. Well, I've actually got the, we can do this next, I've actually got the list of the places Kiwis are travelling the most. Okay.

If you need some holiday ideas. Yep. And then I've got the top six signs the tourists are back. Play ZM's Flashborn and Hayley. Well, all the stats are in. We're travelling.

People are travelling here almost as much as before the pandemic. Where are we going? Like we're at 80-something percent of people coming here. Oh, I see. Yeah, which is good. Yeah, yeah. Australia is the number one place. I mean, that's no surprise, is it? That is just... It's, what, three-hour flight to Sydney, three and a bit. Yeah. Australia is the number one place. I mean, that's no surprise, is it?

That is. It's a three-hour flight to Sydney, three and a bit. Yeah. Four to Melbourne. That'd also just be people back and forth into family over there, et cetera. And I think they're like the biggest, they're like 50% of visitors to New Zealand as well, Australians.

But again, that's just Kiwis coming home, right? Yeah. 9% of holidays in second place, the place that Kiwis are going the most, Fiji. That makes sense. Yeah, makes sense. It's not my favourite island. Yeah, we've done a Fiji. It's not my favourite island.

Well, you've got to get off the island to the other islands. To the other islands. Yeah. But I can see it's like accessible and people just go and stay in the resorts. It's easy to get to. But you can't be to Araratonga or Asamoa. Yeah. But I can see it's like accessible and people just go and stay in the resorts. It's easy to get to. You can't beat an Araratonga or a Samoa. Yeah. I haven't done Samoa.

Love it. It's on the list. You could cycle around it. So third, I don't know. You can't. My parents did the cycling around it. It sounds too hot to do that. You've got to go in the cooler months.

Okay. Third on the list of the place Kiwis are travelling the most are the US and then the UK. Okay. So, yeah, but like 40%- The UK? Long way? Yeah. Just the UK.

I would have thought other parts of Europe. Or do they fly into the UK and then from there they're on their own? Maybe. Just book flights, return to London, and then kind of go around. Go from there. But also, speaking of travel, you'd be a bit on edge at the moment if you've booked a trip to Bali, which wasn't on the list of most popular destinations.

But it's cheap. Well, because you've got an exploding volcano. Is their volcano up again? It's 500km away from Bali, Depensar, the main airport you fly into. But yeah, it started on Sunday. Australian Airlines, Jetstar, Qantas and Virgin announced yesterday that flights, basically people were stranded.

When does this last pop off? I don't know if it's the same one as last time. There's so many volcanoes around there. I think the last one wasn't the last one on the main island. It was closer. Maybe. It is looking... Agung was the last one. What's this one that's going off now?

This one is called Luatobi Laki Laki. That was great pronunciation, by the way. It was perfect. Agung was the one I was thinking from 2017 to 2019. It was active. 500km away the one I was thinking from 2017 to 2019. Yeah, this is active. 500 k's away from Bali, so it exploded, killed nine people, and like 15,000 people evacuated.

But, yeah, a lot of flights. Even today, looking at the flights in and out of Bali, a lot of them have been disrupted or cancelled. So, yeah, if you've got a Bali trip. It's coming up soon, fingers crossed. But I don't, so who cares? No, yes, I would have never. Yeah, like, ha, ha, ha. Yeah.

I'm trying to find the definitive list of documentaries about JonBenet Ramsey, because I can remember it happening. As a kid? Yeah. Is that when it happened? 96? And I can remember the,

I don't know, yes, December 25th or 26th of 1996. Fantastic Christmas. Was it? Was it? Okay. Fantastic Christmas.

Well, apart from for them. It's one of the biggest unsolved mysteries, murder mysteries of all time. Yeah. And like many series and dramas on TV back in the day were the original podcasts, weren't they?

See, I seem to remember a two-night television event. Well, there was only, I feel like, last year or the year before a Netflix miniseries or doco about it. But producer Shannon, very excited at this news because you have described the JonBenet Ramsey murder case as your Roman Empire. It just plagues my brain. I have just watched and researched for so long. When I was in high school, we got to study in history. We got to pick a conspiracy theory and we had to write an essay on it. And I did Marilyn Monroe because my teacher said I wasn't allowed to do JonBenet Ramsey and I remember crying.

Because it wasn't. But that's not a world at school. Your teacher is like, find a conspiracy theory and write about it. And the funny thing was, is at the end of the essay you had to say what you thought and if you did the moon landing and you said it was fake, you would fail because they said you didn't look at the evidence

hard enough. And I remember that because my friend failed. She thought the moon landing was fake. What school did you go to? A public one. No, don't tarnish, don't tarnish public. We all went to public schools. I went to Howard College in East Auckland. Don't tarnish all public schools with that, thank you.

Now, Netflix have announced a new documentary. I thought the last one was amazing. Yeah, so this one, it's kind of reenacted by actors. They're kind of getting all these actors to do it. It's coming out on the 25th of November. And I am fizzing. We just watched the trailer and the actors look so much like them. Right.

Like as soon as I saw Patsy, I went guilty. Who's Patsy? The mum. Because there are two options, right? The brother did it. The younger brother did it. And the parents covered it up. Then there was a ransom note, which was what, four pages?

Yeah, it was ridiculous. Or it was an intruder that just happened to walk off the street, bludgeon this girl, and then leave. Yeah. And then said a ransom note, but left the body? It was a CNN documentary in 2016, and they got a kid to come in and use a torch on a watermelon. Wait, what do you mean? Like put it behind the watermelon

and see through the watermelon? No, like bludgeon the watermelon. Oh, bludgeon the watermelon. With a torch! Well, that was the murder weapon. If you were going to kill someone with a torch, what kind of torch would you use? One of those big place ones. Oh, you'd use the place, that kind of doubles as a baton. Yeah. Yeah, it was kind of like a long metal one and

Do they still actually, I think they've got little tor long metal one And Do they still actually I think they've got Little torches now I think they do I think they go Little but powerful torches Yeah So that You wouldn't bludgeon

Anyone with that No Did I ever tell you About the time We found a police torch No In the bush in Hamilton What did you hand it back

It was a coolest torch No no Callum had it And then I think someone Stole it from his house Oh right Sort of a sought after item.

Cool torch. Okay. Right. Hamilton. Hamilton's story. I might actually go and face the marketplace and see if I can find a police torch. I want a police torch and I want a fireman's axe, please. I want um, um, night vision goggles. Not for littering. No, that like Navy Seals use.

Yeah. How cool would that be? Just driving along at night. I want to know who killed John Bonnet Ramsey. Oh, okay. That's the only time I'm about to. along at night. I want to know who killed John Berenstain. Well, you'll get another documentary in, what, 10 days. 10, 11 days on Netflix. Play. ZM, Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.

Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah, blah. This is the Top 6. Ah, where'd I put it? Where did Grandad put his list? Here it is. Top 6 signs the tourists are back. Because the numbers are back. We're getting back up.

Yeah, so we're almost back to pre-pandemic levels with tourists visiting the country. It's a speedier recovery than expected. I thought we'd kind of be back there by now. So in September, 87% of 2019 numbers before the pandemic. But now we're charging people more to come to New Zealand. I think it's like, is it

$100 extra? Entry. Entry when you get your e-visa. Right. Stats, New Zealand say overseas visitor numbers 3.23 million in September. In September? In the September 2024 year. Oh, Jesus.

So the year to September. I was going to say, that's like 100,000 people a day. That explains the big lines. That's the airport lines. But yeah, it's a big increase. Yeah. But still a little bit below 2019 numbers. Well, I've got the top six signs that are back, baby.

The numbers are up. Number six on the list. Lovely little piles of poos on the side of the road and rest areas on State Highway 1, 16, 2, 27. All of the state highways. Freedom campers. Yeah. Yeah. They love a little...

The sticker says self-contained. Why are they still doing poo-poos outside? Because nobody... Have you ever been in a camper there? Nobody wants to poo in the camper. You don't poo in the camper. Then you've got to empty it and it smells. Yeah, there's emptying spots.

No. Number five on the list of the top six signs the tourists are back, baby. Cars are driving on both sides of the road again. It's very confronting when you're in Queenstown or Wanaka and you pull out somewhere and you're driving down the road and you see the arrows pointing which way you should be driving. Oh, constantly. You're like, oh, that's right.

And every rental car you get into should have a keep left. Yeah, they do. Should have a keep left. But then having driven also in places where you drive on the other side of the road, it's just habit, man. Sometimes you pull out and you're just about to pull out on the wrong lane. I just follow people. Yeah, but that's, well, that's all right if there's people around.

No, I just wait till someone comes up. It's all right. We were in America and I was driving in LA and I was coming into an intersection. I was like, I hate zero idea of what to do here. So I just kind of like pulled over. Yeah. And then waited for someone to come up behind me.

Then I got back in behind them and luckily they were turning and I followed them around. Yeah. Otherwise, I guess I just would have floored it. Yeah. Number four on the list of the top six signs the tourists are back. You meet someone on what I would describe as a challenging bush hike,

and they're wearing socks and sandals. Yeah, classic. Socks and sandals, light shirt, some shorts. And they might stay the night in the hut. Completely unprepared. Classic. Number three on the list of the top six signs the tourists are back. You see people climbing fences to get into paddocks with dangerous animals

because they assume every animal is a friendly photo opportunity. Yes. Oh, that is a beautiful Highland cow with literal swords attached to each side of its head. I might chomp in the paddock with it. Number two on the list of the top six signs the tourists are back. People with funny accents are asking you where the hobbits are. Yeah. That's a surefire sign.

Down the road. Yeah. Keep driving that way. You'll come across the shire for sure. And number one on the list of the top six signs the tourists are back. You're likely to come around the corner in a scenic spot on a road to a family standing in the middle of that road

for a photo because those road photos where the road is like going through the middle of a hill and there's a thing in the background. Hot property on the ground. There's that Taranaki one. Taranaki's got one. The road goes up and the mountains in the background. Beautiful.

And there's the stretch of road out towards, out from Queenstown past Glenorchy. Oh yeah, people always stop it around there. Oh man. Beautiful shots

of these long straight roads. But there's a corner at the start. Yeah. There's a corner and a few lumps that you can go. But there's a corner at the start. Yeah. There's a corner and a few lumps that you can go. Just be careful is what I'm saying. Just drive very carefully. That's today's top six. Play ZM's Fleshborn and Hayley.

Play ZM's Fleshborn and Hayley. Okay. We've talked about sleep divorces and people get them. And my grandparents had two single beds in the same room, but it was a very big room and they were on other sides of the room. But my other grandparents... Single beds? Single beds. But they could have fit at least double. Or queens, right? Dude, they could have fit...

The room was huge. They could have fit five king-size beds in the room and still had room. You know those hotel rooms where there's two big beds and you put your suitcase on one of them and the other one you sleep in? Their room was significantly larger than that. That would be the ultimate.

Or like how Europeans do it. There's kind of like two mattresses next to each other and you each get a duvet so you're not stealing the duvet. That's the way to do it. Yeah, whereas my parents get into bed together until one of them starts snoring and the other one gets so shitty they go and sleep in the other room. And then that's a modern take on a sleep divorce.

Yes. It's just whoever can get to sleep first and start snoring will vacate the other one. Well, this has become popular, those sleep divorces. I can totally, if you're not getting a good night's sleep, I can totally see why. Especially if your partner's a snorer. Yeah, totally.

So this couple, American couple, they do a little bit differently. They've got custom-made queen-size bunk beds. Okay. They've both got a queen-size bed each, but they're literally sleeping right on top of each other. That's going to have to, have they got, it's not a rickety bunk bed, is it? It doesn't look like, it's rough sawn timber. Right.

It's got a real cabin aesthetic to it. It's got a dock hut vibe, but with a bit of mattress. You know, there's some of those Airbnbs in there, there's like the metal bunk beds and there's a bar in between the mattress. It's not kids' bunks. It's like big grunty bunks. See, I wouldn't mind that, but I would want to be on the bottom bunk because I go wheeze all the mattress. It's not kids bunks. It's like big grunty bunks. See, I wouldn't mind that, but I would want to be on the bottom bunk

because I go wheeze all the time. It's very sturdy. It doesn't look like it would wobble and rickety when the person on the top bunk gets up to go wheeze in the middle of the night and the ladder's big. Yep, okay. And then so the person up top

leans over in the morning to check the person downstairs is awake and then they'll pop downstairs for a cuddle. So, yeah. And they said it's great. They're younger, though. They've only been married for five years. So it's not like we're not talking about an old, old couple.

They're American, aren't they? Young and American. So a story from July said that over a third of Americans say that they sleep in another room or have a sleep divorce arrangement to accommodate their partner. Yeah. So just snoring, I guess. Across the living crisis, though, you've got to...

You've got to have an extra room, don't you? You've got to have that extra room, eh? Otherwise, you're just going to be... If you can afford that luxury. Yeah, totally. Or you just do single beds in the same room or double beds in the same room. In a really big room, total opposite sides.

Push them together. Turn off your hearing aid. Yeah. And you can't have the other person chainsawing in the same room. In a really big room, total opposite sides. Push them together. Turn off your hearing aid. Yeah. And you can't hit the other person. Chainsawing in the other corner. ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Silly little poe.

Silly little poe. It is so silly, silly, silly that the silly little poe. Silly little poe. Silly little silly little poll, silly little poll, silly little poll. Silly little poll today. Do you poop at the same time every day? 56% of people said no. Really?

44% of people said yes. They poop at the same time every day. I'd say I'm like the mornings, give or take, roughly the same time. I think it's, for me, it's around about the same time every morning. Yeah. Because it'll be after work on a weekday and on the weekend it'll be like after breakfast, which both align around, you know, 9, 9.30. Same time.

Yeah. Yeah. And it was this week I heard the great saying, boss gets paid in dollars, I get paid in dimes. That's why I'm always doing my purpees on the company's time. Oh, yeah. Okay. Great.

You get paid to poo. That's great stuff. Get to work. Yeah. Clock in. Yep. You're doing that for free at home. Yeah.

And you're having to buy the toilet paper. Yeah. Yeah. Great idea, Vaughan. First thing in the morning, says Chaz. Sometimes it even wakes me up if I'm trying to have a lie-in. Oh, okay. Oh, my Lord.

Woken by a poo. I'll get woken by a wee regularly. Yeah, because I did look at some Google results, and they say that the morning is when the colon, like while you're sleeping. So the morning is the best time. It does its work. Yeah, it does its work while you're sleeping. So the morning is the best time. It does its work. Yeah, it does its work while you're sleeping.

And then, you know, it said here, you should poop anywhere from three times a day up to three times a week. Who's pooping? No, no, three times a week up to three times a day. Because if you were, that would be a movement down in bowel activity. No, yeah, yeah. So anything from three times a week to three times a day is normal. Who's not pooping every day?

Some people don't. Some people just don't. That blew my mind. Yeah. That's insane. No, some people just don't. They've got to get a move in. They're not eating fibre.

And then some people with, like, I guess if you're pooping more than three times a day, you might have the old IBS might be a sitch. Yeah, or like, yeah. You should probably talk to somebody about it. Yeah. But I recently heard about someone that poops once a week. Regularly. Once a week?

Not just when they're sick, just once a week. It must be as hard as a rock. It must be so compacted. So compacted. It is wild. First thing in the morning. Oh, yeah, no, read that one. I'm laughing in IBS, says Lottie.

Right. I'm a slave to my body. Okay. I must go when I must go. Ashley said, my boss knows the phones will not be answered for a 10-minute window at 2.30pm. That's when I'm doing my pooping. Right, okay. 2.30pm.

That's late, isn't it? Big lunch, maybe. So when you, have you ever had, I think I can think of three times in my adult life where I need to go pooze in the middle of the night. So weird. It's weird, eh? Pooze in the dark.

Because everybody knows that, like, they need a bus to go wheeze in the middle of the night, feeling. Yeah. Because I'll go for a midnight, you know, a three o'clock wheeze all the time. But pooping's when you're at your most vulnerable. Yeah.

And it feels it's wrong to do it in the dark. It feels like primarily it would have been a terrible idea to sneak out of the cave for a poop. You'd get eaten. You'd get eaten by something. Yeah. Get eaten by something. I don't even poo every day.

I'm a once or twice a week kind of gal, says Tegan. That is... Tegan. How? Is that possible? I don't even poo every day. I'm a once or twice a week kind of gal, says Tegan. How? Is that possible? I don't know. Is she eating enough? Fiber? She can't be eating enough. You need some fiber in your diet.

No poo. Some metamucil pills. But they're not. Yeah. I don't know. Is it a painful one when you do go? That seems like it needs to be happening more regularly. I've got a question.

We should do an AMA. I just said you're not eating enough. We should do an AMA. We should do an AMA with a once a week pupper. I've got so many questions. Mason said, no poop schedule here. I poop on a need to poop basis. Do you find it weird, because I'm always the same time-ish morning, if you go on holiday

and then everything goes up. I think it's plain food and a big change in diet when you go on holiday that just clogs it up a bit. Yeah. And then you get your barley belly or your deli belly, and it sorts itself out pretty smartly. Courtney said, muesli and a morning coffee. Ooh, you know she regular.

Okay. Mira says, yep, every morning and night. Morning and night. Top and tail of the day. Top and tail. Book ending of the day with a poo. Okay. I absolutely hate using public bathrooms and avoid it at all costs.

I guess my body's just adapted to I poop when I'm at home. Yeah. Nadine said, if only I had that sort of bowel organisation in my life. And because I went out, I shit what I need to shit, says Andrew. Thank you, Andrew. Even if it's in a plastic bag in my truck while I'm driving. If you've got to go, you've got to go. Andrew, no. I've it's in a plastic bag in my truck while I'm driving. If you've got to go, you've got to go. Andrew, no.

I've got a such a personal drawer. We'll talk about it later in the show while my face is almost paralyzed today. I can't laugh. I really wanted to. And finally, finishing up with Julia, a classy lady. I call it the three o'clock drop, baby. Yeah, nice. She's doing her drops at three o'clock.

Brilliant. Three o'clock, though. That's such a mid-after. Yeah, nice. She's doing a drop. It's three o'clock. Brilliant. Three o'clock, though. That's such a mid-afternoon. I know. That's an odd time. That's wild. Fascinating responses. That silly little pop.

Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. Thank you, Bryn. And, bro, what a show last night. You were there. I saw your stories. Thank you Bryn. And Bryn, what a show last night. You were there, I saw your stories.

Yeah. Coldplay. I was updating the stories. Sorry to everyone who follows me. I was inundating them last night with updates. What a show.

What a show. Yeah, see I kind of wish I'd gone now. But I know there's a couple left. Yeah, a couple shows left.

On a school night it gets a bit late, doesn't it? When are the other two shows? Friday and Saturday. I'm also going to those shows. Are they all in Auckland? Yeah.

They've sold out three and a half. 150,000 people. It's insane. How is it getting home? So I live in Herne Bay, which isn't that far from... I didn't know we were in the presence of royalty. Did we know that Bryn lived in one of New Zealand's most affluent suburbs? I know it's affluent.

I know it's affluent. I know it's affluent. No, you remember Kath and Kim? I will always say affluent suburbs now. Wow, okay. And it still took you a while to get home? It took me an hour and a half. Oh, jeez.

I decided to walk, and that was a bad idea. It sounds like, have you got a cold or did you lose your voice as well? Yeah, all of that. All of that. I was also the most annoying person to sit next to because I'd seen the show last year in Perth. Oh, yeah. And so I was telling everyone around me, who I didn't know,

oh, get your phone out. They're gonna do something cool here. Oh, right. Okay, yeah. So you're a massive Cold cool here. Oh, right, okay, yeah. So you're a massive Coldplay fan? No, I'm not that obsessed. But you just said you went to Perth, and this is the third time you've seen the show, and you're going two more times.

Yeah. Some would say slightly obsessed. Jesus Louise. Those tickets weren't cheap. Annie was in Herne Bay. I know. I think somebody won a lotto and didn't tell us. Someone's doing quite well.

Do you need this job or is it just some fun for you? It's just a hobby. It's one of those fun jobs. Love it. Well, you look after your voice because we need the news tomorrow, Bryn. Coming up on the show, Bad News Brad joins us. Always. Economist, Brad Olsen.

Lovely to have Brad in. And because I know a lot of people are having to refix their mortgages soon, so that'll be a big question for him. Me included. Yeah. Also, let's get a check on the price of biscuits and chocolate and lollies, because when's that coming down? I don't think it is.

Because inflation's down. When are my biscuits cheaper? No, because we've got cocoa issues. Oh, okay, right. Cocoa supply issues. Well, all things economy and questions like that. For bad news, Brad Olsen very soon on the show. But next.

We want to know if you're named after a fictitious character. Play ZM's Flesh, One and Hayley. We want to talk about now if you're named after a fictitious character, like a movie character or someone from a TV show, because a lady on Reddit said she's pregnant, she's 23. Yep. She wants to name her baby after a Star Trek character. Okay. She loves Star Trek character Okay

She loves Star Trek Or maybe she's just heard a name while it's been playing Spock Spock, a great name Yep Tiberius Because that's what the T's stood for in James T. Kirk Right

James T. Kirk, Tiberius This is going to be the first instance of this Like how many Lukes are there because of Luke Skywalker? Luke Skywalker Totally I mean that's like also just a plain name I went to school with a guy called Ben are there because of Luke Skywalker? I mean, that's like also just a plain name. I went to school with a guy called Ben who was named after Ben Kenobi,

Obi-Wan Kenobi, and his middle name was Luke because his parents were massive Star Wars fans. See, you're just lucky you've got a wife that said no to all of that. Yeah. Well, Indy is named, like Indiana Jones kind of played into it.

Because Indiana Jones was supposed to be called Indiana Smith. But your wife would say that's named after the state, right? Well, I should just say it. It's a pretty name. Is Indiana a state? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Or a city. Now you've got me down. No, no, no, no. It's a state. It's a state. Indiana Paces. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it? Yeah. Is it? Yeah. I kind of wish we had states. You know, we've got regions. We've got provinces, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, You can do that if you want. People will not know what the hell you're talking about. A little pull-down menu when we're filling out an address just makes you feel a bit special. What state.

Yeah. So we want to know this morning if you're named after a fictitious character. Maybe it's from a book. Maybe it's from a movie. Do you know what there are? And I know we've talked about this in the past. Khaleesi's after Game of Thrones. I heard on school pick-up one day somebody walking up saying,

hurry up, Khaleesi. And I was just like, what a sentence to hear. And they would literally that would have been, they would have been young enough that that was Game of Thrones. Year one, so five. Totally. Well, young enough to be named Khaleesi from Game of Thrones. I love that.

Yeah. I think Game of Thrones had the names that, like, uh, Daenerys, sounds like a posh, classic English name, but it was totally made up by,

Yeah, it was. by George R, R, R, R, R, R,

Martin. Who apparently, there is, there's a Game of Thrones movie coming. HBO have had this big, like, kind of, couple of days of press.

Oh, really? Like, released a few White Lotus teasers and stuff, and yeah, apparently there is a Game of Thrones movie coming. Okay. So maybe that will inspire more fictitious names. There are some messages coming in from some people whose parents thought they were making a wild shot in the dark,

and then the movie got really popular. Oh, okay. Okay, 0800 dials at M is the number. You can text us as well, 9696. Are you named after a fictitious character? We want to know if you're named after a fictitious character. A woman has asked the internet via Reddit if it's okay to name her kid after a Star Trek character.

Did you say the name, the Star Trek name? No. She hasn't said. No. Okay. So it could be, I mean, are all the characters, are there any normal names? Or are they all kind of made up and out there? There aren't humans in Star Trek. Yeah.

But you're saying I'm naming it after a specific Star Trek character. You are imagining it's got to be something a little bit different, right? Yeah. Well, wow. We're hearing, we're certainly getting some responses. My brother is named Jareth after the Goblin King in the Labyrinth. That was my mum's favourite movie while she was pregnant with him. Like Jared meets Gareth.

Yeah, Jareth. Jareth. Which is, the Goblin King is David Bowie in that movie, isn't it? Right. Yeah. Mum loved that tight. Oh, she loved David Bowie in the tight pants with the mullet wig and he was spinning the balls in his hands.

And now she's got a Jareth. And now she's got her very own Jareth at home. I have a friend whose daughter's name is Daenerys after Game of Thrones. So Game of Thrones is quite popular, quite an influence. Your son has

a fictitious name or named after a fictitious character. Spitting it out there. Yeah, I've named him Dominic after Dominic Toretto from Fast and the Furious. At least you know

he'll always be about family. But I've got bad news in his late teens, he's probably going to start losing his hair. No, he's 19 now and hasn't, but... What? So he's 19,

so you named him after, like, the first Fast and the Furious movie. Yep. You had no idea there was going to be a franchise of, like, 15 of them. No, not at all. I didn't think you would have seen that first movie and thought, I think this will be going strong in 12 years

or 20 years. That's insane. There'll be a lot of these. I feel like this is the franchise that's going to take off. Yeah. How does he feel about that name, Yvette, now? He thinks it's funny. Yeah.

Well, I suppose it isn't that out there. The name existed beforehand, but I guess the origin of the name. It did. Yvette, thank you. Good morning, Shia. Hello. Hello. Now, you are named after a fictitious, I would say, place.

Yeah, yeah. He had woman's names from the books, but no, he chose the place. There's some beautiful female names in the Lord of the Rings books. Yeah, yeah. No, this is my dad. He's weird. So he loved the books. This is even before the movies. Before the movies. Yeah, he's like,

you will be Shia. Yes. The place where all the hobbits live. Shia, permission to play your soundtrack in the background? Oh, yeah, okay. Oh, you've heard that before, haven't you? Oh, yep. I've heard it all. So, have you been to Hobbiton? Yep. I've heard it all. It's a foot stroke,

I suppose. Have you been to Hobbiton? No. Oh, come on. We simply must. You've got to. We simply must. Where in the country are you? Dunedin.

Oh, yeah. It's between you and the Shire. Right. Shire and the Shire, for sure. Has it made you, like, anti-all-of-the-Lord-of-the-Ring stuff, though?

No. I think because my father shared his love with me. Right, yeah, for the book. He loved it so much. Shia. But this was before the movies. This was before the movies. When the movies were the thing,

like, when they first came out, I really did want to stab people for all the jokes. Because from the point the movies came out, have you just been explaining or having conversations about your name every single day? Yeah. Yeah, you would. And no one knew how to pronounce it before the movies came out.

Right. I mean, the wildest part is your middle name's Frodo. That's what I... Or is it Sauron or Samurais? You know, the bad guys. What is your middle name? Really boring. Jane.

Shia Jane. Like Hayley Jane. Yeah, yeah. Shia, thank you so much for going through the punishment and pain of that. And sharing that with us. Again, and sharing that with us.

That's incredible. Thanks, you call. Some messages in. Shall we cut the Shire music? I think keep it going. It's a lovely tune. He did a fantastic job of scoring these movies, Howard Shaw. Yeah.

Okay, great. I'm in the middle of a rewatch. Okay. And I'll tell you what, I'm really appreciating the music second time around. Savannah, The Prince of Tides. This is a movie and a book. But the character that I'm named after gets institutionalized and goes crazy.

Okay. My mum was never intending for me to be crazy, and I'm not. Don't worry. That's what a crazy person would say. That's what crazy people say. They're not crazy. My son is Bodhi from Point Break with Patrick Swayze. Was Patrick Swayze...

He was Bodhi, eh? I don't know. I can't remember. What was his character from Point Break called? Can't remember. Was Patrick Swayze... He was Bodie, eh? I don't know. I can't remember. What was Keanu Reeves' character from Point Break called? Can't remember. Someone's going to message in. My son's name is MacGyver. What?

You are kidding me. That's not true. That's not true. He also got to meet MacGyver. Yeah, we got to meet MacGyver, and it was really disappointing. Well, he wasn't doing a jump roll through a shutter gate, was he? Or making a bomb out of some chewing gum. And then he hand sanitized in front of us.

And it was like, I felt like we should be the ones hand sanitizing. Yeah. See, it was quite sweaty. It was just the whole thing was childhood disappointment. Yeah. I went to a school holiday camp with my daughter a couple of years ago. We've moved on to the next song. Yeah, I'm just going to cut the shine.

That's in you. Yeah, no. I going to cut the shine. That's Enya. No, I'm cutting Enya. Turn down here. It's wild from you. I went to a school holiday with my daughter a couple of years ago and helped with a group of kids. There was a 10-year-old girl called Yoda.

No, there wasn't. Were you mishearing it? Or was Yoda like a nickname? Maybe Yoda was the nickname. Maybe it was a nickname. Surely the government, the births, deaths and marriages aren't going to let you call your kid Yoda. I feel, I've said this a lot.

There should be a naming panel that says yes or no. What a fun job. It would be a great job. No, no. Try again. Don't be silly. Name Jax after the Sons of Anarchy character. Jax.

Oh yeah. You're rolling the dice on that one. You might have a real naughty boy on your hands. Yeah. My middle name is Morgana after Morgana Le Fay from the King Arthur stories. Oh, okay. Very classic there. Yeah.

My son's name is Hudson. He is named after the Hudson Hornet, which was a car in the movie Cars. That's pretty good. Wow. That's pretty good. They're named was a car in the movie Cars. That's pretty good. Wow. That's pretty good. They're named after the car from the movie Cars. Hudson. Yeah.

A girl I go to the gym with named her daughter Cruella because they love the movie so much. No. Lucky for the girl, she gets called Ella or Crew. Oh, yeah, yeah. Those are cool nicknames. Yeah. Cruella, though.

Because that's an evil character, right? Yeah, yeah. She's a... Well, I never watched the Emma Stone movie. The origin story is a Cruella. No, yeah. Those are cool nicknames. Yeah. But Cruella, though. Because that's an evil character, right? Yeah, yeah. Well, I never watched the Emma Stone movie. The origin stories of Cruella. But, I mean, she did plan to murder 101 Dalmatians. So she might not have started out bad. She sure ended there. Is she just a cat person?

Is that the thing? Didn't she have a cat? Didn't she have a bad cat? I don't know. I don't really know the story. Yeah. All you need to know is there's 101 Dalmatians. Yeah, that's all I literally know of the story.

I was always led to believe that one dog had given birth to 101 Dalmatians. But it was just her puppies were part of the larger pool of Dalmatians. It certainly sounds like some people should be taking responsibility and getting their animals neutered. I couldn't agree more. But then at the end, I don't think there's enough effort put into finding the owners of the other Dalmatians. They just take the Dalmatians.

See, again, I don't know the story, so I just know that there's 101 of them. Keanu Reeves' character from Point Break was Johnny Utah. How could I forget? Great name. One of the greatest names of all time. Play ZM's Flesh, Vaughn and Hayley. Here he is. he's in. Bad news, Brad.

One day we're going to get... When's your birthday, Brad? January. January. Why do you want to know? Are you going to steal my financial details and scam me? No, no, no, no, no. I just thought...

I've never known. Does that make you an Aquarius or a Capricorn? Ah, Capricorn. Capricorn, front half of the month. Okay, right. Again, are you trying to scam him? Capricorn? Ah, Capricorn. Capricorn, front half of the month. Okay, right. Again, are you trying to scam him? No, no. It sounds like a scam.

What was the street you grew up on? And what was your mother's maiden name? First pet, favourite colour. Now, Bad News Brad, it's our affectionate nickname for you. We'd love to one day call you Good News Brad. Yeah, if you're new to the show, Brad's the chief economist and big dog who drives a Ford Ranger when he's in the regions. It was one time.

He just told me sometimes he gets a Ford Ranger as a hire. As a hire car. Wow, that's a big move. Big energy. I'm not going to lie, as someone who quite likes my small cars and manoeuvrability, big old Ford Ranger, very difficult to park. Struggle street.

And you're not a prick. Well, I mean, other people would probably beg to differ, but I like that you've got that view. He changes when he is in a Ford Ranger, though. Everybody does. Everybody does. It just comes with the territory. The man becomes the car.

People love our chats with you, Brad. We obviously don't have a lot of time now to get into big in-depth discussions, but over the weekend we're going to do a podcast with you. So if you have a question, a financial question that you'd love Brad to answer, if you go to our Instagram, FVHZM, there's a question box, and we'll do our best to answer those on the podcast record over the weekend. But right now, we thought we'd chat, I guess, the state of the economy. A lot of people fixing mortgages. I heard a stat the other day, is it billions of dollars that need fixing in the next wee while?

Well, I think it's something like 30, 40% of people have refixed in the last couple of months for just six months. So a lot of people going short, you know, because interest rates are coming down for the first time. And that is sort of the good news. If you look at one year special mortgage rates, sort of what you can get if you've got over 20% equity when you're going for a home loan. Go back about a year or so and they were at 7.3%. You can get stuff today for below 6%. So a whole percentage point lower that people can start to get a mortgage on.

That's encouraging news. It's a much better start and it means that people do have a little bit more free cash in their pockets. When's the next OCR review? Because aren't they talking about doing a mega cut? Oh, they have been talking about it. It's next week, next Wednesday. No, is it next Wednesday or the two weeks time? I'm trying to think now.

Sort of your Thanksgiving, isn't it? It sort of is. And it's one of those things where, like, because we live and breathe it so much, you actually lose track of the dates. I almost feel like we're into summer. It's the 27th. 27th, yeah.

Yeah, it must be two weeks away then. But, yeah, there was talk of maybe a 75 basis point big cut just because they're coming in. In November, it's the last time they review interest rates for three months. Normally, it's every six weeks. This time, it'll be 12 because they take a big long summer break. Lazy. It's the thing.

I'm always like, come on, guys. Everyone else has got to work. Surely they can cut the rates from a batch in the Coromandel. Oh, I was going to say, just whip around on a team's chat, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like thumbs up react for 50, you know, heart react for 75. Yeah. Or I can just say to Adrian, hey, mate, on the 15th of December,

up to you. Yeah, yeah, so that's fine. Do whatever you feel is right. See what's up. But they do, so there was talk of 75 because they might need a bit of insurance over that longer summer period, you know, then come back next year, assess how things are going. Some of the data since then hasn't been sort of enough

to convince us that we really do need the big one, but pretty much expectations are settled on 50 basis points. So another fairly big cut coming through. How has the US election changed that? Because big DT, always been a huge fan, by the way. Donald Trump, yeah, or you just don't want to go to prison, eh? Yeah, always big fans, big fans. Are you planning to travel to the US

and you're just trying to make sure that you're a shortage? Huge fan. He's putting tariffs on imported goods and we do export quite a bit to the United States. We do, and look, the tariffs are a big sort of question mark. Because let's be real, he gets in on the 20th of January next year, so it's still a little while away. And will he do it day one? Probably

not. Like, he's got other things to do. So I think there's a question of, one, if he does those tariffs at all, but two, if they come through as immediately. Long story short, I think the risk at the moment that we've been seeing, and economists are never happy, right? When we looked at Harris's policies, we were like, oh, well, you know, it wouldn't have enough growth.

And then for Trump, it was like, oh, there's too much growth coming through. This time around, what we think might happen is that all of that could lead to higher interest rates if the US economy actually goes too hot. That would generate a bit more inflation there locally, and that means that their central bank doesn't need to cut interest rates quite as much. That would have indirect but flow-on implications for ours. Long story short, interest rates still coming down. Question

next year is if they come down quite as much. So, the greatest question of all time. How long do you lock it in for if you're Vaughan Smith and you've... So, on mine actually, I need to, would be, refixing before the 27th. But you know what I'm going to do?

I'm going to roll the dice on a float for a little while because I think the floating rate now is still less than what I'd locked in it previously. So I'm going to float. I think you got a bad deal that last time, potentially. No, I locked in at the peak. Oh, that real top. Yeah, and that hurts Daddy's wallet big time.

No, well, look, not specific advice. I'm sort of surprised that no one's ever pinged me as well, you know, for this. Because I always worry. But you do always say, look, this is... Well, you've got to. Yeah. Okay, some things, one sort of thing to consider, because a lot of people, like I say,

there's this great chart that people, that I'm showing around to our clients and people at the moment, showing just how massive a proportion of new mortgage lending is going on just six-month terms, like the very, very shortest. And what gets me is when you actually look at some of those numbers, you go, is six months the best? I get how people are going, six months means I get to refix lower sooner, but the gap between your six months and sometimes your one year, that's sometimes worth having a little bit of either a shop around or talking to a mortgage advisor or someone and going,

what actually is my best bet here? Because like I say, there's some questions at the moment that we're asking ourselves as economists, how much lower do interest rates go? They do go a bit lower, but we wonder where that bottom starts to come out because you look at some of the banks a couple of weeks ago, they've continued to cut their short-term rates, but they actually lifted their four and five years just a smidge. But

it sort of said, oh, we may be close to the bottom. So questions to be asked. Don't necessarily think that just because it's the shortest, it's the bestest, and maybe not, if you're Trump, the bigly option. Just have a little bit of a think about those other options. Have a little bit of a cast around. What are those different rates? What can you get? Because it might be worth shopping around. So does that mean with Trump next year, is travel to the US a bad idea?

Is the dollar going to be really crap for us next year, travelling? I mean, quite possibly. The dollar has already sort of come into a worse position. I mean, it's only down about one cent, but that's still not good, and it's sort of direction of travel-wise not awesome. But, I mean, all of this is sort of a little bit of hindsight, right? If you were that smart and you were putting all your money in the betting markets,

you'd be laughing all the way to the bank at the moment. And if you're going travelling, like, there's never a great time as there to lock in your money. You know, everyone's always, oh, I'll wait another week or I should have done it back then. Like, if you're travelling, you probably don't care that much about how politics are going.

You're going to go and have a look, smash your face into some big American food. I mean, that's how it works. Yeah. And worry about it later. That's the best financial advice. Tick it up, worry about it later. You sound so much like Hayley.

The one good thing about Trump, though, the Trump one, the KiwiSaver balances are insane at the moment. Oh, yeah. And managed funds have just gone nuts in the last week. Yeah. And all it cost us was women's reproductive rights. You know what?

Are they onto something? No, I joke. I joke. We jest. I don't know if that's all we lost there. Sometimes people don't pick up the sarcasm and tones in our voices, Brad. Have you been hashtag cancelled? Not yet.

No. Not yet. Someone just thought we were Trump fans the other day. We were like, no, that was sarcasm. Yeah, that was sarcasm. Yeah. I don't know if it was from over in the corner there, from one Vaughan Smith who's trying to make sure he doesn't get cancelled

over in the US. Oh, yeah, well, yeah. I've always been a huge fan. Depends on who you're talking to. I think it would lock up Jimmy Kimmel the US? Oh, yeah, well, yeah. I've always been a huge fan. Depends on who you're talking to. I think you'll lock up Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert and other comedians with free starts on New Zealand radio hosts. Okay, good. Brad, thank you for coming in.

If you've got a question for Brad, finance your question. Go to our Instagram, FVHZM, and we'll record that over the weekend in a podcast special. It'll be good fun. Brad Olsen, thank you so much for coming in. Thank you. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley. Play ZM's

Fletchborn and Hayley. Producer Shannon joins us, who is famous for giving us Shannon's hacks. Best hacks in the world. Well, not yet. You're yet to receive a five-star review. I did get four, though, when we take pads to Hayley's foot. I don't remember just getting a four for that.

She gave it a four, you gave it a three, and Vaughan gave it a two. Yeah, but on average, that's about a two. That's about a three at the most, yeah. Well, I've got one today. Christmas is upon us, which I'm very excited about. And, you know, every year people get real trendy and want to do themed trees. That's kind of the go-to at the moment. Do you know we're 40 days away from Christmas?

I've got my Christmas clock. Wow. Countdown on my laptop. 40 days. Perfect timing for this. Okay. So if you're getting ready to set up your tree and you're like, I want to do a new aesthetic this year, you know,

people go for the teal or they'll do a pink Christmas or, you know. Yeah. But it's expensive. I used to have a pink Christmas tree in my flat. Do you remember that? Yeah, big gay Christmas. What do we call it? Big gay Christmas tree.

Yeah. That's beautiful. It was beautiful. It was, yeah. And silver. Really popped. Love it. Yeah.

And a gay man owned it and he called it the big gay Christmas tree. That's why it's called the big gay Christmas tree. So we were just calling it what he called it. Yeah. We weren't saying pink's gay. No, absolutely not. No. Just protecting ourselves there after the Trump thing before. I really feel just calling it what he called it. Yeah. We weren't saying pink's gay. No, absolutely not. No. Just protecting ourselves there

after the Trump thing before. I really feel like we're going to put up some safeguards. Don't want to get, really don't want to get cancelled. With all this talk about mortgagery payments and reficts, I'm having a panic attack. Well, yeah.

So everyone does theme trees, which can be really wasteful and really expensive. If you go all out one year and buy a bunch of silver baubles, then next year you're like, I want gold. What a waste. Not if you put them in the garage and recycle and go on off every few years. Yeah, but, you know, people are going trendy and they're buying new themes. So I've got a hack to save money and save the environment.

All you need to do is buy a packet of balloons, the colour that you want, chop off the little neck, zhomp. I'm going to use the term condom it around a bauble. Okay. And then you have now a themed Christmas tree, no waste, and every year you can swap it out. What do you think balloons are made of?

Just a quick question there. Latex. Yeah, wasteful material. And that's biodegradable in your opinion? Well, you're only buying maybe 12 latex balloons versus a whole pack of baubles, which comes in packaging. Yeah, but the baubles will last forever. But.

Do you, when you do it next year, do you just get different colour balloons and put them over top of the existing balloons or do you peel the balloons off and discard them? Whichever gets me a higher hack, Star. No, it's not for Star. It's not going well

because everyone's going to be like, do you have balloons on your Christmas tree? Because it's just not where you half inflated them. No, they don't look like balloons. It'll texture around them. No, but baubles are shiny

and have a shiny finish. You could put some Vaseline on if you want. Oh my God. Maybe some lube. Shannon, no. Some lube. Shannon, no. Some lube.

Yeah, it'll make it shiny. So now you're putting lube on it. Yeah, it'll make it shiny. Okay, just picture that for a second on your Christmas tree. Merry Christmas, Mum. Merry Christmas, Dad. Why is that balloon on the tree shining so much? We covered it in KY jelly. Yeah.

But you saved the planet and you saved money. I don't know if you have saved the planet. Is anybody still using K-Y jelly as lube? Silly little poll Silly little poll Do you mean as their Preferred brand?

As their bauble cover Of choice I think Oh yeah I don't think anyone's Using it to put on Their Christmas decorations Shannon Not at all

Okay I'm going to give you A point five Wait Oh you're going Point five Are you understanding What I'm saying? Yeah Oh definitely I'm going to give you a.5. Wait. Oh, you're going.5. Are you understanding what I'm saying? Yeah, definitely.

I'm picturing it perfectly. I absolutely am. Man, KYJ is expensive. $22 for a 100-gram tube. Yeah. And that's at the chemist's warehouse where they don't, you know, they don't mess around. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's a good price. You need to get, if you want to bulk buy, you need to find out where the doctors get their big. Yeah, nothing's as sexy as getting down to it and being like, hold on, love. I'll pull the bucket lid off K.Y. Jallioff and just get a whole hand in. Well, he probably became known to everybody

in the American version of The Office as like the goofy Jim. Well, now he's the world's sexiest man, according to People magazine, John Krasinski, who did have a big glow up. He did. Especially because he played- Chris Pratt type glow up.

Yeah, he played Jack Ryan. Yes, he did. In the Prime series. Not good for that. Yeah, and he was a bit of a shit kicker in that. Yeah, he's married to Emily Blunt. They've got children together. Yeah. She's married to Emily Blunt. They've got children together.

Yeah. She's a very good, they keep their kids pretty private. Right. But those kids are going to be good looking kids when they grow up, I reckon, with parents like that. Nah, but sometimes it goes the other way. Yeah, sometimes. And sometimes you're like, huh. I mean, you're not, but you think it.

What? You just don't say it out loud. But you think it. Yeah, you're like, but you think it. What? You just don't say it out loud. But you think it. Yeah, you're like, what happened there? Yeah. But also when you see someone, they're really hot, then you see their parents and you're like. I know.

And you're like, how did that happen? Or someone that's really tall and you see their parents. And they're not. Yeah, you're like. And they don't look anything like their dad. Yeah. Ancestry.com. And you're like, oh. Well, it has kind of divided people because, you know,

the man of the moment, Glenn Powell, that everybody thought. Glenn Powell's got so much time to be people's sexiest man. Yeah, but everyone thought it's his time. Surely he's a shoo-in this year. Nah, he's got time. They're always a little bit older. It's always like Brad Pitt got it when he was a little bit older. Richard Gere has won it twice.

Yeah. You know, George Clooney's been it. It's always the older gentleman with people's sexiest man. Producer Girlies, how do we feel about this choice this year? Look, I think that he's an attractive man 100%. He's not who I would have picked this year.

Who would have been your number one? Glenn Powell. Okay, yeah. 100%. Right. Did you say that Twister's movie? I didn't. No, I didn't. But you know But you know I find tornadoes very sexy

So it puts him at an unfair advantage Because he's surrounded by them Do you think it is the weather though That makes him hotter Like the weather, the Twisters I think it's like him, he's like chasing after them And like saving people and stuff And did you see him in Top Gun Maverick?

I mean hello Again that's unfair though Because I get quite horny like saving people and stuff. Hot. And did you see him in Top Gun Maverick? I mean, hello. Yeah, that was pretty cool. Again, that's unfair though because I get quite horny when it comes to fighter jets. Yes. Any war planes, basically. Let's just see him in a normal, because he was in that Netflix hit man.

He was great in that. Yeah. And anything but you. Hot. Yeah. Okay. But what has John done this year for us to know if he's hot or not, you know?

Well, he's just been around. He's directed. He's moved a lot into, like, directing. Okay. I don't think. Okay. She's met with a very sexy response. But, no, no, he did that Imaginary Friends movie with Ryan Reynolds

that everyone was like, ooh. And then Ryan Reynolds was like, guys, Deadpool's coming out soon. And everyone got excited about that. Everyone forgot. Everyone forgot about the if. Right. Shannon, not your pick? No. You know, I think, you know,

Glenn Powell seems like the right choice. He's been in a lot. For me, Top Gun Maverick, I've seen it like six times. Him and Miles Teller, I mean, I could give them the award together, you know? Miles Teller's a good looking dude. I think you're going to say you'd like to see a magician up there. Oh, well, of course.

My type. I only date magicians. Criss Angel. Criss Angel number one. David Copperfield. A classic number two. Ken and Teller at three and four. It's good stuff.

Paul Daniels. I did Paul Daniels magic set. Honky Tonk magic set or whatever it's called. I had that one too. I could never do any of those trips. BJ the Clown. Have you heard of him?

He lives up north. Okay, you know far too tricks. BJ the Clown, have you heard of him? He lives up north. You know far too many people. BJ the Clown. Wow, okay. Great. People's sexiest man alive. Surprisingly, it's not BJ the Clown. It's not a magician. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley.

I want to talk now about the loyalty programs or the points rewards systems that you're addicted to. Yeah. Because news that Woolworths or Countdown that's now slowly turning into Woolworths are going to let you use your everyday rewards points for air points in New Zealand air points. Okay. Or Qantas points.

So they've added a couple of airlines. points for air points in New Zealand air points or Qantas points. So they've added a couple of airlines. They can't do both. Neither can do. Those are competing airlines. Pick an airline. So when you get to 2,000 rewards points, you can choose. Or I don't know, maybe you can log on and select air points. Because what was the old?

Because New World you can select either to get the points or air points. I got air points. So I just have air points, yeah. I select air points. Because what was the old? Because New World you can select either to get the points or air points. So I just have air points. Yeah. I got air points. And then you do a supermarket shop. But then what happens

with New World's also got club card. Because sometimes I'll see something on special and I'll be like, oh, that's a good price and I'll get it and then I'll get up

to the thing and it'll be like, oh, it doesn't work and I'll say, excuse me, this is priced wrong and they said, do you have a club card?

And I said, no. And they said, you need a club card. I know because they don't just give you one anymore. You've got to have one, yeah. Yeah. So just get one.

I don't know, it's easy, isn't it? Yeah, but then do I not get to get air points? Or do I turn my club card points into air points? You can select either. It's not, it's literally so easy. You can choose any. I just always just go air points. Yeah, same.

But do I, if I use my club card, can I still use air points? Yes. Okay. Yeah. So I get the discount, but I don't have to put the points on there. God, I feel like I'm working at a customer service desk and I'm dealing with morons all day. Yeah.

And I've only dealt with your questions. Morons are a very hard word. But this is what I wanted to know, because so many people are like into points. My mum was the coupon queen growing up. She'd go to town and go to the two different supermarkets. Really? Because she had different specials and different coupons.

But this is the thing now with these loyalty, they're trying to like, well, that's the whole reason they're called loyalty programs. They're trying to make you loyal to just their brand. To spending money there. And some people like won't fly a different airline because they want the air points and the status or they will only go to the supermarket because they want the points.

Yes. And they'd never go anywhere else. Yeah. And that's what I wanted to ask this morning. I reckon the biggest sway away from that loyalty is when they do the things like the plates and the knives and you collect the stamps and you can get the box. Yeah, and then you're just like, I need them. I reckon that sways people across.

But if you did the maths on it, it wouldn't stack up. No. Or no, you see your statement and you've gone to do your supermarket shopping and you get, like, 0.87 air points. You're just like, well, was that worth it? Because, I don't know, I've got that app, that Stocard app on my phone. Yes. I've got Flybuys, RIP.

RIP. That's gone now. But people were into that, weren't they? But everything else isn't like a loyalty program so much as it is, you need the card to get the discount. Like I got my Gilmore's card and my Costco card, but those are both things you've got to have to get in there.

But I don't think anything else is like a loyalty program. Producer Girlies, are you hooked on any loyalty programs? I love Farmer's Club card. Oh, I always, whenever I go to Farmer's to buy jocks, I always go and buy my jockeys from Farmer's Club card. Oh, I always, whenever I go to Farmer's to buy jocks, I always go and buy my jockeys from Farmer's when they're

on special. My yandis. They are actually jockeys. Yeah. They're the jockey brand. Okay. But I don't want people thinking I'm wearing dad jocks. No, you're wearing like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm wearing a boxer brief. Is that what these are called? Yeah, boxer briefs. A boxer brief. And they changed the recipe of my boxer brief recently.

I wasn't so happy on it, but I am. What did they change in the recipe? I don't know. Some part of the recipe changed. Oh, I hate that. The waistband was different, but that wasn't my biggest issue. The font they changed, which I did not approve. Did you change?

No. I mean, yes, undoubtedly. I didn't mean it in a white way. I just meant like configuration down there. Wait, my balls go on top now? What do you think? I don't think it in a white way. I just meant like configuration down there. Wait, my balls go on top now? What do you think? I don't think it gets bigger in your 40s. There's definitely a recipe change of the grunt.

But anyway, whenever I go to farmers, they're always like, do you have a farmer's card? I say, no. My wife does, though. I give them her phone. I'm not collecting points for you. I give them her phone number. Right, well, she's collecting the points.

And then she gets points. But what do you do with those points? You get a voucher, a $20 voucher. Oh, okay. I can't remember how many points it is, but it's not much. Like, I get it pretty quickly. And for ages, I was doing the same thing as you and just using my mum's number until one day they were like,

oh, you've got a voucher. And I was like, oh, cool. And they're like, you need to have your card to use the voucher. And I was like, my mum has been using it the to have your card to use the voucher and I was like my mum has been using it the whole time so you were going to steal off your mum

your own mum that birthed you I was the one that had just spent a bunch of money and got her that voucher so you're fair point

your turn for the voucher so now I've got my own card sorry and now I give Carwin all my points but why don't you just have your own I don't believe in wallets

I don't want to carry anything. I just give them to Carlin. I want to know what the loyalty programs that people are addicted to. You can text 9696 0800 dials at M. The loyalty programs.

Some people don't care but some people are just absolutely nuts about every purchase they make. I remember, was it Razine that said, do you want to sign up to our loyalty program? I was like, I just don't paint that much. If I was a tradie, absolutely. I'd pick my brand and I'd stick to it. But I don't paint that much, my dear.

What are you, painting a fence like every 10 years? Yeah. Hopefully not more often because painting, it's not my thing. It's expensive. 0800-DARLS-IT-M-9696. What loyalty program are you kind of addicted to? The more obscure,

the better too. Yes. Ah! EB Games. Really? I know EB Games. I've got an EB Games loyalty. I completely forgot about it.

What are you special? Yeah. What about people that might see their balance and they're like, oh, three more points to something. So they go and specifically spend money. Well, that's how the New World knives or the stickers, that's how they get you.

You do extra shopping because you're like, I've got to collect them all. Jessica, what loyalty program are you addicted to? When McDonald's do the Monopoly, I find myself always at McDonald's or configuring my combos to make sure that I get the most amount of food possible. I'd love to see the stats behind when they do do Monopoly.

Yes, yes. Because that's the thing, you get addicted, you've got to collect all the pieces. Yeah. Jessica? We've lost Jessica. She's got no more to add. That's correct. Yeah, just correct lost Jessica. Oh, yeah. She's got a little more to add.

That's correct. Yeah, just correct. Yeah, right. Okay. So global sales of McDonald's, because I remember reading something when they said they were doing it again. Global sales of McDonald's rise 8.2%

when they do Monopoly. Wow. Yeah. 8%. And already, you know, very busy fast food. I love that. Because now it's all digital with the app, isn't it?

That documentary about in America, the person that stole the winning. Is that what it's called? Yeah, that was an incredible documentary. Oh, yeah. No spoilers, but you're like, he did it how? Yeah, it's an insane documentary.

Thanks, Jessica. Angela, what points or loyalty program are you addicted to? First of all, I'm a long-time listener, first-time caller. Grab the bell, grab the bell. I will say, I found another bell. No, don't come in here with a new bell. No, no, no, that's what I'm going to say.

Never clean this bell. Okay, because that's... Because the dirty bell is the new bell, whereas the long-time listener bell... Beautiful bell. The dirty bell... Oh, no, different tone. That might be the KPI bell. Oh, no, different tone. That might be the KPI bell. Okay.

Yeah, fantastic. Angela, go ahead. So I am addicted to the Caltex Petrol app. Oh, okay. So I just get $40 petrol at a time and stack my points every time. Yes. And then you can use it at the end of every second month. Right.

And they do like promo days. So I can say you get 12 cents off and on some weekends. So you plan your fuel consumption around accruing points. And you used to be able to go to Shell too, but now it's only Caltex. Right. But I normally save like 220 odd cents plus off a full tank, so you pay like

$56 for a full tank. Wow. How much would that fuel tank cost to fill without any discounts? You normally save about $160, $70, $80. Jeez, so you're like really working the points there. But is it annoying? It sounds like you're going to the servo like every two days.

That's annoying. Yeah, it is. It's worth it. I'd rather pay next year $150 just to go once a month. I think like seeing the savings at the end when you can look on the app and say like, oh, I saved this much. You're like, yes, I won. They've got you, Angela.

It's just such an inconvenient use of time. I live in like a little city, so I go past the petrol station. Oh, okay. I think they call them towns. Yeah, it's actually a town there, Angela, if we can pull you up there. I do like little city as a term now. Well, I don't know that it's cool enough to be called a town.

Okay. Where is it? No, you've picked it. Upper Hutt. Upper Hutt. Upper Hutt. See, that's just a super city, though. To me, that's a super it's just all one super city. It's not. It's not, though, is it?

It's not. It's not super. Angela, thank you. Great tip there as well. Lisette, what loyalty program are you addicted to? Yeah. Well, first of all, also a long-time listener. Grab the bell.

Welcome, welcome. And I'm going to preface this with the fact that I have ADHD and compulsive spending is my jam. Okay. Okay, any excuse? I have the Linen Lovers card from Adias and I've got to say.

How much linen could one possibly require that there's a loyalty program for it? You have no idea, Vaughan. No idea what my linen cupboard looks like. How often are you buying towels? No, no, no. Like duvets and sheets and, you know.

I will buy a duvet and use it until it's like, I don't know, faded and worn through. No, no, no, no. No. Okay. One, linen, like genuine linen. Super expensive, but oh my God, amazing. Okay.

And I like them to be pretty. Okay. Right. So you spend a lot. I'm looking at Adair's Linen Lovers. Linen Lovers. $20 for two years. Okay.

Or $20 to join. Save up to 10% always. A $20 welcome reward. So there you go. You've already got your money back. A birthday reward. Free and extended returns. Now, if one was to soil their linens, could they take them back to a dance?

Or is that outside of the returns policy? Well, I mean, I don't know. I've never really returned anything. It's just so amazing. Well, they'd have to first look at your soiled linen and ask for your linen lover's card. Well. To check that you're a member. I mean, yeah.

What do you get on your birthday, though? I actually have no idea. How many is that? Because I don't remember. How many beds does your house have? Oh, five. Five beds. Okay, so you're buying a lot of linen.

You're a linen lover. How often are you refreshing the lids? I love all the linen. What's your linen cupboard look like? Well, I mean, new sheets every year, kind of. New sheets every year? Every year! God, the queen. Are you the queen? That's insane.

She loves linen. Thank you for your call. Some messages in. The loyalty programs that you're addicted to? Um... I... I'm driving home from work. I wanted to message you guys earlier, but I couldn't because I was driving and the lights kept going green every time I stopped at a red light.

Thank you for that explanation. That's why your text didn't come in. Somebody said, the same person said, I joined loyalty programs because they're a proof of purchase. Oh, yeah. Especially at clothing stores, it'll be in your loyalty program what you purchase. So if you bring something back in, you don't always have to keep the receipts.

And then also they can email your receipt instead of printing out four meters of that receipt paper. Yeah. The Mercury Power app. You get points for walking and answering quiz questions, and then you get free power day or money off your bill. What? I'm with Mercury, and I walk to work. You walk to work and home? I should at least get a free power day or money off your bill? What? I'm with Mercury and I walk to work. You walk to work and home? I should at least get a free power day.

Are you allowed to give your app to a runner? Like a Commonwealth Games, someone training for the Commonwealth Games. Yeah, perfect. Or just sell it. I could sellotape it to your car. Yeah. My phone. The app.

No, they won't believe you're walking. I'm a fast walker. The gym is slow and you are fast, but there's still a difference between your speeds. I used to work in finance for airpoints. You want a fun airpoints hack? Okay. You probably already know this because this is the sort of thing you know. The best combo,

the best credit card combo for accruing airpoints is an American Express Platinum when you're with ANZ. Right. American Express gets you the best air points rate. For places that don't accept this, use your ANZ card to collect status points. That's the best combo.

Oh, so these are two different cards. An American Express and an ANZ. But a lot of the banks, yeah, brought down their earning rates for air points. I forgot about Mecca. Oh, yeah. Mecca's massive. Why didn't you guys mention Mecca? Yeah, why didn Mecca's massive. Why didn't you guys mention Mecca?

Yeah, why didn't you mention Mecca? Why didn't you mention Mecca? What do they call them? The rings of power. Beauty loop. Beauty loop. Yeah, close. Rings of power.

I think rings of power was taken. What is a loop if not a ring? And beauty is power. Mecca's good, but you have to spend a lot of money to get the really good bonuses. You like the ring of power. I get sachet samples power samples you know i don't want to sashay yeah and i just give all my points to carl and again again why are you giving carl and all your points she's my friend i don't have a

wallet but is she giving you but like if there's a cute sample that she wants i'll give it to her yeah right i'm like the please sir may i have have some more? Oliver. Yeah, you're like Oliver. You're like Oliver. Except with Mecca Beauty products. Yeah, with a free facial one. Clean. You're actually a clean Oliver. It would actually change the entire musical.

If Oliver was after the samples of makeup and such. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. It's fizzy drink week at Fact of the Day. And today we are going to learn what country consumes the most fizzy drink The global carbonated beverage market size is estimated at 442 billion US dollars per year That's insane isn't it?

In 2022 and they think in 2032 it'll be $654 billion. Because it's more... But the weird thing is if you go to third world countries, because they're saying the developing world will consume more fizzy. Yeah. There's always fizzy. There's always fizzy, yeah. It's easier to get fizzy than it is to get water.

Yeah, in third world countries. So, okay, give me a clue. It turns out they are also thirsty. Africa or something. Number one, it turns out they're also thirsty. I don't get it. Not just hungry. Ethiopia.

No, hungry. Out of some poor country. No, no, no. They're not just thirsty. No, hungry. Some poor country. No, no, no. They're not just thirsty, they're hungry. Hungry. Hungry. Hungry. Hungry.

Hungary. Hungary. Yeah. Like Budapest. Yeah. 310 litres per person is consumed per year. No. That's insane. Yes,. No. That's insane.

Yes, I know. That's ridiculous, isn't it? 310 litres per capita. And what do you know? We're not in the top 10. Is America in the top 10? It's fourth place, 154 litres per capita of fizzy drink. So it is consumed.

Go through the top 10. Unexpectedly up there, capita of fizzy drink sodas consumed. Go through the top countries. Unexpectedly up there because these guys are usually on the list of countries for happiness. Norway. 98 litres per person per year.

The United Kingdom, 105 litres per capita. So 105 litres per person per year. Eight is Uruguay. Uruguay. 113. Uruguay. Don't tell anybody.

Number seven is Germany, 120 litres. Yeah. Mexico. I thought Mexico would have been up there. Per capita, but I guess it's got a very large population. 137 litres per capita. Chile, 141. The US, 154 litres.

Argentina, who were the champions, by the way. Oh, were they? 155 litres per capita. Belgium, massive leap to 272 litres per capita. And Hungary, 310 litres per capita. So that's like a litre a day, just under a litre a day per person. That's insane. Crazy, right? And this is like official, this is the World Population Review.

Yeah. They've cited their sources. They've cited their sources. One point, some other ones about consumption around the world. 1.7 billion servings of coke are consumed globally every day. Wow. Oh, that's actually a really good, I'm going to save that one. That might be tomorrow's fact.

Read it out now then. Nah, I don't want to. So, in Mexico's mountain town of San Cristobal de las Casas. Si, papi. Which is San Cristobal's castle? Yeah, sure. The locals drink just over two litres of soft drink a day. A day?

It's the highest concentration of one area that's, you know, rather than it being spread. I mean, it's yum in moderation, but every day, two litres. A treat. God. A treat to add the most. Yeah, so. Today's fact of the day is they're not only

hungry. Yeah, they're thirsty. But they're also thirsty as Hungary consumes 310 litres per capita of fizzy drink a year. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. I've fallen to bits. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- In Queenstown, I developed a mild testicular ache. Yup. And then it got worse and it got worse and it got worse.

And I was like, well, I'm dying. That's it. That's it. I'm dying. So I went to the doctor and they were like, wee in here, no infection, da-da-da, go back because the pain hadn't gone away. Next step's an ultrasound. I had a lovely man in his 60s squirt some gel on my balls

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I have since kind of I was like I'm gonna when my lower back which has been sore for what feels like an eternity now because I'm simply an old man. Yeah. And I'm over 40. And the minute you're over 40, some part of you has got to give up.

And for me, that was my back. I think it's like one of those, what do they call those pains that are due to that but somewhere distant? Oh, it's like a nerve pain. Yeah. Like it shoots off somewhere else. Yeah, it goes down somewhere else. Okay. Because I've got into the back stretching and that pain but somewhere distant. Oh, it's like a nerve pain. Yeah. Like it shoots off somewhere else. Yeah, it goes down somewhere else. Okay.

Because I've got into the back stretching, and that pain has alleviated. And then when the back gets tight, the next day that feels tight again. Yeah. So I feel like I've come to the conclusion. Are you working on your core? Have you got a strong core? Dude, you should see me. You should see me on that incline bench.

Oh, you're doing those? I do that incline bench. You're good. I do a hundred of those. Yeah, good. You're a piece of cake. Yeah, right? Yeah.

I watch my show. Are you doing all the ab so? All the ab areas? No. Okay, good. Get a piece of cake. Yeah, right. Yeah. I watch my show. Are you doing all the ab so? All the ab areas? No. Okay, well. Just that one. You can't just do one. Well, that one.

I don't know what else is there. There's like five areas to work. Five areas? Do you know how long one takes? You've got to do your lower back, your sides, your upper, your lower. You tell me how to do more on my lower back, I'll do more on my lower back. Okay, yeah. So, that's one thing.

Then about three days ago, I woke up and I was like, well, that's weird. I must have slept on a clenched fist and my jaw is sore only on one side. Yep. Then yesterday I woke up and it was worse. Yep. And I was like, maybe I've done something to it. But then this morning I woke up, I can hardly even open my mouth. I feel like I'm not enunciating enough. Yeah, and you told us

you don't want to laugh. No, because it makes my mouth go up and down and that hurts. I mean, our job is to laugh out louder. I know. Can you imagine how bad I feel? I know. I'm the vibe hire also. I should be leading the chuckles. I can't because of this one-sided sore jaw situation.

Have you chewed on something a bit? I'm always chewing. I love chewing. Yeah, right. It's one of my favourite things to do. You know, if I haven't had chewing gum for a while

and I'll just do a whole pack, the next day my gums, my jaws are a bit like, oh, ow. It's not that. It's not that? It's not that sort of sore. I've never been

punched in the face and don't take that as an invitation. Anyone. Yeah. You imagine that's what it feels like. But I've been donked

over the back of the head so the whole dome isn't completely, you know, untarnished But this is what I imagine it feels like the day after you've been punched in the face Oh wow So I come into work and I say this jaw And producer Shannon's like this Really? She's like TMJ

She diagnoses you She diagnoses me with TMJ Tight Mouth jaw Tight mouth jaw. Tight mouth jaw. Tender mouth jaw? I don't know. No, it's called temipial jugular joint disorder.

Almost felt racist the way you said that. Yeah, cancelled. Not intentional. She's cancelled. And you know this because you've had this. I've got it. I've got it, baby. Welcome to the club.

Oh, no, got it. That means she hasn't got rid of it. So, it's yours? Yeah. When you said TMJ, I looked and there's acute or there's chronic. Yeah. I'm hoping for acute because I am acute. You are acute.

Yeah, you do deserve the acute one. What is it? So, basically, it's real common for women in their 20s. So, welcome to the club, cutie. Right, okay. But basically, I got it a few years ago when I was quite sick and I was taking a lot of medication. And my jaw, now this is the dramatic way to put it,

and doctors, please don't come for me. My jaw fell off its thing. It's hinged. Yeah, so if I open my mouth too wide, it clicks off. And I won't do it into the mic because that's a lot. Okay. But basically, I had to go to the dentist and I have a splint and it's basically a reverse mouth guard.

So at the top of your teeth, it puts a big spacer and I showed Vaughn a photo and I had to wear it for 18 hours a day for a few weeks. That sounds terrible. Yeah, it got a lot better after that and so now if it's painful,

I put the splint back in but it just clicks off when I open my mouth too wide. So I just can't do that. I've always prided myself on having a big gaping mouth hole. Like, you know, I can, I go up like a snake and just shove a lot in. And food, yeah. Like I can do a whole custard square at once sort of thing. That's my vibe.

Now I can't even go, even go and bite an apple. I had to like I had to eat an apple using my front teeth as a sort of a grating system on my drive to work Maybe you've got to

mush all your food for a little bit. Well I had to drink soup through a straw for those few weeks. I can see if we have the same size teeth if you want to try my splint.

It was molded to my mouth. That doesn't seem like something you would share with someone. Like a moon cup almost. You wouldn't share a moon cup, would you? Not even after a thorough wash.

We've got the same amount of teeth. I've got wisdom teeth. Same. Do you? Yeah. Okay, maybe we do it the same size drawer. Also, why haven't you asked

a friend of the show, Dr. Shawnee? I don't like to bother him. He's got Dr. Shannon. He works... Dr. Shawnee? I don't like to bother him. He's got Dr. Shannon. He works. Dr. Shawnee works three days a week. He's very bad. Peddling snake oil and crystals.

I daren't bother him on one of his very well-deserved day off. Right. I do have a bit of advice, though. My dentist recommended that you massage gun the very top of your spine. Oh, see, that doesn't sound. Yeah. Or you get jaw surgery. Do you go to the dentist

or the doctor for this question? Because I've got a dentist appointment in two weeks, but I don't think I can wait. Bring it forward. My dentist sorted me out because I needed the splint and all that

and maybe jaw surgery. But you can also get Botox in your jaw. In the jaw? In the traps. It's called the traps. Wow. Can they do that a lot?

While you're there, they do that. That's right. I remember a lot of dentists are branching into Botox for this reason because they do the grinding and the jaw clenching, right? And then while you're there, they just chuck a couple of units in your furrowed brow. Okay. Well, good luck on your journey messaging in.

What are they saying? I have TMJ interested to hear about this because no one I've found can help me. Oh. Someone said get a night guard. I can't afford someone to stand guard of me all night. I would feel pretty good going to bed knowing that there was a night guard. Like a red badge? Yeah.

Oh, no. I was thinking sleeve. I was thinking more like red badge. I was thinking ninja. What if we got you like a mouth guard like rugby and then duct taped some cotton balls to it? Shannon, this isn't a hack. This isn't a hack. This feels like a hack.

I don't think you're also not a real doctor. Are people agreeing with the diagnosis though? Yeah. Lots of people had it. Somebody, oh, that's so sad. I was dating a girl for ages and one day- I know where this is going. Yeah, and she said, I can't do that because I've got TMJ.

And it turns out she didn't have TMJ. She just Googled excuses to get out of doing what I was quite keen for her to do. Maybe that's why so many women in their 20s get TMJ. ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. This was a post on Reddit yesterday with the headline, Kiwis aren't inviting. Now, I've heard this said by a lot of people that move or immigrate to Australia and New Zealand. Why don't you shut up? Why don't you shut up?

Stop talking to me. This is what it says. I've found New Zealanders to be clicky and uninviting. To meet new people, I tried out court sports last week that had mixed sexes and ages. The only person that talked to me was the person that gave me the club's spare racket. I had to initiate conversations. No one asked if I'd played before. We're there to smash you at squash.

We're not there to talk to you about your feelings. Do you want a chat club if you want to chit chat? And so it just goes on. It says, I'm a New Zealander and I dislike the side of our culture where we're not actually friendly or inviting. I don't know why I'm so offended. Because I don't talk. I don't go out of my way to talk to people.

Yeah, but this is their whole point. I don't want to talk to people. I don't even want to talk to New Zealanders. Well, this is the thing, is that this is what people are finding. They say, they post continues, I work for a company that employs hundreds of people, many of whom are immigrants, and they say the same thing. Seriously, Kiwis, how hard is it to say hello to someone new

or invite a new employee to enjoy, to, you know, join going out for lunch or something? So what they're saying is when you move to New Zealand and you're an immigrant, you should have to wear a t-shirt that says, I'm an immigrant. No, they're not saying that. They're not saying that.

I don't know who's an immigrant or not. We put up a question box and it was insane how many Kiwis, you know, people that were born here and grew up here, replied to this saying the same thing. It is clicky. It is hard to make new friends. Oh, if you move from one region of New Zealand to another,

it's 100% like moving to different countries. Oh, 100%. It's as hard. It can be hard, yeah. Wow, totally. But then I feel sometimes like now, I don't know, it's just if you start talking to strangers, people just kind of look at you like, what are you doing?

Like there's a bit of an ick there. They're just like, well, they might think you're creepy or something. Yeah, yeah. You know, like there's that kind of culture ick there. They're just like, or they might think you're creepy or something. Yeah. You know, like there's that kind of culture where if you start initiating it, you must be, maybe you're a creep. I don't know. It's just easy to just keep to yourself, isn't it?

It doesn't help that when you do it, your hands are down your pants. That's all I'm saying. I'd put them where they can see them. In my trench coat. In my trench coat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. New to the country, are you?

100%. Kiwis are so clicky. Went to the country, are you? 100%. Kiwis are so clicky. Went to LA for the first time this year and made so many friends because people just start talking to you and you're like, okay, and then you just start talking back. I've been here for 12 years and my only friends are people of where I came from. Kiwis are really friendly but really hard to take to the next level of being friends with. Yeah, like people say there's a superstitious, not superstitious, a superficial level of friendship.

Right. You know, like just enough, like pleasantries and nice, but you know, they're not going to invite you around. Horrendously clicky. Moved here 20 years ago. School mums are the worst. Oh, really? Most of my friends are from overseas. I don't have a problem with the school mums.

They always want to talk to me. Yeah, but you're the hot dad. I'm the hot dad. You're the hot dad, yeah. Hey, it's my cross to bear. Did that make you feel better? Yeah, it did. While you're falling to bits physically?

While I'm falling to bits, it's in my testicles and my jaw are sore. Yeah. Both ends of the hot dad are falling apart, ladies. Yeah. Get in before there's nothing left. We asked on Instagram, we had some responses as well.

You can still keep texting 9696 I might dip back in there Yeah, sure Debbie said, when immigrating here and still 20 years later I find it hard to relate to New Zealanders Wow They start talking to them and they just answer really shortly Yeah, and don't keep the conversation going

Adam, this is 100% correct When I moved from England I was shocked at how nobody talked to you. Natalie said, I agree with this. I moved back to New Zealand 13 years ago and after being overseas for so long, it was really hard to make friends. Not all, but lots of Kiwis don't seem to be

able to go beyond a superficial friendship. What do you want from me? They want you to ask them how their day is going, Gordon. I have enough friends. I'm not auditioning for more friends. You've come to the wrong guy. Yeah. I think it's because Kiwis are just lazy friends.

It's how we like it. Maybe that's it. We're lazy friends. We're lazy friends. We don't want it to be hard. Yeah. I agree. We don't want high maintenance friendships.

My best friends are lazy friends. Yeah. We're lazy friends. Great friendships through lazy friends. I visited someone yesterday and't want high maintenance friendships. My best friends are lazy friends. Yeah. We're lazy friends. Great friendships. You should be lazy friends. I messaged someone yesterday and I hadn't spoken to them, I would imagine, in five months. Yep.

And I was just like, I want to have a message. Straight back, bat, bat. Three messages each, done. Yeah. I like those friends you catch up with, you haven't seen them maybe for even a year or two sometimes. And it's just like... And I've talked about the fact my favourite friends to hang out with

are the women you can sit there for an hour and no one needs to say anything. Yeah. And you're just like, and I've talked about the fact my favourite friends to hang out with are the women you can sit there for an hour and no one needs to say anything. Yeah. And you just look at it something or think about something

or watching something and you're just like, after a while, you're just like, yeah, this is the good stuff. Yeah. I moved 40 minutes

from my hometown to move in with my partner. I started meeting his friends and their partners and the partners told me they didn't need any more friends

because they had enough friends. Wow. Great first impression. Somebody else said Kiwis are very possessive of friendships and don't want to let anyone into their circle. Oh. Yeah.

Interesting. I moved back after eight years in the UK where I was just making friends all the time 20 years back and I'm still struggling for new friends. Yeah. That's not good, eh? I literally friend every waif and stray. For new friends. Yeah. That's not good, eh? I literally friend every waif and stray. They always say I'm an epic connector.

The more the merrier, I say. Kiwi born and bred. Okay. That sounds like a lot. They're a bit much. I reckon they're a bit much. And you don't want to let them in your existing friend group in case they become better friends. There's no spaces.

Oh, I'm busting for a wheeze after that podcast, I'll tell you. It's a podcast. You are allowed to listen to it while you're wheeze. There's no rules on when and where you're allowed to listen to a podcast. It just says here I'm busting for a wheeze. I read it, okay? I read it. Give us a review.